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Speaker 3: Crazy Crazy Crazy The Village Crazy Lay Podcast. Hello, gorgeous legends,
Speaker 3: and welcome to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady.
Speaker 2: I am so excited about this guest.
Speaker 3: Bridget Essalmont, is an intuitive entrepreneur, a best selling author,
Speaker 3: and founder of Bitty Tarot. I have had your tarot
Speaker 3: cards for years, and I've known about you and what you.
Speaker 2: Do for years. How did you get into taro?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it goes all the way back to the
Speaker 1: late nineteen ninety and this is when I just finished
Speaker 1: high school and I was going on an exchange to
Speaker 1: Germany with my best friend and we thought, oh, why
Speaker 1: don't we go and get a tower reading before we
Speaker 1: go to Germany. And so we found this little place
Speaker 1: in the Rocks in Sydney and we're walking up these
Speaker 1: creaky wooden stairs and starting to feel all very mysterious
Speaker 1: and a little bit spooky. And I walk into this
Speaker 1: dark room. This woman's like sitting there in the corner
Speaker 1: with her cards laid out in front of her, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, what am I getting
Speaker 1: myself into? But I sat down with her and asked her, like,
Speaker 1: what's going to happen when I go to Germany? And
Speaker 1: she starts pulling the cards and then she pulls the Emperor.
Speaker 1: She goes, ooh, you're going to fall in love, like
Speaker 1: there's his boyfriend. He's waiting for you. It's going to
Speaker 1: be amazing. And so, you know, I'm seventeen years old,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that sounds fantastic. Probably tell us to everyone,
Speaker 1: but hey, I'll buy into it. And then yeah, of
Speaker 1: course I go to Germany. I fall in love a
Speaker 1: few times and it was great done. And so then
Speaker 1: like that, I came back to Australia and I thought, wow,
Speaker 1: this is pretty cool. I'd love to learn how to
Speaker 1: do this and I could show off to my friends
Speaker 1: this like cool trick. But here's the thing. I've got
Speaker 1: my tarot cards. My mum gifted them to me. I
Speaker 1: started learning them, and then the more that I learned
Speaker 1: about the Taro, the more I realized that they were
Speaker 1: actually a really profound tool for transformation and for accessing intuition.
Speaker 1: It was so different to what I've seen like on movies,
Speaker 1: which was all about like fortune telling and mystery and
Speaker 1: you know, bad things happening. It was completely different to that.
Speaker 1: It was actually this really beautiful experience that I was
Speaker 1: having with the cards, and it was opening up all
Speaker 1: of these parts of myself that had been there for
Speaker 1: so long, like the spiritual aspects, the connection to the divine,
Speaker 1: connection to self and intuition, and it was all just
Speaker 1: like opening up as it's laid out there on the
Speaker 1: table in front of me.
Speaker 3: In what way can you explain? Because that's so interesting
Speaker 3: to me. I mean, I don't think I've ever really
Speaker 3: thought about it like that, Like, in what way did
Speaker 3: it sort of like reveal this part of you?
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, Like one of the things that I thought
Speaker 1: before I started reading Taro was I had to be
Speaker 1: psychic in order to read Taro. I needed to be
Speaker 1: able to see like speak to dead people. I had
Speaker 1: to see the future like perfectly. And I really thought
Speaker 1: that I needed to have these specific skills and gifts
Speaker 1: in order to be able to read Taro. And so
Speaker 1: when I started reading Taro, I did everything I could
Speaker 1: to like master it, master my psychic abilities. But over
Speaker 1: time I started to realize this actually isn't about like wrote,
Speaker 1: learning the cards. It's not like what I was doing
Speaker 1: at school and university and trying to read all of
Speaker 1: the books. This was actually something that needed to be
Speaker 1: felt and experienced. So then the more that I let
Speaker 1: my intuition come into play, the more I could see
Speaker 1: what was unfolding in the cards. So it actually turned
Speaker 1: out that instead of having to be psychic and gifted
Speaker 1: and so on to read Taro, the Taro itself was
Speaker 1: the thing that was helping me become more intuitive. Because
Speaker 1: if you think about Taro cards, it's seventy eight cards.
Speaker 1: Every card has this picture on it, It has this
Speaker 1: rich symbolism, you know, different stories, mythology, even connections to
Speaker 1: religion and other spiritual kind of philosophies. And when we're
Speaker 1: reading these cards, it's almost giving us direct access to
Speaker 1: this collective wisdom that's been created over time, but also
Speaker 1: to this individual wisdom that's our intuition and what's within ourselves.
Speaker 1: And so when we access Taro, were actually accessing these
Speaker 1: different parts of and wisdom, that collective wisdom and our
Speaker 1: inner wisdom, and that to me is just amazing and
Speaker 1: so powerful.
Speaker 3: I love that cards are probably I guess when people
Speaker 3: think about spirituality right and like you know, delving into
Speaker 3: their own spirituality. I know, for me, cards was like
Speaker 3: one of the first places I went because it's a tool,
Speaker 3: it's a really helpful, very fun as well, like it
Speaker 3: doesn't feel scary. There's nothing really about although unless like
Speaker 3: if you're doing Taro for the first time and you
Speaker 3: see like the death card or the tower or something
Speaker 3: come out and you're like, oh my fucking god, am
Speaker 3: I about to die? But outside of that, it's just
Speaker 3: like it's a fun almost like party game me kind
Speaker 3: of feeling. But I can understand like that the sort
Speaker 3: of how it helps you do a lot of healing
Speaker 3: and a lot of sort of like revealing of yourself
Speaker 3: because I look back to sort of when I first
Speaker 3: started using them, and even when I use them now,
Speaker 3: like a lot of my intention when I'm sort of
Speaker 3: pulling a card, I'm like, what do I What am
Speaker 3: I needing?
