1 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: You can listen to the Front on your smart speaker 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: every morning to hear the latest episode. Just say play 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: the news from the Australian. 4 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: From the Australian, here's what's on the Front. I'm Claire Harvey. 5 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 2: Christopher Michael Dawson will stay in jail. He has lost 6 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 2: an appeal against his conviction for the murder of his wife, Lynnette. 7 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 2: That case was made famous by our podcast The Teacher's 8 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: Pet and has ended in another humiliation for Dawson. Today, 9 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 2: the moment Rinn's family found out Dawson would stay in 10 00:00:53,040 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: jail and what his next move might be. Hello, Oh, 11 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: hy Marilyn, it's Claire. Hi, Claire, how are you? 12 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: That is the longest law and tired seventh running. 13 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: Living just moments after a momentous decision. The latest twist 14 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 2: in the story of Christopher Michael Dawson. I rank Greg 15 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: and Marilyn Simms, the brother and sister in law of 16 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: the wife Chris murdered in nineteen eighty two. 17 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 4: Lynnett Well waiting for the judges to come out. They're 18 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 4: verdict if you want to call it. 19 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: That very tense and it's the longest minute I've had 20 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 3: in my life. 21 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 4: Waiting and listening. 22 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: To call Greg and Marilyn relieved would be an understatement. 23 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: Greg and Marilyn are the guardians of Lynn's memory, along 24 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: with the rest of her family. They're the ones who 25 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: have kept the flame alive for forty two years as 26 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: their suspicions grew that their bright, warm, devoted Lynn did 27 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: not voluntarily leave her family as her husband claimed, but 28 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: had been murdered in cold blood. Greg and Marilyn had 29 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: liked and trusted Chris, Lynn's handsome, football playing teacher husband. 30 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: They were deeply confused and upset when he told Lynn's 31 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: family in nineteen eighty two that Lynn had gone away 32 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: for a break and that Lynn had told him not 33 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 2: to worry about her. By the time the Australians investigative 34 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: podcast The Teacher's Pet, created by our colleague Headley Thomas, 35 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 2: was released in twenty eighteen, Greg and Marilyn were convinced 36 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: Chris was a murderer. They'd seen an inept initial police investigation, 37 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: then a competent investigation led by Detective Damian Lohne, then 38 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: to coroners recommend charges against Chris, and then the heartbreak 39 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: of prosecutors steadfastly declining to charge him. In August twenty 40 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 2: twenty two, the family finally got the conviction they believed 41 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 2: was right. 42 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 5: Christopher Michael Dawson on the charge the diner about eight 43 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 5: January nineteen eighty two at Bayview or elsewhere in the 44 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 5: state of New South Wales, you did murder Lynette Dawson. 45 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 5: I find you guilty. 46 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 2: And then the sense of dread returned as Dawson launched 47 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: an appeal against that murder conviction. 48 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 6: Teacher's pet killer Chris Dawson has begun an appeal against 49 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 6: his conviction for murdering wife Lynette more than four decades ago. 50 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 6: A seventy five year old former rugby league star once 51 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 6: a court to overturn his conviction for killing his wife 52 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 6: Lynette in nineteen eighty two. His legal team claims here's 53 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 6: the victim of a miscarriage of justice and that it 54 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 6: was unreasonable for the trial judge to find him guilty. 55 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: I spoke to Greg and Marilyn in me the early 56 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: afternoon on Thursday, shortly before or the New South Wales 57 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: Court of Criminal Appeal handed down its decision. They were 58 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: nervous then and by the time the two pm hearing 59 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: clicked around, they told me they had knots in their stomachs. 60 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: The judges swept into the room and took their seats 61 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: for what turned out to be a lightning quick sitting 62 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,119 Speaker 2: of the Court of Criminal Appeal, New South Wales's highest court. 63 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: The judges words are being read by voice actors. 64 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 7: I propose the following orders. One grant leave to appeal, 65 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 7: two dismiss the appeal. I publish my reasons, Justice Pain. 66 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 8: I agree with the orders proposed by Justice Adamson, and 67 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 8: I publish a note of my reasons. 68 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 9: I agree with Justice Adamson and with the supplementary observations 69 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 9: of Justice Pain, and I publish my concurring judgment. The 70 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 9: orders of the Court will therefore be one grant leave 71 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 9: to appeal, two dismiss The appeal. Court is now adjourned. 