WEBVTT - Sharri | 25 June 0:00:01.600 --> 0:00:05.600 Live on Sky News is Sharry. 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:08.200 Good Evening Tonight. 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:11.680 Donald Trump lands at NATO, says he's proud of Israel, 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:14.840 and lashes out at CNN and The New York Times 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:19.840 for claims the nuclear sites weren't obliterated. A B two 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:22.360 stealth bomber pilot will be live on the show to 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:26.000 give his take on all of this. Leaked recordings of 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:29.800 Mossad agents telling Iranian generals they had just hours to 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:34.320 flee the calls designed to destabilize the regime. Well Tonight, 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:37.479 a long term Mossad division head will join us on 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:38.159 the show for. 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:39.280 An exclusive interview. 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:43.080 I said today Susan Lee calls for more women in 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:47.080 politics despite reducing the number of women in shadow cabinet 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:49.040 in her first move as. 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:49.680 A liberal leader. 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:53.159 I'll speak about this with Brahmin Bishop and Graham Richardson 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:57.920 a bit later. Plus reporter Caroline Marcus harassed by pro 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:02.680 Palestinian activists while trying to cover the Low Tooth case. 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:05.119 People. 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.440 More on that disgusting behavior later. 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:14.360 But there's so much to speak about tonight, from Trump's 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:19.000 epic spray to Iran's cruel execution of those it claims 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:23.080 are Israeli spies. Now, just as the President was looking calm, 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:28.959 rational presidential making decisions thoughtfully and in a considered way, 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:32.320 he undoes it all with a foul mouthed ti rate. 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:35.640 He could have picked up the phone to Israeli Prime 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:40.240 Minister Benjamin Nettanyahu last night and urged him not to 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:44.480 resume the military campaign against Iran, to stick with the ceasefire. 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:48.960 He could have had a rational conversation, but instead he 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:53.400 criticized one of his closest allies in front of the world. 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:57.480 There was one rocket that I guess was fired overboard. 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:59.320 It was after the. 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:03.720 Time limit and admits it's target, and now Israel's going up. 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:06.240 These guys got to calm down ridiculously. 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:11.480 The Wall Street Journal editorial board summed up this bizarre 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:18.040 statement perfectly, writing, Israel and Iran exchanged serious fire in 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:22.200 the hours before the ceasefire, as is common, but Iran 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:26.880 fired three missiles after the truce went into effect in 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:32.160 response miss The Trump unloaded his anger on Israel. 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:35.359 For planning to retaliate, and. 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:38.640 The piece went on to explain what many guests on 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:39.840 this program did. 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:42.639 Last night, that it's about deterrence. 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:46.440 If there's a ceasefire, it has to be abided by 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:51.799 these terrorist regimes, whether it's Iran or Hesbalah or Hamasid's 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:55.880 terror proxies, they need to know they can't fire missiles 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.720 into suburban areas. 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.480 Into homes whenever they like. 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.720 But the part of Trump Spray that's had the world 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:08.959 in a spin is this explosive sentence. In it, Trump 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:14.640 drew an unwarranted equivalence between Israel and Iran, alluding to 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:16.760 the forever war narrative. 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:21.240 We basically have two countries that have been fighting so 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.720 long and so hard that they don't know what they're 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:26.639 doing now. 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.440 The Wall Street Journal again put it perfectly when its 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:33.280 editorial board said, the president seem to treat Israel and 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:37.160 Iran as to equivalent threats to his diplomacy. Here's what 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:42.280 they're doing. Iran fights because it is devoted to Israel's destruction. 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:47.760 Israel fights because it is devoted to not being destroyed. 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:50.880 Couldn't be said better than that. 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.320 And Iran needs to now show that it is going 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:57.080 to give up its forever goal to destroy Israel. 