WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 26 August

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<v Speaker 1>From the skying in Center. This is Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Cherry, Happy Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>Lots to get to today, including good on the farmers

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<v Speaker 2>who booed you into Allen.

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<v Speaker 1>She's all about renewable energy in the cities. But when

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<v Speaker 1>she gets to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Places where they're getting dutted by and they fire up,

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<v Speaker 2>well done bunnies. Now we all talk about Coles and

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<v Speaker 2>Woolies having too much dominance, but what about them over

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<v Speaker 2>the hardware game?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, like everyone else, they.

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<v Speaker 2>Spend half on the weekend there, but should there be

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<v Speaker 2>other options? And what do Oasis, Prince, David Bowie and

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<v Speaker 2>the Spice Girls.

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<v Speaker 1>All have in common?

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<v Speaker 2>Believe it or not, they all have a connection to

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<v Speaker 2>a special guest we're going to have on the show

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<v Speaker 2>tonight who's got some great rock and roll stories. So

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<v Speaker 2>sit back and enjoy. I guarantee you'll pass these offers

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<v Speaker 2>your next barbecue. They are spectacular stories and a perfect

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<v Speaker 2>gift for Father's Day. But first, now, I'm not getting

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<v Speaker 2>personal at the start of year, but we all know

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister is headed towards a wedding sometime soon.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish him, no we all will.

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<v Speaker 2>I disagree with almost everything politically, but I wish him

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<v Speaker 2>nothing but goodwill personally.

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<v Speaker 1>See.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the difference between people on the right

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<v Speaker 2>side of politics and the left side of politics. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to get involved in how these people's personal

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<v Speaker 2>lives work.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck to.

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<v Speaker 2>Him, And every time he gets himself into trouble there

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be some sort of a reference to the

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<v Speaker 2>personal life. And again I'm not going to criticize the

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<v Speaker 2>choices he's making in his personal life.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck to him.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've got to say the most recent one is

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<v Speaker 2>about as out of touch as you can get with

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<v Speaker 2>where the country is right now. We had to sit

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<v Speaker 2>through on the weekend back and forth conversation about his

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<v Speaker 2>hopes to find love again after his relationship had broken out.

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah. Who cares now again?

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<v Speaker 2>We understand at some point he's going to get married.

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<v Speaker 2>Good luck to him, but that's his business, not ours.

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<v Speaker 2>But as the Prime Minister has come out of two

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<v Speaker 2>terrible weeks in the Federal Parliament failing to answer basic

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<v Speaker 2>questions about who comes into the country after many months,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, two years of terrible economic news, a bloke

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<v Speaker 2>trying to change the subject is who the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 2>is right now he's trying to change it on the

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<v Speaker 2>personal side.

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<v Speaker 1>He's trying to change.

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<v Speaker 2>It on the professional side by hopping back into the

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<v Speaker 2>private plane.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it'll be one of the two

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<v Speaker 2>brand new ones that have been delivered to his government. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>ordered by the previous but still not canceled by his government.

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<v Speaker 2>But all of that means get ready for more airbus albow.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got plenty of trips planned in the next four months,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course that means he's anywhere but here, and

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<v Speaker 2>by his own rules, he can't answer questions about what

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<v Speaker 2>happens domestically because he's overseas at the time. Nice way

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<v Speaker 2>of trying to again change the subject. But in Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>the a one subject is cost of living. Now it

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<v Speaker 2>haunts this government because Australians are a doing it tough,

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<v Speaker 2>but B they were promised a lot better. How many

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<v Speaker 2>times have I sat here and showed you that original

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<v Speaker 2>promise from a couple of years ago, they have failed

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<v Speaker 2>to deliver on every single front. Well, tonight a little

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<v Speaker 2>different way of telling that story, a little different way

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<v Speaker 2>focusing on what the Prime Minister claims.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all day every day focused.

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<v Speaker 2>But his evidence is when he's get the travel plans

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<v Speaker 2>lined up rarebus elbow and we're talking about the personal life,

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<v Speaker 2>he ain't talking about what we are feeling. Interesting story

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<v Speaker 2>comes from Believe it or Not, a report done by

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<v Speaker 2>Unions New South Wales as Labor as it Gets. It

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<v Speaker 2>shows that people, particularly in New South Wales, are desperate

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<v Speaker 2>to leave the state so their dollar can go further.

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<v Speaker 2>They are willing to take the same money for the

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<v Speaker 2>same job because they know different parts of the country

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<v Speaker 2>other than New South Wales and Sydney, and specifics might

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<v Speaker 2>end up being better for their families. So think about that,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd be willing to move away from your family and

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<v Speaker 2>friends because you want your dollar to spin further. Now

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<v Speaker 2>there are hundreds of thousands of Australians who have either

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<v Speaker 2>made this change or are having this conversation that's happened

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<v Speaker 2>in our family, and all the better to these people

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<v Speaker 2>who uproot and go for a different and better life.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you've got young kids, the support network completely disappears.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've got older parents, well then obviously your capacity

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<v Speaker 2>to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>It all changes.

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<v Speaker 2>But people are doing this because the abaneze economy is

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<v Speaker 2>that bad that you can't make ends meet where you live,

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<v Speaker 2>so you choose to live somewhere else to try and

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<v Speaker 2>make ends meet again. The number of Australians who have

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<v Speaker 2>got more than one job has gone up by thirty

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<v Speaker 2>percent in the past couple of years, thirty percent. Just

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<v Speaker 2>before everything went bad in twenty twenty, it was seven

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and forty five thousand people who had more than

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<v Speaker 2>one job. Today you can whack thirty percent onto it

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<v Speaker 2>and it's almost a million people now. I seem to

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<v Speaker 2>remember an opposition leader who was pretending that one of

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<v Speaker 2>the great indices of failure of the cost of living

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<v Speaker 2>crisis under a previous government was the number of people

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<v Speaker 2>who had more than one job. Well, if it's gone

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<v Speaker 2>up by thirty percent since then, as well as twelve

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<v Speaker 2>interest rate rises, as well as the number of people

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<v Speaker 2>who are leaving their friends and family for the same

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<v Speaker 2>amount of money to try to make ends meet. Guess

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<v Speaker 2>where the reality is of Australian politics. It doesn't give

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<v Speaker 2>a tuppence razoo to use the old school term about

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime minister's personal life. It is not distracted by

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime minister's personal life. It is not impressed by

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister rubbing shoulders with world leaders who, by

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<v Speaker 2>his own admission, it's optional about whether he attends these

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<v Speaker 2>meetings or not. You see, Albanezy thinks that if he

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<v Speaker 2>can simply be anywhere but here, then somehow we will

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<v Speaker 2>all think differently of him. There is no evidence to

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<v Speaker 2>suggest that that would be the case at all. And

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<v Speaker 2>then there's an area of inflation that we have been

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<v Speaker 2>talking about for a long time. I have been focused

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<v Speaker 2>on it for a couple of years because I saw

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<v Speaker 2>that it stuck out like the dog's proverbials, because while

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<v Speaker 2>the headline number was a little up a little down,

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<v Speaker 2>generally higher than where it should be according to the

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<v Speaker 2>Reserve Bank, which is why we're thinking about a thirteenth

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<v Speaker 2>interstrate rise on this bloke's watch. However, the Parliament House

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<v Speaker 2>Press Gallery tells you that apparently the tenth, eleventh, and

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<v Speaker 2>twelfth completely fine, but it's the thirteenth that'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Break the back.

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<v Speaker 2>The number of people who go to services to get

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<v Speaker 2>the money before they get paid before they get paid

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<v Speaker 2>is going up. Finder who tells us about seventy something

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<v Speaker 2>percent of people. Close to eighty percent of people are

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<v Speaker 2>in serious financial stress right now. They claim after a

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<v Speaker 2>survey that they did that fourteen percent of people who

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<v Speaker 2>responded to them.

