1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to Healthy Ish. Dear listeners, thanks for joining us 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: today and hello if this is your first time tuning in, Yes, 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: this is the daily podcast from Body and Soul with 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: me Felicity Halley, and today we are going to learn 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: more about building fitness endurance. Joining me is fitness coach 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: and content creator Annabelle Ronfeldt, and she shares a few 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: handy tips and exercises you can do in the gym 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: which will help build your endurance. And she also shares 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: her personal experiences because she's currently training for the Sydney Marathon. 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: Now listening to Extra Healthy Ish, where she shares nutrition 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: chips for your longer workout sessions. Now she's talking about 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: a forty two kre but she's got something in there 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: if you only are striving for a five k run. 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: You can search for Extra Healthy Ish wherever you get 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: your podcasts. Annabelle, thanks for us today. Unhealthy is How 16 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: are you good? 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: How are you good? 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: Have you been for a run today? 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: I was meant to, but I've had to push it 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: back tomorrow just because I'm looking a little bit of 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: motivation at the moment. But that's all right. 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: Oh, I think that's music to all of ours. When 23 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: it comes to endurance, some days you just don't feel 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: like doing it right. 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: No, So I did a gym session and said, but 26 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: I'll get up early tomorrow and get it done. 27 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: Okay, how many CA's tomorrow? 28 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: Unfortunately I'm doing twenty. 29 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: Four Oh wow? 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, not a small and hence why I've been 31 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: putting it off. 32 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yep, Now you don't make the rest of 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: us feel normal, but yeah, fair enough, twenty four k's. 34 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: That's a lot to wrap your head around. Now, when 35 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: it comes to building endurance in a sport, now it 36 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: could be running or if you're into swimming or cycling, 37 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: talk to us a bit about the role strength training 38 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: plays in building endurance. 39 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I think in running, especially, a lot of 40 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: people just start running and they tend to get injured. 41 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: And I think that's because they neglect the strength training 42 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: portion of it, which definitely still plays a huge role. 43 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: And it's something yeah, people tend to overlook. I found 44 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: myself it is huge in preventing injuries. I even suffered 45 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 2: from shin slins towards the end of last year, and 46 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: I later found out it was because I had a 47 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 2: couple of muscular imbalances, which was then just affecting my 48 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: joints and putting extra stress on my bones and creating 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: a fatigue, especially when you were out there for long 50 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: periods of time, say one to two hours, and the 51 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: impact running has on your bones as well, especially your shins. 52 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: So weight training just you know, works those finer muscles 53 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: that you do use for running and helps you protect 54 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: your joints like your knees, your ankles, and especially when 55 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: you are running more, especially around that thirty plus k mark. 56 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: It's a long time and it's a lot of impact 57 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: on your joints, so it's a little tiper important to 58 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: have strong muscles to be able to keep you going 59 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 2: for that amount of distance. But then also yeah, at 60 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: those injuries. 61 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: Because I think it's interesting a lot of people, you know, 62 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: we've got we're in like a running bonanza at the 63 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: moment in Australia. I feel like everyone's running, which is 64 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: so amazing and fantastic that more people are getting out there. 65 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: It's a free it's free, easy to do. Just whack 66 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: on your shoes and go. Not twenty four k's but yeah, 67 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: maybe four. But we often don't think about the importance 68 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: of strength training in the kind of mix of it all. 69 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: So let's talk about beginners first, before we go into 70 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: a marathon. How should we approach strength training in the 71 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: gym if we're just starting out with you know, our 72 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: running or swimming or cycling. What's kind of the mindset 73 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: that we should take in. 74 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think with strength training in general, just basic 75 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: is best. You don't need it over complicated at all, 76 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: especially nowadays where you know you've got the presence of Instagram, 77 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: TikTok and all these people making different content. It can 78 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: be very overwhelming, especially for a beginner when you're getting 79 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: so many different things essentially shut down your throat and 80 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: you don't know what's real and you don't really know 81 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: how to approach it. So my advice was just would 82 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: just be to stick to the basic movements, just the compounds, 83 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: work your low body mostly if it is running that 84 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: you are training for, and add in two to three 85 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: per week. So for example, with my hyperprogram that I 86 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 2: have with move with Us when it is running as well, 87 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: I have an upper, a lower, and then a full 88 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: body session in there. So again you don't need to 89 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: make it too complicated. Just pick three to five movements 90 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 2: that you're going to focus on, and then a couple 91 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 2: accessories just to work those finer movements. 