0:03:57.640 --> 0:03:59.960 Unless it does this, there can be. 0:03:59.880 --> 0:04:04.080 No genuine ceasefire, no genuine peace, just a brief truce 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:08.360 until the Iranian regime finds another way to kill Israeli's 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:11.880 and westerners, and this should be a key feature of 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:16.279 the talks that America is urging Iran to resume, and 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:20.040 Trump should also insist on Iran providing access to the 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:25.440 International Atomic Energy Agency to inspect its nuclear sites. Now, 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:30.599 of course, Trump's unpresidential conduct and swearing made headlines the 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.840 world over, and the papers had some fun with the 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:39.080 dramatic events last night with a West Australian headline trump 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:43.120 drops f bomb and then also by Chris Doah in 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.760 the Nightly after Iran broke the ceasefire. 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:50.400 Iran can't handle the truce, but. 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:54.120 It does look like Trump's public threats to Israel worked. 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:58.920 It was diplomatic pressure taken to new and extreme levels 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:03.719 that I think are truly unbecoming the president. The President 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:07.839 shouldn't have treated Israel that way. It was disappointing behavior 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:11.480 from Trump, although there is still cause to be immensely 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:16.039 grateful for his military strike that made the world undoubtedly 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:20.200 a safer place, and so long as Israel has finished 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:23.120 the job, it's not a bad thing. Trump is imposing 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.000 the ceasefire, and he also has we have to keep 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:29.719 in mind a possible ulterior motive as well. 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.440 He wants to win the Nobel Peace Prize. 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:38.400 He probably doesn't have a chance, but he certainly doesn't 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.640 have a chance of Israel and Iran are still at war, 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:46.719 and just hours after Trump's vicious spray last night, Benjamin Ettaya, 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:51.280 who showed he is a true diplomat, remaining composed and 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.760 gracious even thanking Trump. 0:05:56.240 --> 0:06:01.840 Lam loyalil you did God Kamana Sitampa by Telivan Vanimodlomude 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:04.159 the Deef. 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.320 And Ndaya, who has said that the war goals in 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:11.719 Iran are complete Israel always expected them to take about 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:15.520 two weeks. But then today making major global news was 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:20.000 a leaked report by Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency. It's cast 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:24.839 doubt on whether the nuclear material has in fact been destroyed, 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:29.919 and this report claims that Iran's stockpile of enriched uranium 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:34.680 was probably moved to a secret site. Now the key 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:39.120 words there are probably moved, so it doesn't seem like 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:43.560 this agency knows for certain now. Nedajahu and Trump have 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:47.480 both rejected this claim, as has the United States Ambassador 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:51.960 to Israel, Steve Wikoff. He said he'd read the damage 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:55.320 assessment reports, not just from the American government, he said, 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.840 from multiple governments. 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:01.400 We put twelve bunker buster bombs and four do. There's 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.800 no doubt that it breached the canopy. There's no doubt 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:07.480 that it was well within reach of the depth that 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:10.600 these bunker buster bombs go to, and there's no doubt 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:14.440 that it was obliterated. So the reporting out there that 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:18.000 that that in some ways suggests that we did not 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:21.520 achieve the achieve the objective is just completely preposterous. 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:25.600 And Trump lashed out at the CNN and The New 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.480 York Times tonight at the NATO summit. This just in 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.880 the past couple of hours for publishing reports that the 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:35.800 sites hadn't been destroyed. He called them scum, and he 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:38.360 repeated that insults multiple times. 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:42.480 You had some great reporters, but you have scum. CNN 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:47.280 is scum, MSDS is scum. The New York Times is scum. 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:49.119 They're bad people, They're sick. 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:54.160 He also praised Israel for turning its planes around and 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:55.600 sticking with the ceasefire. 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:58.000 Israel came back instiday. 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.480 I'm so proud of them because they came back. 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:02.440 You know, they went out because they felt it was 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:05.960 a violation, and technically they were right. But it just 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:07.960 wouldn't have worked out very well. 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:10.520 And they brought the planes back. 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:14.960 And Trump said, if he hadn't sent in the B 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:18.480 two bombers with the bunker busting bombs, the war on 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:20.640 Iran would still be continuing. 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:24.880 But had we not succeeded with that hit, that hit 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:28.480 ended the war. That hit ended the war. 