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<v Speaker 1>They've worked that out to be two and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Two point nine million people have used a pay on

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<v Speaker 2>demand service in the past six months. So let's say

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<v Speaker 2>you get paid on the fifteenth, but you run out

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<v Speaker 2>of money on the first. So you go to them

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<v Speaker 2>and say, look, I'll give you what's left over, but

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<v Speaker 2>can you give me my pay on the first, not

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<v Speaker 2>the fifteenth, and then I'll pay you back on the fifteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, if you fail that, like the business model

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<v Speaker 2>of many of those people would, why the interestraates are

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<v Speaker 2>through the roof and you financially find yourself up the river.

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<v Speaker 2>Then again, the reality of a Prime Minister who wants

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<v Speaker 2>us to be distracted by his personal life and impressed

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<v Speaker 2>because he flies around the world. The number of Australians

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<v Speaker 2>who are handing back their private health insurance, those numbers

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<v Speaker 2>are now hitting record numbers. The consequence of that is

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<v Speaker 2>not just more pressure on the private system, but it

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<v Speaker 2>means the types of things that result in you not

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<v Speaker 2>being sent a bill when you call Triple O. Your

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<v Speaker 2>capacity to get elective so called elective surgery done faster,

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<v Speaker 2>your capacity to have your choice of doctors and midwives

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<v Speaker 2>and all the rest of it. When you're having kids,

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<v Speaker 2>all of that disappears. But when people are faced right

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<v Speaker 2>now with the choices of how they're going to pay

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<v Speaker 2>the bills, how they're going to put the food on

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<v Speaker 2>the table, how they're going to pay the power bills,

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<v Speaker 2>that again, this blow promised would be better, but are not.

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<v Speaker 2>No one is impressed by the wedding plans, and no

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<v Speaker 2>one cares about the Prime Minister's itinery to fluff around overseas.

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<v Speaker 1>Now to the insurance point.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, I have been hammering on this because every month,

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<v Speaker 2>every quarter, when we have a look at the CPI,

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<v Speaker 2>the cost of insurance is going through the roof, not

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<v Speaker 2>just the health insurance, but the insurance on your car,

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<v Speaker 2>on your home, on your boat. Because God forbid, it

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<v Speaker 2>gets damaged in a natural disaster, somebody buggers it up,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody steals it, somebody damages it. There's a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of reasons why we ensure the things that we own.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a look at this me. You know it because

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<v Speaker 2>you're living it. But I went and check the numbers today.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the past three years all basically the same

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<v Speaker 2>period of time about how much insurance has gone up.

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<v Speaker 2>It went up by three and bid percent. Then I

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<v Speaker 2>went up by eight and a half percent from the

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<v Speaker 2>three and a half percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I went up by.

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<v Speaker 2>Another six point four on top of the eight point three,

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<v Speaker 2>on top of the three point four, which is eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>point three percent inflation on insurance insurance policies. Well again today,

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<v Speaker 2>more data, more information, not just bleeding, beaching and moaning,

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<v Speaker 2>but data to drive home my point about why the

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<v Speaker 2>prime in this and his government is in a world

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<v Speaker 2>of pain. Now you will see in the next twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four hours. I am deliberately intending not to debate it

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<v Speaker 2>that Jim Charmers has got blanket coverage in much of

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<v Speaker 2>the clickbait media tonight because he said that Peter Dutton

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<v Speaker 2>is the most divisive leader in a deck who cares.

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<v Speaker 2>These people are in charge of an economy they promised

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<v Speaker 2>to do better that has gone way back.

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<v Speaker 1>The cost of paying off a house is twelve times higher.

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<v Speaker 2>Via interest rate rises that has increased by twelve times

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<v Speaker 2>on their watch. People able to take care of their

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<v Speaker 2>own health backwards, food backwards, insurance backwards, petrol backwards.

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<v Speaker 1>You name it.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless you're in the public service where they've got the

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<v Speaker 2>best payer one in ten years. Or you're a member

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<v Speaker 2>of the Federal Parliament that's got three pay rises since

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<v Speaker 2>the last election, or the people who work for the

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<v Speaker 2>people in Federal Parliament who again have one of the

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<v Speaker 2>highest pay rises of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>You are in a.

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<v Speaker 2>World of pay and you will not be distracted by

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<v Speaker 2>what this bloke is trying to do to change the subject,

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<v Speaker 2>because we saw in the Northern Territory when the Labor

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<v Speaker 2>Party consistently and continuously tries to gaslight and electorate youth

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<v Speaker 2>crime is not as bad as you think. It's actually

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<v Speaker 2>coming down. We're really on top of it. Guess what

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<v Speaker 2>people see the reality of their own circumstances. They put

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<v Speaker 2>on a size nine of the rossy boots and they

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<v Speaker 2>punch you as hard as they possibly can. Meantim again

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<v Speaker 2>about insurance, the number of people who are now giving

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<v Speaker 2>up on it because they can't afford it, meaning that

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<v Speaker 2>if there was a flood or a cracked roof tile,

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<v Speaker 2>or somebody breaks a window, or somebody steals the car,

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<v Speaker 2>or somebody sinks the boat, then you are up the

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<v Speaker 2>creek without a paddle.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a mob called Actori's Institute.

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<v Speaker 2>Steeper home insurance premiums have caused a number of Australian

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<v Speaker 2>households experiencing home insurance affordability stress to go up by

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<v Speaker 2>thirty percent. That's now one point six million people. Not

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<v Speaker 2>over the past decade, not over the past five years,

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<v Speaker 2>in the past twelve months. Why because it went up

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<v Speaker 2>by three point four percent one year eight point five

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<v Speaker 2>on top of three point four six point four on

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<v Speaker 2>top of eight point five total in the past three years.

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<v Speaker 2>Insurance up up up eighteen percent. The Home Insurance Affordability

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<v Speaker 2>and Home Loans at Risk Report catchy Title found that

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<v Speaker 2>of these households, they were spending, on average of houses

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<v Speaker 2>nine point six weeks of their gross income on house insurance.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've got to work for like months to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to pay off the overall insurance seven times higher

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<v Speaker 2>than the average household overall. The proportion to push the

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<v Speaker 2>proportion of affordability stress in households facing more home insurance

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<v Speaker 2>premiums are more than one month's gross annual income. I apologize.

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<v Speaker 2>They rose to fifteen percent this year. It was twelve

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<v Speaker 2>percent last year. Here's a map. If all the garble

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<v Speaker 2>word doesn't work the darker the color, the harder it

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<v Speaker 2>is for people to pay for things like home insurance.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh but the details of when he's going to get married,

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<v Speaker 2>in his previous love life and the breakdown of his

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<v Speaker 2>love life. And please think of me as a great

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<v Speaker 2>world leader because I know how to jump on and

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<v Speaker 2>off a private jet.

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<v Speaker 1>Shove it. I meant. I'm thinking about planes.

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<v Speaker 2>As we know, we have a system where basically, if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to fly, there is really only two options.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll end up flying contits or you will fly Virgin,

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<v Speaker 2>both fine airlines. Personally, my preference is Virgin, God love them.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are plenty of examples of lots of different airlines,

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<v Speaker 2>both here and overseas, where when your flight gets canceled,

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<v Speaker 2>well they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Give you any money back.

