1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:04,559 Speaker 1: On scor Lis Oscodia. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: This is the Riata Panalty Show. 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Reata Panalty Show. Coming 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 3: up tonight, Former Treasurer Josh Freidenberg delivers an extraordinary speech 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 3: calling out the Prime minister's week leadership. Nickkata and Louise 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 3: Roberts will join me shortly to discuss that and much more. 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: I'll get Douglas Murray's reaction to the attack in BONDI. 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: C J. 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 4: Pearson will have. 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 3: The latest from the US, including Donald Trump formally suing 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 3: the BBC for five billion. 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 4: Dollars, and Michael. 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 3: Loftis will tell us about Hollywood director Rob Ryaner's tragic murder. 14 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 4: Left is Losing. 15 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 3: It features this young lass who identifies as everything. 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 5: My pronouns are evam, at least that's what I share 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 5: with people most often. But for this particular meeting, I 18 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 5: will come out fully as saying that my pronouns are. 19 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 4: She they him. But first, prim Miss Anthony. 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: He has focused on tighter gun control, he's even warned 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: of the dangers of the far right, but he's failed 22 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: to focus on the real issues of radical Islam, the 23 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 3: importing of hate and the normalization of anti Semitism, including 24 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 3: by his own government. Words matter, So let's look at 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: the words the PM used after the attack and the 26 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: words he omitted. As reported by Frank Chung official transcripts Shaw, 27 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 3: the Prime Minister spoke more than five thousand words publicly 28 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: in the day. 29 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 4: After the attack. 30 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 3: He did not once say the words Muslim Islam or 31 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: Islamic extremism. 32 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 4: He did say this. 33 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 6: Though the Director General of Asia has warned about a 34 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 6: range of threats, but it any Semitism, the rise of 35 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 6: right wing extremist groups as well, and we continue to 36 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 6: work closely with our security agencies. 37 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: And again on Monday night with the ABC, he drew 38 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: attention to the rise of the far right. 39 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 7: The threat of any Semitism, as we have seen, is 40 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 7: very real. Threats of other occurrences, such as the rise 41 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 7: in the far right, which has also been identified of 42 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 7: course by Mike Burgess, is also a threat as well. 43 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: Joining me now is Mensi's Research Center senior fellow Nikata 44 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: and Sky News contributor Louise Roberts. Louise two mentions of 45 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: right wing extremism. There nothing about Islamist motives, Islamic extremism. 46 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 8: That's right, he continues, to conflate you know, far right 47 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 8: with this issue. And I think you can talk about 48 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 8: Islamic extremism without offending the Muslim community, and maybe that's 49 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 8: what he's worried about. It certainly has been suggested in 50 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 8: other areas. But you know, clearly for everyone in the 51 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 8: Jewish community, they know the root cause of this problem. 52 00:02:58,680 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: So for the. 53 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 8: PM to dodger and weave and duck and dive and 54 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 8: not actually address this issue head on is disgraceful. 55 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: Nick. 56 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: It's not just the Prime Minister. We've got the counter 57 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: terrorism the intelligence services that appear to be fixated on 58 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: right wing radicalism as opposed to Islamic radicalism. 59 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 4: In this country. 60 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: Nearly half of the Australian Security Intelligence Organizations investigations last 61 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: year involved what they call mixed ideologies or nationalist and 62 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: racist ideologies. A decade ago, just one in ten of 63 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: asio's cases involved right wing extremist Nick, I wonder whether 64 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: we have taken our eye off the Islamist threat. 65 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 9: Definitely taken our eye off it rita, or rather the 66 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 9: officials have I think on this station, I've heard many 67 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 9: people remind us so that it's still a huge threat. It 68 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 9: is a very well organized international network who set out 69 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 9: to do horrible things in countries like Australia, using people locally, 70 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 9: and that seems to be what happened. But you see, 71 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 9: we have paid, we've taken our eye off the threat 72 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 9: when we allow people to march across Sydney Harbor Bridge 73 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 9: hub Bridge with Jihadis flags, you know, saying horrible hate 74 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 9: things about death, death to the IDF and worse, when 75 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 9: we allow that, when we tolerate that, when our former 76 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 9: Foreign Minister is on the bridge with them, smiling away, 77 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 9: walking in procession, that we've clearly lost the plot. We've 78 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 9: clearly forgotten who the bad guys are. Now we have 79 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 9: to remind ourselves. And I think Anne Onlys is having 80 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 9: trouble because basically he's been pandering to the very same 81 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 9: people who want to push Israel off the map. He has, 82 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 9: he's been gone to the UN, he's supported independent Palestine, 83 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 9: and that's what he's been doing for the last two 84 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 9: years when he should have obviously been standing up for Australia, 85 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 9: standing up for our values and standing up for the 86 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 9: Jewish people in Australia. 87 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: Or Former Treasurer Josh Fredenberg delivered a incredible speech earlier today, 88 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,679 Speaker 3: including a scathing message to the Prime minister have a listen. 89 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 10: Firstly, Prime Minister, ban the hate preachers. On October the 90 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 10: eighth in La Kember, you had Islamic preachers say that 91 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 10: October the seventh was back of courage and pride. When 92 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 10: the Muslim community here's that message for the last two 93 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 10: and a half years. Is this any surprise. 94 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: It's clear the former Treasurer has had enough of the cowardice, 95 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: the moral equivalents and the propaganda. 96 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: I heard. 97 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 10: One of the leading journalists from the ABC say this 98 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 10: has nothing to do with religion. Well, you know what 99 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 10: that is. That's propaganda. We cannot accept people coming to 100 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 10: this country. We cannot accept people staying in this country 101 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 10: who do not subscribe to Australian values. This is a 102 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 10: matter of self defense. 103 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 4: Nick. 104 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 3: It wasn't just the ABC putting that message there. It 105 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 3: even came from law enforcement trying to claim that this 106 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 3: had nothing to do with religion. 