WEBVTT - Outsiders | 17 November 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.440 Opinion on Sky News, Ostrudya starts now. 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:22.320 This is Outside. Good morning and welcome to outsiders. This 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:27.360 show that is too woke leftist tears and ongoing Trump 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:32.839 derangement syndrome. What comedy is to soothing the soul of 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:33.400 the left. 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:38.080 Are you distraught after the recent presidential election? Here at 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:41.479 don't cry crying. We understand your pain and we're here 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:45.959 to help. Our expert team of cryogenic care providers can 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:50.080 cryogenically freeze you until the Trump presidency has ended. No 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:54.360 more crying, no more anxiety attacks, just blissful sleep until 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:58.080 Trump is gone. 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Well, the AI generators certainly had fun with 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:26.280 that one. 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:35.079 And now while we wait for BFFs Don and Joe 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.919 to finish their round of golf together at Marlago, let's 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.399 grab the latest outside his news. 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.120 Well, Recha and James. 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:50.480 The Trump administration is stunning and Sensation will be talking 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.760 a lot about that later in the program. But it's 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:56.240 blowing left to SAIDs to pieces. They cannot cope with 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.760 the people that are coming on board the Trump train. 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:02.040 And great news for our Ciders fans with the rumors 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:04.920 are that Jay Battachari will be up there in the 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:05.839 Trump administration. 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:08.480 You remember Jay Batachari. 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:11.640 He is here on Outsiders at the very first week 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:15.120 of COVID, telling people, no, no, no, don't worry about 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:17.800 all this. It'll be okay, just a little bit of 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:20.680 sensible social distancing. You don't need lockdowns, you don't need this, 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:21.760 you don't need that. 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:22.480 Of course he was. 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.760 Ignored, he was defamed fout she went after him, But 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:29.000 he was on Outsiders all the way through COVID, giving 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.680 sound advice and sensible advice, which is what he'll be 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:36.680 doing with Donald Trump in the White House. Fantastic news 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:39.200 Rita another great appointment as well. 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:44.240 Well, yeah, that one is a certain. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.840 He's right, it'll happen. It's rumored to be happening. 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:53.240 Chris Wright has been selected as his Secretary of Energy. 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:59.880 Is a fossil fuels magnate expert. He is very sound, 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:04.520 very sensible on the issues of climate change, energy security, 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:05.760 and what. 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.920 Fossil fuels mean for human. 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:15.200 Flourishing and prosperity, and really advancing not just countries like 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:19.359 America and Australia, but the developing nations, giving them the 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.039 sort of living standards we take for granted, which is 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:26.479 kind of lost in this whole climate change catastrophist worldview 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:30.000 that the West has adopted and so it's yeah, he's 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:34.680 absolutely uncompromising in his selections. Yeah, whether we're talking about 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:39.240 the Defense secretary, we're talking about the CIA director, every 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:44.320 single pick is calculated. It's clear his transition team has 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.840 been working for months. This is not just something he 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.440 has decided since he won the election a week ago. 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:53.039 So he is going to learn from the mistakes of 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:56.279 his first term, and most of those mistakes were personnel based, 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.440 and we are going to get a team that is 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.279 going to liver He's agenda, the agenda the American people 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:02.760 voted for. 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:08.840 Absolutely, James, you just welcome back, thanks very much. But 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:11.279 you got the restaurants. Oh sorry, I mean you did 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.680 it all the hobbit, all the hard work. But welcome back, thank. 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:15.000 You very much. 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.600 But it is you know, what Rita said is absolutely 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:19.600 right here. You know, just to go back to the 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:23.280 Jay Batticharia pick for a moment. This is this really 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.000 represents what I think people haven't fully gotten about. What 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:31.080 this administration too, is undoing the incalculable damage of the 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:34.320 entire year twenty twenty, and that included the pandemic, that 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:38.279 included BLM and Antifa, that included the election, and this 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:41.440 is a ship writing itself and getting Jay Baticharia in 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:44.840 there at NIH after he was victimized, after there was 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.880 a concerted effort to shut down him and the other 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:51.240 authors of the Great Barrington Declaration. Don't forget that document. 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:52.200 That was very key. 