1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Get a welcome to the show. This is better than Yesterday. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Useful tools and useful conversations to help make your day 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: to day better than yesterday. Every single episode, every week 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: since twenty thirteen. My name Josha Ginsberg, and I'm very 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: very glad you'll hear. And I'm also very glad that 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: say What nowt What is out now, the brand new 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: book that I've been working on for a long time 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: with Campbell Walker, who did all the illustrations. It is 9 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: a mental health toolbox, useful to have for yourself or 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: someone you know, someone you love that might really do 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: with the fresh idea about how to handle things. It 12 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: was written in conjunction with an excellent psychologist who made 13 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: sure that we weren't selling bunk them. It is brilliant, 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: unbelievably wonderful feedback from people who've got it already, and 15 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: I'd love you to get your hands on it. You 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: can get the link in the show notes right now 17 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: to get your copy. There's also a link there for 18 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: my first book, which is back in print. It's about 19 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: the fourth time we've printed it, so I'm pretty happy 20 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: about that. Because you can only get on an audiobook for 21 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: like the last two years or so, but popped it 22 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: out again. So Back after the Break is out right now, 23 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: as well as So What Now White. Both those books 24 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: in the show notes, which is also where you can 25 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: get your tickets to story Club, the monthly live storytelling 26 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: show that I do. Next show will be the seventh 27 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: of September. Lineup is about to be announced. If you 28 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: were at the last show, I stilled on stage and 29 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: held up a QR code and you got a fantastic discount. However, 30 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: everybody else will be playing full price. Sorry. If you 31 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: want to get the discount, you got to come to 32 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: the show. But yeah, those tickets are on sale right now. 33 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: Just buy a fucking ticket, all right. The lineup is 34 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 1: gonna be good. It's always good. Just by ticket. I'll 35 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: be there and Zoe will be there, so you'll know 36 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: at least two people are going to be there. I'm 37 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: going to tell you a story that I told on 38 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: Sunday night at the last show that we did. Story 39 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: Club only has two rules. The story has to be true, 40 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: and the story has to be less than fifteen hundred words. 41 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: A theme for this week was fortune Knocks But Once 42 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: Rob Carlton, Karen Ferry, my wife, Audrey Griffin, Luke, Heggy 43 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: Jeeves Vermer, all told brilliant, brilliant stories which are coming 44 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 1: on the substack very soon. Paid subscribers get to watch 45 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: all those things in full. But I will tell you 46 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: my story right now. It's four pm in nineteen ninety seven, 47 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: and this Brisbane afternoon at the Livid Festival is steamier 48 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: than Satan's underpants. Even though we're crammed into a shed 49 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: at the Ecka Showgrounds, the lingering stink of a hundred 50 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: years of cow pooh is quickly forgotten as DJ Catch 51 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: drops the hook and two thousand punters heaves one. I've 52 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: been a part of the Brisbane music scene for some 53 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: time now, and a great gig in a shed that 54 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: smells like cowshit pretty much sums it up in one sentence. 55 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: I've been playing bass with the seminal Brisbane hip hop 56 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: outfit resin Dogs for a little over a year, and 57 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: right now I am having the greatest gig of my life. 58 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: I dance my ass off and I play that bass 59 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: like I personally invented funk. Days later, I'm still high 60 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: from the roar of the crowd and my phone rings 61 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: we can't use the recording because the base is out 62 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: of time and out of tune. Ah. This probably has 63 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: something to do with the enormous joint I shared with 64 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: some of the other guys in the band before going on. 65 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: I'd been high before, but that weed left me at 66 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: an altitude where space and time ceased, behaving in a 67 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: predictable way to steady the ship. I then drank four 68 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: full strength cans of festival temperature beer, hoping to get 69 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: things back on track, but apparently not. Don't worry, the 70 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: band still has a bass player, though that bass player 71 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: is no longer me. I hang out heartbroken. My identity 72 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: is welded to being a musician, to being a great performer. 73 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: Who am I now? Rather than admit that I've blown 74 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: it from getting too fucked up, I do the mature 75 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: thing and avoid responsibility by converting it into resentment. A 76 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: few weeks later, in town at Rocking Horse Records, buying 77 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: a ticket to the big day out next to the register, 78 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: right there on the wall as a poster for a 79 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: RESINDC gig at the Zoo next week. We'd sold out 80 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: that then you just a few months beforehand, and my 81 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: heart breaks once again. The moment of crushing rejection is 82 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: something I would later recognize in the eyes of naively 83 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: hopeful young Australians as I told them on live television 84 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: that no, Australia doesn't think you're that good at singing. 