Speaker 2: What am I not seeing right now? What am I?
Speaker 3: And it really is that like oh, okay, this is
Speaker 3: what I need to be working on in my life. Well, like,
Speaker 3: this is where I sort of like need to be
Speaker 3: my attention needs to go. Well, I never even realized
Speaker 3: that I was doing that. It really does like access
Speaker 3: this very like intuitive subconscious part of you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And that's that's what I love about it
Speaker 1: because you know, even when we do like personal growth
Speaker 1: and development, if we only do that from a place
Speaker 1: of thinking it and what's in our conscious mind, we're
Speaker 1: really only tapping into part of it. We're not tapping
Speaker 1: into this full spectrum. But what Taro helps us to
Speaker 1: do is to access more of our subconscious and what's
Speaker 1: really happening, you know, underneath the surface. And when we
Speaker 1: access more of that subconscious part, then we start to
Speaker 1: reveal so much more than if it's inner conscious mind
Speaker 1: and all of that happens because again, Taro cards are
Speaker 1: so visual, they're so symbolic, so it helps to bypass
Speaker 1: the conscious mind and it helps us drop into subconscious
Speaker 1: where really like that is where the bulk of you know,
Speaker 1: who we are actually lies. There's only a tiny little
Speaker 1: fraction that's up there in our conscious minds.
Speaker 2: Yes, I love that.
Speaker 3: Before we move on to like the manifestation of it all.
Speaker 3: Let's talk I would love to chat about Like for
Speaker 3: people who are listening and they're like, I really want
Speaker 3: to use taro, how would you recommend people even get
Speaker 3: into it or start using it or you know, because
Speaker 3: I think for a lot of people, it feels a
Speaker 3: bit like you'd need, you know, to go and read
Speaker 3: like fifteen books or do a course or something on
Speaker 3: how to use them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I totally get it. That's kind of why
Speaker 1: I haven't. I have like about three books on astrology.
Speaker 1: Every time I go to read them, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's too much. I don't remember all this.
Speaker 2: I feel like that too about astrology.
Speaker 1: Well, and you know, I had that feeling about taro
Speaker 1: when I first started, because I was like, holy moly,
Speaker 1: how on earth do you remember seventy eight tarot cards
Speaker 1: and what they mean? Like if you pick up any book,
Speaker 1: there's like literally pages and pages on every card, and
Speaker 1: then you think, oh, gosh, I've got to like memorize
Speaker 1: all this stuff. But again, what I learned over time
Speaker 1: was that that's actually really only one way of going
Speaker 1: about learning taro. The other way is to experience taro
Speaker 1: through more of like by accessing like your intuition. So
Speaker 1: if you're just getting started, the easiest way to start
Speaker 1: is get a Taro deck and then just pull a
Speaker 1: card a day. And so at the beginning of your day,
Speaker 1: just simply ask, like, what is the energy I need
Speaker 1: to connect with today. It's not predicting what's going to
Speaker 1: happen for you in the day. It's more like what
Speaker 1: do I need to be aware of or what am
Speaker 1: I calling in? And then actually, let me just grab
Speaker 1: trusty little cards. So let's just say we're chuining into
Speaker 1: our energy for today and we're doing the daily oh
Speaker 1: card pool and that one just, oh, this is not
Speaker 1: a nice one. Okay, Well, so let's just say this
Speaker 1: one comes out and so it's the three of Swords
Speaker 1: and the picture on this is this heart. It's pierced
Speaker 1: with three swords. It's pretty traumatic. There's rain clouds in
Speaker 1: the background. And you know, you don't even need to
Speaker 1: know what the traditional meaning is of this card just
Speaker 1: by looking at the imagery. You know, what would you see,
Speaker 1: Mickey in this card? What would you say might be happening?
Speaker 2: It feels like heartbreak, like.
Speaker 3: Yes, some sort of like heart hurt essentially is what
Speaker 3: I normally see with that card?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, and you know, maybe even I'm kind of
Speaker 1: getting the feeling of like being let down or yeah,
Speaker 1: feeling hurt portrayed. Maybe now you you might start your
Speaker 1: day with this card and then you go, oh, what
Speaker 1: am I to have a breakup? Or is something terrible
Speaker 1: going to happen today? It's not necessarily that, it's more
Speaker 1: like using it as an opportunity to reflect on where
Speaker 1: in my life is this energy showing up? And you
Speaker 1: might go, well, where am I feeling left down? Hurt, betrayed, disappointed?
