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Speaker 1: On scorn leads Ostrodia. This is the Wider Panalkey Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, and welcome to the Rita Paney Show. Coming

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Speaker 2: up tonight.

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Speaker 3: The ORCA still in disarray as the.

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister prepares to meet with President Trump. Ni Kata

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Speaker 2: will be here to cover the day's top headlines. Boxing

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Speaker 2: legend Jeff Beennick loses it when an elaborate prank almost

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Speaker 2: goes wrong. The Great Josh Hammer will have the latest

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Speaker 2: from the US, including Kim Kardashin coming out in support

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Speaker 2: of illegal immigrants and copying a swift fact check from

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Speaker 2: Homeland Security. And later in the hour, I'll speak to

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Speaker 2: an international security professor on why these riots could be

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Speaker 2: considered domestic terrorism and left He's losing It shows that

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Speaker 2: stupid questions deserve brutal answers.

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Speaker 4: So if there were peaceful protests on Saturday for the

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Speaker 4: Jelatine parade, President Trump.

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Speaker 5: Would allow that.

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Speaker 6: Of course, the President supports peaceful protest. What a stupid question,

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Speaker 6: rickw thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Let's bring in Mensis Research Center Senior fellow Nick Cata.

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Speaker 1: Nick.

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Speaker 2: The ABC has followed Channel ten this week in acting

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Speaker 2: its flagship.

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Speaker 3: Current affairs talk show Q and A.

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Speaker 2: The Public Broadcaster today announced that the program will not

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Speaker 2: be returning to screens after eighteen years on air.

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Speaker 3: May mean around forty job.

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Speaker 2: Losses, and this is just days after Tends the project

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Speaker 2: met a similar fate. Nick, that's two lefty talkfests gone

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Speaker 2: in a week. And we've also seen the ABC get

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Speaker 2: rid of the drum back in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Is there any.

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Speaker 2: Danger the Public Broadcaster may actually produce a current affairs

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Speaker 2: program that is not a lefty echo chamber that has

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Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe a conservative host or some conservative producers.

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Speaker 1: Not whatsoever REATA.

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Speaker 7: And of course the fact that they do pack the

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Speaker 7: channel with lefties actually become self reinforcing after a while,

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Speaker 7: because people like me decide I did some years ago,

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Speaker 7: that it really wasn't worth my time going and playing

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Speaker 7: second fiddle to a transgender climate activist.

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Speaker 1: In front of an audience that hates you, just to.

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Speaker 7: Be rewarded with some warm beer and cold pizza in

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Speaker 7: the green room, No thank you, So I won't miss it.

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Speaker 7: I noticed that my friend Greg Sheridan wrote a very

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Speaker 7: nostalgic piece about how he's going to miss the show,

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Speaker 7: But then he was always much more tolerant and dealing

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Speaker 7: with these mad people than I was.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, their idea of diverse views or being unbiased

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Speaker 2: is to have a token conservative on a big panel

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Speaker 2: who becomes the punching bag for the night, who the

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Speaker 2: other guests, the host, the audience can all kick around.

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Speaker 2: And that's their idea of balance. I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: a massive broadcast receives more than a billion dollars of

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Speaker 2: our tax money every single year.

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Speaker 3: You know the ABC.

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Speaker 2: Well, how many conservative center right hosts would they have

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Speaker 2: across the whole network? We're talking TV, radio, their online publications?

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Speaker 3: How many do you know of?

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Speaker 7: I don't think I know of any confirmed out and

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Speaker 7: out out and proud, loud and proud conservatives on the abs.

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Speaker 3: Out of the cause.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't say, let me.

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Speaker 7: Just I will just say there are a number of

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Speaker 7: people who whose journalism I respect, But none of them

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Speaker 7: you'd really think were liberal voters.

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Speaker 2: Now to Victoria police rejecting State Corogner John Kayne's recommendation

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Speaker 2: to lead domestic violence victims when their ex partners are

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Speaker 2: released from jail, saying the force does not have the

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Speaker 2: resources to do so. Victoria police also say that many

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Speaker 2: victims would have changed their numbers or be screening their

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Speaker 2: calls now. This proposal from the coroner came after forty

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Speaker 2: nine year old Norlee Dalzell's abusive ex partner, James Fairhall,

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Speaker 2: stabbed her to death in front of their three children

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Speaker 3: He was released from jail.

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Speaker 2: Miss Dalzell's family say that if an alert system had

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Speaker 3: Nick, this is all happening while Victoria Police.

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Speaker 2: All has all sorts of staffing issues. They are about

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Speaker 2: at the end of the year. Morale is said to

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Speaker 2: be low. But really, this is a proposal that should

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Speaker 2: be in place. It's just a practical measure that will

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Speaker 2: allow women to take extra precautions for their own safety.

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Speaker 7: How underdresourced do you have to be not to be

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Speaker 7: able to make a five minute phone call to a

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Speaker 7: victim of domestic violence? So I don't get it reached.

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Speaker 7: And because over the years the Victorian government has boasted

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Speaker 7: domestic violence, the police have gone as I understand it

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Speaker 7: a dedicated unit to do just that.

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Speaker 1: So why aren't they actually.

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Speaker 7: Fighting domestic violence instead of going around I guess with

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Speaker 7: propaganda classes for police and everybody else telling them that

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Speaker 7: all men are bad people. You know, it's just the

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Speaker 7: action does not meet the rhetoric as usual with this government.

