WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 11 August

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Anika, thank you James. Looking forward to them

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<v Speaker 2>and all the normal roles across the week and get

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<v Speaker 2>ready for a massive week here on the show, because

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<v Speaker 2>Parliament comes back and there's plenty to talk about, latest data,

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<v Speaker 2>latest polls, breaking news that gives us more insight into

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<v Speaker 2>the trouble that Albo is in right now, some bold

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<v Speaker 2>predictions for the week ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the plan for the next hour.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course, how can we not look forward just

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<v Speaker 2>quickly before we look back for a moment here of course,

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<v Speaker 2>on the sensation all past couple of weeks Australia in

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<v Speaker 2>the Olympic Games. Now, as somebody who has been on

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<v Speaker 2>television every night when much of Australia has been watching

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<v Speaker 2>what is on the Olympics, I understand that there may

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<v Speaker 2>be some new viewers back amongst us for the first

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<v Speaker 2>time in two weeks. If so, welcome home, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>We were here all the way, We'll be here all

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<v Speaker 2>the way into the future, between now and the next

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<v Speaker 2>winter and Summer Olympiad and the one after that and

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<v Speaker 2>the one after that and the one after that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Knight did a excellent series of cartoons for mainly

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<v Speaker 2>the Heralds to certain hell. It's on Daily Telegraph, Korea Mail,

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<v Speaker 2>Adelaide Advertiser, the Mercury in Tazzi and he put together

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<v Speaker 2>a poster which is available on all of those websites

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<v Speaker 2>for you to download today and it is all of

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<v Speaker 2>the Australian gold medalists. Now Australia has the best performance

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<v Speaker 2>we've ever had at a Games, as you know thus

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<v Speaker 2>far with Australia finishing third. Now this is incredible. Think

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<v Speaker 2>about the populations, think about the money, think about the training,

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<v Speaker 2>Think about the fact that we're not hosting the Olympic

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<v Speaker 2>Games for another eight years and there's not a huge

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<v Speaker 2>amount of funding that's kicked in. It's not like the

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<v Speaker 2>one just before the Sydney Games or the one just

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<v Speaker 2>after the Sydney Games. But Australia with eighteen gold medals,

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<v Speaker 2>is equal with Japan in terms of goal, but beats

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<v Speaker 2>them in overall because of fifty And I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>say I, well, I'm very proud and excited about all

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<v Speaker 2>of the things with the people who broke their own

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<v Speaker 2>world records or did what was assumed of them at

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<v Speaker 2>these Olympic Games in the sports that we would talk

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<v Speaker 2>about outside of an Olympics. To see Australia winning gold

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<v Speaker 2>medals in a whole variety of different sports like BMX

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<v Speaker 2>or skateboarding of course, how the Fox sisters just own

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<v Speaker 2>canoeing And could you believe Australia won a gold medal

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<v Speaker 2>in pole vaulting?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I didn't think Australia was a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember Tatiana Grigorieva twenty four years ago in Sydney and

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<v Speaker 2>we sort of flummed onto her and the fingers crossed

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<v Speaker 2>fingers cross. Incredible performance from all of these people, and

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<v Speaker 2>they've all got families and friends and big cities and

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<v Speaker 2>little towns they all come from, and all of these

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<v Speaker 2>things become huge buzzes. And I hope all of them

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<v Speaker 2>get statues and murals and wherever in.

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<v Speaker 1>Their home cities. They absolutely deserve it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to say, particularly, I can't wait at some

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<v Speaker 2>point to talk to the BMX gold medalist, the story

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<v Speaker 2>of her injuries that have taken place, her brother's injuries,

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<v Speaker 2>the comebacks, all of that to win to me huge

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<v Speaker 2>Now going into these Games, Australia did something slightly different

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<v Speaker 2>now obviously it kind of worked, which was they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>set any official predictions. They didn't have the number of

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<v Speaker 2>medals that they thought that Australia would end up winning,

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<v Speaker 2>And in part that was because our chef de Michon

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<v Speaker 2>and Emir's said she didn't want the pressure of people perform,

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<v Speaker 2>underperforming or overperforming. Well, very obviously whatever predictions they had

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<v Speaker 2>they have voluatoruily overperformed. The emotion coming very obviously to

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<v Speaker 2>a head with the person who has been night and day,

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<v Speaker 2>year in year out with this Olympic team as it's

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<v Speaker 2>come from all corners of the country and pulled together

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<v Speaker 2>in this phenomenal experience.

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<v Speaker 3>I am so proud, proud for them, proud of them,

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<v Speaker 3>proud to be here with them got so far through.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way.

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<v Speaker 2>I do like the global sponsorship with Coca Cola, which

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<v Speaker 2>of course I'm fine with there's a significant user of.

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<v Speaker 1>The beverage, but I like her.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever they do this, rees conference has got to sit

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<v Speaker 2>there with a bottle of coke or in that case

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<v Speaker 2>the no sugar and slightly turned around version and nan

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<v Speaker 2>They pay for the games apart from television and everyone else,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's a butt and like everyone you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to pile on for the rest of my

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<v Speaker 2>life on who whatever the breakdancing lady?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, but she was really bad? Now was she better

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<v Speaker 1>than you?

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<v Speaker 4>And I?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Did she qualify? Absolutely? Did she have a right

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the Games? Well, yes, she earned her place.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do love some of the nutty stuff that's

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<v Speaker 2>come out in the past couple of days, since all

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<v Speaker 2>of us saw it, all of us thought it, all

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<v Speaker 2>of us saw the same thing and went uh okay. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, the mini a wag on the Internet made

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<v Speaker 2>the connection to the show Summer Heights High and the

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<v Speaker 2>fictitious comedic character of mister G and one of the

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<v Speaker 2>performances that he did in front of the kids, and

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<v Speaker 2>basically imagine the audio from this being matched with the performance.

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<v Speaker 2>But because of the IOC broadcast rules, only show you

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<v Speaker 2>the mister G performance. And that's what was running through

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<v Speaker 2>my head while watching that lady a couple of days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Now now yo yo yo, now, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yill me now yellow noll mew yeww. Now. So I've

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<v Speaker 2>got to say, I thought it's weird, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>good luck to us. She had a great experience, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course, because we cannot possibly just have a

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<v Speaker 2>weird moment where everyone just raises their eyebrows and then

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<v Speaker 2>just memory holes and pretends it never happened. Oh no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we had to have a discussion about from whence this

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<v Speaker 2>person had come. This is after the Internet had already

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<v Speaker 2>made its judgment, which was a giant thumbs down, no score.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to go as far as the Indian Express

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<v Speaker 2>newspaper to get to the stories of exactly who this

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<v Speaker 2>person is, and you start to draw a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a picture about what happened at the Olympics. The person is,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact A P eight has a PhD in cultural studies.

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<v Speaker 1>Fine, good luck to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Her thesis which is titled de Territorializing Gender in Sydney's

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<v Speaker 2>Breakdancing scene, a B Girls experience of B boying focusing

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<v Speaker 2>on the intersection of gender and Sydney's breaking culture. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>one would imagine, not knowing how much money there is

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<v Speaker 2>and the social science is filled in and around breakdancing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know whether this person has already paid back

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<v Speaker 2>their hex debts and they've earned way more than fifty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars, But one would imagine that a PhD in

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<v Speaker 2>such things as means it might be a hefty hexted involved.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, that's all right, fine, we're kind of to

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<v Speaker 2>me we'd background part of this sort of stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't quite make sense about university. But okay, that's their world.