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:54.200 And you know from the emails that came out with 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:57.600 Fauci that there was a concerted effort to shut this 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:01.520 guy down. He was, you know, ultimately proved right. We 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.359 knew he was right along. We had him on this 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:06.960 show many times, but also on this energy pick here. 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.600 You know, this guy is an oil field services magnate. 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:14.159 He's involved in the whole industry. And this sets a 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:21.280 further gap between the United States and Australia. And if 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:25.080 alban Ez, if if you know Albaneseu remains as Prime 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:29.919 Minister and continues with this net zero obsession that he 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:34.520 has and insanity, then we are going to wind up 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:38.600 being a relatively much poorer nation than the United States. 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:39.400 We're going to. 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.880 Energy because they pay a lot less for electricity than 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.400 we do. Despite the fact that we are sitting on 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:51.680 the enormous amounts of coal, uranium, enormous amounts. 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:55.640 Of gas, and we are absolutely. 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:58.839 Going down a road of financial ruin, and it's deliberate, 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:04.520 it's crazy. Already, even before the Trump administration takes over, 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:09.520 America's ahead of us. They've embraced nuclear. They're both sides. 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.480 Of session Democrats too. 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:16.200 Obama was fracking like a champion. Even under Obama they 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.720 were fracking. Of course, Kamala said old band fracking on 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.160 day one, but even she had to do a backfleep 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:25.480 when she was during this presidential campaign. So they are 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:30.960 already ahead of us under the Democrats. Loopy rain. Imagine 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.000 what it's going to be like once it's going to 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:36.680 be It's going to be drill, baby, drill, day and night. 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:38.040 It's unbelievable. 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.080 Sorry, it's just unbelieve It's worth pointing out that we 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.080 are that America and Trump are heading in one direction, 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:44.640 full steam. 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.320 Ahead financial prosperity. 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:47.040 We're heading in. 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:50.760 Completely the opposite direction under Alberan easy absolute lunacy. 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:52.920 But just quickly back to the Jay Batticharia thing. 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:56.240 James just reminded me one of the reasons that Rita 0:07:56.280 --> 0:08:00.200 and I were defamed in the Australian Senate, one of 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:04.080 the many reasons was because we had had Jay Battasharia 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:05.040 on this show. 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:05.920 So there you go. 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.720 I hope the rumors do come true and he is 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:10.000 in the White House speakers. 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.679 My goodness, everything. 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:14.440 We didn't just pluck him off the East. 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:19.280 Jay Batasharia was an expert, a genuine expert, leading experts 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.640 and infectious diseases, professor of. 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:24.440 Public health and economics. 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:28.200 Yes, who refused to count out of the Boucher line. 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.040 Must get him back on before he gets snapped up 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.760 by getting back on, definitely. Now let's talk about Now 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:38.840 you mentioned the dire straits we are in because of 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:42.000 the alban Easy, Chris Bow and green agenda. There's a 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:48.000 five hundred billion dollar that's half a trillion dollars a greenhole. 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.479 They're calling it a bombshell. 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:55.000 Report says that you know, basically they've been telling Porky's 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:57.640 the Labor Party about the cost of all this stuff. 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.640 James, Yeah, So look, this is all stuff that's come 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:04.240 out of the last forty eight seventy two hours. On Friday, 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.360 I saw Shadow Energy Minister Ted O'Brien deliver a speech 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:11.360 at the Daily Telegraphs Bradfielderation where he dropped this news 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:17.040 that modeling by Frontier Economics has found that basically labor 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:20.640 has cooked the books. You know, the whole cost of 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.440 going to this full you know net zero is going 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.880 to be for the whole grid, for supplying it, for 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:29.040 getting it to your house, for building basically the entire 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.240 second power system that you need to build to back 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.200 up the first one that's intermittent and doesn't work is 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:39.360 going to be five hundred billion with a B dollars, 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.160 that is half a trillion dollars. 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:42.640 This speech, I. 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:46.440 Think at this news game and this week, yeah more 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:50.679 more this, So this mark my words. This is going 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.400 to be where Peter Duttan stakes the claim. This is 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.800 where you know the election is going to go because 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:57.480 this billion dollars more. 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:03.000 Yeah, Well, there's the hydrogen controversy that's ongoing at the moment, 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:05.520 where oh, what a great plan. Let's take the nullabore 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:09.920 plane and stick windmills and green hydred and this all 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:13.960 over it. I mean, these people are lunatics. They seriously are. 