72 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: In other words, the judges accepted Chris Dawson could appeal 73 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: to The court heard the appeal and rejected it. His 74 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: conviction for Lynn's murder stands. The judges published reasons made 75 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: it crystal clear. First Justice Anthony Payne. 76 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 7: I have no doubt about the applicants guilt. 77 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: Justice Julie Ward. 78 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 9: The circumstantial case against the applicant was compelling, and there 79 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 9: is no reasonable doubt as to the applicants guilt. No 80 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 9: substantial miscarriage of justice has occurred. Justice Christine Adamson. 81 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 7: None of the arguments advanced on behalf of the applicant 82 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 7: causes me to doubt the applicant's guilt of murder. 83 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 3: We are extremely happy and the law has done the 84 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 3: right thing in our minds. 85 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: And what do you hope Chris Dawson does now? 86 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 4: I hope he sits back in his cell and enjoy 87 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 4: us in the next twenty years. 88 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 8: Yes, and we both feel that this way for the 89 00:05:58,839 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 8: end he. 90 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 4: Will keep here all girl. As far as a game, 91 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 4: we're very. 92 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 8: Grateful that justice has been done as far as we're 93 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 8: concerned twice over now, and hopefully if he's going to 94 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 8: proceed any further, we just hope that whoever has to 95 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 8: make the decision as to whether he's allowed to proceed 96 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 8: any further really thinks carefully about using the public purse enough. 97 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 8: I think this money needs throw other very worthwhile causes 98 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 8: as well. 99 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: This should be the last time we see Christopher Michael 100 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 2: Dawson in a courtroom, but it won't be this humiliation. 101 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: His appeal flatly rejected by the Court of Criminal Appeal 102 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: means Dawson should finally accept the decision of Justice Ian 103 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: Harrison of August twenty twenty two. It's still possible he 104 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: could appeal to the High Court of Australia. The High 105 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: Court doesn't hear every case. First, Dawson would have to 106 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 2: persuade the Public Defender's Office to take his appeal. To 107 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: be heard by the High Court, he would first have 108 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: to see special leave to appeal, and would have to 109 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: demonstrate that it was a matter worthy of the High 110 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: Court's consideration. The Court says bluntly on its website, only 111 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: cases of major importance are heard by the High Court. 112 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: Usually that means the case raises some new point of 113 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: law that hasn't been considered before, or is of high 114 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: public importance, or that a High Court hearing is essential 115 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: to clarify a question of law that has been decided 116 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: in inconsistent ways by lower courts. The Court might hear 117 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: something that involves the question of the administration of justice. 118 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: That is a case that is highly significant, not just 119 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: for one person, but for a whole legal system. Dawson 120 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: has tried this before and failed during the years in 121 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 2: which he was fighting the Crown's right to take him 122 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: to trial at all. He sought to have the whole 123 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: case thrown out. The Supreme Court rejected him, so he 124 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: went to the Court of Criminal Appeal, which also rejected him. 125 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: He then sought special leave to appeal to the High 126 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: Court and was knocked back. Dawson also has another criminal 127 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: conviction for the unlawful carnal knowledge of a sixteen year 128 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: old schoolgirl who was in his class when he was 129 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: desperate to get rid of Lynn and be with the girl. Indeed, 130 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: after Lynn's disappearance, Dawson married the former pupil. In twenty 131 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: twenty three, the New South Wales District Court found Dawson 132 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: guilty of the carnal knowledge offense and sentenced him to 133 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: three years imprisonment. He could, of course also appeal that 134 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: conviction and sentence. What are you guys going to do now? 135 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 8: I think probably failed if the fifthhone courts have already 136 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 8: had dozens of texts, just just so lovely to have 137 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 8: the support the people in Australia and possibly the world 138 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 8: have just been so behind this and behind this conviction, 139 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 8: holding and with value very much the support and comfort 140 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 8: we've received from so many people far and wide, lots 141 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 8: of people very invested in this story, Claire. 