107 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 9: Well, it's a weirdly perverted form of religion. Reader, let's 108 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 9: say that. Or he's worried about saying of course he 109 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 9: is worried about saying Muslims. Why doesn't he just say 110 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 9: death cult? You know, there's plenty of other ways to 111 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 9: describe these horrible people and their ideological hatred, not just 112 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 9: to the Jewish people, but of us. I mean, they 113 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 9: would happily if it hadn't have been the Jews who 114 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 9: were in the in focus at the moment because of Israel, 115 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 9: well in Gaza, I'm sure they would be happy to 116 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 9: carry out these attacks against the general Australian population. So yeah, 117 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 9: I mean, let's just let's call it out, because I 118 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 9: don't know who the Prime Minister's talking to, by the way, 119 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 9: read in the Muslim community, because I talked to Muslims 120 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 9: who say they wish the Prime Minister would call this out. 121 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 9: They want nothing to do with this mad mob. They 122 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 9: want to they want to expose this just as heaven, 123 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 9: just as much as you and I do. And the 124 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 9: Prime Minister needs to stand up for the sake of 125 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 9: Muslims to distinguish this very very bad ideological strain which 126 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 9: has been causing death around the world for the last 127 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 9: twenty years or more, to distinguish that from ordinary law 128 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 9: of Muslims who just want to raise their kids, go 129 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 9: to work and do well in this country. 130 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 3: Louise, what we heard from Josh Friedenberg today was the 131 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: sort of clear eyed leadership that we've been lacking. It 132 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: was such a contrast to what we've heard in recent 133 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: days from the Prime Minister and other senior ministers. 134 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 8: Yes, absolutely, and he spoke at length and you could 135 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 8: see the crab were actually enraptured by what he was saying. 136 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 8: They were applaud in just about every point that he made, 137 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 8: and he showed such anger and such passion as well, 138 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 8: the two things we have not seen from the Prime 139 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 8: Minister or Richard Miles or any of the other senior 140 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 8: ministers have been wheeled out to go to you know, 141 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 8: various events and then get heckled because they're not welcome. 142 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 8: There's no sort of passion or anger, particularly from the 143 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 8: Prime Minister, and that's what you really want to see. 144 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 8: He sort of talks very merely mouthed and sort of 145 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 8: clutches his notes and it's all very soft. And terrorists 146 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 8: don't respect that. They respect strength. I mean, you know, 147 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 8: Trump is a perfect example of that. He shows strength, 148 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 8: he shows passion. I just wish we could see this 149 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 8: from the PM. We've seen it from Josh Briedenberg today clearly, 150 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 8: and why hasn't resonated and I was fascinated to see 151 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 8: him actually say that the PM had to take personal 152 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 8: responsibility for the day of the people on the beach 153 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 8: at Bondai, particularly that beautiful little ten year old girl, Matilda. 154 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 8: And when I heard that, I thought, Wow, this is 155 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 8: a man who's very angry and actually he's articulating what 156 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 8: a lot of Australians, very disappointed Australians are feeling about this. 157 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 8: In this vacuum of leadership we now have. 158 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: Well, Nick, where is the Prime Minister, Where is Penny Wong? 159 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: Why aren't they they're delivering speeches like that, or delivering 160 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 3: whatever it is they want to say. You could argue, well, 161 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 3: the Prime Minister wouldn't be welcome there, as Josh Fredenberg 162 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 3: obviously is. 163 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 4: But so what we saw John. 164 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 3: Howard be be present and speak up after Port Arthur 165 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: in crowds where he wasn't welcome, but he had the 166 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: strength and the conviction to be there. 167 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 4: That's what we need from our Prime minister right now. 168 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 4: We need him to be there to show he cares. 169 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: It's not about getting a good reception from the local 170 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: it's about showing that he's. 171 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 4: Got their back. 172 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: He knows what he's doing, and he's going to keep 173 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: them safe going forward. 174 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 9: He's completely lacking in moral courage rita, and we've seen 175 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 9: that over the last few days. I think he's also 176 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 9: lacking in some intellectual firepower, you know, the thing that 177 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 9: tells you this is just horrible, this is wrong. This 178 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 9: is the Jewish people who went through the Holocaust, who 179 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 9: came here for safety. You know, I can't help thinking 180 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 9: about that eighty seven year old man who fled Ukraine 181 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 9: to get away from the anti Semitism of Hitler, injured, 182 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 9: having to go through Siberia with his mother, nearly freezing 183 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 9: to death and nearly starving to death, gets to Australia 184 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 9: and then he's shot on Bondou Breach Beach by Jahadist 185 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 9: on a Sunday afternoon. It is just horrible. How do 186 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 9: we let this happen to our country? Can the Prime 187 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 9: Minister stand up and tell us how he is going 188 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 9: to get back the country that I moved to in 189 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 9: nineteen eighty nine, that I came because I loved it. 190 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 9: It was peaceful, safe, everybody got on, Everybody got on 191 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 9: with their neighbors. There was no racial hatred or anything. 192 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 9: All this has happened recently, and it is accelerated under 193 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 9: this prime ministership. Nearly four thousand attacks on Jews since 194 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 9: October seven, four thousand, that's five a day, and they're 195 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 9: any of the registered ones. Can't you just see what's 196 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 9: happened to this country and stand up for our country 197 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 9: and the people who live here, all the people who 198 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 9: live here Jewish, Muslim I don't care. Stand up for 199 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 9: this country. 200 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 3: Now, Australia's week leadership is drawing attention in the US. 201 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: Have a look at this clip from Sean Hannity on 202 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: Fox News. 203 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,599 Speaker 11: Australia's government largely turned a blind EyeT to this horrific, 204 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 11: unacceptable behavior and continued to welcome hardline Islamis into their country. 205 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: This is insane. 206 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 11: In other words, nothing in Australia is going to change 207 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 11: while he is their leader, Louise. 208 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: This is getting attention around the world and people are shocked. 209 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: I know, Jews around the world are absolutely appalled by 210 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 3: what's happening in Australia. They don't see Australia as a 211 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 3: safe place for Jews any longer. And I think that 212 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 3: is just a national disgrace. 