WEBVTT - #94 | Laurie Daley | Selection Calls, Origin Reflection & Will to Win! 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.400 Matthew, We've got a very special guest one today. They've 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:05.040 been a little into for here. Laurie Daily, great man, 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:09.600 great human, but single handedly led New South Welles to 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:12.080 what I think is one of the great bouncebacks of 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:12.680 all time. 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:17.279 Incredible. No one gave him a chance after Game two 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:22.560 and massive underdogs. They said that Queensland can't possibly lose 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:24.119 this game. Guess what happened. 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:28.400 They lost it. They lost it well and the outside 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:30.240 noise we're going to ask him about, you know, the 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:33.400 people hammering the leaders in that Nisul side, but particularly 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.080 Laurie saying he couldn't coach. They were going after him 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:38.360 quite a bit and he showed them well. 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:41.280 I mean, Laurie is such a fantastic guy, a great guy, 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:44.080 love by everyone. And the fact that the media went 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:46.479 so hard and people just went so hard on Lourie 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:49.519 it actually solidified the team and I think the cash 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:51.720 crow mangst the team pretty much, even though it might 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:55.279 have been unspoken, was we're doing this for Lorry and 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:57.440 so the very fact that the side did that for him, 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:00.680 it's something he must be incredibly proud about. 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:03.080 Well, thanks to our friends at Barrocco, Let's let's have 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:06.399 chat about some of the other best footy BB bounce backs. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:08.000 Have you got one that comes to mind? 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:10.639 Mind is not a fun one. It was two thousand 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:13.440 and grand five to qualify. We're playing the Roosters anyway, 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:15.400 we were actually starting the game with a real b 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.839 B bounce. In fact, halftime we're leading them sixteen nil. 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:23.440 But unfortunately, as we're walking up the tunneled halftime brother Andrew, 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.440 Uncle Joey turned to Luke Riggets from the Rooster side 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:30.000 and said, what he is doing to mad Monday tomorrow. Unfortunately, 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.600 that gave the Roosters the B B bounce and they 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:36.160 came out the second half and actually BB bounces out 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:36.839 of the competition. 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.240 And then didn't you BB bounce to the Super League 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:40.639 the next. 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:42.360 Year BB bounced to the Super League? 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:47.640 I did, and then they won the camp and they 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:51.960 did bounce. I got a I'll get you with an 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:56.160 inspirational one. Billy Slater, he everyone knows. I think he had. 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:57.720 He had two years out of the game with one 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:01.440 of the worst shoulder injuries that the game had ever seen. 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.600 People were questioning whether he'd even come back could play again. 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.840 Cameron Munster was killing it in the fullback position really 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:11.040 cemented his spot in the NRL, and not only did 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:13.519 he come back but hit the ground running Billy Slater. 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:16.320 That year he came back twenty seventeen, he won everything. 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:19.040 He won State of Origin, the Premiership, he won Wally 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:22.280 Lewis Medal, he won the Clive Churchill Medal, and then 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:23.959 represent Australia at the end of the year. 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:27.840 One of the most amazing seasons ever. I saw him 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.800 twenty sixteen the end of that year, twenty sixteen Melbourne Cup, 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:33.920 and he looked really down in the mouth, unlike Billy, 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:35.440 and I said, hey, Bill, you know how you doing 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.120 and he goes, Maddie, I sort of think my career 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:40.480 might be over. That's how he was feeling at the 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:45.520 end of twenty sixteen. So twenty seventeen almost an unprecedented 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:48.200 success for an individual. He certainly had the BB bounce. 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:52.040 That was footy's best BB bounce backs thanks to Baroka 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:55.600 gives you back your BB Bounce. Now over to Laurie Daily. 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.400 Let's get into the podcast. Sorry, I know you do 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:00.600 big sports, breakfast hard. 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:06.160 It's just hard to know where to start. I woke 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:11.440 up and read the news about you're dying. That's a 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:12.040 tough one. 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:16.280 It is. Can you just take my pulse through this? 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.680 Haven't looked at some of those pulsating veins. It's like 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:21.720 your blood blood pressure might be a bit of a worry. 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:24.320 Yeah, can you. 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:27.359 Can we just run past you? Are you enduring a 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:29.440 serious health scare? 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:33.959 Yes? I am, yep, but I can't talk. 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:43.240 About to the bottom of it. Does it rhyme with ranser? 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:45.880 Is it. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:49.960 Is anywhere? Is anyone past their fifties not having a 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:50.440 health scare? 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:51.000 Though? Yeah? 