Speaker 1: Where am I feeling brief sorrow, loss? And because often
Speaker 1: you know, even these negative like so called negative feelings,
Speaker 1: they can still be present, but we kind of stash
Speaker 1: them down, right, So I bet you can even think
Speaker 1: of where you've been let down and maybe you're carrying
Speaker 1: some of the energy today. I know I can when
Speaker 1: I bring my awareness to it, I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling a bit let down in particular areas. And
Speaker 1: so then it's my opportunity to go, huh, well, how
Speaker 1: might that be impacting me today? And is there anything
Speaker 1: that I can do to shift that energy? And so
Speaker 1: we're really taking what might be stored in the subconscious,
Speaker 1: bring it into that conscious awareness where we can take action,
Speaker 1: we can do something with it, and then we can
Speaker 1: move on with the date. So again, if you're a beginner,
Speaker 1: you're brand new to it, easy peasy, because you can
Speaker 1: just look at the picture, you can trust what you're feeling,
Speaker 1: trust to intuition. Of course, you can always go into
Speaker 1: awesome websites like videtaro dot com to get your Taro
Speaker 1: card meanings. And yeah, it's just a really simple and
Speaker 1: easy way to start to learn the cards, but then
Speaker 1: also to start to create time for yourself to listen
Speaker 1: inwardly and listen to intuition, because that's ultimately what Taro
Speaker 1: is doing. It's helping you to have this space to
Speaker 1: listen within. Because we're so busy, right, we'll, you know,
Speaker 1: oh I've got to spare a minute or jump on
Speaker 1: my phone, I'll have a look at whatever. But if
Speaker 1: we've got Taro, it's more like, ah, okay, I can
Speaker 1: just pull a card. I can tune into what I'm feeling.
Speaker 3: Yes, so true, And it's not like you're having to,
Speaker 3: you know, put aside like twenty minutes to do a
Speaker 3: deep meditation. So you can like you know, scour the
Speaker 3: inner like parts of your mind and you know, try
Speaker 3: and connect with some fucking galactic creature from some sort
Speaker 3: of planet or something like that.
Speaker 2: It's literally just like okay, pull our card. And what
Speaker 2: I love about that that practice.
Speaker 3: As well, and the concept of just like pulling a
Speaker 3: card today is that it also, as you said, it's
Speaker 3: sort of taking something from the subconscious and putting it
Speaker 3: into the conscious. But then you're getting to like have
Speaker 3: control over something as well, which I think is like
Speaker 3: so powerful. And what I love about, you know, just
Speaker 3: spirituality in general.
Speaker 2: Is like it really is this sort of like.
Speaker 3: This empowerment, this regaining control over yourself and your own
Speaker 3: life as opposed to things happening to you. You're able
Speaker 3: to be sort of more aware of what's going on
Speaker 3: and then make a real decision about what you're going
Speaker 3: to do about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. And you know what this is again,
Speaker 1: one of the other big misconceptions about taru is that
Speaker 1: you know, Taro is going to tell you what's going
Speaker 1: to happen to you, or it's going to make something happen.
Speaker 1: And you know, yes, you can use Taro in that way.
Speaker 1: You can use it to predict the future. When we
Speaker 1: predict future, we're assuming that it's happening to us and
Speaker 1: it's all set in stone. There's nothing we can do.
Speaker 1: And you know, if it's a good outcome, awesome. But
Speaker 1: if it's a bad outcome, like you know that three
Speaker 1: of swords, like, oh yes, you're going to experience heartbreak
Speaker 1: and grief and disappointment, then that feels like shit.
Speaker 2: Doesn't it?
Speaker 1: Right? So I like to kind of flip the table
Speaker 1: on that and really look at, like, how can we
Speaker 1: use taro as a way to empower ourselves to look
Speaker 1: at what's happening currently and then how can I navigate
Speaker 1: the current situation to create the outcomes I want and
Speaker 1: I desire? And so that's what gives us that control,
Speaker 1: Like you're saying, it helps us to take back our
Speaker 1: power and use it in a much more empowering way.
Speaker 2: Yes, I could not agree more.
Speaker 3: Let's move into the manifestation of things, because how did
Speaker 3: you go from like playing with taro, loving it, getting
Speaker 3: super into it to building like a seven bigger empire
Speaker 3: built on Taro?
Speaker 2: What was that journey?
Speaker 1: You know, when I first started learning taro, within a
Speaker 1: couple of years I was like, oh, this is kind
Speaker 1: of cool. I would love to be able to share
Speaker 1: it with people in some way. And this, again was
Speaker 1: late nineteen nineties. I'm definitely showing my age, but it
Speaker 1: was also like the birth of the Internet around then,
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh, why don't I just start a
Speaker 1: web page? And so I learned how to code HTML
Speaker 1: and i'd started building a little website.
Speaker 2: You did it yourself?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I had to learn all of the code
Speaker 1: all by myself. It looks like a disaster, but the
Speaker 1: important thing is I just got started, right, and that's
Speaker 1: the thing with all of business. So yeah, I put
Speaker 1: up this website, and really, any time I was learning something,
Speaker 1: I'd just added in and maybe someone else out there
Speaker 1: in the world might enjoy it. And over time it
Speaker 1: started to grow. I started to have people join my
Speaker 1: email list, I had people booking readings with me, and
Speaker 1: then it started my website started to rank on Google,
Speaker 1: and that's when the traffic really began to grow. And
Speaker 1: so fast forward to twenty twelve, and I realized that
Speaker 1: my business was growing enough that I could actually leave
Speaker 1: my corporate job. So I've been working in corporate for
Speaker 1: about fifteen years, and yeah, I decided like it was
Speaker 1: time to leave the corporate world. So twenty twelve is
Speaker 1: when all of that happened, and then that's really when
Speaker 1: the business started to build. I employed my first team member.
Speaker 1: We now have a team of fifteen people who are
Speaker 1: located all around the world. And by twenty fourteen, I
Speaker 1: was creating like online courses for Taro and purely because
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, I'm learning all this great stuff.
Speaker 1: I really want to be able to share it with people.