213 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 8: It is a national disgrace and the fact that you know, 214 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 8: someone like Sean Hannery has a huge reach, is very influential, 215 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 8: lots of contacts at all levels of government. The fact 216 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 8: that he's mocking mister Albaneze in this way and saying 217 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 8: nothing will change. Basically Jewish people will not feel safe 218 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 8: while he is leader. I mean it's absolutely eviscerating and humiliating. 219 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 8: But I mean maybe it doesn't impact the p and 220 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 8: maybe he doesn't care about that sort of stuff. I 221 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 8: don't know, but I watched that thought. Ouch, that's brutal 222 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 8: and also accurate to be honest. 223 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, Nick, that's why it hurts because every word 224 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 3: you just heard was one hundred percent accurate. That's that's 225 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 3: why it's powerful. 226 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 4: Nick Kata. 227 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 3: Luis Roberts, thank you so much for your time tonight, 228 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 3: joining me now. Is the author of international best sellers, 229 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: including his latest work on democracies and death cults. 230 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 4: Douglas Murray. 231 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 3: The Islamic State inspired Bondy terrorist attack has devastated this country. 232 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: It shocked the world, but the local Jewish community here 233 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 3: in Australia say they're not surprised. 234 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 4: They saw this coming. 235 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 12: Yes, I think they saw it coming, and many people 236 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 12: saw it coming. 237 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: I was in Australia last last year. 238 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 12: I spoke to people in the Jewish community, as many 239 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 12: other communities, and it was perfectly obvious that there was 240 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 12: going to be a boiling point reached in Australia because 241 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 12: the Australian authorities have decided to allow incitement to murder 242 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 12: to go on on Australia's streets for more than two 243 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 12: years now. They have been utterly incapable of doing anything 244 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 12: or seeming to want to do anything. When people stand 245 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 12: outside Sydney Opera House forty eight hours after the largest 246 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 12: mask of Jews since the Holocaust and call in large 247 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 12: numbers in the center of Sydney for the Jews to 248 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 12: be gassed, the Australian authorities didn't seem to mind that. 249 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 12: They didn't seem to mind when week after week people 250 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 12: called for into Farda, which is violent terrorist attacks to 251 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 12: be globalized and brought two places like Australia. They didn't 252 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 12: mind that when that was called for on Australian streets 253 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 12: in cities. I saw the protests myself last year in 254 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 12: Sydney and Melbourne across Australia. 255 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: The authorities didn't. 256 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 12: Seem to mind that and lo and behold into Fada 257 00:14:55,040 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 12: came to Australia in the acts of these two discussed individuals, 258 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 12: acting it seems, in the name of the Islamic State, 259 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 12: but they could have been acting for any jihadist group. 260 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 12: They could have been like the people who have previously 261 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 12: sought to carry out attacks in Australia on behalf of 262 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 12: the IRGC, one of the terrorist wings of the terrorist 263 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 12: government in Tehran. All of this was completely to be expected. 264 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 12: You didn't have to be Jewish to notice it. But 265 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 12: of course Jews noticed it first because it was their 266 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 12: places of worship that have been firebombed in the last 267 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 12: couple of years. It's Jewish businesses that have been attacked 268 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 12: and boycotted. So yes, this is both completely shocking and 269 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 12: appalling and at the same time completely unsurprising. 270 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 3: Now the focus from our Prime Minister in the aftermath 271 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 3: of this terrorist attack has been gun control. We've already 272 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 3: got some of the toughest gun laws anywhere in the 273 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: world and Douglas, as we've seen in the UK, we've 274 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: seen in France and elsewhere. Terrorist don't need guns to 275 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 3: inflict carnage. 276 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: No they don't. 277 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 12: I mean in Manchester just last month in Manchester, England, 278 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 12: a jihadist decided to attack a synagogue using his car. 279 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: And then a knife. So no, it's not about guns. 280 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 12: And Albanizi and others just demonstrate their unbelievable weakness and 281 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 12: their total inadequacy for the roles that they've assumed or 282 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 12: been voted into when they say things like this. There's 283 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 12: a set of ways very weak politicians like I'm sorry 284 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 12: to say your Prime. 285 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: Minister in Australia do at times like this. 286 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 12: But what they never address these week leaders across Western 287 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 12: countries is the obvious thing, which is, how abouts to 288 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 12: do with homegrown radicals and people who are imported who 289 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 12: are radical. How About it's that you have in arms 290 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 12: in Australia calling for g HAD. How About it's you 291 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 12: have extremist Islamist groups who are allowed to operate and 292 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 12: incite violence. And how about it's the fact that you 293 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 12: allow every week at least thousands of thousands of people 294 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 12: to call for Interfara, to call for g HAD, to 295 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 12: call for violence in Australia. What do these political leaders 296 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 12: think They're going to stop everyone from being allowed to 297 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 12: buy knives. They're going to try to crack down on 298 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 12: Australians even more of being allowed to own guns. It's 299 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 12: just preposterous and this is what weak leaders do. I 300 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 12: remember after the London terrorist attacks in twenty seventeen, Theresa 301 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 12: May and co. Said this is about online radicalization. You 302 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 12: and I have talked about before, Rita, but just to 303 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 12: be in the middle of this will once again and 304 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 12: for the Prime Minister to think this is about guns 305 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 12: is as preposterous as thinking that the nie attack in 306 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 12: France was about truck ownership. 307 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, as well said, And there was a fantastic news 308 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 3: report yesterday showing the Australian Prime Minister spoke more than 309 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 3: five thousand words in press conferences and interviews statements in 310 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:30,239 Speaker 3: the day after the Bondeitera attacked, and yet Douglas, in 311 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 3: more than five thousand words, he did not once say 312 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: the word Islamist, Islamic extremism, Muslim Islam. But he did 313 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 3: raise the threat of right wing extremist groups twice, Douglas twice. 314 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 3: It is just a topic that they don't want to tackle. 