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Speaker 2: It is just so disappointing because this seems to be

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Speaker 2: a really practical measure that could help save women, at

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Speaker 2: least giving them the awareness to be extra careful, perhaps

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Speaker 2: just take extra precautions they otherwise would not take. Now,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about Gosford Hospital on the New South Wales

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Speaker 2: central coast. They have been criticized for their confusing and

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Speaker 2: dangerous emergency department signs. The hospital has put up signs

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Speaker 2: using Aboriginal words to show where its emergency department and

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Speaker 2: resuscitation base are located. Alongside their English translations. They're using

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Speaker 2: terms like sick, k even bring back, and then they've

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Speaker 2: got the English signs underneath that. Let's have a look

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Speaker 2: at ben Fordham's report on this.

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Speaker 8: An ambulance paramedic is raising concerns about confusing Indigenous signs

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Speaker 8: in hospitals. For example, one sign says bagel barrong. What

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Speaker 8: does bageal barrong mean? It means sick cave. What does

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Speaker 8: sick cave mean? It means emergency department. Imagine if you're

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Speaker 8: a busy ambo looking for the ED, there's another sign

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Speaker 8: that says mana gulloring bulga, which means bring back, and

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Speaker 8: bring back means resuscitation bays. Why can't we just call

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Speaker 8: them resuscitation bays and the emergency department?

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Speaker 3: Nick?

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Speaker 2: This stuff is just getting more absurd bring back. If

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Speaker 2: you're an ambulance officer or a parent in a panic, really,

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Speaker 2: do you need to have three different signs, two of

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Speaker 2: them which are nonsensical to you?

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Speaker 7: I've done the mass on this ron rito. And there

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Speaker 7: are seventeen thousand Ooriginal people on the New South Wales

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Speaker 7: central coast. The proportion nationally that speak an indigenous language

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Speaker 7: is less than ten percent. So let's say that's seventeen

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Speaker 7: hundred people who speak an indigenous language, and of course

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Speaker 7: there's one hundred and fifty indigenous languages. But just just

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Speaker 7: pretend for a moment that let's just pretend for a

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Speaker 7: moment that they all have to speak this particular indigenous language.

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Speaker 7: That'ser point, not three percent of the Gosford population who

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Speaker 7: might potentially benefit from this, whose rights might be protected,

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Speaker 7: as opposed to half a million others who risk their

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Speaker 7: rights they don't no longer have the right that We

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Speaker 7: certainly are not blundering into an operating theater in the

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Speaker 7: middle of an operation thinking it's to gentlemen's toilet.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is just bar me. It's bar me,

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Speaker 1: really reta and the only.

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Speaker 3: Way it is.

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Speaker 2: You said, there's more than one hundred and fifty languages.

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Speaker 2: There are also many more dialects. So the actual number

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Speaker 2: of benefit from those signs is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the whole thing is just beyond But this

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Speaker 2: is what happens when the bureaucracy is captured by the

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Speaker 2: activist class. They just keep pushing this agenda and pushing

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Speaker 2: it until people call it out. Meanwhile, we've got another

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Speaker 2: embryo mix up by Minash IVF just within two months.

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Speaker 2: We've had multiple cases and that's prompted calls for more

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Speaker 2: regulation and IVF campaigners have also suggested that children born

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Speaker 2: through assisted reproduction should be subjected to DNA testing. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's going to make a lot of parents who've used

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Speaker 2: IVF very nervous nick to suggest that their kids should

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Speaker 2: be DNA tested to make sure there hasn't been some

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Speaker 2: sort of a bungle. I don't know if you'd even

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Speaker 1: No, it's horrible, thoughts.

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Speaker 7: Isn't it that there would be routine DNA testing to

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Speaker 7: prove that point. Surely these companies that conduct it should

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Speaker 7: can put in place what I assume would be pretty

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Speaker 7: simple but rigorous processes to make sure this sort of

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Speaker 7: nonsense doesn't happen. I'm not a big fan of regulation,

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Speaker 7: as you know RETA. Normally I argue for removing regulation,

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Speaker 7: not putting it in place. But in this case, I

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Speaker 7: process because of the sensitivities involved.

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Speaker 3: Now let's get the latest on orcas.

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Speaker 2: The Pentagon has ordered a review into the program to

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Speaker 2: see how it advances the Trump Administration's America First agenda.

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Speaker 2: The review will reportedly be led by longtime ORCUS skeptic

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Speaker 2: L Breach Colby and comes days after US Defense Secretary

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Speaker 2: Pete Hegseeth called on Australia to lift its defense spending

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Speaker 2: to three point five percent of GDP something their Prime

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Speaker 2: minister has straight out refused to entertain. Now, former Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister and ORCUS hater Malcolm Turnbull had this to say

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Speaker 2: on X. He wrote, the UK is conducting a review

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Speaker 2: of aucers, the usdod is conducting a review of workers,

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Speaker 2: but Australia, which has the most at stake, has no review.

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Speaker 2: Our parliament to date has been the least curious and

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Speaker 2: least informed. Time to wake up. He also said there

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Speaker 2: is literally a denial of reality in Canberra. I have

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Speaker 2: sat with senior officials in our Defense establishment and said

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Speaker 2: to them, what is your plan if we don't get

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Speaker 2: any Virginia class submarines from the US. They have looked

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Speaker 2: back at me and said we will get the submarines.

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Speaker 2: This is like saying I'm going to have a party

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Speaker 2: in the garden on Sunday and you say to me,

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Speaker 2: what will you do if it rains? And I look

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Speaker 2: back at you and say it won't rain. We do

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Speaker 2: love a Malcolm Turnbull analogy on this program, NICKA, Now

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Speaker 2: have it out, ben easy.

