WEBVTT - Dally M Award and NRL Title Predictions 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:13.039 Hello Telegraphing podcast on Brent Reed, joined by Pam Whalley. 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:14.800 If Tim we could do? How are we today? 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:17.080 It was a good weekend of footing. 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:19.800 It was Yeah, I'm excited for this Week's such a 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:20.360 huge week. 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:22.640 It's a huge, but it's got a huge It starts 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:25.440 off for the bang with Nelson's saper Solomon and the judiciary. 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:28.280 Tonight he was charged with a grade three carel so 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:30.840 I tackled for that shot on Lindsay Collins on Friday Night. 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:34.000 Do we give him a hope? To give Nelson a hope, 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:36.920 he's got to get a double downgrade, which is basically 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:40.159 unheard of. I think it's happened. Maybe once he's got 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:41.800 to get down to a grade one. Will you watch 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:43.480 it here? What do you think? 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:46.920 I think, no hope. I think they've got to try. 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:50.840 But I think that's a real long shot. 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:53.319 I think they'll get to a downgrade, but then they 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:56.280 get a double down grade. So it's a fine with 0:00:56.400 --> 0:01:02.080 early plea. I don't know whether that will happen. Look, 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:06.560 I still believe if you do the crime, do the time. 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:08.880 Like I hate this this idea, this chat about Oh 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:10.959 it's the Grand Final shouldn't miss a Grand Final and 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.959 his work so hard. Yeah he has, but he's also 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.240 this is the third time he's been charged with a 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.399 careless high tackle this year, so he knew he had 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:20.280 a rap sheet. 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:23.440 And he hit him in the head. 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:27.039 The role has changed the rules to around finals instead 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.959 of origin to lessen the impact. I actually think he's 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:31.880 a chance, you know, because he got a great one 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:33.920 earlier this year. I think for that the one where 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:35.679 he cleaned up. But come he who cleaned up? He 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.080 cleaned up monster in the process, one of his teammates, 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:40.520 and I actually think that one must work like there's 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:42.360 no I don't think there's a swinging arm in this one. 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:44.600 I think this is just Nelson because he's. 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:47.319 So tall that just like dropping his shoulder. 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.080 And I don't even think he's dropped his shoulder. I 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.160 think he's up he's upright because he's so tall, and 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:54.480 Lindy's a big guy as well. But there's no end 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:57.040 of a swinging arm there. I actually think he's an 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:58.080 outside hope here. 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.440 But there's a look I might get a down grad. 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:02.640 Three is ridiculous. 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:05.720 Well for stars, I think he's a chance of getting 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:08.720 a downgrade. But whether whether it's downgraded to the point 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:10.600 where he's free to play in the Grand Final, I 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:11.000 don't know. 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:13.239 And again, he does have priors. 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.480 So that's why he ended up with the charge that 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.040 he did, because it was his third and subsequent offense 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:20.400 this year. And when you actually think about, you know, 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:22.560 because there has been a lot of head high contact 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:24.360 this year. There hasn't been a lot of careless tackles 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.680 on itself, but itself, it's probably not that it's nowhere 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:29.840 near the worst one we've seen. There haven't been that 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.200 many players who have been slapped with a fine that big. 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:34.480 But the reason why he is at this point is 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:35.679 because of his priors. 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:38.080 I reckon he's got a hope. I think they're an 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.720 outside chance. They've got the great nick bar representing him. 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:42.720 He hasn't had. 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:47.000 Again. 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:48.800 No look, yeah, I. 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.840 Look at that and I think, yeah, but maybe not 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:55.960 a grade three. 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:57.000 I think you're there. 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:58.920 Why is with it is? I think Nelson's a bit 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:01.040 of a victim of his own, like he's not the 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:09.920 victim obviously that's because Lindsay got n I don't think 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.120 he's lead with the shoulder. I don't think, as I said, 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:13.800 I don't think there's a swinging arm in it. I 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.160 just think he's upright and Linda's sort of breaks for 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.200 the contact and drop his head a little bit, and 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:19.960 that's why it's contact with the shoulder. 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:21.120 And you've seen a lot of that. 