85 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: Could you please fuck off? Oh before you go, here's 86 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: a microphone. Can you please sing us a song while 87 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: we roll the credits? Now that we've all decided that 88 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: your shit. Making this moment worse is that I'd not 89 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: yet come to accept how my choices around drinking and 90 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: drugs were affecting my life. I was just a bitter 91 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: ex boyfriend and I'm ashamed to say it takes enormous 92 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: effort to not rip the poster off the wall, precious paper, 93 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: Big day Out ticket in hand. On mope out of 94 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: the record shop, turn left and passing the newsagent next door, 95 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: there's a thought buy a lotto ticket? What buy a 96 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: lotto ticket? It was so unusual. I took pause, much 97 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: like I will do right now, to earn some actual 98 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: revenue rather than the fantasy money of lotto back in 99 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: a moment, I found myself on that Brisbane afternoon, standing 100 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: outside the news agent with my brain going, hey, buy 101 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: a load of ticket and that's completely out of the ordinary, 102 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: because I never buy a lotto tickets. Loto is a 103 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: tax on the poor. It's a lie. We tell to 104 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: the thong slappers that they'll be living a life of 105 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: jet skis and surgically risky after market aesthetic upgrades if 106 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: they just picked the right numbers. But we all know 107 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: even if they win that within a few years they'll 108 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: have lost the lot. I was yet to fall down 109 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: the slippery slope of gambling, but at this point I 110 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: was snobby above it. Still I knew enough to listen 111 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: to that voice without hesitation. I step into the news agent, 112 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: hand over my cash, and I asked the man for 113 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: a five dollar quick pick please. He slaps a button 114 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: and making an always like a blowfly trapped against a window, 115 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: the machine prints out some random numbers with fingers stained 116 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: yellow from cigarettes. He slides over the ticket and I'm 117 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: back on my way almost with that breaking stamp. Now 118 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: I've been flicked from resin dogs for the first time 119 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: in about ten years. I'm not in a band, and 120 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm starting to understand that a bass player without a 121 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: band is a lonely man. All it ever done is 122 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: play music. And this breaks me so I throw myself 123 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: into work. The casual radio gig i'd done for the 124 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: last few years signs me up as a full time 125 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: overnight announcer, which means I spend midnight to six am, 126 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: Sunday night to Saturday morning trying to convince the fellows 127 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: Zombifire Brisbane Nites to keep listening because another Selen Beyond 128 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: song is coming right up. I learned a lot, and 129 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: a few years of it helped me get pretty good, 130 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: but it was fucking brutal. And that's not just the celendion. 131 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: I missed being on stage, and I missed making music 132 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: on a day off when I didn't know if I 133 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: was awake or asleep. My girlfriend at the time seize 134 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: the Loto ticket on the fridge, Hey did you check 135 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: these numbers? No? No, I hadn't. I shuffle off to 136 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: the shop, grab a newspaper, shuffle home again. Now I 137 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: have a hard time reading numbers. When I did maths 138 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: at school, I remember them wandering around the blackboard like 139 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: butterflies as I tried to understand what a quadratic equation 140 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: is and why the fuck do I need to know 141 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: what a quadratic equation is? The first time I checked 142 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: my ticket, I count four numbers that are the same. Oh. 143 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: I check it again. Ah, there's only three. Check it again, 144 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: there's five. Hang on, then there's three. A second ago. 145 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: I go over it a few more times and I 146 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: count five numbers again, again and again. Five numbers means 147 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: I have won a portion of the Division III prize 148 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: pool two thousand, seven hundred and sixty two dollars. Holy shit, 149 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: two seven hundred and sixty two dollars. It's a huge 150 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: amount of money. When I tell my girlfriend I want 151 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: to use the money to get some music hear so 152 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: I can start making hip hop, She's very supportive. I 153 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: drop about a grand on a PC and a dial 154 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: up modem. The kind of makes a noise to get 155 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: you on the internet, The kind of noise that sounds 156 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: like it's trying to play a recorder with an AM 157 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: radio while throwing a xylophone down a stairwell. Walking into 158 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: the music junction with the leftover loot fifteen hundred dollars 159 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: is burning a hole in my pocket as I peruse 160 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: the largest selection of drum machines, keyboards and sequences in Brisbane. 161 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: But this time I'm not there. Fantasizing after years of 162 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: being a povo muso able to afford the gear I wanted, 163 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: I can finally buy the thing I need to make 164 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: the music I want to make. I felt like I'd 165 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: won the lotto after anything in particular. Mate, Yes, I'm 166 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: looking to get myself set up with a sampler. Right, 167 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: what kind of music hip hop? I want to make? Beats? Well, 168 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: there's only one thing in the AKI MPC two thousand. 169 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: He gestures to a box shaped device with a large 170 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: LCD screen, two knobs, and sixteen square pads on the 171 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: front of it. If electric guitars were never invented, we 172 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: would not know rock and roll. Without this, the AQIMPC, 173 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: we would not have hip hop as we know it. 174 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: This piece of all in one Japanese genius is singularly 175 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: responsible for an entire genre of music. The ability to 176 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: easily sample, cut up, and loop a record to create 177 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: something entirely new had never existed within a singular, intuitive 178 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: and easy years machine. Doctor Dre De Las Old, Pete 179 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: Rock jay Z, every absolute banger from those guys was 180 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: put together on this all in one workstation. With a 181 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: retail price of thirteen hundred dollars, it was perfect, except 182 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: that my ego got involved. Can I plug a keyboard 183 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: into that? No, no, you can't, mate. I don't push 184 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: buttons to make music. I'm not operating a lift. Any 185 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: Bevin can push a button now. I was the access 186 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: servo snacks after midnight. I'm a musician. I play music. 