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Speaker 3: He's got a lot on.

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Speaker 2: His plate in anticipation for this meeting with the US president.

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Speaker 2: If he does get that meeting, there's ucas there's the

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Speaker 2: trade deal, there's all sorts of talk around China.

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Speaker 3: But the question has to be asked, Nick, why would.

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Speaker 2: The US agree to be our policeman, to be our

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Speaker 2: increasing spending on our own defense like so many other

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Speaker 7: Well, for once, I think I'll agree with Malcolm Turnbul

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Speaker 7: on this, that defense has been just walking along blindly

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Speaker 7: pretending everything's going to turn out right instead of actually

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Speaker 7: looking at this closely. And so's el but easy for

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Speaker 7: that matter, you know how quick he was to sort

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Speaker 7: of aily dismiss the suggestions we should go to three

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Speaker 7: percent defense spending. And guess what, Malcolm Turnbull, for once

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Speaker 7: is also on the same side as the Trump administration.

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Speaker 1: Who would have thought it? But basically, you know, basically

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Speaker 1: we must.

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Speaker 7: This shows that a three percent minimum three percent defense spending,

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Speaker 7: in my view, is an imperative, not a nice to have.

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Speaker 7: And with that money we can actually pay the US

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Speaker 7: for their side, which presumably will be built in the US,

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Speaker 7: which is where they want things to happen, so it

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Speaker 7: will be a win win for the United States. And

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Speaker 7: of course, whatever their horizons with their defense policy, it

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Speaker 7: will help the United States enormously to know that this

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Speaker 7: region can be protected from bad actors.

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Speaker 2: And Donald Trump and Jigping have reached a new trade deal.

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Speaker 5: Not feel about starting a black woman from going to work?

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Speaker 2: Of course, these are the anti Trump, anti ice protesters

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Speaker 6: Nick.

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Speaker 7: Actually, whether left He's Losing It is the right title

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Speaker 7: for your segment, actually, because you're generously assuming that actually

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Speaker 7: Everything based say they stand for, whether it's standing shoulder

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Speaker 1: It's pathetic.

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Speaker 7: It's actually atrocious and uncivilized behavior in my view, and

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Speaker 2: We're going to have a lot more on the riots

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Speaker 2: across the US with Josh Hammer after the break, Nikita,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time tonight.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Fenick has been targeted with an elaborate prank, a

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Speaker 2: This is the work of Osmond oz Abu Mallik and

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Speaker 9: five years ago, sir, on my hou's full concern toot

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Speaker 2: Jeff Fedick got more and more angry as the auctioneer

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Speaker 1: Okay, month, bring the twice, bring the tweet, very million,

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Speaker 6: I've not taken three men.

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Speaker 1: I've got a high bid on that, sir. I just

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Speaker 6: How's my has for sale? How's my house to sell? Getting?

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Speaker 1: I've made my hand from south. I've been given instructions.

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Speaker 6: Here it goes at what point five? Five millions?

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Speaker 9: What point five?

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Speaker 1: The fun?

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Speaker 9: You'll be doing it deal tonight?

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Speaker 6: That's fine and a half? Hear it goes what at fine.

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Speaker 9: Check point by check point?

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Speaker 9: At six point?

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Speaker 2: Prank now that's entertaining. I'm happy for my tax dollars

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Speaker 3: lefties losing it.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with this why else reporter learning an important

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Speaker 4: So, if there were peaceful protests on Saturday for the

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Speaker 5: Trump would allow that.

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Speaker 6: Of course, the President supports peaceful protest. What a stupid question,

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Speaker 2: Yes, stupid questions deserve brutal answers.

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Speaker 3: She won't make that mistake again.

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Speaker 2: Here is another supposed celebrity, a preachy clown called don'tch.

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Speaker 2: She calls herself a swamp princess, and she seems to

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Speaker 4: There are ruthless attacks that are creating fear and chaos

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Speaker 4: I want you to consider what kind of government it

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Speaker 2: You know, it's the type of government that holds the law,

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Speaker 3: A fruit, a citrusy fruiter has a bit.

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Speaker 2: To learn there now to the ladies of the view,

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Speaker 2: and Whoopee seems to think that California is some sort

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Speaker 11: Whatever happened to states rights? I thought that was what

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Speaker 11: you do, because you tell the state, this is what

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Speaker 11: we're thinking of doing.

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Speaker 1: You know, you don't just send people in.

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Speaker 3: You don't just send troops in. But where do I know, Well,

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Speaker 3: you don't know much, Whoopee. We've worked that out.

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Speaker 2: But if Whoopy is clueless, Sonny Houstin is utterly unhinged,

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Speaker 2: just listen to this. You are an army turned insight

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Speaker 2: to police and citizens can cause chaos, fascism and fascism,

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Speaker 3: Think that's the way war and civil war. I think

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Speaker 2: And let's hear from Sarah Haynes, who are some sobering

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Speaker 2: news for the ladies. The great majority of Americans support

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's policy to deport every illegal immigrant.

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Speaker 10: Sixty six percent of the American public actually thinks it

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Speaker 3: But it's criminal to be undoctioned.

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Speaker 6: Yes, it is not.

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Speaker 3: You know how the disagreement was in the beginning.

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Speaker 10: We were told it was going to be violent criminals,

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Speaker 10: and I think everyone at this table would agree haul

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Speaker 10: out the violent criminals. Fine, But a very important distinction

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Speaker 10: was sixty percent of the American public, two thirds of Independence,

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is a massive.

