1 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to an RL three to sixty rebelle from every 2 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: aning who will brought to you by NIV. Joining me 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: again the great Gordon talents. 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: Let's bring the journal Australian James Hooper and Dean Richie. 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: We've had a massive show again on tonight. Well let's 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: start with j w H. As we left the show 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: last night, they were challenging that grade to three week 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: suspension and they lost. So he will miss four matches Jared, 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: which leads him out of the game for six weeks 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: with two buyers for the Roosters to be served in 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: that period. So it's a long period of time for 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: Jared to be out. Did he deserve this? 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: Well, the roosters are fooming. They're adamant that they'll never 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 3: go down to n RL Judiciary headquarters and troll and 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: contest a case again. They claim it's an injustice, but 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: in reality, breath, Jared's had ten chargers over the course 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 3: of the last twelve months. So when you got that 18 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 3: sort of a rap shot, everything from headbutting to fighting, 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 3: to attacking opponent's head, all those sorts of things, when 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: that's on your rap sheet, you're always going to struggle 21 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: and you're going to be a victim of the loading process. 22 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 4: It wasn't grade too, which is mid range greade ones 23 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 4: are fine. He chose to contest it as well, and 24 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 4: we all know where the game's gone in the last 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 4: three to four years concussion. 26 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 5: Yet, I didn't think the tackle was that bad. But 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 5: now Hoo's just alluded to he's had ten in the 28 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 5: last twelve months. You probably wouldn't afford it. Just in hindsight. 29 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 5: Last night, you don't Sam Walker do in the tackle? Nothing? 30 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 3: He probably gets a great one if he gets charged 31 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 3: last night. 32 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 5: Last night, you weren't okay with it? No, No, because 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 5: I didn't. I didn't think the tackle was that bad. 34 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 5: The player bounces up, so I look at Yeah, Jared's aggressive, right, 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 5: he's a big, tough guy, right, playing three hundred and 36 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 5: seven games for a famous club. He's got all those emotions. 37 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 5: He's trying to lift his team. That's what he does. 38 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 5: He got it wrong. I don't think he got that wrong. 39 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 5: For four weeks. 40 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 4: Do you guys say though it was Sam Walker, he 41 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:04,639 Speaker 4: wouldn't have been charged. 42 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: I think if it was Sam Walker. Yeah, there's every 43 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 3: log that he there's a suggestion. 44 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 4: Then that you're saying that the matter view committee is 45 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 4: looking at the player rather than the incident. 46 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: Well, of course when you've got a rap shoot. He's 47 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 3: had thirty seven charges bulldog over the course of even 48 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 3: thirty seven over the course of a seven in season career. 49 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: And this I love Jared as a player. He's an 50 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: out and out champion and he does redline. He plays 51 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: on the edge. You have to he as a front rower. 52 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 3: But if you do get it wrong and you have 53 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: got a long rap shoot like he has, well, this 54 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 3: is the risk that you take because if you get 55 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 3: to go to the judiciary and you get a roller ice, 56 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 3: you could end up with a first Sam. 57 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: Walker probably wouldn't have done it right. 58 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: But if you're saying if that was Sam Walker who 59 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: did the same shot and the Dragons player got straight up, 60 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: I reckon it's a great one. 61 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: So that's my opinion. 62 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 4: So there's a second suggestion to them Breath that the 63 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 4: player laying down every time he's hit by Jared knows 64 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 4: there's a fair chance there'll be a penalty. 65 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 5: We've seen sin We've seen that happens, especially when he 66 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 5: comes out of the line with intent. I'm not saying 67 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 5: he didn't have inten. That's not the game. 68 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 4: We're not about that. 69 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: No, we're not. 70 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 4: That's not what we're about in rugby league. Lay down 71 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 4: just because it's Jared. 72 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: We're our hard Greaves. 73 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: But the kid didn't he jumps up, That's what That's 74 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: my point though, is that if it was Sam Walker 75 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 2: and the player reacted exactly how this player did get 76 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: straight up, he didn't even flinch, then I don't think 77 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: it's a great too. I think it does come into play, 78 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: whether it should or it shouldn't. I mean the force 79 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: at which he comes in there gets him right, because 80 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: I don't think the contact was that severe because he 81 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: came in a little reckless and the way that Jared 82 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: does come in it doesn't help him right and his recorder. 83 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: Or do we have a problem a problem though with 84 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: the loading? 