Speaker 1: We love it doing a segment called Probe the Pope,
Speaker 1: where we're joined by different officers of different areas of
Speaker 1: the Victorian Police. But today we got the top cart.
Speaker 2: Jason Lawrence, Croo.
Speaker 1: Shane Patten, Welcome to the show. Good morning, Good.
Speaker 3: Morning morning, Jason, morning Lauren. I have never heard that
Speaker 3: music in my life.
Speaker 4: I greet you when you roll into work police.
Speaker 3: No, but I think i'll start. It's not a bad
Speaker 3: way to be greeted.
Speaker 2: Just very quickly true or false? Chief Commissioner Popo? You
Speaker 2: didn't know what popo meant?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got to get out more, obviously.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 5: My media director the other day was speaking to me
Speaker 5: about Pope and she said, oh, they're all talking about
Speaker 5: this is what's popo?
Speaker 3: And just anyway, I've got to get out more.
Speaker 4: Have a think about rebuking the song the po po
Speaker 4: shut us down down, different demographic.
Speaker 1: Maybe look at a rebrand on the cop carts, take
Speaker 1: off police, put on paper. Hey Shane, we appreciate your time, mate,
Speaker 1: We know you an incredibly busy man. First issue we
Speaker 1: want to talk about you've been leading the news with
Speaker 1: it this morning.
Speaker 2: Cramp and West. Shane Patton, the Constable one of your
Speaker 2: own recovering in hospital after he was allegedly stabbed while
Speaker 2: responded to an agberg an Agberg which apparently wasn't an
Speaker 2: agberg as it turns out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, really upsetting.
Speaker 5: Obviously, we had a unit responded in Creanbourne West last
Speaker 5: night after five I think it was the responding to
Speaker 5: a call of a burglary that had been committed there.
Speaker 5: We'll be alleging the person who actually reported the burglary
Speaker 5: then committed an attack on one of our officers and stabbed.
Speaker 3: Them in thigh.
Speaker 1: And how what was this book?
Speaker 5: The alleged defenders around eighteen I think, and the constable involved. Fortunately,
Speaker 5: you know, they drew their firearms, accorded on him to
Speaker 5: drop the knife and he did, and then obviously the
Speaker 5: rest of the troops turned up and.
Speaker 3: We took him.
Speaker 5: Our member went to hospital. Still in hospital with an
Speaker 5: injury to the thigh. He's in a stable condition. But
Speaker 5: it just goes to show there is no such thing
Speaker 5: as a routine response in policing, not at all.
Speaker 1: And hats after all the work the Victorian police do. Mate,
Speaker 1: It's incredible the job you guys do. Unfortunately, this just
Speaker 1: seems to be a story we're hearing quite often youth
Speaker 1: crime in Melbourne. We're frustrated hearing about it. Are you
Speaker 1: frustrated catching these offenders and then seeing them back out
Speaker 1: on the streets.
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 5: Look, we look after what we can look after the
Speaker 5: last crime statistics, and whenever I talk about statistics, they're
Speaker 5: not just statistics, they're people. And I want to acknowledge
Speaker 5: that we charged over around sixty eight thousand people last
Speaker 5: rolling twelve months. We in the last year of charged
Speaker 5: fifteen hundred people related to aggravated burglaries and theft of
Speaker 5: car at night, those sneaking aggravated burglaries.
Speaker 3: It's a key focus for us.
Speaker 1: Which is my biggest fear. I've got three young kids
Speaker 1: in the house. I'm absolutely paranoid about it. But then
Speaker 1: we see these people. I think we're sick of hearing
Speaker 1: re offenders, reoffenders, reoffenders. Where is the breakdown? Is it
Speaker 1: the courts?
Speaker 5: Well, there's a couple of things there, Joseph, I can
Speaker 5: step through. We had a recent change and amendment in
Speaker 5: the legislation, so that aggravated burglary if you get done
Speaker 5: for that or that's high and offending.
