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Speaker 1: Get a team, Craig Anthey, Harper, what's your middle name again?

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Speaker 1: Jeffrow John? Oh that's it, Jeffrey John Jowd. I should

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Speaker 2: Fuck.

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Speaker 1: That's negligent and reticent of me. How a big fella.

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Speaker 2: Made any better? I'd be twins harps and even better

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Speaker 2: for seeing your head in that wonderful upgraded studio by

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is razzle dazzle. This is a you

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Speaker 2: It's very impressive and I wouldn't have known.

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Speaker 1: No, it's where I'm actually in my office. But the

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Speaker 1: photo is of a real studio. So that's the Nova

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Speaker 1: the Nova platform. Did I say Nova?

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Speaker 2: Yeah you did Nova Nova Nov Nov.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's the actual grown up, proper studio that

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Speaker 1: I use when I can be fucked to drive into

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Speaker 1: and seeing is that we're only audio. I sit here

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Speaker 1: drive and bibity bobbedy boo. That's twenty twenty four technology.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Frowitz, Here we are Hollywood. Have you play Hollywood?

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Speaker 3: Harper?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Have you open? Speaking of technology, have you opened

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Speaker 2: Mate? I haven't. Most people are clients people. Yes, I

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Speaker 3: Like if I get a bit of.

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Speaker 3: So but I've heard rave reviews.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. It's probably not the chat we're going

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Speaker 1: and you know, web stuff and just you know, and

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Speaker 1: of things, there are new jobs, Like who the fuck

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Speaker 1: knew that that podcasting could be a job or part

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Speaker 1: of a job. Who knew that? Fifteen years ago nobody

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Speaker 1: knew what one was? And here we are, fifteen hundred

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 1: What's I mean? But I guess the thing that doesn't

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Speaker 1: really change too much is humans and human behavior. And

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Speaker 1: you know, the peace and troughs of the human experience

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Speaker 2: Human, the human, the head, the human condition and all

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Speaker 2: nine if not one hundred percent of humans in dua,

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Speaker 2: I reckon you know what if I if we were

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Speaker 2: do it. There should be a semester on head noise, right,

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Speaker 2: No one at our high school. We never knew that

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Speaker 2: And you know, like self doubt, no self esteem, blah,

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Speaker 3: We never covered that off at bloody school.

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Speaker 2: That would have been handy because it's non do later

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Speaker 2: And it's Middle Earth, as I call it. You're down

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Speaker 3: I've just dropping the micro.

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Speaker 2: Right there, ladies and gentlemen, Happy and bloody Thursday. I've

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Speaker 2: missed you too long, absolutely, you know, and I know

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's a gift that keeps on giving the silver Fox,

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Speaker 2: and he's changed the glasses in the meantime as well.

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Speaker 3: This guy's quadruple tasking.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going bored anytime soon. My old man's eight

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Speaker 3: But I remember those days when I was eighteen, you know.

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Speaker 2: It's yeah, no, I definitely maybe quite a bit of

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Speaker 1: But well, there is there is a relationship between yeah,

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Speaker 2: Some of those performance enhancing supplements I may or may

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Speaker 2: realize it because when you're in there, you kind of

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Speaker 2: And you know those strategies, business, life, sports, health, mental health, happiness,

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Speaker 2: at it? And it's just absolute truth, mate, And we

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Speaker 2: that point because you're in your head, you're worried what

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Speaker 3: You can't not breathe into your belly.

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Speaker 2: And based you know what the thoracic spine is doing

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Speaker 2: He's boon on a farm and he's firing up the

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Speaker 2: old sports science degree. But I like to surprise you

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Speaker 2: at times, Craig Anthony, having known it as long as

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Speaker 2: I have it, but.

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Speaker 2: We resist it all day unknowingly, and then that has

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Speaker 2: you know, and all this you just activate your glutes

433
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 2: and your hammies and all these things happen when you

434
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: actually let go against gravity and stop resisting it.

435
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 3: So, yeah, it gets you into much better alignment.

436
00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 1: Could I ask you look thick at the moment, And

437
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: by thick, I mean like you've put on some muscle,

438
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: Like you look larger than last time I.

439
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 2: Saw you a gym.

440
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: Oh so you so you're back in the.

441
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 2: Well. If this was a month ago, I'd say, mate,

442
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 2: I joined a gym, and I joined it a month ago,

443
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 2: and I've been twice, but now I've up it a

444
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 2: bit since then. But may two times a week or

445
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 2: something I get in there.

446
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 3: Just yeah, you're just up the road.

447
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: You also look like you've got a tear in the

448
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 1: top of your bicep.

449
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 3: Is that right correct? Yes, how'd you do that?