85 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: Is there a problem with the system if Jared's getting 86 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: even even with prize, is there a problem that he's 87 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: getting four weeks for this? 88 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 5: I think it's a problem with the grading, not so 89 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 5: much the loading, because if you're repeat offender, you've got 90 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 5: to pay a certain price. You can't just keep on 91 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 5: going out there and doing the same incidents and not 92 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 5: get punished. I actually thought it was probably a Grade one. 93 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 4: They do not induced the impact last year. At the 94 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 4: end of last year hoops in terms of the impact 95 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 4: repeat offenders are having. So they're aware of the issue. 96 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 4: But when it comes to Jared with that rap sheet 97 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 4: he's got, Yeah, there's no wriggle room with Jared. That's 98 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 4: the problem. 99 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: He's a victim of his reputation, right, So when you're 100 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: going to sail close to the edge of the way 101 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: that he does, if you get it wrong, you run 102 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 3: the risk. The thing with loading is if you have 103 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 3: a clean record for twelve months, right, so you don't 104 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 3: have any charges against you, which Gordy, I'm sure you 105 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: would add a club cheat like that plenty of times. 106 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: Then it resets and you don't have any loading, right. 107 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: But in Jared's case, he's had ten charges a tick 108 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: over twelve months. 109 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 5: And if on the Dragon's found, I go we hold on. 110 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 5: He's a winger bringing the ball off. He's end. It's 111 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 5: not a front rower charge. In adding right, he comes 112 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 5: out of his line, he goes out of his way 113 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 5: to put a shot on him. He deserves to get suspended. 114 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 5: If you're a Dragons fan, do you think. 115 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: That yeah, possibly, Yeah, yeah, I don't think the Russes 116 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: were confident any I also think that with the squad 117 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: they've gotten then you playing the way that he is 118 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: and the rest of their pack perform and the way 119 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: they are, they thought, you know, it was worth the risk, 120 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: and really I think it was. 121 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: Although they weren't confident. 122 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: I think that always they went for it, but I 123 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: don't think that really confident they were going to win. 124 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: Well, they reckon that you only allowed to use one 125 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 3: comparable incident from recent times, right, they reckon they picked 126 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 3: the wrong incident that they had another one that on 127 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: the laws of law of averages and probability, then he 128 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 3: probably should have got the down ground. 129 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: Okay. 130 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: Trying to move on, Ben Hunt's revealed the real reason 131 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,799 Speaker 2: Queensland canceled their open media session on Monday, with Billy 132 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: Slater making the whole team relieve their mcg meltdown. 133 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're to look at the Melbourne game as it 134 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 6: was definitely a tough watch, that's for sure. You know, 135 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 6: Billy definitely had some real honest conversations with a fair 136 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 6: few of us. 137 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: It's a tough video session, but one. 138 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 6: We needed, kind of like the angry Dad a bit 139 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 6: yesterday is just a bit disappointed in us and this 140 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 6: need to draw on everything we can and really embrace 141 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 6: the crowd at sun Corpen and go and get a win. 142 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: Angry Dad, Billy not have you with his boys? 143 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: And you know what you said it last night, Gordy, 144 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 2: you said you would make the team. You would make 145 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: the Queensland team. Watch now they were bullied in Melbourne 146 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: and you think it's going to get it the right reaction. 147 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, obviously, anytime you lose a game, especially at 148 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 5: this level, you're going to be hurt, You're going to 149 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 5: be cut. We watched so many sides bounced back. The 150 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 5: way New South Wales were beaten in Game one, even 151 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 5: though they were great for sixty five minutes, they would 152 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 5: have been hurting right so Queensland. 153 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: But the watch the way they got beaten. 154 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 5: So like that, if you get beaten and you go 155 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 5: down and you know, and you have a really good 156 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 5: game and you're not getting bullied, I think that you 157 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 5: can take that loss, even though it's hard. But the 158 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 5: way they got beaten, I'm not saying Queensland turned it up. 159 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 5: By the way they got beaten. They did win the 160 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 5: second half. I would make him watch it again. 161 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 4: Do you think Billy is rattled because he's had a 162 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 4: couple of series with Freddy where Freddy hasn't engaged. Madge 163 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 4: is engaged, and at the moment he looks like a 164 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 4: bloke that is used to a smooth, easy run into games. 165 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 4: He would they've been beaten ow Boardy and a few 166 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 4: barbs have come south to north and to me, he 167 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 4: just looks like he's a bloke under excruciating pressure. 168 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: No, I spoke disagree. 169 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 5: No, definitely not, because there's been no talk about for feeder, 170 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 5: the lack of forwards we've got. There's no Teenager, there's 171 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 5: no Fleggler, there's no Gil, but there's no monster. There's 172 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 5: no talk about any of that. It's just about Billy. 