Speaker 3: Now I think it's going to come in the next
Speaker 3: week or two or whatever.
Speaker 5: It'll be coming to Royal Assent, whereby.
Speaker 3: We'll be able to.
Speaker 5: Take a much more forward leaning approach to reminding people
Speaker 5: who need to be reminded, who at risk of committing
Speaker 5: these things.
Speaker 1: Way, someone breaking into my house when I got three
Speaker 1: young kids there needs to be locked up full stop.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would agree with you.
Speaker 5: And so that's the approach we'll be taking, will be
Speaker 5: making sure that we remind as many people who are
Speaker 5: committing these high and fences can be So that's a
Speaker 5: good thing that will be occurring. We think that'll make
Speaker 5: a real difference in what's been going on in terms
Speaker 5: of that aggravated burglary. Can I just say, and I
Speaker 5: don't say this to try and minimize it, but the
Speaker 5: vast majority of these are sneak in aggravator burglaries at night.
Speaker 5: It's over ninety five percent of them. There's no confrontation,
Speaker 5: but to have your house violated is absolutely horrendous.
Speaker 3: That's why we're so focused on it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's terrifying, but I mean Melbournians are so frustrated,
Speaker 4: right and I feel for the police because you guys
Speaker 4: do such an amazing job, and we see things like
Speaker 4: what happened last night where our police force and our
Speaker 4: police officers are putting their lives on the line to
Speaker 4: catch these guys. Do you feel like you're just banging
Speaker 4: your head against a wall when you do all the work,
Speaker 4: you catch them, You sit there doing all the paperwork,
Speaker 4: and then you find out they're back out on the
Speaker 4: streets the next day.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Sentencing and all of those matters have always been a
Speaker 5: matter for the courts lur and it's something that you know,
Speaker 5: even since I was a constable, which is some time
Speaker 5: I go back now, it's always been a concern for
Speaker 5: my members, for myself. But you can control what you
Speaker 5: can control, and that is we'll keep locking them up,
Speaker 5: we'll keep charging, and we are having huge successes in
Speaker 5: terms of the arrest. We know predominantly who these offenders are.
Speaker 5: And I think, as I said, those legislative changes that
Speaker 5: are coming in for people charge with the aggravated burglary,
Speaker 5: that dangerous driving where if they're an unacceptable risk of
Speaker 5: committing another offense they go in, that's what I think
Speaker 5: that's going to be a real big change that's going
Speaker 5: to occur here.
Speaker 4: Do you think it will actually help.
Speaker 1: I just want to say, I don't think we're questioning
Speaker 1: the work you guys do it because, if anything, we're
Speaker 1: frustrated for the police. The amount of work you guys
Speaker 1: are putting in is a lot of the And you
Speaker 1: might not be able to comment on this, but a
Speaker 1: lot of the reason these kids are back on the
Speaker 1: streets around jails fault is that the problem.
Speaker 3: No, no, jails aren't full, youth justice isn't full. Courts have.
Speaker 5: A difficult balancing act, a difficult balancing act. No one
Speaker 5: wants to be locking up kids, but some kids who
Speaker 5: are committing those highing defenses need to be remanded and
Speaker 5: have their issues.
Speaker 2: Obviously there's also an issue of rehabilitation, right.
Speaker 1: But obviously, obviously the fear isn't there. If I'm an
Speaker 1: eighteen year old kid and I'm out with my mates
Speaker 1: and we're looking at a househould we bloody go iman mw.
Speaker 1: Obviously the fear isn't.