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Speaker 10: Amount of this country actually agrees with not how he's

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Speaker 2: Actually, I'd say the majority would be pretty happy with

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump was pretty clear that his policy was to

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Speaker 2: Joining me now is Newsweek's senior editor at large and

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Speaker 2: Article three projects CEDI Council, Josh Hammer. Josh, the ladies

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Speaker 5: Reader, and I live that out every day actually as

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Speaker 5: long time trends been going on for at least a

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Speaker 5: decade by now. Donald Trump actually in twenty twenty, in

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is totally taken a Democratic Party by storm.

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Speaker 2: Now we all know late night TV comics in America

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Speaker 11: We've been watching cable news and believe this city is

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Speaker 6: Right now, it most certainly is not.

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Speaker 11: I'm very angry. I have to say, I cannot believe

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Speaker 11: I did not know it was going to be this bad.

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Speaker 11: People who have lived here their whole lives, people who've

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Speaker 11: this disgusting and unnecessary abuse of power instigated by our

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Speaker 2: There's a riot outside, Josh, I can't believe his audience

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Speaker 2: is circling the dray and I don't even know where

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Speaker 2: to start with all that. First, the denial that the

447
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Speaker 2: riots are even happening, then the demented hysteria about Trump

448
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Speaker 2: and abductions and civil wars. Jimmy Kimmel just profoundly ignorant or.

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Speaker 3: Is he lying grit?

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Speaker 5: It was five years ago that the United States endured

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Speaker 5: one of its tumultuous summers in the history of our country.

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Speaker 5: We had the Summer of Love, the summer of the

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Speaker 5: sixteen nineteen riots as they're called the Black Lives Matter

454
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Speaker 5: and Tieper riots there, and it was actually just over

455
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Speaker 5: a week ago that we had the five year anniversary

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Speaker 5: of the somewhat infamous OpEd from Center Tom Connon of

457
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Speaker 5: Arkansas calling to send in the troops. As it turns out,

458
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Speaker 5: of Tom Cotton's op ed was poweringly prescient actually, because

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Speaker 5: we're facing the exact same situation now in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 5: and the same way that the media, the same way

461
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Speaker 5: that they have learned nothing when it comes to trying

462
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Speaker 5: to put Hump Dumpy back together again with this intersectional

463
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Speaker 5: rainbow or legal immigrants, whatever it is coalition on the left. There,

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Speaker 5: so too have they seemingly learned nothing whatsoever when it

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Speaker 5: comes to the overwhelming abiding, moral imperative of law and order,

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Speaker 5: when it comes to anarchy and domestic insurrectionary activity. Here,

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Speaker 5: I think back to the infamous CNN chirn during these

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Speaker 5: Saint George Floyd riots in twenty twenty there where there

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Speaker 5: was that there was a reporter standing there with the

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Speaker 5: keV Lar helmet and it said fiery but mostly peaceful protests.

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Speaker 5: That's basically the same energy, the same spirit you might

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Speaker 5: say that Jimmy Kimmel is channeling. And this not particularly

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Speaker 5: funny quasi monologue that we just heard there there. You know,

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Speaker 5: these these are not mostly peaceful protests, as the video

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Speaker 5: that the viewers are watching right now makes entirely clear.

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Speaker 5: These are extraordinarily violent protests.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 5: Police have been clamoring actually for the Federal National Guard

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Speaker 5: to get involved. Aaren Bass, the chief the police there.

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Speaker 5: If you actually listen to what they're saying, they are saying,

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Speaker 5: we are overwhelmed. We actually need federal law enforcement to

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Speaker 5: come back up the LAPD. Now this is not peaceful stuff.

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Speaker 5: And all this is done Riada. All this is done

484
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Speaker 5: with an ultimate intent to try to disintegrate the United

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Speaker 5: States from within. That is the left wing sentiment here

486
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Speaker 5: there and everywhere is not to build, but is to

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Speaker 5: tear down. They are trying to tear down the United States.

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Speaker 5: They are trying to tear down every other major European country,

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Speaker 5: Australia and New zealand every other first world country around

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Speaker 5: the world. I'm here in Israel now. The same thing

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Speaker 5: here with the Israeli left. Everywhere you are throughout the world,

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Speaker 5: the Left has the exact same mentality, which is to

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Speaker 5: destroy and to tear down the nation civil society. It's

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Speaker 5: playing out though, and particularly start terms are now back

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Speaker 5: home from me in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: Now what we've all been waiting for, Josh, is the

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Speaker 2: import of Kim Kardashian. The reality TV star described immigration

498
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Speaker 2: and Customs enforcement deportation rates as inhumane, and that prompt

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Speaker 2: today top Department of Homeland Security official to fire back.

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Speaker 2: Assistant DHS Secretary Tricia McLachlin wrote on X Kim Kardashian,

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Speaker 2: which one of these convicted child molesters, murderers, drug traffickers,

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Speaker 2: and rapists would you like to stay in the country?

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Speaker 2: And she also included with that post muck shots and

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Speaker 2: the profiles of a criminality of these four illegal immigrants

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Speaker 2: that were recently nabbed in ICE enforcement operations. Josh, it's

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Speaker 2: good to see people within the administration, people within the

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Speaker 2: bureaucracy hitting back at these celebrities.