173 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: I don't think heavy duty Raddald Gordy. I don't think 174 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: he's heavy duty rat. I think I do think he's 175 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: in uncharted territory. This is an unfamiliar situation for Billy 176 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: as a player. He had so much success in his 177 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: early coaching life at origin level. It's been all very 178 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 3: smooth sailing into bulldogs. 179 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: Point. 180 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: He and Freddy never really engaged in any attacks or sledges, 181 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: whereas now all of a sudden in this series they 182 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: get handed a heavy loss in game too, and Madge 183 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 3: even goes before that and starts with the Glasshouse. 184 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 5: I'm feeling the pressure and I'm not even in the 185 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 5: squad right, I'm not even playing the game. I feel 186 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 5: the pressure. I feel the aanks. I know that we're 187 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 5: under the pump next Wednesday. 188 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: So if you're feeling pressure because it buzz on Thursday. 189 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 5: Because sitting there next Thursday night. But like then, but 190 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 5: Billy for the care of his state, because he's been 191 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 5: there before, he's played and decided there's not He wouldn't 192 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 5: be doing the job if he didn't feel nervous and 193 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 5: feel the pressure. But tell me this magic we feel 194 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 5: on the pressure too? 195 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: Less Why less? 196 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 4: Well, they're not expected to do it up there, and 197 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 4: it's in Bristole some course stadium. No, I'm just saying 198 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 4: that he's. 199 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 5: Not the worst Queensland, second worst Queensland side. 200 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 4: It's the second best queens The expectation is that queens 201 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 4: And will win. It's done Corps Stadium, They've done it 202 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 4: for one hundred years now, So the pressure is more 203 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 4: on Billy than Madge. 204 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: Do you think that Madge is in Billy his head 205 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: right now? 206 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 4: I do. I think Madge's taking this unusual approach which 207 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 4: we didn't see a club Land, did we. Madge has 208 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 4: always been reserved. I'll be honest. He mag's quite a 209 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 4: boring interview. 210 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 3: Wasn't it. 211 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 5: You're living in a glasshouse. 212 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, Madges come out now and he's throwing barbs. It's good, 213 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 4: it's great for the Origin theater. But I don't think 214 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 4: Billy was expecting it, and it's just got him off 215 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 4: the bit. 216 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. 217 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 2: All right, tomorrow night, all eyes are on KO Stadium 218 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 2: is the Dolphins host the Rabbits, and the coaches have 219 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: been creating plenty of headlines. 220 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 7: Well, I'm not doing very much at South at all. 221 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 7: I haven't been near the club. I haven't been near 222 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 7: anybody here. I've just got a deal done, and we 223 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 7: did the deal, and I'm coaching the Dolphins and that's 224 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 7: my priority. And they've got a club to run this year, 225 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 7: and they've got good people in there, and they turned 226 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 7: their season on. So trying to run two clubs that 227 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 7: doesn't work. So just being here and I've been very 228 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 7: committed to here. We turned their season iron and great 229 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 7: credit to Ben Hornby. He's had a great job with him. 230 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 7: I made him captain of Dragons when I was there, 231 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 7: and I got him to South Sydney when I went 232 00:09:59,160 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 7: there as a coach, so. 233 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: You're keeping him on too. 234 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 5: Absolutely. 235 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 8: Spoke to Wayne after the game last week, but I 236 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 8: don't know everything this week, so yeah, looking forward to 237 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 8: going up against We talked reagularly before i'd taken over. 238 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 8: To be honest, We've been talking regularly for ten plus years, 239 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 8: so nothing's really changed there. Sois I find a little 240 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 8: bit disrespectful, Yeah, not just to me, but to everyone here. 241 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 8: That's that's doing a great job and the players included. 242 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 8: So it is what it is. It's more of a 243 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 8: story that way. But we're just concentrating on what we 244 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 8: can do this week. 245 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: I mean. 246 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 5: Next year, that's that's for. 247 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 8: Me and Wayne to know, and I'm going to keep 248 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 8: it like that, so I'm sure he'll do the same. 249 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: Hornby says that betett suggestions are disrespectful both Hornby and 250 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: Better trying to hose it down there. 251 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: What do you go? 252 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: I think he's the best way and he's just sitting 253 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 3: back with the cards nice and tight on the farm 254 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: in the recliner with the feed up smoking his pipe. 255 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: And there's no doubt whatsoever of a Braith. 