Speaker 1: Even though I don't consider myself a master or a
Speaker 1: guru or an expert, I know that I've got something
Speaker 1: that will offer like value to people and I might
Speaker 1: be a few years ahead of the people that I'm
Speaker 1: here to serve. And that felt great to me. And
Speaker 1: so yeah, the courses that started doing, the courses, the
Speaker 1: master classes, all of the things, and over time that
Speaker 1: really began to grow and grow. And so now we've
Speaker 1: had over sixteen thousand students take our programs. We have
Speaker 1: like I don't know, nearly twelve million people visit Bitty
Speaker 1: Taro every year and we're just serving people in a
Speaker 1: really beautiful and authentic way in helping them create their
Speaker 1: own transformation. With the two cards all the way from
Speaker 1: like when you just get started to when you want
Speaker 1: to create a business or expands like a coaching business
Speaker 1: and you want to add in taaro, Like, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: here for all of that. Like overall, it's just been
Speaker 1: about following those intuitive breadcrumbs and following where my energy
Speaker 1: is and what feels great and you know, what feels alive,
Speaker 1: and then doing more of that. I also have, like
Speaker 1: I'm super passionate about business as I am about spirituality,
Speaker 1: and you know, there's not kind of a rare blend
Speaker 1: to find them both, but that's definitely like my magic source.
Speaker 1: And now yeah, I'm really happy to be able to
Speaker 1: help others to kind of find that integration too between
Speaker 1: those two worlds.
Speaker 3: Okay, the statters amazing. That is incredible, And like what
Speaker 3: I love is just like when you're talking, you just
Speaker 3: exude this like you're so excited about what you do,
Speaker 3: like you really fucking just love it, which is nothing
Speaker 3: I love more than a passionate person who just loves
Speaker 3: what they do and feel so like just like lit
Speaker 3: up by helping other people, which I think is the
Speaker 3: most beautiful thing. So then how did we how did
Speaker 3: you really like sort of figure out what the method was,
Speaker 3: especially the intuitive manifesting of it all.
Speaker 2: You know, when you're.
Speaker 3: Sitting down, like teaching other people how to manifest intuitively,
Speaker 3: like how do you teach that?
Speaker 2: What sort of like the method?
Speaker 3: What do you think was the thing that made you
Speaker 3: go everything else?
Speaker 2: I was trying?
Speaker 3: This is what I was sort of missing amongst the
Speaker 3: manifest because we hear people talk about manifestation all the time,
Speaker 3: you know so, and sometimes like I know, for me,
Speaker 3: I've done the written the lists, I've like imagined sitting
Speaker 3: in the car, the car that I want, and all
Speaker 3: of that kind of thing, and like getting in deep
Speaker 3: and figuring out what it is that all of that crap,
Speaker 3: And I still feel like, even for me personally, there's
Speaker 3: an element where I feel like I'm just stopping myself
Speaker 3: with so much, which is why I'm so interested to
Speaker 3: hear about like the intuitive manifesting and like you've created
Speaker 3: a business based off I guess for someone like me
Speaker 3: who's in a similar industry. And I think often when
Speaker 3: you are working in like a spiritual space or a
Speaker 3: space where you're helping others, there's almost just like this
Speaker 3: degree of wanting to help. More Over, wanting to sort
Speaker 3: of like that balance of accepting money and you know, success,
Speaker 3: Like how do you sort of navigate all of that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Awesome. I think there's two really juicy topics in there,
Speaker 1: and I'd love to give both some energy. And one is,
Speaker 1: you know, how do you kind of operate as a
Speaker 1: spiritual entrepreneur? And will jump into that, but first I
Speaker 1: want to just, yeah, connect with the whole idea of
Speaker 1: intuitive manifesting and like what is different about that? So
Speaker 1: when I started my business, you know, I'd come out
Speaker 1: of fifteen years in corporate I had Also I'm a
Speaker 1: master's degree in HR, so I've studied at university too long,
Speaker 1: too long to have nightmares to I finished my degree
Speaker 1: and I had to go back that after no. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but so you know, I've been academically trained, and I
Speaker 1: think what happens out of that is that you, like
Speaker 1: I was trained to see things in such a linear way.
Speaker 1: If you want something, you set a goal, you do
Speaker 1: your smart goals, You make a plan, you follow that
Speaker 1: plan until you've hit your goal. And I think that
Speaker 1: to some extent that is successful and it has worked
Speaker 1: for me. But I got to a point where I
Speaker 1: was like there's only so much that this linear approach
Speaker 1: can do. And what I started to see, particularly as
Speaker 1: I was reading more and more with the Tarot cards,
Speaker 1: is that our intuition actually has a huge role in
Speaker 1: how we manifest things, and our energy and our connection
Speaker 1: to things really influences how we manifest and how we
Speaker 1: create our goals. So when it comes to things like
Speaker 1: intuitive manifested, for me, it's really about taking those fundamental
Speaker 1: principles of manifesting, which is stuff like you know, having
Speaker 1: a clear vision of what you want, then becoming like
Speaker 1: an energetic match to that, taking aligned action, and then
Speaker 1: amplifying success through you know, celebrating success in someone. But
Speaker 1: there's this missing layer that we often forget, and that
Speaker 1: is this intuition layer that creates more of this alignment
Speaker 1: to what our true goals and our desires are. So
Speaker 1: even if you jump back into that first space of
Speaker 1: like clarifying what it is that you want, the layer
Speaker 1: that I'm adding is like, set your goals, but set
Speaker 1: the goals that are in alignment with your highest potential.
