WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 12 May

0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the late Plase.

0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Good evening and thanks for joining us.

0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:12.639
<v Speaker 3>I'm James Macpherson, with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond coming

0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:17.040
<v Speaker 3>up tonight. A school teacher receives compensation after being sacked

0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:20.600
<v Speaker 3>for having an untidy desk. I live in Liza, both

0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:23.600
<v Speaker 3>quickly shuffling their papers on to make sure they'll retain

0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:24.960
<v Speaker 3>their jobs at Sky News.

0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:26.880
<v Speaker 1>How have I not been sacked already?

0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:29.000
<v Speaker 4>When I worked at the TiSER, they used to have

0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:32.160
<v Speaker 4>to come along and literally take piles of paper off

0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:36.599
<v Speaker 4>my debts because quote unquote in a newspaper newsroom it

0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:37.720
<v Speaker 4>was a fire hazard.

0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:38.600
<v Speaker 2>There you go.

0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:40.839
<v Speaker 3>Well, we'll get to that and other stories like it

0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:42.640
<v Speaker 3>a little later. Plus, when we look at what's making

0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:46.519
<v Speaker 3>news tomorrow, a report on how many Australians are traveling

0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:50.360
<v Speaker 3>overseas to select the gender of their baby, something that's

0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:53.040
<v Speaker 3>illegal here in Australia. And on the front page of

0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:58.400
<v Speaker 3>Tomorrow's Australian newspaper all the information about the Liberal leadership vote.

0:00:58.440 --> 0:00:59.960
<v Speaker 2>All of that coming up shortly.

0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:03.200
<v Speaker 3>But first, if you thought net zero was an absolutely

0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:07.200
<v Speaker 3>crazy idea, we'll wait until you hear what Twiggy Forest's

0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:12.360
<v Speaker 3>latest green fantasy is the Australian billionaire reckons net zero

0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:16.160
<v Speaker 3>is for WIMPs. He wants what he's calling real zero,

0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:20.000
<v Speaker 3>which calls for a complete ban on all fossil fuels

0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:24.200
<v Speaker 3>from twenty forty. He told the Sidney Morning Herald today,

0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:28.199
<v Speaker 3>I believe net zero is an effing con Real zero

0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.880
<v Speaker 3>is serious. Just stop burning fossil fuels. You'll get rid

0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:34.920
<v Speaker 3>of climate change because so much swings off that, and

0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:39.039
<v Speaker 3>you'll lower your cost of living and increase your standard

0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:42.279
<v Speaker 3>of living. And by the way, every politician knows that's

0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.560
<v Speaker 3>what they're there for. This is the kind of statement

0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:49.760
<v Speaker 3>that would make even Adam Bant blush. Fossil fuels gone

0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:54.320
<v Speaker 3>completely within just fifteen years, running the whole world of

0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:59.200
<v Speaker 3>breezy days and sunbeams. The problem, of course, Liz and Caleb,

0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:03.000
<v Speaker 3>is that to make wind turbines and solar panels you

0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:04.480
<v Speaker 3>actually need fossil fuels.

0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.600
<v Speaker 2>This is not zero, real zero. This is just real stupid.

0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.760
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I can't believe it. He's cracked the code.

0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.960
<v Speaker 4>You know, eight billion people on the face of the planet,

0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:18.360
<v Speaker 4>and the only person who's thought, yes, the answer here

0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:20.119
<v Speaker 4>is to just turn off.

0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:22.000
<v Speaker 1>All the fossil fuels is tweety forest.

0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:26.239
<v Speaker 4>He's worked it out, well done, twigging. There may well

0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.320
<v Speaker 4>be a reason that you're the only bloke who's running

0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:31.680
<v Speaker 4>around talking about real zero.

0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Because it would do the exact opposite of what you say.

0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he says it would have a decreased cost

0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.639
<v Speaker 1>of living. I mean, where on Earth does he get

0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:40.000
<v Speaker 1>that from?

0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.400
<v Speaker 4>Yes, what will turn off all the coal and will

0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.080
<v Speaker 4>turn off all the gas, and then the lights won't

0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.400
<v Speaker 4>be able to Actually, he's right, Sorry, I've worked out

0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:49.519
<v Speaker 4>he is right. There will be a lower cost of

0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.880
<v Speaker 4>living because you won't be able to turn the lights

0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:53.760
<v Speaker 4>on because there won't be enough power, and so your

0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.679
<v Speaker 4>power bills will go down dramatically. That's the only way

0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:58.560
<v Speaker 4>I can possibly see. And your gas bill, of course,

0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:00.720
<v Speaker 4>because that'll be outlawed too. It's the only way I

0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:03.160
<v Speaker 4>can possibly see that he could argue that this would

0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.560
<v Speaker 4>result in a reduced cost of living, and the idea

0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.520
<v Speaker 4>that it would just, you know, magically save the planet overnight.

0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.639
<v Speaker 4>You know everyone's going to buy an electric car. How

0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:14.680
<v Speaker 4>does that go for your cost of living? Et cetera,

0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.120
<v Speaker 4>et cetera. It's all good and well when you're one

0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:20.240
<v Speaker 4>of the richest blokes in Australia to run around saying, well,

0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.800
<v Speaker 4>just turn off the fossil fuels and that'll fix the world.

0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.519
<v Speaker 4>You can well afford it, but the rest of us can't.

0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.799
<v Speaker 4>That's always been the problem with net zero, let alone

0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.600
<v Speaker 4>real zero, which he says, but he reckons this is

0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:32.480
<v Speaker 4>great for business.

0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he says, everyone else is pulling out.

0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.960
<v Speaker 4>Of these renewable projects in green hydrogen, which he has

0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:39.920
<v Speaker 4>also pulled out of, by the way, he was all

0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:41.200
<v Speaker 4>about it, but.

0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:42.080
<v Speaker 1>He says this is great.

0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.520
<v Speaker 4>No one else is doing it, so I'm just hoovering

0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.160
<v Speaker 4>up all the business and making lots of money. I mean,

0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.640
<v Speaker 4>if you're making money, good for you. But you can't

0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:51.120
<v Speaker 4>tell me that the rest of us are going to

0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:52.840
<v Speaker 4>be better off with real zero.

0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.560
<v Speaker 5>And how does he figure that that could be remotely

0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:59.200
<v Speaker 5>possible by twenty forty when we're failing every single twenty

0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:03.920
<v Speaker 5>thirty times. Anyone set here in Australia with all the experts,

0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:07.080
<v Speaker 5>especially the energy companies, up in arms saying, look, we're

0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:10.560
<v Speaker 5>just not going to get there. Okay, it's not feasible.

0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:14.000
<v Speaker 5>Can someone remind this guy. I appreciate the passion. I

0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:17.080
<v Speaker 5>appreciate that he had a near death experience in twenty

0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:21.000
<v Speaker 5>sixteen which he had his Road to Damascus experience and

0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:25.480
<v Speaker 5>emerged from that this green zealot. But can someone remind

0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:28.880
<v Speaker 5>him Australia is responsible for one point three percent of

0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:33.320
<v Speaker 5>global emissions, so it really doesn't matter what we do,

0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.880
<v Speaker 5>even if we do go back to living in caves,

0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.839
<v Speaker 5>and for as long as Trump is in office, which

0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.880
<v Speaker 5>is going to be a while yet. And America, one

0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:46.480
<v Speaker 5>of the top three emitters in the world, isn't participating

0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:50.440
<v Speaker 5>in the Paris Accords. We also know China and India,

0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.719
<v Speaker 5>the top two biggest emitters, could not give a flying

0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:59.160
<v Speaker 5>rip about emissions. All of this is porky pies. All

0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:03.839
<v Speaker 5>of this is absolute nonsense. Like I say, appreciate the

0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.560
<v Speaker 5>guy's passion, and maybe if I owned a company that

0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:10.159
<v Speaker 5>was worth fifty billion dollars, I too could have the

0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:14.279
<v Speaker 5>time and passion to pour into a pet project. But

0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.599
<v Speaker 5>when you're talking about the guy that has his fingers

0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.960
<v Speaker 5>in this many Australian pies and the real world consequences

0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:24.400
<v Speaker 5>of what he's talking about, it's just laughable.