142 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: So here's how Chris Dawson tried to get out of 143 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: the murder conviction where Justice Harrison found he killed Lynn 144 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: sims on or about the eighth of January nineteen eighty two. 145 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: Dawson had five grounds. First, that Dawson suffered a significant 146 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: forensic disadvantage in defending himself when the matter was finally 147 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: brought to trial forty years after Lynn vanished from Sydney's 148 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 2: northern beaches. That means evidence like statements, records and receipts 149 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: have disappeared or been destroyed, and it makes it a 150 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 2: lot harder for Dawson to back up his version of events. 151 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: Here's what Dawson's barrister, at Belinda Rigg SC said about 152 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: that in court. She's referring to the account of the 153 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: late Sue Butler, who said she saw someone who looked 154 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 2: like Lynn Simms getting into a car at a fruit 155 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 2: market on the New South Wales Central Coast. Belinda Riggs's 156 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: words are being read aloud by a voice actor. 157 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: That's a very clear example of a deceased person whose 158 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: evidence was crucial. That very type of detail has been 159 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: lost because of the delay. All we have is an 160 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: impoverished hearsay account from her former husband. 161 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: Rigg said Justice Harrison got it wrong when he failed 162 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: to find a significant forensic disadvantage existed, and that he 163 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: should have taken it into account when considering the evidence 164 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: presented at Dawson's ten week trial. But the three judge 165 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: bench said Justice Harrison did adequately consider the fact many 166 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: witnesses were now deceased and unable to give evidence in court. 167 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 7: I consider that, for the reasons given by the trial judge, 168 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 7: his honor was correct to consider that the unavailability of 169 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 7: Philip day, Ellen, McBay, Ross Hutchin and Sue Butlin did 170 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 7: not cause significant forensic disadvantage to the applicant. 171 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 2: They also said the unavailability of paperwork like bank statements, 172 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: phone records and employee rosters didn't put Chris Dawson so 173 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: far behind the eight ball that he couldn't have mounted 174 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: a solid defense at trial. 175 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 7: No error of process or result has been established. 176 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 2: The second and third round of Chris Dawson's appeal are 177 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: two sides of the same coin. They say Justice and 178 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: Harrison was wrong to find that Chris Dawson's lies were 179 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: evidence of his consciousness of guilt. Basically, that means Harrison 180 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 2: found Dawson knew he was guilty and so told a 181 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: bunch of lies about Lynn's purported whereabouts in order to 182 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: cover his tracks. The public defender for Dawson, Belinda riggerc 183 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: argued Harrison gave inadequate reasons for relying on those lies 184 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: as evidence of Dawson's guilt. Rigg also argued Crown Prosecutor 185 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 2: Craig Everson didn't rely upon those lies as part of 186 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: his case, and so Harrison shouldn't have. Either. Justices Ward, 187 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 2: Adamson and Paine agreed. They said the language in Justice 188 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: Harrison's judgment was ambiguous, the trial judge's reasons revealed error 189 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: and did not comply with Section one hundred and thirty 190 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: three to two of the Criminal Procedure Act or the 191 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: common law obligation to give reasons. Okay, deep breath here, 192 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: this is complicated stuff. The accepted rule is that a 193 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 2: lie can only be used as an implied admission of 194 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 2: guilds if the prosecutor relies on the lie for that purpose. 195 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: So a judge or jury in this case of judge 196 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: can only find a liear's consciousness of guilt if the 197 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: prosecutor has also put it that way, and the prosecutor 198 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: has to prove a few key things. The lie has 199 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: to be deliberate, it has to be a lie told 200 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 2: because the accused knew the truth would implicate the mi 201 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: me offense, and it's made clear to the judge or 202 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: jury that there may be other reasons for the lie. 203 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: And this is where Justice Harrison made a mistake. According 204 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: to the Court of Appeal, they said Justice Harrison took 205 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: the lies that the Crown Prosecutor said were consciousness of guilt, 206 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: but also referenced other lies by Dawson and didn't make 207 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 2: clear which ones he thought were consciousness of guilt. This 208 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: was an error in his honor's reasoning. The fourth ground 209 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: of Dawson's appeal was that the evidence proving Lynn was 210 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: dead after January ninth, nineteen eight two was inadequate and 211 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: the Crown prosecutor didn't prove Dawson's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, 212 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: But the Court of Criminal Appeal judges backed Justice Harrison. 