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:55.600 Look very funny. It's not very funny. But no, I 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.920 can guarantee you. I am as healthy as I've ever been. 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:01.000 A little off color. 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.920 I've just discovered myself that fat down. 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.400 Clothes don't fit me anymore. Lost a bit of weight, 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:15.480 but you have laws. 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.480 It's funny when when people lose weight, generally people do 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.800 they go, oh, I'm living fantastic, and then behind your back. 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:28.000 Well, I lost twenty kgs twenty kg so I was 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:29.000 one hundred kilo. 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:33.680 I remember weighing myself on the Easter Monday. 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:34.200 Where is that? 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.240 So this is from game one to game three? 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:36.839 Lost? 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:40.000 My year is this year? In this amount of time? 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:43.640 So Easter Sunday, Easter Monday through to I got down 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:49.440 to eighty during Origin three a halftime. 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:52.800 Half time, then going to. 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:58.479 At the end of game to actually so yeah, I 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.440 got down eighty and then I've slowly started to put 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.680 on a bit more way time up around eighty three now. 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:07.600 But yeah, I just, you know, obviously wanted to lose 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.000 a bit of weight. It's funny, isn't it. Like as 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:12.200 you get a bit older, you walk past the mirror 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.440 and you look at yourself and you're not looking too bad, 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.559 and then your kid yourself cause you're or your guts 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:21.440 in a bit and you're passing through the iron. 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:22.599 I'm too bad. 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:24.720 I'll do that with that, and I also do it 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:28.200 with the hairline. I looking all the ship. I can't 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.000 believe they're saying popping. 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:33.279 That's another thing. I haven't got plugs either. 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:36.240 They go with you as well for hairplops. 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.839 Hair plugs, I think you might have started up there. 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:44.039 Hair plugs. 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.520 They don't die my hair. But it is funny once 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:48.640 you start to lose a bit of weight. Yeah, you're 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:51.560 right there either go you're good, and then behind your. 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:52.880 Back something with it. 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.440 It's not looking it looks stressed. 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.440 It with a big fat heaps, so they go make 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:58.320 you look fantastic. 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.039 They I'll tell you this. One day I went out. 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:04.120 I must have been Mother's Day. I went out and 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:07.719 I wasn't drinking. We've been off the drink for three 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:12.120 four months. And anyhow, we went to lunch and then 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:15.120 we go to this pub after it, and there's my 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:20.560 family and friends of ours, and anyhow, they're drinking over lunch, 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:21.800 and then we go to the pub and as you 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:24.400 what happens, they tend to get a bit more Libya. 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:25.640 Yeah, when they've had. 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.520 A few and I wasn't drinking and I wanted to 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:29.640 go home, and she goes to me. 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:34.839 She turns around and says jesual boring worries. 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.680 But then I knew because I said I didn't really 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.520 comment back, you know, so I knew. I got to 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:42.480 her and she goes, yeah, and look at you, a 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.440 little skinny over there, but it doesn't make your nose. 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:50.080 So it was getting. 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:54.000 That she had to go to that level. 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.040 I had three months off a couple of years ago. 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.240 It was just horrible, and I just didn't want to 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:02.359 go anywhere. And is like, mate, Matt, you don't you 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:04.560 need to understand that you don't need to drink to 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.560 have a good time. I said, well, you don't need 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:10.440 shoes to run, but fuck me, at helps it is hard. 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.120 There's nothing harder than going out and being sober when 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:13.960 everyone else is blind. 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:15.240 I don't know how they do it. I don't know 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.160 how blokes drive for their mates. 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:22.440 Oh well that's well, that's because Brandon drunk. They're not sober. 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.640 Those Brandon Smith's now sober and he'll come out with 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:27.960 us still, But like, just be so And I said 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:29.400 to him, said, I don't know how you do it 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:31.440 like and he's because you're also trying to fight the 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:33.560 urge to have a beer. But if you wanted to 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:35.960 be sober. But he loves it, and he's got the 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:38.480 personality that can do it. But I think you've got 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:40.200 to be a special kind of personality to do it. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.040 Because it had just pissed me off. 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.880 So well, when I was off it, I didn't go out. 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.760 I just stayed at Heart because I didn't want to mix, 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:50.040 because I knew that i'd break. I also found the 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.600 longer I went, the better I got it. 