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Speaker 3: Who mouth off, and they often do that with little consequence.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm smiling over here, Bria, because I can't help

510
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Speaker 5: with thing. Back to the very first GOP presidential primary

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Speaker 5: debate of the twenty sixteen presidential cycle. This takes us

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Speaker 5: all the way back to August of twenty fifteen, just

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Speaker 5: about a decade ago, and Donald Trump has this kind

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Speaker 5: of infamous attack on Rosi o'donald. Of all people, right,

515
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Speaker 5: it was a very memorable exchange. But Donald Trump and

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Speaker 5: all the people that he surrounds himself with, they have

517
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Speaker 5: never been afraid to take on high profile celebrities. There,

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Speaker 5: Kim Kardashian these days, I suppose blows Rosie o'donnald out

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Speaker 5: of the water as far as pop culture rabatas is concerned. There,

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Speaker 5: So no there, They're not afraid whatsoever to take on

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Speaker 5: big interests, whether those big interests are in big pharma,

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Speaker 5: whether those interests are in big Tech or big Hollywood,

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Speaker 5: or big media, big academia, big university, big Life of

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Speaker 5: the Kardashians, whatever the reality show is called there that

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Speaker 5: I don't particularly claim to care to watch, to be

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Speaker 5: honest with you, there, but they're not afraid. They're not

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Speaker 5: afraid to get in the mud there for the very

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Speaker 5: simple reason that, on the one hand, these celebrities are

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Speaker 5: a very convenient political foil because they quite literally live

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Speaker 5: out of touch and their gated communities with their private guards.

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Speaker 5: Kim Kardashian is not experiencing what the blue collar oftentimes

532
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Speaker 5: by the way, Hispanic oftentimes Hispanic working class people in

533
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Speaker 5: places like downtown Los Angeles, Kim Kardashian and Malibu or

534
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Speaker 5: whoever the heck she's living, she is not experiencing those

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Speaker 5: people in downtown Los Angeles are experiencing there. And then

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Speaker 5: on the other hand, there you know, people at Tricia

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Speaker 5: McLaughlin and the USDHS. They know that the American people

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Speaker 5: side with them. So it's good politics, it's good policy,

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Speaker 5: and they're doing very well actually on.

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Speaker 10: This world now.

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Speaker 2: Josh on those protests in blue cities, Republican Senator Josh

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Speaker 2: Hawley's launched an investigation into a left wing group in

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Speaker 2: California that he says maybe financially.

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Speaker 3: Supporting violent protests in LA.

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Speaker 2: What more can you tell me about this, because there

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Speaker 2: is a lot of conjecture that there is organization and

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Speaker 2: funding behind these protests.

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Speaker 5: So we don't know what's on yet, is the very

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Speaker 5: short and honest answer. I'm hoping to learn more. I

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Speaker 5: was very happy to see that Central Holly is putting

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Speaker 5: out this notice of investigation there, and this is the

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Speaker 5: sort of thing that peeral government should be investigating. Their

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Speaker 5: Congress has this beena power, DHSDOJ have a lot of

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Speaker 5: powers at their disposal within the bureaucracy of the executive

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Speaker 5: branch as well. Now we do know that whether it

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Speaker 5: comes to the twenty twenty Black Lives Matter ANTIFA riots,

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Speaker 5: whether it comes to the post October seventh Prohamas riots

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Speaker 5: on American University canvases, we definitely do know that there

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Speaker 5: have been outside funders. We just don't know to this

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Speaker 5: day exactly the constellation eventities there. We highly suspected individuals

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Speaker 5: like George Sodos are involved. There are very shady lefting organizations.

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Speaker 5: One is known as Arabella Advisors. They are known to

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Speaker 5: kind of try to mobilize activist lefting organization, but left

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Speaker 5: has a very complicated network rata unfortunately. Actually the recent

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Speaker 5: murderer of the two is really diplomat in Washingt DC,

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Speaker 5: was actually very involved in some of these far left

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Speaker 5: grassroots circles as well. It's an extraordinarily shady picture actually,

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Speaker 5: and I think actually this is not talk about very frequently,

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Speaker 5: but one of the most important imperatives for people on

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Speaker 5: the right in America right now, especially when it comes

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Speaker 5: to investigative journalists, really have the wherewithal the chops to

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Speaker 5: get to actually do this, I think, to try to

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Speaker 5: kind of systematically break down some of these very sketchy

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Speaker 5: left wing organizations they're try to actually find out where

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Speaker 5: the bank accounts are coming from, try to find out

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Speaker 5: who is dropping off in mysterious three am load overnight fashion,

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Speaker 5: who was actually dropping off the body armor and the

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Speaker 5: vests and the kevlar helmets, you know, at the bus

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Speaker 5: station Los Angeles, and basically tell these people, Okay, here's

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Speaker 5: what you need to go ahead and then stand up

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Speaker 5: to the man, stand up to the LAPD. Again, we

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Speaker 5: don't actually know to this day exactly who is funding this,

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Speaker 5: but we see it in the open, and it's been

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Speaker 5: happening for a long time now. I just think you

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Speaker 5: remembered this exact same sort of thing happening in those

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Speaker 5: first few months of the twenty twenty George Floyd Riot's there,

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Speaker 5: so it's going on for a long time there. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 5: haven't gone a whole lot and answering this question. But

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Speaker 5: I'm happy that Josh Holly's on the case.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's finally time to have a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a real investigation into what's happened there, because

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Speaker 2: there's now an appetite to actually find out the truth.

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Speaker 2: The FBI is interested, certainly the Justice Department will be interested,

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Speaker 2: and Senator Hawley is going.

