Speaker 1: Matthew, We've got a very special guest one today. They've
Speaker 1: been a little into for here. Laurie Daily, great man,
Speaker 1: great human, but single handedly led New South Welles to
Speaker 1: what I think is one of the great bouncebacks of
Speaker 1: all time.
Speaker 2: Incredible. No one gave him a chance after Game two
Speaker 2: and massive underdogs. They said that Queensland can't possibly lose
Speaker 2: this game. Guess what happened.
Speaker 1: They lost it. They lost it well and the outside
Speaker 1: noise we're going to ask him about, you know, the
Speaker 1: people hammering the leaders in that Nisul side, but particularly
Speaker 1: Laurie saying he couldn't coach. They were going after him
Speaker 1: quite a bit and he showed them well.
Speaker 2: I mean, Laurie is such a fantastic guy, a great guy,
Speaker 2: love by everyone. And the fact that the media went
Speaker 2: so hard and people just went so hard on Lourie
Speaker 2: it actually solidified the team and I think the cash
Speaker 2: crow mangst the team pretty much, even though it might
Speaker 2: have been unspoken, was we're doing this for Lorry and
Speaker 2: so the very fact that the side did that for him,
Speaker 2: it's something he must be incredibly proud about.
Speaker 1: Well, thanks to our friends at Barrocco, Let's let's have
Speaker 1: chat about some of the other best footy BB bounce backs.
Speaker 1: Have you got one that comes to mind?
Speaker 2: Mind is not a fun one. It was two thousand
Speaker 2: and grand five to qualify. We're playing the Roosters anyway,
Speaker 2: we were actually starting the game with a real b
Speaker 2: B bounce. In fact, halftime we're leading them sixteen nil.
Speaker 2: But unfortunately, as we're walking up the tunneled halftime brother Andrew,
Speaker 2: Uncle Joey turned to Luke Riggets from the Rooster side
Speaker 2: and said, what he is doing to mad Monday tomorrow. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: that gave the Roosters the B B bounce and they
Speaker 2: came out the second half and actually BB bounces out
Speaker 2: of the competition.
Speaker 1: And then didn't you BB bounce to the Super League
Speaker 1: the next.
Speaker 2: Year BB bounced to the Super League?
Speaker 1: I did, and then they won the camp and they
Speaker 1: did bounce. I got a I'll get you with an
Speaker 1: inspirational one. Billy Slater, he everyone knows. I think he had.
Speaker 1: He had two years out of the game with one
Speaker 1: of the worst shoulder injuries that the game had ever seen.
Speaker 1: People were questioning whether he'd even come back could play again.
Speaker 1: Cameron Munster was killing it in the fullback position really
Speaker 1: cemented his spot in the NRL, and not only did
Speaker 1: he come back but hit the ground running Billy Slater.
Speaker 1: That year he came back twenty seventeen, he won everything.
Speaker 1: He won State of Origin, the Premiership, he won Wally
Speaker 1: Lewis Medal, he won the Clive Churchill Medal, and then
Speaker 1: represent Australia at the end of the year.
Speaker 2: One of the most amazing seasons ever. I saw him
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen the end of that year, twenty sixteen Melbourne Cup,
Speaker 2: and he looked really down in the mouth, unlike Billy,
Speaker 2: and I said, hey, Bill, you know how you doing
Speaker 2: and he goes, Maddie, I sort of think my career
Speaker 2: might be over. That's how he was feeling at the
Speaker 2: end of twenty sixteen. So twenty seventeen almost an unprecedented
Speaker 2: success for an individual. He certainly had the BB bounce.
Speaker 1: That was footy's best BB bounce backs thanks to Baroka
Speaker 1: gives you back your BB Bounce. Now over to Laurie Daily.
Speaker 1: Let's get into the podcast. Sorry, I know you do
Speaker 1: big sports, breakfast hard.
Speaker 2: It's just hard to know where to start. I woke
Speaker 2: up and read the news about you're dying. That's a
Speaker 2: tough one.
Speaker 3: It is. Can you just take my pulse through this?
Speaker 1: Haven't looked at some of those pulsating veins. It's like
Speaker 1: your blood blood pressure might be a bit of a worry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, can you.
Speaker 2: Can we just run past you? Are you enduring a
Speaker 2: serious health scare?
Speaker 3: Yes? I am, yep, but I can't talk.
Speaker 2: About to the bottom of it. Does it rhyme with ranser?
Speaker 4: Is it.
Speaker 1: Is anywhere? Is anyone past their fifties not having a
Speaker 1: health scare?
Speaker 3: Though? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Look very funny. It's not very funny. But no, I
Speaker 5: can guarantee you. I am as healthy as I've ever been.
Speaker 3: A little off color.
Speaker 5: I've just discovered myself that fat down.
Speaker 3: Clothes don't fit me anymore. Lost a bit of weight,
Speaker 3: but you have laws.
Speaker 2: It's funny when when people lose weight, generally people do
Speaker 2: they go, oh, I'm living fantastic, and then behind your back.
Speaker 5: Well, I lost twenty kgs twenty kg so I was
Speaker 5: one hundred kilo.
Speaker 3: I remember weighing myself on the Easter Monday.
Speaker 6: Where is that?
Speaker 1: So this is from game one to game three?
Speaker 6: Lost?
Speaker 3: My year is this year? In this amount of time?
Speaker 5: So Easter Sunday, Easter Monday through to I got down
Speaker 5: to eighty during Origin three a halftime.
Speaker 3: Half time, then going to.
Speaker 5: At the end of game to actually so yeah, I
Speaker 5: got down eighty and then I've slowly started to put
Speaker 5: on a bit more way time up around eighty three now.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I just, you know, obviously wanted to lose
Speaker 5: a bit of weight. It's funny, isn't it. Like as
Speaker 5: you get a bit older, you walk past the mirror
Speaker 5: and you look at yourself and you're not looking too bad,
Speaker 5: and then your kid yourself cause you're or your guts
Speaker 5: in a bit and you're passing through the iron.
Speaker 3: I'm too bad.
Speaker 2: I'll do that with that, and I also do it
Speaker 2: with the hairline. I looking all the ship. I can't
Speaker 2: believe they're saying popping.
Speaker 3: That's another thing. I haven't got plugs either.
Speaker 6: They go with you as well for hairplops.
Speaker 3: Hair plugs, I think you might have started up there.
Speaker 3: Hair plugs.
Speaker 5: They don't die my hair. But it is funny once
Speaker 5: you start to lose a bit of weight. Yeah, you're
Speaker 5: right there either go you're good, and then behind your.
Speaker 3: Back something with it.
Speaker 6: It's not looking it looks stressed.
Speaker 2: It with a big fat heaps, so they go make
Speaker 2: you look fantastic.
Speaker 3: They I'll tell you this. One day I went out.
Speaker 5: I must have been Mother's Day. I went out and
Speaker 5: I wasn't drinking. We've been off the drink for three
Speaker 5: four months. And anyhow, we went to lunch and then
Speaker 5: we go to this pub after it, and there's my
Speaker 5: family and friends of ours, and anyhow, they're drinking over lunch,
Speaker 5: and then we go to the pub and as you
Speaker 5: what happens, they tend to get a bit more Libya.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when they've had.
