1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Five, A nice with Matthew Pantellas. Now a few weeks 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: ago on this program, and it would have been after eleven. 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: It was in the last half hour, certainly somebody called 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: in I record. It was Barry by name, and Barry 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: told me the story, really sad story, terrible story of 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: his daughter who was looking after a couple of foster 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: kids and had them for some time, for years, she 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: basically was raising them, and all of a sudden one day, 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: knock on the door, a couple of police officers and 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: someone from the Department of Child whatever it is, Services Protection, 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: whatever it's called, doesn't matter really anyway, they were there 12 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: and said, the boys are coming with us because we've 13 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: got a complaint that you're turning the kids against their 14 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: father and no investigation. No, what did you say? What words? Possibly? 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: Could this be taken out of context? Could you know 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: what happened? None of that kid's just gone and she's 17 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: been fighting to get them back, and Barry obviously doing 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: as much as he could for his daughter. But he 19 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: mentioned the Riley Foundation. Never heard of the Riley Foundation. 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: I'd never heard of them, and gee, they do a 21 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: lot of good work. The foundation was started by co 22 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: creator CEO Nadia Virginetti, who is on the line right now. Nadia, 23 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: good evening, Thanks for your time. 24 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: Hallie Matthew, thank you for having me. 25 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: Now, I see and we'll talk about this. You've recently 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: had a state government grant awarded to the foundation, but 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: we'll get to that. But tell me a little bit 28 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: about the Riley Foundation. How did it start? What's it about? 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: Sure, it started because we identified a gap in the 30 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: system where parents who had had their children removed or 31 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: were at risk of having their children removed didn't actually 32 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: know what they needed to do to change to address 33 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: the concerns of the Department for Child Protection had and 34 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: they really wanted to understand. What we learned really quickly 35 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: is that parents really loved their children and that they 36 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: were dealing with a lot of system issues and a 37 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: lot of trauma that they had been carrying that was 38 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: affecting their parenting in most of the cases, and they 39 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: really just wanted guidance and someone to walk alongside them 40 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: and help to understand what it is that they needed 41 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: to do. And for me, it was really important to 42 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: give parents the information that they need so they could 43 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: have made really informed decisions and that their children can 44 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: come home. So if we know that children aren't doing 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: well in out of home care and there's an o 46 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: representation of Aboriginal children in out of home care, and 47 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: we know that family is best, then it's about helping 48 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: families that they can have a safe, secure, supportive, loving 49 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: home so their kids can return. 50 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: Okay, how does it get to that point though? And 51 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: I suppose every case will be different, but you know, 52 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: when you start looking at what you can do as 53 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: a foundation, are there you know, some basic starting points? 54 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we know that a lot of the reasons 55 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: why children are at risk is domestic violence, mental health, 56 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: substance use. We know that these issues that parents and 57 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: families face, and so where we start from is actually 58 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: just understanding and really walking alongside parents understand what's happening 59 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: for them, and then sort of linking them with services. 60 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: And once they really understand what is happening and why 61 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 2: the department is concerned. And a lot of parents, you know, 62 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: they were parented the same way, and so it's about 63 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: helping them and walking alongside them without judgment, but helping 64 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: them to link with services so they make the changes 65 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: that they need and their kids want to go home. 66 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: So you know that, and when we know that out 67 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: of home is not great for them, it's about helping 68 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: to build that capacity so kids can go home with 69 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: their families. 70 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 71 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very snafe to do. 72 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: So, I know from your website you've got workshops running 73 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: to help parents to you know, I see there's one 74 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: coming up called Showing Up for your Kids, another be 75 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: Present for Life. And these are not long, you know, 76 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: three hour seminar that one, so it's not that long. 77 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: But obviously parents sometimes, you know, all of us probably 78 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: as parents, struggle sometimes with parenting. What do we do now? 79 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: You know? And sometimes just sitting down and trying to 80 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: work that out with someone who's got some useful tips 81 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: would be a very good thing. 82 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. We find that parents are really wanting the knowledge, 83 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: and these workshops give them a safe space. It builds community. 84 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: There are other parents that are navigating the same space. 