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:34.120 Now, apart from his fury towards the media, Trump seemed 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:38.400 a lot calmer today. He's obviously pleased the ceasefire has 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:42.040 held for the time being. But while Iran isn't firing 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:47.800 missiles at Israel, there are serious repercussions internally. It has 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:53.120 reportedly executed three people that it claims were Mossad spies 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.400 and moss Out, if you don't know, is the Israeli 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:59.840 intelligence agency. Iran claims the men smuggled in equipment that 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:05.440 we used to kill one Iranian by Israel, and these 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:09.080 three men were hanged. And this is the third set 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:12.920 of executions of people accused of being moss Had agents, 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:16.200 just in the past few days. And this is the 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:21.160 true nature of the Iranian regime. It's epitomized by cruelty, 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:29.319 theocratic tyranny, persecution, state sponsored violence, and brutality, and looking 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.320 back now after the past couple of weeks, we have 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:34.480 to say it is a great pity that this evil 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:43.440 regime survived the war. Now, the president of the United States, 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:47.080 as you know, has always loved social media, declaring to 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:51.160 the world what he's thinking or feeling about anyone or 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:57.000 any topic without any regard for the consequences. Diplomacy is 0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:00.920 a thing of the past for this current president. He 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.920 told the media when he spoke before flying to NATO 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:08.520 last night that he'd been up all night watching cable television. 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.640 And then you can see by the time that he 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:15.160 posts on truth social that he went on a posting 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:20.040 spree as well. He unleashed on AOC in one post, 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:24.120 calling her stupid and one of the dumbest. 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.600 People in Congress. No complaints there. 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:30.800 In another post, he complained in capital letters about the 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:34.760 fake new CNN and New York Times, which he said 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:36.160 teamed up to. 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.720 Demean his strikes on Iran. 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:44.520 Now, this is obviously highly amusing, highly entertaining, very unpresidential. 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:48.800 But then Trump posted a video that even for him, 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.880 is highly controversial. Now he's trying to get a Ran 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:56.280 to abide by a cease fire. He yelled at Israel 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.720 over this desperately wants Iran to abide by the ceasefire. 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:05.920 Yet at the same time he's posting this bomb. 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:18.720 Bomb my Ram, bom bom bom bom bomb, My Ram 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:24.920 got a big sem random bom bomb My ends. 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.040 I went to a mosque, throws some rocks. 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:30.119 Tell me I had told I gotta. 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:41.080 Got a B S B. 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:43.079 D. 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.600 Uncle Sam getting pretty hot. 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:58.160 And I ran until he's got a big S. 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.480 And that's, of course to the happy tune of the 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.880 Beach Boys Barbara An And did you hear that line 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:11.040 there was in the sub subtitles put the Ayatola in 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:15.160 a box. Well, let's hope that doesn't offend the Supreme 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:18.600 Leader Kimani to such an extent that he resumes his 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:27.120 campaign of terror against Israel. A big show ahead, Like 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:29.440 I said, one of Massad's head of divisions will be 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:32.760 on later plus a B two stealth bomber pilot to 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:36.560 tell us just whether he thinks those nuclear sites would 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.600 have been destroyed. But now let's bring in barrister and 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:44.320 UK lawyers for Israel Charitable Trust legal director Natasha Holstoff, 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:47.680 and she joins me live from London Natasha, great to 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:52.480 see you again. Now, Trump lashed out at Israel, not Iran, 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:57.760 Israel last night after the Islamic Republic breached the ceasefire. 0:12:58.400 --> 0:12:59.719 Was this misplaced? 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.959 Do you think surely Israel had every right to hit 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:04.560 back at Iran if it wanted to. 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.120 It certainly had every right to do so, And indeed, 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:12.240 from the outset here, israel strikes have been entirely lawful. 