0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:27.719
<v Speaker 4>And this business about just turn off the fossil fuels,

0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:31.239
<v Speaker 4>don't use them at all, and there's an idea built

0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.800
<v Speaker 4>into that that most people want to turn off the

0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.599
<v Speaker 4>fossil fuels, that they'd be quite happy to do away

0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:38.920
<v Speaker 4>with it. But we see time and again that that's

0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.200
<v Speaker 4>simply not the case. I mean, you look at electric

0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:44.400
<v Speaker 4>vehicles for instance, which of course the Labor Party told

0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.880
<v Speaker 4>us before they won the election in twenty twenty two,

0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.200
<v Speaker 4>we're going to make up eighty nine percent of all

0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:53.760
<v Speaker 4>vehicle new vehicle sales by twenty thirty. The federal transport

0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:57.200
<v Speaker 4>departments now revise them back to twenty seven percent, which

0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.600
<v Speaker 4>is a hell of a discrepancy. But at the end

0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:03.839
<v Speaker 4>of the federal government took off the subsidy that they

0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.760
<v Speaker 4>were applying to plug in hybrid vehicles, and that had

0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:10.760
<v Speaker 4>actually been one of the fastest growing markets of electric vehicles,

0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.960
<v Speaker 4>and all of a sudden, the sales of plug in

0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:19.080
<v Speaker 4>hybrids had last month in April because the subsidy doesn't

0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:22.559
<v Speaker 4>exist anymore. So people, when they're given the choice without

0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:26.640
<v Speaker 4>any government interference, will continue to buy the product that

0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:30.520
<v Speaker 4>uses fossil fuels. There's no great desire amongst people to

0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:33.520
<v Speaker 4>walk away from fossil fuels. They'll only do it if

0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:35.520
<v Speaker 4>the government gives them a dirty wad of cash in

0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:36.960
<v Speaker 4>their hand in order to do so.

0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Well. I'll tell you who won't walk away from fossil fuels.

0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:41.240
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned them. This is the Chinese.

0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:44.479
<v Speaker 3>So can you imagine within fifteen years no fossil fuels

0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.240
<v Speaker 3>used in Australia. But the Chinese, meanwhile, are going from

0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.000
<v Speaker 3>strength to strength. Talk about a way to not only

0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.400
<v Speaker 3>bankrupt your country, but to make it completely defenseless. But

0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:57.239
<v Speaker 3>Tweini going from net zero to real zero. You mentioned

0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.840
<v Speaker 3>a green hydrogen. He believed that would be a super

0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:02.320
<v Speaker 3>fuel of the future, but he's failed with that. This

0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.560
<v Speaker 3>is typical of those who espouse the green dream. The

0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.800
<v Speaker 3>more it fails, the harder they double down. You know

0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.920
<v Speaker 3>that the Albanezy government's answer to the increasing cost of

0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:16.240
<v Speaker 3>electricity is more renewables. So the worse it gets, the

0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.960
<v Speaker 3>more they double down on their mistakes. That's exactly what

0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Twiggy is doing. But I guess he can afford to

0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:21.560
<v Speaker 3>so good?

0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:22.880
<v Speaker 6>Well can he afford to?

0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:26.440
<v Speaker 5>Because we know that Trump is looking to ban those

0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.560
<v Speaker 5>green energy tax credits that Biden came up with.

0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:31.120
<v Speaker 6>He says that's boguus.

0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:34.520
<v Speaker 5>It just allows companies to keep burning fossil fuels while

0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:35.840
<v Speaker 5>patting themselves.

0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:37.720
<v Speaker 6>On the back for saving the planet and doing such

0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:38.520
<v Speaker 6>a great job.

0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.760
<v Speaker 5>He reckons he's just gonna I don't know, sweet talk

0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:45.600
<v Speaker 5>Trump around, but I do not see that happening.

0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.800
<v Speaker 6>By the president who got elected.

0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:51.800
<v Speaker 5>On a drill baby, drill platform, and he means business

0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:56.360
<v Speaker 5>to South Australia now, where parents that whose children attend

0:07:56.400 --> 0:08:01.960
<v Speaker 5>a private Catholic school in South Australia have been very

0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:06.520
<v Speaker 5>very angered, rightly so, and extremely disappointed in their school

0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:10.600
<v Speaker 5>when a recent sports day revealed a boy was completing

0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:15.520
<v Speaker 5>against their girls. It's a thirteen year old transstudent who

0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:21.840
<v Speaker 5>absolutely came first in both running, high jump, javelin discus,

0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:26.760
<v Speaker 5>beat records some of which were up to thirty years old.

0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:31.040
<v Speaker 5>So the parents are naturally saying, excuse me, this happened

0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:35.960
<v Speaker 5>last year with the same student. Our daughters are losing

0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:40.760
<v Speaker 5>to this biological boy. Why are you allowing this to happen.

0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:44.840
<v Speaker 5>But once again, Catholic parents and Christians across Australia, you

0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:49.240
<v Speaker 5>can't count on the government to back in basic biology.

0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:53.760
<v Speaker 5>Here's what the Education Minister, Blair Boyer in South Australia

0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:54.440
<v Speaker 5>had to say.

0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.480
<v Speaker 6>He said, I can see that they are angry.

0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.080
<v Speaker 5>But what I would say to them is the minister,

0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:02.400
<v Speaker 5>I say to all our schools, I want them to

0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:07.080
<v Speaker 5>be places where everybody feels welcome. And what can you

0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:12.480
<v Speaker 5>expect from a government that has enshrined in law a denial.

0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.240
<v Speaker 6>Of basic biology.

0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:18.400
<v Speaker 5>This is the South Australian Departments of Education policy.

0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:20.199
<v Speaker 6>It reads the goal of full.

0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:24.080
<v Speaker 5>Participation by gender diverse children and young people in all

0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:28.720
<v Speaker 5>types of sport. Activity includes participation in competitive sport.

0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.080
<v Speaker 6>All children and young people.

0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:34.600
<v Speaker 5>Must be supported to participate in events that align with

0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:39.640
<v Speaker 5>their gender identity. This includes all sport run by schools,

0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:45.240
<v Speaker 5>including inter school competitions and school sports South Australia.

0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.040
<v Speaker 6>So what is the school supposed to do.

0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:51.640
<v Speaker 5>It's got all these rightly angry parents on their hands

0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:53.240
<v Speaker 5>and the poor schools just.

0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:56.960
<v Speaker 6>Saying, look, this is the law. We have to do

0:09:57.679 --> 0:09:58.760
<v Speaker 6>what the law.

0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:02.520
<v Speaker 5>States, and that is to allow this boy to compete

0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:08.480
<v Speaker 5>and beat all of your daughters. This once again, every

0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:11.600
<v Speaker 5>time this comes up, it does my absolute head in

0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:17.280
<v Speaker 5>because once you've changed the law to profer feelings over facts,

0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:21.160
<v Speaker 5>all of the schools hands are tied, and rightly so.

0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:24.360
<v Speaker 5>These Catholic parents who pay top dollar to send their

0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.640
<v Speaker 5>child to a private school in the.

0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:31.240
<v Speaker 6>Hopes that they won't be exposed to this kind of

0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:32.680
<v Speaker 6>gender ideology.

0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:37.440
<v Speaker 5>They're angry, the school's helpless, and the politicians just give

0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:40.520
<v Speaker 5>off these one liners of we understand you're angry, but

0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:41.839
<v Speaker 5>we don't care.

0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.520
<v Speaker 3>We don't care, or the Education minister with that statement,

0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.160
<v Speaker 3>I can see that parents are angry. The question I

0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.600
<v Speaker 3>would ask is, so why do you think, minister, that

0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:54.200
<v Speaker 3>parents are angry? Any idea as to why they might

0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:58.280
<v Speaker 3>be upset? And parents, by all reports, are ropable, not

0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.680
<v Speaker 3>only because their daughters are being unfairly disadvantage on the

0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:03.720
<v Speaker 3>sport field, but the very reason they sent their kids

0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.320
<v Speaker 3>to a Catholic school was to avoid much of the

0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:09.600
<v Speaker 3>nonsense that goes on in the public system, only to

0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:13.240
<v Speaker 3>find the Catholic school can't protect their kids either. They

0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:17.520
<v Speaker 3>put the concerns for one child above all the other kids.

0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:19.760
<v Speaker 3>That's the first mistake. The second mistake is they're going

0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.520
<v Speaker 3>to destroy girls' sports. How many of these kids will

0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.720
<v Speaker 3>be back on the athletics track next year having learned

0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.840
<v Speaker 3>there's no point competing because there's a kid who obviously

0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:32.840
<v Speaker 3>has an unfair advantage being of a different gender is

0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.040
<v Speaker 3>going to destroy them all over again, so girls will

0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:39.719
<v Speaker 3>just quit playing sport again. You're starting to normalize a falsehood.