Speaker 5: A few and I wasn't drinking and I wanted to
Speaker 5: go home, and she goes to me.
Speaker 3: She turns around and says jesual boring worries.
Speaker 5: But then I knew because I said I didn't really
Speaker 5: comment back, you know, so I knew. I got to
Speaker 5: her and she goes, yeah, and look at you, a
Speaker 5: little skinny over there, but it doesn't make your nose.
Speaker 6: So it was getting.
Speaker 3: That she had to go to that level.
Speaker 2: I had three months off a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: It was just horrible, and I just didn't want to
Speaker 2: go anywhere. And is like, mate, Matt, you don't you
Speaker 2: need to understand that you don't need to drink to
Speaker 2: have a good time. I said, well, you don't need
Speaker 2: shoes to run, but fuck me, at helps it is hard.
Speaker 1: There's nothing harder than going out and being sober when
Speaker 1: everyone else is blind.
Speaker 3: I don't know how they do it. I don't know
Speaker 3: how blokes drive for their mates.
Speaker 1: Oh well that's well, that's because Brandon drunk. They're not sober.
Speaker 1: Those Brandon Smith's now sober and he'll come out with
Speaker 1: us still, But like, just be so And I said
Speaker 1: to him, said, I don't know how you do it
Speaker 1: like and he's because you're also trying to fight the
Speaker 1: urge to have a beer. But if you wanted to
Speaker 1: be sober. But he loves it, and he's got the
Speaker 1: personality that can do it. But I think you've got
Speaker 1: to be a special kind of personality to do it.
Speaker 1: Because it had just pissed me off.
Speaker 3: So well, when I was off it, I didn't go out.
Speaker 5: I just stayed at Heart because I didn't want to mix,
Speaker 5: because I knew that i'd break. I also found the
Speaker 5: longer I went, the better I got it.
Speaker 3: Not having one or feeling like one. Yeah, I'll tell
Speaker 3: you what I made up for it.
Speaker 2: When I, oh, mate, when I when I got off
Speaker 2: at Low seventy five days it actually not by design
Speaker 2: or anything, was first aid of Magic Ground. And I
Speaker 2: remember running into Cooper. You guys arrived at the hotel
Speaker 2: and and I thought I was okay, and I was
Speaker 2: talking to jak VOI is Cooper here? And I just
Speaker 2: see him sort of looking at me.
Speaker 1: Is that when I was playing? Yeah, you're playing the
Speaker 1: next day or something and you come to the team hotel.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was just he was just loitering in the foyer.
Speaker 1: Know, if it was anyone else, lucky they knew who
Speaker 1: Dad was. Otherwise they just kicked him out. Pervert lourding around,
Speaker 1: which I am. Which are Hey, we were just talking
Speaker 1: about it. I feel like we you know, enough times
Speaker 1: past now we can probably bring it up. How's how's
Speaker 1: Ricky Stewart going.
Speaker 3: Ricky's young? Will he gives you his regards?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Tolim's coming on the pro group obviously you two
Speaker 5: buttered heads.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know anyone who's ever a class with Ricky.
Speaker 1: Well we've never said this, but you know, for those
Speaker 1: people that don't know the incident, you rehash your memory.
Speaker 1: I took an inflatable baseball but on the red carpet
Speaker 1: over in Vegas after the Hudson Young Morgan Smithy's elevator
Speaker 1: incident where they weren't fighting, they just happened to be
Speaker 1: having a bit of a push and shove and Ricky
Speaker 1: didn't like it. Ricky didn't like it at all. Took
Speaker 1: quite offense to me having an inflatable baseball blot out there.
Speaker 1: But the next day, actually I saw you at a
Speaker 1: Legiance Stadium and you told me. You said, what did
Speaker 1: you say to me?
Speaker 5: I said, do I say one of the few people
Speaker 5: that Ricky had to regret about doing something?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: You said? You said?
Speaker 1: It was something like he really really regrets having a
Speaker 1: digg yet and he's going to I was talking having
Speaker 1: a coffee with him this morning. He's going to reach
Speaker 1: out and Ringer. It's two and a half years later,
Speaker 1: still isn't.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what you are.
Speaker 5: You are one of the better ones, because yusually he
Speaker 5: wouldn't try and reach out or say anything like that.
Speaker 3: Really, Oh yeah, mate, so you have done really well.
Speaker 2: You have done really he read me one day because
Speaker 2: we're talking on that on the Sunday night, show, and
Speaker 2: we're talking about different players or players or coaches who
Speaker 2: have been players. And someone asked me about Ricky and
Speaker 2: because the Ricky the nature of him being a case
Speaker 2: for so long, people forget what he's like as a player.
Speaker 2: And I said to people like and I said on
Speaker 2: the show, I said, a kid, you're not of all
Speaker 2: the blokes I ever played against, I said, for me, like,
Speaker 2: I thought he was the best way he controlled all
Speaker 2: you blokes. I said, he was just phenomenal anyway, ring
Speaker 2: me at a miscall for him the next day, and
Speaker 2: I thought, okay, now.
Speaker 1: Remember what you said in the throwaway comment on the
Speaker 1: air when you said you said, you know, he's one
Speaker 1: of the best players you know, I've ever played against.
Speaker 1: Even if he hates me, young fellows.
Speaker 2: Him and I said, still he goes mate. Maddie Kayley,
Speaker 2: who's his wife, she said that you said a couple
Speaker 2: of nice things about me on the show last I said, yeah,
Speaker 2: I did, Ricky, and he has mate much appreciated. I said, yeah, mate,
Speaker 2: well I wouldn't he goes And and you also said
Speaker 2: that you know, hopefully you know, even though you hate me, Blake, mate,
Speaker 2: I don't hate you. And so I love to catch
Speaker 2: up with these sometimes and have a yard to him.
Speaker 2: You know, it was just it was just about respect,
Speaker 2: I said, Ricky, honestly, I haven't haven't thought about it.
Speaker 2: He does not.
Speaker 6: We're still joking about it to you.
Speaker 3: He's he's so good like as you quite right. He
Speaker 3: said that he.
Speaker 5: Was the guy that kept our team sort of together
Speaker 5: and made it function. But he was highly competitive, and
Speaker 5: I was lucky I didn't play against him, but I
Speaker 5: used to stand back and admire some of.
Speaker 3: The things that he would say during a game to
Speaker 3: the position players because it was brutal.
Speaker 5: It was ruthless, and I just don't know whether it
Speaker 5: was off the cuff or whether he thought about it
Speaker 5: before the game play.
Speaker 3: He was as good as what you've ever seen.
Speaker 1: We do just have to mention as well, we're currently
Speaker 1: doing a renovation and that the floorboards being done upstairs,
Speaker 1: so if people hear some hammering going on.
Speaker 2: It's this time. It's not Dad masterba microphone.
Speaker 1: It's not true Shoup there with our next door name
Speaker 1: a Marty Okay or Ricky I don't know FREGGI.
Speaker 2: Yet or the inflatable baseball.
Speaker 1: Just before we move on to a bit of origin
Speaker 1: and stuff quite seriously because we took the piss out
Speaker 1: of the health scare stuff. Do you have any idea
Speaker 1: of where that article come from or is that literally
Speaker 1: just come that took you surprise? Even the health Scared article.