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:19.920 Three thousand wind time wind turbine, sixty million solar panels 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:24.360 across two point twenty nine million hectares of crown land, 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:28.960 and past releases. Honestly, honestly, let's just go back to 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.520 our coal five power plants, so we can all have cheap, 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:35.400 abundant energy likely used to without all this garbage that 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:38.000 these clowns in the Labor Party are foisting on us. 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.000 Can I make a point here too, you know, we 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:43.920 just there's such a lesson here for the Labor Party, right. 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:47.080 You know, if they paid any attention to what happened 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:48.920 a couple of weeks ago at the election of the 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:52.360 United States, they would see that this strategy of pitting 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:55.679 the cities against the regions does not work. They are 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.800 going to lose all of Australia except for the most 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.560 inner city seats and that's the way to win government. 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:05.000 There is a qualifyer to that. That's when you've got 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:10.959 two sides who give you two clearly defined and I'll 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:14.120 be talking about that in the next segment. 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:16.840 In my it's a tramper all. 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:20.000 Because when it comes to state level. You show me 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:23.839 the difference between the Liberals and Labor in New South 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:27.360 Wales and Victoria when it comes to energy policy, because 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.320 a lot of this is state based as well. 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:31.199 It's not all the federal government. 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:35.599 And even when we go to Peter Dutton in the 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:40.440 nuclear plan that sound but coalition is an abandoning net zero. 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:42.760 They're still on this net zero bandwagon. They just want 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.760 to get there via nuclear as opposed to completely destroying 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:49.720 our economy. But they're also not embracing the fact that 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:53.040 we've got hundreds, perhaps thousands of years of gas. 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.520 Reserves under US coal uranium. 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:59.240 Obviously we need uranium for nuclear, So we don't have 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:02.920 that clear that the American pub and you. 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:04.920 Raise a very good point reata, which is that Donald 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:08.000 Trump will pull out of the Paris Agreement. Therefore the 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:12.400 Paris Agreement is utterly meaningless. Only fools and frauds are 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:17.680 engaged in the Paris Agreement without the States, basically China, India, 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:21.480 the russiall will do whatever they want on the energy 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:22.280 front and. 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:23.400 Merrily go their way. 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.760 We are fools if we stay signed up to Paris, 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.760 and Peter Dutton should make it an absolute priority going 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:33.680 into the election that he will also pull out of 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.920 the Paris Agreement. That should be a priority. I sometimes 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.040 wonder do the Libs really want to win the next election, 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:40.760 because if they did, that would be at the top 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:44.160 of the ticket. But what the dead giveaway James was 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:49.840 when at a pak the Chinese delegation praised Anthony Albanesis. 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.640 This is the type of leader the West should have. 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:56.000 That's the giveaway, that's the tell. Now you know, you've 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.280 got to punt the Albanzi government, keet them as far 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:00.920 away from the seat of power as you possibly can. 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.480 If the Chinese are saying that's who we need in power, 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:05.840 you can bet your bottom dollar that's the last person 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:06.120 we know. 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:09.079 So handsome boy is winning the praises of Beijing. 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:10.800 That's worry. 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:14.439 And you know this is also I think trying to 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.640 knows exactly what they're doing here, because they have rolled 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:21.439 a grenade right into the electoral politics of the next election. 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.760 Because of course, you know, there's a lot of twenty 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.960 twenty hindsight on the twenty twenty two election about Scott 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:32.560 Morrison's fierce rhetoric about Shiner costing him some seats. So 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.079 this is a very cynical point Peter and asks me 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.680 very careful about how he handles this one as well. 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:41.800 Well. Costs Scott Morrison last election was signing up to 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.640 net zero. That's what cost him the election and that's 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:47.160 why Peter Dutton should be abandoning pulling out of Paris. 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:51.320 But another thing where the Albanese government has been disgraceful, 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:55.360 disgusting this week, and that was with Penny Wong and 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:59.720 Palestine sovereignty to the areas of the West Bank voting 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.720 and in the United Nations for something that Australia has 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.880 always stayed away from. And of course yet again, how 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:09.360 many is this six seven times Penny Wong has stabbed 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:13.720 Israel close alia ally of ours and stabbed the Jews 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.520 of Australia in the back or even in the front. 