85 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: It can be really isolating. A lot of families don't 86 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 2: have other people that they can speak to. They would 87 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: say to us, parents would say to us, there's a 88 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 2: lot of shame in what's happening, and so they don't 89 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 2: really want to talk about the situation. To having parents 90 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: coming together and having information together and being able to 91 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: share what's happening for them and learning along the way, 92 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: and you know, understanding how to navigate this system, what 93 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: is required of them, what they expected to do, but 94 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: also helping them to understand how they got here, what 95 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: their parenting template looks like. You know, parenting is hard. 96 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. I'm a mum of three and it 97 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: can be really challenging, but I have an incredible village 98 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: around me, and these families don't always have a village 99 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: around them. So it's about helping to connect with services 100 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: and to identify who in their village can help them 101 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: with this parenting journey. 102 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: There's a direct experience group that you run and this 103 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: was established by the Minister for Child Protection Katrine Hillyard. 104 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: I understand. So you do have a close relationship with 105 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: the government, even though you're advocating on behalf of parents 106 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: that the government has taken children away from. 107 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think the focus is that we're all 108 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: focused on children, what is best for children, and so 109 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: the Minister has been really clear about wanting to be 110 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: supportive and have kids be safe and cared for and 111 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 2: we're possible with parents and their families and so I 112 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: think every stakeholder in this space believes the same thing 113 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: that children are best when it's safe to be raised 114 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: by their parents and their family. So the Direct Experience 115 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: Group give us an opportunity for the first time. We 116 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 2: are only the second state in Australia to have this 117 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: where lived experience informs the Minister and the Chief Executive 118 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 2: of the Department on things that could be better, how 119 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,679 Speaker 2: do we support families that, how do we support children better, 120 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: and how do we walk alongside parents or we haven't 121 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 2: really done that before. So we're really proud of the 122 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: Direct Experience Group. The members of that group are incredible. 123 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: I think that when you have lived experience that are 124 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 2: willing to put aside what they have gone through and 125 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: this system hasn't always treated them really well. You know, 126 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: we haven't necessarily walked alongside parents and built their capacity 127 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 2: and helped them along the way. So when you actually 128 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: ask people to come alongside and inform the Minister when 129 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: they've been traumatized by this system, I think that's incredible 130 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: strength that they bring. And I'm so incredibly proud that 131 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 2: we get through the Minister the Direct Experience Group and 132 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: the Minister is willing to listen and implement the changes 133 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: that they know, the advice that they give on many stages. 134 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Who's Riley? Was there a Riley? Tell me about Riley? 135 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, Riley is just a name. It's a Uni 136 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: sex name for children that navigate this space. So it's 137 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: just it's about children that are wrapped up into this system, 138 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 2: and it's just an innisex. 139 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: Name that we came up right, Okay, so it's not 140 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: actually a person. It's just our real person. It's just 141 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: YEA gives it a cover. All that's okay. If people 142 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: want more information, I suppose you work. Your website is 143 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: a good place to start. 144 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And we're wanting to make that more informative. 145 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: We're wanting to have because parents don't have a really 146 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: long time to be able to address the concerns, so 147 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: it's really important so they have those information really quickly, 148 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: and so we're wanting to update the website to be 149 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: able to have that information to them. But there is 150 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: workshops on there that people can register for. We provide 151 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: one to one case management support. There are links to 152 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: other support services. So yeah, our website is the best 153 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: way to come into contact with us. 154 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: All right, Could people navigate child protection without a group 155 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: like yours, because I don't imagine it's easy. 156 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: It's not easy. It's really difficult. It's really difficult to 157 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: know what happens when parents are served with the Section 158 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: forty one and then five days they need to be 159 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: in court unless someone is helping them to understand. What 160 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: is it that they need to do, What do they 161 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: need to be aware of? What does a documentation mean 162 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: when you sign that, what's the next step? What do 163 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: these different orders mean? How do you show up in 164 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: those meetings with review meetings. How do you make the 165 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: best of your contact and your family time with your 166 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: children when it's been supervised. I think it's really hard. 167 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: I think it's so hard for parents to be able 168 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: to navigate that with all that they're having to, you know, 169 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: address at the same time. So I you know, I 170 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: think it is difficult, but there's a lot of strength 171 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: in parents that come looking for support. 172 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: You're the co founder. What motivated you to start this foundation? 