Speaker 5: Well, I think at the start when I had to
Speaker 5: lose weight because I was overweight, so I just had
Speaker 5: to do it because they said you're getting too big
Speaker 5: as well.
Speaker 3: So that's where it sort of started to bubble along.
Speaker 5: And I had a few little things that that not
Speaker 5: a major concern, but.
Speaker 3: You're just yeah, yeah, blood.
Speaker 5: Pressures things as you do when you get older. So
Speaker 5: that's that was it. But then yeah, I don't know
Speaker 5: where this one came out of the blue. While wasn't yeah,
Speaker 5: doing what I was doing, and I'm considering standing down
Speaker 5: because of.
Speaker 3: Her health scare. That is not even close.
Speaker 1: To the family get scared, Like did did family members
Speaker 1: come out of wood work thinking you're going to well, yeah.
Speaker 5: Let my fami was just going pink pink from from mates.
Speaker 5: One of the mat colly and told me I had
Speaker 5: him twenty third.
Speaker 1: I was his laugh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's it's unbelievable that cholesterol thing,
Speaker 2: as you said, as you get older, do you have
Speaker 2: do you have high cholesterol?
Speaker 5: Not normally? Yeah, not not normally, but yeah. All the
Speaker 5: markers are the indicators that you need to look out for.
Speaker 3: You've got to be careful with.
Speaker 2: I went got to I went out to test bloke
Speaker 2: tod Like. I was at dinner one night. There was
Speaker 2: a bloke and he's just talking to me. He goes, Maddie.
Speaker 2: He wouldn't believe it. He goes unfit as anything, and
Speaker 2: he said and made. I went in for cholesterol test
Speaker 2: and Mate, suddenly they found it was almost shut.
Speaker 3: Made.
Speaker 1: If it's a new way doing it, John is John hop.
Speaker 2: Anyway, he said made. If it was not week, I
Speaker 2: could have died. Anyway, I'm looking at him and I'm
Speaker 2: just going I've packed a bit of timber on.
Speaker 3: Fuck.
Speaker 2: The next day, I'm driving the car with Trish. Literally
Speaker 2: I had a pank attack and so is true a
Speaker 2: heart attack. I went and got a test and a
Speaker 2: specialist scales. Now you're not in the high you're not
Speaker 2: in a high risk. You know, we had to look
Speaker 2: at the motions of your heart's pretty good. I'm still
Speaker 2: not sure. Anyway, I went got a cholesterol test. It
Speaker 2: was pretty high, and I ring him and said, you know, dog,
Speaker 2: I'm just ringing now. I went and got a cholesterol.
Speaker 2: I made that again. Maddie your paranoid. He said, what's
Speaker 2: your what's your levels? I went eight point three? Went,
Speaker 2: holy fuck, get in here.
Speaker 3: Eight point three. That is that's that is serious? Really?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so.
Speaker 1: Larry, I'm putting poison in his coffee. Have a look
Speaker 1: on me.
Speaker 6: And Jacker inherited.
Speaker 1: Hey, look we had in this studio pre renovation a
Speaker 1: year ago.
Speaker 6: I think twenty started twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: When you first got the state of Orage in job,
Speaker 1: we're talking about, you know, expectations, things you'd learned from
Speaker 1: the first series. Now that you've you've had a couple
Speaker 1: of years in the job, how how was it like
Speaker 1: reflecting back? Was it everything you expected? Or was it
Speaker 1: so much more?
Speaker 3: So much more? I think the media focus around Origin is.
Speaker 5: Massive, and because of there's so many different sort of
Speaker 5: levels and platforms of broadcasting.
Speaker 3: Now everyone has an opinion. Everyone is passionate about.
Speaker 5: Origin, and it drives so much content that everyone can't
Speaker 5: get enough of it. So yeah, so it's one of
Speaker 5: those things that you get yourself in for you probably
Speaker 5: didn't realize when I got back into it how big
Speaker 5: it was and how big it became. Always new Origin
Speaker 5: was the number one program, number one item, ticket item
Speaker 5: for rugby league, But until I got back involved, I
Speaker 5: didn't realize that again. But then you know, all the focus,
Speaker 5: the attention, every decision that you make is scrutinized. But
Speaker 5: it was a great learning experience from when I first
Speaker 5: started to when I ended, because I reckon, I learned
Speaker 5: a lot of things along the way.
Speaker 3: The biggest learning for me was you just got to
Speaker 3: trust your gut.
Speaker 5: Sometimes sometimes you can second guess yourself, but I reckon,
Speaker 5: when when it marries up inside and it marries up
Speaker 5: up here, go with it.
Speaker 2: People talk about that as you get older, they say, intuition,
Speaker 2: it's more important than information. A lot of times, you know,
Speaker 2: all rolled up in your subconscious lows. I think we
Speaker 2: always talk about State of Origin getting bigger year by
Speaker 2: year by year, and I think probably the best way
Speaker 2: we can gauge that to a certain extent, apart from
Speaker 2: TV ratings, is the pressure it exersts on the coaches.
Speaker 2: How different LORII was the pressure, say this year, to
Speaker 2: when you coached way way back in around twenty fourteen,
Speaker 2: and that how different.
Speaker 3: You've felt every decision.
Speaker 5: Right from the get go, so right from selections, right
Speaker 5: from training sessions, right from team meetings, right from game
Speaker 5: It's just everything that you did was analyzed. That's how
Speaker 5: it feels when you're inside the bubble, and that's why
Speaker 5: people can't get enough of it, because that's what people
Speaker 5: talk about and that's what drives the conversation for people
Speaker 5: to go and watch and listen and want to be
Speaker 5: a part of State of Origin. So I didn't sort
Speaker 5: of realize that, but as I went through over the
Speaker 5: last two years, I've come to understand it.
Speaker 3: Everything you do is scrutinized.
Speaker 5: And you've got to make sure that you're getting more
Speaker 5: decisions right than what you get wrong. You're not always
Speaker 5: going to make right decisions, but what you do, you
Speaker 5: make decisions based on what you think is in the
Speaker 5: best interest of the group.
Speaker 1: How hard is that to, like, I suppose, because there's
Speaker 1: like you said, there's podcasting, there's Channel nine, Fox League.
Speaker 1: Everyone's got to opinion on your decisions, and there are
Speaker 1: so many different opinions coming. You know, this person needs
Speaker 1: to start, he needs to pick this person. How hard
Speaker 1: is it to block out all of that and just
Speaker 1: narrow your focus into what you actually believe and letting
Speaker 1: other people's opinions sort of take it.
Speaker 5: Well, it's funny, Coops, because there's a lot of people
Speaker 5: obviously have an opinion, and there are some people that
Speaker 5: you respect as judges and some people that you respect
Speaker 5: what they have to say, so you'd be silly not
Speaker 5: to take that on board. Then there's other people that
Speaker 5: have comments around the game that you may not know
Speaker 5: or you may not agree with what they're saying, so
Speaker 5: you put that to the side and you're blocking out
Speaker 5: what they're talking about. But you know, there'd be pieces
Speaker 5: of gold from everyone any particular people that have been
Speaker 5: on that stage, people that have been at that level,
Speaker 5: So you'd be mad not to sort of hear what
Speaker 5: they've got to say. Not that you have to agree
Speaker 5: with it all the time, but there are things that
Speaker 5: people say that you are Yep, you're right because you're
Speaker 5: on you know, and and it's not about admitting you're
Speaker 5: right or wrong, but it's about learning and when you
Speaker 5: learn and when you're responsible for leading New South Wales.