450
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 2: Bodybuilding? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, bodybuilding, Yeah yeah, in both Lucky

451
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: there's two tendons there a on the one of them

452
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 2: the heavy lifting.

453
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: Lucky it's a bicep and not a un sep.

454
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 3: Yeah that's right.

455
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. So powers of observation serve your world of

456
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 2: quote over one I believe it was back in the day.

457
00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 4: But what opened what opened the door on this new

458
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 4: found or resurgence in terms of your your postural stuff

459
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 4: and your physiological performance stuff.

460
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: So for those who don't know Jeff, his background is

461
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: in sports science. He he along with Simo, created Vision

462
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 1: Personal Training, biggest PT franchise in Australia. Still Simo is

463
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: still he's got more money than God. You're still killing it.

464
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Jeff and I are saving up for fucking

465
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: rice and Simmo is just rolling around in his Bentley.

466
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: You've got plenty of hals.

467
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 2: Don't play it down.

468
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 3: You're going good. But carry it.

469
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: Be ridiculous, don't be ridiculous. And but yeah you but

470
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: and you built you know, body trim and but you

471
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: lived in the physical space, working with bodies and the

472
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: people who inhabited them for a long time. But and

473
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: it's not like you turned your back on that, but

474
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: you've been doing other things for a while. What dragged

475
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: you back into that space?

476
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 2: Well, good question, mate. I think it started, well, a

477
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: couple of things out here in the boondocks. I I

478
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 2: thought about the golf swing for a while I played

479
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 2: all my life, and and also horse riding, and just

480
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 2: that all the stuff around the golf swing and riding

481
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 2: horses that just didn't line up for me, just the people.

482
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: It was very ambiguous and or I just wasn't adding up.

483
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: And then I started this play around with a few

484
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 2: different things on horses, hitting golf balls, and I started

485
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 2: and just understanding, you know, how the body sort of moved,

486
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 2: and realizing that some people have a lazy posture and

487
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: what have you in sports and others don't. But the

488
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: thing is, if you don't, you only know what you

489
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 2: have and you're not. People generally don't see that others

490
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: are not posturally the same or engaged as much or

491
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 2: as little. But I realized that the body, the biomechanics

492
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 2: of the body it were profoundly differently based on your

493
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: postural level of engagement. So the momentum forces of the

494
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: club head worked differently. How the horse moves you is

495
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 2: different based on how engaged and or tense verse relaxed

496
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: you are, so you know your center of mass is

497
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: higher or lower, your center of gravity, all these how

498
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: you use the ground over the golf board all different.

499
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 2: And then that I just sort of started to join

500
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: more and more dots. Teamed up with the made of

501
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: mine who's a golf pro, and he went, hang on.

502
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 2: Over time, we both realize that you know, everyone's guessing.

503
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: And now that we've started to join the dots, it's

504
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,719
Speaker 2: like throwing darts. It's exciting. Same with horses. Riding horses

505
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: are totally different, and how you recycle the energy of

506
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: the horse into your body into the horse. And because

507
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 2: I know another thing that stayed with me, I guess

508
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: nearly is sober gift of sobriety seven hundred and two.

509
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 2: Like I remember a lot of things that have said

510
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 2: to me and Glenn Boss, the jockeys are made of mine.

511
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: He won three Melbourne Cups, so I'm guessing he's got

512
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: a pretty good clue about horses. And he was chatting

513
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 2: with chat picking his brain one day and you know,

514
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: he said to me, he said Jeffrey. Just if anything

515
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: party is tense on a horse, just you know you're

516
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 2: going to bounce off.

517
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: And I bounced that off.

518
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 2: A lot of horsey people and they go, oh no,

519
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: that's not Oh no, I don't know about that, bla.

520
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 2: And over time I realized that, you know, there are

521
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: people riding in a different seat position based on this

522
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: posture thing, and one.

523
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: Way is really hard.

524
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: And it's a bit like if a if you're piggybacking

525
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 2: a little kid on your back and they're digging their

526
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 2: knees into you versus not right, that's what the horse

527
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 2: feels based on your posture. And it's been profound with

528
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 2: horses and the way that they respond and like really

529
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: it's the whole other world. And the same thing with golf,

530
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: and now I can do things with golf that I

531
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: couldn't before. But getting it that that didn't really get

532
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 2: me into the gym. I had a few niggles with

533
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: the shoulders and whatnot, and I thought, no, it's time

534
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 2: I've been taking the piss out of it for a while.