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:25.480 Right, we've been upright where the target hasn't been, you know, 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.440 maybe where it should be. And yes, it is harder 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.880 for somebody like Nelson who's six six, But at the 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:34.359 same time, too, he knows he's sixty six, so there's 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.120 got to be at least some onus, on him and 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.400 every other defender to make sure that their target zone 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.280 is where it should be. And yeah, this is the 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.080 second week in a row where we've had this happen 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.200 from a kickoff. And I don't know whether there is 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.480 a debate to be had about how we deal with 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.640 the kickoff. I don't know if it will solve solve 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:57.280 that problem, get rid of them. I don't believe that, 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:01.320 Like you're a big NFL fans that actually used the kickoffs, 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:04.320 I don't think it'll work. 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.080 I probably couldn't have something similar. 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:10.080 No, I think it's I think it's almost a frail 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:12.600 or complete. It will happen eventually. They're just seeing with 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:15.680 and I don't want it to change either, but I 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:16.880 think it's just the world we live in. 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:16.960 It. 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:20.960 At some point soon in coming years, the kickoff as 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:23.840 we know it will change because we've just seen too 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:24.320 much of this. 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.520 Yeah, it's such a that makes me sad, and like, 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.440 you understand why, but it's such a. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.040 But you know what, the game moves on. We got 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:36.800 rid of the show of the charge was punching. We 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:40.120 basically got with the scrums like life moves on. So 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:43.000 you know, we'll miss it initially, I reckon, but we'll 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:45.599 live to accept it. And eventually there'll be a generation 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:47.320 of people who won't even remember kickoffs. 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:47.919 Yeah. 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.200 It's like there's almost a generation now that don't remember 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:51.799 punching in the game. It only happened. 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:54.359 Yeah, I'm already saying back in my day. 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:56.000 Yeah, exactly, we're getting old. 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:58.719 We're getting old, and maybe it's not a matter of 0:04:58.720 --> 0:04:59.679 getting rid of the kickoff. 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:03.400 Maybe it's a matter of maybe just changing that pressure. 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.920 Not even you know a lot of these incidents happened 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:10.320 when there's three players in the tackle, so maybe it's. 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:11.120 On a kickoff. 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:13.560 Maybe you know it's only two players you're allowed, and 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:15.320 that third is kind of the one that wrestles to 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.600 the ground rather than going in for the big impact hit. 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:18.039 I don't know. 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:21.640 I do think we'll get we'll see a variation. Whether 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.600 they rub it out completely, I'm not sure. 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:27.200 Now. What about this game, the Storm were ridiculously good 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:34.520 again and their spine we're outstanding. Pappenhaus and Harry Jerome 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:37.040 and Cam Munster were just ridiculously good in this game. 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:38.039 I love them. 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:39.080 Yeah, they're so good. 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:43.000 They're so good, and I just think they're also really 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.640 likable as well. I don't know if you guys. Do 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.560 you guys listen to their podcast too. I hate to 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:48.840 plug another podcast, but. 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:49.960 I love it. 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:51.280 It's a computation. 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:55.920 Yeah, they're really funny, Like they just they're very like 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:59.560 they have intelligent conversations. They have great interviews. Yeah, they're 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.080 really good. And then so between them seven. 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:05.680 Tries yeh, triszy. 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.280 Yeah, so they played a different speed. Like the thing 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.240 I noticed about them, they played a different speed to 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.000 everyone else, Like when they get gone, when they get 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.360 a roll on, they're so everything happened. 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.320 So quickly, and they just look like they're just having fun. 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:19.279 They really are. 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.480 They look like they're those kids in you know, under 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.640 twelves and you just give them the ball and they're 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:26.960 like the standout kids on the field and they're just 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:27.760 having a great time. 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.120 Yeah, it's funny to say that because that's how people 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.640 would describe Penrith at the peak of their powers, definitely 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:36.320 loving and enjoining their footy. What really impressed me about 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:40.400 the four on the weekend was the week in Week one, 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:42.880 people saying, you know, Harry absolutely killed that Droone was 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.640 good munster, like ran the house down, but Papenhausen was 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:49.200 a little bit quiet, and then he was just monumental 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:53.520 in this game. So yeah, when you look at that, 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:57.240 I mean, and we've spoken a little bit about it 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.159 off air about you know, how have sort of built 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:04.880 this team and it's around those four big guys, and 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:06.440 it's going to be those guys if they're going to 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:10.640 win on Sunday. You would think that the Spines will 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:12.000 decide who wins on Sunday. 