1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Apogee Production. 2 00:00:10,961 --> 00:00:13,921 Speaker 2: I'm Mickie Fisher and welcome to the Village Crazy Lady. 3 00:00:14,321 --> 00:00:17,401 Speaker 3: People are talking to me and they are not physically 4 00:00:17,481 --> 00:00:20,721 Speaker 3: in this room, so just strap in for that. 5 00:00:20,961 --> 00:00:23,121 Speaker 2: Can't call me crazy, so I said it first. 6 00:00:23,321 --> 00:00:26,121 Speaker 3: Whoever's trying to come through, whatever messages need to come through, like, 7 00:00:26,241 --> 00:00:26,761 Speaker 3: just bring it on. 8 00:00:26,841 --> 00:00:27,361 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 9 00:00:28,201 --> 00:00:36,001 Speaker 3: Crazy Crazy Crazy The Village Crazy Lay Podcast. Hello, gorgeous legends, 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,441 Speaker 3: and welcome to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady. 11 00:00:39,921 --> 00:00:41,921 Speaker 2: I am so excited about this guest. 12 00:00:42,281 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 3: Bridget Essalmont, is an intuitive entrepreneur, a best selling author, 13 00:00:47,001 --> 00:00:51,921 Speaker 3: and founder of Bitty Tarot. I have had your tarot 14 00:00:52,001 --> 00:00:56,161 Speaker 3: cards for years, and I've known about you and what you. 15 00:00:56,001 --> 00:00:59,441 Speaker 2: Do for years. How did you get into taro? 16 00:01:00,481 --> 00:01:03,681 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it goes all the way back to the 17 00:01:03,801 --> 00:01:07,321 Speaker 1: late nineteen ninety and this is when I just finished 18 00:01:07,401 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: high school and I was going on an exchange to 19 00:01:10,441 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: Germany with my best friend and we thought, oh, why 20 00:01:14,121 --> 00:01:16,241 Speaker 1: don't we go and get a tower reading before we 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,761 Speaker 1: go to Germany. And so we found this little place 22 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,961 Speaker 1: in the Rocks in Sydney and we're walking up these 23 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,601 Speaker 1: creaky wooden stairs and starting to feel all very mysterious 24 00:01:26,761 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: and a little bit spooky. And I walk into this 25 00:01:30,241 --> 00:01:32,881 Speaker 1: dark room. This woman's like sitting there in the corner 26 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,041 Speaker 1: with her cards laid out in front of her, and 27 00:01:35,081 --> 00:01:37,041 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, what am I getting 28 00:01:37,041 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: myself into? But I sat down with her and asked her, like, 29 00:01:40,401 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: what's going to happen when I go to Germany? And 30 00:01:42,881 --> 00:01:45,881 Speaker 1: she starts pulling the cards and then she pulls the Emperor. 31 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,801 Speaker 1: She goes, ooh, you're going to fall in love, like 32 00:01:48,841 --> 00:01:51,081 Speaker 1: there's his boyfriend. He's waiting for you. It's going to 33 00:01:51,121 --> 00:01:54,721 Speaker 1: be amazing. And so, you know, I'm seventeen years old, 34 00:01:54,721 --> 00:01:59,401 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that sounds fantastic. Probably tell us to everyone, 35 00:01:59,481 --> 00:02:02,081 Speaker 1: but hey, I'll buy into it. And then yeah, of 36 00:02:02,121 --> 00:02:05,361 Speaker 1: course I go to Germany. I fall in love a 37 00:02:05,401 --> 00:02:10,361 Speaker 1: few