535
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 2: Up I went like, just to get rid of the

536
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 2: niggles and just you know, they're all good now, thankfully,

537
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: And yeah, joining the gym was more just just to

538
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 2: get myself, you know, physically sort of fit and strong,

539
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: you know, and get rid of the niggles. And then

540
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: when I actually started doing weights again, I actually, more

541
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: than ever in my life, realized just the the mental

542
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: health benefits and just the brain just comes to life

543
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: so quickly for me when I start lifting weights, you know,

544
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: one set and it's just like woosh, the lights are on.

545
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: We how good is this?

546
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: And I probably didn't fully appreciate that in my younger

547
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 2: years because I trained most every day. But then you

548
00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: stop and then you start your how wow, unbelievable? Like

549
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: that alone is just so critical. But I go in

550
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: there for like fifteen twenty minutes and I'm just doing

551
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: a thing and get out of there.

552
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 3: I'm not there.

553
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: I'm not running marathons and I rock up in Ara

554
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: and Williams or my gun boots and I'm not running

555
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: on the treadmill. Am I say, like I don't need

556
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: my runners or not that I got a pair, But

557
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: like I just get in there and do basic compound

558
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: lifts and blah blah blah, it's great, Like I enjoy

559
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: it for that and well, actually I don't know if

560
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: I super love it because I did it for eight

561
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: million years, whereas as a young bloke at the local

562
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: gym and he's sort of you know, young fella trying

563
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: to put on some weight and you know, blah blah blah,

564
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: and you know, I just loves it. And they're like, man,

565
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: you're going to get right right into it, like what's

566
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 2: happening now. But I'm like, mate, I'm just just chip

567
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: away like it does. It's it's different when.

568
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: You did it thirty or for thirty.

569
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: Years, and I just recognize the importance and the benefit

570
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: of it. But I kind of like the life activities horses,

571
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: golf and those things a bit more in terms of

572
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: mental stings. But for the for the you know, physiological health,

573
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: mental health, like all those benefits are just realizing more

574
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: than I ever did.

575
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yeah as you get older, especially I mean

576
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 1: I'm a lot older than you. But I think apart

577
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: from all the other things that people you know could do,

578
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: Suck in some oxygen, get your heart rate up, do

579
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: some cardio, do a bit of stretching, you know, get

580
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: your feet in dirt, get your feet in sand, if

581
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,479
Speaker 1: you can be in nature, hugger tree, all that stuff,

582
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: which is all important and I do all of that too.

583
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: It's like there is something unique about strength training that well,

584
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: we know that it's cognitively it's cognitively enhancing. It's cognitive enhancer.

585
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: It produces dopamine, makes you feel good, you know, muscle mass, posture,

586
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: bone density. Not so sure about the posture after today's chat.

587
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: But I mean there's a multi there's a multitude of benefits.

588
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: But as you said, and this is what people don't get, right,

589
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: you could literally the average punter if the average person

590
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: who never lifts weights went to a gym two times

591
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: a week, now here's the caveat and trained effectively, right,

592
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: not just fucking around thirty minutes. But if the average

593
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: punter went to maybe three times a week for thirty minutes,

594
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: and those thirty minutes were really productive and specific to

595
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: the needs and the physiology of the individual, that one

596
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: hour or ninety minutes a week is one of the

597
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: greatest investments of all time because you know, and I

598
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: know you don't need to. One of the best bodybuilders

599
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: of all time Dorian right Yates, Remember Dorian back in

600
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: the day.

601
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: Well bloody, it's one of the cracking videos.

602
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dorian was in and out of the gym in

603
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: thirty forty minutes and trained four days a week when

604
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: he was mister Olympia, and every other dickhead, every other

605
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: dickhead was doing five hours in the gym seven days

606
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: a week and Dorian's like in there for forty minutes

607
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: and he's having three days a week off. And of

608
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: course yeah, there's a few supplements along the way, but

609
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: his actual training regime was like really unconventional compared to

610
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: the masses and got amazing results.

611
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: But as you will know, you know, super compensation I

612
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: think they call it, and what have you. And you

613
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: know you're trying to you know, micro tears in the

614
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: muscle so that it's stimulated and forced to grow and

615
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: what have you. And if you have a train it

616
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: that can't happen. And that's why a lot of the

617
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: young blokes especially want the big Warwick farms and their

618
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: training every day going backwards. They can't open up can

619
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: of bloody beans, right, So it's it's like it's counterintuity, paradoxical.