Speaker 1: How this works is you can use your trusty Tarot
Speaker 1: cards and you go, Okay, if I think my goal,
Speaker 1: let's say, for my business. I think my goal is
Speaker 1: to hit half a million dollars in revenue this year.
Speaker 1: You go, okay, great, that sounds good. Now you could
Speaker 1: stop there and go, yeah, I've got my ambition, you know,
Speaker 1: next step, but I suggest take that goal and then
Speaker 1: think about what's a wildly ambitious version of that, what
Speaker 1: is a kind of a more ambitious like, sorry, it's
Speaker 1: slightly less ambitious, and then a more conservative. So you
Speaker 1: end up with these three versions of your goal. Then
Speaker 1: pick a towero card like pull a card for each
Speaker 1: version of that goal, and then tune into what is
Speaker 1: what might you experience if you were to go for
Speaker 1: each version of those goals. Now, when I was back
Speaker 1: in the earlier days of my business, I thought it
Speaker 1: was all about going for the you know ten x
Speaker 1: your business. You know, that's kind of hustle crap that's
Speaker 1: out there, and if if I'd listened to that, I
Speaker 1: would have just gone for it. But then my two
Speaker 1: card said, hey, if you go for that wildly ambitious goal,
Speaker 1: you're going to feel disconnected from your family, You're going
Speaker 1: to get burnt out. You might make the money, but
Speaker 1: it's not going to feel aligned and wholesome. And then Equally,
Speaker 1: if you just go conservative and do pretty much the
Speaker 1: same as you did last year, it's going to get
Speaker 1: boring for you. You're just you're not going to be inspired,
Speaker 1: like you're just playing small. And then I had I
Speaker 1: think maybe something like the Queen of Pentacles was sitting
Speaker 1: right there in the middle. I thought, Yeah, if I
Speaker 1: go for this kind of a little above what I'm
Speaker 1: looking for, not the ten x crazy goal, but just
Speaker 1: the little expansion goal, then that's going to fulfill me
Speaker 1: on so many different levels. And here's the thing, like
Speaker 1: the Tower didn't tell me you must do this goal,
Speaker 1: this is the right goal to do. I got to
Speaker 1: make the choice. I got to go, Okay, what do
Speaker 1: I really value? Well, I value my time, my freedom,
Speaker 1: I value that. I like expansion and growth, and so
Speaker 1: knowing what is coming, like I can choose which one
Speaker 1: feels most aligned for me, and so out of that,
Speaker 1: I'm now creating these more aligned goals that are more
Speaker 1: connected with my highest potential and beyond just what I
Speaker 1: think is the right goal, but what is actually really
Speaker 1: true for me to be that mylned goal.
Speaker 3: Yes, Oh my god, I feel like that's just been
Speaker 3: such a light Bob One just the practicality of the
Speaker 3: like of using the cards. I've never ever ever thought
Speaker 3: to use cards in regards to manifesting or like I'll
Speaker 3: you know, chat to spirit and try and see certain timelines,
Speaker 3: which is hard when you're doing it for yourself, I
Speaker 3: find anyway, which is why I like to even use
Speaker 3: cards and myself, because you can be so fucking biased,
Speaker 3: like you have a bias and you have an ego
Speaker 3: that likes to pop in, and it's like really hard
Speaker 3: to get a clear.
Speaker 2: Answer on your own shit sometimes.
Speaker 3: Which is where the cards go. I'll just say it
Speaker 3: for you, I'll tell you. But even just like the
Speaker 3: feeling into, I like the concept of the like the
Speaker 3: super large, the more conservative, and then that sort of
Speaker 3: like middle ground and feeling into because I think our
Speaker 3: brain likes to, you know, and because given the society
Speaker 3: that we live in and there's sort of like patriarchal,
Speaker 3: capitalistic structure of it all, we can't help but sort
Speaker 3: of want that ten times everything, you know, like supposed
Speaker 3: to do this and build this and create it. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to have a team of fifty people and like,
Speaker 3: let's see how humongous we can get this thing without
Speaker 3: thinking exactly as you said, is that even the life
Speaker 3: that I want? Or am I just getting caught up
Speaker 3: in this like need for success and like this, you know,
Speaker 3: if it's this big, then.
Speaker 2: How great will I be? How awesome is that that
Speaker 2: I'll really.
Speaker 3: Like must be thinking like I'll be definitely successful or whatever,
Speaker 3: as opposed to that sort of like what like what
Speaker 3: actually feels good?
Speaker 2: What actually feels like what I want in my life?
Speaker 3: As opposed you know, like do I just want a
Speaker 3: humongous business or do I want.
Speaker 2: Do I want? You know?
Speaker 3: And freedom also means like having a business that is
Speaker 3: making an income that helps you feel free as well
Speaker 3: and gives you freedom to help others and freedom to
Speaker 3: you know, make choices and decisions, and freedom to be
Speaker 3: with your family and like that's just such a beautiful
Speaker 3: way to look at it.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, And you know that is that's the power
Speaker 1: of really connecting in with intuition and going beyond just
Speaker 1: what you think is like the sexy goal. Because here's
Speaker 1: the thing, like we you know, we're on social media
Speaker 1: and you look at everyone like no doubt and everyone's feed.