Speaker 2: Part of this justice reform, which is just past the
Speaker 2: Upper House in Victorian Parliament, also includes the potential for
Speaker 2: ankle bracelets, I believe as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a whole what will be the term raft
Speaker 5: of reforms that the governments bring in. One of them
Speaker 5: is looking at a trial where they put ankle bracelets
Speaker 5: on fifty kids who otherwise might might have had any
Speaker 5: bail conditions, or otherwise they might have gone in, but
Speaker 5: to geofence them at home sort of thing overnight that'll
Speaker 5: come in in due course. That's another good initiative to
Speaker 5: look at to see where that makes a difference. But
Speaker 5: we do work with government where we have a lot
Speaker 5: of input in relation to legislative reforms. And as I said,
Speaker 5: this most recent one we think real positive. But it's
Speaker 5: getting that balance right. It's the primary thing has to
Speaker 5: be about community safety. There has to be about people
Speaker 5: feeling safe and being safe.
Speaker 4: Do you think these kids are too protected? Because I
Speaker 4: know we've all got rights and we all get treated
Speaker 4: the same way. But if you if you offend time
Speaker 4: and time and time again, surely you lose some of
Speaker 4: those same rights that law abiding citizens.
Speaker 3: Have absolutely naurn.
Speaker 5: And I think I think we'll start and see that
Speaker 5: now emerging with these new bail reforms, that community safety
Speaker 5: is primacy and time and time and time again will
Speaker 5: mean that people should have bail refused.
Speaker 2: Just a quick one. Shane Patton Jack's Law is a
Speaker 2: law that's passed in Queensland. I think it's a good one.
Speaker 2: Retailer is liable now for the sale of knives to minors.
Speaker 2: Does something similar exists here in Victoria?
Speaker 3: Do you know?
Speaker 2: Because knife crime is unfortunately on the increase.
Speaker 5: It may feel that way, It's actually not right it.
Speaker 5: It's remained pretty stable here, but nonetheless we are seeing
Speaker 5: significant injuries and we're seeing more young people carry knives,
Speaker 5: and it's a real area focus for us. I mean,
Speaker 5: it seems every second time we apprehend someone they've got
Speaker 5: a large knife or a small machete or something like that.
Speaker 5: But the law is they can't be sold to mine
Speaker 5: as It's as simple as that.
Speaker 3: And you can when.
Speaker 1: You say you can't tell the night like are we
Speaker 1: talking like can I a seventeen year old go in
Speaker 1: a big w and by a cut reset or are
Speaker 1: we talking more like hunting knives and stuff?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking.
Speaker 5: We're talking hunting knives, we're talking machetes, controlled weapons at
Speaker 5: a hunting store. But the reality is there are significant
Speaker 5: penalties that you can get put in jail for up
Speaker 5: to a year for having a controlled weapon in public
Speaker 5: if you've got no excuse to have it, and that's
Speaker 5: a knife.
Speaker 4: Shane Melbournians are scared. My friends are scared. My friends
Speaker 4: with kids, friends who park their cars in their driveways
Speaker 4: are scared. What can we do to protect ourselves and
Speaker 4: to keep our homes safe because people are going to
Speaker 4: bed at night terrified.
Speaker 1: You got a spare set a cuff chicken through me,
Speaker 1: not fuffy.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to touch that.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 5: On a serious note, we know that when these young kids,
Speaker 5: when we're apprehending them generally young kids, and they've been
Speaker 5: out and they've been involved in these sneaking aggravatord burglaries.
Speaker 3: And this is not about victim blaming.
Speaker 5: Let me say that with a cavet that they move
Speaker 5: along the street until they actually find an open door,
Speaker 5: an open window, or go through an open garage. So
Speaker 5: it's the simple things. First of all. It's just making
Speaker 5: sure you know your gates locked, your doors are locked,
Speaker 5: and that sort of thing, and generally speaking, that will
Speaker 5: be enough to deter someone coming in.
Speaker 1: We had a couple of blokes jumping the fence at
Speaker 1: our place recently and ransacked my car and I was
Speaker 1: talking to the cops that attended the scene afterwards, and
Speaker 1: I was saying, you know what about cameras, are they
Speaker 1: deterring kids these days? And the cops that I was
Speaker 1: chatting to were like, to be honest, it's more sensor
Speaker 1: lights and stuff that light up the front yard and
Speaker 1: then deter them to go somewhere else.