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<v Speaker 3>You do you.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the wok he's got involved, like the bloke

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<v Speaker 2>who at one point was trying to tell us to

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<v Speaker 2>become a republic.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's straightway. This person's an AUSSI legend.

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<v Speaker 2>We danced her own beat and bring marsupial energy to

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<v Speaker 2>every contest. She's a national treasurer. Give her an AO

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<v Speaker 2>Channel nine newspapers, I am you are, we all are

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<v Speaker 2>the dancer. And then despite the fact that people took

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<v Speaker 2>the piss because it felt like this athlete took the

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<v Speaker 2>piss that if you took the piss about this performance

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<v Speaker 2>and if you thought about mister g and if you

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<v Speaker 2>thought about cheese break dancing and Olympic Games, well you're

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<v Speaker 2>not just being mean. Apparently you are being sexist. You

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<v Speaker 2>are nasty and evil and knuckle dragging and all the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of it. Because the very same shift to Michaun,

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<v Speaker 2>who I've got to say, to this point done a

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<v Speaker 2>great job. You don't have to defend everything and turn

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<v Speaker 2>around and label it stuff like this.

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<v Speaker 3>But she did what we have had as women athletes

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<v Speaker 3>has faced in terms of criticism, be little men judgment

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<v Speaker 3>criticism and simple comments like they shouldn't be there?

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<v Speaker 1>What animy as a cyclist.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't it a phenomenal experience as somebody who beat the

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<v Speaker 2>world involved in the horrible car accident, she came back.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that sort of adversity that of course we celebrate,

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<v Speaker 2>but the idea that we're into sexism. If you found

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<v Speaker 2>the breakdancing a bit weird, it just feels a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit like one of those scenarios where people are just

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<v Speaker 2>coming up with reasons to end the conversation. Now again,

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<v Speaker 2>Australian athletes in sports that you wouldn't normally watch have

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<v Speaker 2>done an incredible job. And there's two in particular that

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<v Speaker 2>I love watching. I love watching at the Olympics. If

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<v Speaker 2>they're there in the Commonwealth Games, i love watching them.

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<v Speaker 2>I also don't mind watching the Nationals and try to

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<v Speaker 2>find this stuff online because my little girls love the

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<v Speaker 2>sports like rhythmic gymnastics with a team that comes together

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, it could be everything from the ball

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<v Speaker 2>to the ribbon and the coordination like the Italians today

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<v Speaker 2>with their rhythmic gymnastics thing with the hoops. Unbelievable artistry

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<v Speaker 2>and strength and all the rest of it. But you

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about hardcore female athletes? Is there any

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<v Speaker 2>hardercore female athlete at the Olympic Games. Yes, I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>this than the artistic swimming people, because not only do

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<v Speaker 2>they have to do all of the aerobic stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>like cheerleaders would do, say in the NFL, they have

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<v Speaker 2>to do it underwater, holding their breath and do it perfectly.

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<v Speaker 2>They are strong, and they are fierce, and they are

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<v Speaker 2>creative and they are cool. So please don't tell me

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<v Speaker 2>I'm being sexist and evil and nasty. When a person

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<v Speaker 2>is jumping around like a bunyip, it's just weird the watch,

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<v Speaker 2>and not really what we would love as the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>way of expressing ourselves globally. But she qualified, and good

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<v Speaker 2>luck to her, and may we never talk about her again.

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<v Speaker 1>But you and I both know what it's going to happen. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>She'll end up being some sort of massive celebrity and

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<v Speaker 2>they'll make a movie about it. Probably put a statue somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, as a way of pushing back against the sexism.

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<v Speaker 1>Just remember when you watched it and you just thought,

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<v Speaker 1>oh that's weird. Move on.

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<v Speaker 2>But the people that are going to bring this person

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<v Speaker 2>up and over and over again, you know what's going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen. But the best news breakdancing gone already four

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<v Speaker 2>years time at the LA Games, where you would think

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<v Speaker 2>breakdancing would probably be a thing. No, it's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a thing at the next Olympic Games. So

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy your fifteen minutes of fame. Or for some people,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to say shame, because they have great

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<v Speaker 2>pride and they have every right to be prideful about

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that they represented themselves at the Olympics. But

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<v Speaker 2>so did Eric the Eel remember him from the two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand Games. I think he's still swimming.

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<v Speaker 5>Now as we know.

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<v Speaker 2>The Prime Minister has such a connection to normal people.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's just it's really special. I mean here

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<v Speaker 2>he is just interacting at the most normal and not

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<v Speaker 2>at all cringey way with the Olympic athletes.

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<v Speaker 1>There was the little cut a way of Toto. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>it was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course, while all of that great distraction of

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<v Speaker 2>the past couple of weeks was happening. The reality in

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<v Speaker 2>people's lives is they can actually do two things at

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<v Speaker 2>once and while watching the Olympics at night or in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning, they were paying attention to what was happening

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<v Speaker 2>with the Reserve Bank and inflation during their day. Guess

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<v Speaker 2>what new poll just before Parliament comes back and Labor

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<v Speaker 2>is in the world of trouble. They are being marked

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<v Speaker 2>down specifically on economic management. But it's even worse than that.

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<v Speaker 2>If you ever look at the latest poles via the

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<v Speaker 2>nine newspapers and the Resolved Political Monitor, the ALP is

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<v Speaker 2>down four points four points since the last federal election.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be multiple seats clearly lost. We'll find out

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<v Speaker 2>from Newspoll either tonight or next week about just how many,

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<v Speaker 2>but we are definitely at this stage if these numbers

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<v Speaker 2>are correct, that is minority government territory, because of course

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<v Speaker 2>it's the Teals that block the Libs being able to

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<v Speaker 2>get anywhere near it. That said, when you automatically go

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<v Speaker 2>when you add say the Greens to the Labor Party,

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<v Speaker 2>well you could probably say that people who are One

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<v Speaker 2>Nation or United Australia Party supporters right now and that'd

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<v Speaker 2>be another eight percent on top of the Liberal vote,

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<v Speaker 2>gets a Liberal party deep into the forties and that

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<v Speaker 2>would be enough to start to flip a few seats.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be enough to see something seismic happen at

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<v Speaker 2>the election. Now again, until the data tells me what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening with the teals maths is mats. But the government

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<v Speaker 2>being able to hold onto its own majority off these

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<v Speaker 2>numbers would be impossible, and the government's going to have

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<v Speaker 2>to have some sort of a massive comeback. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to see a comeback being led by this prime minister. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>of course there could be another catastrophe, or there could

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<v Speaker 2>be a global pandemic or something that's going to mean that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Prime Minister goes from you know, gags

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<v Speaker 2>on the internet to sort of consoler in chief and

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly as numbers go up through the roof. But if

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<v Speaker 2>they continue being marked on their policies, they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>start going backwards and backwards fast. He goes have a