92 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: And how long should we spend in there? What sort 93 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: of timeframe? 94 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: I hate spending hours, so I always try to do 95 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: fifty to sixty minutes, like over an hour if yeah, 96 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: not necessary, if you want to see. 97 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: Resiz, he's got an hour anyway too, exactly over an hour. 98 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: What about you? You know, when you're going for say 99 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,239 Speaker 1: a half marathon or a marathon or a really long 100 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: endurance event, what how do we how do you well, 101 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: how do you I suppose? And how should we approach 102 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: strength training in the gym? 103 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, So when I went through my big eighteen week 104 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: training block when I was training for my previous marathon, 105 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: the first eight weeks was kind of about building that 106 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 2: muscular endurance, building that strength. And then the second half, 107 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: when the k's really started to increase, and you know, 108 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 2: I'm running fifty k weeks at a time, running a 109 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: half marathon every single weekend, it's a lot of extra 110 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 2: strain on your legs. So in the second eight weeks, 111 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: the strength training mainly became maintenance, just kind of maintaining 112 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: strength because obviously when you are running that much. It's 113 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: it's quite hard to build muscle during that period. So yeah, 114 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: towards the end of it, it was just about maintaining 115 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: and because of the extra load on the legs, it 116 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 2: was kind of just one low body and then an 117 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: upper body to Jan's substitute. In those days, if. 118 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: We're a bit of a mid range run as say 119 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: you know a ten or fourteen k, are there any 120 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: specific strength training moves we should be doing. Yeah, So 121 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: with running, I found it's really important to have a 122 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: strong posterior chain. So obviously when you are going for speed, especially, 123 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: your power comes from your glutes and your hamstrings and 124 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: your calves, so working movements like your hip thrust, your 125 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: rdls calf phrases also super important, as calves tend to 126 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: get a bit neglected. And then also when if you 127 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: are deciding to run longer distances, you need that muscular 128 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: in durrant in your cords as well, so. 129 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: Again it doesn't need to be over complicated. Just your squats, 130 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: and then also your single leg work because at the 131 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: end of the day running you're on one leg at 132 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: a time, so it is super important to kind of 133 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: balance out any imbalances you have between your legs. 134 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: Now you are training for the City Marathon. I presume 135 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: that that's the twenty four ks that you're about to 136 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: attack tomorrow. Yeah, what does your training look like for 137 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: this event? 138 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so this training block has been quite different just 139 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: because I've got a lot of events leading up to it, 140 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: so it's kind of a bit broken. So I'm also 141 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: training for high Rocks as well at the moment, which 142 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: is spot on your Instagram. Yeah, so my training at 143 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: the moment, my interval session a week is kind of 144 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: based around the high Rocks, but it's still going to 145 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: help me improve my speed for the marathon. So that's 146 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: about eight to ten k that session. And then obviously 147 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: I've got my long run, which just increases slowly each week. 148 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: That one in particular, I run for time, so I 149 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: do that just so I'm not focused on my pace, 150 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: and so I'm interesting and try and keep my heart 151 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: rate down because I find if I just run for distance, 152 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: I'll tend to speed up just so I can get 153 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: it done. That's really interesting because a lot of people 154 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: run for distance, so you kind of flip it. I 155 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 2: suppose it comes down to what sort of person you 156 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: are and how makes you're suited to time or distance. Yeah, 157 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 2: I just think if it's I'm out there anyway, so 158 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: I might as well just go slow. 159 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, all the best with the City Marathon, and 160 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on Healthy Ish. Yes, thank you, 161 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: and yes I know we focused on running that. Hey, 162 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: come summer, we'll give you an episode on building swimming endurance. 163 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: And it seems everyone out there running right now, so 164 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: we had to talk about running anyway. I hope you 165 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: did enjoy this chat. 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