Speaker 4: And dogs knocking dogs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nosolutely.
Speaker 5: Dogs sense like when someone's disturbed, generally speaking, they'll run
Speaker 5: and move on to the next place or whatever.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 5: Cameras are a good thing as well. It allows us
Speaker 5: to identify who they.
Speaker 3: Are, but it's just doing the basics.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's terrible that, as you say, Lauren,
Speaker 5: that people feel that way, but I understand it given
Speaker 5: the significant amount of these sneak and aggravated burglars we've had.
Speaker 5: I've said this many times, but I think it's important
Speaker 5: to say it again. We are throwing everything we can
Speaker 5: at this Operation Trinity. Over the last year, we've arrested,
Speaker 5: you know, around fifteen hundred offenders for these aggravated burglaries
Speaker 5: and related theft of motor car. Our Earwing's out there
Speaker 5: each night. Dog Squad, Public Order Response Team Detectives, uniform
Speaker 5: members and generally we'll have the air wing up and
Speaker 5: we will apprehend these these offenders generally most of the time.
Speaker 4: I've got no doubt, no doubt, you guys are doing
Speaker 4: an unbelievable job, and I think that's obviously the big
Speaker 4: issue is the court system. But if you think that
Speaker 4: these changes are going to help them, hopefully that helps
Speaker 4: us all With.
Speaker 1: We're on the air with Police Commissioner Shane Patton this morning. Shane,
Speaker 1: if you can hang around, We've got to take a
Speaker 1: quick break, but we've got a few more things for you.
Speaker 1: We are probing the Popo this morning. That's Police Shane
Speaker 1: here on. No officers ever get star struck. If you
Speaker 1: go through an RBT the window goes down, they're like,
Speaker 1: oh jeezkod a, boss. You know how it works.
Speaker 5: I actually did a couple of months ago. I was
Speaker 5: helping someone move and just wheeling through in a ute
Speaker 5: or whatever and got pushed in and the window came
Speaker 5: down and they've gone hi, boss, Boss. I said hi,
Speaker 5: and just one deep breath, the hand went through the window.
Speaker 3: It's okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're in more trouble if you let me go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to do a Chief commission We've got
Speaker 2: a call on the line. Nicole from Mount Waverley. Good
Speaker 2: morning to you. You're on the line with the Chief
Speaker 2: commission You got a.
Speaker 6: Question hybrid morning two. Commissioner. How are you doing?
Speaker 3: Good morning to Carl. I'm doing well, that's good.
Speaker 6: I just had a question. Understand that this aggravated burglaries
Speaker 6: are quite the common place at the moment. What are
Speaker 6: your thoughts on maybe some sort of reverse bychology or
Speaker 6: an ad campaign that says to the purpose, Hey, you know,
Speaker 6: you enter at your own risk, but everybody has a
Speaker 6: right to defend their homes and their families.
Speaker 1: Well, the common question, I reckon you'd hear a lot
Speaker 1: is what can we do in the house to protect
Speaker 1: ourselves here?
Speaker 5: Thanks to Colin and Jase, I think that's probably the
Speaker 5: better point. Yeah, obviously from our point of view, we
Speaker 5: say avoid confrontation.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I don't know if this is the right thing
Speaker 1: to do, but now I leave the car keys near
Speaker 1: the front door. Well yeah, with the notes saying enjoy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a couple of things there.
Speaker 5: I mean, so avoid the confrontation if someone breaks in,
Speaker 5: if you can go to a safe area and just
Speaker 5: call the police and let us deal with it right.
Speaker 5: If you are confronted though, and you're not a position
Speaker 5: to do that, obviously you can act to defend yourself
Speaker 5: solong it's proportionate and what you're doing in relation to
Speaker 5: the threat that occurs.