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<v Speaker 2>look at this when people who are asked by the

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<v Speaker 2>Channel nine newspapers, so Sidney one, Herald Age, Brisbane times

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<v Speaker 2>fifty one percent. So the Prime Minister's performance is poor

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<v Speaker 2>or very poor. Just a third number thirty three and

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<v Speaker 2>a third of people believe the prime minister is doing

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<v Speaker 2>a good or very good job, and for the second

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<v Speaker 2>poll this year, Peter Dutton outperforms Anthony Abernezi as the

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<v Speaker 2>preferred prime minister. Now those that will try to pretend

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<v Speaker 2>these numbers don't matter and don't so well, it's Queensland

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<v Speaker 2>that's overskewing anything. Well, at what point do they start

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<v Speaker 2>to call this a trend because what is even more

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<v Speaker 2>devastating than the numbers are the comments that people gave

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<v Speaker 2>to the polsters while they were giving their answers about

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<v Speaker 2>good job, bad job, who would you vote on on

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<v Speaker 2>which particular issue?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like this party or that party?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, of course, with a third of people there are

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<v Speaker 2>some positive comments, but have a look at this stuff

0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:01.680
<v Speaker 2>and acted up to what we have been talking about

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<v Speaker 2>since day one. Day one, you and I knew this

0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:08.240
<v Speaker 2>bloke was going to be a flop. We copped it

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<v Speaker 2>deeply at the time. Well, thankfully people are now starting

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<v Speaker 2>to wake up and start to speak as honestly as

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<v Speaker 2>you and I did a couple of years ago, because

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<v Speaker 2>have a look, things can't continue like this. The cost

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<v Speaker 2>of living increases are stupid Alberanze is coming across like

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<v Speaker 2>a king, a bit elitist and condescending. I don't think

0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.760
<v Speaker 2>the federal government is controlling the economy at all. All talk,

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<v Speaker 2>no action. Crime is out of control, and they're not

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<v Speaker 2>even admitting to it. Doesn't have the detail to hand

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<v Speaker 2>when he's answering questions. He's not across things. Our country

0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:46.480
<v Speaker 2>is in turmoil with crime and living costs, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>missing in action. We're under so much financial stress and

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<v Speaker 2>the government isn't lifting a finger now again, I would

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<v Speaker 2>love to sit here and tell you that Anthony Aberneze

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be a one term prime minist Because

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<v Speaker 2>of the number of teals and where they are and

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<v Speaker 2>the makeup of their electorates and how they voted in

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<v Speaker 2>the referendum last year, the likelihood of most of those

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<v Speaker 2>flipping back to the Liberal Party is unlikely. If I

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<v Speaker 2>see any data that proves that, then I'll gladly present

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<v Speaker 2>it to you. But until we know that data, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to sit here and fill you full

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<v Speaker 2>of fose false hope. But one thing that is seemingly

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<v Speaker 2>inevitable is the government losing control and having to go

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<v Speaker 2>cap in hand on every single thing they want to

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<v Speaker 2>do after the election for the next three years in

0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:38.600
<v Speaker 2>the lower House, as they will have to in the

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<v Speaker 2>Upper House. In the upper House it's the Greens and

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<v Speaker 2>Lamby and Pocock who have all the power. In the

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<v Speaker 2>lower House. It may well end up being Victorian Teals

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<v Speaker 2>as well as a collection of other people. It may

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<v Speaker 2>will not have even been elected to the Parliament who

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<v Speaker 2>will end up in power.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, all of these people will be asked during

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<v Speaker 2>an election, well after an election.

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<v Speaker 1>Which way are you're going to choose?

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<v Speaker 2>They will all pretend that they are not going to

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<v Speaker 2>make a choice, despite the fact that statistically that looks

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<v Speaker 2>like where we're headed now again, and I want to

0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:12.840
<v Speaker 2>get the cart before the horse, and the election seems

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<v Speaker 2>to be months away. But right now the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 2>is in trouble. And he's in trouble because he set

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<v Speaker 2>a false expectation of his prime ministership that power prices

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<v Speaker 2>would be lower they are higher, that he would deal

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<v Speaker 2>with the cost of living, which is worse. And the

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<v Speaker 2>reality when it comes to the Reserve Bank is there's

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<v Speaker 2>not a day goes by where they known tell us

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<v Speaker 2>nothing gets better for about another six months and that's

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<v Speaker 2>the best case scenario. So keep your eyes peeled because

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<v Speaker 2>I will for the media types that are trying to

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<v Speaker 2>give the free advice to the government on how.

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<v Speaker 1>It can save itself from itself.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is the same government that gives itself not one,

0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:53.240
<v Speaker 2>not two, but three pay rises since the last election.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the government that took fifteen hundred dollars off

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<v Speaker 2>ten million people.

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<v Speaker 1>To deal with the cost of living.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the people who, when it came to tax cuts,

0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.600
<v Speaker 2>delivered too little, too late to the people who truly

0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.160
<v Speaker 2>need it. And these are the people who, again, when

0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:12.280
<v Speaker 2>it comes to power prices, think that you will magically

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<v Speaker 2>forget what the promise was because they may eventually get

0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:19.119
<v Speaker 2>around to sending you twenty five dollars a month and

0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.520
<v Speaker 2>cutting that off your bill which is increasing by way

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<v Speaker 2>more than twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Dollars a month.

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<v Speaker 2>So some of the media types that are trying to

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<v Speaker 2>find a way out for the Prime minister. Here five

0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:34.080
<v Speaker 2>issues that threaten to derail the Albanezy government before the

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<v Speaker 2>next election, with plenty of ideas by the way about

0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:38.960
<v Speaker 2>how they can work around some of these things. Even

0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.560
<v Speaker 2>the ABC. Some labor voters are disappointed in the PM,

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<v Speaker 2>But there's still time to steady the ship, watch the

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<v Speaker 2>free advice, because these people do not like the idea

0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.800
<v Speaker 2>of a comfortable relationship with this Prime minister. The people

0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:55.200
<v Speaker 2>around in the bubble, within the bubble being disrupted. But

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like some people will notice that the Emperor

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<v Speaker 2>quite as clothed as he used to be. The ASIO

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<v Speaker 2>boss was on the ABC today after raising the terror

0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:10.120
<v Speaker 2>threat level, and again I should have think they should

0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.960
<v Speaker 2>have happened months ago, but it went from possible to probable.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Burgess also decided to drop a bit of information

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<v Speaker 2>about the number of foreign governments that are actively interfering

0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:22.280
<v Speaker 2>in Australian communities. Now, of course, if they're interfering in

0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Australian communities, then I think they're potentially interfering in elections.

0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.520
<v Speaker 2>But we couldn't possibly get involved in any of that.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be a far right wing conspiracy. Here he

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<v Speaker 2>is talking about some of those nations, including allegedly friendly ones,

0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:37.320
<v Speaker 2>that are sending plenty of not so subtle messages to

0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.719
<v Speaker 2>the local community about how they should act, what they

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<v Speaker 2>should fire up about, and potentially which way they should vote.

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<v Speaker 6>There are a range of countries that will do it,

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<v Speaker 6>not just Iran, many countries that would surprise your viewers.