315 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: Of course, because very very weak leaders do that. 316 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 12: If there's something they can't deal with, they decide to 317 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 12: go on to some other problem. You'll notice I imagine it. 318 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 12: We'll get more in the days ahead about the need 319 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 12: to tackle antisemitism, Islamophobia and all other forms of extremism 320 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 12: and prejudice, and how we have to stamp out hate 321 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 12: and all this sort of thing. 322 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 1: This is pure words, pure words. 323 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 12: Was blood spilt on the sands of Australia is a 324 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 12: pure words, And you know it can be better. President 325 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 12: Trump today in Washington made some remarks so I was there, 326 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 12: in which he referred to the appalling attack this past 327 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 12: weekend in Australia, and President Trump said, this is why 328 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 12: we need to tackle the evils of antisemitism and radical Islam. 329 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: Now, why cannot why can't the. 330 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 12: Prime Minister of Australia say something like that? Why can't 331 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 12: he identify what this was? You know, I just wrote 332 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 12: a piece that just came out to a city journal 333 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 12: in which I mentioned a it's worth just lingering for 334 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 12: a moment if I may read it. On this comparison, 335 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 12: Six years ago, a lone gunman went and massacred some 336 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 12: Muslims in New Zealand, and it was an absolutely appalling attack, 337 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 12: and the whole world was united in its unbelievable horror 338 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 12: of what that lone gunman did. Imagine if forty eight 339 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 12: hours after the New Zealand mosque attack, thousands of people 340 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 12: on Australian streets had come out to celebrate the massacre. 341 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 12: Imagine if forty eight hours after the New Zealand attack 342 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 12: and christ Church, hundreds and hundreds of Australians called for 343 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 12: more Muslims to be massacred. 344 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: Imagine if every. 345 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 12: Single day and week for the next two years, every 346 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 12: single city in Australia was brought to a halt by 347 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 12: people calling for more massacres like that at the mosque 348 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 12: in christ Church. Do you think that the Prime Minister 349 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 12: of Australia would use this pabulum? Do any of us 350 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 12: think that the Australian authorities would have allowed that to 351 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 12: have gone on? If for two years Muslim businesses and 352 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 12: Muslim places of worship had been attacked on a monthly 353 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 12: and weekly sometimes basis in Australia, would Albanese have decided 354 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 12: that that was all fine as well? These are questions 355 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 12: that we need to ask because we all know what 356 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 12: the answer to that is. No, Absolutely, he wouldn't. None 357 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 12: of that would have been accepted. No, if people in 358 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 12: the Muslim community whilst that was going on, were saying 359 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 12: we can't worship without people fire bombing our places of worship. 360 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 12: I would imagine that everyone would say something about this 361 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 12: and say it's not just the problem for Muslims. I mean, 362 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 12: why is it the case that the Australian government has 363 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 12: allowed this for these years. It's not like the Australian 364 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 12: government is some free speech absolutist entity. I gave an 365 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 12: example in my City Journal piece of Hillel Fuld, who 366 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 12: lost his brother in Israel some years ago to a 367 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 12: ga Is the terrorist, and whose brother, in his last 368 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 12: moments saved many lives by managing to kill the terrorists 369 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 12: before he died himself. Hillel Fuld, who lost his brother 370 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 12: to a g had this thought to come to Australia 371 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 12: last summer and was barred from entry by the Australian authorities. No, no, no, 372 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 12: the Australian authorities didn't bar those government. No, but they 373 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 12: did bar the brother of a victim of terrorism who 374 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 12: was going to come to Australia and might might have 375 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 12: said something that could have offended pro terrorism people in Australia. 376 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 12: So the brother of a terrorist victim was barred from Australia. 377 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 12: This is the Australian government's speech standards. This is the 378 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 12: standards of the Australian government, the bureaucracy. 379 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 3: Just on Australia's political response. Where among the countries that 380 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: have recognized the Palestinian state, We've had anti Israeli rallies, 381 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 3: as you've said, in our capital cities for more than 382 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 3: two years. We've had Zionism really demonized, and hate towards 383 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 3: the Jewish community has been normalized. 384 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 4: And many blame. 385 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 3: Australia's foreign policy for emboldening that hatred. 386 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 4: Douglas, do you see it that way too? 387 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: Well, it's not the primary reason. 388 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 12: I mean, Frankly, Australia, like Britain and most European countries, 389 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 12: has no significant role in the Middle East. Nobody listens 390 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 12: to any of them anyway, because why would they. 391 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,719 Speaker 1: But you know, it certainly doesn't help, does it. 392 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 12: I mean again, there's an invasion of Israel by Palestinian 393 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 12: terrorists in October twenty twenty three, and the Australian government 394 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 12: is one of the governments foolish enough to decide to 395 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 12: reward the Palestinian terrorists by giving them yet another state, 396 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 12: or claiming that they can give them yet another state, 397 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 12: when in fact, of course, they have no ability to 398 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 12: do so whatsoever. Of course, the Australian government, like other 399 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 12: European governments and others, they pandered to these mobs. Because 400 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 12: of these mobs, as I say, I've seen them, you've 401 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 12: seen them, We've all seen them in Australia, I keep 402 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 12: on ratcheting up the pressure and they make these obscene 403 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 12: claims like Israelis are committing genocide in Gaza as opposed 404 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 12: to fighting a very brutal war which the Palestinians started. 405 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 12: And you know, as a result of this, yes, the 406 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 12: Australian government, like so many other. 407 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: Governments, has just pandered to the extremists. 408 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 12: I would if Australia had been invaded by an army 409 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 12: of some four thousand terrorists a couple of years ago, 410 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 12: you know, Rita, it wouldn't matter to what the cause 411 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 12: of those people was. 412 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: It wouldn't matter. 413 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 12: I wouldn't give them what they wanted after massacring Australia. 414 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: Would I wouldn't give what they wanted. 415 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 12: I would decide that, in fact, we didn't make our 416 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 12: policy foreign or domestic at the barrel of a gun, 417 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 12: or on the orders of mass rapists. 418 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: And so on. 419 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 12: It's a stupid thing that the Australian government did, and 420 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 12: it's grandiose and ignorant. 