620
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,959
Speaker 2: But to get good gains, you've just got to you know,

621
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: hear the muscle on a micro level, and you know,

622
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: super compensate, and there's your hypertrophy if you eat and

623
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: eat the right foods, calories, get enough sleep. So it's

624
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: critical obviously for hypertrophy and getting enough the right macros

625
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: and whatnot. In the way you go like it's it's

626
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: it's not volume at all. Yates was all over it,

627
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: and you know, it's just that we love training so

628
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: much that we love the feeling and then we can

629
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: generally overtrain for optimal hyperchashy. Especially fat loss is obviously different,

630
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 2: but muscle hyperchasey calorie surplus critical. So yeah, that's that's

631
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: very interesting. The thing I was going to say as

632
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: well with the posture, which again I think when you

633
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 2: have got a muscular developed physke, you can't have bad

634
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: posture if you try. I think half the reason people

635
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: have got bad posture is they've got a no muscle development, right,

636
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: so all the stuff I'm talking about my body works

637
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: better on this, but I'm fairly muscularly developed, if you will,

638
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: and like my posture is good, I don't need to

639
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: overcook it. So I think sometimes a lot of the

640
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: stuff I've thought this as well with posture is that

641
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: it's more the reality is that you know, there's just

642
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: not enough muscle on the bones to hold people in

643
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: the right position.

644
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 3: Right.

645
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 2: So I've got a thing everyone knows, Tiger Woods and

646
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 2: the golfer. And there's a picture of him. I took

647
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 2: the picture, but he has when he was in nineteen

648
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 2: ninety seven. He hits a shot, but it's a hole

649
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: in one. It goes in the bloody hole. This is

650
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 2: whatever tournament it was. And his posture over the golf ball,

651
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: he's a lot more. He lets go more against gravity.

652
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: He can see the subtle curvature in his thoracic spine

653
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: versus what most people do today.

654
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: And a lot of the top top world.

655
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: Champion golfers were like this when they were younger, and

656
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: they were corrected by inverted commas the best coaches, and

657
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 2: I believe to their detriment both in performance and injury

658
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 2: prevention and what have you, due to the sort of

659
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: stress on the lower back. And that's a classic example

660
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: of a bloke who that shot, that particular shot went

661
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: in the hole. One bounce in the hole. But it

662
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 2: was once you see it, you can't undersee it because

663
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: it just peaks you over the ball better and you

664
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: can press squash the ball better, and you stay out

665
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: all these things and you lower back doesn't hurt. And

666
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: it's all these things that I've sort of worked out

667
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 2: and looking at other top. You know, Rory mclroy Adams

668
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 2: got all these players who were great world champions but

669
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: were arguably better when they were seventeen before they were

670
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 2: changed in so many ways, and it's almost manufactured again

671
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 2: through what sports science seemed to be correct. But you know,

672
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: it's really interesting, mate, it's a whole other world. But

673
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 2: the posture thing, I'm fascinated as well. We'd like the

674
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: neuroscience and what you do and anxiety. Everyone's got anxiety

675
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: and stress. But if you're breathing into your chest all

676
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: the time, shallow chest, breathing upright, bolt upright, tall, well

677
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: you can't not have anxiety stress. So yeah, combine that

678
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: within your head thinking about what might happen, you're gone

679
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 2: like it's horrible.

680
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: Well, you know what's funny as you were talking about,

681
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: you know the way that people get trained to you know,

682
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: however you're standing, it's wrong, stand like that, don't sit

683
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: like that right and look sometimes that is true, sometimes

684
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 1: that is accurate, you know. But I was thinking about

685
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: the amount of people in the gym who have what

686
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: we colloquially call tennis elbow or what we more accurately

687
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: know as lateral epicond. The lightis but basically inflammation in

688
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: the outside of your elbow golfer's elbow side media epicond.

689
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: The lightis blah blah blah. Right, But I was thinking

690
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: about Tiff, who does some who works with me on

691
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: this show. She's She was telling me the other day about,

692
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: you know, this pain she's got outside of her elbow,

693
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: which we would call tennis elbow, and I said, when

694
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: does it hurt? And she goes, when I do curls right,

695
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: And I said, well, think about this, like when you

696
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: stand up, like if everyone just stood up now, if

697
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: you can stand up, just stand up and just relax

698
00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: and see where your hands are.

699
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: Now.

700
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: Where your hands are is usually with the palms facing

701
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: either your hips or the back, you know, like your

702
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: palms aren't forward right, So in order to get your

703
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm standing up now, but in order to get your

704
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: palms here, you've literally got to like rotate your forearms.

705
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: And so we're now standing in an unnatural position. And

706
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: then we put sixty pounds or whatever in our hands

707
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: and then we do this movement up this elbow flexion

708
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: and elbow extension, and we go to the bottom of

709
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: this movement. Now we're standing with our palms facing forward,

710
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: which we never do. And now not only are we

711
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 1: doing this weird movement, we've got that underload, right, which

712
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: is why, you know, and there are so many things

713
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: that we do in the gym that are not normal

714
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 1: day to day movements, or we're not in the normal

715
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: plane of movement, or we're not how our we're externally

716
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: or internally rotated in a weird way, and then we

717
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: loaded up with weights. So then the easy fix for

718
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: that is do hammer curls or do curls with your

719
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: palms facing your midline, you know, is facing your spine,

720
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: so instead of curling like that and you can see

721
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,479
Speaker 1: we're curling like that as you know, right. But there's

722
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: there are a lot of things that are that are

723
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: taught in gyms, and I guess involf and horse riding

724
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: that actually absolutely under scrutiny. Don't stand up.