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.400 Not having one or feeling like one. Yeah, I'll tell 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:56.160 you what I made up for it. 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:59.680 When I, oh, mate, when I when I got off 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:03.320 at Low seventy five days it actually not by design 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:07.040 or anything, was first aid of Magic Ground. And I 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:13.040 remember running into Cooper. You guys arrived at the hotel 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:15.160 and and I thought I was okay, and I was 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.760 talking to jak VOI is Cooper here? And I just 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:19.760 see him sort of looking at me. 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:22.400 Is that when I was playing? Yeah, you're playing the 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.280 next day or something and you come to the team hotel. 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:26.920 Yeah, he was just he was just loitering in the foyer. 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:30.600 Know, if it was anyone else, lucky they knew who 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:34.480 Dad was. Otherwise they just kicked him out. Pervert lourding around, 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:38.240 which I am. Which are Hey, we were just talking 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.800 about it. I feel like we you know, enough times 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.080 past now we can probably bring it up. How's how's 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:44.040 Ricky Stewart going. 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:46.160 Ricky's young? Will he gives you his regards? 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.319 Yeah, Tolim's coming on the pro group obviously you two 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:50.320 buttered heads. 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:51.679 Yeah. 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.559 I don't know anyone who's ever a class with Ricky. 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.559 Well we've never said this, but you know, for those 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.240 people that don't know the incident, you rehash your memory. 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.200 I took an inflatable baseball but on the red carpet 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:06.600 over in Vegas after the Hudson Young Morgan Smithy's elevator 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:09.360 incident where they weren't fighting, they just happened to be 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:12.240 having a bit of a push and shove and Ricky 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.400 didn't like it. Ricky didn't like it at all. Took 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.280 quite offense to me having an inflatable baseball blot out there. 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:20.480 But the next day, actually I saw you at a 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:24.520 Legiance Stadium and you told me. You said, what did 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:25.000 you say to me? 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:27.720 I said, do I say one of the few people 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.320 that Ricky had to regret about doing something? 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:30.880 Yeah? 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:32.520 You said? You said? 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:36.679 It was something like he really really regrets having a 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.800 digg yet and he's going to I was talking having 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:41.559 a coffee with him this morning. He's going to reach 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:43.719 out and Ringer. It's two and a half years later, 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:45.280 still isn't. 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:45.960 Well. 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:47.240 I'll tell you what you are. 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.959 You are one of the better ones, because yusually he 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.240 wouldn't try and reach out or say anything like that. 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:55.600 Really, Oh yeah, mate, so you have done really well. 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:57.640 You have done really he read me one day because 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.320 we're talking on that on the Sunday night, show, and 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:04.480 we're talking about different players or players or coaches who 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:06.880 have been players. And someone asked me about Ricky and 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:08.920 because the Ricky the nature of him being a case 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:10.960 for so long, people forget what he's like as a player. 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.240 And I said to people like and I said on 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.640 the show, I said, a kid, you're not of all 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.720 the blokes I ever played against, I said, for me, like, 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.080 I thought he was the best way he controlled all 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.880 you blokes. I said, he was just phenomenal anyway, ring 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.320 me at a miscall for him the next day, and 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:27.920 I thought, okay, now. 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:31.040 Remember what you said in the throwaway comment on the 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:32.480 air when you said you said, you know, he's one 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.199 of the best players you know, I've ever played against. 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:36.880 Even if he hates me, young fellows. 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:42.640 Him and I said, still he goes mate. Maddie Kayley, 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:47.400 who's his wife, she said that you said a couple 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:50.160 of nice things about me on the show last I said, yeah, 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.079 I did, Ricky, and he has mate much appreciated. I said, yeah, mate, 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:56.480 well I wouldn't he goes And and you also said 0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:00.560 that you know, hopefully you know, even though you hate me, Blake, mate, 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:05.240 I don't hate you. And so I love to catch 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.600 up with these sometimes and have a yard to him. 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:09.439 You know, it was just it was just about respect, 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:14.160 I said, Ricky, honestly, I haven't haven't thought about it. 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:14.880 He does not. 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:17.000 We're still joking about it to you. 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.880 He's he's so good like as you quite right. He 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:22.640 said that he. 