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.520 This is a disgrace what is going on. 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:21.680 Rita and it will be very interesting to see how 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:25.880 the Jewish community react at the next election. Obviously their 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:30.960 numbers are small, much smaller than other demographic groups, including 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:34.920 the Muslim community. But we saw in the US we've 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:39.200 seen the Democrats not exactly be fantastic allies of Israeli 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:42.320 and the overwhelming majority of the Jewish population they're still 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:45.120 voted Democrat. There was a bit of a fracture, but 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:49.080 nowhere as much as you would expect. Interestingly, they did 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.920 polling in Israel. Obviously Israelis don't have a vote in 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:55.160 the US election, but overwhelming majority of Israeli said if 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:58.800 they did have a vote, they would vote for Trump on. 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.120 What's interesting about that too is that if you've got 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.520 to places like Dearborn, Michigan, which is a huge Muslim 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:07.200 popular they went for Trump too, which you know shows you, 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.040 you know, it tells you a lot. But the other 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.720 interesting thing too again, you know, we've spoken a lot 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.120 about a Legraspender, and we've spoken a lot about the 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:17.560 Teals and they're signing up for that support for autumn. 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:17.880 Wah. 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:23.120 This this is going to I think, you know, put 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:27.240 Wetworth very seriously in play as well, because because it's 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:28.880 a large Jewish community and that electorate. 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:33.680 Well, speaking about the Teals, let's talk about the combating misinformation. 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.720 This information Bill I e. 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.200 Albanese is Orwellian. 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:43.200 Censorship bill, most disgraceful censorship bill. It's up there straight 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:47.800 out of nineteen eighty four censoring the Internet, having a 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.760 group called Akma who would decide what is information, what 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:54.920 is misinformation, what is disinformation? And it looks like the 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:58.680 latest reports over the weekend are that four of the 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:02.680 Senators independent sentences will vote against these things. What it's 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:04.920 looking like now, so it looks like the thing is dead. 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.880 But just remember it got through the House of Reps 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.800 thanks to Labor and the teals. 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:12.880 Jane, Yes, it did. 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.960 It's really fascinating here that Fatima Payman, who of course 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:19.280 pulled the pin on Labor so spectacularly earlier this year, 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:21.880 has just come out and said no, she will not 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:23.240 vote for the Misinformation Bill. 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.200 So, I mean, you know, you take your allies. 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:26.680 Where you get with this sort of thing. I think 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:28.920 it's on life support. I wouldn't say it's dead yet. 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.520 They've got a very busy parliamentary agenda coming up over 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:32.800 the two weeks, a lot of bills they want to 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.880 get through, so may get kicked into next year before 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:36.320 the election. 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:37.280 We'll see. 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:39.760 But this, I don't think people really understand just how 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.600 sinister it is, because it was going to force the 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:46.440 social media companies to be the first arbiter of these things, 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:51.280 the just sheer misinformation, deception and lies that the government 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.920 used to put forward this bill and argue for it, 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:58.360 including you know, basically verbaling some of the submissions that 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:00.480 were given to it that were against it, saying oh 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:03.840 they were pro and you know, beyond that. But if 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:06.160 you even go into you even go into the explanatory 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:07.879 memorandum and the legislation. 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:08.959 Yes, opinion. 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.520 HiT's all about it now absolutely criminalized. 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:16.760 Yes, to explain their bill and to advocate for it. 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:20.600 The examples of so called dangerous misinformation that they use 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:25.239 were a misinformation themselves. They misquoted and lied about what 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:29.240 Donald Trump said. It's about supposedly injecting bleep. Yeah, yeah, right, 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:32.240 that was one of their examples. So they are guilty 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:36.120 of misinformation in pushing their misinformation bill. 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:37.720 I mean, it's like a comedy routine. 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:39.240 Yeah, it is a comedy routine. 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.840 And finally enough it will be in clown show later on, 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.080 in the show, which is where it belongs. You are 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.680 right that opinion is clearly in there. And serious harm, 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:50.040 serious arm is basically whatever you want to call it 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.000 is basic criticism of the economy is serious harm to 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.760 the Australian economy. So an opinion about the economy of 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.680 the country can be censored under this bill. And that 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:01.959 is political sense to ship up there with George orwell. 