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Speaker 3: To be pushing this hard now.

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Speaker 2: Today on Light and News, the President and the First

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Speaker 2: Lady were at the Kennedy Center to see La miss

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Speaker 2: and he was not one bit phased. Donald Trump with

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Speaker 2: the prospect of actors boycotting the event.

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Speaker 6: It's been reported that some actors maybe boycotting.

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Speaker 8: I bring jail us.

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Speaker 1: All I do is run the country.

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Speaker 9: Well, the economic numberis you saw them today.

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Speaker 6: They're setting records which took.

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Speaker 9: Eighty eight million dollars in tariffs in two months, far

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Speaker 9: beyond what anybody expected.

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Speaker 6: There's no inflation, people are happy, people are wealthy. The

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Speaker 6: country is getting back to strength again.

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Speaker 5: That's what I care about, and we're going to have

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Speaker 5: a safe.

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Speaker 3: Country, Josh.

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Speaker 2: This was the President's first visit to the Kennysy Center

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Speaker 2: since he became its chairman back in February.

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Speaker 3: He said that he's going to restore it to its former.

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Speaker 2: Glory, and the reports are there was a little bit

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Speaker 2: of booing, but mainly cheers and even chance of the

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Speaker 2: USA throughout the arena.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, this is why he's president of the United States, right,

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Speaker 5: is that he is able to stay with a straight

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Speaker 5: face and in quite humorous fashion, name my dad. He's

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Speaker 5: able to say, I put him care less when it

623
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Speaker 5: comes to the possibility of a boycott from these presumably

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Speaker 5: overpaid actors to go up there and emote and gesticulate

625
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Speaker 5: to make all these things about how Donald Trump is

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Speaker 5: an evil fashot or bashis or whatever there I mean.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think back as well when Donald Trump's

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Speaker 5: on his most recent iteration of the travel band putting

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Speaker 5: limited or full restrictions on entry into the United States

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Speaker 5: from twelve countries throughout the world. There and he has

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Speaker 5: this kind of video that he records sitting at the

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Speaker 5: resolute desk in the Oval Office in the White House,

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Speaker 5: and he looks and he looks at the cavern says,

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Speaker 5: we don't want them.

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Speaker 6: I mean, what a common sense sentiment.

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Speaker 5: We don't want them. We don't want them. I put

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Speaker 5: n't care less. This again, this is why Donald Trump

638
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Speaker 5: is president. He has this innate, kind of inherent political

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Speaker 5: appeal to Joe workingman. He is really kind of the

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Speaker 5: class trader billionaire, the guy who has made rules of

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Speaker 5: money and has made a global brand icon for himself.

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Speaker 5: But the way that he speaks, the way that he

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Speaker 5: acts just directly resonates Haart to heart with the working

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Speaker 5: men and women of America. There this clip has getting

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Speaker 5: another example of that.

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Speaker 2: It it's amazing that a billionaire is so relatable, and

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Speaker 2: a billionaire who's led the life is led now. The

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Speaker 2: New York Post reports President Trump has been receptive to

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Speaker 2: Elon Musk's apology for that X meltdown. Musk admitted he

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Speaker 2: had gone too far in his personal attacks. No kidding, mate,

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Speaker 2: President Trump told the Post, I thought it was very

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Speaker 2: nice that he did that, But Josh, the President wasn't

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Speaker 2: willing to say that. He let bygones be bygones with

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Speaker 2: the Tesla space X CEO.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think that's a surprise for Musk to

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Speaker 3: do that so publicly. It's going to take a lot

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Speaker 3: for that trust to be restored.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean to put it mildly, I mean, Elon

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Speaker 5: overreacted would probably most politely I can put it there.

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Speaker 5: I mean he took a personal he took a policy disagreement.

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Speaker 5: He took a very reasonable disagreement over the so called

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Speaker 5: Big beautiful and whether or not this is the best

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Speaker 5: way to be appropriating funds there, whether or not to

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Speaker 5: be a committee by committee, one bit built, okay, whatever.

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Speaker 5: That's a legitimate debate that people on the right from

666
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Speaker 5: Depper and haled it themselves. But he took it so personally.

667
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 5: And the way that he reacted there, I mean, essentially

668
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Speaker 5: calling Donald Trump a pedophile by talking about the the

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Speaker 5: Steam files there, I mean, not an easy thing to

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Speaker 5: walk back into right there. Having said that, having said that,

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Speaker 5: I appreciate the instincts, I appreciate the instinct to try

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Speaker 5: to walk back to try to make amends. It's frankly

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Speaker 5: very gracious of Donald Trump, but he is willing to

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Speaker 5: kind of just let bygones be bygones. That there's such

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Speaker 5: a short period of time. It's best for the right,

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Speaker 5: is best for the American right, And as someone who

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Speaker 5: wants the American right to succeed, this wor ultimately I

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Speaker 5: come down, it is best for the American right to

679
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Speaker 5: try to get these two titans to try to let bygones,

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Speaker 5: be bygones there, but easier set than done, because again

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Speaker 5: Elon must dramatically, dramatically overreacted here. But the guy's the

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Speaker 5: wealthiest man in the world. And think of it this way, Rita.

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Speaker 5: If you are Donald Trump, if you are MAGA, you

684
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Speaker 5: are the America the First Movement, if you are the

685
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Speaker 5: Republican Party, et cetera, and so forth. There, you don't

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Speaker 5: want to alienate Elon muss You ultimately do want Elon

687
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Speaker 5: Musk on your side for pure kind of cynical funding reasons,

688
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Speaker 5: if nothing else there. So that's ultimately where I come down.