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<v Speaker 6>When we find it, we deal with it effectively.

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<v Speaker 1>Why can you know me Iran and not others.

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<v Speaker 6>Becas Minister O'Neil mentioned Iran publicly, generally, I'm not in

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<v Speaker 6>the business of actually giving up the whole range of

0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:02.919
<v Speaker 6>countries other than to tell your audience there's more than

0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:04.920
<v Speaker 6>one country. I can think of, at least three or

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<v Speaker 6>four that we've actually actively found involved in foreign interference

0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:10.080
<v Speaker 6>in Australia and deasperate communities.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, on top of all of this, another thing that

0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:17.040
<v Speaker 2>makes people uncomfortable right now is that today in Brisbane

0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:20.960
<v Speaker 2>there was some sort of a showing of a couple

0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:24.159
<v Speaker 2>of dozen people claiming to be neo Nazis. Now, just

0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:26.680
<v Speaker 2>as we did when this stuff popped up in and

0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:30.240
<v Speaker 2>around Australia day, this stuff's not acceptable in any way,

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<v Speaker 2>shape or form. I hope each and every single one

0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:34.720
<v Speaker 2>of these people ends up being arrested. The idea that

0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:37.160
<v Speaker 2>so many of them covered their faces, well, the cowardice

0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:39.120
<v Speaker 2>that applies to them applies to the people who turn

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<v Speaker 2>up in all sorts of rallies covering their faces. Today,

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<v Speaker 2>Queensland Police apparently arrested at least four people in relation

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<v Speaker 2>to this. Sorry, the police spokesperson says that it is

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<v Speaker 2>alleged at this time that members of a group have

0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:02.040
<v Speaker 2>become disruptive and obstructed police. As any result, four people

0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:04.560
<v Speaker 2>in the group were taken into custody the assisting police

0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:06.760
<v Speaker 2>with their inquiries. So we'll all find out what's happening

0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.600
<v Speaker 2>there together. But also when we were talking about the

0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:11.639
<v Speaker 2>types of things that make people feel uncomfortable, like in

0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:14.080
<v Speaker 2>those polls, it is interesting to the number of people

0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:18.280
<v Speaker 2>that are saying crime. Now the federal parliamentary people will say, well,

0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:20.800
<v Speaker 2>we were crimes local issues of state issue. Well, hang on,

0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:24.879
<v Speaker 2>health and education is also a state issue. It's just

0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:28.640
<v Speaker 2>the federal government that ends up funding it. And all

0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:33.159
<v Speaker 2>forms of politics love to mix things up. But the

0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:35.120
<v Speaker 2>reality that it's starting to come up in a group

0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:37.800
<v Speaker 2>of people and they think that it's important enough to

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<v Speaker 2>actually start to mention in national polls shows the types

0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:45.200
<v Speaker 2>of things that concern us, the stuff that's coming from overseas,

0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:48.320
<v Speaker 2>the craziness that may will be happening on our streets

0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:52.159
<v Speaker 2>in terms of radicalization. Then of course there's the crimes

0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:55.479
<v Speaker 2>that happen all day, every day, where a fourteen year

0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:59.320
<v Speaker 2>old girl has been accused.

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<v Speaker 5>Of murder in a caravan park in Queensland fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, remember there are people amongstus who would like to

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<v Speaker 2>raise the age of criminal responsibility to just fourteen. That

0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:14.840
<v Speaker 2>fourteen is when things should kick in. But right now

0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:17.440
<v Speaker 2>a fourteen year old is being accused of that particular crime.

0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Then there was a horrible car accident that took place

0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:25.560
<v Speaker 2>this weekend where a nineteen year old died as a

0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:28.159
<v Speaker 2>result of a vehicle that was allegedly being driven by

0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:35.160
<v Speaker 2>a sixteen year old. The stuff matters, This stuff upsets people.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the stuff that we demand our leaders show

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<v Speaker 2>zero tolerance for. Now, it will be fascinating in the

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<v Speaker 2>next twenty four hours what people will show their.

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<v Speaker 1>Zero tolerance for.

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<v Speaker 2>Will they show their zero tolerance for the stealing of cars?

0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Will they show their zero tolerance for teenagers involved in murder?

0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Will they show their zero tolerance from foreign governments trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get involved in our society, where they show zero

0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:05.520
<v Speaker 2>tolerance for the appearance of neo Nazis on our streets. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, the answer is all of those things and

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot more, because regardless of whether you are left,

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<v Speaker 2>right or center.

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<v Speaker 1>Living with safety and security.

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<v Speaker 2>Is one of the most fundamental things that all governments

0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:23.960
<v Speaker 2>must deliver for us. And when we see endless examples

0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:26.640
<v Speaker 2>of them failing to do so, then they can tell

0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:29.520
<v Speaker 2>us everything they want about what their priorities are. But

0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:32.800
<v Speaker 2>we all know what their priorities are, which is covering

0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:38.280
<v Speaker 2>their backside and changing the subject now on the show,

0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:42.800
<v Speaker 2>we are pro police. We are pro police because they

0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:48.000
<v Speaker 2>go towards the most difficult of situations when everyone else

0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:50.320
<v Speaker 2>runs the other way. This is their job. This is

0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:52.600
<v Speaker 2>what they do for twelve hours.

0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:55.600
<v Speaker 5>Each shift, and they do it for years and years

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<v Speaker 5>and years.

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<v Speaker 2>This program is pro the fire Brigade, and not just

0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:04.119
<v Speaker 2>because they put fires out, but because, particularly the volunteers

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:06.320
<v Speaker 2>and regional areas where they end up responding to things

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:11.560
<v Speaker 2>like car accidents, they have seen horrible things. And this

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:16.640
<v Speaker 2>program is pro ambulance and paramedics because again they see

0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:18.440
<v Speaker 2>people in the worst moments of their life.

0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:23.480
<v Speaker 1>That is their job. But all of these people.

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<v Speaker 2>Suffer from the traumas that they experience. We do virtually

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<v Speaker 2>nothing as a society to actually support the men and

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:40.639
<v Speaker 2>women of our emergency services. Littlone the volunteers in our

0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:45.359
<v Speaker 2>emergency services for when they decide to leave any of

0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:49.000
<v Speaker 2>those services. Now there's some support, of course while you

0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 2>are working, and obviously you can ring this hotline and

0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:52.920
<v Speaker 2>ring that hot line all the rest of it, right,

0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:57.679
<v Speaker 2>but the support is not there, and many people end

0:23:57.760 --> 0:24:00.600
<v Speaker 2>up leaving the police, the fire, the ambulance and the

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:04.360
<v Speaker 2>voluntary services way longer, way before they would actually plan

0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:07.960
<v Speaker 2>on doing so because of the traumas and the stresses

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:12.119
<v Speaker 2>that end are building inside their bodies. We need to

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:17.960
<v Speaker 2>have a Royal commission into trauma in our emergency services.