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:05.119 And we have to say to again sorry that you 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:07.359 know this came out of the last Liberal government. 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:11.840 I know, well, this was a Paul Fletcher creation. 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:16.080 So let us get that, you know, and this belief 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:18.639 and this belief that you need to destroy free speech 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:20.719 in order to save it, just like in America they 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:23.840 wanted to destroy democracy in order to save it. This 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:27.320 is really sinister stuff and we need to just get 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.439 full final clarity from the Peter Dutton and the Coalition 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.639 that there will be no attempt to introduce a liberal 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:37.119 coalition version of this if they win power. 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:40.480 Absolutely, that must be a firm commitment. And let's hope 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:43.200 those four Chanadens hold firm because we want this thing 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:46.360 dead and buried. But there is another arm to this, 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:49.679 and the James kind of touched on it. This is 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:53.680 the social media ban for people under sixteen. Now this 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:58.440 is you know, again the Peter Dutton and the Libs 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:00.359 or some of the Libs seem to be in favor 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:03.160 of or are in favor of this idea. This idea 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:08.880 is so stupid banning social media. No, you ban the pornography, 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:11.679 you ban the child exploitation, you do whatever it is. 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:15.560 You don't ban the means of communication by which so 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:19.240 many kids learn things. And as we saw at the 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:22.280 Trump election, the means of communication which brought a whole 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:26.680 generation to Donald Trump. You banned social media for under sixteens. 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:29.320 That is lud eyed stuff. 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:32.639 It's unbelievable and it's insane that you can't have a 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:37.000 fifteen year old, for example, in Australia, watching YouTube videos. 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:39.080 But they can submit to. 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:44.399 Puberty blockers, irreverssal treatments, they can submit to all sorts 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:48.760 of craziness that will have lifelong medical impact on them 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:52.400 and their wellbeing. It could leave them sterile, that's okay, 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:57.080 But they can't watch YouTube videos, they can't be on Instagram. 0:19:57.200 --> 0:20:00.520 Now I understand that there's all sorts of theories about 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:06.080 social media doing significant harm to teenagers, and fine, that 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:08.840 has to be a parental issue that is not a 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:13.400 government issue. And by instituting this span it means all 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:16.080 of us regardless of your age. You could be sixty five, 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:19.479 if you want to access Instagram, you've now got some 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.720 sort of a digital id in effect to prove that 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:24.840 you are in fact over sixteen. 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:27.880 So pether Dunton wrote an article in the Daily Telegraph 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:30.760 in which he said that he wanted to ban social 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.159 media for under sixteens. It was like crack cocaine. It 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:35.840 was like this, It was like tobacco whatever, whatever, all 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:41.080 of this stuff. Senator Matt Canavan made the very salient point. 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:45.440 He came out on social media saying it's like banning 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:48.399 under eighteen under sixteens from going on social media is 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:51.000 like burning down the library to stop the kids reading 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:52.280 a couple of porno. 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:52.680 Books or whatever. 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:55.320 And that is the correct analogy if you want. 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:56.080 It's up to the. 0:20:56.200 --> 0:21:00.840 Parents to restrict and control their child's use of the 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:03.480 social media, as Peter Dutton himself did. 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:06.359 James, Well, you know what I would love to see. 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:09.080 I would love to see a push to ban screens 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:12.120 and phones in schools because it's not just the parents 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.479 do and I think we've seen experiments with that and 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:18.760 it really really works exactly. This is a very low 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:20.679 hanging fruit that you do without having to create a 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:22.879 whole digital idea which sweeps everybody up in it. 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:23.600 Absolutely. 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:29.680 I was amused, amused to see that the Trump de 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:32.760 arrangement syndrome is still alive and strong, and very strong 0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:34.800 corners of the media doubling down. 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:39.000 Just like we've seen the insanity on US television MSNBC, 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:44.440 CNN where they're blaming racism and sexism and institutional misogyny 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:48.439 for Kamala's enormost failure, we're seeing the same sort of 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:53.760 delusion in segments of the so called conservative media. And 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:56.640 it really is quite sad because if you don't understand 0:21:56.760 --> 0:22:00.960 US domestic politics, fine, perhaps don't right about it. 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:05.000 Would be from an article in Australian the willful naivety 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:09.480