0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:44.120
<v Speaker 3>You're teaching children this gender ideology, theory that there are

0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:48.040
<v Speaker 3>numerous genders, that genders are interchangeable. But the worst thing

0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:51.760
<v Speaker 3>I think about this is you're undermining the goodwill of

0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:55.920
<v Speaker 3>good people towards a kid who I presume has gender dysphoria.

0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.760
<v Speaker 3>According to the news reports, many of the parents were

0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.599
<v Speaker 3>at pains to tell the journalist, we don't want to

0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.480
<v Speaker 3>see this boy abused. We don't want to see this

0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.640
<v Speaker 3>boy ostracized. It's not about this boy and making an

0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:11.319
<v Speaker 3>example of him. It's about fairness for our daughters. But

0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:16.040
<v Speaker 3>when you ignore basic biology and fairness, then you drive

0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:19.120
<v Speaker 3>parents to getting really upset, and whatever good will they

0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:23.240
<v Speaker 3>had towards this student threatens to be undermined. So you're

0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:26.640
<v Speaker 3>doing the young boy with gender dysphoria a disservice by

0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:28.520
<v Speaker 3>allowing him to participate in girls sports.

0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.600
<v Speaker 1>And surely fairness is the number one.

0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:35.040
<v Speaker 4>Issue here and it always safety, it always has been right.

0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:37.840
<v Speaker 1>So this is not legislation that should be noted.

0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.719
<v Speaker 4>It's departmental policy which could change at any time, and

0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:42.920
<v Speaker 4>I would have thought, as a Catholic school, you don't

0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:46.120
<v Speaker 4>have to follow departmental policy because you're not operated by

0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:47.400
<v Speaker 4>the Department of Education.

0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:49.480
<v Speaker 1>You can do whatever the hell you want. And they've

0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:53.160
<v Speaker 1>still made the choice to do this. But the policy itself,

0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:54.560
<v Speaker 1>which is.

0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.880
<v Speaker 4>What the minister has backed in and I thought Blair

0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:58.000
<v Speaker 4>Boy was smarter than this.

0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:00.840
<v Speaker 1>But the idea that the number but one thing.

0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:03.400
<v Speaker 4>Is inclusion, well to that, I would say, and I

0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:06.840
<v Speaker 4>understand that the goal, which is to not ostracize any.

0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Particular student on board with that.

0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.000
<v Speaker 4>But I would say, if you had a student who

0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:15.360
<v Speaker 4>was in a wheelchair and he said that he wanted

0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:18.400
<v Speaker 4>to compete in the cricket team, do you think they

0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:22.000
<v Speaker 4>would change the composition of the sport in order to

0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:25.079
<v Speaker 4>accommodate one child in a wheelchair in the cricket team.

0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:29.000
<v Speaker 4>Probably not, because he can't bat, he can't bowl, and

0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:31.000
<v Speaker 4>he'd find it very difficult to field.

0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.560
<v Speaker 1>And so you say, well, sorry, there are.

0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.400
<v Speaker 4>Just some things that you can't do because of a

0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:38.040
<v Speaker 4>physical position you are in.

0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:40.960
<v Speaker 1>And surely we can also say that to a child

0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:42.359
<v Speaker 1>with gender dysphoria.

0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.080
<v Speaker 4>If you identify as a girl, that is fine, and

0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:48.080
<v Speaker 4>we'll support you whatever, But you can't compete as a

0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.960
<v Speaker 4>girl in the school sports because it's not fair to

0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.200
<v Speaker 4>the biological girls in the school and it's not safe

0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:57.320
<v Speaker 4>on a physical level, particularly once you've gone through puberty

0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.200
<v Speaker 4>for the girls to be competing against. You just have

0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:04.360
<v Speaker 4>to accept that sometimes those things aren't available to you

0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:07.439
<v Speaker 4>because there is something different about you. I don't think

0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.640
<v Speaker 4>that's to exclude someone. It's not to say that they

0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:14.520
<v Speaker 4>are lesser than It's just to acknowledge an obvious truth.

0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:16.800
<v Speaker 4>And of course it's the same in the military, right

0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean I wouldn't qualify. I mean, the rules may

0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:20.880
<v Speaker 4>be different these days.

0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:23.760
<v Speaker 4>They may have loosened them because they're just so desperate

0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:25.760
<v Speaker 4>to get people in. But once upon a time I

0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.920
<v Speaker 4>would not qualify for the military because I have problems

0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.160
<v Speaker 4>with my left leg. It's shorter than my right leg,

0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:32.960
<v Speaker 4>and my foots bung and all this sort of stuff.

0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.480
<v Speaker 4>So once upon a time they say, no, you cannot

0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.360
<v Speaker 4>participate in the military because you are not a fit

0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.280
<v Speaker 4>and able person to go out onto the battlefield.

0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:42.240
<v Speaker 1>And they're going through.

0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.320
<v Speaker 4>This discussion in the US again with transgender people at

0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:47.680
<v Speaker 4>the moment, and you know that Trump said when he

0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.520
<v Speaker 4>came to power again that he would get rid of

0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:52.680
<v Speaker 4>transgender people in the military.

0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:54.640
<v Speaker 1>And the day is ticking down.

0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.480
<v Speaker 4>June sixth is the day that they will all be

0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:01.480
<v Speaker 4>booted out. And the Defeend Secretary pa Hexith has said, look,

0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:05.000
<v Speaker 4>you have the opportunity to leave now if you want,

0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:09.440
<v Speaker 4>but if you don't on June sixth, we will remove you.

0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Here he is talking about this policy.

0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:20.240
<v Speaker 7>We are leaving warkness and weakness behind. No more pronouns,

0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:28.280
<v Speaker 7>no more climate change obsession, no more emergency vaccine mandates.

0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:32.160
<v Speaker 1>No more dudes in dresses. We're done with that.

0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:38.760
<v Speaker 7>We're focused on lethality, meritocracy, accountability, standards, and readiness.

0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:41.840
<v Speaker 4>And of course all the usual suspects have come out

0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.720
<v Speaker 4>and said it's discriminatory and how dare you and it's

0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:46.880
<v Speaker 4>shameful and all this other stuff.

0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:48.440
<v Speaker 1>But I'll make the same.

0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:52.240
<v Speaker 4>Point as I made just before about a transgender child

0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.680
<v Speaker 4>competing in sport as a girl who is obviously a boy.

0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.760
<v Speaker 4>If you are a transgender person, you know, maybe they're

0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:04.080
<v Speaker 4>off jobs. You can compete a complete sorry within the military.

0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:08.760
<v Speaker 4>But if you're a transgender you have suffered from or

0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:12.480
<v Speaker 4>are suffering from a mental disorder, which is gender dysphoria.

0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:16.560
<v Speaker 4>It's in the DSM. It is a diagnosable mental illness.

0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.320
<v Speaker 4>Now we have ways we say we can treat that.

0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:21.680
<v Speaker 4>It's the only mental illness on the face of the

0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:25.680
<v Speaker 4>earth where we actually lean into what is the problem

0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.720
<v Speaker 4>to say we can then treat it. You're a person

0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.640
<v Speaker 4>who is fundamentally, whether you like it or not, suffering

0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:35.160
<v Speaker 4>with a mental battle, and so on that basis, it's

0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.720
<v Speaker 4>not unfair to say that you're not a fit and

0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.440
<v Speaker 4>proper person to serve in the military, just as you

0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.000
<v Speaker 4>would say to someone who's got a gammy leg that

0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:45.360
<v Speaker 4>they're not a fit and proper person to serve in

0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.320
<v Speaker 4>the military. You want your best and brightest and certainly

0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:50.800
<v Speaker 4>people you don't have to worry too much about when

0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.280
<v Speaker 4>they're on the front line serving in the military. And

0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.800
<v Speaker 4>if you've got someone who is being treated for a

0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.280
<v Speaker 4>mental illness and they are transgender or any other mental

0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:00.520
<v Speaker 4>illness for that matter, they're not what the sort of

0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:02.800
<v Speaker 4>person you want on the front lines, because they are

0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:04.119
<v Speaker 4>a liability and a risk.

0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:04.959
<v Speaker 1>It's as simple as that.

