Speaker 1: Vince is the Media Show with Jack outing.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the Media Show. We've got a
Speaker 2: big show tonight, including looking at the charges against broadcaster
Speaker 2: Alan Jones. But first, it's only been a few weeks
Speaker 2: since Donald Trump shattered the hopes and dreams of journalists
Speaker 2: around the world by winning a democratic election. Bud one
Speaker 2: what network, which honestly spent years referring to Trump as
Speaker 2: a Nazi and a risk to democracy, Well, at least
Speaker 2: now it's trying to be balanced.
Speaker 3: Over the past week, Joe and I have heard from
Speaker 3: so many people, from political leaders to regular citizens, deeply
Speaker 3: dismayed by several of President like Trump's cabinet selections, and
Speaker 3: they are scared. Last Thursday, we expressed our own concerns
Speaker 3: on this broadcast and even said we would appreciate the
Speaker 3: opportunity to speak with the President elect himself. On Friday,
Speaker 3: we were given the opportunity to do just that.
Speaker 2: Cue they and outrage from their own left wing audience
Speaker 2: and MSNBC's Morning Joe hosts didn't just speak to Trump.
Speaker 2: They went right into the belly of the beast.
Speaker 3: Joe and I went to mar A Lago to meet
Speaker 3: personally with President Like Trump. It was the first time
Speaker 3: we have seen him in seven years now.
Speaker 4: We talked about a lot of issues, including abortion, mass deportation,
Speaker 4: threats of political retribution against political opponents and media outlets.
Speaker 4: We talked about that a good bit, and that's going
Speaker 4: to come as no surprise to anybody who watches this show,
Speaker 4: has watched it over the past year or over the
Speaker 4: past decade, that we didn't see eye to eye on
Speaker 4: a lot of issues, and we told him so.
Speaker 3: What we did agree on was to restar our communications.
Speaker 2: As if Trump would care whether he communicates with MSNBC
Speaker 2: or not. But MSNBC viewers clearly cared, with The New
Speaker 2: York Post reporting the less than an hour after this
Speaker 2: segment aired, viewers a band of the network. Ratings for
Speaker 2: the program dropped thirty eight percent in the twenty five
Speaker 2: to fifty four demographic, which the Post also points out
Speaker 2: as the demographic that advertises target and I wonder why
Speaker 2: they turned off. You might think a journalist meeting the
Speaker 2: president elect is a normal thing, and you'd be right.
Speaker 2: But the confusion, of course, is that this network has
Speaker 2: spent years attacking Trump as a threat.
Speaker 5: The former and future president is moving quickly to fill
Speaker 5: the clown car and round out his cabinet before he
Speaker 5: changes his mind and fires them all.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's just going full Nazi here, full Fascis.
Speaker 6: But once you have radicalized one major party so that
Speaker 6: those are the preferences of the people who adhere to
Speaker 6: your party, the leaders that are changeable, and yes, trump
Speaker 6: Ism is sometimes what we call it, Maga movement is
Speaker 6: probably a better way to do it. But there is
Speaker 6: an authoritarian movement inside Republican politics that isn't being bamboozled
Speaker 6: by Trump. They are pushing Trumpet more and more extreme
Speaker 6: because the more extreme things he says, the one thing,
Speaker 6: the more they adhere to.
Speaker 5: Where one side stands for freedom while the other meets
Speaker 5: the textbook definition of fascism, namely a far right dictatorial
Speaker 5: regime like Hitler's Germany or Frankel's Spain or Mussolini's Italy.
Speaker 7: We've warned you.
Speaker 5: About Donald Trump's profound unfitness for office, from his theft
Speaker 5: of classified documents and attempted insurrection to his clear cognitive
Speaker 5: and physical decline.
Speaker 2: MSNBC viewers must be so confused. One minute, he's this
Speaker 2: dictator who's going to steal America and the next. He
Speaker 2: is an important source of communication for MSNBC, and we've
Speaker 2: seen this play out across the media more broadly. Before
Speaker 2: the election, White House press set Kareem Jean Pierre regularly
Speaker 2: made inflammatory comments.
Speaker 8: Like this, how many times you have does January sixth,
Speaker 8: twenty twenty one. Is that is a fact what was
Speaker 8: reported that happened on day by some of your colleagues.
Speaker 8: I mean, and we have at the same time denounced
Speaker 8: political violence over and over, political rhetoric, over and over again.
Speaker 2: But last week, the man who everyone said was a
Speaker 2: dangerous threat to democracy, all of a sudden, wasn't.