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 2>How do we help these people who help us all

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 2>day every day. And of course wider conversations need to

0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:29.280
<v Speaker 2>be had about mental health and mental illness, and about

0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:33.160
<v Speaker 2>some of the madness that police, fire and ambulance people

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:35.280
<v Speaker 2>have to deal with every day, let alone the nurses

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:41.679
<v Speaker 2>and everyone else, because our system does not treat effectively

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:45.240
<v Speaker 2>enough the people who wander amongst us, who clearly shouldn't

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:48.159
<v Speaker 2>be wandering amongst us, not because we don't want to

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:50.880
<v Speaker 2>be confronted by something that is uncomfortable, but because we're

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:53.879
<v Speaker 2>waning to make sure that those people are safe, That

0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 2>people who may well end up harming themselves or others.

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<v Speaker 2>Are safe in a place where they are treated with

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<v Speaker 2>absolute dignity, but do not have to scrounge and fight

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:09.119
<v Speaker 2>like so often they do when they end up on

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 2>skid row. Perfect example of this which has come after

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:18.840
<v Speaker 2>the terrorist actions where those police officers were killed in Queensland.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, as you know, the.

0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Coroner is currently having an investigation into all of this

0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:28.800
<v Speaker 2>and he claims this being the police Union and the

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Police Commissioner, that we need to have greater focus in

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:35.960
<v Speaker 2>and around mental health. I'm concerned that we're seeing more

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:40.159
<v Speaker 2>people with weapons, bladed weapons in particular, wanting to confront

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:43.480
<v Speaker 2>police in these types of situations, says the Police Commissioner.

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:46.119
<v Speaker 2>It's something I'm very concerned about. Looking at the numbers

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:48.119
<v Speaker 2>of shootings that we've had in recent years, there's no

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:51.160
<v Speaker 2>particular trend. The trend go up and down year to year,

0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 2>but we're seeing increased numbers of people with mental health

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:58.720
<v Speaker 2>issues involved. As for the police Union, they say that

0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 2>although they don't really believe in inquiries or royal commissions,

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 2>they want a Royal commission into the issue of mental health.

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 2>The Health Department is funded nationally and the states administer

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:12.399
<v Speaker 2>the funds accordingly. So I believe this is a national

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 2>issue where we are seeing people who are affected by

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:19.880
<v Speaker 2>mental health, who need treatments and have traveled between states

0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:22.240
<v Speaker 2>and different jurisdictions. Because often when you do that, the

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 2>computer and your record is wiped or it becomes harder

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:28.280
<v Speaker 2>to work out what your history is. Mental health is

0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 2>something the police do with on a daily basis. We

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:32.680
<v Speaker 2>need to look at the greater issue of mental health

0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 2>within society and address it and provide treatment, not incarceration. See,

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:41.560
<v Speaker 2>this is the whole point, right about priorities of government.

0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 2>I remember in the twenty nineteen election People's Forum, Bruce

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 2>here on Sky News and Bill Shorten, I think it

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 2>was who was asking about does anyone know somebody who

0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 2>has committed suicide? And basically after the room put their

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:58.120
<v Speaker 2>hand up. Scott Morrison at the time, I think, asked

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 2>a similar question about mental health and again and put

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:05.639
<v Speaker 2>their hand up. You See, nobody thinks government can solve

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 2>all of these problems because many of these problems are individuals,

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 2>and individuals who do or don't want to seek treatment,

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 2>do or don't want to take the drugs that they

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 2>are prescribed, but we've got.

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 1>A massive problem here.

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 2>And if you actually saw a government who was willing

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:25.440
<v Speaker 2>to look into all of this where everything is on

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 2>the table. No, not dark and dingy sandstone institutions of

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:35.520
<v Speaker 2>the nineteen thirties, not electro shock therapy, but somebody having

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 2>the courage to say, maybe there are some people who

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:41.399
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be out there who are out there. Conversely, when

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:43.360
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about mental health in the same way we're

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 2>talking about it with veterans, why not talk about it

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 2>with the emergency services. You see governments that actually invest

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 2>in this stuff and I mean time and political capital

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 2>and make this stuff priorities. They stand out from the

0:27:56.920 --> 0:28:01.160
<v Speaker 2>crowd because if you're just doing what say, the queen's

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 2>own government's doing, which is just pretending, oh well, one

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars for this and three hundred dollars for that

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 2>and fifty cents for this and lower petrol, all of

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 2>that guff and garbage. Want to deal with the real stuff,

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:16.680
<v Speaker 2>and then people go, this is a real person who

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 2>will be fighting on real issues, and that's why they

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 2>deserve my vote.

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:21.919
<v Speaker 1>But of course it would be.

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 2>A brave government, and we do not have an era

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 2>of brave politicians amongst us. I hope someone proves me wrong,

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 2>perhaps as soon as tomorrow. A couple of quick things

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 2>worth mentioning. Remember the news of Oil's premier, Dominique Peritate.

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Now he was the common sense man sitting around a

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 2>table that often made weird decisions in New South Wales,

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 2>but he was one of the first leaders to actually

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 2>start to break the seal. He actually gave an interview

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 2>after leaving News of Oil's politics where he says that

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 2>his government didn't deserve a fourth term. So you just

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 2>should have saved the Liberal Party money and not had

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 2>a campaign.

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps.

0:28:57.640 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 2>What about these bastards And I'm sorry to use that word,

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 2>but I'm going to who went around to Woomba and

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 2>the cemetery there three hundred different headstones have been damaged,

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 2>knocked over, smashed up, all of it in a night. Now,

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 2>these people, honestly, this isn't vandalism. This is something worse.

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 2>Why because that's people, it's people under the earth. That's

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 2>people who may will still be amongst us, or the

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 2>people who are long gone in both directions, who tended

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 2>to those graves.

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Whose job is it to fix?

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Remember, it's not the cemetery but it's the individuals about

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 2>what happens there. I'll keep you updated meantime. Another list

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 2>of similar B words. There is a park in northern Sydney.

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 2>It's at Taramorrow, I think, yes, in Northern Sydney where

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 2>somebody decided to pull off the wall one of the

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 2>brass plates that had all the names of people who

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 2>had from the local area and fought in the First

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 2>World War. Why because they'll smelt it down and they'll

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:10.479
<v Speaker 2>make money from it. Yeah, but I do twist now

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 2>to a slightly better version, but a similar type of story.

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Remember a few months ago I told you about.

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 1>A horrible, awful story.

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Little girl died. Mum and dad put a little tiara

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 2>on her headstone and someone stole it, because yeah, people

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 2>do this stuff. Thankfully, the parents made a lot of

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 2>noise about it. They were willing to talk about how

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 2>horrible this made them feel. And a couple of weeks

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 2>ago somebody decided to return it.

0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 1>So they got it back.

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 2>They got this symbol of that little girl back and

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:47.959
<v Speaker 2>I don't know where it is right now. But how

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 2>do we not have cameras, motion cameras, all the rest

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 2>of that around all of these cemeteries, all monuments and.

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 1>All the rest of it.

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 2>They've got plenty of cameras for illegal dumping and jaywalking

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 2>and looking at your What about some extra stuff in

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 2>and around here, we'll find together. Donald Trump did not

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 2>have a good weekend. Now we will prefer when he's

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 2>a dancing man. He's leading the poles. He's got the swagger.