0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Beyond that, there's the ongoing requirement of medication, especially once

0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:13.560
<v Speaker 3>they've transitioned to sustain that. And furthermore, Donald Trump pointed

0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.720
<v Speaker 3>out that if you've got a group of people men

0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:20.280
<v Speaker 3>asserting to be women and then requiring everybody else to

0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:26.280
<v Speaker 3>honor that his words, falsehood, then you're lacking the humility

0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:29.400
<v Speaker 3>and selflessness that is required to be part of the military,

0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:32.280
<v Speaker 3>where you're literally willing to lay down your life, not

0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:36.040
<v Speaker 3>demanding that other people use the correct pronouns for you

0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:37.120
<v Speaker 3>on the battlefield.

0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:38.399
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting.

0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.320
<v Speaker 3>Andrew Hastiback in twenty seventeen, of course he's the opposition

0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:45.760
<v Speaker 3>defense spokesperson. He pointed out that the reason he left

0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.879
<v Speaker 3>the military was he was sick of social engineering. And

0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.960
<v Speaker 3>of course we have difficulty now recruiting people for the military,

0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.840
<v Speaker 3>he says, that's the reason he left. He quoted figures

0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:58.080
<v Speaker 3>saying that Australian taxpayers had spent a million dollars on

0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:02.399
<v Speaker 3>helping military person and l to transition to the opposite gender.

0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:05.359
<v Speaker 3>Is about twenty seven people over the five years up

0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:08.639
<v Speaker 3>to twenty seventeen, he said, and this continues in the

0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.320
<v Speaker 3>Australian military. So while the US military have said we're

0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.640
<v Speaker 3>not doing this anymore, we're focused on one thing lethality.

0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:18.720
<v Speaker 3>The Australian military last year had an International Day against

0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:24.240
<v Speaker 3>homophobia by biphobia wherever it is, bisexual phobia whatever the

0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.919
<v Speaker 3>word is for that, and transphobia, and they had a

0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:31.920
<v Speaker 3>big article on the ADF website with a transgendered person

0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.320
<v Speaker 3>who's serving in the military saying getting a transition is

0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:35.760
<v Speaker 3>the best thing that ever.

0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Happened in my life.

0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.199
<v Speaker 3>And so you've got two very different approaches to this

0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:43.560
<v Speaker 3>issue between Australia and our main military ally the US.

0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:48.240
<v Speaker 5>Well, Trump knows that in these tenuous geopolitical times, you

0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:52.359
<v Speaker 5>need a weaponized military, and that's what he and Heg Saith,

0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:57.080
<v Speaker 5>who's the Defense Secretary now in the Trump administration, have

0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:01.760
<v Speaker 5>repeatedly said, we're returning to Mission first principles.

0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:02.760
<v Speaker 6>And this is that.

0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:07.159
<v Speaker 5>Just last week they ordered the Pentagon to order that

0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:12.040
<v Speaker 5>all their bases, all their military schools, all their military academies,

0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:15.959
<v Speaker 5>review their libraries and get rid of all books that

0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:21.200
<v Speaker 5>involve LGBTIQ matters, as well as any books and literature

0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:26.480
<v Speaker 5>exploring racial identity. They have absolutely had it with this.

0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:27.199
<v Speaker 6>Kind of stuff.

0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:30.720
<v Speaker 5>One of my favorite Hegseth quotes, he said earlier this year,

0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:34.000
<v Speaker 5>he said, our diversity is our strength is the single

0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:38.080
<v Speaker 5>dumbest phrase in military history, because, of course, when you're

0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:41.880
<v Speaker 5>talking military, only one thing matters, and that is, as

0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.760
<v Speaker 5>you say, the best and the brightest are on the

0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:47.960
<v Speaker 5>front lines. It doesn't matter whether they're operating drones, it

0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:50.199
<v Speaker 5>doesn't matter if they've got guns in their hands, it

0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:53.280
<v Speaker 5>doesn't matter if they're peacekeepers on the ground. You want

0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.919
<v Speaker 5>people that you can rely on in all circumstances and

0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:59.720
<v Speaker 5>are in no way going to be a liability to

0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:00.520
<v Speaker 5>to the Dean.

0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:02.879
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting the changing perceptions on this.

0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:05.600
<v Speaker 3>Back in twenty nineteen, a Gallop poll found seventy one

0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:08.439
<v Speaker 3>percent of Americans had no problem with transgendered people in

0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:11.280
<v Speaker 3>the military. As of February this year, that seventy one

0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:15.240
<v Speaker 3>percent has fallen to fifty eight percent, so more Americans

0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:19.240
<v Speaker 3>are becoming persuaded that it's not the place for transgendered

0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:21.480
<v Speaker 3>people in the military. But regardless of that, you don't

0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:23.960
<v Speaker 3>do a poll to work out who should serve on

0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:26.159
<v Speaker 3>the front line of your military. You talk to your

0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:28.800
<v Speaker 3>military people and say what's the best way to protect

0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:29.440
<v Speaker 3>the country and.

0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:31.120
<v Speaker 2>Just do that whatever it is.

0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:34.640
<v Speaker 3>Speaking of Poles, Anthony Albanesi, of course won the pole

0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:38.160
<v Speaker 3>and is now getting his front bench in order. They'll

0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:40.840
<v Speaker 3>be sworn in tomorrow morning at nine o'clock. So he've

0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:43.919
<v Speaker 3>got two big news events tomorrow, the swearing in of

0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:46.879
<v Speaker 3>the Labor government's front bench and of course the Liberal

0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:48.160
<v Speaker 3>Party selecting.

0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:48.760
<v Speaker 2>A new leader.

0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:52.160
<v Speaker 3>Anthi Albanzi has made some big changes, although at least

0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:55.399
<v Speaker 3>that's what the newspaper headline says. Albanzi makes big changes

0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:58.240
<v Speaker 3>to the front bench. I'm not so sure Anthe Albanizi

0:20:58.320 --> 0:20:59.880
<v Speaker 3>makes the changes as the fact.

0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:01.240
<v Speaker 2>It's funny, isn't it.

0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:03.280
<v Speaker 3>The Labor Party, they get into government and then you

0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:06.400
<v Speaker 3>work out it's actually decided there by quotas for men

0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:09.360
<v Speaker 3>and women from the left, from the right, from Victoria,

0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:10.240
<v Speaker 3>from New South Wales.

0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:12.000
<v Speaker 2>It's very very democratic.

0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:14.840
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, Anti alban Ezi reckons he's got the best people

0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:16.080
<v Speaker 3>selected for the front bench.

0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:20.960
<v Speaker 8>I've changed to arranger portfolios around.

0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:22.720
<v Speaker 2>I've got people.

0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:25.439
<v Speaker 8>Who are I think, in the best positions.

0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:26.640
<v Speaker 2>That's what happens.

0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:30.600
<v Speaker 8>And just as there are new members entering the cabinet,

0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:35.359
<v Speaker 8>there were new members last year as well, so there's.

0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:38.520
<v Speaker 3>A couple of interesting changes that have been talking points today.

0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:42.400
<v Speaker 3>Tanya Plebisec of course, has been moved from the environment

0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:45.600
<v Speaker 3>portfolio to Social Services, which most people have been saying

0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:48.720
<v Speaker 3>today is an absolute coulder sack. It's funny, Liz, because

0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:51.399
<v Speaker 3>Tannya Plebersec is regarded as one of the smartest people

0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:54.479
<v Speaker 3>in the labor government. But how smart are you if

0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:56.480
<v Speaker 3>you go around boasting that if you'd stood for the

0:21:56.560 --> 0:22:00.600
<v Speaker 3>leadership against Ante Albanzi, you would have won. Consequence, she

0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:05.600
<v Speaker 3>finds herself now in Social services writing checks for welfare.

0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:08.679
<v Speaker 3>Another interesting one, of course, is Chris Bowen keeps his

0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:12.760
<v Speaker 3>Energy Ministry portfolio, which is why I'll be down shopping

0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:15.160
<v Speaker 3>at what's that store called Dusk where you buy the candles.

0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:17.080
<v Speaker 2>I'll be down there tomorrow.

0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:20.600
<v Speaker 3>Mark Butler gets not only health but the NDS and

0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:23.480
<v Speaker 3>caleber I reckon. That's an interesting one because I would

0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:26.040
<v Speaker 3>have thought the NDIS is so cumbersome and in so

0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:29.240
<v Speaker 3>in need of reform. Can you really do health and

0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:32.239
<v Speaker 3>NDIS or should they have someone specialized to deal with

0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:34.359
<v Speaker 3>that one? And I would love to know what you

0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:37.320
<v Speaker 3>think about Michelle Roland as the Attorney General.

0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.919
<v Speaker 4>It's funny you should ask games, because yes, I have

0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:41.800
<v Speaker 4>some thoughts.