times and it was great done. And so then 38 00:02:10,561 --> 00:02:14,361 Speaker 1: like that, I came back to Australia and I thought, wow, 39 00:02:14,401 --> 00:02:16,761 Speaker 1: this is pretty cool. I'd love to learn how to 40 00:02:16,841 --> 00:02:18,921 Speaker 1: do this and I could show off to my friends 41 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,481 Speaker 1: this like cool trick. But here's the thing. I've got 42 00:02:22,481 --> 00:02:24,641 Speaker 1: my tarot cards. My mum gifted them to me. I 43 00:02:24,721 --> 00:02:27,481 Speaker 1: started learning them, and then the more that I learned 44 00:02:27,481 --> 00:02:29,681 Speaker 1: about the Taro, the more I realized that they were 45 00:02:29,721 --> 00:02:35,881 Speaker 1: actually a really profound tool for transformation and for accessing intuition. 46 00:02:36,481 --> 00:02:39,401 Speaker 1: It was so different to what I've seen like on movies, 47 00:02:39,441 --> 00:02:43,281 Speaker 1: which was all about like fortune telling and mystery and 48 00:02:43,721 --> 00:02:48,081 Speaker 1: you know, bad things happening. It was completely different to that. 49 00:02:48,161 --> 00:02:51,481 Speaker 1: It was actually this really beautiful experience that I was 50 00:02:51,481 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: having with the cards, and it was opening up all 51 00:02:54,161 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: of these parts of myself that had been there for 52 00:02:57,161 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: so long, like the spiritual aspects, the connection to the divine, 53 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,921 Speaker 1: connection to self and intuition, and it was all just 54 00:03:05,161 --> 00:03:07,281 Speaker 1: like opening up as it's laid out there on the 55 00:03:07,321 --> 00:03:08,361 Speaker 1: table in front of me. 56 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,641 Speaker 3: In what way can you explain? Because that's so interesting 57 00:03:12,721 --> 00:03:14,961 Speaker 3: to me. I mean, I don't think I've ever really 58 00:03:15,721 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: thought about it like that, Like, in what way did 59 00:03:19,281 --> 00:03:21,201 Speaker 3: it sort of like reveal this part of you? 60 00:03:22,561 --> 00:03:25,361 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, Like one of the things that I thought 61 00:03:25,481 --> 00:03:28,081 Speaker 1: before I started reading Taro was I had to be 62 00:03:28,201 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: psychic in order to read Taro. I needed to be 63 00:03:30,441 --> 00:03:32,881 Speaker 1: able to see like speak to dead people. I had 64 00:03:32,921 --> 00:03:37,321 Speaker 1: to see the future like perfectly. And I really thought 65 00:03:37,361 --> 00:03:40,321 Speaker 1: that I needed to have these specific skills and gifts 66 00:03:40,441 --> 00:03:43,081 Speaker 1: in order to be able to read Taro. And so 67 00:03:43,201 --> 00:03:46,201 Speaker 1: when I started reading Taro, I did everything I could 68 00:03:46,281 --> 00:03:51,001 Speaker 1: to like master it, master my psychic abilities. But over 69 00:03:51,081 --> 00:03:55,321 Speaker 1: time I started to realize this actually isn't about like wrote, 70 00:03:55,361 --> 00:03:57,881 Speaker 1: learning the cards. It's not like what I was doing 71 00:03:57,921 --> 00:04:00,561 Speaker 1: at school and university and trying to read all of 72 00:04:00,601 --> 00:04:03,001 Speaker 1: the books. This was actually something that needed to be 73 00:04:03,121 --> 00:04:06,521 Speaker 1: felt and experienced. So then the more that I let 74 00:04:06,561 --> 00:04:10,721 Speaker 1: my intuition come into play, the more I could see 75 00:04:11,521 --> 00:04:14,881 Speaker 1: what was unfolding in the cards. So it actually turned 76 00:04:14,881 --> 00:04:18,441 Speaker 1: out that instead of having to be psychic and gifted 77 00:04:18,481 --> 00:04:21,721 Speaker 1: and so on to read Taro, the Taro itself was 78 00:04:21,761 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: the thing that was helping me become more intuitive. Because 79 00:04:25,521 --> 00:04:29,041 Speaker 1: if you think about Taro cards, it's seventy eight cards. 