725
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: That's a very good point, and that's what I've been

726
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: working on in the golf space especially, and with it,

727
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: I'm lucky I've played a lot of junior golf and

728
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: was played on my life and one of my junior

729
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: golf buddies golf pro at my club. Actually it turns

730
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: out and really humble guy and sort of not full

731
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 2: of ego and like, oh no, that's wrong, blah blah.

732
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 2: But funnily enough, did like four unit maths and quite

733
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: intellectually bright, so he understands physics and things. So it's

734
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 2: fascinated him and work out a few bits and pieces

735
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: and just looking at it in terms of more physics

736
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: gravity momentum forces than are a mass instead of just

737
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: what everyone does. Yeah, one hundred thousand lemons can't be

738
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: wrong because and getting back to the point of what

739
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: got me onto this you're gonna laugh. I think you

740
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 2: might bust a riby on this one, so you know,

741
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 2: just giving you some.

742
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: Let me put let me type up this tape up.

743
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: Please, but like, okay, no offense to all the golfers.

744
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,959
Speaker 2: But here's the reality, right, The golf ball doesn't fucking move.

745
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: It's on the ground and it's stationary. We're not hitting

746
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: baseballs at one hundred miles an hour. It's not cricket

747
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: with glenmorgrab banging them down a warning God rest he solid,

748
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: he's primate and bloody, all sorts of crazy balls that

749
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 2: he used to write. The ball doesn't move, but everyone's shit.

750
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: My brain cannot let that go. The ball doesn't move,

751
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: gravity doesn't change, right, the club is the same weight

752
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: and length, and your body doesn't change all of There

753
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 2: are no external variables, so it's you can understand the

754
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 2: variables the swing coade if you will, of your body

755
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 2: because the flipping ball's not moving. You can't. You should

756
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: not be that shit. So about four years ago and

757
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: go to any driving range. I won't even say what

758
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: they say because you know, too many beeps, but like

759
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 2: it is, just blokes are just headless of themselves that

760
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: they just can't hit it and they just blow up

761
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: and they're just filthy on themselves. And it should the

762
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: thing that you know, I just couldn't put down, was it.

763
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: It shouldn't be that hard because the thing's not moving now,

764
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: so that you don't need brilliant hand like coordination because

765
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: you're not hitting a moving target. And here's another little

766
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: I know was sort of into the sports science performance

767
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 2: world today, but we've done a million on other.

768
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Speaker 3: Things, so it's probably good to have a little pivot anyway,

769
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 3: Prague Anthony.

770
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: But what I here's another thing I remember. I remember

771
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: going on dates and whatnot back in my early late

772
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: teens early twenties, like tenpin bowling. I was the shittest

773
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: tenpin bowl the world's ever seen. Like, you can't if

774
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,959
Speaker 2: you think you're shit listening to this, you're not shit.

775
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 3: I was that shit, right, just shit harder. I tried

776
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 3: the worse.

777
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: I was like, you need the bumpers up everything for me,

778
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: and I still might hag it down another few hours.

779
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 2: Like I was just shitouse And so there was that

780
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 2: factor and darts, free throws shit. Then I thought, hang on, okay,

781
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: what if this posture I'm talking.

782
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 3: About, you know you've got if you look at.

783
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 2: Like I can remember distinctly people, you know, lazy type

784
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: people who were just weapons at tenpin bowling, darts, these

785
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: sorts of things because they've dropped the center of mass.

786
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: It's this posture I'm talking about, and I believe it

787
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: enhances the hand eye piece or just your body awareness,

788
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: the whole biomechanics. The feel is different in this postural

789
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 2: engagement piece. So the yeah, the like for me, tenpin

790
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: bowling darts three throws horribly shit, right, And I think

791
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 2: there's a whole heap of merit in that, and people

792
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: who are listening to these you might think, shit, my mate, Barry,

793
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: Barry's never been to the gymmy as twenty schooners a night.

794
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: The blokes could be professional dark player. He's carrying probably

795
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: thirty or forty kegs extra and the bloke's an absolute

796
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: weapon at darts, tempin, bowling, whatever, because of this posture

797
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: that this person's got because they're just a bit lazy, right,

798
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: But then we overcook the posture, we overcooked the tension,

799
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: and we don't have that what inverted Comma's natural ability?