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.280 Was the guy that kept our team sort of together 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:29.480 and made it function. But he was highly competitive, and 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:31.520 I was lucky I didn't play against him, but I 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.120 used to stand back and admire some of. 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:35.680 The things that he would say during a game to 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:37.559 the position players because it was brutal. 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.200 It was ruthless, and I just don't know whether it 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:43.240 was off the cuff or whether he thought about it 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:44.160 before the game play. 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.280 He was as good as what you've ever seen. 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.400 We do just have to mention as well, we're currently 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.360 doing a renovation and that the floorboards being done upstairs, 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.240 so if people hear some hammering going on. 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:57.920 It's this time. It's not Dad masterba microphone. 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.000 It's not true Shoup there with our next door name 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.480 a Marty Okay or Ricky I don't know FREGGI. 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.680 Yet or the inflatable baseball. 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:08.560 Just before we move on to a bit of origin 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.920 and stuff quite seriously because we took the piss out 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:13.320 of the health scare stuff. Do you have any idea 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.400 of where that article come from or is that literally 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.960 just come that took you surprise? Even the health Scared article. 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:22.120 Well, I think at the start when I had to 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.160 lose weight because I was overweight, so I just had 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.000 to do it because they said you're getting too big 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:26.480 as well. 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:30.160 So that's where it sort of started to bubble along. 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:34.840 And I had a few little things that that not 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:35.880 a major concern, but. 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.520 You're just yeah, yeah, blood. 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.760 Pressures things as you do when you get older. So 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.200 that's that was it. But then yeah, I don't know 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:49.880 where this one came out of the blue. While wasn't yeah, 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:53.000 doing what I was doing, and I'm considering standing down 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:53.439 because of. 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.599 Her health scare. That is not even close. 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.320 To the family get scared, Like did did family members 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:01.440 come out of wood work thinking you're going to well, yeah. 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.760 Let my fami was just going pink pink from from mates. 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.040 One of the mat colly and told me I had 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:09.800 him twenty third. 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:13.320 I was his laugh. 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:21.040 Yeah, I mean it's it's it's unbelievable that cholesterol thing, 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:22.520 as you said, as you get older, do you have 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:23.640 do you have high cholesterol? 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:27.719 Not normally? Yeah, not not normally, but yeah. All the 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.280 markers are the indicators that you need to look out for. 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:32.320 You've got to be careful with. 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:34.800 I went got to I went out to test bloke 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:38.640 tod Like. I was at dinner one night. There was 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:42.040 a bloke and he's just talking to me. He goes, Maddie. 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:44.560 He wouldn't believe it. He goes unfit as anything, and 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.120 he said and made. I went in for cholesterol test 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.160 and Mate, suddenly they found it was almost shut. 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:49.360 Made. 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:57.240 If it's a new way doing it, John is John hop. 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.360 Anyway, he said made. If it was not week, I 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:02.600 could have died. Anyway, I'm looking at him and I'm 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.079 just going I've packed a bit of timber on. 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:05.440 Fuck. 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.240 The next day, I'm driving the car with Trish. Literally 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.080 I had a pank attack and so is true a 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:14.719 heart attack. I went and got a test and a 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:16.920 specialist scales. Now you're not in the high you're not 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:18.199 in a high risk. You know, we had to look 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.520 at the motions of your heart's pretty good. I'm still 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.880 not sure. Anyway, I went got a cholesterol test. It 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:26.880 was pretty high, and I ring him and said, you know, dog, 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:28.480 I'm just ringing now. I went and got a cholesterol. 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:30.960 I made that again. Maddie your paranoid. He said, what's 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.000 your what's your levels? I went eight point three? Went, 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.200 holy fuck, get in here. 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:39.400 Eight point three. That is that's that is serious? Really? 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:42.640 Yeah, it was so. 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:50.000 Larry, I'm putting poison in his coffee. Have a look 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:50.200 on me. 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:51.160 And Jacker inherited. 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:56.000 Hey, look we had in this studio pre renovation a 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:56.480 year ago. 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:58.120 I think twenty started twenty twenty five. 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.440 When you first got the state of Orage in job, 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:04.200 we're talking about, you know, expectations, things you'd learned from 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.000 the first series. Now that you've you've had a couple 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.680 of years in the job, how how was it like 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.640 reflecting back? Was it everything you expected? Or was it 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:13.520 so much more? 