0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:44.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, talk about failing upwards. So I mean she

0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:45.879
<v Speaker 1>was an abject.

0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:49.240
<v Speaker 4>Failure as Communications minister, you know, because she pushed the

0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:53.040
<v Speaker 4>miss and Disinformation Billain we dislike her for that, but

0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:55.800
<v Speaker 4>that was an abject failure. I mean they pulled the

0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:59.120
<v Speaker 4>legislation because they knew it wouldn't get over the line, right,

0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:01.879
<v Speaker 4>So who one big piece, you know, a bit like

0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:03.240
<v Speaker 4>albow and the voice.

0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:04.679
<v Speaker 1>Her one great.

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:06.520
<v Speaker 4>Achievement that she would be able to go out and

0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:08.600
<v Speaker 4>trumpet and talk about what she did when she was

0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:11.200
<v Speaker 4>Communications minister, the Missing Disinformation Bill.

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:14.080
<v Speaker 1>She couldn't get it over the line. So she's failed

0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:16.360
<v Speaker 1>at the first hurdle, fall at the first hurdle.

0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:19.360
<v Speaker 4>When it came to being communications minister. And now somehow

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 4>she's Attorney General. I mean, as Paul was saying before,

0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:25.719
<v Speaker 4>you know, she failed with one piece of legislation. So

0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:27.480
<v Speaker 4>now they've just put her in charge of all the

0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:31.160
<v Speaker 4>laws because that's definitely going to go well. And Anne

0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 4>Ali being brought forward into the cabinet. I mean, again,

0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 4>she's reasonably in offensive, but I didn't see her do

0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:43.240
<v Speaker 4>a particularly good job as a minister in the last government.

0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:45.919
<v Speaker 4>Of course, carried on about Palestine and whatever along with

0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:49.120
<v Speaker 4>Ed Husick who's been booted, but there was nothing particularly

0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:50.160
<v Speaker 4>impressive about her.

0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:52.040
<v Speaker 1>She makes it into capall business.

0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:54.119
<v Speaker 2>She's been an academic before going in.

0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:56.359
<v Speaker 4>Well, well, who would know more about small business than

0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:57.000
<v Speaker 4>an academic?

0:23:57.080 --> 0:23:59.439
<v Speaker 1>James, come on, seriously, what are you talking about? But

0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:00.399
<v Speaker 1>this is this, this is the thing.

0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:02.159
<v Speaker 4>I think it's good for people to actually see that

0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:04.440
<v Speaker 4>the inner workings of how this stuff happens in the

0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 4>Labor Party, because none of it is about merit. It's

0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:10.720
<v Speaker 4>all about you know, who owes who a favor and

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 4>what faction you're sitting in, what state you come from, etc.

0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 1>It is like the definition of jobs for the boys.

0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:17.960
<v Speaker 6>If you are.

0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:21.159
<v Speaker 1>Aligning yourself with the right guy, you get yourself.

0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:23.560
<v Speaker 4>In the right position for the job. It's not about

0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:25.920
<v Speaker 4>who is the best person to do it. I mean,

0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:28.120
<v Speaker 4>you can't tell me. And you know, I had issues

0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 4>with Mark Dreyfus when he was Attorney General last time,

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:33.159
<v Speaker 4>and perhaps he's getting a bit long in the tooth,

0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:37.639
<v Speaker 4>and his demeanor certainly changed a lot after his wife died,

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:40.200
<v Speaker 4>and I wondered whether perhaps he should have just given

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:42.800
<v Speaker 4>up politics because he just wasn't in the right place.

0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:46.639
<v Speaker 4>But you cannot tell me that Mark Dreyfus would do

0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 4>a worse job than Michelle Roland, or conversely that Michelle

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 4>Roland is going to do a better job than Mark

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 4>Dreyfus case would do as attorney general.

0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:58.879
<v Speaker 1>For heaven's sake, not whatsoever.

0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:02.920
<v Speaker 5>But as we've said repeatedly, it's faction deals.

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 6>You got to do the deals.

0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 5>And Albanezy is basically doing as he's told by the

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:11.520
<v Speaker 5>ruling faction leaders. And when you've got as much of

0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:15.320
<v Speaker 5>a majority as that guy does, who cares anyway, be

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 5>prepared for a lot more of this in the years

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 5>to come. Overseas now where an interesting video of three

0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 5>world leaders has gone a viral today with people claiming.

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:32.880
<v Speaker 6>Is this cocaine? Is this cocaine in this meeting on

0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 6>the table.

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:38.160
<v Speaker 5>Of course, the press, particularly the French press, because as

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:41.960
<v Speaker 5>you'll soon see in this video, President Macron is featured,

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:45.639
<v Speaker 5>is saying this is scandalous what people are trying to

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:49.000
<v Speaker 5>make of this, it's just a dirty tissue for.

0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 6>Crying out loud.

0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 5>But watch this video of Macron, German Chancellor Merz and

0:25:56.920 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 5>Keir Starmer pay close attention to the white thing on

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 5>the table and see what you make of it.

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot more.

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 9>Literally, they made a lot out of that sheepish expression

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:33.119
<v Speaker 9>as Macron removed it from the table and kind of

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:33.880
<v Speaker 9>looked funny.

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 5>But I want argues he'd do that even if it

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 5>was a dirty tissue. But of course, the people who

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:45.400
<v Speaker 5>love using a I didn't miss a beat. Within seconds,

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 5>this video made the rounds on the interwebs, with people

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:54.200
<v Speaker 5>saying no, no, if they'd actually been doing coke, this

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 5>is what that gathering would have looked like.

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:13.159
<v Speaker 10>Never was it white powder?

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 6>Was it a tissue?

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 5>I cannot believe how much this went viral today. People

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 5>were posting it millions of views on the Twitter sphere.

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 6>It was an absolute storm in a tea.

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:28.680
<v Speaker 1>It's clearly a tissue.

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, besides the kokes that we're not

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:34.639
<v Speaker 4>suggesting that they were doing coke, But you know, honestly,

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:37.679
<v Speaker 4>I'd be more worried about the dirty tissue on the table.

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:41.399
<v Speaker 4>What sort of grub leaves their dirty tissue sitting on

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:43.959
<v Speaker 4>the table and mean only things to get rid of it.

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 4>When the cameras finally start going, because he had no

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 4>problem when they all walked into the room, income sirk

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:52.640
<v Speaker 4>here and all the cameras along with them. It's only

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 4>when they start taking photos. I'm not better, get me

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 4>dirty chip, Like, mate, didn't you learn anything when you

0:27:58.359 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 4>were a child.

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:01.119
<v Speaker 1>I think his parents need to be spoken to.

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 3>We know conclusively that it was not drugs. And the

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 3>reason we know is because you've got the French, the

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 3>British and the German leader.

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:10.440
<v Speaker 2>But who's absent Hunter.

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 3>Biden is not there, so we know it's a perfectly

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 3>legitimate thing. And as you said, Caleb, they walk into

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:20.720
<v Speaker 3>the places media already there. They're joking that. Some of

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:22.120
<v Speaker 3>them look down at the table. They don't do anything.

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 3>It's only when they get ready to pose for the

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 3>photo they tidy up the desk as any person normally

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 3>would do. The fact that some people who I guess

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 3>pursue credibility, like Denesh Desuza, is pushing this ridiculous conspiracy online.

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how he hoped to have credibility with

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 3>anything else when he's coming up.

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 2>With rubbish like this. But there you go.

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:46.120
<v Speaker 4>Well, let's be honest, some world leaders may well do

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 4>a bit of job if they were on cocaine.

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, Joe Biden probably could.

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 4>Have done with a little bit from under it could have,

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, pepped.

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Him up a bit.

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 4>Anyway, while we're talking about world leaders, Donald Trump may

0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 4>well be in for a gift from they're offering him.

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 4>The Katari government are offering him a brand new plane,

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 4>a Boeing seven four seven that he says, if he

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 4>takes ownership of it, will be turned into a new

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 4>Air Force one. There are two planes that currently operate

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 4>as Air Force ones. They are both seven four sevens,

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 4>but they're thirty years old and they're in need of renovation.

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 4>So the Qatari government said, look, mate, we'll fix you

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 4>up here, will lend you one, and I'll give you

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 4>one actually, and you can sort of do that up

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 4>and use it in the meantime, and then at such

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 4>time as the other two are available, they can come

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 4>back into service. So Trump is already saying this isn't

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 4>a done deal yet, by the way, but he's already saying, yep, fantastic.

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll do it up.