Speaker 5: I'm not thinking about myself. I'm thinking about how do
Speaker 5: I get this team to where they need to be.
Speaker 5: And if I've got to go from here to there
Speaker 5: because I've got that one wrong.
Speaker 3: Well that's what I've got to do that. That's that's
Speaker 3: the responsibility.
Speaker 2: And talking about the pressure laws, well, first of I'll
Speaker 2: talk about I'll talk about this, and I asked you
Speaker 2: this when we did this on last year, and I
Speaker 2: want your opinion on it because you've gone through it again.
Speaker 2: Is your ability to say, right, oh, that is well,
Speaker 2: let me let me to say, right, oh, this is
Speaker 2: the side that my gut is telling me I have
Speaker 2: to pick. But then everyone is trying to push in
Speaker 2: a different direction, and in your own mind, having the
Speaker 2: discipline to go no, no, no, no no, I'm actually going to trust
Speaker 2: my intuition, which sounds so simple, but I can imagine
Speaker 2: that is probably one of the toughest disciplines.
Speaker 5: It is because you like to listen to advice, and
Speaker 5: sometimes the more you listen to it can confuse you.
Speaker 5: But ultimately, I had final say, and we had to
Speaker 5: make some big decisions throughout the series, and I think
Speaker 5: we blooded nine you guys this year, and they're.
Speaker 3: Big calls to make.
Speaker 5: But I always get back to what is best for
Speaker 5: the team and what we need, and it's not about personalities,
Speaker 5: it's not about anything else other than.
Speaker 3: That, this is what we need to do.
Speaker 5: Who is best going to do that for us in
Speaker 5: this game? So that's how we went. And then you
Speaker 5: marry it all up on what you feel is the
Speaker 5: right thing to do, and you've got to back your
Speaker 5: judgment and you've got to be.
Speaker 3: And I think what happened in game.
Speaker 5: Really convinced me because I was more around people that
Speaker 5: have been there, done it.
Speaker 3: Before, which I still am.
Speaker 5: But after game one when Casey McLean, Stranger or Young Brailles,
Speaker 5: when they all had an impact, I thought to myself, geez,
Speaker 5: all these young bugs, once they get an opportunity, they're
Speaker 5: not going to let anyone down.
Speaker 3: They've proved so trust.
Speaker 5: It sort of trusted me to go with young blokes
Speaker 5: if I needed to give them opportunities.
Speaker 3: Told him it was another way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So it just trusted me to be brave enough
Speaker 5: to go down that path rather than being more conservative.
Speaker 2: Can we just focus on one positional thing where we're
Speaker 2: talking about your own intuition. You got to feel when
Speaker 2: everyone was trying to push a different way, including me,
Speaker 2: after they gained one. For me, I thought one of
Speaker 2: the obvious changes I thought became Murray starting and I
Speaker 2: thought that, you know, in my sense in saying that
Speaker 2: was I thought in Game one, at times we're probably
Speaker 2: trying to push the ball two sideways rather than simplifying
Speaker 2: going forward and Briton Isaiah, even though he's the captain
Speaker 2: off the bench, where with all that noise going on,
Speaker 2: what was the ultimate decision, why did you keep and
Speaker 2: it was the correct decision? Why did you stick with Isaiaha?
Speaker 3: I think there's a couple of reasons there, Matie. I
Speaker 3: think that.
Speaker 5: Yoi Yooi's leadership skills are the best I've seen. Yeah, really,
Speaker 5: so him being able to be in front of that group,
Speaker 5: see the way that they respond to what he has
Speaker 5: to say, the work that we do together, the discussions
Speaker 5: that we have.
Speaker 3: I just know that he's the.
Speaker 5: Right man in the leadership space, and I think leadership
Speaker 5: is so important in that environment. Then I know his
Speaker 5: ability if other people are doing their roles. And I
Speaker 5: also thought that well Cam could do what Yoi did.
Speaker 5: We even tossed around the idea of starting Cam as
Speaker 5: an edge yeah yep, but then we thought, oh, that's
Speaker 5: probably you getting too funky.
Speaker 3: He could do it. Yeah, they've done that's much better.
Speaker 1: They've done that before, they've tested that before. But he's
Speaker 1: his leg speed and footwork's too good through them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we had to be brave and go, well, no,
Speaker 5: we're not going to do that, just so we start
Speaker 5: camp because he can play a massive role coming off
Speaker 5: the bench.
Speaker 3: And I must say that.
Speaker 5: Cam was outstanding through the series and handle it really well.
Speaker 5: But yoee and I think he showed it in the
Speaker 5: in the final just we needed him out there. And
Speaker 5: his ability to carry the ball forward but also pass
Speaker 5: and be that link.
Speaker 2: Man when we needed it was the the other real
Speaker 2: big one. Laurie was watching the first couple of games,
Speaker 2: not just the first couple of games. I've observed this
Speaker 2: for quite a while. It's it's a sort of strange
Speaker 2: one and the inability of Nathan and Teddy to really
Speaker 2: fulfill what looks like could be a champion combination, you know,
Speaker 2: playing different ways. Was there every discussion where whoever sat
Speaker 2: you sat there with your assistance and selectors and going right,
Speaker 2: what are we going to do here? You know, as
Speaker 2: far as Dolan, there was just a no brainer. We're
Speaker 2: going to stick with Teddy and Nathan No once.
Speaker 5: Once we locked in our spine, it was only going
Speaker 5: to change if there was an injury, it was only
Speaker 5: going to change. That's what we wanted to do. And
Speaker 5: I'm a big believer in the more they play footy together,
Speaker 5: better they'll be. And I know that Teddy again, like
Speaker 5: he could have come back into that space burn An
Speaker 5: next to you South Wales captain been.
Speaker 3: Out of there for a couple of years so to speak.
Speaker 5: He got to come come into that group and quite
Speaker 5: easily have just taken a backseat and worried about himself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he became part of the.
Speaker 5: Leadership group and in fact, he and Yaoi were probably
Speaker 5: the two most vocal and talking to the team. And
Speaker 5: I just took my hat off to him because it
Speaker 5: could have quite easily been I just came in to
Speaker 5: worry about myself, but he didn't.
Speaker 1: Is there you got an example of like about Joei's leadership.
Speaker 6: Is there?
Speaker 1: And when he addresses a group, is there a moment
Speaker 1: that stands out in the Three Games show?
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's always moments because he'll take it upon himself
Speaker 5: to organize little catch up groups. He'll take it upon
Speaker 5: himself to send out a group chat to leaders, you know,
Speaker 5: ask him, how is the day's training? Get together with
Speaker 5: your groups tomorrow, have a cup of coffee, you have
Speaker 5: a chat about yeah, something like that. You know, we'll
Speaker 5: catch up. What do you want to talk about tomorrow?