Speaker 1: I know that you know what. I'll be honest. I've
Speaker 1: had this conversation with people before. Right someone broke in,
Speaker 1: I found some blake in one of my kids bedrooms,
Speaker 1: I'd go to town. I would go to town until
Speaker 1: they are out on the floor, and then I know
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Then it's got to be in proportion.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what. I wouldn't want him getting
Speaker 1: up in that room.
Speaker 5: And that's why you know, I can't sit here and
Speaker 5: say what you can and can't do other than it
Speaker 5: has to be, you know, proportionate to the response that
Speaker 5: you're facing and the threat you're facing.
Speaker 3: And we all perceive threats differently. That's the reality.
Speaker 4: Someone's in your child's bedroom.
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm going to town, And there are all the
Speaker 5: factors you take into account. But as I said, each
Speaker 5: circumstance is different. In regards to the keys, the main
Speaker 5: thing I would say is don't leave them so that
Speaker 5: if someone was walking past the window they could see them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want to be inviting people to come in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But I've got friends who are leaving
Speaker 4: their keys in their car. If they've got a car
Speaker 4: in a driveway that you can see so you know
Speaker 4: it's a luxury car, it's in the driveway. Not every
Speaker 4: house has huge gates or undercover garage, and they leave
Speaker 4: their keys in the car because they would rather these
Speaker 4: people drive away in their car than break into their
Speaker 4: house to get the keyscourage to risk of their family
Speaker 4: getting hurt.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I'm not an advocate of that one, Lauren, and I
Speaker 5: understand to a degree why they would do that. But
Speaker 5: you should be locking your car, if you lock your doors,
Speaker 5: you lock your windows, and just take the normal steps
Speaker 5: that people would stay take. Most of the time, they're
Speaker 5: going to move on and go to a different house.
Speaker 1: Are you shocked by the amount of home invasions that
Speaker 1: occur on homes that weren't actually locked in the first place.
Speaker 5: I was, I'm not anymore because we keep banging on
Speaker 5: about it, and it's not to blame people for doing it.
Speaker 1: No, No, it's surprising how many people don't their I'm isn't
Speaker 1: it always at each other about it. I don't care
Speaker 1: if it's two o'clock in the afternoon. Lock the bloody door.
Speaker 3: It blows my mind.
Speaker 5: I don't know how you could feel safe going yeh,
Speaker 5: knowing if someone could walk along the street and come
Speaker 5: in and you know what, I'm sah, and it blows
Speaker 5: my mind.
Speaker 1: Shane Patton's on the morning. Sorry, Lesko, just quickly.
Speaker 4: Is Melbourne a safe place to live?
Speaker 3: Yeah? It is? It is.
Speaker 5: It is really an amazingly safe place to live, and
Speaker 5: which may seem sort of strange when we're having this
Speaker 5: discussion about aggravated burglars and people sneaking and at night,
Speaker 5: but when you compare it to other jurisdictions around the world,
Speaker 5: you compare it to other jurisdictions in Australia, we are
Speaker 5: really well placed. By and large, it is a very
Speaker 5: very safe place to live and work. And you know
Speaker 5: it's I think that's all I can say to you.
Speaker 5: By and large, that is the case. Have we got issues, absolutely,
Speaker 5: I'm not in denial about that.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, there's a caller sitting on
Speaker 1: hold at the moment who would probably disagree with you.
Speaker 1: We're on the air with Shane Patten, Police Commissioner. This morning,
Speaker 1: we're going to go to Imagine Dragons and come back
Speaker 1: with one last chat next Jason Lawrence Crove. Very special morning.
Speaker 1: We don't normally spend this long, but we've got the
Speaker 1: top cop in here this morning. Commissioner Shane Patton, thanks
Speaker 1: so much for hanging out with us this morning. We'll
Speaker 1: let you go because we know you're a extremely busy man.
Speaker 1: Do you still cruise around Mark copp car? Have you
Speaker 1: got little flags on the front being the top cop
Speaker 1: or anything.
Speaker 3: There's no presidential type thing.
