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Speaker 1: This is the Fitty and Whipper with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump has won the White House. What's an historic comeback?

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Speaker 2: The first president to win a non consecutive race for

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Speaker 2: the White House since Grover Cleveland did it more than

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Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty years ago. This will forever be

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Speaker 2: remembered as the day the American people regained control of

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Speaker 2: their country.

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Speaker 3: Seventy one million votes went a Trump Kamala Harris's sixty

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Speaker 3: six million votes. It wasn't a weed as well that

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Speaker 3: he got up and spoke with his victory speech at

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Speaker 3: two thirty in the morning over there, but it was

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Speaker 3: prime time here in Australia and.

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Speaker 1: It was time he did it for us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone always got looking of others. One man who

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Speaker 3: is over there. He's been to numerous US elections for

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Speaker 3: the project. And you can catch the project six thirty

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Speaker 3: week nights on Channel ten. Is the magnificent Wallaide Lai. Welcome, Wallaid,

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Speaker 3: Hey hong on, huh.

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Speaker 1: Good mate, thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 3: Can I just say, Wallaid, how you are so diplomatic

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Speaker 3: in this in this situation is unbelievable. And you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean you've been to quite a few of these before.

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Speaker 3: But what we saw yesterday, I mean, you've got to

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Speaker 3: admit it will be known as one of the most

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Speaker 3: historic US elections of all time, won't it.

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Speaker 2: It will, and it might become even more historic as

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Speaker 2: the presidency unsold right, because who knows what the next

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Speaker 2: four years old. It's really weird thing that happens with

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump, which is there are kind of two views

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Speaker 2: of him. One is that he says all this crazy

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Speaker 2: stuff and he really means it, and the other is

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Speaker 2: he says all this crazy stuff which you can mostly ignore,

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Speaker 2: and then you focus on what he's really about, which

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Speaker 2: is like strong economy or whatever. And we might be

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Speaker 2: about to find out which version that is correct.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy, can I Riley? There's a abit going around

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Speaker 3: saying that there was more people than ever that registered

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Speaker 3: to vote in this US election, but there was twenty

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Speaker 3: million fewer votes than twenty twenty Do you know anything

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Speaker 3: about that?

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Speaker 2: I don't know any background as to like on specific numbers,

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Speaker 2: but that would actually quite a bit because one of

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Speaker 2: the things that I think we saw, which it didn't

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Speaker 2: look like was actually happening in the lead up to

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Speaker 2: the election, but it definitely seems that way now. Was

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Speaker 2: that Trump was able to infuse people to come out

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Speaker 2: and vote and Carmala Harris ultimately wasn't. Now that surprised

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Speaker 2: me because I expected, particularly the abortion issue, would be

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Speaker 2: such an energizer for the female vote. And it looks

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Speaker 2: like Carmala did win the female vote pretty strongly. It's

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Speaker 2: just that they weren't in enormous but it wasn't like

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Speaker 2: overwhelming numbers. But you know who really did turn out

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Speaker 2: was rural Americans and they have for the longest time

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Speaker 2: and will continue to vote Republican. And that's true whether

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Speaker 2: it's Old Trump or someone else. But Donald Trump clearly

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Speaker 2: has managed to speak to them and then and pull

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Speaker 2: them out for him. And then the other thing he

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Speaker 2: did was he just peeled off really crucial little bit.

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Speaker 2: So there's been a lot of talk about black men

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Speaker 2: voting for Donald Trump. That don't get me wrong, they

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Speaker 2: mostly vote Democrat. That's but just in smaller numbers than

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Speaker 2: you expected, and that seemed to show up. We have

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Speaker 2: to wait for final numbers, but that seemed to show

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Speaker 2: up in places like Philadelphia and you know, those inner

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Speaker 2: city areas where he just did slightly better than he

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Speaker 2: did in twenty twenty and then the Latinovo it seems

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Speaker 2: to have been really really decisive, and that that's suscinating.

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Speaker 2: So the fact that Trump has won, what does it mean?

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Speaker 1: Americans are saying, what do they They've picked their guy,

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Speaker 1: this is who we want and this is what we

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Speaker 1: want to see unfold. What did they choose?