Speaker 5: What do you want to do? You know, do you
Speaker 5: want to lead this?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Just the way he's able.
Speaker 5: To connect with the group, the way he spects, the
Speaker 5: respect that he demands and receives. And you can just
Speaker 5: tell with a player once they talk, when people are
Speaker 5: fixated on them. The eyes are straight on them, listening
Speaker 5: to every word. They're not sort of drifting.
Speaker 3: So he can command a room very.
Speaker 5: Succinct in what he says, straight to the point, you know,
Speaker 5: and you sort of watch how he goes and you go, yeah,
Speaker 5: that's one of the reasons.
Speaker 2: Why Kenrith, where does where does Nathan fit around that?
Speaker 5: So Nate's a bit more quiet. But Nathan, when he
Speaker 5: says something.
Speaker 2: It's we'll hang on, yeah, yeah, hang on.
Speaker 5: He's got something there, And I think that Obviously Nathan
Speaker 5: is a different type of personality to Yai, but just
Speaker 5: as effective. And he he was brilliant in Game three for.
Speaker 3: US and he really you could tell, like he prepares.
Speaker 5: Better than anyone I've ever seen, better than anyone I've seen.
Speaker 5: He's there early in the morning, he's still there late
Speaker 5: at night. But there was something different about him in
Speaker 5: Origin three because he goes through his prep and he's
Speaker 5: the last one off the field and I don't know
Speaker 5: whether well I do know. I think, like, so you
Speaker 5: do your.
Speaker 3: Last training session on Captain's run and then usually everyone
Speaker 3: has a bit of a pass and kick and whatever.
Speaker 3: But not only did he do that, he did some tackling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, gotcha, Okay, yes, so he's going to get physical.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so he did that. He got stranger to
Speaker 5: run anym who was tackling him. So, stranger, you're doing
Speaker 5: these left right foot steps and like this is sort
Speaker 5: of not full impact, but impact which you don't usually
Speaker 5: do because you've trained on the Monday. You've done it,
Speaker 5: and it's a real light, really light captains run. But
Speaker 5: he reverted back to go and bank.
Speaker 1: That's that's Jason Rowles used to say that, especially for
Speaker 1: the halves. Last thing after captain drun. You know, you
Speaker 1: said you do your kick and you do your passing
Speaker 1: with the last thing before you leave the field, get
Speaker 1: a pad, get a bigger body, and have him run
Speaker 1: out here because the last thing you come off this field,
Speaker 1: he wants the hars mentality to that skill.
Speaker 6: Stuff will look after itself.
Speaker 1: But if you're if you're wanting to be physical and
Speaker 1: you want the contact, the.
Speaker 3: Other stuff will can't.
Speaker 5: Well, I might have missed it, but I didn't see
Speaker 5: it in game one or two, but I saw it
Speaker 5: in game three through and.
Speaker 2: He gets out there on the other side of the coin.
Speaker 2: You're right, It's a lot of times it's not the
Speaker 2: tax at the tackling, it's the mindset of the physicality
Speaker 2: and scores the first two tries run the foot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that was a.
Speaker 5: Big thing too for him, was that Cobbo was having
Speaker 5: a lot of success. But we knew we had to have,
Speaker 5: like you looked through Origin and Mitch Moses kicking game
Speaker 5: over the last three games, and it's important up there yep.
Speaker 5: So obviously we had a lot Mitch do a lot.
Speaker 3: Of the long kicking game.
Speaker 5: But another reason was we needed to shore up our
Speaker 5: right edge because Cobbo was having a field.
Speaker 3: They bringing the ball back yep.
Speaker 5: And even Kaylen when you kick to the right what
Speaker 5: he was trying to do is isolate our edge because
Speaker 5: you'd have edge.
Speaker 3: Nathan kicks, so.
Speaker 5: He's back here, you at edge center, So Kaylen to
Speaker 5: get the ball and all of a sudden, if you
Speaker 5: kick to the right winger and holdies with Kaylen, cut
Speaker 5: back and get to the outside. Yeah, have the edge
Speaker 5: defender and put him into put the center. Then in
Speaker 5: two minds whether the GM or stay out and leave
Speaker 5: him one on one or.
Speaker 2: Assume torture and catoni a few times. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So the other thing about that was you've got an
Speaker 5: extra number in your line.
Speaker 3: So not only was.
Speaker 5: It good for us that we could sort of help
Speaker 5: nullify Kaylin, but also gave us another body to.
Speaker 1: Putty Nathan can get on his chase as well.
Speaker 2: What about that? Nathan and Mitchell, the silent alpha and
Speaker 2: the vocal alpha. Those two blokes very sort of different personalities,
Speaker 2: both grade winners. How is their relationship in camp? How
Speaker 2: did they coexist?
Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you this, matey. Nathan was the one
Speaker 5: that said, you take the long kicks.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, okay, yep, Jesus, So.
Speaker 3: He's got the best kicking game, long kicking game. Yep,
Speaker 3: he takes the long kicks.
Speaker 2: That's enormous.
Speaker 3: That's that's how they work. So that's a team ye
Speaker 3: for Nathan Cleary, best player in the game. He says
Speaker 3: that that's well, so that's that's strong.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's amazing, that's strong.
Speaker 1: We know, how how much of I suppose in that
Speaker 1: origin side? How much of a DNA is that Penrith boys,
Speaker 1: you know, yowe Nathan amongst a lot of others. Going
Speaker 1: back to a selection thing, when Brent, when Brian who
Speaker 1: comes out of the side, how do the when you
Speaker 1: go in camp day one, how does those Pandridth boys
Speaker 1: respond to that? Like do they come up? Because I
Speaker 1: imagine it's disappointing for Brian, but I imagine that they
Speaker 1: actually quite like take quite a hit from it as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they do coop.
Speaker 5: I think anytime you lose a close friend in the
Speaker 5: environment and he's your teammatee and you you think he
Speaker 5: should be there, obviously you're disappointed for them, but you
Speaker 5: have a conversation around this is the reason and let
Speaker 5: them know that. I spoke to Brian and obviously the
Speaker 5: conversations are very hard to have because what he's done
Speaker 5: for New South Wales has been impeccable, but we just
Speaker 5: felt like we needed to make that change.
Speaker 3: So yeah, but they.
Speaker 5: They're very good at being able to write. That's the
Speaker 5: decision that's been made. It's good on Yeah, And I was,
Speaker 5: I was really so proud of the group, and I
Speaker 5: reckon it says a lot about this group of players,
Speaker 5: and we've all been there when things get tough, you
Speaker 5: can splinter off and you can sort of every man
Speaker 5: in his you know, you go in your.
Speaker 3: Own direction and every man for himself sort of attitude.
Speaker 5: But it felt like the more we started to copy it,
Speaker 5: the more we sort of.
Speaker 3: Just got and tighter.
Speaker 1: We had Hudson on. We had Hudson on the day
Speaker 1: after Origin three. He came on and he said the
Speaker 1: same thing you are. I think you asked him, you know,
Speaker 1: with all the outside noise about Nathan dominating Origin, the
Speaker 1: media into you, how did that effect coming into camp
Speaker 1: game three? Out of that effect? And he said, it
Speaker 1: just gave us a galvanized to sort together, like.