Speaker 8: This administration message to millions of Americans that they're going
Speaker 8: to wake up day after the election if Trump won
Speaker 8: and have their right stripped away, that democracy would crumble?
Speaker 2: And President said today.
Speaker 8: We're going to be okay, So how do you swear it?
Speaker 8: I can square that. I'm going to square that in
Speaker 8: a way that hopefully makes sense, because I've been answering
Speaker 8: this question multiple times. The American people made the decision
Speaker 8: there was an election two nights ago. There was and
Speaker 8: it was a free and fair election, and we respect
Speaker 8: the election process. We do, and Americans spoke and so
Speaker 8: the job of the president is to make sure we
Speaker 8: respect that. The job of the president is to make
Speaker 8: sure that we have a peaceful transfer of power.
Speaker 2: Well, joining me on the show today is skyn New's
Speaker 2: host kayleb Bond and skyhu's contributor Damian Curry. Caleb, let's
Speaker 2: start with you. I mean, this is essentially MSNBC realizing
Speaker 2: that they can't be a mainstream network anymore. They've essentially
Speaker 2: radicalized their audience, who turned off the channel the moment
Speaker 2: they tried to have a conversation.
Speaker 9: It's amazing, isn't it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, ordinarily I would say, and I
Speaker 1: will to some degree in this circumstance, I will say
Speaker 1: good on Joe Scarborough and his wife, who is his
Speaker 1: co host, for actually going and talking to Trump, given
Speaker 1: they obviously have a clear ideological opposition to him. And
Speaker 1: that's what any good journalist should do. You ought to
Speaker 1: deal with people from both sides. And you know, even
Speaker 1: though viewers would know exactly what I think on most
Speaker 1: things because I talk about them every night, I've always
Speaker 1: prided myself on having contacts and relationships on both sides
Speaker 1: of politics, because if you're not willing to understand the
Speaker 1: other side, then how can you possibly argue in good
Speaker 1: faith for what you believe in if you can't compare
Speaker 1: and contrast with things. But when you go on as
Speaker 1: you just showed, saying that he's Hitler, he's a fascist,
Speaker 1: he's a dictator, this will be the end of democracy.
Speaker 1: There'll never be another election in the US. He's stealing
Speaker 1: the joint. You'll have no rights to teter. Why would
Speaker 1: you then want to go and sit down with that dude? Like,
Speaker 1: you can't blame the viewers for being confused that the
Speaker 1: guy they've been told is literally Hitler is now good.
Speaker 9: To go and have a cup of tea with it.
Speaker 2: Mari Lago, welcome, Damien, let's bring you into this. I've
Speaker 2: bean Caleb raises such a good point. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 2: it just reveals that it was political posturing. They're essentially
Speaker 2: saying to their audience, well, we were kind of being
Speaker 2: inflammatory and made all that up, So now let's treat
Speaker 2: this a lot more normally than we were a few
Speaker 2: weeks ago.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, could they have any less credibile? I mean,
Speaker 7: they deserve to go broke, they deserve to have no ratings.
Speaker 7: They deserve to not exist or to cease to exist,
Speaker 7: because it is absolutely appalling stuff that they've been doing
Speaker 7: for four years. I mean, I do a podcast called
Speaker 7: The Other Side because we want to sit down rationally
Speaker 7: and talk sensibly about issues from a center right perspective
Speaker 7: with people from the left. The problem, I think, and
Speaker 7: the distinction we've got to make is between commentary that's
Speaker 7: all emotionally driven and commentary that's rational. And MSNBC has
Speaker 7: been debarking mad, irrational, radical left side of things for
Speaker 7: quite a long time. And if you want to look
Speaker 7: at it on that scale, you can't say Fox is
Speaker 7: as irrational as MSNBC.
Speaker 8: It is.
Speaker 7: It's far more moderated, far more intelligent. CNBC would be
Speaker 7: the far more intelligent side of the left in the media,
Speaker 7: but MSNBC is just operating on this sort of hysterical,
Speaker 7: hyper lot of nonsense. Now that is typical of the
Speaker 7: left itself. I would say there is a tendency on
Speaker 7: the left to be far more erratic and emotional than
Speaker 7: on the right. But yeah, I mean, they've just been
Speaker 7: doing this crazy stuff for so long, for so many years,
Speaker 7: that you know, their credibility has got to be completely
Speaker 7: in the toilet by now right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very funny and we had a bit of
Speaker 2: a laugh when Joy Reid had the wall behind her.