421 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: And much more. The crucial thing is that they rewarded terrorism. 422 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 12: But the people who seem to want a Palestinian state 423 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 12: the least of the Palestinians because they've had eighty years 424 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 12: to have a state and instead they keep on just. 425 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: Waging war on their neighbors. But I mean, no, this 426 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: whole thing. 427 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 12: It's pandering its weakness by the Australian government like other 428 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 12: governments in the West, and it's just it's so sickening. 429 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: Reto. I don't need to tell you. It's just so 430 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: sickening to. 431 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 12: See Australians on a beach being gunned down when none 432 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 12: of this had to happen, and if you had a 433 00:25:55,160 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 12: sensible government and sensible policies, none of this blood would 434 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 12: have been spilled. 435 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 3: And I think that's why there's such anger in the 436 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:11,479 Speaker 3: Jewish community, because after every terrorist attack we've seen around 437 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: the West, we're told to not look back in anger 438 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 3: and diversity is our strength. 439 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 4: We must just come together. 440 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 3: But those words seem like just empty platitudes and they're 441 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 3: not working. This time Douglas. The Jewish community is angry. 442 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: They feel betrayed by our political leaders. 443 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 12: But it's not just the Jewish community Reta, I mean 444 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 12: it's everybody. Everybody in Australia has been betrayed, just as 445 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 12: everyone in Britain has been betrayed, just as everybody in 446 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 12: France has been betrayed. We've been betrayed by leaders who 447 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 12: make very very bad decisions and then expect the rest 448 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 12: of us to live with the consequences of them. Yes, 449 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 12: on a number of occasions, in particularly the last two years, 450 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 12: with the massive upsurge anti Semitism, Jews have been at 451 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 12: the absolute forefront of suffering this. But you know, the 452 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 12: people who carry out attacks on Jews, they don't like 453 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 12: Australia either. 454 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: They hate Australia as well. 455 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 12: They happen to hate the Jews first, but they hate 456 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 12: Australia as well. Find an Australian patriot among the pro 457 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 12: Isis groups in Australia, Yes, find a wonderful typical Ossie 458 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 12: among any of the imams and hate preachers who've been 459 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 12: calling for the destruction of Israel and the downfall of 460 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 12: the West in recent years. You know, find me a 461 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 12: decent patriot. Among those people, you won't find them anymore 462 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 12: than you will among the people calling for the same things. 463 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: In Canada, America, Britain, Europe. 464 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 12: It's it's it's such. It seems like such a cliche, 465 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 12: but it's still the truth. Sometimes just cliches are cliches. 466 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: Because they're true. 467 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 12: But yes, very often the Jewish and he gets this 468 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 12: kind of hatred and violence first, but they never last. 469 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 12: It's everybody else next. 470 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: And I feel so dismayed and. 471 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 12: Full of just horror about these events because, Frankly Reto, 472 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 12: as you know better than anyone, so many of us 473 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 12: have warned about this. It's not just the Jewish community, 474 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 12: many people in the Jewish community, but many others as well, 475 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 12: including some brave figures from the Muslim community. Is too few, 476 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 12: but some, and they've warned, and they've said that the 477 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 12: radicalization within parts of the Muslim communities has got. 478 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: Out of control. And you know, so many people warned. 479 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: It wasn't just Jews. 480 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 12: So many people warned, and so many people were ignored, 481 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 12: and so many people's lives would have been saved if 482 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 12: those people hadn't been ignored. 483 00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 3: Absolutely, we've all been betrayed. By our wake ladies. Douglas, Mary, 484 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 3: thank you so much for your time. Tonight, gilt Car 485 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 3: Matt left He's losing it past the latest from the US, 486 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 3: including Donald Trump formally suing the BBC for five billion dollars. 487 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 13: C J. 488 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 3: Pearson has the details. You're watching the Reader Panny Show 489 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 3: and it's time for lefties losing it And you know 490 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 3: the view has become a national and international joke when 491 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 3: the finest TV series produced in recent years makes the 492 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 3: program the butt of its jokes. 493 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: What do you need? 494 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 14: I don't know what to do. 495 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 7: We'll shit do whatever. 496 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 14: You want to read a book and watch TVV were 497 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 14: in daytime talk shows. You don't like the view or something? 498 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 14: What's the view? 499 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 7: What you pissed off men about? 500 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 14: How much do they hate millionaires and Trump and man 501 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 14: and you and me and everybody else? I gotta be 502 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 14: up there ass about. It's pretty funny, Bill Trump funny. 503 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 14: I ain't jokes like Park Church by you, tund funny. 504 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 14: Either depends on your proximity to the fart. 505 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 4: That was the series. 506 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 3: Landman second season is out now, don't miss it. I 507 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 3: love how they described the view a bunch of pissed 508 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 3: off millionaires bitching about how much they hate millionaires and 509 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 3: Trump and men. That's a very good description from Billy 510 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 3: Bob Thornton, whoever wrote that line for him. 511 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 4: Now Living up. 512 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 3: To the worst stereotype of the program was host will 513 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 3: Be Goldberg, who went on an angry, unhinged rant full 514 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 3: of lies that she then had to apologize for. 515 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 4: Let's hear a little. 516 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: Bit of her tantrum, her on air tantrum, which was 517 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 3: the course aimed at Donald Trump. 518 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: Have you no shame? 519 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 13: No shame at all? This is Can you get any lower? 520 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 13: I don't think so. And what do you have to 521 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 13: say about what's happened around the world? Where is our 522 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 13: voice as Americans? Somebody's got to speak up for us. 523 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 13: Our hearts are breaking through all of this, through Rob, 524 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 13: through what's happened at Bondai Beach, what happened at Brown 525 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 13: And you don't find the time to say, as Americans, 526 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 13: we hate what's happening. You ain't my president. Man. 527 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 4: We'll be right back. 528 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 3: Oh they were right back or right, and Whoopee was 529 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 3: forced to correct her lies. 530 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 4: How humiliating. 