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<v Speaker 2>You end up either being stranded or put you up

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<v Speaker 2>in a hotel. But the point is you don't end

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<v Speaker 2>up with any money. Now, interestingly, the federal government is

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about changing this. They want to introduce a thing

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<v Speaker 2>called the Charter of Rights, meaning that you, as a

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<v Speaker 2>passenger would be able to, among other things, get money

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<v Speaker 2>back if you want to if you don't catch the

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<v Speaker 2>flight you want to. Australians would be able to access

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<v Speaker 2>cash refunds for canceled or unreasonably delayed flights under a

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<v Speaker 2>much anticipated crackdown on the aviation sector. The White Paper

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<v Speaker 2>was handed down this morning and has hoped to trigger

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<v Speaker 2>a flight revival. Sorry some slight pushback here from the

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<v Speaker 2>soaring costs after the collapse of two airlines, that being

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<v Speaker 2>Bonds and Rex. The government's using the White Paper to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about a thing called a Charter of Rights entitling

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<v Speaker 2>airline customers to refunds for flights that are disrupted, canceled

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<v Speaker 2>or unreasonably delayed. Good idea, he's the Aviation Minister.

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<v Speaker 3>What we all want to see is in fact that

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<v Speaker 3>customers get what they pay for. You've bought a ticket.

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<v Speaker 3>If the flight doesn't go, or the flight doesn't go

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<v Speaker 3>when you expect it to go, you should expect that

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<v Speaker 3>that's the service that is provided. And so really this

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<v Speaker 3>is about providing remedies to consumers.

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<v Speaker 2>And they would introduce a new organization which you would

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<v Speaker 2>be able to complain to, which would help you get

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<v Speaker 2>back the refund.

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<v Speaker 1>But don't get too excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Despite the fact that this government, if it wants to,

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<v Speaker 2>can pass whatever legislation it wants as fast as it wants.

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<v Speaker 2>This will not be created until twenty twenty six, So

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<v Speaker 2>nothing will happen this year, nothing will happen next year,

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<v Speaker 2>and who knows when the year after they will create

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<v Speaker 2>the organization that will help police whether or not you

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<v Speaker 2>can get money back if a plane does not turn

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<v Speaker 2>up when you want the plane to turn up. Meantime,

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<v Speaker 2>eagalize over at the Daily Mail. Notice that again some

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<v Speaker 2>woke language is used in all of this. Anthony Albaneese

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<v Speaker 2>is government vowed to improve the rights of airline passengers,

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<v Speaker 2>but a technical change has us He's laughing woke. You see,

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<v Speaker 2>the telecommunications industry has a thing called the telecommunications ombardsman.

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<v Speaker 2>The term ombardsman is essentially a person who will investigate

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<v Speaker 2>complaints on your behalf. In most of the areas that

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<v Speaker 2>business is on one side, government is on the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>The ombardsman puts out a report. The ombardsman is often

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who is supposed to be independent from government. But

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<v Speaker 2>because this is the Albanezioso woke government, guess what they

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<v Speaker 2>got rid of.

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<v Speaker 1>The man in ombards man.

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<v Speaker 2>New efforts to protect passengers rights will be spearheaded by

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<v Speaker 2>an ombud not an Onmbirdsman. The Federal government's aviation white

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<v Speaker 2>Paper has revealed the gender neutral shift appears to be

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<v Speaker 2>the first of its kind in an official government communication,

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<v Speaker 2>departure from Ombud's schemes such as the fair work on Birdsmen.

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<v Speaker 2>So when they're starting a new one the lot, they

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<v Speaker 2>call it an Ombud. If they're still running one, it'll

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<v Speaker 2>still be a call on Onbud's mun But somebody will

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<v Speaker 2>be hoping to change that sometime in the future. To

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<v Speaker 2>my first point, interest rates have gone up twelve times

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<v Speaker 2>on these people's watch, insurance has gone up by how

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<v Speaker 2>much in.

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<v Speaker 1>The past three years?

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<v Speaker 2>Petrol they charge more tax than ever before. The Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister thinks he can distract you by personal life anecdotes,

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<v Speaker 2>or look at how big a world leader I am,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm going around the world on a new private

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<v Speaker 2>jet that's going to cost him and the Governor General

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<v Speaker 2>or ass actually about the same amount of money as

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<v Speaker 2>the voice did, about four hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>And fifty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Seriously, these people, you'd say that they're ostriches or emais

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<v Speaker 2>and they got their head.

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<v Speaker 1>In their sand. But I think it might be somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>To the CFMEU now we all know the stories, we

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<v Speaker 2>all know the allegations that have been made against them,

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<v Speaker 2>and we all know the obvious case for policing and

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<v Speaker 2>better policing of the CFMEU. But this Labor Party that

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<v Speaker 2>now wants to pretend it's getting tough on the MEU.

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<v Speaker 2>You of course got rid of the standing Royal Commission

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<v Speaker 2>into the Building Industry, which, among other things, exposed some

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<v Speaker 2>of the behaviors of the CFMEU.

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<v Speaker 1>But tomorrow get ready.

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<v Speaker 2>For the ce FMU and you're part of Australia to

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<v Speaker 2>walk off the job, highvis and everything. But your union proud,

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<v Speaker 2>scream yell and they are ready for what they call

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<v Speaker 2>a war.

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<v Speaker 4>Message to the Labor Party, what's your membership disappear? You're

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<v Speaker 4>all vaded up to look after work and people do

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<v Speaker 4>your job, run the country. Your membership is going to disappear.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a disgrace what you are doing. Yeah, if I've

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<v Speaker 4>got one message for our union, it's probably the old

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<v Speaker 4>saying it's darkest before the dawn, or just makes me

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<v Speaker 4>think that we've got a battle on our hands. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>not a short battle, it could be a long war.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know that they're getting ready for one, because

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<v Speaker 2>they're using terms like war and they're quoting Batman Darkest.

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<v Speaker 1>Before the Dawn.

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<v Speaker 2>Seriously, this is the sort of staff to expect in

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<v Speaker 2>the next little while. Now, remember this is the very

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<v Speaker 2>same union that's been demanding stop go lollipop people. Have

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<v Speaker 2>I offended lollipop people, lollipop persons or with the onards

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<v Speaker 2>things at lollipop Okay, lollipops around Australia who are still

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<v Speaker 2>they claim being paid two hundred thousand dollars or need

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<v Speaker 2>to be paid two hundred thousand dollars because sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 2>hot and sometimes it rains when they lollipop.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, union protests nothing new.

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<v Speaker 2>He's won from a couple of years ago when they

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<v Speaker 2>were fighting over in and around the same things. And

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<v Speaker 2>things even got so testy that at the Federal Government

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<v Speaker 2>office block in Brisbane, a member of the CFMEU decided

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<v Speaker 2>to push so hard against the door that it broke.

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<v Speaker 5>Bringing it home with a bang.

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<v Speaker 3>The front doors of Waterfront Place in pieces after a

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<v Speaker 3>rowdy protest for better pay and conditions.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing to see here.

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<v Speaker 2>Interestingly, John Setka, who is now out of the CFMAU

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<v Speaker 2>in Victoria, is a man who is still deeply union

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<v Speaker 2>proud got the tattoos to prove it, and he did

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<v Speaker 2>an interview last on Channel seven. He told an interesting

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<v Speaker 2>story about an apparent interaction with the OsO tough Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not going to say what you said to the

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<v Speaker 3>Prime Minister in the lift, but tell me what was

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<v Speaker 3>his reaction to what you said?

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<v Speaker 6>Did he have a physical reaction to what you said?

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't say anything bad to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Was he scared? He was scared?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you know he was scared?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, when someone stats trimming, you know he's scared. And

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<v Speaker 7>evens I hadn't even said a word.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I didn't believe him, or don't believe him. But

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<v Speaker 2>the only person who you think could respond is the

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<v Speaker 2>other person in the lift. Oh no, there was a

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<v Speaker 2>minister sent out to speak on the Prime Minister's behalf

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<v Speaker 2>about a lyft ride that they didn't know much about.