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Speaker 2: They're angry and they wanted life. They want life to

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Speaker 2: get better, and they feel like it's getting worse. And

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Speaker 2: in some ways, it's really as simple as that. When

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Speaker 2: I landed in America, the first date we went to

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Speaker 2: was Michigan and we drove we'll going to a college

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Speaker 2: football game. Actually, as it happened to speak to some people,

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Speaker 2: can highly recommend that. By the way, it's so one

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand people. Yeah, I know for college anyway. And

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Speaker 2: they were just we're driving them a highway out to

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Speaker 2: the stadium, and there are these billboards and all sorts

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Speaker 2: of billboards, but there was one that Trump had and

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Speaker 2: it just said are you better off? Question mark vote Trump?

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Speaker 2: Simple of that. And I remember looking at that and

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Speaker 2: going that is devastating. And I thought at that moment

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Speaker 2: he's going to win. And then I slowly changed my

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Speaker 2: mind as we got close to the election, and I

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Speaker 2: had just guessed probably Harris, but I ended up being

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Speaker 2: wrong about that, But that initial hunt was right. When

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Speaker 2: you're in America, Trump voting for Trump is a kind

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Speaker 2: of a normal thing because he's the Republican nominee, and

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Speaker 2: there are aho lot of people who are always going

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Speaker 2: to vote Republican, and you can put a pop plan up,

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Speaker 2: they will vote Republican. And then there are those who

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Speaker 2: are attracted to Donald Trump. And the basic fundamental elements

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Speaker 2: of the campaign remained pretty basic and fundamental, I think,

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Speaker 2: like economy, things like migration, and and when you're living

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Speaker 2: in Australia, you get distracted by a lot of sensational

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Speaker 2: stuff and that's there, and even in America, particularly Democrats

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Speaker 2: get distracted by that, but the fundamental stuff. So in

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Speaker 2: some ways America is saying it's really annoyed, and in

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Speaker 2: other ways it's not saying much different to what normally says,

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Speaker 2: which the economy matters.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what we were sort of saying earlier in

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Speaker 1: the show too, Why ladies, as we sit back here,

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Speaker 1: and it's very easy to judge because my values don't

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Speaker 1: align with Donald Trump. But I'm not living in middle

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Speaker 1: America either. So for me to cast my impression and

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Speaker 1: tell you how shocked I am that the world or

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Speaker 1: America considered this guy a leader is sort of a

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Speaker 1: little bit ignorant because I don't know the detail and

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Speaker 1: I'm not living the life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's also a matter of emphasis, right, so

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Speaker 2: you know, it was really fascinating. We were in Detroit,

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Speaker 2: that's where we first landed, and I don't know how

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Speaker 2: well you know Detroit, but there's like there's a river

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Speaker 2: and literally on the other side of the river is Canada, right,

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Speaker 2: And so you can go to a shopping mall and

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Speaker 2: run into Canadians because Canadians would come over and go shopping.

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Speaker 2: This will happened, and actually they would do that a

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Speaker 2: lot because it was always a lot cheaper to come

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Speaker 2: to Detroit and buy stuff. And our Tamerman was out

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Speaker 2: just chopping and talking to people, and you ran into

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Speaker 2: the Canadians and they said, yeah, we come here all

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Speaker 2: the time, but actually we've noticed it's much cheaper now,

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Speaker 2: so I don't know if it's worth coming now. That

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Speaker 2: is a really significant fact because that tells you about

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Speaker 2: the pressure that people will feel, like we do you

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Speaker 2: think we have a cost of living crisis. I can

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Speaker 2: tell you as someone who's had to go out and

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Speaker 2: buy breakfast every day because I don't have a kitchenette here.

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Speaker 2: It will shock you to hear it is hugely expensive.

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Speaker 2: It really is. And so it's bad news for Elbow.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you that because Trump won the White House,

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Speaker 2: but because if you're in government right now, you've got

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Speaker 2: to fight on your hands no matter where you are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that will be the tachnic that

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Speaker 3: Peter Darton and the Liberals will go into our election with.

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Speaker 2: Mate.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you time. Like I said, you've been to

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Speaker 3: a numerous US elections made and you can catch Y

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Speaker 3: Lead tonight on the Projects six point thirty on Channel ten.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for coming on the show.

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Speaker 2: Brother, Thanks for having me.

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