Speaker 5: I get out about though each now and then, like
Speaker 5: each three or four months, when I can, I get
Speaker 5: out and do a patrol with someone I was out
Speaker 5: standing on the other week, just to keep in touch
Speaker 5: with reality as well and what the members are feeling
Speaker 5: and experiencing.
Speaker 3: Realizes how how much pressure they're under. That's good. I
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 4: But are you in a normal police car like when
Speaker 4: you drove into Nova this morning? If you saw someone
Speaker 4: pick up their mobile phone, for instance, are you like
Speaker 4: sirens on?
Speaker 3: Pull them over?
Speaker 1: Here's his gold I saw it parked out the front.
Speaker 5: It's an un marked car, but it has sirens and yeah,
Speaker 5: all the things.
Speaker 3: Should be able to use, all the bells and whistles.
Speaker 4: All the buttons. That's all we wanted to know to
Speaker 4: get the sirens and the buttons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thirteen twenty fourteen is our number to join us
Speaker 1: on the air. We've had a lot of calls from
Speaker 1: people who.
Speaker 3: Are unfortunate calls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have been victims of youth crime here in Melbourne. Cash,
Speaker 1: good morning, Good morning. What was your situation?
Speaker 7: So last year it was around Good Friday, Easter holidays.
Speaker 7: My partner and our friends we went to the pancakes
Speaker 7: parlor and we're walking back to the car and up
Speaker 7: ahead we see a young guy with the machete and
Speaker 7: he was aiming towards us and chasing us for.
Speaker 1: Us, now, directions and what time this is during the day.
Speaker 7: This was around eight thirty nine o'clock at night, yeah, right,
Speaker 7: and we were running back inside. I quickly saw the
Speaker 7: security guard and told him to quickly bring the police.
Speaker 7: And obviously with the shopping center at night, a lot
Speaker 7: of places were closed, so we didn't know where to go.
Speaker 7: And the young excuse me, the young managed to run
Speaker 7: towards us, but he was exhausted in the end because
Speaker 7: we realized he was in chased by like a drug
Speaker 7: dealer or some baby guy.
Speaker 1: Like this stuff doesn't surprise you though, that's happening on
Speaker 1: the streets, like at eight thirty at night, just in
Speaker 1: the burbs.
Speaker 5: No, no, it doesn't surprise me, but I think importantly
Speaker 5: And thanks for sharing that, Tash. I mean, obviously very
Speaker 5: upsetting experience for yourself. But often we see that these
Speaker 5: parties are known to each other, and as Tash alluded to,
Speaker 5: there there's a drug dealer involved with someone else. It's
Speaker 5: we do have random attacks, so I won't hide that,
Speaker 5: but often parties are known to each other when they're
Speaker 5: engaging in you know, warring groups and things like that.
Speaker 5: But any incident is obviously not an acceptable No, not
Speaker 5: at all.
Speaker 1: That's the most frightening though. When I hear it's a
Speaker 1: random attack, that scares Yeah.
Speaker 5: Which is why we focus in the city and have
Speaker 5: extra numbers there and out in patrol and visible.
Speaker 3: We'll keep doing what we can.
Speaker 5: It's a real focus for us, Shane.
Speaker 3: Have we got enough?
Speaker 4: Have we got enough in the police force? I know
Speaker 4: we had some recruits in the other day who said
Speaker 4: they've recently joined the police force and they love it.
Speaker 4: How numbers going in the police force because it seems
Speaker 4: like quite a scary job.
Speaker 5: It's a great job. It can have its moment. So
Speaker 5: like anything, we are still recruiting heavily. So this is
Speaker 5: a fantastic Segwe thank you, Lauren. We are wanting people
Speaker 5: to apply and join right now. We still have we're around,
Speaker 5: you know, six or seven hundred below what we should
Speaker 5: be because post COVID no one could go on holidays.
Speaker 5: You know, we had, you know, all this mass retirement.
Speaker 5: Because people have this superannuation. They want to go traveling,
Speaker 5: put and go anywhere. So we are trying to recruit heavily.