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<v Speaker 8>Anyone who's met the Prime Minister would know that he'd

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<v Speaker 8>be happy to get on a left with that, and

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<v Speaker 8>John Secker, anyone wouldn't make him tremble. I think it's

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<v Speaker 8>just John Secker trying to beat his chest and try

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<v Speaker 8>and be the tough guy, and unfortunately that's been the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, of course, the difference between if you did happen

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<v Speaker 2>to get into a lift of the Prime Minister is

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<v Speaker 2>that you might get out on floors one, two or three.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll go to the penthouse because you're paying for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean come John and Seeker.

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<v Speaker 2>Had plenty to say as well about why he decided

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<v Speaker 2>to pull the pin on his involvement with the c

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<v Speaker 2>FORMU in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 7>The truth is there was a deal struck I offered

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<v Speaker 7>myself when I heard that there could be an administrator appointed.

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<v Speaker 7>Struck between who between our union, our national office and

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<v Speaker 7>my understanding was Burke, Minister Burke. I said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 7>I'll go. I will pull the pin today, but they

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<v Speaker 7>leave the union alone. And at twenty to six the

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<v Speaker 7>call came through. Yes there's a deal.

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<v Speaker 9>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Also very interesting here is that obviously the Labor Party

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<v Speaker 2>has now finally seen that they have to create some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of distance between themselves and the CFMU. Interestingly, though

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<v Speaker 2>some people with connections to the CFM you still sit

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<v Speaker 2>on the National Executive i e.

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<v Speaker 1>The Board of Directors of the Labor Party.

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<v Speaker 2>They of course would be serious about severing ties with

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<v Speaker 2>parts of the CFMU if those people were ushit out

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<v Speaker 2>the door. But you know, minor details process story, nobody's

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<v Speaker 2>interested in that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Where will the CFMU end up, Where will the muscle

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<v Speaker 2>on the polling places end up? Where will their considerable

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<v Speaker 2>amounts of money Remember, of course they run or have

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<v Speaker 2>connections to superannuation funds. Well, of course that may well

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<v Speaker 2>end up being the Greens. Ironically, the bloke it was

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<v Speaker 2>telling you about the Prime Minister and Lyft is now

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<v Speaker 2>telling you about the CFMU and the Greens.

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<v Speaker 8>It would be nice to hear from the Greens why

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<v Speaker 8>they don't actually support this bill, But instead they spent

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<v Speaker 8>the best part of three days curling up into a

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<v Speaker 8>little ball, hoping that this argument can avoid them and

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<v Speaker 8>hoping that they don't have to take a position. Well,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm sorry, but you're going to have to take an addition,

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<v Speaker 8>The only reason the Greens can be possibly opposing the

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<v Speaker 8>legislation that we're putting forward is that they are desperate

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<v Speaker 8>to carve off donations to prop up their campaigns.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I want to signore what is about to happen

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<v Speaker 2>to Dan Tian Dan ten is a Liberal member of

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<v Speaker 2>Parliament is of course the shadow Immigration Minister, and he

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<v Speaker 2>has been tharmby the government for the past couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks and if this government goes to minority or even worse,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll largely be because of his efforts in the past

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks.

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<v Speaker 10>Is the Minister aware of any concerns from security or

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<v Speaker 10>intelligence agencies about any of the thirteen hundred people who

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<v Speaker 10>have arrived in Australia from the Gaza warside. Isn't this

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<v Speaker 10>why Australians are disappointed in the Prime Minister and now

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<v Speaker 10>saying he is incompetent and dishonest. How many of the

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<v Speaker 10>twenty nine hundred visas from Gaza have been canceled? There's

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<v Speaker 10>no concepts of it's just a question of how many.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he represents a part of Victoria that is in

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<v Speaker 2>and around Warnabull.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you know we love Warnable.

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<v Speaker 2>We've done an ourtown show from there, speaking of we're

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<v Speaker 2>off the wa this week, very excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Warnable's a beautiful part of Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>And guests who decided today to just focus on the

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<v Speaker 2>teal challenger to the man who has caused so much

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<v Speaker 2>trouble for the government when it comes to who comes

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<v Speaker 2>to the country and the manner in which they come.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the Cydney Morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Herald, The Age The Brisbane Times decided today was the

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<v Speaker 2>day to give the coverage to the Teal.

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<v Speaker 1>Challenger to Dan Tean.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this is of course done by the opinion section,

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<v Speaker 2>not the news section, because you can say so many

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<v Speaker 2>more nice things, a little bit like ween Zalie Stegel

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<v Speaker 2>launched her campaign to ask then former Prime Minister Tony

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<v Speaker 2>Abbott again. This was launched very in a beautiful arrangement

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<v Speaker 2>with a right along.

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<v Speaker 1>With Us profile on the ABC.

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<v Speaker 2>The ABC even went to the electorate the day before

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<v Speaker 2>the federal election. The puff pieces were already out and

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<v Speaker 2>about just as the campaign was launched. It's almost like

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<v Speaker 2>they know exactly what they're doing here, and what they

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<v Speaker 2>do is they try to highlight one of the Teal targets,

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<v Speaker 2>focus the media on it, and therefore try to get

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<v Speaker 2>a result. Now, interestingly, when it comes to this situation, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the Teal candidate who claims not to be a Teal

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll get to that in a moment or two,

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<v Speaker 2>is time. The first time they ran, they got about

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<v Speaker 2>ten percent. They've got about nineteen percent in the most

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<v Speaker 2>recent federal election, so they got it to technically marginal,

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<v Speaker 2>but Dan Tee and even when the water was going

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<v Speaker 2>out on the previous government was getting close to fifty

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the vote. But of course the reason the

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<v Speaker 2>Teal is able to get there is because you add

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<v Speaker 2>the Labor Party together with the Greens, together with the Independent,

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:45.959
<v Speaker 2>and then oh magically we're forty something percent and two

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<v Speaker 2>party preferred. You're notited Australia Party one nation. Your preferences

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<v Speaker 2>matter why because if you muck around and go fifty

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<v Speaker 2>to fifty, you're going to end up with Labor Party

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 2>people or Teal people, and I'm pretty sure they're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the types of people that will represent

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<v Speaker 2>you in the fashion.

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<v Speaker 1>Of which you like.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, of course, should technically say he's not really a

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:05.240
<v Speaker 2>Teal because he's got orange T shirts, but he's got

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<v Speaker 2>Teal money, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Would suggest to me that he's actually a Teal. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, what they want is programs like ours to

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<v Speaker 2>blow up and overfocus on this seat. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>last time. I'm most likely we'll talk about it for many,

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<v Speaker 2>many months. But when you see magical references that the

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<v Speaker 2>next on the Teal target is Stantean, they're doing it

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<v Speaker 2>because he's effective, very effective in the Parliament. And they're

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<v Speaker 2>doing it because they hope that we end up talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it, we talk the challenge into reality. Wait, watch

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<v Speaker 2>and see, because I won't be adding to that. I

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<v Speaker 2>just wanted to tell you what's going on and how

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<v Speaker 2>they go after the people who disrupt the left's narrative

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<v Speaker 2>every time. Now, I mentioned at the start of the show,

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<v Speaker 2>we all know how powerful in supermarkets Coals and Woolies are.

0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:52.120
<v Speaker 2>And yes there's Aldi, and yes there's IgA, and yes

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 2>there's technically other people around, but these are the two

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<v Speaker 2>big ones.

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<v Speaker 1>But when it comes to hardware or plants.

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Or anything else, it feels like you're more likely to

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<v Speaker 2>see a Bunnings than you are to see your local

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<v Speaker 2>hardware store or local nursery. They've all closed up over

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<v Speaker 2>a while because essentially, this big ship flies in and

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 2>the range is great and the people are love. I

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<v Speaker 2>get all of that, right, But just as when one

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<v Speaker 2>supermarket or two supermarkets are kind of in charge of everything, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what happens to the people who try to sell things

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<v Speaker 2>in those stores? Are they selling them for fair amounts?