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 4>I'll fly around in it, and then at the end

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 4>of my presidency in twenty twenty nine, it'll go into

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:48.959
<v Speaker 4>my presidential library. And of course people have hit out

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 4>and said, but hang on a minute, can you really

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 4>be taking gifts from a foreign government. I mean, you know,

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 4>maybe a box of chocolates or something when you go

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 4>to visit a foreign dignitaries, okay, or they give you

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 4>some sort of local souvenir. But when the Katari government saying, hello,

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 4>mister Trump, here is a Boeing seven four seven, is.

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>It not a little bit over the line?

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 4>Trump says no, he posted on his platform truth Social

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 4>So the fact that the Defense Department is getting a

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:19.719
<v Speaker 4>gift free of charge of a seven four seven aircraft

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 4>to replace the forty year old Air Force one temporarily

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 4>in a very public and transparent transaction, so bothers the

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 4>crooked Democrats that they insist we pay top dollar for

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 4>the plane.

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Anybody can do that. The dims a world class loses MAGA.

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 4>So basically, if someone offers you something for free, you

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 4>may as well take it.

0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, joe by ilk.

0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 4>Peterson I think would probably be well on board with that.

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't let the thing go anywhere near the air

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 4>without checking it at least ten times.

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, if.

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 4>You thought he is the greatest way to monitor a

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 4>foreign government, would it not be for a foreign government

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 4>to give you a play where you know you've got

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 4>communications with the military and all this sort of stuff

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 4>on board and then tap it and keep an eye

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 4>on what the US is doing. Like you know, I

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 4>get what Trump's saying saving a lot of money, but

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 4>there are some serious integrity issues here.

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's the perception of a conflict of interest, right,

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 3>and that the Katari government. Let's be honest, no one

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 3>gives away any something for free.

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:24.479
<v Speaker 2>So there's the perception issue.

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 3>But the security issue is massive. You know, it's not

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 3>a trojan horse, it's a trojan plane. There's the added

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 3>factor that Katar, of course, we're harboring hamas leaders not

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 3>that long ago and have connections to terrorism. Imagine if

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 3>Obama took a plane from a Muslim country, the right

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 3>and the Mega supporters would have gone off their heads at.

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 2>This kind of stuff.

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 3>The biggest issue is not a Boeing jet from Katar

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 3>or a jet from Qatar as a gift. The bigger

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 3>issue is Boeing itself, which is one of the great

0:31:55.840 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 3>American companies who've been working on a replacement Air Force

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 3>one since twenty eighteen. It was meant to be done

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 3>by now, but now they're saying it'll probably be twenty

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 3>twenty nine, maybe even later than that, before it's ready.

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 3>They were given a contract of three point nine billion dollars.

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 3>It's gone billions of dollars over that. The real issue

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 3>is why can't American companies make stuff like they used to?

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 3>That's what we should be talking about, rather than whether

0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 3>or not it's appropriate to take a gift from Katar.

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 3>Trump should be focusing on Boeing, not on freebies from Qatar.

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 5>Indeed, and Boeing has had all kinds of troubles, as

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 5>we've talked about on this show before.

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 6>Weirdly, the whistleblowers keep.

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 5>Turning up dead. That's that's very strange. But there's two encounting.

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 5>I just love how Trump keeps referring to this is

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 5>just a fiscally smart move for the country, Like.

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 6>Why wouldn't we It's worth millions of dollars.

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 5>This is something the taxpayer doesn't have to pay for.

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 6>No conflict of interest to see here.

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 5>Trust Trump, the businessman, the ultimate businessman to try and

0:32:57.200 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 5>sell this, says, Oh, guys, at least we're not saying

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 5>for it.

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 6>Isn't that a great deal?

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 5>Who's going to look a gift hors in the mouth. Meanwhile,

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 5>everyone's looking at that gift oft in the mouth, being

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 5>like from Qatar. Really, to be clear, the Qatari government

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 5>has not said that this is a done deal, so

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 5>we don't know that it's actually going to go ahead.

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 5>But obviously Trump is well and truly flagged that in

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 5>the event that they are willing to give it to him,

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 5>he's more than willing to take it.

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 4>But this opens up a really big problem, isn't because

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 4>if he takes a plane from Qatar, and that's how

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 4>you then decide that diplomacy is to be done. I

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 4>mean worldwide, do countries just start going around offering things

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 4>to everyone else and say, ah, well, let's see how

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 4>we go here. And of course we know China has

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 4>been in this business for a long time in a

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 4>very different way, debt diplomacy, where they offer you money

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 4>to do things in your country. Of course, there are

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 4>no strings attached to that money whatsoever. And don't forget

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 4>that Daniel Andrews wanted to do that here in Australia.

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.719
<v Speaker 4>He wanted to sign up to Belt and Road and

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 4>get money out of China to build infrastructure in Australia,

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 4>and the federal government slapped that down and said no,

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 4>it is a massive security risk if you're allowed to

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 4>take a plane from Qatar. I think that spills bad

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 4>things for not only the US, but the rest of

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 4>the world in terms of this sort of debt diplomacy.

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:21.280
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you.

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 4>Something and then one day I'll come along and ask

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 4>you to scratch my back, and what are you supposed

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 4>to do?

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Then imagine how upset Airbus Elbow would be for this news.

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Trump gets a plane from Qatar and Elbow

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 3>gets what a panda from China, So he'd be pretty

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 3>ticked off Trump. Of course, it's all about corruption and

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:40.719
<v Speaker 3>getting money. And of course Trump's off side at Elon Musk. Well,

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 3>he's just a fascist, according to many in Europe, because

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 3>Elon Musk has been actively supporting right wing political parties

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 3>across Europe. There's a ninety eight year old World War

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 3>Two veteran who's had enough of the fascist Elon Musk,

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 3>and he reckons we've beaten fascism once before, we can

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 3>beat it again. And here's Ted sorry Ken Turner's plan

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:04.399
<v Speaker 3>to overcome the fascist Elon Musk.

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 11>I'm old enough to see fascism the first time around.

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 11>Now it's coming back. Eon Musk, theirs man in the world,

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:18.919
<v Speaker 11>is using his immense power to support the far right

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:23.439
<v Speaker 11>in Europe. I've got this message from mister Musk. We've

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:27.720
<v Speaker 11>crushed fascism before and we'll crush it again.

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:33.240
<v Speaker 3>So there he goes over the Tesla. I got to say, Caleb,

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 3>and this, I reckon. This is actually a great advertisement

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:39.879
<v Speaker 3>for the Tesla because it doesn't come off that having

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:41.919
<v Speaker 3>been run over by a tank. It's just turned into

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:45.879
<v Speaker 3>a convertible. But it survives pretty well. But get this

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 3>old guy. I mean, he's worried about the fascist elon

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 3>Musk when he himself is living in a country where

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:54.920
<v Speaker 3>you'll get arrested for silent prayer outside an abortion clinic.

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:55.720
<v Speaker 2>Give me a break.

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, look, you know that's kind of taking

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:00.600
<v Speaker 4>trump to arrangement syndrome to another level, isn't it. When

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 4>you decide to fire up the tank and drive over

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 4>a Tesla vehgle one less electric vehicle in the world,

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:07.440
<v Speaker 4>probably isn't a bad thing.

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 1>So I might give him his dues.

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:14.640
<v Speaker 3>We've got a dirty diesel tank running and he aspects

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 3>us to think he's moral.

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:17.399
<v Speaker 4>But on the other hand, I do have to say,

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 4>if you were ninety eight years old and as healthy

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:22.919
<v Speaker 4>looking and as sharp as he is, and you got

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 4>to drive around in a tank and destroy stuff, I'd

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Speaker 4>be doing it all day long, whether it had political

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:29.319
<v Speaker 4>motivations or not.

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.560
<v Speaker 1>I aspire to be like Ken Turner when I'm ninety eight.

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 2>I have to say, Liz, what do you think of it?

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 5>Well, there were rumors that this was a paid actor

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:41.440
<v Speaker 5>and that Ken Turner was a war veteran that actually

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 5>died in twenty twenty, and there was posts used to

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 5>prove this by the association that he used to be

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:53.959
<v Speaker 5>part of. And certainly if that's true, it just goes

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 5>to show there's nothing there's no low the looney left

0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 5>won't stoop to.

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 6>I mean, if that's true, true, that.

0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 5>You're actually piggybacking off a legitimate war veterans legacy for

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:08.239
<v Speaker 5>cheap political theater like this, that's just beyond disgusting.

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 2>All Right, we're going to go to a break.