173 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I think I worked in a school 174 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: for a little while and I just felt that I 175 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: wasn't really able to support the family unit. So I 176 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: wanted to understand what more was out there. And I 177 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: identified that parents in this space actually really wanted to 178 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: make changes and they just didn't know how to. And 179 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: for me, I think that it's really important where we 180 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: have the information to give that to families. And I 181 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: deeply believe that parents care about their kids, and children 182 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: are best suits place with their families and their parents, 183 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: and where it's safe to do so, we need to 184 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: do everything to support that. 185 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: Nadia. It's such a hard area, and no case is 186 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: the same. There's so many differences all the way through 187 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: that lead to this, but there seems to be a 188 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: perception and I don't know how strong this is or 189 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: even how real this is, but the government sometimes overreaches 190 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: and steps said and where it doesn't need to do. 191 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: You find that is that a thing or is it 192 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: more the opposite that in some cases there is some 193 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: deadbeat parents out there that just shouldn't be anywhere near 194 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: their kids, And there's probably a bit of both. 195 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: I suppose, yeah, I think that there's some parents that 196 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: their children are not safe to be in their care. 197 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: But for the majority, and in ninety nine point nine 198 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: percent of the cases that we find out Riley parents 199 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: are wanting very much to address the concerns. They're very 200 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: much wanting someone to support them, to help them to 201 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: build their capacity. They want their children home. They love 202 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: their children. So that's the majority of the cases that 203 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: we find. However, we you know, I think sometimes we 204 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: as the government, the people that are entrusted to make 205 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: sure our children are safe. They're focused on just safety 206 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: in the first instance, and we understand that that's really important, 207 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: but we then need to focus on what is in 208 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,599 Speaker 2: the best interest of children. So we definitely need to 209 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 2: make sure kids are safe, but long term it's in 210 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 2: their best interest for them to be supported with their 211 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: parents and families where it is safe to do. 212 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: So. Yeah, now you've got a reasonable grant I understand 213 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: from the state government. And Sarah Game, as the fair 214 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: go for Australian's MP these days, was instrumental in securing that. 215 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: Tell us a bit about that, Yeah. 216 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely, So I met with the anile Sarah Game a 217 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 2: few months ago and she has not met with her before, 218 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: and she was very interested in our Dad's programs specifically, 219 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: and she thought that what we were doing as an association, 220 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: as an organization was really important and she basedly asked me, 221 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: what is it that Riley needed, and Riley doesn't have 222 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: a lot of government funding at all. We don't we 223 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 2: with the direct Experience Group is to by the government, 224 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: but our funding majority comes from philanthropic We received grants, 225 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: especially from Community Capital and ten by ten Impact one hundred, 226 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: so many philanthropic hearts is why Riley has been here. 227 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: So the ten thousand dollars grant that we have to 228 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: SIVE is for computer equipment, which a lot of our 229 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: funding doesn't go to because our programs is what the 230 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: majority of our funding is covering. So it's so important 231 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: for us to be able to have consider equipment and 232 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: it equipment so that we can make sure that the 233 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: stuff that we have and we we've grown from a 234 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: staff one volunteer which was me a number of years ago, 235 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 2: and to a staff of ten. So we're expanding really 236 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 2: quickly because there's such a need. And we're incredibly grateful 237 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: for generbal Serial Games, who advocated to the PREPIA and 238 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: spoke to the honorable Katring Hilliard about our organization and 239 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: they together and it was led by Honorable Sarah Game 240 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 2: to provide us with that funding. So we're incredible graces 241 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 2: for that. 242 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, the underlying mission Nadia, you'd probably say 243 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: this is all about helping parents be better and raising 244 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: better kids, right. 245 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, our focus is about children. You know, I 246 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 2: have three children of my own. I know what it takes. 247 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: It takes a leach to raise those kids. And what 248 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: I want to do is and what our organization wants 249 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: to do, and what every staff member and our board 250 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 2: want to do within Riley and the funders is that 251 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 2: all children are safe, but where it's possible that they're 252 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: safe with their parents and their families, because that's what's 253 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 2: best for them. 254 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Ultimately, absolutely, good on you, Nadia. Thank you so 255 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: much for your time tonight. That's all really interesting in 256 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: finding out about that, and from what as far as 257 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: I remember anyways, name was Barry. What Barry was saying 258 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: was that you're helping. Obviously, I don't know if you 259 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: know the case specifically, and I don't need to know 260 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: any more details about it, but you're helping there and 261 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: hopefully they get the resolution they're looking for too. 262 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. I really appreciate your time and putting and shining 263 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: a light on this because a lot of times parents 264 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: don't actually get the focus in this system, and it's 265 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: really important to be able to support them through. 266 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: This process absolutely, Nadia, thank you and all the best 267 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: for Christmas two to you and your family. 268 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you so much. 269 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: Nadia Virginetti, who is CEO and co creator of the 270 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: Riley Foundation,