Speaker 2: It's got Muzzolini and Hitler and she's comparing it to
Speaker 2: try and we can lock. But there is a serious
Speaker 2: element to this. And look, MSNBC is going to MSNBC,
Speaker 2: that's what they do. But I want to get your
Speaker 2: reaction to Kareem Jean Pierre. Who is That's an official role.
Speaker 2: It's the press secretary. It's supposed to be the distribution
Speaker 2: point from the White House, Caleb to the American people
Speaker 2: and the rest of the world. And she's sitting there
Speaker 2: characterizing this election, as you mentioned, potentially the last threat
Speaker 2: to democracy. Brilliant of that Fox News report at a
Speaker 2: caller on that saying well, hey, god, what happened to
Speaker 2: this threat? Now you're sitting down and Joe Biden's having
Speaker 2: a cup of tea with.
Speaker 9: Him as they offer.
Speaker 1: I mean, Peter Doocey does great work at Fox News,
Speaker 1: or has done. We're calling out the Biden administration, particularly
Speaker 1: when he faces KJP. But of course, the job of
Speaker 1: the press secretary of the President of the United States
Speaker 1: or any press secretary anywhere in the world for that matter,
Speaker 1: is to feed lines to the media. They send stuff
Speaker 1: out there that they hope the media will pick up on.
Speaker 1: And of course most of the commercial media in the
Speaker 1: United States and even the public media much like ours here,
Speaker 1: is left wing, so they dutifully pick up the lines
Speaker 1: that get sent out by the press, Sex and the administration, etc.
Speaker 1: And they too end up being confused when the people
Speaker 1: who've been saying that he's Hitler, and they've been then
Speaker 1: repeating these lines suddenly say we're going to have a
Speaker 1: peaceful and orderly.
Speaker 9: Transfer of power here.
Speaker 1: Everyone has been complicit in this fear mongering bit, the
Speaker 1: media or the Biden administration because they thought they would
Speaker 1: get away with it. I am convinced that Harris I
Speaker 1: mean Biden for some weird reason, probably because his brains
Speaker 1: turned to mashed potato. I think did think he could
Speaker 1: beat Donald Trump before Harris usurped him. And I think
Speaker 1: Harris was convinced she was going to beat Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: So they thought that running these lines about Hitler and
Speaker 1: threat to democracy, et cetera was actually going to work,
Speaker 1: and that they would never have to pay for it.
Speaker 1: In some way, they would never have to later justify
Speaker 1: what they'd done because they were going to win anyway.
Speaker 1: They're now in the difficult position of not having won,
Speaker 1: and so they're backpedaling as fast as possible, which is
Speaker 1: why I.
Speaker 2: Think they're only because they've realized we got it wrong.
Speaker 2: Well exactly, they also realized that it didn't work, and
Speaker 2: then so now they're trying to change change tach. If
Speaker 2: it did work, I think we'd be seeing a lot
Speaker 2: more of that rhetoric. But let's move on, because not
Speaker 2: all media stars are prepared to kiss the ring. One
Speaker 2: talk show host thinks the solution is to run away.
Speaker 10: Ellen DeGeneres is saying goodbye to the USA. Multiple outlets
Speaker 10: are reporting that the comedian and wife Portia Rossy are
Speaker 10: bidding farewell to the United States and are moving across
Speaker 10: the pond to rural England. Reports say the couple was
Speaker 10: driven to their decision after the election of Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: And pundits thought that these two multimillionaire stars fleeing a
Speaker 2: Trump presidency was a sign of things to come.
Speaker 11: It does mark the beginning of a kind of cultural
Speaker 11: brain drain, right when the best and brightest of your
Speaker 11: population no longer feel like they want to stay here,
Speaker 11: they go elsewhere. Then it starts to create kind of
Speaker 11: an inevitability that other people that are following behind, whether
Speaker 11: in this case it's celebrities and you know, actors, but
Speaker 11: it also could be your brightest scientists, you know, your
Speaker 11: brightest economic thinkers. And so I think it impacts the
Speaker 11: political climate in the way that it might hurt particular
Speaker 11: sectors as well.
Speaker 2: Let's bring the panel back in Damian Love to get
Speaker 2: your reaction to that. The best and brightest it's the scientists,
Speaker 2: the great thinkers of this world, such as Ellen DeGeneres.
Speaker 2: It's a terrible thing, isn't it.