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:17.280 So much more? I think the media focus around Origin is. 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:21.000 Massive, and because of there's so many different sort of 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.600 levels and platforms of broadcasting. 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:28.640 Now everyone has an opinion. Everyone is passionate about. 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:32.720 Origin, and it drives so much content that everyone can't 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:36.360 get enough of it. So yeah, so it's one of 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:39.840 those things that you get yourself in for you probably 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.000 didn't realize when I got back into it how big 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:45.000 it was and how big it became. Always new Origin 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:48.000 was the number one program, number one item, ticket item 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.280 for rugby league, But until I got back involved, I 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:54.440 didn't realize that again. But then you know, all the focus, 0:15:54.600 --> 0:16:00.560 the attention, every decision that you make is scrutinized. But 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.000 it was a great learning experience from when I first 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.720 started to when I ended, because I reckon, I learned 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:09.680 a lot of things along the way. 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:15.760 The biggest learning for me was you just got to 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:16.560 trust your gut. 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:21.440 Sometimes sometimes you can second guess yourself, but I reckon, 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:25.360 when when it marries up inside and it marries up 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.000 up here, go with it. 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:32.600 People talk about that as you get older, they say, intuition, 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.640 it's more important than information. A lot of times, you know, 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.760 all rolled up in your subconscious lows. I think we 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.120 always talk about State of Origin getting bigger year by 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.200 year by year, and I think probably the best way 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.240 we can gauge that to a certain extent, apart from 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:49.000 TV ratings, is the pressure it exersts on the coaches. 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:53.160 How different LORII was the pressure, say this year, to 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.680 when you coached way way back in around twenty fourteen, 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:57.320 and that how different. 0:16:57.600 --> 0:16:59.480 You've felt every decision. 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.920 Right from the get go, so right from selections, right 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:08.960 from training sessions, right from team meetings, right from game 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:12.840 It's just everything that you did was analyzed. That's how 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:16.919 it feels when you're inside the bubble, and that's why 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.679 people can't get enough of it, because that's what people 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.359 talk about and that's what drives the conversation for people 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:26.679 to go and watch and listen and want to be 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:31.000 a part of State of Origin. So I didn't sort 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:33.760 of realize that, but as I went through over the 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:35.679 last two years, I've come to understand it. 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:38.840 Everything you do is scrutinized. 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:40.520 And you've got to make sure that you're getting more 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.720 decisions right than what you get wrong. You're not always 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:48.000 going to make right decisions, but what you do, you 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.760 make decisions based on what you think is in the 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:51.960 best interest of the group. 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:55.360 How hard is that to, like, I suppose, because there's 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:59.359 like you said, there's podcasting, there's Channel nine, Fox League. 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.040 Everyone's got to opinion on your decisions, and there are 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.920 so many different opinions coming. You know, this person needs 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:07.840 to start, he needs to pick this person. How hard 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:09.880 is it to block out all of that and just 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:13.120 narrow your focus into what you actually believe and letting 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.479 other people's opinions sort of take it. 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:18.359 Well, it's funny, Coops, because there's a lot of people 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:21.399 obviously have an opinion, and there are some people that 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.679 you respect as judges and some people that you respect 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:27.840 what they have to say, so you'd be silly not 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:32.879 to take that on board. Then there's other people that 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:35.800 have comments around the game that you may not know 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:39.600 or you may not agree with what they're saying, so 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.240 you put that to the side and you're blocking out 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:45.520 what they're talking about. But you know, there'd be pieces 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:49.800 of gold from everyone any particular people that have been 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.840 on that stage, people that have been at that level, 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:57.720 So you'd be mad not to sort of hear what 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.680 they've got to say. Not that you have to agree 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:03.520 with it all the time, but there are things that 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:06.200 people say that you are Yep, you're right because you're 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:09.320 on you know, and and it's not about admitting you're 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:13.159 right or wrong, but it's about learning and when you 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:17.040 learn and when you're responsible for leading New South Wales. 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:20.919