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 2>He's ready to go fight, fight, fight. But a couple

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 2>of things we need to tell you about. Apparently his

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 2>campaign has been hacked. The assumption is that it has

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 2>come from Iran. Internal emails may well get leaked. This,

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 2>of course, happened at Hillary campaign in sixteen. The reason

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 2>that Iran would want to do it is because he

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 2>wants to tear up the Iron Nuclear Deal and they

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 2>would have to add back.

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Billions of dollars.

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Meantime, New York Times kind of the A grade poll

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 2>at the national level says that Harris is leading, and

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 2>she's leading in three swing states, the most important one Pennsylvania. Remember,

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 2>if Trump doesn't win Pennsylvania, then he doesn't win the presidency.

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 2>And he definitely needs to also win the state of Nevada.

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Now he's been able to win the state of Nevada

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 2>because or been leading, I should say, in the state

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:00.120
<v Speaker 2>of Nevada, because he told all the people who work

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 2>in the casinos, no tax on tips. The Democrats have

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 2>now said, yep, good idea, we'll do that too. This

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 2>is generally a place that has always voted blue. If

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 2>it flips back, then this thing becomes very line ball.

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 2>If you can't get up in Pennsylvania, then of course

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 2>it will be a loss. But it's not all bad

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 2>news because there are some people that are the pole

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 2>aggregators who say, hey, okay, radio, just don't get too excited. Yes,

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 2>she's going to win in the national polls because there

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 2>are more people in New York, there are more people

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 2>in California, and they're going to beat by a bigger margin.

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 2>So who cares if she's leading by two or four

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 2>or six, Because when we're actually talking about the United States,

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 2>the right track wrong track is rather important as well.

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Now this is regardless of whether it's Biden or it's Harris,

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 2>but certainly after Harris became the Democrat nominee, the number

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 2>of people in the United States I think the joints

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 2>headed in the wrong direction. It remains astonishingly high. Sixty five,

0:32:57.000 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 2>sixty six, sixty one, seventy percent of people or sixty percent.

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not toil entirely sure how the person who's

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 2>been around the table for the past four years has

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 2>been side by side with the bloke making everything worse

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 2>is apparently the panacea for everything. But we know there's

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 2>the great Carmela Reducts that's happening under our very own

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 2>noses and before our very own eyes. But we've got

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 2>to hope the good people of the United States don't

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 2>fall for the bull and they just look at what's

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 2>the reality around them. As for the top battleground states,

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 2>again real qulear politics. It puts together all of the

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 2>existing polls Arizona Trump leading, Nevada, Trump leading, Wisconsin, Trump leading, Michigan,

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 2>Trump losing, Pennsylvania leading just and I mean just zero

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 2>point eight of a percent. So that's a time North

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Carolina leading, and Georgia just now. If he lost Nevada

0:33:54.920 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 2>and Georgia game over, if he lost Pennsylvania and game over,

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 2>If he lost Nevada and Pennsylvania, game over, and that's.

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 5>The good news.

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Quick breakback with more plenty to.

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Talk about, including bold predictions for the weak ahead as

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Parliament comes back. Our bows in the world of trouble

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 2>and does anyone have the balls to deal with mental health?

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:18.399
<v Speaker 2>And yet the weirdness of the Olympics more than a cent.

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh so much to talk about, from breakdancing to politics

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 2>and all in between. We will do so with Graham Lloyd,

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:32.280
<v Speaker 2>the associate editor of The Australian newspaper, also particular expertise

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:34.400
<v Speaker 2>in and around the environment sector. The lady who is

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 2>about to step off Sydney City Council. And I've got

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 2>to say it was an absolute honor to be amongst

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 2>friends and fans as she had sort of a valedictory

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 2>dinner on behalf of those that she's worked with in

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 2>local government. Our wonderful mate Linda Scott labor to her bootstraps.

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:50.320
<v Speaker 2>But who cares because we all love each other.

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Don't we?

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:53.320
<v Speaker 7>Friends across the political divid It was lovely, Thank you

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 7>for coming, and it was lovely to have actually just

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 7>you know, mayors from right across the state, right across

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 7>the country there to have a celebration about how united

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 7>and fantastic local government was.

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 2>I love that you can tell who's from Burke and

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 2>you can tell who's from Newtown and they all love

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Linda and rightly, so all right, let's talk.

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Just okay, can we took on the breakdancing thing?

0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:16.839
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so right now, good luck? Did they qualify yes?

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:19.839
<v Speaker 2>Is it their thing? Yes? Did she write a doctoral thesis? Yes?

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Was it weird? Absolutely? Is it sexist to talk about it?

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:24.880
<v Speaker 8>No?

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Why does the Prime minister have an opinion on the issue.

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:33.880
<v Speaker 8>The Olympics is about people participating in sport.

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 2>That's a good thing.

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:40.440
<v Speaker 8>And Reagan had a crack good honor and a big

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 8>shout out to her. That is in the Australian tradition

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 8>of people having a go. She's had a go representing

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:50.839
<v Speaker 8>our country and that's a good thing.

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 5>no no.

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Kids. Soccer is about participation, all right. The Olympic Games

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 2>is some slightly different, I am, but how did we

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 2>get here where the collective sort of oh that was

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 2>weird has now become dividing lines on worldviews? Here it's breakdancing,

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:10.799
<v Speaker 2>it's come, it's gone, and it won't be coming back

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 2>to the Olympics.

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:15.399
<v Speaker 2>Look, it's quite incredible, isn't that? Paul?

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:17.319
<v Speaker 4>I think too good? On her for having a crack,

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 4>but she represented Australia. She had a crack, she scored

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 4>no points, and people felt, wow, this isn't really the

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:27.800
<v Speaker 4>way we roll, and they had something to say about it.

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 4>I think the best you can say is that you know,

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 4>when you put yourself in that position, it's never a

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 4>good day to look at what they're saying about you

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:37.800
<v Speaker 4>on social media. And as far as it being a

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.760
<v Speaker 4>gender thing, very hard to believe. I mean, it wouldn't

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 4>matter who did it, the response would be the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 2>I noticed some of the people that are deep diving

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 2>now because obviously you know doctoral thesis, there's a bit

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 2>of thinking behind all of what we saw here. Apparently

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:57.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm noticing here and some of the online stuff right

0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 2>that she's intentionally bad because it is an attempt to

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 2>subvert the meritocracy basically, and it is about making sure

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:09.320
<v Speaker 2>that and I can hear, I'm just going to wow, Okay,

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 2>this is from her doctoral thesis. Our confession then opens

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 2>up the space to consider the ethics of who can

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:21.080
<v Speaker 2>access and traverse hip hop's hierarchies of authority, because if

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 2>we break down the model of authenticity further, I don't

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 2>care I don't care.

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:32.959
<v Speaker 7>Here's the thing, Paul Murray, when was the last time

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:40.160
<v Speaker 7>you read a Western Sydney doctoral thesis? Nothing else. This

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 7>incredible woman should be celebrated academic life, you know, to

0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 7>the public debate.

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Of course, I love her.