Speaker 7: Porschit to ROSSI, Oh yeah, they're right up there with
Speaker 7: the best thigures as sidus of the world. Well, this
Speaker 7: just proves it. This is the arrogance, the absolute thought bubble,
Speaker 7: isolated arrogance of these people, that they think anybody gives
Speaker 7: a damn what they think, and that that we put
Speaker 7: them on the totten pedestal like we might put a
Speaker 7: brilliant signus or a brilliant high achieving business person for example.
Speaker 7: I'm only glad that they're going to England and not
Speaker 7: coming down under. Back to porscheit to Rossi's home in
Speaker 7: Melbourne and staying right away from US as far as
Speaker 7: they possibly can. Nobody cares that these people are leaving America.
Speaker 7: But I think what the left have got to understand,
Speaker 7: and what the media have got to understand, is that
Speaker 7: when you criticize Trump and you call him a Nazi
Speaker 7: and you call him a fascist, and you make these
Speaker 7: insanely hyperbolic, hysterical kinds of comments about somebody a political opponent, that.
Speaker 9: You're actually insulting.
Speaker 7: You're actually making those comments about the people who vote
Speaker 7: for him, and that in this is now the majority
Speaker 7: of Americans who support him. So you can't run around
Speaker 7: through life thinking that the rest of the world is
Speaker 7: insane and you're not. You have to actually listen to
Speaker 7: the other side and sit down and think about things
Speaker 7: and think things through. And that's something that the left
Speaker 7: don't seem to be doing post this election. They all
Speaker 7: seem to be, you know, just being hysterical and assuming
Speaker 7: still assuming everybody thinks like them and everybody hates Trump
Speaker 7: in America.
Speaker 9: They do not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really good point and I think it
Speaker 2: goes as well to show that some of these journalists
Speaker 2: really put so much weight into what celebrities are doing,
Speaker 2: and they genuinely think that Ellen de Generes leaving the country,
Speaker 2: Oh well, that's going to have this cascading domino effect.
Speaker 2: It's absurd. But it also shows that they haven't learnt
Speaker 2: their lesson from the election from having celebrities who, by
Speaker 2: the way, have you seen their Californian mansion which is
Speaker 2: going on the market. Oh, they could put a lot
Speaker 2: of immigrants across the water on that property. Don't imagine
Speaker 2: there's that many camping out there. But there is this
Speaker 2: disconnect and they genuinely think that celebrities have this moral
Speaker 2: influence that people care about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and they can go on thinking that as
Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, because it just means it's good
Speaker 1: for Donald Trump, right. But it was the election of
Speaker 1: Trump and what it meant for celebrity I think was
Speaker 1: a real cultural moment in the United States.
Speaker 9: Because of course Harris was just.
Speaker 1: You know, uninspiring, unimpressive, whatever, and so she felt she
Speaker 1: had to surround herself with celebrities to give herself some level.
Speaker 9: Of star power.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, on the other hand, is the ultimate celebrity.
Speaker 1: He is a charismatic politician. Most people know him before
Speaker 1: politics from reality television. Right, he is a celebrity himself.
Speaker 1: He can carry himself, he has personality. Harris was trying
Speaker 1: to make up for that. Now people don't want to
Speaker 1: be lectured by someone else. They want to hear from
Speaker 1: the man or woman.
Speaker 9: Who is trying to sell the message.
Speaker 1: That's what Trump could do that Harris could not, And
Speaker 1: so they still haven't learned that.
Speaker 9: They're still hanging on to it as though it works.
Speaker 1: But I actually to give some credit to Ellen DeGeneres,
Speaker 1: because how many celebrities have we heard say, oh, if
Speaker 1: Donald Trump gets elected, I.
Speaker 9: Am leaving the youth.
Speaker 2: They never follow through.
Speaker 9: Every single one of them is still living there. Well,
Speaker 9: at least Ellen has said I'm going to pack up
Speaker 9: and leave.
Speaker 1: I expect what's happened with her is that her career
Speaker 1: ended a couple of years ago, and she's realized that
Speaker 1: with the election of Donald Trump.
Speaker 9: Her career is even moreover. So she may as well
Speaker 9: go somewhere else and good on her.
Speaker 1: I hope she has a lovely life in England, where
Speaker 1: by the way, she may have some trouble with the
Speaker 1: people who live over there, because I believe she's good
Speaker 1: friends with Megan Markle and Prince Harry. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: how well that'll go down with the people of the UK.