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.360 This is part and parcel of the ongoing armed conflict 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:20.320 between Israel and Iran. I'd be encouraged to take with 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.880 a pinch of salt what President Trump says over social media, 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:26.840 or indeed in clips of interviews that I think are 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.240 made perhaps more of by the media than they ought 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:34.120 to be. This is a man's actions. I would suggest 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:37.560 that perhaps speak louder than his words. But it is confusing, 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:42.520 especially in circumstances where the ceasefire was only broken by Iran, 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:46.720 and Israel's response, which had been promised to be significant, 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.920 appears to have been more muted than we might have expected. 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:55.040 Now, Trump also criticized Israel for going hard before the 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:59.319 ceasefire came into effect. But again, if Israel needed to 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:02.160 finish the in time to meete a ceasefire if it 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.559 still had targets military sides, nuclear sides. 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:07.120 Who knows that it needed to hit. 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.360 Then again, it had every right to do that before 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.920 the ceasefire started, don't you think in your legal. 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:17.319 Opinion that's correct? And I think it also had every 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:21.479 right to respond forcefully as it had promised to Iran's 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:25.320 breach of that ceasefire. And appreciate ceasefires in this region 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:29.440 frequently take a few attempts to come into place. I 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.600 mean since then, of course, we've seen relative quiet. I 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.720 believe there were a few drones, but from Iran it 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:37.960 may have been that they were just slow in reaching 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:42.160 Israel proper. The fact of the matter is, though that 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:48.640 Israel would be lawfully able to continue striking military targets 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:53.600 in Iran. It has done so, for example in Lebanon, 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:58.040 despite there being an existing SEASPI, because it has maintained 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:02.560 the ability and the right to act as and when 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:06.520 it sees threats materializing, even in the context of a ceasefire. 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:12.520 We're seeing moves by some Democrats, but also anti Trump 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:17.640 Republicans to call for Donald Trump to be impeached. Algreen 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.840 lost his bid to have Trump impeached over around nuclear strikes. 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:22.200 It was voted down. 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.600 By one hundred and twenty eight Democrats to seventy nine. 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:29.400 What are the legalities of this claim that Trump had 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:32.640 no right to make this decision on his own? 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:38.000 They don't appear to me to be any It's extraordinary 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:42.320 that one sees these party political claims being advanced. We 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:46.360 didn't see this, however, in relation to Trump's previous action 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:52.240 against al Bagdadi, against Sulimani, or indeed to Obama strikes 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:56.720 in Yemen in Syria. It's a very basic matter of 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:01.800 US constitutional structure that the president does not need to 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:05.280 seek permission from Congress in any of these respects. A 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.040 full declaration of war would be a different matter, but 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:11.640 of course that hasn't occurred as far as America's involvement 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:16.320 here has been concerned so far. So a strange attempt, 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.640 I think, born out of politics rather than a proper 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.880 application of US constitutional law here. 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:25.560 So what does this come down to? 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:29.160 So if it was a war, would he need to 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.120 get the approval of Congress? 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.760 Is that where the line. 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:37.640 Is for a formal declaration of law? Yes, that's my understanding. 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.280 I'm not a US lawyer, but I've spent a little 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:43.440 bit of time in the United States a national security 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:46.840 law context, so certainly that's my reading of it, and 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:50.600 from what I can see that's been endorsed by constitutional 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:54.840 lawyers and those that understand the process. I imagine it's 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:58.760 one of the reasons that this impeachment attempt wasn't successful. 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:03.360 But I think in contrast to previous actions, previous strikes 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:07.200 conducted by America under various presidents in the Middle East, 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:12.159 it is striking that these complaints would be raised in 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:16.640 this context, in the context of much needed strikes on 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:20.399 Iran's nuclear facilities, and strikes which I should stress have 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:23.320 made the region as well as the world a great 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:28.120 deal safer. All of these rhetorical flourishes of starting World 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:32.960 War III, frankly, are being proven to be ridiculous. Any 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:37.560 steps that minimize Iran's ability to continue to terrorize the 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:43.320 region and operate terrorist proxies around the world targeting Western interests, 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:46.600 and minimizing its ability to continue to do that in 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:50.320 the future under a nuclear umbrella ought to be celebrated 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.760 as bringing peace and stability to the world. 