80 00:04:29,481 --> 00:04:32,321 Speaker 1: Every card has this picture on it, It has this 81 00:04:32,601 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: rich symbolism, you know, different stories, mythology, even connections to 82 00:04:39,641 --> 00:04:44,801 Speaker 1: religion and other spiritual kind of philosophies. And when we're 83 00:04:44,841 --> 00:04:49,001 Speaker 1: reading these cards, it's almost giving us direct access to 84 00:04:49,201 --> 00:04:54,241 Speaker 1: this collective wisdom that's been created over time, but also 85 00:04:54,361 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: to this individual wisdom that's our intuition and what's within ourselves. 86 00:04:59,241 --> 00:05:02,761 Speaker 1: And so when we access Taro, were actually accessing these 87 00:05:02,801 --> 00:05:07,081 Speaker 1: different parts of and wisdom, that collective wisdom and our 88 00:05:07,201 --> 00:05:10,681 Speaker 1: inner wisdom, and that to me is just amazing and 89 00:05:10,761 --> 00:05:11,721 Speaker 1: so powerful. 90 00:05:12,561 --> 00:05:16,121 Speaker 3: I love that cards are probably I guess when people 91 00:05:16,121 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 3: think about spirituality right and like you know, delving into 92 00:05:20,281 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: their own spirituality. I know, for me, cards was like 93 00:05:22,961 --> 00:05:25,561 Speaker 3: one of the first places I went because it's a tool, 94 00:05:26,041 --> 00:05:30,721 Speaker 3: it's a really helpful, very fun as well, like it 95 00:05:30,761 --> 00:05:34,121 Speaker 3: doesn't feel scary. There's nothing really about although unless like 96 00:05:34,241 --> 00:05:35,921 Speaker 3: if you're doing Taro for the first time and you 97 00:05:35,961 --> 00:05:38,521 Speaker 3: see like the death card or the tower or something 98 00:05:38,561 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: come out and you're like, oh my fucking god, am 99 00:05:40,561 --> 00:05:44,921 Speaker 3: I about to die? But outside of that, it's just 100 00:05:45,001 --> 00:05:47,521 Speaker 3: like it's a fun almost like party game me kind 101 00:05:47,521 --> 00:05:51,801 Speaker 3: of feeling. But I can understand like that the sort 102 00:05:51,841 --> 00:05:56,681 Speaker 3: of how it helps you do a lot of healing 103 00:05:56,761 --> 00:05:59,361 Speaker 3: and a lot of sort of like revealing of yourself 104 00:05:59,401 --> 00:06:01,281 Speaker 3: because I look back to sort of when I first 105 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,241 Speaker 3: started using them, and even when I use them now, 106 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,281 Speaker 3: like a lot of my intention when I'm sort of 107 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,201 Speaker 3: pulling a card, I'm like, what do I What am 108 00:06:09,201 --> 00:06:09,761 Speaker 3: I needing? 