531 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 13: I'm gonna make a correction here. As it turns out, 532 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 13: yesterday apparently you know who put his condolences out to 533 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 13: the people who are looking down at us from heaven 534 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 13: and the folks at Brown. 535 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 4: She say, you know who. 536 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 3: She can't even bring herself to say President Trump's name. 537 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 3: She's a child reading Harry Potter and unable to save Voldemort. 538 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 3: But even as she corrected her lies and confirmed that 539 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 3: President Trump had shared condolences for the shootings at Brown 540 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 3: University and the Islamist terror attack at Bondi Beach, she 541 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 3: still had more vitriol. 542 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 2: My bad. 543 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,719 Speaker 13: You did say something, not what I would like to 544 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 13: have heard from you, but you did do it, So 545 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 13: there you go. 546 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 3: Let's hear now from Nashville Councilwoman Delicia Porterfield giving a vacuous, 547 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 3: meaningless land acknowledgment and then taking it one step further 548 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: and claiming that illegal immigration is not even a thing 549 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 3: because everyone. 550 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 4: Is illegal on stolen land. Where did they find these people? 551 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 15: Good evening everyone, Today is December of the fourth. I 552 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 15: want to start by acknowledging that this meeting is being 553 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 15: healed on the unseated stolen land of the Cherokee, shiny 554 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 15: and Uchi people, and to remind you that no one 555 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 15: is illegal on stolen land. Built by stolen labor. 556 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 3: Now this next dude may be in a dress, but 557 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 3: he knows precisely who and what he is and is 558 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 3: not obsessed with policing other people's speech or playing the victim. 559 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 4: This is how it should be. 560 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 16: It is having a penis make you any loss of 561 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 16: a woman. 562 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: I will never lose my penis. 563 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 16: I'm not gonna do no surgery. 564 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 2: Are you a woman? 565 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 14: No'm I'm a kind of penis man. 566 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 2: I'm a man. 567 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: What is a woman? 568 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 14: A real woman is one that's got a vagina on it. 569 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 14: But I'm a cross dresser. 570 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: I'm a man. 571 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 2: I'm a man. 572 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 6: I really am. 573 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 2: So you're not a woman. 574 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 17: I am not a woman, and I don't clim to 575 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 17: be a woman, and I don't want to be a woman, 576 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 17: and I have. 577 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 4: No concern reason well said sir. 578 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 3: Now contrast that with this next last. I say last 579 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 3: because it is a war. But she goes by multiple pronouns, 580 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 3: in fact all of them. 581 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 4: It's a bit grady. 582 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 5: My pronouns are they them? Or at least that's what 583 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 5: I share with people most often. But for this particular meeting, 584 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 5: I will come out fully as saying that my pronouns 585 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 5: are she they him. 586 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 3: Now listen to this lefty losing it, reportedly a nurse, bright, 587 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 3: a poor worker just doing her job at Target. She 588 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 3: launches the most vile verbal attack on this worker, who 589 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 3: somehow manages to remain calm and polite. 590 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 18: Do you let you wear that shirt? 591 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 8: Shirt? 592 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:34,720 Speaker 4: Yes? 593 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 18: So? 594 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 4: Why are you taking to my picture? 595 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:39,720 Speaker 14: Why are you wearing that shirt? 596 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 18: You're working? It's not a Target hair shirt. 597 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 4: I can wear red, any red shirt. 598 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 18: It's not a plane shirt. It doesn't have to be 599 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 18: so Charlie kirkshirt. Yes, oh yes, I know. 600 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 8: Stupid. 601 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 18: No, why do you wear that You're at work at Target? 602 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 18: That's not a Target shirt. It's not a plain red shirt. 603 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 2: You support a racis and it's not racist. 604 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 18: You support Arasis. Yes he is. Yes, I'm here and 605 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 18: arguing you're not. You should go get your manager. You 606 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 18: should not be allowed to wear the artwork. Unacceptable, unacceptable, 607 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 18: that's your The opinion is he's the faces and you 608 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 18: support him and you shouldn't be. You should not be 609 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 18: allowed to wear that. This is going to be taken 610 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 18: above your that's insane and scene. 611 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 9: And peace. 612 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 3: That woman deserves a go fund me page for putting 613 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 3: up with that and that nurse should never work again, 614 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 3: not with people anyway. Now, let's go to the failed 615 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 3: city of Minneapolis in the once great state of Minnesota 616 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 3: before it became known for crime, fraud and gum. 617 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 4: A tampon Tim Wolls. 618 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 3: But Wolls is not the only inept clown in the stage. 619 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 4: We're about to hear from the stupidly. 620 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,959 Speaker 3: Woke Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara, who seems to think 621 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 3: imposing the law, imposing immigration law is akin to persecuting 622 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 3: baby Jesus. 623 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 17: It cannot help but think of what is happening in 624 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 17: our city today and how that echoes with how outsiders 625 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 17: have been treated for thousands of years, how Mary and 626 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 17: Joseph themselves were considered outsiders and forced to stay in 627 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 17: a barn. That's what we're getting ready to commemorate as 628 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 17: Christians around the world while all of this fear is 629 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 17: happening right here in our town. 630 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 3: Joining me now is the RNC Youth Advisory Council co CHAIRCJ. 631 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 4: Pearson. CJ. What's your response to that? 632 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 16: You know, I'm speechless, and I'm never speechless, so it 633 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 16: doesn't I don't even honestly believe the words that came 634 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 16: out of his mouth. You know, those in the left 635 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 16: love to quote the Bible when it's convenient, but they 636 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 16: never quote the Bible when it comes to muiliating the 637 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 16: generals of children. Never quote the Bible when it comes 638 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 16: to there being only two genders. They never quote the 639 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 16: Bible when it comes to actually believing in the basic 640 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 16: premises of the text. But when it comes to allowing 641 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 16: unfettered illegal immigration to our country, they all of a 642 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 16: sudden become theologians. 