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:58.120 Just finally, Natasha, we're seeing that the US is trying 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:01.280 to encourage Iran now to engage in talks about its 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:06.040 nuclear program. It should allow the IAEA to have access 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:07.200 to its nuclear sites. 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:11.159 Would you be trusting around in this scenario. 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:15.879 Well, certainly not. Of course. This is a regime that 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:19.040 broke the cease fire within hours. It is a regime 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:22.680 that has consistently used previous agreements with the United States 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:27.560 and others to continue to advance covertly its nuclear ambitions. 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:31.439 The most important development over the last week is that 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:36.640 its nuclear program has been put back significantly. In that context, 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:41.960 those negotiations may of course continue, but its actions here 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:46.000 that I think again speak louder than words, and we're 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:49.280 never going to have a situation. Let me acknowledge that 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:52.600 there is a final nail in the coffin of Iran's 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:58.120 problematic ambitions as the Islamic republic that I'm talking about, 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:02.960 unless we see regime change coming from within, an opportunity 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:06.800 for the people to throw off this oppressive, tyrannical regime 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.399 that they have suffered under for some forty six years. 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.639 But for that sort of change in Iran, I'm afraid 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:16.800 all we can anticipate and hope for is a control 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:23.280 on its annihilation. Attempts on Israel and other Western interests. 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:27.960 But in that context, there has been significant advantage from 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:31.880 what's happened over the last week that can certainly lead 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:37.639 to more productive talks. But I wouldn't trust anything that 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.960 the Iranians commit to because there is a track record 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:45.320 here of them consistently lie. And this is a regime 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:50.440 that uses that sort of subterfuge and dishonesty to advance 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:55.000 its ambitions, in particular the death to Israel ambition. But 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:58.880 let's not forget death to America, includes death to the UK, 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:01.879 death to Australia. This is a regime that has pitted 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:06.760 itself against Western liberal democracies from its inception in nineteen 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:07.440 seventy nine. 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:12.040 Indeed, Natasha, really appreciate your time. Great to have you 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:15.080 on the show once again. Thank you so much. All Right, 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:18.080 let's bring in now Sky News contributor Kosher Gada, and 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:21.000 Kosher let's pick up on Donald Trump's spray last night, 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:25.040 his post on truth Social this unorthodox way of handling 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:29.639 foreign policy and was where he publicly criticizes an ally 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:32.080 one minute and then says he's proud of them the next, 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:36.560 swearing calling the media scum. What can we make of 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:41.360 this bizarre way of running the world. 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:45.040 You know, I think it's another illustration show I agreed 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.399 to be with you as always have. Let Trump be Trump. 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.040 That adage is something now that's been spoken so many 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:52.560 times over the past decade. I would piece a part 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:54.639 two or three things that are going on in there. 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:58.880 One is style stylistically, and profanity is something I don't 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:02.440 think he's done from the bullie pulpit as president before. 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:04.920 But in general, he plays fast and loose with rhetoric. 0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:09.280 He loves to be bombastic, whether it's calling North Korea's 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:12.760 leader Rocketman or the clips over here that he's retweeting. 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:15.439 He does that to some effect. It is controversial, but 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:17.840 by and large people have kind of gotten used to it. 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:20.600 A lot of people like it and think that it's effective. 0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:23.199 Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But in general that 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:26.719 is his way and it's part of his approach. Stylistically, 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:28.840 I think he likes to throw people off balance and 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:33.680 have a big stick rhetorically and keep people guessing essentially 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:35.520 in terms of the substance of what he said. So 0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:38.399 there's a couple of things there. One is attacking the media, 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:41.240 calling them scum, that's like a tried and tested strategy 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:43.480 for him. The media's trust is at an all time low. 