109 00:06:09,841 --> 00:06:11,801 Speaker 2: What am I not seeing right now? What am I? 110 00:06:12,121 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: And it really is that like oh, okay, this is 111 00:06:14,401 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: what I need to be working on in my life. Well, like, 112 00:06:17,281 --> 00:06:19,321 Speaker 3: this is where I sort of like need to be 113 00:06:19,521 --> 00:06:22,521 Speaker 3: my attention needs to go. Well, I never even realized 114 00:06:22,521 --> 00:06:25,081 Speaker 3: that I was doing that. It really does like access 115 00:06:25,161 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: this very like intuitive subconscious part of you. 116 00:06:29,681 --> 00:06:32,081 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And that's that's what I love about it 117 00:06:32,121 --> 00:06:35,481 Speaker 1: because you know, even when we do like personal growth 118 00:06:35,521 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: and development, if we only do that from a place 119 00:06:38,921 --> 00:06:42,281 Speaker 1: of thinking it and what's in our conscious mind, we're 120 00:06:42,281 --> 00:06:45,201 Speaker 1: really only tapping into part of it. We're not tapping 121 00:06:45,201 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: into this full spectrum. But what Taro helps us to 122 00:06:48,601 --> 00:06:53,121 Speaker 1: do is to access more of our subconscious and what's 123 00:06:53,201 --> 00:06:58,161 Speaker 1: really happening, you know, underneath the surface. And when we 124 00:06:58,281 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: access more of that subconscious part, then we start to 125 00:07:02,121 --> 00:07:06,561 Speaker 1: reveal so much more than if it's inner conscious mind 126 00:07:06,601 --> 00:07:09,561 Speaker 1: and all of that happens because again, Taro cards are 127 00:07:09,561 --> 00:07:13,721 Speaker 1: so visual, they're so symbolic, so it helps to bypass 128 00:07:13,801 --> 00:07:16,961 Speaker 1: the conscious mind and it helps us drop into subconscious 129 00:07:17,281 --> 00:07:20,521 Speaker 1: where really like that is where the bulk of you know, 130 00:07:20,561 --> 00:07:23,041 Speaker 1: who we are actually lies. There's only a tiny little 131 00:07:23,041 --> 00:07:25,201 Speaker 1: fraction that's up there in our conscious minds. 132 00:07:26,561 --> 00:07:27,841 Speaker 2: Yes, I love that. 133 00:07:28,241 --> 00:07:31,081 Speaker 3: Before we move on to like the manifestation of it all. 134 00:07:31,761 --> 00:07:34,721 Speaker 3: Let's talk I would love to chat about Like for 135 00:07:34,801 --> 00:07:37,041 Speaker 3: people who are listening and they're like, I really want 136 00:07:37,041 --> 00:07:41,321 Speaker 3: to use taro, how would you recommend people even get 137 00:07:41,361 --> 00:07:44,241 Speaker 3: into it or start using it or you know, because 138 00:07:44,241 --> 00:07:46,641 Speaker 3: I think for a lot of people, it feels a 139 00:07:46,681 --> 00:07:51,121 Speaker 3: bit like you'd need, you know, to go and read 140 00:07:51,161 --> 00:07:53,561 Speaker 3: like fifteen books or do a course or something on 141 00:07:53,681 --> 00:07:54,521 Speaker 3: how to use them. 142 00:07:55,561 --> 00:07:58,241 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I totally get it. That's kind of why 143 00:07:58,281 --> 00:08:01,081 Speaker 1: I haven't. I have like about three books on astrology. 144 00:08:01,441 --> 00:08:03,241 Speaker 1: Every time I go to read them, I'm like, oh, 145 00:08:03,281 --> 00:08:05,961 Speaker 1: it's too much. I don't remember all this. 146 00:08:08,121 --> 00:08:09,881 Speaker 2: I feel like that too about astrology. 