Speaker 3: At the moment.
Speaker 4: We had like an amazing job.
Speaker 1: Mature age recruits in a couple of weeks ago. The
Speaker 1: only thing this is a suggestion. You guys are running
Speaker 1: it pretty well there, but just a suggestion. Shane, So
Speaker 1: I know you finished the academy. You normally get posted
Speaker 1: sometimes in a regional station. I've actually you've got a
Speaker 1: couple of mates who would be in their thirties who
Speaker 1: would be open to looking at the police force. But
Speaker 1: they sit there and go I've already got two kids,
Speaker 1: I can't relocate my family for two years to a
Speaker 1: regional town. No exactly. That's moving kids' schools and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. Is there any way you could look at,
Speaker 1: you know, for mature age officers that want to get
Speaker 1: into it, not relocating families regionally.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we call it the ballot or whatever, where you
Speaker 5: might get vested somewhere up the country where you didn't
Speaker 5: want to get to.
Speaker 1: But that's the reason that's holding them back from the
Speaker 1: hand up.
Speaker 5: I'd never so I've taken something out of coming here
Speaker 5: this morning, not that I haven't before this, but in
Speaker 5: terms of whether we actually segment like a mature age
Speaker 5: recruit and say well, we will make an exception for
Speaker 5: you because you're a circumstance of different.
Speaker 1: I've literally got two mates that are dead man on
Speaker 1: the police force. But that is the one thing that's
Speaker 1: holding them back. Their partners are like, Babe, we can't
Speaker 1: pull the kids out of school and move to Shepherdon.
Speaker 3: Already.
Speaker 5: It's an area we're constantly looking at, and we have
Speaker 5: a range of exemptions that can apply in all of
Speaker 5: those things, but certainly from mature age that's something that
Speaker 5: I hadn't thought through, so you can.
Speaker 2: I ask about one very small issue, and that is
Speaker 2: scooters in the city. Where do you sit on scooters?
Speaker 2: Because I know the Lord Mayor has in fact decided
Speaker 2: to outlaw them.
Speaker 3: I don't sit on scooter.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 5: No, We've seen a lot of injuries from We have
Speaker 5: a real lot of injuries from them, a lot of
Speaker 5: non compliance and everything like that. So there matters for
Speaker 5: government and the Lord Mayor. But I'm not worried about
Speaker 5: the fact that he's banning them.
Speaker 1: Okay, right in your mind, you it's going to make
Speaker 1: me a bit easier for you.
Speaker 5: Well, we've seen I think you know, we've had a
Speaker 5: lot of the major hospitals saying this, saying a lot
Speaker 5: of injuries arise from accidents.
Speaker 1: A final question, do you sit down on the couch
Speaker 1: and watch RBT? Do you like watching That's Man the Night?
Speaker 5: No, I watch garbageish in English cop shows.
Speaker 1: All right, you know what, let's sit down with shamee one. Right,
Speaker 1: you're right, Clint and watch RBT and c if Shane
Speaker 1: can pick it over runder. Yeah, just positive.
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me, really appreciate it was good fun.
Speaker 5: But just before I head off. I think congratulations in order,
Speaker 5: aren't they. You're the number one ranking breakfast show on FM,
Speaker 5: is it?
Speaker 3: Thank you, Shane.
Speaker 1: We're were shocked as you are.
Speaker 3: What is it that seems the product was better?
Speaker 1: Thank you mate, he's good.
Speaker 3: He got the dig in at the end. Thanks and
Speaker 3: his arms.
Speaker 1: So the old can't come after it. Honestly, we really
Speaker 1: made it. We we love doing the popos. The Victorian
Speaker 1: Police doing our standing job and we met some great
Speaker 1: members of the force. So thanks for the work you
Speaker 1: guys do.
Speaker 4: Mate, Thank you everything you do.
Speaker 5: It's police yeah poo, I've got the music to thank you.
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