800
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: And that leads me to another point around we think

801
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: people have got these natural gifts and ability. What if

802
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: they just got lucky with the posture that they adopted,

803
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: which lended itself more to the sport that they chose.

804
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: And I believe that's a lot more of the case

805
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: than people being naturally gifted, especially with a non moving target,

806
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 2: for God's sake, and watching major tournaments and the best

807
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: golfers in the world. A road hooking at left off

808
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: the first t to the point that I googled the

809
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: golf course to see if there was an ocean on

810
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 2: the right. Because I'm thinking, these are the best golfers

811
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: in the world, and this now booking it off the

812
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: first like this is not that doesn't add up to me.

813
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: My brain's like, hang on, this isn't like the local

814
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: club champs. But these are the best golfers in the

815
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 2: world and they're almost putting it out of bounds off

816
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: te box one. So again, and then by that point

817
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: I'd worked out things about the posture. So mate, welcome

818
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: to my mind.

819
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 3: Harps. Have you have you.

820
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: Ever heard have you ever heard of a guy called

821
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: Luke Littler l I double T L E R. No,

822
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: you're not near a computer.

823
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 3: You only have your phone, right, Yeah, but I will

824
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: google him later.

825
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. So Luke Littler, God bless him is. He is

826
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: an absolute phenom in darts. Now, if you look at Luke,

827
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: Luke looks like, and I mean this with respect, like

828
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: he's a big boy. He does not look like by

829
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: the way, he's fucking brilliant. Right. He started winning like

830
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: big titles when he was sick. He's seventeen years old.

831
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: Now he's a big boy. We would say he's not

832
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: fit he probably doesn't have a great diet, and he

833
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 1: just does not look like an athlete at all. But darts,

834
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 1: of course, incredible hand eye coordinations, skill, dexterity, balanced timing,

835
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: fucking eyes whatever I mean it is. I wouldn't call

836
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: it athletic, but it's definitely yeah.

837
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a game of skill. It requires precision repetition, yes.

838
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: One hundred. And he's amazing. He's amazing, and it kind

839
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: of supports your theory, you know, whereas he does not

840
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: at all look like an athlete. He looked by the way,

841
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: it looks like he's thirty years old. He's got stubble.

842
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 2: But what you touched on there is exactly what I'm

843
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: I absolutely believe. I'm glad we actually somehow came onto

844
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: this topic today because we were talking. You mentioned that

845
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: post about anxiety, which I'm glad you did because that

846
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: was the starting point regarding parasympathetic belly breathing diaphragmatic which

847
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: is optimized and you know that it forces you to

848
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: do that when you let go against gravity and the

849
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: sternam drops. But that also helps neurologically physiologically with anxiety,

850
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 2: stress and whatnot, but also sports performance and these types

851
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 2: of people. I've got a client of mine, right, he's

852
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: commercial real estate. He's not a bloody professional athlete. But

853
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: he started playing just like basketball Monday nights, and you know,

854
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: sometimes we had about all sorts of things, and I

855
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: told him to try this, mate, he might be I

856
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: don't think he's missed a free throw in competition since

857
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: once he just did what we're talking about here. He goes,

858
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: you dead set onto something here like this is like

859
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: it changes the mechanics. If you will, your center of

860
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 2: mass drops, You've got more feel. I think what it does,

861
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: he says, that isolates the variables, like there's not as

862
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 2: many moves in parts when you're up taller, sorry, when

863
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: you dropped down and it's just sort of the arm

864
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: piece and it's not everything. Sort of you're more dynamically

865
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 2: stable when you've dropped. And Paul Batman album mate dot

866
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 2: PhD in exercise science, I running through all this and

867
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: he's like, mate, I think you're actually right. I think

868
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: we overcooked it. I think with all this stuff you

869
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: know in sports science. And we chat away a bit

870
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: and he said, you know what with obviously Daniel's son

871
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 2: tragically passed away, but Daniel was an Olympic. He went

872
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 2: to the Olympics for Australia, one of the best four

873
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: hundred meter runners.

874
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 3: Australia's ever had.

875
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: And Paul said to me, he said, you know what,

876
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 2: with sprinting, they actually teach you to get down low,

877
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 2: like you drop your Sternham. And I was never, ladies

878
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 2: and gentlemen that good at sprinting, rest assured, but I

879
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 2: have had a few cracks out at doing this. Then

880
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: tell you what there might have to be a comeback to,

881
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: because I'm lightning, absolutely lightning. You use the ground more,

882
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 2: you agree with the action forces are massively enhanced, and

883
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 2: you just push the gluts everything.