256 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 5: Why not. 257 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 3: For a fact, I've spoken to players about it. Wayne 258 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: has been speaking of the players on a regular basis 259 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: and he has given Ben advice about certain tactical things 260 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: that he could do with the team. Ben's taken that 261 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 3: advice on board. You have to give Ben Hornby and 262 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: Dave Furner enormous credit for what they've been able to 263 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: do with this South Sydney team, the way they've been 264 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 3: able to galvanize them. But there's no question whatsoever Wayne 265 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 3: is still heavily involved in everything that he's in. 266 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: This a unique situation because Wayne and Ben, as Wayne 267 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: just said, go back a long way, you know, coach 268 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: him in the Grand Final victory, employed him. It's how 269 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: Sydney's assistant coach is going to have him as assistant 270 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: coach next year with him at the Bunny. So although 271 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: there could be a line being chrissed, these two are 272 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: good mates who lean on each other. 273 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: Regardless of this situation. 274 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 2: Ben would have been talking away at the start of 275 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: the year as much as he probably is now. So 276 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: it's a bit of a tricky one. 277 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: I don't know. I see it. I see it a 278 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: little different. How do you see Goody. 279 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 5: Well, he coached with Craig Bellamy for about five years 280 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 5: at Brisbane. Does he ring him? 281 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. 282 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 5: He coached off there off he coached Kevy for about twenty. 283 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, does he ring him? 284 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 3: I don't know? 285 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: Does he know? 286 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 5: No? 287 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: That's the point. Yeah, right, so like then. 288 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 3: Going back, Yeah, but in relation to Ben, he's Ben's 289 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 3: mentor essentially what they want to premiership as coach and player. 290 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: At the Dragon smashed the thirty year title. 291 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 4: I'm sure other coaches ring and talk about is if 292 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 4: mim missing something here? 293 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? 294 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 4: Dolphins, if one coach rings another is an issue here. 295 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: I think if you're the make care here, I certainly don't, right. 296 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: But if i'm you got to take Peeler back. The 297 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: Dolphins are on a horror run and a lot of 298 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: that's coincided with. 299 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 4: Wayne, through Wayne ringing Horny. 300 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to put it out there. It's it's 301 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: more the fans. If I'm if you're a you're not 302 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: a Dolphins fan. If you're a Dolphins fan, and the 303 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: head coach signs mess House and then ever since they dive. 304 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 2: He's talking to talking to their players, talking to their 305 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: coach and see hows to go on that way? If 306 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 2: you're a fan of the Dolphins, would you think different 307 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: to what you think? 308 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 4: Well, I'll say this back to you. You are questioning 309 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 4: Wayne's professionalism and I don't think through the fans gasion. 310 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 4: What I'm saying is you let me finish is that 311 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,119 Speaker 4: if you were saying that Wayne is ringing them and 312 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 4: and Dolphins are sliding, if you're saying Wayne's not doing 313 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 4: his job and to someone. 314 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 5: Who's and did two things one hundred percent. So when 315 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 5: Benji Marshall lost nine and he went overseas the game 316 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 5: had a problem. 317 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 4: With Wayne Bennett. 318 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: He had a problem with that, I did. 319 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 5: They lost, Okay, so now Dolphins probably lost five. Don't 320 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 5: you think he should be concentrating on the Dolphins? 321 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: That is the only he's still he has still got 322 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: his chips pushed all in with the Dolphins, Gordon. If 323 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: you look at their form, yes they've had some losses. 324 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: They've lost four of their last five games, but some 325 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 3: of them have been extre only close games. They've gone 326 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 3: down to the likes of Melbourne. I still think and 327 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 3: it's always been the plan for the Dolphins is for 328 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: Christian Wolf to become the successor. So Christian's very hands 329 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 3: on in terms of all the recruitment, all the strategizing, 330 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 3: all the planning for next season. Wayne is still doing 331 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 3: what he needs to do. 332 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: Players had on. 333 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 5: If I'm sitting in the dress room and I know 334 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 5: my coach is ringing another side, I wouldn't like it. 335 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 5: It is as simple as that. 336 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: That's you. 337 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 4: I'm not worrying about what you can out of ours. 338 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 5: He should be worrying about our job because it's our job. 339 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 5: It's our responsibility to win. It's not my job. It's everybody. 340 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 5: It's a team. There's no iron team. 341 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: I don't have an issue with ringing the coach, And 342 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: what I was talking about was perception. I've been supportive 343 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: of warning the Dolphins. But if you're ringing other players 344 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: personally who you're playing against, the playing against this weekend, 345 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: and you're giving them advice on how to better themselves 346 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: and play better, and you're sitting in the shed, he's. 347 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 3: Probably left the phone in the back pocket. In fairness 348 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 3: for this week. I'm sure he hasn't been picked up 349 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: the You know. 350 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: If you've played the game, you can put yourself in 351 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: that position. I don't listen. 