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Speaker 5: And it simply Donald Trump seems to agree.

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Speaker 6: With that there.

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Speaker 5: But boy, he's being very gracious because Elon must had

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Speaker 5: some very nasty things to put him out.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: I think the right need those two to kiss and

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Speaker 2: make up. But then the fact that Elon has the

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Speaker 2: capacity to have a meltdown like this publicly on X

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Speaker 2: If this was a meltdown behind closed doors, then it's

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Speaker 2: another thing. But for him to take it and just

699
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Speaker 2: completely lose it publicly, I think it's going to take

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Speaker 2: a lot for that trust to be restored. But you

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Speaker 2: don't want him to be writing those checks for billions

702
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Speaker 2: to the Democrats because he has been a lifelong Democrat

703
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Speaker 2: up until recently.

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Speaker 1: Josh, she was.

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Speaker 2: Red pilled, and I think that's authentic. I don't think

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Speaker 2: that was opportunistic. I think he his politics and his

707
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Speaker 2: worldview has changed dramatically, and other than that that little meltdown,

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Speaker 2: he has been pretty sound for the Mega movement. Josh Hava,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time tonight. Thank you

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Speaker 2: still to come. Why the LA riots could be considered

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Speaker 2: domestic terrorism. International security professor Max Abrams explains, welcome back

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Speaker 2: the anti Trump, anti ice protests. Riots really have spread

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Speaker 2: to other blue cities. Let's have a look at what's

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Speaker 2: happening in San Francisco.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 2: The violent protests are spreading to Democrat strongholds like San Francisco,

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Speaker 2: New York, Chicago, and even.

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Speaker 3: South to Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Over the.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Atlanta is a blue city. Georgia may be read,

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Speaker 2: but Atlanta is not a song of the violence we're

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Speaker 2: seeing in LA. With the use of fireworks to target

723
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Speaker 2: police and even police horses is extremely.

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Speaker 3: Dangerous, life threatening.

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Speaker 2: Let's bring in international security expert Max Abrams. Max, some

726
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Speaker 2: of the violence we're saying seems opportunistic. Some of it

727
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Speaker 2: those seems very much organized. You are an international security

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Speaker 2: professor and expert on terrorism. Do you consider some of

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Speaker 2: this violence as acts of domestic terrorism?

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Speaker 6: I think it is. You know, there's obviously a reluctance

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Speaker 6: by the left to describe this kind of violence as terrorism,

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Speaker 6: because terrorism is only done for ideologies that the left

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Speaker 6: doesn't like. But the definition of terrorism certainly could include

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Speaker 6: left wing political violence. The standard definition that we use

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Speaker 6: is a non state actor, so we're not talking about

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Speaker 6: a government who uses violence against a civilian target for

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Speaker 6: political aim, and it's always useful to keep that definition

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Speaker 6: in mind when trying to determine whether we're looking at terrorism.

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Speaker 6: I think that some of this violence certainly looks a

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Speaker 6: lot like terrorism. I think that increasingly the violence is

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Speaker 6: going to be indiscriminate. It's not going to be just

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Speaker 6: directed against ice or federal buildings or police forces and

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Speaker 6: police cars. I think that these perpetrators pose a genuine

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Speaker 6: danger to the public. Broadly. They're going to be increasingly

745
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Speaker 6: setting cars on fire and probably looting stores indiscriminately anything

746
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Speaker 6: they can get into, attacking shops, and the reason is

747
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Speaker 6: is that these guys are simply united by anti American sentiment.

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Speaker 6: So there might be some nuances in terms of their differences.

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Speaker 6: How much are they motivated against a how much specifically

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Speaker 6: against immigration policy.

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Speaker 1: But this is just an.

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Speaker 6: Opportunity for left wing extremists to try to exert their

753
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Speaker 6: control over the country into intimidate anyone there. So, yes,

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Speaker 6: this is domestic extremism and unfortunately probably increasingly terrorism.

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Speaker 2: And we saw similar scenes that destruction in discriminate destruction

756
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Speaker 2: of public property, private property, the looting, the arson during

757
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Speaker 2: the BLM riots throughout America, and I would suspect there'd

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Speaker 2: be a lot of the usual suspects involved in this

759
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Speaker 2: as well. Tulsa Gabbatt says, this is organized largely, This

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Speaker 2: isn't just some organic gathering of people who are upset.

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Speaker 3: Do you see it that way? Do you see some

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Speaker 3: organization behind at least some of the violence. We're saying.

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Speaker 6: It's a combination. I mean, if you look at sort

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Speaker 6: of the gear that these guys have, some of them

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Speaker 6: are clearly professionals. You know, they have fancy face masks,

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Speaker 6: you know, to deal with the whatever the authorities are

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Speaker 6: throwing at them. They know how to deal with a

768
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Speaker 6: gas you know Cannister thrown at them. Some of them

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Speaker 6: we know specifically who they are, and they are part

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Speaker 6: of an organization, their career criminals, if you will. But

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Speaker 6: a lot of it actually is organic. So whenever there

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Speaker 6: is like a some kind of a left wing extremist

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Speaker 6: cause just blowing up whatever the extremist cause du jour

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Speaker 6: is on the left, you're gonna get a lot of

775
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Speaker 6: sympathizers who who join in. That was true of Black

776
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Speaker 6: Lives Matter, it's true of the global anti Fato movement.