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.640 It's great story Paps because obviously Papinas he has had 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:19.440 that serious injury problems over the years and he's strung 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:21.360 some games to this year we've seen the best of 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:23.680 him again. He's a great story. They've got you know, 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:28.200 he's he's such a good bloke, such. 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:28.000 A nice siding. 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:29.200 Yeah to watch. 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:33.880 So yeah, all those guys have come to form at 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:35.720 the best at the best time. 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:36.600 Cam Munster. 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.240 You know, at one point even Braith and Asta said 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.640 that he reckons will probably play eighty percent fitness for 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:43.560 the rest of the year. It doesn't look like it 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.280 looks like he's one hundred percent fit. So all the 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:48.240 at the end of the day, you do need your 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.360 best players on the field at the right time, and 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.120 the stars feel like they're aligning a bit for Melbourne 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:55.040 and Craig Bellamy. 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:57.560 Speaking of Cameron Monster after the game, and there was 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:00.640 a point this year where he thought by his season 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:03.560 was over. I think it was against was against Paramattery. 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:06.640 It was a combat because I was sidlent for it. 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.200 He looked as he ripped his groin and we all thought, well, 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:10.880 that's the end for him. I mean, he had obviously 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:12.400 need some hip surgery at the end of the year. 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:14.760 But man, when he runs the ball and he is 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:18.200 just focused on running the ball is such a handful. 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:18.520 Yeah. 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.640 His eyes are up, his chest is forward, he's just 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.480 doing whatever kind of comes through his mind in that 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.880 crazy brain of his and it just works. 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:30.200 He's a crazy brain. Yeah, where do you think maybe 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.920 Penrith can get at them an area you think that 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:37.000 maybe the storm vulnerable perabs. 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.080 Honestly after that game. 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:44.040 Between the two Grand finalists, and I know, I think 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:49.120 they're you know, equal odds with the betting agencies. The 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.400 fans can't separate them. But if you're going on form 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:56.040 from the last game, it's probably Melbourne And I can't 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:59.280 really think of where there might be a chink in 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:00.200 there arm at the moment. 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:02.439 Yeah, I think people thought the cheek might be in 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.880 the middle of the field, right, but they're middle. 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:09.400 Of maybe a bit with Nelson, especially that second phase 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:12.040 play which he was really which really helped to go 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:17.840 forward against the Roosters, Well that would be you know, 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:21.000 if he's not there, that would probably be a weakness. 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:22.880 We should touch on the Roosters before we move on 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:27.040 to Penrith. But how do you look at this another disappointment, 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.319 disappointing season. How do you view it? 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.240 I feel like this is no I feel like they've 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:37.120 achieved quite a lot this year, considering the you know, 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.280 the number of injuries and things like that that they had. 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:40.800 I think they gave it. 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:44.199 I think they achieved probably about where they should have 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:44.840 this year. 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.120 Yeah, what do you guys think? 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:52.839 I mean, yeah, I think that's fair, you know, a 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:57.680 top four finish. I think it didn't help that obviously, 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.320 Sam walkin Braden Smith whether I think that probably would 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:01.440 have given them a bit of an edge. 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:01.880 In the finals. 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.120 But I also think there is still a gap between 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.400 you know, the two horse race between you know, Melbourne 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:09.280 and Penrish and the Roosters and Cronola. 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:12.280 So I'm with Pam. 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.760 I don't necessarily, I mean, they would be disappointed, but 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.240 I don't think they necessarily had a disappointing season. 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.120 I mean, were eighty minutes. 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.199 From a Grand Final after losing you know, Brandon Smith 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.319 and Sam Walker on the eve of the final series. 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:27.600 History suggests though that they're miles behind Penrith and Melbourne. 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:29.040 The last There's a lot of teams that a. 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.640 Last twenty two gap, but the public that. 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.360 Has in terms of yes, yeah, yeah. 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.600 And I would think they're they're miles off catching those 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:38.240 two at the moment. And then you consider they lose 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:43.520 Kiri Hargraves Manu Suwa Lee at the end of the. 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.480 Year, but then Sam Walker's out for he went back 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:47.240 till June July. 