884
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: So well, if you see, if you see, you sayin

885
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: bolt over the first forty meters he's looking at the ground, Yes, yeah, yeah,

886
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: he's literally in significant you know, pelvic flexion. Yes, and

887
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: he's hunched over. He starts to stand more upright, and

888
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: I mean maybe it's not forty meters, but it's definitely

889
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: twenty or thirty meters. Well, he's hunched over, he's running

890
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: in yes, almost a prone position.

891
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, perhaps it's really I'm so glad we

892
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: touched on this.

893
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 3: I'd love to unpack.

894
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 2: It, you know, in future you know episodes if people

895
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: are interested, because I think there's a big like a

896
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 2: few things have been missed, you know, by you know,

897
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: when we're the most guilty is judge, we've got the

898
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: bloody degrees, like and it's just really looking at where

899
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: things you know, originated from and what. And I think

900
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 2: a lot of this with posture is everybody knows if

901
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: you don't round your back when you pick something up,

902
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: because you'll hurt. You're like, you know, all that got it,

903
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 2: But then we took it too far the other way.

904
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: We hollowed the shit out of it, and we were

905
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: bolt upright right, so you split the difference. And the

906
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 2: spine is a wonderful thing, Like it's like a snake.

907
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: And also because of the way the human spine is,

908
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: you know, it's actually can be put into so many

909
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: different subtle variations that under clothes and different body composition

910
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: and aesthetics is very hard to detect, especially up in

911
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: the thoracic and you know, but with the breathing for me,

912
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 2: like it's a game changer because when you're up in

913
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: your chest you can get really rattled and anxious and

914
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 2: when you're in your belly, you're good as gold, and

915
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: that obviously affects sports, but just mental well being for

916
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: God's sake, to get rid of the bloody anxiety that

917
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: plagues everyone.

918
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, I was just thinking then when

919
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: you're talking about picking something up off the floor, right,

920
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, you know, activate your TVA transverse subdominance,

921
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: like into it. Like it's almost like you get into

922
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: this weird position that you're never in right now. While

923
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: you're in that weird position that's not usual or normal

924
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: for you pick some shit up. It's like, you know,

925
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: and I mean, of course, like activating your core and

926
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: all of that. Of course not a bad thing, of course,

927
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think it is. It is funny that

928
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff, especially in in exercise science

929
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 1: that like you and I, you and I both got

930
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: taught at some stage, well I did, I'm sure you did,

931
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: and a lot of our listeners are. Okay, So power

932
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 1: is two to four reps. Strength is four to eight reps,

933
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: eight to fifteen reps. Anything above fifteen reps is muscular

934
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: endurance and what a lot of fucking bullshit, Like think

935
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: about Olympic cyclists who do thousands of fucking reps and

936
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: they've got the biggest quads in the world, you know

937
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: what I mean, thousands of thousands of reps of the

938
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,959
Speaker 1: same way. Think about Olympic swimmers who are just doing

939
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: basically the same movement countless times with the same body

940
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: and the same resistance through the water depending on how

941
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: fast they're going or what stroke they're doing, But who

942
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: have got these giant fucking shoulders and backs. You know,

943
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: Like there's so much that is held as kind of gospel.

944
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 3: I'm scientific in stone.

945
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's like it's complete bullshit.

946
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: You one more thing I want you to sorry interrupt,

947
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 2: I get excited.

948
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: I'm ready, I'm ready. One more.

949
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: One more thing, Like next, I know you're a deadlifting

950
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 2: spleened at your local Jimmy. Like, so next time you're deadlifting,

951
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 2: probably in the.

952
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 3: Night, you'll be there. You love it.

953
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: But next time you're deadlifting, right, try this because now

954
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 2: once you're aware of it, you have these profound realizations.

955
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 2: You go to deadlift. Everyone talks about core and core

956
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: engagement and activation. I'm certain it's involuntary when the posture

957
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 2: is correct. It's not in a girl quantum physics string

958
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: theory folks all, but that it's been turned into that

959
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: for fox's sake. Same with the bloody Gulf swing, Like

960
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 2: everyone's treating the effects during the swing, which is mission

961
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 2: impossible dot com versus like getting it right with posturally

962
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 2: and the pressure and then it's automatic. So but with

963
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 2: a dead lift, when you go, when you like getting

964
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 2: up off the bed, when you go to actually lift

965
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 2: the weight, you get down to the bar, you go

966
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: to lift that up, you have this little inhale the

967
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 2: balloon core infra adominal pressure and your core goes, it engages,

968
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: but you're not flexing your core. It's intra abdominal internal

969
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: pressure that the muscles can then brace against versus an

970
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: empty void and just a telegraph pole and then but

971
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: that's what we do when we're deadlift. We're not excessively

972
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 2: hollowing our lumber back to our detriment because the erect

973
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 2: of spine muscles are like not taking a knife to

974
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 2: a gunfight. No, it's that pressure in torso box trunk

975
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 2: up with obviously the lumber spine that spinal erectors, but

976
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 2: the intra abdominal pressure is so big that's what we do.