Speaker 2: Well said, well, we're going to take a quick break,
Speaker 2: but when we return inside the Alan Jones criminal charges.
Speaker 2: Welcome back now to the biggest story of the week,
Speaker 2: the arrest of broadcaster Alan Jones of allegations he indecently
Speaker 2: assaulted or sexually touched a number of young men. And
Speaker 2: these allegations are before the courts. There's very little that
Speaker 2: we can say that won't interfere in that process playing out.
Speaker 2: But this was a story driven by journalism, more specifically
Speaker 2: a capemcclimb on investigation and her paper, The Sydney Morning
Speaker 2: Herald was threatened with lawsuits at the time, but they
Speaker 2: did not budge and the police started off their press
Speaker 2: conference this week praising investigators, but when challenged on why
Speaker 2: it took so long to complete the investigation, credit had
Speaker 2: to go to the media.
Speaker 12: The reports in The Herald and the h did result
Speaker 12: in victims coming forward and the creation of Strikeforce Bonovan.
Speaker 12: But this information and a number of witnesses have been
Speaker 12: assisting police over the years. Bonovan and the energy that
Speaker 12: was generated out of those newspaper articles have provided the
Speaker 12: ability for police to put these matters before the court.
Speaker 2: And here is where these stories get very difficul to
Speaker 2: talk about. There wouldn't be chargers or alleged victims coming
Speaker 2: forward in volume without the media. But it is also fair,
Speaker 2: a fair question to ask the police, why did it
Speaker 2: take journalists to push this rather than the police, who,
Speaker 2: by their own admission in that clip, knew about the
Speaker 2: allegations for years. Caleb, Obviously it's before the courts, so
Speaker 2: we're going to be very careful how we talk about it.
Speaker 2: But it was a journalist led story, and there is
Speaker 2: this disconnect so the police saying what we were talking
Speaker 2: to people for several years about it. It never manifested
Speaker 2: in charges, It never manifested in an investigation, particularly of
Speaker 2: the likes we've seen. It kind of shows that the
Speaker 2: role that the journalists play. But maybe now is the
Speaker 2: time for everyone to step back and let that process
Speaker 2: play out.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Correct, And I think even quite a few people from
Speaker 1: the Lift this week in Quintin Dempster from the ABC
Speaker 1: and others. Grace Tame even came out to see if
Speaker 1: you want justice to be done here, don't talk about it.
Speaker 1: Because because a lot of people who are ideologically opposed
Speaker 1: in particular to Alan Jones, have been very quick to
Speaker 1: come out and say that he is guilty. Well, if
Speaker 1: you actually want any sort of conviction to possibly be
Speaker 1: achieved in this case, or for a trial to be
Speaker 1: run in a fair manor you can't go around saying
Speaker 1: those sort of things. I suspect in cases like this
Speaker 1: where the police may well have been investigating a matter
Speaker 1: for a number of years, when you're talking about what
Speaker 1: is largely cases of circumstantial evidence, or you might put
Speaker 1: it as a he said, she said case, you need
Speaker 1: enough evidence to actually go to court and try to
Speaker 1: prosecute someone, and so the media reporting these things will
Speaker 1: naturally encourage people to come forward, and that then allows
Speaker 1: the police to build a case that they could potentially
Speaker 1: go and try to proceed.
Speaker 2: It is an awkward look, though, because you have journalists
Speaker 2: such as say like Hedley Thomas, who specializes in that
Speaker 2: podcast podcast format where he looks at historical things that
Speaker 2: have happened, cases that will never close. I've got a
Speaker 2: feel it's an awkward look for the police. You have
Speaker 2: a journalist on the front page say you've got in
Speaker 2: decent assault and decent assault and decent assault. Know that
Speaker 2: you were talking to an alleged victim but weren't able
Speaker 2: to get it over line yet Kate McClymont, could she
Speaker 2: found the victim she spoke to the people that investigation disconnected.
Speaker 2: It's not a great look for the cops, I.
Speaker 9: Think, yeah.
Speaker 1: And of course the thing with the media is that
Speaker 1: you're dealing with defamation law. Now, defamation law, depending on
Speaker 1: who you ask, is either perfect.
Speaker 9: For these kinds of circumstances or bad.
Speaker 1: Some will say that almost anyone who runs a defamation
Speaker 1: case in this country wins it.
Speaker 9: But also the burden of proof.
Speaker 1: On a defot case is very different to a criminal one.