643 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 2: It's quite interesting to me. 644 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 16: But here's the deal. When it comes to this, if 645 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 16: these police officers are more focused on actually going after 646 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 16: real criminals and violent crime and instead not defending violent 647 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 16: criminal realiens, maybe the state of Minnesota would be a 648 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 16: lot safer safer and people would be moving into the 649 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 16: state and not running for the hills. 650 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 3: Now, say Jay, let's talk about the media and the 651 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 3: talk in DC today is all about that vantishy piece. 652 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 3: But before we dive into that one, President Donald Trump 653 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 3: has officially sued the BBC for five billion dollars. He's 654 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 3: described the British broadcasters editing of his speech as deceptive 655 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 3: and inflammatory. 656 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 4: Let's have a look. 657 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 3: At just how deceptive the BBC was We're going. 658 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 12: To walk down to the capital and I'll be there 659 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 12: with you. 660 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 2: And we fight. We fight like hell. We're going to 661 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 2: walk down to the capital. 662 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 17: And we're going to cheer on our brave. 663 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 2: Senators and congressmen and women. 664 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. 665 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 4: Just the subtle difference there, ZJ. 666 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 3: The President has had fantastic success suing media companies for 667 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,760 Speaker 3: their deliberate lives. Has had big wins against mainstream media 668 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 3: including ABC and CBS, and also social media giants like 669 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 3: the meta Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Now X does he 670 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 3: do you expect him to have another big win here? 671 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 3: Five billion dollars is an extraordinary sum to be seeking. 672 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 16: Well, reader, based on that track record, I certainly would 673 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 16: embed against him. You know, this is a guy who 674 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 16: has quickly become the f around and find out president. 675 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 16: For some reason, all these people seem so eager to 676 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 16: find out. It seems as if BBC is something going 677 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 16: to be nags in that list. 678 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 3: Now, let's talk about that story dominating DC today and 679 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 3: beyond DC. It's going to be said it's a Vanity 680 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 3: Fair profile on White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles. 681 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 4: She has slammed Vanity Fair. 682 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 3: Accused the reporter Chris Whipple of writing a disingenuously framed 683 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 3: hit piece. She also said significant context was disregarded and 684 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 3: much of what I and others said about the team 685 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 3: and the president was left out of the story. Well, duh, lady, 686 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 3: my question see why in God's name would Susie Wiles 687 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 3: any person in the Trump administration trust a media outlet 688 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 3: like Vanity Fair. 689 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 4: I mean, this is an own goal, you know. 690 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 16: I think sometimes you're a little you have a little 691 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,840 Speaker 16: of optimism, and probably you see people better than what 692 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 16: they actually are. And so I think looking at this 693 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 16: story with Vanity Fair, Vandy Fair will be Vanity Fair, 694 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 16: but I think it's still deceitful, and it's obvious what 695 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,760 Speaker 16: their goal was to be here. They're trying to divide 696 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 16: the most effective chief of staff we've seen in probably 697 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 16: American history from president who's been incredibly effective. But fake 698 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,439 Speaker 16: narratives don't actually distort real results, and what we've seen 699 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 16: in this president are exactly that, results that have been 700 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 16: executed by a very competent chief of staff. You know, 701 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 16: I think this was an unfortunate situation by deceitful journalists 702 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 16: who sought more to make himself the story in the 703 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 16: headline than actually portray the truth of what an incredible 704 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 16: leader Susie Willis has been. 705 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 3: Well again, I think he can't be that naive. You 706 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 3: know how these media atlets operate, you know, the individual 707 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 3: journalist and their ideology. It's quite often very public. And 708 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 3: you've put yourself in that position. I think it's got 709 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 3: to be on you. I mean, some of the comments 710 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,800 Speaker 3: that have been attributed to the President's chief of staff 711 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 3: include the claim that President Trump, who is a teetotler, 712 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 3: he's never had alcohol. She described him as someone with 713 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 3: an alcoholics personality, and she said the Vice President JD. 714 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 3: Vance has been a conspiracy theorist for a decade. Now, 715 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 3: I understand the context around that is missing CJ. 716 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 4: But it doesn't look great. 717 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 17: Yeah. 718 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 16: I think contact is definitely missing there. And I think 719 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 16: when she referred to the President as having a little 720 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 16: bit of an alcoholic personality, she meant that he was 721 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 16: obsessive about putting wins on the on the table for 722 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 16: the American people. And I think he's done exactly that. 723 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 16: When it comes to ged Vance, we can speak theorists. 724 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 16: I think I often say, is the conspiracy the conspiracy 725 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 16: theorists of today? The truth tellers of tomorrow, and I 726 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 16: think Jay evanstro being proven right about a lot of 727 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 16: the things that were once conspiracy theories. They're now just 728 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 16: matters of fact today. And so, you know, a lot 729 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 16: of these quotes, I think we can't take them at 730 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,919 Speaker 16: face value just because of how deceitful we know left 731 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 16: wing publications like The Vanity Fair to be. But I 732 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 16: think that this White House has certainly probably learned its 733 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 16: lesson not just from the quotes, but from the photographs. 734 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 16: I think the photographs were one of the things that 735 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 16: actually really caught my eye just. 736 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 2: How deceitful they are. 737 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 16: You know, you see a picture of Kalleen John Peter 738 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 16: in a previous article that they did about her, where 739 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 16: she looks like a supermodel Tyra Banks even maybe right, 740 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 16: but Caroline Levitt, they absolutely edited to make it look 741 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 16: just unlike her. And I've seen Caroline Levin in person 742 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 16: many many times. She does not look like any of 743 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 16: the photos that I saw come out of this article. 744 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 16: It's absolutely deceitful in every way whatsoever. 745 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 3: Well, I'm not shocked because when they put together a 746 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 3: hit pace, it's comprehensive. 747 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 4: It's not just the framing of the story. 