352 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: They love one and they respect him and they trust him, 353 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: and I'm sure it's not a big deal, but it's 354 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: just the perception that it has created. Now Hornby's stocks 355 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: have to be rising. You know, Benny's kind of gone 356 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: under the radar the last few years because he's been 357 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: an assistant at the Bunnies and they're going. They're going 358 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: great last year until midway and the year before that, 359 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: and they had a horror run. But he's well, I 360 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: wouldn't say single handled after the conversation we just had, 361 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 2: but he's done a magdivsent job to get this team 362 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: to where. 363 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: They are right now from where they were. 364 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: So I mean, is he is he he's going to 365 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: be a first grade coach in waiting, maybe next in 366 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: line bulldog. 367 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 4: Well, he's certainly jumping in the queue, isn't he? From 368 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: where he was? Five in a row. He's unlocked the team, 369 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 4: He unlocked Latrell pre injury. I guess the uncomfortable question 370 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 4: we have to ask is where does it leave Jason Demetro. 371 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 4: Why couldn't he do what Ben Hornby is doing now? 372 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 4: And that's not a knock on JD because we all 373 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 4: think he can coach. 374 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: How that's okay? 375 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 4: Well, and why break Ben Hornby do what he's doing 376 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 4: when the team wouldn't do it for Jason Demetro. 377 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: I think it all went so pair shaped at the 378 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: back end of last season. You've got to remember that 379 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 3: South's they were on top of the comp halfway through 380 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: last year, and then it all went so pair shaped. 381 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 3: They missed the finals, and they told us that there 382 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 3: was nothing going on, but there were all. 383 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: Sorts of. 384 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: Narratives and news lines put out in the open about 385 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: conflict too was running the club, what was actually happening 386 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 3: behind the scenes, and JD didn't handle all of that 387 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 3: and he became a victim of that. Ben Hornby has 388 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: been able to galvanize the group. They look happy. He's 389 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: made some key positional changes. I think there's no question 390 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: whatsoever Broath he deserves enormous credit and he is an 391 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 3: NRL coach in waiting note out. He strikes me as 392 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 3: a typical way and understudy style of a coach a 393 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 3: lot the way he's very flat bat and keeps his 394 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: cards noise and close when he's in front of the 395 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: cameras doesn't give much away, but you speak the players 396 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 3: at South's at the moment and they've got a great 397 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 3: rapport with him. 398 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: The rust hasn't changed. 399 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: That's why we were so critical of us, and a 400 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,239 Speaker 2: lot of people were, because they've had the team to 401 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 2: be a top fourteen for the past two years and 402 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: that's why it was incredible that they dropped off for 403 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: Cliff as severe as they did. But it's good to 404 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: see that they are back where they should be and 405 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: they're fighting for finals now. 406 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: Now. 407 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: Dog Rosey, Jason Roles. He's got the job at Paramata, 408 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 2: but you believe there's a bit of pressure on him. 409 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 4: Oh most certainly. I think Jason Royles will feel the 410 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 4: sins of the past thirty seven years we've waited that 411 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 4: will not go away until they win a premiership. He's 412 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 4: the eleventh coach since John Money in nineteen eighty six. 413 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 4: He is under more pressure than anybody, as are the 414 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,719 Speaker 4: three that appointed him because they overlooked Josh Hannay. And 415 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 4: the main issue I've got with ParaMed at the moment 416 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 4: is the window is it closing? It's an aging roster. 417 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 4: Moses Guthus and Paul o' lane Campbell, Gillard, Seva cart 418 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 4: Right all twenty nine and thirty years old. So the 419 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 4: window is got has twelve, eighteen, twenty four months later. 420 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 4: So you think that he needs to recruit, he'll have 421 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 4: to make some dramatic decisions the next year, year and 422 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 4: a half. 423 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: Who's going? Who needs to go? 424 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 4: Look, Moses will stay, he'd be part of the spine. 425 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: We know that. 426 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 4: Well look, look, b look, I don't know. 427 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: You don't look. I don't know. 428 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 4: Thet I did some ago, I guess can't write to 429 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 4: be fighting for his spot. Ryan Madison will be fighting 430 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 4: for his spot sewn Lane. I mean, there's a lot 431 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 4: of players there aren't guaranteed to be re signed. 