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<v Speaker 2>Does the big company screw them down? Well, interestingly, this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be the focus of a inquiry in

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<v Speaker 2>the same way that the supermarket CEOs were brought in

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<v Speaker 2>and finger waving, And I generally don't like the tactic

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<v Speaker 2>because not much happens after it. But now that we

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<v Speaker 2>have a code of conduct which is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>administered by the federal government about the behaviors of Colson

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<v Speaker 2>Woolies and the people who sell to them to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that you get a fair price so they can

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<v Speaker 2>keep on with their businesses, well, this may well be

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<v Speaker 2>what's about to happen. To Bunnings. Reporter who wrote the

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<v Speaker 2>story today for the AFR, was on the radio in Perth.

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<v Speaker 9>Competition should be stronger in their business and that there

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:16.200
<v Speaker 9>should be better deals for suppliers, including for plant suppliers

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<v Speaker 9>selling to businesses like Bummings, to ensure that their businesses

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 9>are viable and that the regional producers in particular can

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<v Speaker 9>continue to sell and make a good living themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about that, and the farmer's firing up today

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:34.159
<v Speaker 2>and feeling very under looved with the wonderful Matt Canavan.

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:36.679
<v Speaker 2>We'll get him in a mund or two's time, but

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<v Speaker 2>quickly to the United States. The bookies say the race

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<v Speaker 2>is fifty to fifty. Why is the race fifty to fifty,

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<v Speaker 2>because the one state that matters more than anything else

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of the swing states, Pennsylvania, is fifty fifty.

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 2>The polls seem to suggest that Nevada and Arizona a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit stronger for Trump, but fifty to fifty.

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Speaker 1>Which is why the Robert F.

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<v Speaker 2>Kennedy thing matters, because if what is left of Robert

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Kennedy's vote, the majority of which goes to Trump, He'll

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<v Speaker 2>win the state and then of course sets himself up

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<v Speaker 2>to win the presidency. Interestingly, where Trump goes from here

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<v Speaker 2>now that all of the conventions are done and we

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<v Speaker 2>wait till the debate, I think on the tenth eleventh

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<v Speaker 2>of September, tenth of September, thank you Team, is that

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<v Speaker 2>there's going to be a lot more Trump rallies. They're

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 2>going to be inside, they're going to be outside. There's

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 2>going to be fireworks, There's going to be no fireworks.

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 2>And his campaign says, get ready for something massive from

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<v Speaker 2>Trump every single day for the next seventy something until

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 2>the country decides.

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<v Speaker 11>We have new reporting tonight on Trump's sprint to November.

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 11>We're learning that his campaign plans to aggressively ramp up

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 11>his schedule, holding several events each week, one advisor saying, quote,

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 11>think Trump on steroids.

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<v Speaker 2>Fight fight, fight, can't wait to see it happen. Meantime,

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<v Speaker 2>as the lefty media is still carrying not just water

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 2>but parting the seas. Not it's a torture metaphor, but

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 2>still for Kamala Harris, it's left to the people who

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<v Speaker 2>go on to these now dominant establishment and access media

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 2>shows to actually call bs, including on the idea that

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris has put any detail on the table. Tom Colton,

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<v Speaker 2>Republican Senator, School's ten out of ten hits it out

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 2>of the park, gets a home run, Schools seeks an out.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you get my point?

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<v Speaker 12>The American people are totally justified to conclude that Kamala

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<v Speaker 12>Harris is a dangerous San Francisco Liberal based on what

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<v Speaker 12>she campaigned on the last time she ran for president

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<v Speaker 12>and what this administration has done the last four years. Again,

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<v Speaker 12>you would have thought watching the Democratic Convention last week

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<v Speaker 12>that the Democrats are not in office, but they're not

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 12>in power, that they're campaigning against an incumbent Republican when

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 12>in reality, she's been part of the failures of the

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 12>Biden Harris administration for four years.

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<v Speaker 1>Meantime, I'd watch all of this stuff so you don't

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 1>have to.

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<v Speaker 2>But the passive, aggressive, snocky snowbery, frankly, that comes out

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 2>of many of the people who sit on the panels

0:29:55.760 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 2>discussing American politics is well reminiscent of two thousand and six. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what's about to happen in November

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 2>of this year. I don't know if it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be harrassed by a mile Trump by Trump, who knows.

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 2>But the way did these people think, oh, we've got

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 2>nothing to worry about, We're all okay. And what's the

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 2>difference between the orange had lady who used to work

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 2>for the Biden campaign by the way, so she's not

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<v Speaker 2>an objective contributor and the blokeho I think, used to

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<v Speaker 2>work for George W. Bush's again a sourin contributor. When

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<v Speaker 2>he talks about the reality of the gas lighting of

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 2>the Democrats, Watch how she just ignores what he says

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 2>and makes up something. This happens to Trump every day.

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<v Speaker 6>So this notion like joy isn't a strategy. Joy is

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<v Speaker 6>actually what people want. This is what they want to

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<v Speaker 6>feel right now, and they're feeling it from her. She's

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<v Speaker 6>also laying out substantive policy proposals, which she did in

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<v Speaker 6>her her nominating speech, and the idea of these two

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<v Speaker 6>things are somehow mutually exclusive. I don't think that's true.

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<v Speaker 6>And what she's doing right now is good.

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<v Speaker 13>The joy will continue until morale improves. People don't want

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 13>to feel joy, they want.

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<v Speaker 1>To feel relief.

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<v Speaker 13>The economic anxiety is real, and it is you know,

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<v Speaker 13>you can say inflation is down, and I know that's

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 13>why the Democrats are going to argue. Not a single

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 13>person who has bought a single thing in the last

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<v Speaker 13>four years or in the last four minutes believes that.

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<v Speaker 13>And I think you get in trouble in politics when

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<v Speaker 13>you tell people something.

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<v Speaker 1>That does not match their lived experience.

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<v Speaker 6>So stus as people do not want to feel joy. Yes, everyone,

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<v Speaker 6>stick around.

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<v Speaker 5>We're going to keep.

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<v Speaker 2>What garbage did you already actually said about the actual economy.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course, the way the media exhaustly we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to turn this word and pretend that this word is

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 2>the word they're fighting against. Please wait, watch and say

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<v Speaker 2>I'll update you on this and everything else every night

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<v Speaker 2>here on Pulmary Life. Great Battle coming up next to

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<v Speaker 2>Sam Crosby, Matt Canavan, and then we're gonna do a

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 2>bit of rock and roll before we've done to night.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna love tonight's show. Thanks for watching, Thanks very

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<v Speaker 2>much for watching. Senator Matt Canavan joins us right now

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<v Speaker 2>along with the wonderful Sam Crosby. Both fire up, both

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<v Speaker 2>ready to go because we're doing rock and roll on

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<v Speaker 2>the second.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all you boys for the next few minutes. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's get to this, Matt, what do you think happened

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<v Speaker 1>in the NT? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>We know crime was the issue. Is there something bigger

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<v Speaker 2>that happened in the Northern Territory because they didn't just change,

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<v Speaker 2>they flogged the Labor Party, that being the Seal people.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, I think it does show and represent the general

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<v Speaker 14>unhappiness Australians have right now with the direction of their country,

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<v Speaker 14>their territory, their state, whatever it is. Obviously there were

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 14>some local issues there in the NT, as always, but

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<v Speaker 14>to receive the spanking of this kind, there probably is

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<v Speaker 14>this underlying concern from Australians that things just aren't going

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<v Speaker 14>that well right now. I mean pretty much everywhere you look.