748 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 3: It's not just what they deliberately exclude, but it's the pictures. 749 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 4: It's the images, it's the captions, it's the whole lot. 750 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 4: That's why you do not trust these people. 751 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: C J. 752 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 4: Pearson, thank you for your time. 753 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,879 Speaker 1: Tonight, Thanks for having me. Good us here you still 754 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 1: to come. 755 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 3: My Hollywood director Rob ryaner is tragic murder, allegedly at 756 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 3: the hands of his own son. Michael Lofters has the details. 757 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 4: Welcome back. 758 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 3: Joining me now is writer and comedian Michael Lofters. 759 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 4: Michael. 760 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 3: Earlier this week, film director Rob Rayner and his wife 761 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 3: Michelle were found dead in their Los Angeles home. Los 762 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 3: Angeles prosecutors have charged the couple's son, Nick Reiner, with 763 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 3: two counts of murder. What more can you tell us 764 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,240 Speaker 3: about this tragic case? 765 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 2: I don't I don't really know. 766 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,839 Speaker 19: And it's and it's hard to even take any kind 767 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 19: of stance on it right now because every time you 768 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 19: turn around, there's some. 769 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 2: New crazy development. 770 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 19: It's like, oh, it's bad enough that there's this this horrible, 771 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 19: horrible thing happened, and then you find out, oh, wait, 772 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 19: there was a party at Conan O'Brien's house and there 773 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 19: was an argument there, Oh, and this guy was mad 774 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 19: at Bill Hayter, and you're like, who could possibly be 775 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 19: mad at Bill Hayter? And then now you find out 776 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,240 Speaker 19: that people are angry at Trump because of the tweet. 777 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 19: And then now you're finding out that like Rob Reiner 778 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 19: was in cahoots with Clapper and Komy, and the whole 779 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 19: Russia gets you just I just need to step back 780 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 19: from this whole thing for a good long time. It's 781 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 19: like one of those Russian nesting dolls. Every time you 782 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 19: open it, there's like a new, huge development. 783 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 3: You're right, Michael, this case is mol to lay it 784 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 3: and we're finding out more and more, and at its heart, 785 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 3: it's a tragedy to have a loving couple killed allegedly 786 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 3: at the hands of their son. Cinematographer Barry Markowitz was 787 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 3: a close friend of the Rhiners, and he said just 788 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 3: a few weeks ago they were enjoying loving dinners and 789 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 3: TV time with their children. He said, he was business 790 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,720 Speaker 3: as usual in the house. They eat dinner together, old 791 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 3: school and a lot of love, always a lot of love. 792 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 3: This crime has sent shock waves through Hollywood. Michael Rayner's 793 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,399 Speaker 3: politics has been in the spotlight, but his list of achievements, 794 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,320 Speaker 3: the list of movies he was involved with, it's impressive 795 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 3: his back catalog. He leaves a powerful legacy. 796 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 19: Yeah, there was a stretch there where Rob Reiner was 797 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 19: like the Babe Ruth of Hollywood. I mean it was, 798 00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 19: you know, spinal tap misery, stand by me when Harry 799 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 19: mets Like every movie was just. 800 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 2: A ginormous blockbuster. 801 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:11,840 Speaker 19: And thankfully will always have those because the guy was 802 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:18,240 Speaker 19: incredibly gifted. And James Woods, Rob Reiner gave James Woods 803 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 19: career a huge breath of life. So the wonderful thing 804 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 19: about Reiner is, like the people who worked with him, 805 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 19: you could separate the art from the artist and the 806 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 19: politics from the director. 807 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 2: And I think that's what a lot of people need 808 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 2: to do. Now. 809 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 19: You can disagree with people but still appreciate the wonderful, 810 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 19: wonderful films that he's made. 811 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 2: You can't. 812 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 19: You can't argue with his list of success It's it's 813 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 19: just amazing. 814 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 4: Let's bring some happy news. 815 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 3: Donald Trump Junior has asked Palm Beach socialite be Tina 816 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,240 Speaker 3: Anderson to be his bride over the weekend at Camp David. 817 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,280 Speaker 3: Page six reports the couple jetted to the presidential retreat 818 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,280 Speaker 3: to celebrate and since thirty ninth birthday, and that's where 819 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 3: Trump Junior dropped one knee and propose here is the 820 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 3: happy couple earlier today with President Trump. It's really been 821 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 3: the most unforgettable weekend of my life. 822 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,359 Speaker 12: And as Mary the love of my life, and I'm 823 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,479 Speaker 12: just like the luckiest girl on the world. 824 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 11: So thank you. 825 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 5: I think you're to thank you. 826 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 2: Thank you. 827 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 4: Michael. Are we going to have a white House wedding? 828 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,720 Speaker 19: I think we'll and we should have it in that 829 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 19: that brand new ballroom. That thing's already paid for itself. 830 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,800 Speaker 19: Now I just have my fingers crossed that some liberal 831 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 19: judge doesn't find this wedding to be unconstitutional and cancels 832 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 19: the whole thing. 833 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 3: I would not be shocked and Biden appointed judge will 834 00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 3: declare that this wedding could not possibly go ahead. Now, 835 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 3: before you go, Charlie Kirk's widow, Erica Kirk, and Candace 836 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 3: Owens have come together explain to my audience the significance 837 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 3: of this meeting. 838 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,760 Speaker 4: And it went for some four and a half hours. 839 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 19: Michael, Yeah, the mystery and the plot deepens here with 840 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,399 Speaker 19: this one. Candace Owens has a lot of conspiracies well, 841 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 19: I should say theories about what she thinks. 842 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:24,879 Speaker 2: Is really going on. 843 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 19: And then Erica kirk as if she hasn't been through enough, 844 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 19: I think really took the high rode to do this 845 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 19: private meeting, and. 846 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 2: Good for these two girls. 847 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 19: Get together, hash it out, and let's figure out what 848 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 19: the next step is. How do we grow the movement 849 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 19: that Charlie started, and how do we stop this infighting 850 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 19: and move forward because the last time I checked, the 851 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 19: world still has plenty of problems. 852 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 3: To solve, absolutely, and the last thing we need is 853 00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:00,720 Speaker 3: conservatives turning on conservatives over well, really any issue. Michael Loftus, 854 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 3: thank you so much for your time tonight, and that's 855 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 3: all the time I have. Newsnight is up next