147 00:08:10,801 --> 00:08:13,561 Speaker 1: Well, and you know, I had that feeling about taro 148 00:08:13,681 --> 00:08:16,361 Speaker 1: when I first started, because I was like, holy moly, 149 00:08:16,521 --> 00:08:19,401 Speaker 1: how on earth do you remember seventy eight tarot cards 150 00:08:19,401 --> 00:08:21,561 Speaker 1: and what they mean? Like if you pick up any book, 151 00:08:21,601 --> 00:08:24,761 Speaker 1: there's like literally pages and pages on every card, and 152 00:08:24,761 --> 00:08:27,361 Speaker 1: then you think, oh, gosh, I've got to like memorize 153 00:08:27,361 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: all this stuff. But again, what I learned over time 154 00:08:31,481 --> 00:08:34,521 Speaker 1: was that that's actually really only one way of going 155 00:08:34,561 --> 00:08:38,921 Speaker 1: about learning taro. The other way is to experience taro 156 00:08:39,401 --> 00:08:43,001 Speaker 1: through more of like by accessing like your intuition. So 157 00:08:43,241 --> 00:08:46,281 Speaker 1: if you're just getting started, the easiest way to start 158 00:08:47,001 --> 00:08:49,721 Speaker 1: is get a Taro deck and then just pull a 159 00:08:49,761 --> 00:08:52,401 Speaker 1: card a day. And so at the beginning of your day, 160 00:08:52,521 --> 00:08:55,921 Speaker 1: just simply ask, like, what is the energy I need 161 00:08:55,961 --> 00:08:58,441 Speaker 1: to connect with today. It's not predicting what's going to 162 00:08:58,521 --> 00:09:00,401 Speaker 1: happen for you in the day. It's more like what 163 00:09:00,441 --> 00:09:02,401 Speaker 1: do I need to be aware of or what am 164 00:09:02,441 --> 00:09:04,961 Speaker 1: I calling in? And then actually, let me just grab 165 00:09:05,841 --> 00:09:11,321 Speaker 1: trusty little cards. So let's just say we're chuining into 166 00:09:11,321 --> 00:09:13,401 Speaker 1: our energy for today and we're doing the daily oh 167 00:09:13,601 --> 00:09:15,321 Speaker 1: card pool and that one just, oh, this is not 168 00:09:15,361 --> 00:09:21,601 Speaker 1: a nice one. Okay, Well, so let's just say this 169 00:09:21,641 --> 00:09:24,761 Speaker 1: one comes out and so it's the three of Swords 170 00:09:24,841 --> 00:09:27,441 Speaker 1: and the picture on this is this heart. It's pierced 171 00:09:27,481 --> 00:09:30,721 Speaker 1: with three swords. It's pretty traumatic. There's rain clouds in 172 00:09:30,761 --> 00:09:34,201 Speaker 1: the background. And you know, you don't even need to 173 00:09:34,241 --> 00:09:36,641 Speaker 1: know what the traditional meaning is of this card just 174 00:09:36,641 --> 00:09:39,081 Speaker 1: by looking at the imagery. You know, what would you see, 175 00:09:39,081 --> 00:09:41,681 Speaker 1: Mickey in this card? What would you say might be happening? 176 00:09:41,881 --> 00:09:44,401 Speaker 2: It feels like heartbreak, like. 177 00:09:46,201 --> 00:09:50,201 Speaker 3: Yes, some sort of like heart hurt essentially is what 178 00:09:50,281 --> 00:09:52,241 Speaker 3: I normally see with that card? 179 00:09:53,761 --> 00:09:58,441 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, and you know, maybe even I'm kind of 180 00:09:58,441 --> 00:10:02,121 Speaker 1: getting the feeling of like being let down or yeah, 181 00:10:02,281 --> 00:10:05,681 Speaker 1: feeling hurt portrayed. Maybe now you you might start your 182 00:10:05,721 --> 00:10:09,161 Speaker 1: day with this card and then you go, oh, what 183 00:10:09,321 --> 00:10:12,561 Speaker 1: am I to have a breakup? Or is something terrible 184 00:10:12,681 --> 00:10:15,521 Speaker 1: going to happen today? It's not necessarily that, it's more 185 00:10:15,641 --> 00:10:18,561 Speaker 1: like using it as an opportunity to reflect on where 186 00:10:18,601 --> 00:10:21,561 Speaker 1: in my life is this energy showing up? And you 187 00:10:21,641 --> 00:10:26,001 Speaker 1: might go, well, where am I feeling left down? Hurt, betrayed, disappointed? 