Speaker 2: Spun the narrative didn't it on the coins there New
Speaker 2: South Wales?
Speaker 5: If it makes it, yeah, I think it did matter.
Speaker 5: I think I could like our preparations were always good,
Speaker 5: like we never had a bad bad prep. But there
Speaker 5: was just something steerly about the look in their eye.
Speaker 5: And you know, they weren't loud, they were just focused.
Speaker 5: They were And the.
Speaker 3: Thing that I said to my wife and she laughed
Speaker 3: at me. So Robert Kingsliff, we called your boring. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: We went for a walk on the Friday morning day off.
Speaker 3: So it went for a walk on the day off.
Speaker 5: So we walked from where we were staying into Kingsliff
Speaker 5: And anyway, we get there and we go for coffee
Speaker 5: at the surf Club.
Speaker 3: I'll get at the surf Club and.
Speaker 5: I look and there's I don't know twelve or the
Speaker 5: boys there and they're all sitting around having a coffee,
Speaker 5: just sitting around all together like something in the surf
Speaker 5: getting out. And it just showed you, like how tight
Speaker 5: they really were.
Speaker 3: Like day off yearsually, some.
Speaker 5: Likes will go, some wakes will go there, I spend
Speaker 5: with family, whatever it was. But there was a really
Speaker 5: strong group of numbers. I said, I said, so that
Speaker 5: said that's good. Yeah, what do you mean burn together?
Speaker 5: She said, aren't they together all the time? I said, yeah,
Speaker 5: they are, but this is their day off. It's actually
Speaker 5: how good they go off.
Speaker 3: They can do whatever, but they're all. It might have
Speaker 3: been more than usually numbers.
Speaker 1: It's usually in a team, you wouldn't see more like
Speaker 1: that number of boys like they all, like you said,
Speaker 1: they have their little group of three and four and
Speaker 1: they'll go and do their own thing. They don't really
Speaker 1: socialize outside of that. But to see such a large
Speaker 1: group of them together.
Speaker 2: And Ted must make you proud or make well proud, yeah,
Speaker 2: or just give you the amazing feeling because none of
Speaker 2: those players so everything that was being said, I never
Speaker 2: heard any of those players say, you know, in the media,
Speaker 2: we're into us, or yeah they were proving the critics
Speaker 2: wrong to us. It was made people are saying this
Speaker 2: about Lourie, and the very fact that that group came
Speaker 2: together so tight and did that was because of you.
Speaker 2: That must be an amazing feeling.
Speaker 5: It was, Maddie, and it was amazing because not that
Speaker 5: I wanted them to, but a lot of them kept
Speaker 5: coming up to me going, mate, we got your back. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: I tell you, And I'm thinking, I don't know.
Speaker 2: What they've been saying about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really we established And I'm still a big
Speaker 5: believe this. This is my whole philosophy is if you've
Speaker 5: got a tight connected group when it when it gets tough,
Speaker 5: you'll bunk it down together. Yes, you'll bunk it down together.
Speaker 5: And we experienced a very.
Speaker 3: Tough period after Game two.
Speaker 5: We experienced something that a lot of them probably haven't
Speaker 5: experienced a lot of before. It felt like we were
Speaker 5: getting punched around and everyone was coming from every angle.
Speaker 3: But they didn't splinter. They stayed together.
Speaker 5: And that's what you're very proud of as a as
Speaker 5: a coach, that your team just bunkers down, They get
Speaker 5: behind each other, they support each other, and then become
Speaker 5: everyone talks about becoming a brother, Well they become more.
Speaker 1: Do you think there is like this might be a
Speaker 1: silly question, but do you think I don't know if
Speaker 1: you saw it? Do you think my speech had anything
Speaker 1: to do with it?
Speaker 6: Speech was that you.
Speaker 1: Didn't see it?
Speaker 6: The motivational speech.
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 6: I'll show you after this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, was a good we'll talk.
Speaker 2: We we constantly talk about the outside noise. The outside
Speaker 2: noise for you and I is very different to the
Speaker 2: outside noise for the generation after us. And given the
Speaker 2: very facts, it was very easy, you said, made I
Speaker 2: just wasn't rooting it and was watching it. I was
Speaker 2: talking to a coach the other day about it, and
Speaker 2: he was talking about a couple of players. He said,
Speaker 2: what were his key players? But he said, one of
Speaker 2: them is just his performance is deteriorating because he just
Speaker 2: can't let go of his phone, you know, And you
Speaker 2: know for for us, you know, I'm not social media,
Speaker 2: know that you aren't. How how how difficult was it
Speaker 2: for the players? Do you think like or was there
Speaker 2: any rule in camp regarding the phones, because I reckon
Speaker 2: that just about in modern day cation would just be
Speaker 2: the most trickiest, difficult thing to deal with.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we didn't really have a hard and fast rule,
Speaker 5: but what we did speak about was stay away, just
Speaker 5: stay away because negative thoughts are getting going to get
Speaker 5: there nowhere. And we did a few little exercises around that.
Speaker 5: But overall, I think that they understood that by staying
Speaker 5: away from social media, even though they looked possibly I
Speaker 5: don't know, but they would have limited what they did.
Speaker 5: They would have limited the amount of time they went
Speaker 5: on their phone.
Speaker 3: Because I've got to say, you know, around where I
Speaker 3: was and team rooms, they all interact pretty strongly rather
Speaker 3: than looking at their phones. Yep.
Speaker 5: And the other good one too is I always find
Speaker 5: that the little mini busses are really good rather than
Speaker 5: a big coach. Yeah yeah, because the little minibusses you've
Speaker 5: got a jo yeah yeah, buck show or something.
Speaker 3: So we have four or five little minibusses instead of
Speaker 3: the big coach.
Speaker 5: When you're getting around, so you've got to pile in
Speaker 5: and it's first man in, and so you're sitting in
Speaker 5: different seats, but you're sitting with different people as well,
Speaker 5: so you mix every session you go to, you're mixing
Speaker 5: with a different bloke. You're sitting with a different bloke,
Speaker 5: you're coming home with a different blake. You're chatting, and
Speaker 5: you get to know someone on a personal level.
Speaker 3: So I like that.
Speaker 1: I like the ninety six dinner as well before game
Speaker 1: game three, where the ninety sixteen is a twenty year
Speaker 1: anniversary and every player had someone to sit next to.
Speaker 1: Because I saw Joey the next day, Holy heck, it
Speaker 1: looked like the ninety sixteen had a good talk. I
Speaker 1: heard Jason Croker was out to the early hour ninety
Speaker 1: six schooners.
Speaker 3: Well he broke the record. I think to it's but
Speaker 3: it was very funny because.
Speaker 5: They must have thought we were mad, the young the
Speaker 5: current a fight because I remember there at one stage
Speaker 5: Joey and I were sitting and Freddy was there and
Speaker 5: Nathan and someone else was sitting there and they was looking.
Speaker 3: At his car for real with these barbarians.
Speaker 4: By the way, great Mats there too for nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 2: Twenty years, thirty years again.
Speaker 6: Had his arrogance there too.
Speaker 3: It's like.
Speaker 2: Just social media singing again like quickly sort of bang
Speaker 2: on a bed of just you know.