Speaker 1: You've got someone who's got the flashy life and they're
Speaker 1: manifesting all these cool things, and then it makes you
Speaker 1: go like, oh, well, if they're manifesting that, maybe I
Speaker 1: want to manifest that too, because that looks like it's
Speaker 1: a cool thing to do. Except then you start going
Speaker 1: down that path and you go, huh, that's not I
Speaker 1: don't really actually want that, like you know, whether it's
Speaker 1: like the fancy car or you know, beautiful holiday. Maybe
Speaker 1: you start to realize, well, actually, maybe they're taking out
Speaker 1: financing or alone, and you don't want to have all
Speaker 1: of that extra obligation of having to manage you know,
Speaker 1: financing or even you know, with the businesses. I think
Speaker 1: it's interesting because I'm in a number of different like
Speaker 1: business circles, and sometimes the voices are like, yeah, let's
Speaker 1: grow the business like these you know, eight figure, nine
Speaker 1: figure type business stuff. And then when you hear like
Speaker 1: the sort of lunchtime chats, it's like, well, how much
Speaker 1: profit are you making? Oh no, none, we're in growth mode.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh that's not for me, Like I don't
Speaker 1: need the really big growing business and get no profit.
Speaker 1: I'm know, sure there's probably a wonderful sale down the track,
Speaker 1: but for me, like what's important to me is Yeah,
Speaker 1: freedom time with family, that I feel comfortable like financially,
Speaker 1: that I can generate a consistent and regular profit in
Speaker 1: my business, Like that's important to me. And if that
Speaker 1: means that I don't necessarily grow my business aggressively, and
Speaker 1: that's okay. I might look different to what's on all
Speaker 1: of the Instagram pages and people with all these like
Speaker 1: you know meland La launch, Well how much did he
Speaker 1: spend on ads or how much did he spend with affiliates?
Speaker 1: Like what is actually left over from that? So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's just really reclaiming trusting our own intuition
Speaker 1: about what is that we really desire and not getting
Speaker 1: caught up in what looks like the thing that we
Speaker 1: should be going for.
Speaker 3: Yes, I love that so much and your business as well.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like the growth of it happened because
Speaker 3: like often we see these sort of like overnight success
Speaker 3: well you know, as you said, like going from zero
Speaker 3: to one hundred and you're in boss bitch mode or
Speaker 3: whatever it is that you know, like boss girl and
Speaker 3: and all of that. But do you feel like there's
Speaker 3: like such a merit to sort of and I know,
Speaker 3: like this has been such a lesson from spirit to
Speaker 3: me recently because I've got a Capricorn stelium and I
Speaker 3: love to just you know, try and be successful and
Speaker 3: do all of the things and everything, and I guess
Speaker 3: we almost.
Speaker 2: Like forget that there is like such.
Speaker 3: A the timeline is so much longer and larger than
Speaker 3: we realize, you know, and there's such merit to just
Speaker 3: sort of like slow and steady and kind of like
Speaker 3: really enjoying the in between moments of it all. And like, yeah,
Speaker 3: Spirits sort of said to me, They're like, you literally
Speaker 3: need to actually just take it one thing at a time,
Speaker 3: you know, and like just gradually sort of build, as
Speaker 3: opposed to just thinking that you can just, I don't know,
Speaker 3: do one thing and like that's it. You're like, you know,
Speaker 3: like just just sort of like the way that you've
Speaker 3: built it.
Speaker 2: Does it make.
Speaker 3: It feel I guess almost like more comfortable in a way,
Speaker 3: like you're able to kind of like adjust it every
Speaker 3: single step along the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, Like I think when I was
Speaker 1: starting to build the business, I paid so much attention
Speaker 1: to the later strategies, the best practices, you know, what
Speaker 1: other people were doing, and that certainly helped me to
Speaker 1: know how to grow an online business. But there came
Speaker 1: a point where it just I was looking so far
Speaker 1: outside of me. I was losing track of what I
Speaker 1: really wanted and what was really important for me. So
Speaker 1: I think that this just gives me that ability to
Speaker 1: really trust what's important to me, and that I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily have to chase the same goals that other people have,
Speaker 1: and I don't have to do things the same way
Speaker 1: that other people do. I don't have to feel that
Speaker 1: fomo because it actually doesn't matter what other people are doing.
Speaker 1: What matters is what I'm doing and how does that
Speaker 1: feel for me? And I think what I've learned to
Speaker 1: do over time is, you know, like when we're going
Speaker 1: for that extreme kind of growth, we're often chasing something
Speaker 1: that's ahead, like in the future, and everything is like
Speaker 1: I'm doing everything now, I'm working really hard. I'm not
Speaker 1: making money so that I can make the money in
Speaker 1: the future, or I can have the holiday, or I
Speaker 1: could finally have my financial freedom and stop working or whatever.
Speaker 1: But what I realize is, when you're working in that way,
Speaker 1: how are you experiencing the present moment? You're probably experiencing stress, anxiety,
Speaker 1: you know, pressure, yeah, and being a business owner. Now
Speaker 1: I'm like far out, bridget. If you can't get this
Speaker 1: shit sorted now, you'll never get it sorted. And if
Speaker 1: you're feeling like overwhelmed and like you don't have time
Speaker 1: to do anything, you'll never get that sorted. And so
Speaker 1: I think I've really learned to pivot and go okay
Speaker 1: in this moment, like, right now, how do I want
Speaker 1: to feel what's important to me? I know that freedom
Speaker 1: is one of my highest values. How can I create
Speaker 1: freedom right now? How can I feel good and aligned
Speaker 1: and energized right now? Because if I can't do it
Speaker 1: right now, I probably won't ever be able to do it.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, it's just like it's the same pattern
Speaker 1: with Taro. Instead of projecting yourself out into the future,
Speaker 1: come back to the present moment because this is where
Speaker 1: we are creating the future, then where we're having our
Speaker 1: experience is now. And yeah, I think that's like that's
Speaker 1: the same with goals and manifesting. It's how can you
Speaker 1: start to also be your future self now? This is
Speaker 1: another really big kind of breakthrough moment that many of
Speaker 1: my students have with intuitive manifesting is oftentimes we're focused
Speaker 1: on all of the things we need to do to
Speaker 1: get to our goal. But what we really need to
Speaker 1: do first is actually who do we need to become
Speaker 1: to get our goals? So be?