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 3>When we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow,

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:16.279
<v Speaker 3>including increasing numbers of Australians traveling overseas so they can

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:19.400
<v Speaker 3>select the gender of their baby, that and more in

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 3>just a moment, welcome back. Let's take a look at

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 3>what's making headlines tomorrow. We'll start with an interesting story

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 3>on the front page of the Adelaide Advertiser. The headline reads,

0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 3>I picked a girl. Caitlin Bailey, she's a single mum

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 3>with three kids now having a fourth, traveled to the

0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:49.919
<v Speaker 3>US to select the gender of her baby. Spent forty

0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 3>five thousand dollars to do so. This, of course is

0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 3>banned in Australia. But she wanted two boys and two girls,

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:02.279
<v Speaker 3>so that's the pathway she's taken. And apparently, according to

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 3>the papers, this is an increasing practice amongst Australians who,

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 3>as I said, it's illegal to do it here, so

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 3>they're going overseas, for instance, to the United States, where

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:14.360
<v Speaker 3>you're allowed to do it. There's good reasons why this

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 3>is banned in Australia. You don't want to upset the

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:22.359
<v Speaker 3>balance of sexes. That's an obvious one. But more importantly,

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.359
<v Speaker 3>you're commodifying children, aren't you. You're turning them into an

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 3>accessory or you know, a designer child. And what happens

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:34.400
<v Speaker 3>in the event that the IVF process doesn't go as promised,

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:36.440
<v Speaker 3>and you know what, you ordered a boy and you

0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:37.240
<v Speaker 3>get a girl.

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 2>What happens, then.

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:44.320
<v Speaker 5>Sex selection is just completely morally bankrupt. I don't buy into.

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:44.759
<v Speaker 6>It at all.

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 5>I'm surprised that the States haven't outlawed this as well.

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 6>For obvious reasons.

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 5>What happened to I'm just happy as long as the

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:57.400
<v Speaker 5>baby's healthy, and you know, you leave that up to God,

0:38:57.520 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 5>or if you don't believe in God, you leave that

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 5>up to fate.

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:02.279
<v Speaker 6>It's God regardless.

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I just find this very very distasteful for

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 5>obvious reasons.

0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 1>It's just and biologically bad. It's obvious why this is bad.

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Just look at China, I mean, and it's not by

0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:17.840
<v Speaker 1>process survivor if that they'd be.

0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:21.839
<v Speaker 4>But for decades, particularly when they had the one child policy,

0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 4>everyone wanted a boy, and.

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 1>So you had sex selective abortion.

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:27.359
<v Speaker 4>If you knew we're having a girl, that'd get rid

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:29.759
<v Speaker 4>of it, and baby girls would be dumped in the

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:31.799
<v Speaker 4>street because parents didn't want them.

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 1>They wanted to have a boy.

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:34.799
<v Speaker 4>And now that's all good and well when you're a

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:36.279
<v Speaker 4>parent saying, well, I'm going to have the boy because

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 4>the boy earned a bit of income and all this

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 4>sort of stuff, But then what happens when you've got

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 4>seventy percent boys, thirty percent women.

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:45.360
<v Speaker 6>It hadn't been able to find anyone to marry.

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:48.680
<v Speaker 4>It just stuffs up the whole equilibrium of the world.

0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:51.960
<v Speaker 4>You're getting into very dangerous territory when you start allowing

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:53.959
<v Speaker 4>this kind of stuff, as you say, is I can't

0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 4>believe that the US does allowed. Maybe that's one thing

0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 4>instead of, you know, taking jets from guitar. Donald Trump

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:01.600
<v Speaker 4>should take a look at that one. On the front

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:04.800
<v Speaker 4>of the Olds tomorrow, he says, narrow path gives libs

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 4>little Lee.

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Way Boom boom.

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:10.319
<v Speaker 4>Susan Lee is confident of pipping Angus Taylor by a

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 4>couple of votes quote unquote in a tight leadership contest

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 4>to Pete replace sorry Peter Dutton as opposition leader. As

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:20.319
<v Speaker 4>the combatants made last efforts to swing a rump of

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 4>undecided Liberal MPs to their camp. Senior Liberal sources set

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 4>a close victory for the acting opposition leader on Tuesday

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 4>could trigger a shaky early tenure for Miss Lee, who

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:35.719
<v Speaker 4>could need to bring warring moderates and conservatives together. And

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:38.359
<v Speaker 4>of course, we learn tonight that we may well see

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 4>Tim Wilson throw his hat in the ring tomorrow, which

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 4>could spice things up a little bit. I don't think

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:48.360
<v Speaker 4>it particularly matters at this point who Cliff is the leadership.

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:50.960
<v Speaker 1>They ain't going to be the next prime minister, so

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:53.320
<v Speaker 1>whoever you are, your the seat warmer.

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 3>Essentially, I would have thought a close vote is the

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 3>worst result, right, because as The Australian points out tomorrow,

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.840
<v Speaker 3>it's going be very difficult if you don't have clear

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 3>and overwhelming support to bring everybody together. And then in

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:09.840
<v Speaker 3>addition to that, you've got the Nationals who are leaving

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 3>open the possibility after their meeting this morning that they

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 3>may dump net zero. So if the Liberal Party were

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:18.480
<v Speaker 3>committed to net zero and the National Party were not,

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 3>that's another problem that whoever leads the Liberal Party is

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 3>going to need to deal with trying to keep their

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:27.000
<v Speaker 3>own party together and trying to keep the coalition together.

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:30.319
<v Speaker 5>Indeed, like you say, though, Caleb, I don't think it

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 5>really matters whoever takes this poisoned chalice. He's going to

0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 5>spend at least two terms in opposition, and to be honest,

0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:40.280
<v Speaker 5>I don't think it really matters.

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 6>We all know who the strong players are in the.

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:45.880
<v Speaker 5>Opposition, most of us Grace the Sky News, most of

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 5>them rather Grace the sky News screens every week. Those

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 5>are the strong contenders for future government.

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 6>But right now you just need a pincushion, as a

0:41:58.080 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 6>lot of people call it.

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 5>You just need someone who's going to stick it out

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:04.799
<v Speaker 5>in opposition. Whoever gets this is never going to be

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:05.400
<v Speaker 5>Prime minister.

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:07.920
<v Speaker 4>And it doesn't matter from that perspective in terms of

0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:10.040
<v Speaker 4>who would be the next prime minister. But it probably

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:12.439
<v Speaker 4>does matter to some degree in terms of how many

0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:14.799
<v Speaker 4>seats you can claw back at the next election to

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 4>set you up for what you want to do in

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 4>six years time. And your two options essentially are a

0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:23.480
<v Speaker 4>woman who added an extra s into her surname because

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:25.840
<v Speaker 4>humerology told her to do so because she thought it

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:30.240
<v Speaker 4>would change her personality, and the bloke who was shadow

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:33.399
<v Speaker 4>Treasurer who ran around saying that you know, we won't

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 4>back in the labor tax cut.

0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like they are the two best options we've got.

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:40.400
<v Speaker 3>Choby, what's crazier adding a consonant to your name to

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 3>change your personality or believing that if we all stop

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:45.760
<v Speaker 3>using fossil fuels will change the temperature of the planet.

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 2>She's not as crazy as some.

0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a very good point.

0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 4>Now, the story on the front of the olds tomorrow,

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 4>US China pullback from reciprocal tariff's war. China hailed on

0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 4>Monday substantial progress with the US after talks in Geneva

0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:01.840
<v Speaker 4>on dialing down their trade will yielded dramatic cuts to

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 4>import tariffs. Donald Trump had imposed duties of one hundred

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 4>and forty five percent on imports from China last month

0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:10.279
<v Speaker 4>as part of a global tariff blitz weill. Beijing hit

0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:13.080
<v Speaker 4>Washington with the retaliatory duties of one hundred and twenty

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:15.319
<v Speaker 4>five percent, as well as the blanket levies. China has

0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:18.800
<v Speaker 4>also been hit with sector specific tariffs, et cetera, et cetera.

0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:21.840
<v Speaker 4>But we hear now that the US tariffs will fall

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:25.360
<v Speaker 4>to thirty percent and the Chinese to ten percent.

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:27.759
<v Speaker 1>So finally we get a little bit of movement here.

0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:31.360
<v Speaker 1>And look, you know, Trump always plays the long game

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 1>on these things.

0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 4>You know, everyone got upset about the stock market, but

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 4>the stock market's gone back to exactly where it was

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:40.760
<v Speaker 4>before all of this happened. He always wants something in return,

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:42.719
<v Speaker 4>and he's slowly working his way towards it.