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<v Speaker 14>You mentioned law and order, which is an issue for

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<v Speaker 14>some but obviously everybody goes to their shops on a

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<v Speaker 14>weekly basis, and everything costs.

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<v Speaker 1>More and more.

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<v Speaker 14>People who owe a mortgage, you're paying thousands of dollars

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<v Speaker 14>or more on their repayments in just the last couple

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<v Speaker 14>of years. Our hospitals are bulging and just can't seem

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<v Speaker 14>to deal with even not life threatening but serious injuries

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 14>on a timely basis. Our roads have massive potholes in

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<v Speaker 14>them that just didn't exist years ago. Doesn't be raining

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<v Speaker 14>any harder, but things just don't seem to be keeping up.

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<v Speaker 14>Our nation's sort of crumbling around us, and so I

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:19.560
<v Speaker 14>think that's what's happening here, and it's a tough time

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<v Speaker 14>for incumbent governments that don't have the answers. Certainly federally,

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<v Speaker 14>we've got one of those governments that's flailing around right now,

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<v Speaker 14>I'm not really sure about itself, and doesn't really have

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:32.960
<v Speaker 14>any solutions to these massive problems facing Australians today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Sam, I also think it relates a little back

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<v Speaker 2>to just the principle of what that Republican.

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<v Speaker 1>Bloke was saying on CNN.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you were taking notes, which was I'll say

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<v Speaker 2>you here, which was him saying well, you can't tell

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<v Speaker 2>people that the live experience is different than what it

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<v Speaker 2>actually is. Right now, governments of all persuasions, at some

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<v Speaker 2>point in time end up saying, well, this data says

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<v Speaker 2>it's better than you think it is, but the Treasury

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<v Speaker 2>has told me life's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well this one's up, this one's down.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the less and for albow charmers and

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of them, is to actually engage with something

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<v Speaker 2>as it is, not as someone can represent it to be.

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<v Speaker 15>Look, I think you're right, and notwithstanding Matt's very ungracious

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 15>comments about the federal government, I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 15>these points are correct that long term governments, after a while,

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:21.839
<v Speaker 15>they have to wear the blame for everything that's going

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<v Speaker 15>wrong in someone's life. Let me put one other theory

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 15>out there as so, I think why whereas the Labor

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 15>Party did so poorly on the weekend, I think this

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 15>government's last term was horribly, horribly inconsistent. You know, if

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 15>you look at three chief ministers, three chief ministers, well

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 15>that's right, Like if are you pro fracking or are

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 15>you anti fracking? Are you pro tough on crime or

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 15>you pro a software approach? I almost don't even know

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:54.839
<v Speaker 15>if it matters which side you pick, as long as

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 15>you stick to it and you believe in it and

0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 15>you've got some evidence to back it up. I mean,

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 15>at some stage of rubber is going to have to

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 15>it hit the road and you've got to hope it works.

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.240
<v Speaker 15>But they got eaten from the left and the right.

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 15>They got all the worst parts of going to the

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 15>left and all the worst parts of going to the right.

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 15>At no stage does it seem like they actually sat

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 15>down and thought, well, hold on, what's actually going to

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 15>work to deliver the outcomes that we promised.

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, what'll be fascinating to watch too is remember one

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:19.439
<v Speaker 2>of the negotiations currently making its way in and around

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Canvas is, in order to get some federal finance stuff changed,

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 2>will they double the number of senators that come from territories. Now,

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:28.760
<v Speaker 2>of course that'll produce way more lefties out of the act.

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 2>But with the Greens being able to get enough of

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 2>a vote to take over, say the richest part of Darwin,

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 2>they've been in and around Fanny Bay, do they end

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 2>up now in a scenario where they're going to start

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 2>threatening for one of the four spots rather than the

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 2>even divide again, potentially making it even further to the

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:45.280
<v Speaker 2>left all weight watch and sea. It is always interesting,

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.319
<v Speaker 2>by the way, how the riches go green first, isn't

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 2>it anyway? What about the farmers today, Matt, when they

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:52.799
<v Speaker 2>decided to give it to did you send to Alan

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:54.719
<v Speaker 2>as she was there at the Bush summit? This one

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:56.839
<v Speaker 2>was in Victoria, I think in Bendigom and mate Rita

0:35:56.880 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 2>Panahy was there along with many others. This is some

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 2>of the reaction that came from farmers when Alan was

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 2>well talking up her own book.

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Have a look.

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:08.840
<v Speaker 3>It also provides not just a more secure form of energy,

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 3>it's a cheaper form of energy. We're nearly at forty percent.

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 5>So how do we get excuse lads and John's.

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 1>She didn't like that, did she? Now?

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Of course, perfect example about what's happening around places like Ballarat.

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Now I don't understand how Ballarat sent labor MPs back

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:29.319
<v Speaker 2>to the Victorian Parliament at the last election when that

0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 2>is the absolute heart of one of those areas where

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 2>because Melbourne has decided we're going, we're going renewable energy,

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:37.759
<v Speaker 2>places like Ballarat are the ones who have to put

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 2>up with the massive disruption to their farms. That in

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 2>part is why they called bs. But she didn't like it,

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<v Speaker 2>did she?

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>No, she didn't.

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<v Speaker 14>Paul, and I just want to segue from your last

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 14>comment about rich areas going green first. I just wish

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 14>we'd impose green policies on those.

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Areas first too. I mean, I think that needs.

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<v Speaker 14>To happen, because what Tennis to seem to happen is

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 14>the rich people vote for the Greens, and then the

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 14>Greens policies get imposed out in the bush and the

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 14>rural areas. They're the ones that have to suffer among

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 14>these massive bird killing wind turbines and hectares full of

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 14>mirrors and their beautiful landscapes. That's why there's this reaction

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 14>going on in the bush. And obviously Premier Allen seems

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 14>completely deaf to it. I don't know how she thought

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 14>that would go down well. It goes also back to

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:28.800
<v Speaker 14>what you said about politicians telling people that their lived

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:32.400
<v Speaker 14>experience is wrong, because how could you get up and

0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 14>say with a straight face that renewables is the cheapest.

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Form of power.

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 14>I mean, everybody in that room has got a power

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:41.759
<v Speaker 14>bill in the last quarter. Everybody can see their power

0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 14>bills go through the roof at the same time that

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 14>the Victorian government, more than any other apart from South Australia,

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 14>has been rolling out renewables at a record pace. And

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:52.319
<v Speaker 14>could you say that with a straight face. And that's

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 14>why people are losing trust in politicians. It's why you're

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 14>seeing these reactions at the ballot post box and in

0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 14>terms of baller rut at the state election. The problem there,

0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 14>Paul was there wasn't an alternative the Victorian levels of

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:04.360
<v Speaker 14>that election, where as Gung ho as the Labor Party

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:06.719
<v Speaker 14>on the climate agender, if not more so, that's a

0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:09.359
<v Speaker 14>bit different now federally because we've got a better dot

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 14>than the leader who's backing your clear energy and saying

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.800
<v Speaker 14>no to this reckless rollout of renewables across our beautiful,

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 14>pristine Australian landscapes.

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Now, Sam, I'm going to give you a very easy,

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:21.719
<v Speaker 2>very easy task right now. Could you please explain why

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister thinks calling people after or not being

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:26.880
<v Speaker 2>able to call people after the end of the workday

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:30.399
<v Speaker 2>will improve productivity. You're a smarter person than I, full

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 2>bright and all well. The tape so he has time.

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 16>To think, you know what it'll do it'll boost productivity.

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 16>The idea that you should be on call at ten

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 16>o'clock at night if you work a nine to five

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:49.239
<v Speaker 16>job isn't reasonable, and that will lead to better relations

0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:50.480
<v Speaker 16>in the workplace.

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Does he know what productivity? Actually?

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, he how well you slept the night before.

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 2>It's how much work you get done at work.