Speaker 2: Then? Do not?
Speaker 1: Do? Then?
Speaker 2: Be?
Speaker 1: So what that means is if we go out into
Speaker 1: the future and we go, okay, that when I finally
Speaker 1: feel successful and fulfilled, what are my characteristics? Who am I?
Speaker 1: Who have I become? You know? Am I someone that
Speaker 1: is courageous? Am I someone that feels expansive and free?
Speaker 1: And then how can I take those characteristics and bring
Speaker 1: them right back into this present moment so that I
Speaker 1: am already all of those things now? And if I
Speaker 1: can just add one little icing on the cake there,
Speaker 1: because please, this awesome tool for this is what if
Speaker 1: you could find a TOWERO card that perfectly embodies that
Speaker 1: future self. So, for example, I might go, well, I
Speaker 1: really want to have okay, hope, and I want to
Speaker 1: I want to really embody hope and faith and trust
Speaker 1: in the universe right to trust that my goals will
Speaker 1: come to fruition. Okay, Well, I know that the Star
Speaker 1: card has a lot of that hope and faith. So
Speaker 1: how can I make the Star card my ally, my
Speaker 1: guide in this whole process? How can I embody her
Speaker 1: energy and be her and feel her so that when
Speaker 1: I do go to do the things to achieve my goals,
Speaker 1: I'm already transporting all of that beautiful future energy into
Speaker 1: this present moment to make things happen from that space.
Speaker 3: Talking about creating a spiritual business or like, you know,
Speaker 3: it's even not even particularly like spirituality, but even just
Speaker 3: like being of service to others and trying to sort
Speaker 3: of balance owning a business and not having this like
Speaker 3: perspective of you know, this capitalistic I just need to
Speaker 3: make money versus like I just want to help people.
Speaker 2: How do you balance the two of those?
Speaker 3: You know, it's for me, I often just feel this
Speaker 3: like moral back and forth sometimes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the two do need to be
Speaker 1: balanced with each other. What I've found, you know, through
Speaker 1: the different cycles of my business, I've had some cycles where,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe we're going through a bit of a
Speaker 1: rough spot where maybe we're not receiving as much like
Speaker 1: income and money coming through the business. And those times
Speaker 1: I've realized, you know what, it actually doesn't matter how
Speaker 1: much I want to serve people right now, It's also
Speaker 1: very important to me that I am being financially rewarded
Speaker 1: and sustained and nurtured like through this business. So love
Speaker 1: it or hate it, I think money is actually still
Speaker 1: really important. And that's why I, you know, bang on
Speaker 1: a bit about like profit. I think profits really healthy
Speaker 1: and it's important and it's not about greed. It's about
Speaker 1: actually making sure that you are being sustained as a creator.
Speaker 1: Because again that there was a time in my business
Speaker 1: where it just everything felt so hard and we're just
Speaker 1: just felt like struggles, street things are not feeling great.
Speaker 1: And I realized at that moment, you know, a couple
Speaker 1: of my team members resigned, and I'm like, shit, that
Speaker 1: all of them can resign, but I can't, Like I
Speaker 1: don't get to hand in my resignation letter, even if
Speaker 1: I'm having a really terrible experience, I don't get to
Speaker 1: go that's it. I quit, because the whole thing is
Speaker 1: over if I did that. And I really realized in
Speaker 1: that moment, no, okay, I have some non negotiables that
Speaker 1: I need to make sure that I can be sustained
Speaker 1: through this and over a long period of time. So
Speaker 1: I think, you know, as a business owner with a
Speaker 1: spiritual focus, you have to put some of your own
Speaker 1: needs first, because otherwise you will not be running your
Speaker 1: offering and you will not be serving your people if
Speaker 1: you can't sustain yourself over time. So it's definitely definitely
Speaker 1: a balance. And then you know, on the flip side,
Speaker 1: I've seen people who are just all about the money
Speaker 1: and all they talk about is the leads and the
Speaker 1: con persians, And yes, that is important data correct, And
Speaker 1: I think, hang on a second, are we dealing with
Speaker 1: people here? Are we like, you know, heart to heart connection.
Speaker 1: I've got to be it's so mindful that we're playing
Speaker 1: in that balance space. And maybe it is the balance
Speaker 1: of the masculine and the feminine. Jeez, maybe it's that
Speaker 1: balance of kind of yeah, the heart to heart connection
Speaker 1: and then the financial sustainability of a business. I think
Speaker 1: oftentimes spiritual entrepreneurs feel the guilt and the greed of
Speaker 1: money without recognized and realizing that they actually do need
Speaker 1: the money to allow them to then fully serve their
Speaker 1: community and their people.
Speaker 3: Definitely, and that's something I always try and remind myself of.
Speaker 3: And when I first started manifesting like ever, because I
Speaker 3: just had this like this real guilt thing around money
Speaker 3: and wanting money, but I just really wanted to be
Speaker 3: able to help people, and I realized, well, I can't
Speaker 3: actually help people if I don't have, like, I can't,
Speaker 3: I can't donate money, I can't go out and help others.