Speaker 3: Just letting go.
Speaker 2: But there's a bloke. It's very interesting is that there's different.
Speaker 2: There's a blake going around the world world sport trying
Speaker 2: to teach coaches, trying to find the solution for this,
Speaker 2: you know, and they believe it. You know. The people
Speaker 2: who can find the solution quick enough is going to
Speaker 2: be like one of the vital things. And what Raal
Speaker 2: Madrid are doing now, it was amazing. They used to
Speaker 2: get there and they have a person they're waiting before
Speaker 2: the players will get it in the shed to look
Speaker 2: at their phones. Now they realize they went you know what,
Speaker 2: probably in their own minds what they think is going
Speaker 2: to be their worse sometimes than it is. So when
Speaker 2: rather drid players come off, they've got three minutes to
Speaker 2: go on their phones, have a look and then put
Speaker 2: them away back on it. Isn't that do you find
Speaker 2: like that?
Speaker 1: Is?
Speaker 2: That is as bizarre? But they say that is the
Speaker 2: lesser of the two evils.
Speaker 5: But I suppose Maddie that it's a big part of
Speaker 5: it because they're never going to get off it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's a big part of their promotional brand of themselves
Speaker 5: or whatever businesses they're promoting. But like my big thing
Speaker 5: is as an athlete, you've got to be careful when
Speaker 5: you go on it and when you stay off it,
Speaker 5: you know, because the more more people say bad things,
Speaker 5: the more you start to think. And you only got
Speaker 5: a cloud to judgement a little bit and it could
Speaker 5: put you off.
Speaker 3: So yeah, they've got to be careful.
Speaker 2: Was what about yourself personally? And we're not going to
Speaker 2: ask you about you Are you going to coach? We
Speaker 2: spoke about this beforehand. It's none of our business.
Speaker 1: But are you going to go?
Speaker 2: Can you see yourself wearing a blaze? But for you personally?
Speaker 2: Love Compeared to other series, how Big A told this one.
Speaker 5: It did take out a big toll because you're emotionally
Speaker 5: invested right from the get go, regardless, and you write
Speaker 5: every play. And I suppose the fact that there was
Speaker 5: more criticism this year than than others, well it felt
Speaker 5: like that. So you sort of and you know, you've
Speaker 5: got a great responsibility to the state, you've got a
Speaker 5: great responsibility to the playing group, coaching group, everyone, and
Speaker 5: we're all we all want to win, but you also
Speaker 5: want to do the best job you possibly can.
Speaker 3: So you write every play. You feel every moment, and.
Speaker 5: You you wake up after an origin if you have won,
Speaker 5: your sky high, and if you have lost, you feel
Speaker 5: like you've let millions of people down.
Speaker 3: That's just the way you feel.
Speaker 1: How do you know? Dad was talking about, like for
Speaker 1: players trying to block out of social media and stuff,
Speaker 1: But how do you sort of, I suppose avoid the
Speaker 1: outside noise because you've still got to front up at
Speaker 1: press conferences. And I'm sure people are like sending you
Speaker 1: or ringing you, saying mate, I hope you're doing all right.
Speaker 2: Reading articles you've got that made the rings just make
Speaker 2: you wouldn't believe that. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Well, it's funny, So I didn't read. I didn't hear.
Speaker 5: I didn't see that. People would ring or text and
Speaker 5: I'd cut them off. I just say that they want
Speaker 5: to hear or get to the text and start to
Speaker 5: root it at the start and just just thanks. And
Speaker 5: I just didn't want to go into it myself. And
Speaker 5: I did that because you tell the players to, yeah,
Speaker 5: rush the outside noise, Yeah, yeah, just put so if
Speaker 5: I'm not going to do it, I can't not then
Speaker 5: expect the player not to do it.
Speaker 1: Being naive is possibly it's possibly the most powerful thing. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: Because we were saying it leading into game three, it
Speaker 1: was like, all the outside noise, it means if I
Speaker 1: go out and win this, everything that's said about New
Speaker 1: so Well is this series means absolutely nothing because they've
Speaker 1: won the series.
Speaker 5: I've got to say, and I don't usually get I
Speaker 5: get nervous, I get anxious.
Speaker 3: I was so calm before going three and I was,
Speaker 3: I was confident.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 5: I don't like to say it, but I said to
Speaker 5: a couple of my friends, I said, look, guys, I said,
Speaker 5: I think we're going to win. I think I think
Speaker 5: this will be our best performance we've seen in a
Speaker 5: long while. That's what I seen in a couple of people.
Speaker 5: And you don't want to say it out loud because
Speaker 5: if it doesn't.
Speaker 3: Happen, people are you got no one?
Speaker 5: But honestly, I was so calm that day. I was
Speaker 5: so confident, and you, I don't know, you just get
Speaker 5: a feel when you're you know. I spoke to them
Speaker 5: before we jumped onto the bus, and then I spoke
Speaker 5: to them again just before they ran out, and I
Speaker 5: didn't have to say too much, and you just knew
Speaker 5: that they were dialed in and they were hungry and
Speaker 5: they were going to do whatever.
Speaker 2: In an amazing when you sounds so simple, but in
Speaker 2: State of Origin, as you said, everything going on, all
Speaker 2: the subplots which make it even bigger, not just about
Speaker 2: back in the day, State of Origin, come on New
Speaker 2: South Wales, Boo coins Land. Now it's is Nathan clearly
Speaker 2: the solution is Nathan clearly going to dominate like it
Speaker 2: has a club level. Should Cam Murray starts, he's this
Speaker 2: plate right there are honestly, there are about two hundred
Speaker 2: subplots to go on, and amongst everything, Laurie isn't funny.
Speaker 2: It must be hard. Sometimes you just clear the ball
Speaker 2: and just just win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just win.
Speaker 5: Well, winning solves a lot, doesn't it. Winning resolves everything.
Speaker 5: Everyone quietens down, and as I said, it just feels
Speaker 5: like Origin has become such a massive beast. Now it's
Speaker 5: bigger than any other thing. But you know, you're not
Speaker 5: going to get everything right. I understand that, but you
Speaker 5: hope that you get the majority of things right. And
Speaker 5: I think any leader will tell you that, you know,
Speaker 5: if they have their time over again. You know, when
Speaker 5: you review a game, it's like a player, well as
Speaker 5: a coach when you review a game, Yeah, you know
Speaker 5: what I could have done this better than what I
Speaker 5: did during the game. But what you try and take
Speaker 5: out of that is, if we're in this situation again,
Speaker 5: this is what we're going to do. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: I reckon that we had really good learnings right throughout.
Speaker 5: But I was really confident that we would give a
Speaker 5: performance like that.
Speaker 3: But I just thought it'd be earlier rather than the
Speaker 3: last game.
Speaker 2: Your brother brothers in arms, Well not exactly, but brothers
Speaker 2: in Arms. As far as Pressure is concerned, that although
Speaker 2: he's in the other bunker, Billy Slater and only YouTube
Speaker 2: blokes really knew about the Pressure, and everything goes on
Speaker 2: did you speak at full time?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: Billy came up and congratulated me, very gracious obviously. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and you know we spoke for thirty seconds.