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Speaker 6: That's how these guys rule. So yeah, probably in the beginning,

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Speaker 6: there's a very important rule in terms of like the organization,

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Speaker 6: in the leadership. But then you just have a whole

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Speaker 6: bunch of angry people. You have weak control over the streets,

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Speaker 6: and they're seizing the opportunity to stick it to the

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Speaker 6: United States.

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Speaker 2: Now, I want to ask about your own personal experience

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Speaker 2: with some of the anti Semitism, anti Israel sentiment we

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Speaker 2: have seen on university campuses. You've personally impacted by that

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Speaker 2: hate and hostility. Tell me what happened at your university

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Speaker 2: when activists took over your class.

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Speaker 6: Sure, so let's go back the Hamas terrorist massacre. Happened

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Speaker 6: on October seventh, three and just three days after that,

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Speaker 6: before Israel had a chance to respond, before Israel invaded Gaza,

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Speaker 6: a guy came to my office area in the hallway

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Speaker 6: and put into my hand a flyer and said, you know,

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Speaker 6: do you want to go to this event? And it

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Speaker 6: was a pro resistance vigil or you know event down

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Speaker 6: the street in Cambridge, and so I thought that was

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Speaker 6: a little bit off putting. He shouldn't have been there,

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Speaker 6: you know, near my office leading me propaganda three days

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Speaker 6: after the attack, but I didn't think too much about it.

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Speaker 6: Then I went to my classroom to teach that evening

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Speaker 6: and the same guy was there, and he wasn't a

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Speaker 6: student of mine, he was a student of the university

802
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Speaker 6: I teach. So he wasn't responding actually to anything that

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Speaker 6: I had said in class, in particular, that day's class

804
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Speaker 6: was actually not sort of relevant to him. It was

805
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Speaker 6: I was basically just targeted because I'm a Jewish professor.

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Speaker 6: The topic actually was going to be on right wing extremism,

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Speaker 6: but I wasn't able to teach until he like left

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Speaker 6: and stopped making a commotion, and then finally he just

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Speaker 6: got up and started sort of prancing around the classroom

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Speaker 6: saying that, you know, I was complicit and the university

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Speaker 6: was complicit, and he encouraged my students to walk out

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Speaker 6: of the classroom and to attend this pro Hamas event

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Speaker 6: in Cambridge. I didn't immediately file a complaint about that,

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Speaker 6: but then he kind of stalked me afterwards, like hanging

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Speaker 6: out by my office. I don't know what I could

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Speaker 6: say on television, but he basically confronted me and told

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Speaker 6: me to f off or whatever to my face. So

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Speaker 6: I was thinking, Wow, this is you know, this is

819
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Speaker 6: really quite personal. It should be pointed out that I wasn't.

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Speaker 1: It was a.

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Speaker 2: Campaign of intimidation because you're a Jewish member of faculty

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Speaker 2: and you wouldn't come to me.

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Speaker 6: I did, that's right, And I did end up filing

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Speaker 6: a formal complaint, and I wasn't the only one. Another

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Speaker 6: faculty member had a related experience from the same student,

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Speaker 6: and I didn't know what the status of my complaint was.

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Speaker 6: They wouldn't update me. But then my phone started blowing

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Speaker 6: up during the Northeastern University graduation ceremony because a student

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Speaker 6: had taken it over and had you know, like fake

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Speaker 6: blood on his hands on the stage. Thanks for putting

831
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Speaker 6: the figure up. Yeah, that's the guy. And so when

832
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Speaker 6: I saw that, wow, and this made it into the news,

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Speaker 6: I immediately understood that my university, Northeastern University, had clearly

834
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Speaker 6: not doubt with this student. He had gone graduation, he

835
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Speaker 6: had gotten his and so I was I was a

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Speaker 6: little bit surprised, because that really is pretty egregious to

837
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Speaker 6: stalk me to take over the classroom. Yeah, and again

838
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Speaker 6: I wasn't the only professor at Northeastern University to do that.

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Speaker 6: We both were both tenured professors. We filed complaints. We

840
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Speaker 6: did exactly what we were supposed to do. You know,

841
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Speaker 6: I didn't get into a physical confrontation with the guy.

842
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Speaker 6: I tried to use the Northeastern University system, and they

843
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Speaker 6: rewarded him with the diploma and ended up, you know,

844
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Speaker 6: embarrassing themselves in the national media. I think there are

845
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Speaker 6: a lot of lessons here. The truth is is that

846
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Speaker 6: the universities are not reforming themselves when they have a

847
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Speaker 6: reason to, even when there is a credible complaint, even

848
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Speaker 6: when there's a real danger to faculty in students, they

849
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Speaker 6: refuse to act. And again, I do think it's important

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Speaker 6: to know that Israel had not even responded yet. So

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Speaker 6: this wasn't like against Night, you know, the genocide and Gaza.

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Speaker 6: None of that had happened. This just was an outbreak

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Speaker 6: of support for Hamas in the immediate aftermath of Operation

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Speaker 6: Alaxa flood.

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Speaker 2: And that's the point, Max, Northeastern University, all these universities

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Speaker 2: would respond very differently if the target wasn't a Jewish

857
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Speaker 2: professor but a black professor, or Hispanic or Muslim professor.

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Speaker 2: Max Abrams, thank you for your time tonight, and that's

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Speaker 2: all the time we have. I'll see you at nine

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Speaker 2: pm tomorrow night for Lift. He's losing it up. Next

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Speaker 2: it's Newsnight.