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.200 He told us we swim out the game. He said, 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.480 hopefully be back by June. Brandon won't be back to 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.320 Lena either. They're going to start next year. They're going 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:56.600 to have to. It's gonna be They're gonna have to. 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.280 The expectation will be that they start well, but it's 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.600 going to be hard. Robber is gonna have to catch 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:02.760 your socks off to do. 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:07.080 We say the word the rebuild. They like them, don't know, 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:08.280 they don't, but the. 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:14.160 Cash it's like Jason Paramount, it's not a rebuild, it's 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:14.840 a reset. 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:16.160 What's the difference? 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:19.000 They reset, you don't rebuild your reset. 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:23.040 But that's still a massive resting the I T guys 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:24.239 tell you to do when something's. 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:30.520 Going wrong exactly. You see them next year being a 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:32.839 threat the Roosters. 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:37.560 Even even with Walker and Smith being out for long periods. 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.480 And yes they have it's the experience void that they leave, right, 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:43.040 They've bottil of experience. But you think about the guys 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:48.640 that are still their Tedesco, Crichton, Victor Radley, they still 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.360 had a pretty decent four pack even with your hard 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:52.880 graves gone. So they've got some of the pieces of 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.440 the puzzle, but they've definitely lost an edge. 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:57.679 I mean Mark comes in. 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:02.240 When you play, you do Chad Townsend coming in the 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.880 question Mark is a starting halves pairing between sand and 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.440 Smith and Chad town that's going to be enough to 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:11.000 carry them to June July, where the season might be. 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.320 Well, that's that's a huge worry for them because, I mean, 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:16.280 Chad was dropped a reserve great up in Townsville at 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:17.560 the end of the year. They have to rely on 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:22.640 him till potentially June and sand and they had a 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.880 good game last week, but on the weekend again he 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:27.200 battled a bit. So that's the concern for them. 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.520 I think do they have enough class I think to 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.200 be able to, you know, to not write them off completely. 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:35.360 But do they go to market? 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:39.400 Is there anyone out there that they because this is 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:41.920 the club right that can just pull off. 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:45.400 Everyone's waiting for them to sign someone. Yeah, But talking 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:48.600 to people there who make those decisions, I don't think 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.880 there's any intention to sign anyone at the moment. 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:52.400 Is that what they're. 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:58.600 So I have spoken to different play agents just in 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:02.679 the course of as and there are rumblings that there 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.880 have been player agents that have been pushing, particularly halves 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:11.040 to them, so whether and the response from the Roosters 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:13.960 has been we're just sort of waiting. It's a matter 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:15.640 of how how long do they wait. 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:17.600 They've been pretty public though, they're going to go with 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:21.240 Walker and sand and Smith, very public about that. So 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:22.680 if they then turn around and. 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:24.240 Sign, they'd be looking. 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:26.280 I mean something that's sort of a stop gap, but 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.600 I don't necessarily mean exactly. I don't necessarily mean something 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:31.560 that's going to come in there. 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.720 They've got Chad, They've signed Chad to fill that role. 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:36.480 Then you go on, Ben Hunt's going to cross sh 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:38.600 eate eight nine hundred thousand dollars because that's what he's 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:41.440 on with the Dragons. I'm sure sure the Dragons aren't 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:43.720 going to chuck in four under Green for Ben Hunt 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.960 to go and play elsewhere because you know, and I 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.440 think Ben hump. The only way Ben Hunt will leave 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:51.839 the Dragons is if he gets another year. On top 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:53.960 of that, the Roosters aren't going to give him another year. 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.600 So I don't see that. I don't see that happening. 0:13:58.080 --> 0:13:59.160 It's interesting, I mean. 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.360 He's Yeah, if you're looking at the kind of players 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:05.400 that they could be looking at ben Hunt is an option, 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:07.280 but whether that actually eventuates I don't think. 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:09.160 Yeah, and it would depend whether or not. 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.120 I think if they thought that they could win a 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.520 premiership next year, if they thought that they could and 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:15.319 they had all of the rest of the bones around 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:19.760 it and they just needed that one, you know, experienced 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.560 half back, then maybe they would. 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:26.080 I'll tell you he doesn't need a halfback Penrith because 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:29.080 there half back's a pretty good player. He was unbelievable 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.560 again on Saturday night. So good, so good. 