187 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: Not only do I play bass, I'm an excellent piano player. 188 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: My fingering is spectacular. I need other people to see 189 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: me playing a keyboard so they know I'm a great musician. No, 190 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: I will not try to make hip hop on this 191 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: machine specifically designed to make hip hop, sir. I will 192 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: buy the other sampler and plug a keyboard into it 193 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: so I can play keyboard and people can watch me 194 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: do it. Are you sure, mate, you said you wanted 195 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: to make hip hop hang on which you win resin dogs. 196 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: I sold Dave and Catch one of these each two 197 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: weeks ago. Yes, I am sure. He was trying hard 198 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: to sell me a beat machine, but actually I wanted 199 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: to buy a validation machine, something which played chords while 200 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: I looked clever. Regardless, he's a salesman, so he shrugged, 201 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: took my cash and sent me on my way. I 202 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: take it all home. I plug it all in, and 203 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: I'm on my way to becoming the third chemical brother. 204 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: Knowing full well that I'd purchased the wrong kind of 205 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: gear to make the music I was trying to make 206 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: didn't stop me from then attempting to make that music. 207 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: I try in vain a fuck about with sampling beats 208 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: on this tiny screen editing those samples with one knob, 209 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: needing the PC to play a sequence without which the 210 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: samples don't fire, and nothing makes any noise. All of 211 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: these things that are part of the the intuitive workflow 212 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: of the MPC two thousand, the machine that is still 213 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: in the box back at the shop. It was the 214 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: musical equivalent of trying to trim a hedge with a lawnmower, 215 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: incredibly inefficient and clearly the wrong tool for the job, 216 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: but I persisted. After an entire week, frustratingly twiddling knobs 217 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: and smashing buttons, I managed to create just four bars 218 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: of poorly quantized music. It was a real moment where 219 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: I still had enough connections in the bris music saying 220 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: to have legitimately started something with this sample based music 221 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm trying to make. After a while, it's all too hard, 222 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: and I sit down to write music less and less, 223 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: eventually drifting away from that and towards my upwardly training 224 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: career in radio and television. I never make that album, 225 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: but I am obtusely responsible for someone who does. And 226 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: I'll tell you the rest of that story after this. 227 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: In the haze of working on Australian idol through my 228 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: other job in music television, I'm involved in a huge 229 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: national campaign with Nutrograin, somehow agreeing to be the face 230 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: of a software sampling program called Andrew G's Music Maker. 231 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: Hundreds of thousands of CD ROMs with my face on 232 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: it are stuck to the front of Cereal boxes and 233 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: sent across the country. Writing the story, I remembered that 234 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: I never got paid for that. A campaign like that 235 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: was easily worth half a million bucks in pre GFCTV money. 236 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: To be fair, at the time, I didn't know I 237 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: could have asked for any money. Many years past and 238 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: my sense of self worth eventually improves. And two whole 239 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: decades after I tried to attempt the musical equivalent of 240 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: buttering bread with a chainsaw, I'm driving through Sydney listening 241 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: to Triple J and they play all thirteen minutes of 242 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: Pink Floyd's shine on You Crazy Diamond in the middle 243 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: of the day. That's pretty wild even for them. Zan 244 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: row Back announces and tells me that song was requested 245 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: by the brilliant Australian artist Flume, who was there in 246 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: the studio, and she asks, how did you get started 247 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: in electronic music so young? Most of the gear you 248 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: need that's pretty expensive. Sitting at the lights on Castle 249 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: Hill Road, I hear this multi platinum artist say in 250 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: a charmingly kind voice. When I was about fourteen, Mom 251 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: came home from the shops with a box of cereal, 252 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: had a CD rominate. It was a sampler and sequencing 253 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: program called Andrew G's Music, and at first I made 254 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: all my music with that. A few months later Flume 255 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: would go on to win a Grammy. Until that exact 256 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: moment in the car, I carried so much anger and 257 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: regret for being a stone fuck with or worse, being 258 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: a sober idiot who just happened to be high. For 259 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: blind my shot were the resin dogs for my ego, 260 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: sabotaging my music career by winning the light I when 261 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: buying the musical equivalent of a chocolate teapot. For years 262 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: spent too busy performing as a musician instead of actually 263 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: being one, and for allowing myself to be exploited in 264 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: the way that I was. I'd never forgiven myself for 265 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: treating fortune knocking at my door as if it were 266 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: a weirdo from a cult like the Jiver's Witnesses or 267 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: the Mormons or Save the Children. Yet hearing the joy 268 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: and the light in Flume's voice that day, knowing the 269 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: success he's had, and in my opinion that his music 270 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: is actually pretty good on a weekday afternoon in Castle Hill, 271 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: every one of those shitty feelings vanish in an instant. 272 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: You know what's funny. I'm sitting here reading of that, 273 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: and on my desk I've got there's two keyboards, I'm 274 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: looking at four guitars, at ukulele, a melodica. I'll win 275 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: some DJ Decks music still in my life. I hope 276 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: you enjoyed that. It's just a sample sort of thing 277 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: that happens every month. 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