432 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 3: Listening to Paul Crawls last night, I had to laugh 433 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 3: at the jibber jabber article that came out saying Paramatta 434 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 3: with the Broncos of the West. He said it should 435 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 3: have started once upon a time because it was written 436 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 3: as such a fairy tale, the way that the eels 437 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: are set up at the moment. I feel for Rossie 438 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 3: and I know he's made of yours, and I think 439 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 3: that he will be able to do a good job 440 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 3: in time. But it's a poison Chalice at paramatter at 441 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 3: the moment, the staff for all walking around on eggshells. 442 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 3: Nobody's job is guaranteed. There is going to have to 443 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 3: be a roster shakeup because, as we've just pointed out, 444 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: it's an aging list. I know that RCG was looking 445 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 3: at possibly going overseas earlier in the year. That was 446 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 3: when Brad Arthur was still the coach. I don't know 447 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 3: that that's still the same, but perhaps the club might 448 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: try and go in that direction because that would free 449 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 3: up a significant amount of dough. Mike Asivo is another 450 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 3: player who's currently been young kids. Yeah, but Gordy, they 451 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 3: had your spot on but they haven't been able to 452 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 3: get that streamlined and flowing through in the NRL for decades. 453 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 3: It hasn't worked. With the exception of Blaze Telungi, the 454 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 3: other best young kid. They've got Ethan Sanders's assign with 455 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 3: the Raiders. They're not set up like Penrith. The Panthers 456 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 3: have got the procession line, humming paramatter and the people 457 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,479 Speaker 3: who are the decision makers at the joint at the moment, 458 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 3: which has been proven have zero four ball IQ. 459 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: So whose foal is it? I point the finger of 460 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: ba for this. 461 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 3: Or is it yeah, now that ba is out the door, 462 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 3: Certainly there are people at the club in positions of 463 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: power that are trying to say will they had the 464 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 3: loudest voice in terms of recruitment. 465 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 4: Because they're all trying to get in the life right 466 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 4: here the. 467 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: Building. 468 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 3: They are all trying to cover their own as I 469 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 3: think the fish rots from the head first break. So 470 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 3: I'm looking at the chairman, I'm looking at the CEO. 471 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: They don't have any experience in terms of how to 472 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 3: set up a successful football club. I'm sure that they've 473 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 3: spoken to plenty of people about how to try and 474 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 3: make it fly. But you've only got to look at 475 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 3: the slide that the club's been on since making. 476 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 5: The gre Look at Penrith, just drive around. 477 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 4: If the only have that easy, if only was that easy. 478 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 4: Dylan Brown signed until thirty one, two exit clauses after 479 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 4: twenty six and twenty twenty eight, both in the tenure 480 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 4: of Jason Rowls, so that'd be a fascinating watch it years. 481 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: But they've got to keep blaze to Lungey. That's you know, 482 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: he's a young gun. 483 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 5: But didn't Guthleson say today that he will move positions 484 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 5: a kid to play hard fall back. 485 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: He did. He did say that today. 486 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 2: And he's been shopped around at the moment, and I 487 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: hear the Dolphins are now in the frame for him 488 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 2: amongst others. 489 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 4: Is that true Newcastle Dragons. I think he'll stay hoops, 490 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 4: that's the male I'm getting he was just. 491 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: Coming out of power or yes, yeah, they've been saying 492 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 3: that for a while. 493 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 4: But he has been waiting to see the new coaches. 494 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 4: So we have to obviously work out whether he is 495 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 4: a Jason Roles player and Roles is his kind of coach. 496 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 4: But I think he will resign. 497 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 5: I think, can you just what does it mean if 498 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 5: he's my coach? And if he's the. 499 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 4: Kind of style that he wants to plan he might 500 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 4: not want to plan to adjacent rolls. Did he want 501 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 4: to planner a Brad Arthur? Probably not. That's why he 502 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 4: didn't want to resign. Every player wants to know he wants. 503 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: To play under a Christian Wolf instead. 504 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. 505 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: Sign I found the. 506 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 3: Most interesting thing about this Blaze to Lungey's story is 507 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: it's an Isaac Meserson. Okay, so one of the most 508 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 3: senior figures in the game loves to reference how Isaac 509 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 3: looks at NRL clubs like McDonald's franchises, and so he 510 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 3: gets a head coach in at various clubs and then 511 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: the McDonald's franchise is open for business. So he's got 512 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 3: Christian Wolf at the Dolphins next year, so he's got 513 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 3: McDonald's Redcliffe. He's got Adam O'Brien at Newcastle, so he's 514 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 3: got McDonald's Merriweather and then he's got Shane Flanagan. 515 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: He's got some competition at McDonald's. 516 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 3: Woollongong, right, And what are you know with Blaze Telangy 517 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 3: who's managed by Isaac. Well, all three of those, the 518 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 3: clubs that are interested are all Isaac coaches. 519 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 5: And when are these players going to stand up for themselves? 