977
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: But we don't realize it now me back as a

978
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 2: personal trainer. Oh, it's distinctly remembered tea teaching the squat, right,

979
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 2: this is it's not funny, but it was so wrong

980
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: when I look back to it. It's not funny, but

981
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 2: it just wasn't what I thought I was doing. So

982
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: someone you're teach him how to squat rite chest out,

983
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: shoulders back, you know, chest out. I used to say

984
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: chest out, bum out, comming in, chest out, bumm out, tummy,

985
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: and that was Ouzzie Jeff. I still remember it. Chest out,

986
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 2: bumming out coming in my flip and tummy is not

987
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 2: in when I'm doing a heavy squad, like my guts

988
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: press out. I'm not not. You get under any proper weight,

989
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: you are not sucking your navel in. You do, you'll

990
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: absolutely you'll be straight to the hospital. But we don't.

991
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 2: For whatever reason, we don't. We don't. We didn't realize that,

992
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 2: Like you might be about to squat. Tommy's in here

993
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 2: sort of prepping to do it. As soon as you

994
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: take the weight off the rack, the guts are pressed

995
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 2: out and the core is rock solid, like someone could

996
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 2: punch you in the guts. It it's like you're bracing

997
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 2: for a stomach punch. That's how your squat. Your navel's

998
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 2: not drawn in. But yet, for whatever reason, that was

999
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 2: what we sort of told people, and those that are

1000
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 2: like I don't understand. Well, now bloody well know why

1001
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 2: because I was never doing that. I might have just

1002
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 2: been doing it esthetically prior to because once there's a weight,

1003
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: we have to do that.

1004
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: Mm well, think about the biggest squatters in the world.

1005
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: They all have those. Firstly, they have those big fat

1006
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: white belts. Yeah, their gut is literally pushed against that. Yeah. Mate,

1007
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: we're going to wind up. But I'm looking at your

1008
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: Instagram right now. You've got zero followers and you don't

1009
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: even follow me. That's very hurtful. So you better jump

1010
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 1: on have.

1011
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 3: One next time, Greg Anthony Hamper.

1012
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: Next time you'll have one, Hey, buddy, Speaking of Instagram,

1013
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: So Jeff's Insta is just ge f F Jeff Jowett

1014
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: all one word, two teas on jouet Jeff Jowett. You

1015
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: can follow him on install Where else can people connect

1016
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: with you?

1017
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 2: Grace, that'd be it harps. I keep it real simple,

1018
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 2: ha ha.

1019
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So if people want to message you know, I

1020
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: know you're a fucking hermit and you hate people, which getting.

1021
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 2: Out there made I'm really introducing myself to sort of society.

1022
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 2: And I'm out there at the gym and I'm getting

1023
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 2: out and about and go for this and that. So

1024
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 2: I wouldn't call myself a social butterfly opening of an

1025
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: envelope like I was back in the day when you

1026
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 2: came down to visit at Body trim mate. But I'm

1027
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: crawling out of the cave and you know, reassimilating. It's good.

1028
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: I remember you'd taken me out for lunch with I

1029
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: think two other blokes that I didn't know, and this

1030
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: would have been fifteen years ago, and I was, you know,

1031
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: full eating disorder mode. I think I had two lettuce

1032
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: leaves and a third of a chicken breast and three

1033
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: cups of air and you and your mates had million dollars.

1034
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 2: A line and about Bloody the slow cook lambs at

1035
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 2: the Athenian Greek restaurant there on Barricks Street.

1036
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, correct, And I'm pretty sure lunch was too grand.

1037
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: And I like, who is this person? What is this

1038
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: You are such a different person to that person.

1039
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 2: But I think that that's a big part of like

1040
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: It wasn't like I poked around it that life like

1041
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 2: I you know, I did it and it was wonderful,

1042
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 2: and you know, it's sort of like it's an adventure

1043
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 2: life and like you know, so I don't. They were

1044
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 2: great times and all the great meals and whatnot, but

1045
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 2: like you know, at this point in my life, I'm

1046
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: just's nice to keep it simple. But yeah, times change

1047
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: and what have you.

1048
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: Well, mate, I appreciate you. It's good to catch up.

1049
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 1: We'll say goodbye affair, but for the minute, Thanks again, buddy.

1050
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: Appreciate you.

1051
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 3: Always a pleasure, never a chore for you. Harps