Speaker 1: It's not beyond reasonable doubt. It's simply on the balance
Speaker 1: of probabilities, which of course played out in the Delerim
Speaker 1: and saga right, And it ends up being murky sort
Speaker 1: of territory between what is a criminal burden of proof
Speaker 1: and what is a civil burden of proof.
Speaker 2: Well, it's true, it's a Bruce esquestion as well. And Damien,
Speaker 2: I'd love to bring you in. What are your thoughts
Speaker 2: on I guess the way that the media in general
Speaker 2: is handling this do you think that there has been
Speaker 2: a bit more caution than perhaps we have seen in
Speaker 2: the past, I guess. And the Bruce Lherman saga with
Speaker 2: Britney Higgins, the anonymity was forfeited by Britney Higgins, which
Speaker 2: complicated the reporting. But in this situation, I think that
Speaker 2: most people have been very respectful in terms of not
Speaker 2: saying either way whether they think that it's guilt or
Speaker 2: whether they think that the charges are a false What
Speaker 2: do you make of how it's played out?
Speaker 7: Yeah, look, I think in the media generally it's been
Speaker 7: pretty good and pretty well handled. Obviously, the victims deserve
Speaker 7: their alleged victims deserve their day in court, and Alan
Speaker 7: Jones deserves his day in court to defend himself. That's
Speaker 7: our system is supposed to work. My concern is what
Speaker 7: happens on social media and the principle of the presumption
Speaker 7: of innocence. And you know, the presumption of innocence doesn't
Speaker 7: come down to regulations or laws or courts enforcing laws
Speaker 7: about what we can say and what we can't say
Speaker 7: on misinformation and disinformation. It comes down to how we
Speaker 7: behave as adults in a civilized country that we've got
Speaker 7: to step back and say to ourselves, Look, I'm not
Speaker 7: going to make jokes about this. I'm not going to
Speaker 7: assume guilt. I'm not going to assume innocence either. I'm
Speaker 7: going to stay completely out of it, and I'm just
Speaker 7: going to watch what unfolds. I respect our court process
Speaker 7: and our criminal justice system, and i want to see
Speaker 7: what happens. And until then, I'm going to shut up.
Speaker 2: But Damien, moving on slightly. Now, what's your story of
Speaker 2: the week for us?
Speaker 7: Well, basically, I was to be concerned about the wonderful
Speaker 7: treasure of Jimbo deciding that he wants to get his
Speaker 7: hands on our savings account as a country, a stray
Speaker 7: has got a sovereign wealth fund, only a little one
Speaker 7: that was set up after they sold I think Telsa
Speaker 7: in a couple of other assets, and instead of spending
Speaker 7: the money, the Howard Costello government decided will stick it
Speaker 7: in the savings account and invest it. And they gave
Speaker 7: it over to investors, professional investors to grow it. And
Speaker 7: it's gone from six billions to two hundred and thirty
Speaker 7: nine billion or something now it's worth, which is great,
Speaker 7: and it produces that obviously income and you know, that
Speaker 7: can help a little bit with government spending. But if
Speaker 7: you go spend the savings, we're in big trouble.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 7: Jimbo's not saying he's going to spend the savings, but
Speaker 7: he is going to direct the way that money's invested
Speaker 7: because he's the best financial investment advisor that the country's got.
Speaker 2: Obviously, Caleb, what do you have for us?
Speaker 1: The splash on today's Gold Coast bulletin is fantastic. Hump
Speaker 1: Tower is the headline. The story of this new apartment
Speaker 1: building that's gone up on the Gold Coast Raptus Towers,
Speaker 1: where it turns out the windows on the bathrooms see through,
Speaker 1: So people in the building's opposite are looking through. They
Speaker 1: say they can see people urinating, showering, and fauna cating.
Speaker 1: How exactly they know the marital status of the people
Speaker 1: having seats in that building, I don't know. Maybe they've
Speaker 1: got the monoculars out, the peeping toms, but so they
Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. They're sitting there, working in their offices
Speaker 1: and they're looking over the way.
Speaker 9: What on earth is going on there?
Speaker 1: And I think you can say that whoever did that
Speaker 1: job certainly rooted it, and it was a bit of a.
Speaker 2: Cock up, Yeah, definitely, and well done to Potsy, a
Speaker 2: good friend of mine who broke that store. It was brilliant.
Speaker 2: Damien Caleb, thank you so much for joining us. Fortunately,
Speaker 2: that's all the time that we have for tonight, but
Speaker 2: we'll be back next Friday at the same time.