520 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 5: And it's my career not yours. Fascinating they're the ones 521 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 5: that pay the manager. They're the ones that give him 522 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 5: the clip. You're his boss, You tell him where you 523 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 5: want to play and he goes and gets the deal done. 524 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 3: To Bulldog's point from earlier, I've heard it because he's 525 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 3: a local junior, Blaze Telangy, and I have heard that 526 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 3: he the club. All he ever wanted to do was 527 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: play for the years. So that's why I found it 528 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 3: really surprising that he didn't take up the option that 529 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 3: was in his favor, and he's decided to put himself 530 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 3: in this situation where he can be shopped around. 531 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: I love a big mac hoops. You mill put it on. 532 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 5: I'm goat. 533 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 4: Anyway, tea next week. 534 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: These days? 535 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 3: All right? 536 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: What's the hold up on Sam Walker? And he's a 537 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: deal at the Roosters. This is an interesting one because 538 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: Sam is up there in the top two three half 539 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 2: backs in our game right now. He seems very happy 540 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 2: at the Roosters. He's playing great there. We know the 541 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: Roosters would not want to let him go if they 542 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: an't signing before November. He's a free agent. Why haven't 543 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 2: they signed yet? Are they going to signing before November? 544 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 3: Well, the Roosters rarely miss the mark when it comes 545 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 3: to recruitment and retention. They've made a two year offer. 546 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: I think it's a tick over nine hundred thousand dollars 547 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 3: per see't but they're now even considering possibly making that 548 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 3: a longer term deal. So maybe they go back to 549 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: the drawing board and make a five year offer or 550 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: something similar and look to make it. Obviously, extremely highly 551 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 3: paid in the back end of that deal. So they're 552 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 3: just I think they'll get it done and certainly so. 553 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: The stall is on the price right now. 554 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: The Roosters don't really want to move on what they've 555 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: offered him, is that right? 556 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: But an he wants more? 557 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 3: Like I'm not privy to the exact conversations that have 558 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: been going. 559 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: I just gound the table. 560 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 5: Would that be market value? Like unless you want to 561 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 5: go that I was about to say one of the 562 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 5: lower clubs, which that's what you've got to do, right 563 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 5: if you want more money, But the bigger club's are 564 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 5: to be probably around the money. 565 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: What's he worth? 566 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's the great question. What would we say, 567 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 3: Jerome what a Jerome Law I get at the Tigers 568 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 3: was at one point four ye? Right, So if Jerome 569 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 3: Law is worth one point four million dollars on the 570 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: ap market, what's at. 571 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 5: A wooden spoon club. Yes, that's a good point a 572 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 5: figure out anybody that's not at Melbourne, that's not Penrith, 573 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 5: that's not at the Roosters, that's not at Britain, that's 574 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 5: not if you'll. 575 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: Get one point four Gordy, A lot of players would 576 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 2: take one point one one point two to win a comp. 577 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: A lot more chance of winning at comp. That's the reality. 578 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 5: So you've got Cleary number one, Dally, Cherry Evans, Jerome Hrees, 579 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 5: what are they on? He'd just be sitting underneath those. 580 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 3: They're all over a million dollars. 581 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Is he not like I think he is? 582 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 3: In my opinion, yes, but I don't deal with it 583 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 3: on a daily basis. In terms of having to make 584 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 3: those calls. He would win a salary cap if you 585 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 3: went to the open market. I've got no doubt that 586 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 3: he would get a million dollars. But I just get 587 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 3: the impression the roosters, they know how important he is. 588 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 3: Luke Kerey is leaving him, will go and finish his 589 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 3: career in France next season. They know how much they 590 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 3: need seam Walker. And I don't think it is all 591 00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 3: about money or either break. 592 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 4: I don't think he's got to remember two hoops that 593 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 4: the reason he is so successful so young is because 594 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 4: of the players around him. If he wants to plan 595 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 4: that rooster's system, he'd have to cop a little bit 596 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 4: of a haircut because you've got angers, You've got Brandon 597 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 4: goes on and on and on. 598 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: You make a point, but the Roosters were not the 599 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: team they are now back before he started his form. 600 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 1: He's run back at the end. Zach correct. 601 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 2: He this year has I think catapulted them into Premiership contenders. 