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 3>And they've got to do something about China otherwise America

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:47.880
<v Speaker 3>will no longer be the superpower of the world.

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 2>And for everyone who.

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 3>Hates America, what would you prefer China ruling the world.

0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:56.480
<v Speaker 3>So Trump's got to address the imbalance with China, and.

0:43:56.440 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 5>He's doing it absolutely and hey, it works there remotely.

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:01.240
<v Speaker 6>Friends.

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:03.839
<v Speaker 5>Again to the front page of The Herald Sun, now

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:09.520
<v Speaker 5>Alan's big cell. The splash reads exclusive premiere steps up

0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 5>blitz on crime with jail beds, boost seven hundred and

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:18.759
<v Speaker 5>twenty extra guards and tougher sentences for attacks on prison staff.

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 5>The article reads, almost one hundred new beds will be

0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:26.360
<v Speaker 5>opened in children's prisons and three hundred fast tracked for

0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 5>adult jails under a seven hundred million dollar expansion of

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:35.359
<v Speaker 5>the state's corrections system prompted by the Allen government's tough

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:36.360
<v Speaker 5>new bail laws.

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 6>The package will also.

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 5>Fund and estimated seven hundred and twenty new jobs. Wasn't

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:44.760
<v Speaker 5>it just last month we were talking about the prisons

0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 5>that would never open in Victoria because they were infested

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:51.920
<v Speaker 5>with more and they too cost hundreds of millions of dollars,

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 5>and they're just sitting there, absolutely useless, never to be opened,

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:58.719
<v Speaker 5>and we haven't heard anything further regarding that.

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:00.720
<v Speaker 4>I think I was something like four hundred old beds

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:02.600
<v Speaker 4>and they were going to have to redo the whole

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 4>thing because the bill just got infested with lock. You know,

0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:08.839
<v Speaker 4>good on them for saying I will build some more,

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 4>but you already had them there. For heaven's sake, you

0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 4>just got a dodgy job done last.

0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 3>And don't forget Former Police Commissioner Shane Patten got on

0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 3>the wrong side of Justinto Allen when he suggested bail

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:23.239
<v Speaker 3>law should be tightened and she said, well, we can't

0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:25.720
<v Speaker 3>do that because we don't have enough money to house

0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:28.520
<v Speaker 3>the extra people that would be incarcerated if we tightened

0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:31.600
<v Speaker 3>bail laws. Well, it turns out Shane Patten was right.

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:34.520
<v Speaker 3>They've suddenly found the money and they're doing something about it.

0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:37.239
<v Speaker 3>Let's go to the Career Male. Interesting story on the

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:41.160
<v Speaker 3>front page there for Queenslanders toll story Bridge push reads

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:45.080
<v Speaker 3>the headline repairs needed on bridge. It has just twenty

0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 3>years left. Queensland's iconic story bridge is disintegrating so badly

0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 3>it could soon be turned back into a toll bridge

0:45:53.160 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 3>for the first time since nineteen forty seven. Or Brisbane

0:45:57.040 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 3>ratepayers maybe slugged a special levy to pay for repairs.

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:03.719
<v Speaker 3>According to a new report. The bridge is eighty five

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:07.560
<v Speaker 3>years old. Over the past five years, they've spent eighty

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:10.280
<v Speaker 3>million dollars over the last five years.

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 2>Repairing the bridge. It's riddled with rust.

0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 3>Now they're asking the federal government to stump up four

0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:18.360
<v Speaker 3>and a half million dollars, not to repair the bridge,

0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:21.279
<v Speaker 3>but to put together a business case as to how

0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:23.920
<v Speaker 3>they might be able to raise the money needed to

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:27.640
<v Speaker 3>keep this bridge operational. It's kind of unbelievable that they

0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:30.360
<v Speaker 3>would get themselves into a situation where they have so

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:35.480
<v Speaker 3>little time, needs so much money, and considering tolling Queenslanders

0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:37.239
<v Speaker 3>to use the bridge. As I said, hasn't been a

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 3>toll bridge since nineteen forty seven.

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:40.759
<v Speaker 2>When you go to a.

0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:43.759
<v Speaker 3>Break, when we come back, a school teacher is compensated

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:47.360
<v Speaker 3>after being sacked for having a untidy desk.

0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 2>That's coming up in just a moment. All right, welcome

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 2>back to the program, Liz. I've got a question for you.

0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:55.840
<v Speaker 3>A clean freak or you're a messy kind of perpose.

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:59.720
<v Speaker 5>I'm messy, but it's organized chaos. So on that front,

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:04.040
<v Speaker 5>I am with mister Murphy who has lost his plea

0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 5>against dismissal. He tried to challenge it, but the Fair

0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:11.120
<v Speaker 5>Work Commissioners said that while his firing from one of

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 5>Melbourne's leading Catholic schools was harsh, it was not unreasonable

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 5>and in fairness to the school, it wasn't just his

0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 5>messy desk. It was his failure to provide timely feedback

0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:30.239
<v Speaker 5>to students, poor dealings with colleagues, and his untidy desk.

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:31.759
<v Speaker 6>So it must have been pretty.

0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 5>Bad to actually get a mention in their case against

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:35.840
<v Speaker 5>this teacher.

0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:39.160
<v Speaker 4>Like but still, you know you're drawing up we want

0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:41.160
<v Speaker 4>to manage this dude out of the joint whatever we're

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:44.200
<v Speaker 4>going to get rid of him, Like who actually goes yes, Well,

0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:46.839
<v Speaker 4>write down the untidy desk and give that to him

0:47:46.880 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 4>on his dismissal slip. Like as I said before, if

0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 4>that's grounds for dismissal, I don't know how I still have.

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Is it all connected? What's that old expression untidy desk?

0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Untidy mind?

0:47:57.120 --> 0:48:00.480
<v Speaker 6>No, but it's like the man killed a man.

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:03.600
<v Speaker 4>Scientists who you know solved the problems of the world,

0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:07.680
<v Speaker 4>they all have untidy discs because their lives are just crazy, right,

0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:09.800
<v Speaker 4>That's how they have the creativity in the and the

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:11.680
<v Speaker 4>lateral thinking to come up with these.

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:15.400
<v Speaker 5>And this fellow was teaching Latin religious education, Italian and

0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:16.600
<v Speaker 5>classic Greek.

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:19.879
<v Speaker 6>You don't exchange someone to Aliba. I don't have a

0:48:19.880 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 6>tidy here's.

0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:23.879
<v Speaker 4>An absolute BRAINI act. I think he's been had done

0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:27.400
<v Speaker 4>by fourteen grand. Is no compensation for being sacked for

0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:29.719
<v Speaker 4>an antidy disk as far as I'm concerned, I'll tell

0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:32.080
<v Speaker 4>you what. One bloke who won't be getting any compoent

0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:35.719
<v Speaker 4>Radley so dumb criminal of the day. He may well

0:48:35.800 --> 0:48:38.960
<v Speaker 4>be the dumb criminal of the year. At ten past

0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:42.920
<v Speaker 4>twelve this morning in Collingwood in Melbourne, a guy decided

0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:44.000
<v Speaker 4>to break into.

0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:47.480
<v Speaker 1>The cop shop in Collingwood. No, I'm not joking.

0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:50.720
<v Speaker 4>He started with a cop car and then he broke

0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:53.600
<v Speaker 4>a window to get into the cop shop. And of

0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:55.480
<v Speaker 4>course the copper's got the call and said.

0:48:55.280 --> 0:48:57.800
<v Speaker 1>You've got to go to a break in. Where is it?

0:48:57.800 --> 0:48:59.200
<v Speaker 1>It's at your police station.

0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:02.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean, how dumb do you have to be to

0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:04.400
<v Speaker 4>break into a police station.

0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:07.040
<v Speaker 1>If there is one place where.

0:49:06.800 --> 0:49:10.160
<v Speaker 4>You are likely to get caught for committing the crime

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:14.520
<v Speaker 4>of breaking enter, I dare say it's a police station.

0:49:14.760 --> 0:49:18.360
<v Speaker 3>Would He just wanted to be with his fellow Collingwood

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:18.799
<v Speaker 3>football so.

0:49:22.120 --> 0:49:23.719
<v Speaker 1>He wants to be in the prison bar.

0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:26.719
<v Speaker 2>We gotta go. That's it from us stick Around. Coming

0:49:26.760 --> 0:49:28.480
<v Speaker 2>up is The Reader Peddy Show. Good Night,