Speaker 3: I can't There's so much I can't do what I'm
Speaker 3: restricted by because I myself am literally just trying to
Speaker 3: survive every single day.
Speaker 2: And that was like such a game change for me.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know, if I've got money, then
Speaker 3: I can support smaller businesses. If I've got money, I
Speaker 3: can donate. If I've got money, I can travel and
Speaker 3: help people I've got And that sort of changed my
Speaker 3: perspective on things. So instead of it being like money
Speaker 3: for me, I started to go, Okay, well I'll try.
Speaker 2: And make money so that I can then help more people.
Speaker 3: And so now I'm in the like trying to balance
Speaker 3: the doing it for others and doing it for myself
Speaker 3: as well, which is sort of like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's hard. It's such a.
Speaker 3: Hard thing because you don't want to like, I love
Speaker 3: business and I love having a business and building a business,
Speaker 3: but then like trying to balance that with you know.
Speaker 2: You also don't want to be seen as like a
Speaker 2: bad person.
Speaker 3: Or you know, especially as women too, Like it's not
Speaker 3: even just spiritual, but like as a woman, you're not
Speaker 3: supposed to be too ambitious and you're not supposed to
Speaker 3: be too assertive, and like, you know, your business is
Speaker 3: being a really fucking nice person, so you have to
Speaker 3: like keep that appearance up kind of balance.
Speaker 2: All of those things can feel difficult.
Speaker 1: And I think it's particularly so, like in the spiritual space,
Speaker 1: because there is a lot of judgment around that, like, well,
Speaker 1: if you're really spiritual, you wouldn't be trying to make
Speaker 1: money or a profit out of this, right, Oh, you've
Speaker 1: got natural gifts, Like how dare you charge for those gifts?
Speaker 1: And I always say like, well, okay, that's nice, and
Speaker 1: just you know, like a hard surgeon, they're gifted, aren't
Speaker 1: they They're amazing, they save lives. Like are they meant
Speaker 1: to not charge for their services and their skills? No way,
Speaker 1: There's no way that we would go like, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to pay you, because you should be honoring your gifts.
Speaker 1: Even a hairdresser like do we go and get a
Speaker 1: haircut and go, oh, you're so gifted, we shouldn't be charging.
Speaker 2: That's so true.
Speaker 4: Oh, I have just I feel like I've just selfishly
Speaker 4: this has almost just been like me just milking information
Speaker 4: from you and just like make the most of all
Speaker 4: of your wisdom.
Speaker 2: And your business advice and everything. I'm like, I hope
Speaker 2: everyone else has been enjoying this as much as I have.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for coming and chatting to me
Speaker 3: and sharing like this is such important information and even just.
Speaker 2: Like the practicality of tarot. Like what I love about.
Speaker 3: Tarot and cards in general is it is a practical tool.
Speaker 3: It's like something that you can hold in your hand.
Speaker 3: It is something that can just be used when you
Speaker 3: need it, which I think like is so important and
Speaker 3: something that can really help us get out of our
Speaker 3: own heads as well.
Speaker 1: Yes, and it's beautiful like to use that alongside of
Speaker 1: manifesting or you know, creating what you really desire. It's
Speaker 1: it is super powerful and it's also like non threatening,
Speaker 1: right because you talk about all kinds of topics like
Speaker 1: talking ago, some spirits and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: That stuff can seem a little bit scary because it's unseen, unknown, right,
Speaker 1: Taro is like, well, the card said that I'm going
Speaker 1: to meet a nice man on his throne who knows
Speaker 1: his emotions. It's there, It's like in the picture, and
Speaker 1: so it is a beautiful tangible way to go well, actually,
Speaker 1: you know, this is me connecting with my intuition, but
Speaker 1: the card tells me is you know it's a nice
Speaker 1: bridge between the two realms for sure?
Speaker 2: Totally?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Literally, it's a picture, like what is it going
Speaker 3: to do to you?
Speaker 2: You can still if you want, you can still look
Speaker 2: at it and go no.
Speaker 3: Thank you, or you can take heaps of information out
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Bridget.
Speaker 3: Is there anything else, like one last thing that you
Speaker 3: feel like you'd love for people to know about Taro,
Speaker 3: about manifestation, about anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say just get started, Like seriously, you know,
Speaker 1: I think people get a little bit frightened about the
Speaker 1: worry that it's going to take too long to learn
Speaker 1: and master, but hopefully, like what you've experienced in this
Speaker 1: last hour together is that Taro is actually very easy
Speaker 1: to just start using and to use in a very
Speaker 1: powerful way. I'd also like to just offer I've put
Speaker 1: together a special free guide with the four steps of
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Speaker 1: to download that guide for free. Hurrah. Plus you'll also
Speaker 1: get all of the details on where to pre order
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Speaker 1: great way just to get into it, get started and
Speaker 1: start to just experience the magic of Taro and making
Speaker 1: your dreams come true.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, and I'll put all of the
Speaker 3: information and everything in the show notes. Also, like you
Speaker 3: need one of Bridget's tarot decks. I have one and
Speaker 3: I use it religiously. It's like basically like the it's bent,
Speaker 3: it's in all it's in a well used condition because
Speaker 3: it's so great. Thank you so much, Bridget. It's been
Speaker 3: such an honor to have you on the podcast. And
Speaker 3: I'll make sure that everything is in the show notes
Speaker 3: that people can find you and manifest their dream life.
Speaker 1: Yay, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Thank you.