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:46.480 He's very adversarial with them. His base hates the media 0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:48.800 and doesn't trust them, and that tends to actually play well. 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:51.520 He's also angry with the cleanup that he's having to do. 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:54.160 I think that was a communications misstep of not putting 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:56.360 the reports out there, and people are questioning how effective 0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:58.159 the bomb strikes were. And then the last bit is, 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:00.399 of course, the way he went after Israel. That is 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:02.960 unusual for a US president. But I think he's just 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:05.840 expressing his frustration and the fact that it's a layered 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:08.919 issue domestically and with his baes about whether or not 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:11.280 the US should have gotten involved or should continue to 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:13.240 get involved in that region, and he's just giving. 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:15.080 Voice to that indeed. 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:18.760 And also he'd promised it would be forever cease fire, 0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:21.000 and it didn't look like it was going to last 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:24.080 more than a few hours, although thankfully now it's been 0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:26.920 a bit of a calm day. Kosher in New York 0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:30.720 today there was a huge upset with TikTok influencer Zoran 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:33.520 mum Dani. Not sure if I'm saying his name correctly, 0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:37.159 ma'm dani beating former New York Governor Andrew Cmo in 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:41.240 the Democratic primary election for mayor. Now, this influencer is 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:47.119 an outspoken anti Zionist. He's refused to condemn calls to 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:50.159 globalize the enter faighter and here he was at a 0:22:50.200 --> 0:23:06.080 protest probably. 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:05.320 I mean kosher. 0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:07.800 This seems like a shocking result today and shurely people 0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:13.040 don't want this kind of behavior from their politicians, we. 0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:15.720 Would hope, and yet the result tells us otherwise. This 0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:18.080 one shar really pains me as a longtime New Yorker. 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:20.639 One of the greatest cities in the world. It's the 0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:23.800 epicenter of the Western Hemisphere and one of the most 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:26.320 important cities, and he looks like he is on a 0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:29.560 glide path to winning. He defeated Andrew Cuomo. As you said, 0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:31.840 he sort of was flying under the radar and came 0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:35.320 out of nowhere. And not only those comments and his 0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:38.600 position there with respect to Israel and everything else he 0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:42.160 was saying with Intafada. He's also anti policing. He believes 0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:44.520 the police force should be abolished in New York and 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:47.840 social workers should be doing that. He's anti private sector. 0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:51.480 He wants public grocery stores and other things. Even though 0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:53.800 the New York City is running one hundred billion dollars 0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:56.479 in debt, he thinks the buses should be free, with 0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:59.160 no explanation for how anybody is going to pay for that. 0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:01.280 And just one of quick point I would make too, 0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:03.760 is it is really interesting. It's an example of the 0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:08.560 downstream consequences of immigration and multiculturalism that he is somebody 0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:11.720 who was born outside of the US. He's a Muslim 0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:14.400 and Hindu heritage. He identifies as Muslim. And you've got 0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:16.640 the mayor of London, the mayor of Rotterdam, the mayor 0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:19.200 of Calgary, and potentially the mayor of New York City 0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:23.240 being these folks, how compatible are they really with the 0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:25.359 cities that they're governing. That is I think the elephant 0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:26.200 in the room. 0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:27.240 That's really interesting. 0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:31.480 And you know the current mayor, Eric Adams, He's running 0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:34.880 as an independent, so we have to see what chance 0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:38.080 he has against the official Democratic candidate. I mean, he 0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:40.320 seems like he has been doing an excellent job, not 0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:43.720 without controversy, but we have to hope he gets there now. 0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:44.960 Just quickly before you go farmer. 0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:47.719 Florida Congressman Matt Gates has been caught out in an 0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:51.320 embarrassing text exchange with his mum. So someone was sitting 0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:55.360 behind him on a flight and photographed his phone as 0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:58.359 she texted him saying, don't be criticizing the president or 0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:01.679