Speaker 3: It's always hard. I did the same previous year when
Speaker 3: we lost or made it a bee line to him
Speaker 3: and he was the same.
Speaker 5: You know, it's amazing that you're a static but when
Speaker 5: the other coach comes.
Speaker 3: Over you hold yourself together.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you pay that respect and Billy has done
Speaker 5: a wonderful job with Queensland, so yeah, you always go
Speaker 5: and find out the other coach and find out where
Speaker 5: he is.
Speaker 2: And finally, Laurie on state of Origin. You've played, you
Speaker 2: played Australia, you've played State of Overgion football, you play
Speaker 2: Grand Finals, You've excelled in all of them. You know
Speaker 2: how to handle pressure. What Toll does to take on
Speaker 2: the family.
Speaker 3: I think that's the biggest one.
Speaker 5: Like no one ever likes criticism, but I reckon you
Speaker 5: goops myself because we've been involved in that environment. I
Speaker 5: reckon you handle it pretty well. We have it pretty well.
Speaker 5: You sort of just park it and if you if
Speaker 5: you sort of respect the guy and he says something,
Speaker 5: well you know it might knock you around a bit more.
Speaker 3: Others it doesn't. If it's a.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just one of those things that that you
Speaker 5: sort of know how to park it. But it still
Speaker 5: gets to you, but not as much as it gets
Speaker 5: to your family. Because the family are reading it, and
Speaker 5: you know, I got kids as well. You're telling them
Speaker 5: to stay off social media, don't risk listen. I can't,
Speaker 5: They can't, you know, And that's what happens. So they
Speaker 5: get they get very protective their their father as well.
Speaker 1: It must have been nice for them, like it must
Speaker 1: have been. They must have loved, like seeing going down
Speaker 1: the sheds after the game he celebrate with the boys.
Speaker 1: I love seeing the video of Stephen Crichton just pull
Speaker 1: the gatorade on you and then he was going to
Speaker 1: and then he.
Speaker 6: Was screaming at the back what are they going to say?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 6: What are they going to see?
Speaker 1: But it must be nice to go into the sheds
Speaker 1: after there and your family who's you know, like you said,
Speaker 1: they're probably reading the press more than you are. They're
Speaker 1: wearing it just as hard and you celebrate that win
Speaker 1: with them.
Speaker 5: It was it was amazing because my young Blake was
Speaker 5: over in London, so he didn't see any of the
Speaker 5: Origin series.
Speaker 3: He left before the series started.
Speaker 2: He was confident.
Speaker 5: And then my daughter she was over there for the
Speaker 5: first game in London too, so she missed Origin one
Speaker 5: and then yeah she came back. But so yeah, I
Speaker 5: had with two daughters and Michelle there and great friends
Speaker 5: with us as well. But yeah, you just feel happy
Speaker 5: for everyone because it's such I don't know it affects everyone.
Speaker 5: When you come home after losing an Origin game. Honestly,
Speaker 5: you don't feel like leaving the house.
Speaker 3: You feel like you.
Speaker 5: Don't watch anything, you don't hear anything. You just bunk
Speaker 5: it down together and you feel like, honestly, you feel
Speaker 5: like you let a lot of people down and you
Speaker 5: feel you.
Speaker 3: Just got your head down.
Speaker 5: You don't want to sort of make eye contact with anyone,
Speaker 5: whereas when you win, your head up you're walking around around.
Speaker 1: When you talk about like when let's use Newcastle for example,
Speaker 1: Like I know when the boys up there, if they're
Speaker 1: going on a ship run, they don't even want to
Speaker 1: go to woolies or coals because people are grabbing the thing.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, what's going on with the Knights at the moment.
Speaker 1: I'm now put that on a scale by ten because
Speaker 1: New South Wales, every team, every every club team comes together,
Speaker 1: unifies for a whole state. And if you have a
Speaker 1: bad game, it's like you go to any woolies in
Speaker 1: any suburb in New South Wales, someone will grab you
Speaker 1: and go mate, what the fuck's.
Speaker 3: And they'd ask you the same question like when you're out.
Speaker 5: But I must say, when you're running to people like
Speaker 5: they talk to you out like they know you.
Speaker 3: And it's great, good yeah yeah, and they go you
Speaker 3: know what. I have to laugh at this one.
Speaker 5: I have to laugh at this one because and then
Speaker 5: it's coming from the right spot.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 5: You know into game three you get text messages or
Speaker 5: you'd run into regardless.
Speaker 3: Of the results, regardless of everythle on behind you. It
Speaker 3: was like, I'm just I don't think you win.
Speaker 2: A circle of friends and honestly I'm the only one
Speaker 2: that's backing you.
Speaker 1: What are you doing?
Speaker 6: What are you doing with yourself?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: No, because I have to take time off through the radio.
Speaker 2: PI radio yeah to take time there.
Speaker 5: So I yeah, won't take time off. But Michelle's going
Speaker 5: across the London will.
Speaker 1: Oh really, so what do you?
Speaker 6: What are you just?
Speaker 1: You will just be home alone. What does Laurie Daily
Speaker 1: do when he's alone?
Speaker 6: Because I heard you're in news.
Speaker 2: Well, let's just show that.
Speaker 3: This with your father. Yes, we roomed together and with
Speaker 3: your uncle.
Speaker 1: Me and Joey went up to Townsville on the weekend.
Speaker 1: We did a luncheon together up there, and thirty thirty
Speaker 1: minutes of the hour that me and him up there
Speaker 1: spinning yards. He was just telling everyone all the towns
Speaker 1: or locals.
Speaker 6: Mate, Laurie Daily, its every single time.
Speaker 1: Five minutes into rooming with him, completely.
Speaker 2: New, everyone's we're rooming Laurie and I in New Zealand
Speaker 2: And and I was over there cover for Laurie who
Speaker 2: had a hamstring concern. So I was is Lorry pulled out.
Speaker 2: I was in right. And remember once you're in the
Speaker 2: bath and you're going, oh, I tell you what, Maddie.
Speaker 2: I sort of think it's loosened up a little bit.
Speaker 2: Although it's a little bit tight. And when I yeah,
Speaker 2: from from you know, from what I hear it's a
Speaker 2: little bit tight. I wouldn't risk it. Let me just
Speaker 2: get my shoulder under that finger.
Speaker 3: Manes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, guys, just say to from your last episode of
Speaker 4: I wanted to bump you and tell you the clip
Speaker 4: you told where you told the story about Tommy. That
Speaker 4: story was that might be one of our biggest clips ever.
Speaker 4: I think people just frothed that talking.
Speaker 1: About when he's we're going to slide, we're going to
Speaker 1: get up.
Speaker 5: The other one about Tommy I remember was when he
Speaker 5: did the video on alf.
Speaker 3: Yes, he did the video and even though he's made
Speaker 3: of mind, we're gonna bash. You got to give it
Speaker 3: to it anyway.
Speaker 5: Right, we're on the train, so I goes, Tommy.
Speaker 2: You might be there, and you two put on your
Speaker 2: los mate.
Speaker 3: Thanks Coops.
Speaker 2: What do you think of the rent pleasure? Thanks loves good.
Speaker 1: There's another bedroom in you I know where you lived there. Yeah,