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 7>I think she's amazing and she dances to the rhythm

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 7>of her own What a fantastic thing to do. I mean,

0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:59.760
<v Speaker 7>I do think that there's been lots of performances across

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 7>the Olympics actually where we've seen. My sons were cheering

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:06.439
<v Speaker 7>for the fact that the second last runner in last

0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:09.319
<v Speaker 7>night's marathon was a Macedoni. They were going mental about

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:11.440
<v Speaker 7>how great that was. So there's been lots of cheering

0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 7>for the underdog as well as lots of cheering, of

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 7>course for the incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>But as my passionate lefty is, it's sexist for us

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 2>just to say she was terrible.

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:21.719
<v Speaker 7>But I do think some of the country has been

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 7>a bit sexist, because you wouldn't get that for a

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:26.239
<v Speaker 7>man who got no points a.

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 2>Bloke dance like that. If any bloke, any person dance

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 2>like that, I'd be ripping in terror, just exactly the

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:34.200
<v Speaker 2>same way I had to. Even went through the whole

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:35.200
<v Speaker 2>thing about how I loved or.

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 7>You haven't mean you you haven't like there's no kind

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 7>of because there's no example of it. Well you haven't seen.

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Here's the example of the zero points bloke with the

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:46.800
<v Speaker 2>cap dancing around like a bunyip. When that happens, I

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:47.920
<v Speaker 2>promise you will.

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:51.640
<v Speaker 7>I look forward to doing that with you next Olympics.

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 7>But I'm you know, I'm with Peter fitz Simons.

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 2>I am you are. We are right, he will be

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:00.960
<v Speaker 2>rage watching as we speak. They were hello to the

0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Bandanna man used to invite me to his house, of course,

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:05.360
<v Speaker 2>but then he said no too rightly.

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Very inclusive though.

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Isn't he. Now Let's talk here to the pols that

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 2>have dropped this evening which shows prime instruments in trouble right,

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:16.880
<v Speaker 2>fifty one fifty one percent of people saying poor or

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 2>very poor, a third of the country saying okay.

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:20.880
<v Speaker 1>The rest, of course, all still up for grabs.

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:24.800
<v Speaker 2>The comments in the Poland was really interesting here, and Graham,

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, I've had a sense about why the government

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't live up to its promises. But thankfully people are

0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 2>now starting to notice, Hey, didn't you promise lower cost

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 2>of living? Didn't you promise lower power bills. Didn't you

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 2>promise transparency? And all of those things haven't turned up,

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 2>and the supposed solutions to many of those things are

0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:46.320
<v Speaker 2>either mirages like the three hundred bucks for mansions and

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 2>one bedroom houses in the bush, or they're too little,

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:52.680
<v Speaker 2>too late, sort of crumbs falling off the table, and

0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:53.840
<v Speaker 2>we're told to be grateful.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Paul, you always get down to the main game,

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 4>which is the economy. In every election, the time is

0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:08.919
<v Speaker 4>running out for the federal government. Here the Reserve Bank

0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 4>is sending messages that look, it's not going to plan.

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:16.960
<v Speaker 4>It's not going to be cutting rates on the timetable

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:19.800
<v Speaker 4>that the government would like to have, and that is

0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:23.959
<v Speaker 4>starting to seep into people's consciousness. I think the first

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 4>year there was a lot of distraction. People are now

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.399
<v Speaker 4>waking up and saying, well, look, what is the big

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:34.239
<v Speaker 4>picture here and how does it affect me? And you're

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:36.319
<v Speaker 4>starting to see it in the polls, and I'm sure

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:37.720
<v Speaker 4>they would start to be worried.

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:41.279
<v Speaker 2>Now again, Linda, I do the caveat, so I follow that,

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 2>you know all the rest of it, saying, you know,

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:46.000
<v Speaker 2>evidence about the till seats moving, if the teal seats

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 2>don't move, then it's just a conversation about majority versus minority.

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 2>But the polls are relentless about a minority government. Now,

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Anthony Alberaneze will so what I dealt with Oakshot, I

0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 2>dealt with windsor we got the Greens and but we

0:40:58.120 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 2>did it last time, we can do it again.

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:01.280
<v Speaker 1>But it's different when you're the prime minister.

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 2>It means you have to go to them on every

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 2>single issue and what give them to sign an NDA

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:09.360
<v Speaker 2>before you make a decision that that is not what

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 2>Australian Well, it is what Australians want because they'll vote

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 2>for it, but that's not great for the country if

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:14.759
<v Speaker 2>they do.

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<v Speaker 7>Look, I think that there's no doubt coming into the

0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 7>next federal election that labor will be the underdog again.

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 7>The global economic circumstances that we face and the inflationary

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 7>pressures of course not just here in Australia but really

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:31.800
<v Speaker 7>globally very significant and for that reason, you know Grahame

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 7>is right. The economy is such a big indicator of

0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:38.920
<v Speaker 7>how people vote, labor will clearly be the underdog. These polls,

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:42.239
<v Speaker 7>though released just tonight, show us that actually labor has

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 7>increased a point when it comes to their primary vote

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:47.640
<v Speaker 7>and the coalition has gone down one point.

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>So you know, this is from the last pole.

0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 7>This is going to be yes correct, from the last poll.

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:56.200
<v Speaker 7>This is going to be a tight election, and we

0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 7>don't know when it will be held. But look, it

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 7>is the case that so much of the government's skilled

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 7>management of the economy is not necessarily able to be

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:08.959
<v Speaker 7>completely visible to people.

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:09.800
<v Speaker 2>I do want to call that.

0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 7>There's a great article I read it online by John

0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:15.399
<v Speaker 7>Rolph who write about his efforts to just go through

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:17.839
<v Speaker 7>and save his family a bit of money on their

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:20.920
<v Speaker 7>power bills, saving more than the kind of three hundred

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:24.040
<v Speaker 7>dollars promised. So there are ways that people can look

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 7>at their cost of living pressures and really work with

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:28.919
<v Speaker 7>the efforts and the policies of the government to drive

0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:33.239
<v Speaker 7>them down. But here's the line. Peter Dutton has to

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:37.080
<v Speaker 7>outline what he's going to do differently, and the issue

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 7>at the moment is we don't know what that is.

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 1>We don't know what.

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 7>Peter Dutton and the Liberals and the Nationals are going

0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 7>to cut. They've said they don't want the wage growth

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 7>that we've seen under labor Will you know, will they

0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:52.839
<v Speaker 7>stop that, Will they pull the wage increases that we've

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:58.839
<v Speaker 7>seen for you know earlier we've well, no, but we've

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 7>got to see what Peter Dutton is putting on the

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 7>table that he says he's going to make a difference,

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 7>and we just don't know any of that.

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:06.839
<v Speaker 2>And Graham has been this has been my issue right now.

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:10.400
<v Speaker 2>If the economy is front and center, then an opposition

0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:12.800
<v Speaker 2>needs to actually say, in part, what would he do

0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 2>to help deal with it? Right now, I know that

0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:17.240
<v Speaker 2>the way that for a lot of people politics works,

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 2>which is we vote out governments. We don't vote in oppositions,

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:22.480
<v Speaker 2>but you have to if you don't have like the

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 2>treasurer from the last government who everyone loved, which they

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 2>don't and everyone didn't. But that's a difficult offering because

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 2>it's not like you're going back to the people who

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 2>were okay. This was part of the issue and part

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:38.320
<v Speaker 2>of the advantage that the Libs had in twenty and

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:40.560
<v Speaker 2>ten in twenty thirteen is they had some of the

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:43.040
<v Speaker 2>rump of the people that were there during the Howard years.