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:34.600 I don't think I remember a player who's come back 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:38.600 from quite injuries that can play with you mentally like 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:42.600 hamstrings like a dislocate each other or or the rest 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.360 of it, and just come back like he hasn't even 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:45.880 missed a game. 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.680 Yeah. It's incredible mental string. Yeah. 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:50.760 And it's the confidence that he's got in his game. 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:56.160 You know, you just watched him play and Penrith were actually. 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:57.600 Such a decisive moment. 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.760 It was very similar to the charge in the ground 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:03.520 final when you kicked that footy twenty They were on 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:05.000 the back foot and then all of a sudden he 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.120 pretty much single handedly won them the game. And it 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.160 was a bit like that on the weekend. Penro threw 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.600 a little bit off in this game, and I think. 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:14.520 They were almost there for the taking. 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.520 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think the weather maybe played it 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:19.240 a little bit to do with it. But there were 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:20.720 moments there were balls were going. 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.520 To the ground. They looked a little looked a little 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.840 bit disjointed, and I hung, oh, that's interesting. I don't know. 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:29.880 Sometimes they can be guilty of chasing the scoreboard a 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.040 little bit for a team that is such a well 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:36.440 oiled machine and in the past hasn't panicked. I feel 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:38.760 like there were elements of just trying too hard in 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:42.760 this game, but you can never count them out when 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:43.920 you've got anything cleary in that. 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:45.400 It just doesn't take the wrong option. 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:49.400 The clarity that he plays with is I think that's 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:52.000 his biggest asset. That's what sets him apart, is just 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:55.840 how he just makes the right choice no matter what's 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:56.320 going on. 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:58.960 Yeah, And it must be so demoralizing to the other 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:02.320 team when switch flicks in him and he does something 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:04.440 like he now is that forty twenty and you know 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:06.440 he's about to carry the team home, like when you're 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.480 the opposition, And I think that's sort of you know, 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.760 you sort of that's yeah. Their shoulders go down a 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:15.240 little bit after that, So yeah, could. 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.120 You not how could you see that happen and just 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.080 and be like yeah, anything other than oh god, here 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:20.600 we go again. 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:24.280 Yeah yeah, yeah, and well, I mean we just saw 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:28.320 Jerome Leua then the screen. He's been ridiculous, ridiculously good 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:30.880 this season as well. Jerime his last game for the 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:34.360 club this weekend. He's been a penus since he was 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:38.480 could walk, basically local junior. Yeah, local junior. It's a 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:40.960 huge not for him. And we know Jerime he's a 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:43.920 pretty emotional sort of guy. He became monster over the years. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:49.240 Have had their battles, some great battles, some very prickly battles. 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.800 But he's been great, hasn't he. 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:56.840 Yeah, And that's the thing. Not only has you know, 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:01.160 Nathan been great, Lui has been good as their backup 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:04.080 half back as well. So yeah, he's been good. He's 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:08.240 probably had one of his it's hard to say one 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:11.200 of his better season. He's a three time he's a 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:15.560 three time premiership winning five eight but he has absolutely 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:17.560 been in great form. And they've got a number of 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:19.320 players in that side that I think I've gone under 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.080 the radar a little bit this year, like Brian Toe, 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:21.760 who have been. 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:25.480 Been great tie so again, never was a bad game, 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:30.080 Brian Tye. Yeah, still defies belief for me that like 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:34.280 that's short doesn't get exploited more under the high ball. 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:38.160 Well he's yeah, I mean, yeah, he does get out leaped, 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:39.440 but he's always competing. 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:45.160 Yeah, I suppose opposition don't get down there end very often. Yeah, 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:48.040 what about the sharkis I mean they were plucky in 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:51.520 this game, right, They showed a bit of conviction and courage, 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:54.080 but they just lacked a bit of I don't know, 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:55.800 just a little bit of class maybe. 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:59.480 Yeah, they it was they showed a bit of fight 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.560 here obviously to try and make it a little bit like. 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:03.639 It was still a good game. 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.400 I think that they Yeah, they just kind of run 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:08.919 out of steam and it was that mental edge that 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:12.520 Penrith have, right, Yeah, that just takes so much time 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:15.880