602 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 2: They've got a great roster you take Sam out of that. 603 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: Though they can't win the comp this year. They can't. 604 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: Luke's Kry's doing a great job and he's got better 605 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 2: as year's got on. 606 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: But Sam is their man, so they need him. 607 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 4: If you're saying it's nine plus a back ended deal 608 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 4: which will be one one point one, one point two 609 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 4: so forth, I think that's good money for Sam. 610 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't think, and I think he'll take 611 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 2: like you'll take a haircut to stay at the Roosters. 612 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 2: He will and everyone will say, oh salary cap because 613 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 2: he wants to win a camp. 614 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: He loves it there and it looks happy there. There's 615 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: great opportunities to come with with final with this just. 616 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 4: Won't want him on that open market. They'll come November one, 617 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 4: but quickly. 618 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: Is there any chance he would want to give back 619 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: to Queensland. 620 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 3: Well, we spoke about it last morning. Like he is 621 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 3: a he's a Coeensland, he's a coins. 622 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 5: He's dead and he's two uncles. 623 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: It's house. Well why wouldn't he Jeez, I don't say that. 624 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 3: Here we go. 625 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: I don't know. 626 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 3: He just pulled the pin out of. 627 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: But you don't. 628 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 5: Well, listen, everyone talks about that there's no halfbacks on 629 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 5: the market, doesn't have brought Yeah, but doesn't every club 630 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 5: go and go and have a conversation with him? Yeah? 631 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 3: Look to your question about Coinsland. We've said it previously, 632 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 3: it was discussed last week. He's an Ipswich kid. Obviously 633 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: Mum and dad are both still up in Coinsland. Does 634 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 3: he want to return there? Will tell? But I think 635 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 3: he's happy but enjoy it. 636 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 2: In fact, because I don't see why you believe the 637 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: russ is the only reason I see is that if 638 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 2: you want to go about the Queensland, well. 639 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 4: There's a logical succession to Adam Reynolds. That's what end 640 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 4: of next year there's a vacancy. 641 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 3: They came up again one cause super drama. 642 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: All right now, bulldof, you've got a bright idea for 643 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: us tonight? Can you share it with a split? 644 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 4: All My ideas are bright, break you know that that's 645 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 4: why I get invited onto this wonderful show. Because my 646 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 4: idea is, Gordy Man, are you ready? 647 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: Yes? If it's not good, you're not back next week. 648 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 4: I looked at the Warriors last week, and you know what, 649 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 4: I actually felt sorry with them. I thought it was 650 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 4: almost cruel that they were down to fourteen fit men 651 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 4: and they got beaten in the eighty eighth minute and 652 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 4: they got jack. You know what, they got jack? 653 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: You know what? 654 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 4: So I come on, I advocated today that it's two 655 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 4: points for a win. Why don't we take it to 656 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 4: four points per game now for a win. And if 657 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 4: you go into Golden Point, you get three wins for 658 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 4: a win and you get won for a loss. It 659 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 4: gives the losing team in Golden Point, who have busted 660 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 4: their asses not being beaten in the eighty minutes, got 661 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 4: beaten in extra time. It gives them one point at least. 662 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 4: It gives them something, not. 663 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:12,479 Speaker 1: A bad idea. 664 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 4: Thank you next week. 665 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: I've heard this before. I don't yeah familiar copy. 666 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 4: He takes claim for every story written about regulars. 667 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 3: I soon remember when this got brought up last time, 668 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 3: it got shot down in flames, it got minced. 669 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 2: Was how did it take you to copy and paste 670 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: our buzzer. 671 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 4: Story which runs his head for his head. 672 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: You know you won't get a start next. 673 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 5: That was good dog. Every kid. 674 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 4: I was accused today have been woke on the most 675 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 4: normal person. 676 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: You don't get a ribbon. 677 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 4: You can't get something. 678 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 5: Everybody, and you know what, they've worked so hard they 679 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 5: all should get them. 680 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: Many know what I'm visipointed about. I'll never get that. 681 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: Two minutes back time down looking out Bundy player, what's 682 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 2: brought to you by Bunderberg Rum? 683 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: Who are your players? Boys? O'll go? 684 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 4: Daniel Atkinson, young kid, got a bit of cockiness about him, 685 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 4: Nico Hines's replacement. Let's see he's up to it. 686 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 3: Joe Great the Bunnies for men La Troll Mitchell. So 687 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 3: Joe gets another opportunity at fullback the Wayne Bennett Cup. 688 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 3: I think he's going to go really well. This young kid. 689 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: Beautiful, can't wait. Thank you great work. 690 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 4: Next Tuesday, lock me in. 691 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, you might have to have a spell 692 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: after that. I'm next. 693 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: The Legends are in Spunk and Billy Moore and tonight 694 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 2: a huge night of boxing. Let's head down under Woollongong 695 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 2: with Peter Bedell and Meghan Barna