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:01.959
<v Speaker 15>So I'll freely admit we are going to delve deep

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 15>into white collar privileged jobs right here. But generally speaking,

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 15>when you turn up to the office, you know, you

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 15>work an eight hour day, sure, but actually being productive

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:13.719
<v Speaker 15>in that period of time, you're not productive for the

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 15>full light house, right, that's complete nonsense. You were productive

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:18.879
<v Speaker 15>for maybe half maybe three quarters that time. Now, if

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 15>you're rocking up to work having you know, not slept,

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:23.839
<v Speaker 15>having you know, it's not going to be quality work.

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:25.719
<v Speaker 15>And so the point that he's making is if you

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:29.719
<v Speaker 15>can actually get some time, often some time to spend

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 15>with your family to decompress, you're going to turn up

0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 15>to the office the next day and you're going to

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 15>be able to process and deliver for your employer. I

0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:39.319
<v Speaker 15>think that's a very reasonable point.

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 2>I think you're being a very loyal soldier there, very

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 2>loyal soldier. But we'll move on because I want to

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 2>get there as many things as possible before we go.

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 1>A bit of rock and roll that.

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 2>Will be in a good fight though, Jackie Lamby, Now, Okay,

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:53.360
<v Speaker 2>I understand the power of the personality. I understand how

0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:55.479
<v Speaker 2>the media loves her because she fits into this lovely

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:58.719
<v Speaker 2>little slot. But the reality of her politics is that

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:00.280
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't want to be part of any dis decision

0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 2>making process. She just wants you to come up with

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:06.000
<v Speaker 2>the idea everyone else negotiated, and then she's the last

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:06.640
<v Speaker 2>person in the room.

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>He decides like it, don't like it.

0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 2>She, of course, is able to rage against governments at

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 2>all times, which is why when she's had people working

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:18.920
<v Speaker 2>with her they leave her party in the Senate, and

0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 2>why she's apparently sacked two of the three people who

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 2>got elected in Tasmania.

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Now, Matt, do you see up close?

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:29.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean again, I get the brand, I get the success,

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 2>I get why it works, But is it exclusive to

0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 2>one person as opposed to the people they can help

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 2>get elected with them?

0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:40.960
<v Speaker 14>Look, I think it's just the pattern of all of

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:44.920
<v Speaker 14>these single name parties that they tend to implode because

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 14>they're not based around a value set or a principal

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:51.480
<v Speaker 14>based set of principles. They're based around a person and

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:53.720
<v Speaker 14>as you say, when that person disagrees with other people,

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 14>its invariably happens. When people get together the party implodes.

0:40:57.560 --> 0:40:59.920
<v Speaker 14>So it's not just Jackie Lamby. We've seen Paul Enhance

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 14>lose her run the state MP here in Queensland, seeing

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 14>Clyde Palmer do the same and say, look, I just

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:07.239
<v Speaker 14>don't think they're good teams, and you need a good

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 14>team ultimately to get anything done in life.

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:11.359
<v Speaker 2>So then seeing we end up with this silly world

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 2>where we're going to pretend that the Teals aren't a

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:15.439
<v Speaker 2>party despite the fact they identify the same way, you vote,

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 2>the same way, but they're all technically independent.

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:18.279
<v Speaker 1>Is that the way to do it?

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 15>Look, I don't know, and I'm certainly not here to

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 15>defend the Teals. However, to Matt's point, I think he's right.

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:29.400
<v Speaker 15>You know, in one of these parties that are branded

0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 15>by the individual, then they're the sort of dictator, the

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 15>lead of the whole thing. At least with the Teals,

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 15>you've got a situation where they're all equal and they

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 15>can all have it out and come up with whatever

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 15>they want. But if you're going to get me on

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 15>here to defend the tials, you know, we got to

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 15>talk about my contract.

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:43.799
<v Speaker 1>All right, I love it.

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 2>I'll see you next week. Thank you very much, Sam,

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, Matt. All right, let's do some

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:50.360
<v Speaker 2>rock and roll, some great stories about the musicians that

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:52.560
<v Speaker 2>you love and the music you adore even more. A

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:55.440
<v Speaker 2>man who's metamor worked them all knows.

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Them alls call them friends.

0:41:56.640 --> 0:42:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Next, who doesn't love popular music, rock music, punk music,

0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:07.080
<v Speaker 2>all the rest of it is certainly the soundtrack of

0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 2>my life.

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 1>And I don't care what my little girl say.

0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, bit of Taylor every now and then we'll get

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 2>to ju Alipa, but I want to do the rock

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:15.800
<v Speaker 2>and roll. And a bloke who worked with Bowie, the Stones,

0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 2>the Spice Girls, Prince my favorite rock group of all time.

0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:20.399
<v Speaker 1>The who is Alan Edwards.

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:23.120
<v Speaker 2>He's got a book about his life which is this

0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:24.240
<v Speaker 2>absolute pearla.

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:25.600
<v Speaker 1>It is called I was there.

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:29.839
<v Speaker 2>At this damn book Father's Day, Father's Day, Father's Day

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:31.759
<v Speaker 2>by a copy for you and a copy for Dad,

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:32.880
<v Speaker 2>and Alan joins us.

0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Now I believe in the UK. Alan, love you to

0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 1>meet you. What a life? What a career in Congrats

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 1>on the book.

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:41.799
<v Speaker 5>Hi, Paul, thanks for the kind words about the book.

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:44.840
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely brilliant and likewise, I love the Who. What a

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:47.759
<v Speaker 5>great band you know that Roger Daltrey. He calls me

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:50.400
<v Speaker 5>up after every we have football at the weekends. He

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:52.959
<v Speaker 5>calls me up after every match and discuss the off

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:55.120
<v Speaker 5>sides and so on. Here is a great bloke and

0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:55.720
<v Speaker 5>what a band.

0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Can you believe?

0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Though, within a world of rock and roll where everyone

0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of gets to reinvent something every twenty years, no one,

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 2>no one's got the balls to go on stage and

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 2>swing a mic like Daltrey did in the seventies. They

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:09.879
<v Speaker 2>know it's been done. They know they can't do it.

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:12.399
<v Speaker 2>No one's going to replicate the Who, will they?

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 5>I mean the timing to swirl it and catch it

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 5>like that, and then let's not get Keith smashing up

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 5>the drum care and keep whirling with the guitar. In

0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:25.279
<v Speaker 5>a way, they were the ultimate rock group. Although I've

0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:27.759
<v Speaker 5>got to say I grew up on the Who, Stones

0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 5>and Zeppelin and they were all pretty incredible in different ways.

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's kind of ridiculous to say this. If Matt

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Rushmore could have fifty faces on it. They get their

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 2>place there also about Keith Moon, their mad drummer, mad

0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:42.839
<v Speaker 2>genius drummer. There's a story that goes back to you

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 2>sort of very early days, Frankly in your career. Tell

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:49.600
<v Speaker 2>me the TV friendly version of when a lot of

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:51.239
<v Speaker 2>people thought they were going to meet the Who, but

0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:52.919
<v Speaker 2>they were no chance of meeting the Who.

0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:58.480
<v Speaker 5>Well, we're talking about Keith Moon coming in the office

0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:00.080
<v Speaker 5>or going up to the who geg.

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Going up to the hoo Gig. I love the hoo gig.

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 5>Stock, right, So I've been in my new job. I'm

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:05.839
<v Speaker 5>working for a guy called Keith or for them, he's

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 5>the dying of music PRS and he represents everybody at Woodstock.

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:13.920
<v Speaker 5>He looks after the Moody Blues, you know, Eric Burden, everybody.

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:16.240
<v Speaker 5>In fact, he was the guy that told Jimmy Hendrix

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:19.319
<v Speaker 5>to set fire to his guitar at Monterey Pop. So

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<v Speaker 5>he said to me, I'm three days into the job.