213 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 7: Having reviewed all of the evidence, I am not persuaded 214 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 7: that the verdict of guilty of murder was unreasonable. None 215 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 7: of the arguments advanced on behalf of the applicant by 216 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 7: Miss Rigg causes me to doubt the applicants guilt of murder. 217 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 2: Coming up what the Court of Appeal found about what 218 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: happened at Northbridge Bars stay with us. The final ground 219 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: of Chris Dawson's appeal was that a miscarriage of justice 220 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 2: occurred when Justice and Harrison found Chris Dawson guilty of 221 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: the murder of lind Sims. This was all about the 222 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: fine detail of what happened at Northbridge Barns, the public 223 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 2: ocean pool where Dawson worked as a lifeguard on the 224 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 2: day after Lind's disappe ahearance. Dawson has always claimed he 225 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: took a phone call from Lynn when he was working 226 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 2: at the baths on January ninth, nineteen eighty two. Dawson 227 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: had taken his two young daughters there on that hot 228 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 2: January day and recruited Lynn's mum, Helena, and a friend, 229 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: Philip Day, to help look after them. He said he'd 230 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: drop Lynn at a bus stop in Mona Vale earlier 231 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: that day, and she'd joined them at some point in 232 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: the afternoon. Then Dawson says he received a call from 233 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: Lynn at the kiosk at the baths saying she was 234 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: going away for a while. But after forty long years, 235 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: the people who were at the Bath's on that day 236 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: couldn't remember if the call happened, or if it did, 237 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: if it was Lynn on the other end, Just as 238 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: Harrison found this story of Dawson's was a lie, but 239 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: there was no phone call and Dawson knew it. Vers 240 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: is the point the public defender argued with. Rigg said 241 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: Harrison was wrong in his interpretation of this alleged lie. 242 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: Rigg also said the Crown had not actually proved Lynn 243 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: was dead on this day on Thursday. Justice's Ward Adamson 244 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,479 Speaker 2: and Payne found no miscarriage of justice occurred. 245 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 7: I am satisfied that in rejecting the north Bridge Bard's 246 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 7: phone call and other evidence relied upon by the applicant 247 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 7: as indicating that the deceased might be alive after the 248 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 7: evening of eight January nineteen eighty two or the morning 249 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 7: of nine January nineteen eighty two, the trial judge had 250 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 7: regard to the whole of the evidence as sufficiently indicated 251 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 7: by his honors reasons Lynn's story has really touched people. 252 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 8: It really has. And I think we've all said this 253 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 8: case has just been such a land mark case and 254 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 8: it continues to be. There's just it'll go down in 255 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 8: history as I don't note putting benchmarks and making venchmarks. 256 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 8: I think the future law and pretty astounding. 257 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 4: I think the best thing that we've done. We've had 258 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 4: the arrest, we've had all the thoughts of eels and 259 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 4: all that sort of thing, and then we've had the trial. 260 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 4: We've had a guilty verdict, We've got Linn's Law into operation, 261 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 4: and we're going just shit back and say we've done 262 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 4: the best we can and go from there, and now 263 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 4: we can try and live our lives again. 264 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 8: Let's hope and pray we can. Yeah, let's hope we're 265 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 8: free to move on. 266 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: Now these three eminent I disagree with you that Chris 267 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: did kill in Yeah. 268 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 4: I'm just having goosebumps and shivers there. Yeah. 269 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, it'll eat home soon. 270 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 4: But it takes in a lot of thinking sitting here 271 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 4: tonight watching the news, and when it comes on we'll 272 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 4: just go, oh, bugger, thanks great. 273 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 3: There's always somebody who comes back in relation to it. 274 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 3: But we know we've got this one and now let's 275 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: hope he just has enough sense to say. I've tried 276 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 3: to get out of it. They won't listen to me. 277 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: I'll just do my time. 278 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 2: Who had the best Aussie song of all time? Was 279 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: it Daddy Cool, Yothy Yindi or Akadaka. Andrew McMillan and 280 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 2: Alan Howe have whittled the long list of brilliant Australian 281 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 2: made tunes down to just sixty in honor of the 282 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 2: paper's sixtieth anniversary. You can read the full list of 283 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: the best Australian songs of all time right now at 284 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: the Australian dot com dot au. Thanks for joining us 285 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: on the front this week. Our team is Kristin Amiot, 286 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: Lea Sammagluo, Joshua Burton, Jas the League, Tiffany Dinmak, Matthew 287 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: Condon and meet Claire Harvey.