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 2>There's not going to be that sort of automatic Oh,

0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:47.319
<v Speaker 2>let's just go back to the way it was, because

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:50.759
<v Speaker 2>of course what was was heavily rejected. Do you think

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:52.879
<v Speaker 2>that Peter Dutton needs to actually say, okay, well here's

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:55.320
<v Speaker 2>a couple of my ideas when it comes to the economy,

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 2>or you don't do that because this model.

0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Just steal them.

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 4>I think Peter Dunn has to say that the most

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 4>important thing is productivity and growing the economy.

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 2>He can cast back to the Howd and.

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:14.440
<v Speaker 4>Costello years and say that there was a good economic

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 4>management there and it was about growing the economy. Paul

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:21.279
<v Speaker 4>Keating was always about growing the pie before you cut

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 4>it up.

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 2>And if you look at the language.

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:26.240
<v Speaker 4>From the Reserve Bank now and the way the government

0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 4>is really putting the effort into the public sector and

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 4>that is crowding out the private sector, it is the

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 4>wrong productivity message. I think there is fertile ground there

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:43.760
<v Speaker 4>for the coalition to stand on its record on the economy,

0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:49.239
<v Speaker 4>which is generally a strength, and the Albansi government at

0:44:49.280 --> 0:44:52.439
<v Speaker 4>this point in time really needs to get the message out.

0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:55.720
<v Speaker 2>That it's up to the task. Yeah, Labour's probably volt falls.

0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Liberal parties lifts in newspaper which has just dropped online.

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Simon Ben's the details they're two.

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:03.359
<v Speaker 2>Party preferred is it fifty to fifty and fifty seven

0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 2>percent of people believe there will be a minority government

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:08.319
<v Speaker 2>after the next election. Quick break back with more here

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:16.359
<v Speaker 2>on Palmary Life. Thank you so much for watching here

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 2>with Graham, Lloyd and with the delightful, delightful Linda Scott.

0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk here about I wasn't taking the piece.

0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I actually do like you.

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:29.279
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk here about Harris and Trump. Look, pick your

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:31.880
<v Speaker 2>numbers about whether Trump is starting to go underwater or

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 2>whether Harris is.

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:33.439
<v Speaker 1>Hitting a high point.

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:36.800
<v Speaker 2>From here, of course, there is still the Democratic Convention.

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Then there's the debates. There's a couple of things that

0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:41.359
<v Speaker 2>will either make things better or worse for the person

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:41.920
<v Speaker 2>that you would like.

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 5>In my case, micro pretend it's Trump, Graham.

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 2>Obviously, this is one of those moments where people need

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 2>to understand that, just as it was for Biden that

0:45:52.520 --> 0:45:54.400
<v Speaker 2>as soon as he went south, he stayed south and

0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:57.319
<v Speaker 2>never moved, that people shouldn't have the assumption that, oh,

0:45:57.400 --> 0:45:58.800
<v Speaker 2>you can be behind for a little bit because you

0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:01.720
<v Speaker 2>can fight back later. What's your read of what's happening

0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:05.880
<v Speaker 2>in America right now? Well, I think.

0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:11.719
<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump had momentum when Joe Biden was there, it

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:15.720
<v Speaker 4>was his strongest suit. You would expect that Kamala Harris

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:17.759
<v Speaker 4>is going to get a bit of a honeymoon and

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:23.480
<v Speaker 4>a bounce from being put up as a presumptive nominee.

0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:25.760
<v Speaker 2>It's still early days.

0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:30.040
<v Speaker 4>I think we haven't seen a head to head contest

0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:33.600
<v Speaker 4>between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris. There's a lot of

0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:36.360
<v Speaker 4>things that can go wrong between here and November for

0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:40.640
<v Speaker 4>both sides. So I think we need to see the convention.

0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:46.160
<v Speaker 4>We need to see how each tackles the other in public,

0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:50.920
<v Speaker 4>and then I think the American voters will start to

0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:51.719
<v Speaker 4>make up their mind.

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, Linda, he's the danger zones for both

0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:59.959
<v Speaker 2>of them. Right, Harris is tightly controlled, stay on score

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:03.560
<v Speaker 2>ripped because if you give them an opportunity, then obviously

0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 2>the people who don't want you are going to come

0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:05.759
<v Speaker 2>at you pretty hard.

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:08.160
<v Speaker 5>But you can't go through and not do an interview,

0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 5>or not give a speech, or not do it.

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:11.000
<v Speaker 1>It's just not possible.

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Maybe, but we didn't think that it'll be possible to

0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:15.800
<v Speaker 2>push you out of president, but of course they did. Conversely,

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:17.880
<v Speaker 2>if Trump starts to think that he's losing it, then

0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:20.080
<v Speaker 2>he might think I've got to take wilder and wilder swings,

0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:23.640
<v Speaker 2>and that of course makes things for some people ever worse. Clearly,

0:47:23.640 --> 0:47:25.280
<v Speaker 2>you're feeling better than you were when it was Biden.

0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:28.520
<v Speaker 7>Look, it's hard to remember, but it was only you know,

0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:33.640
<v Speaker 7>three weeks ago Biden was still the Democratic nominee, presumptive nominee.

0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:36.320
<v Speaker 7>So it's been a pretty remarkable three weeks, hasn't it

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:38.480
<v Speaker 7>in US politics? And when you look at the poles,

0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:42.680
<v Speaker 7>of course Harris has now much more momentum. But when

0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:45.120
<v Speaker 7>you take an average of all the polls currently, you know,

0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:47.840
<v Speaker 7>it's half percent between them. So I think it is

0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:52.120
<v Speaker 7>a really, really unpredictable race. We're right all to point

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 7>out that there's a long way to go. What is

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 7>also interesting, though, is that they're two really experienced candidates,

0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:01.040
<v Speaker 7>Like usually in these races, you know, you don't have

0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:05.880
<v Speaker 7>a vice president president, right, So I think it is

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<v Speaker 7>going to be this really interesting race. Both good campaigners,

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<v Speaker 7>both pretty organized machines, both experienced leaders in their own right,

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<v Speaker 7>and very tight polls but a very divided America. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>I just think it's going to be a fascinating race

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<v Speaker 7>to watch. But again, you know, as a clearly you

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<v Speaker 7>know labor Democrat person. I mean, if Trump wins, it

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<v Speaker 7>is going to have international ramifications. You know, there are yes,

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<v Speaker 7>everything will get better, there are I saw a piece

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<v Speaker 7>tonight about farmers, you know that are worried in America

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<v Speaker 7>about the trade deals and the impact. It's going to

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<v Speaker 7>be bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It won't be relaxed. I can talk you through all

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<v Speaker 2>the other talking points.

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<v Speaker 1>That will be fine. Thank you very much, Linda, Thank you, Graham.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you again tomorrow night. He's a Royal report.