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<v Speaker 5>He said, Alan, I want you to take the press

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<v Speaker 5>up to meet the Who at Wembley tonight, and I'm thinking, okay.

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:29.000
<v Speaker 5>He gave me a list of names and they're all

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 5>the big critics at the time, David Wig from the

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<v Speaker 5>Daily Express and John Colstrey. In fact, in those days,

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 5>critics were really like critics. One of them even had

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<v Speaker 5>a monocle, if I remember correctly. So I didn't know

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<v Speaker 5>how you did this. So I just sat, it's like

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<v Speaker 5>going to a gig with my mates. I'll call them

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<v Speaker 5>all up and tell them to meet me at Oxford

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 5>Circus at six o'clock. I didn't know that in those

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:52.400
<v Speaker 5>days you were supposed to lay on a limousine and

0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:56.040
<v Speaker 5>champagne or a private helicopter or something like that. This

0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:58.400
<v Speaker 5>is the seventies. So anyway, I tell them all to

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:00.640
<v Speaker 5>meet me at Oxford Circus. We get on the tube.

0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 5>Everyone's crushed like sardoines. I could see they're uncomfortable. We

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:08.440
<v Speaker 5>get to Wembley, doors open and they literally fall on

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 5>the platform, squeezed up, and everyone's very irritated. I thought,

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:14.359
<v Speaker 5>oh my god, I've got to save this trip. So

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 5>I said, look, i'll tell you what I promise you

0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:19.799
<v Speaker 5>all we'll get. I'll get you exclusive interviews with the who.

0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 5>Don't worry. And of course in those days there no

0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:25.440
<v Speaker 5>social media, there were no mobile phones, so I was

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 5>just having to make this up on the spot, no

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 5>I could know if it would happen. So we get

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 5>to Wembley. We weave our way through the labyrinth of corridors,

0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:36.680
<v Speaker 5>get to the Who's dressing room and I feel these

0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:39.400
<v Speaker 5>sort of ten pairs of eyes boring in my back.

0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:43.760
<v Speaker 5>So I knock on the door and it opens. I said, hello,

0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:47.160
<v Speaker 5>I'm Alan Edwards a the PR office, and someone just

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:49.959
<v Speaker 5>looks at me and says, why don't you f off?

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:53.120
<v Speaker 5>Then slammed the door in my face. And I'm standing

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 5>there and I'm thinking, well, I've got to do it

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:58.719
<v Speaker 5>again because I can feel these critics and glaring at me.

0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 1>So I tap on the door.

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:02.840
<v Speaker 5>Well, I knock on the door again. The door opens.

0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:06.040
<v Speaker 5>I said, I'm Alan Edwards and the PR office the

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 5>same voice as I've told you before, why don't you

0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:12.919
<v Speaker 5>just f off? And as I look up, I see

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:16.439
<v Speaker 5>Keith Moon Goes flying through the air in the middle

0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:18.799
<v Speaker 5>of a punch up. And I get home that night

0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:21.080
<v Speaker 5>and I thought I can't do this job. It's too hard.

0:46:21.200 --> 0:46:23.279
<v Speaker 5>And here I am half a century late and still

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:25.000
<v Speaker 5>working with a WHO lighted.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank god you did, man, because again some of

0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:30.319
<v Speaker 2>the stories and might have been an interview where you

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:32.240
<v Speaker 2>were talking about the book, but I love how you

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:34.319
<v Speaker 2>talk about a couple of the artists you've worked so

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 2>intimately with the Mick Jagger and David Bowie.

0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:38.400
<v Speaker 1>David Bowie, of course it's such.

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<v Speaker 2>A spine both business and spiritual and social for you

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:44.719
<v Speaker 2>in the book and in your life story. But you

0:46:44.800 --> 0:46:47.760
<v Speaker 2>talk about the difference between them talking to the press

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:50.759
<v Speaker 2>that say, for Bowie he was about the art of conversation.

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Jagger was the business of conversation.

0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:54.840
<v Speaker 1>What's the difference.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, they were both incredibly good communicators, and with Mick

0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:04.279
<v Speaker 5>he took meticulous detail when he was doing an interview,

0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:07.239
<v Speaker 5>wanted a doss here in beforehand. He wanted to know

0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:10.279
<v Speaker 5>the last three articles that Jonas had written, what they'd done,

0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:13.239
<v Speaker 5>and he was very much by the time I was

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:16.920
<v Speaker 5>working within nineteen eighty two, they were going in the

0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 5>big Stadium tour, so it was about selling one hundred

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:22.759
<v Speaker 5>thousand tickets tonight, so Mick really wanted to make sure

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:25.600
<v Speaker 5>everything was covered off the radio, TV.

0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Press, etc.

0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 5>And Mick had been to London School of Economics. I

0:47:29.600 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 5>think he had a great understanding of business and he

0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 5>was effectively the manager of the group in some ways.

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:40.759
<v Speaker 5>At that time. David just loved conversation, he loved journalism,

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:43.600
<v Speaker 5>he loved writers. In fact, a lot of our relationship

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:45.840
<v Speaker 5>was sort of almost built on books. He was always

0:47:45.840 --> 0:47:48.480
<v Speaker 5>giving me books. I'd give him books. I remember doing

0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:51.640
<v Speaker 5>that going around Australia with him. So he loved and

0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 5>he became friends with a lot of the writers. He'd

0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 5>often call them up and say, someone like Tony Parsons,

0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:59.920
<v Speaker 5>famous writer and now author. He'd call me up and say, oh,

0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:02.359
<v Speaker 5>that David Bowie on the phone last night, called up

0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:06.799
<v Speaker 5>for a chat. So they both had the same They

0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:11.120
<v Speaker 5>were in some ways remarkably similar, and both incredibly hard

0:48:11.160 --> 0:48:15.640
<v Speaker 5>working and focused, very charming to be with, and two

0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:17.800
<v Speaker 5>of the greatest rock and roll stars we'll ever see.

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<v Speaker 2>Buddy Oath, Now, let's deal with some of the news

0:48:19.880 --> 0:48:22.080
<v Speaker 2>around today. Have you heard anything is o Is this

0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:24.399
<v Speaker 2>getting back together or are we falling for some sort

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:26.120
<v Speaker 2>of a pr hook here?

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:34.000
<v Speaker 5>Well, I had to say definitely, maybe abuse. I think

0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:37.600
<v Speaker 5>it's very telling that there's been no denial issued. I

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:39.840
<v Speaker 5>mean the stories a bit sounded have got a feel

0:48:39.840 --> 0:48:40.960
<v Speaker 5>of authority about them.

0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:44.600
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes an act will let that run because it builds

0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:46.719
<v Speaker 5>up the interest and it hypes up the money and

0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 5>the offers get better. But this has the feeling you know,

0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:53.080
<v Speaker 5>it's going to be very hard to put the genie

0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:56.960
<v Speaker 5>back in the bottle. Although rock stars, like everyone else

0:48:57.080 --> 0:48:59.920
<v Speaker 5>now in Australia, they do have the right to disconnect,

0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:00.799
<v Speaker 5>so you never know.

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Ah good Man, he was listening before allan sensational book.

0:49:05.000 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 1>I could talk to you all night.

0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:08.319
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait for the podcast version and all the

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:09.960
<v Speaker 2>stories when that's right for you.

0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:12.239
<v Speaker 1>In the meantime, that's the book I was there.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye bye bye this Father's Day Alan, Thank you mate so.

0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:19.240
<v Speaker 5>Much, Paul, and hopefully see you down there sooner.

0:49:19.080 --> 0:49:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Or later, Bloody Oath. All right, that's our show tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>We look forward to the late debate rock it on

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<v Speaker 2>right now,