188 00:10:26,081 --> 00:10:30,441 Speaker 1: Where am I feeling brief sorrow, loss? And because often 189 00:10:30,481 --> 00:10:33,281 Speaker 1: you know, even these negative like so called negative feelings, 190 00:10:34,201 --> 00:10:36,521 Speaker 1: they can still be present, but we kind of stash 191 00:10:36,601 --> 00:10:39,361 Speaker 1: them down, right, So I bet you can even think 192 00:10:39,401 --> 00:10:41,801 Speaker 1: of where you've been let down and maybe you're carrying 193 00:10:41,801 --> 00:10:44,041 Speaker 1: some of the energy today. I know I can when 194 00:10:44,041 --> 00:10:46,401 Speaker 1: I bring my awareness to it, I'm like, oh, yeah, 195 00:10:46,401 --> 00:10:49,921 Speaker 1: I'm feeling a bit let down in particular areas. And 196 00:10:50,001 --> 00:10:52,841 Speaker 1: so then it's my opportunity to go, huh, well, how 197 00:10:52,921 --> 00:10:55,681 Speaker 1: might that be impacting me today? And is there anything 198 00:10:55,681 --> 00:10:58,641 Speaker 1: that I can do to shift that energy? And so 199 00:10:58,681 --> 00:11:01,561 Speaker 1: we're really taking what might be stored in the subconscious, 200 00:11:01,921 --> 00:11:04,761 Speaker 1: bring it into that conscious awareness where we can take action, 201 00:11:05,161 --> 00:11:07,081 Speaker 1: we can do something with it, and then we can 202 00:11:07,121 --> 00:11:10,201 Speaker 1: move on with the date. So again, if you're a beginner, 203 00:11:10,281 --> 00:11:12,561 Speaker 1: you're brand new to it, easy peasy, because you can 204 00:11:12,641 --> 00:11:15,001 Speaker 1: just look at the picture, you can trust what you're feeling, 205 00:11:15,081 --> 00:11:17,761 Speaker 1: trust to intuition. Of course, you can always go into 206 00:11:18,121 --> 00:11:21,081 Speaker 1: awesome websites like videtaro dot com to get your Taro 207 00:11:21,161 --> 00:11:26,041 Speaker 1: card meanings. And yeah, it's just a really simple and 208 00:11:26,121 --> 00:11:30,121 Speaker 1: easy way to start to learn the cards, but then 209 00:11:30,161 --> 00:11:33,481 Speaker 1: also to start to create time for yourself to listen 210 00:11:33,881 --> 00:11:37,841 Speaker 1: inwardly and listen to intuition, because that's ultimately what Taro 211 00:11:37,961 --> 00:11:40,961 Speaker 1: is doing. It's helping you to have this space to 212 00:11:41,281 --> 00:11:43,921 Speaker 1: listen within. Because we're so busy, right, we'll, you know, 213 00:11:44,161 --> 00:11:45,641 Speaker 1: oh I've got to spare a minute or jump on 214 00:11:45,681 --> 00:11:48,401 Speaker 1: my phone, I'll have a look at whatever. But if 215 00:11:48,441 --> 00:11:51,121 Speaker 1: we've got Taro, it's more like, ah, okay, I can 216 00:11:51,161 --> 00:11:53,801 Speaker 1: just pull a card. I can tune into what I'm feeling. 217 00:11:55,281 --> 00:11:57,281 Speaker 3: Yes, so true, And it's not like you're having to, 218 00:11:57,881 --> 00:12:00,561 Speaker 3: you know, put aside like twenty minutes to do a 219 00:12:00,641 --> 00:12:03,841 Speaker 3: deep meditation. So you can like you know, scour the 220 00:12:04,001 --> 00:12:08,561 Speaker 3: inner like parts of your mind and you know, try 221 00:12:08,641 --> 00:12:11,961 Speaker 3: and connect with some fucking galactic creature from some sort 222 00:12:11,961 --> 00:12:13,001 Speaker 3: of planet or something like that. 223 00:12:13,041 --> 00:12:16,241 Speaker 2: It's literally just like okay, pull our card. And what 224 00:12:16,281 --> 00:12:18,281 Speaker 2: I love about that that practice. 225 00:12:17,841 --> 00:12:20,561 Speaker 3: As well, and the concept of just like pulling a 226 00:12:20,601 --> 00:12:24,401 Speaker 3: card today is that it also, as you said, it's 227 00:12:24,401 --> 00:12:26,801 Speaker 3: sort of taking something from the subconscious and putting it 228 00:12:26,841 --> 00:12:29,641 Speaker 3: into the conscious. But then you're getting to like have 229 00:12:29,761 --> 00:12:32,481 Speaker 3: control over something as well, which I think is like 230 00:12:32,641 --> 00:12:35,041 Speaker 3: so powerful. And what I love about, you know, just 231 00:12:35,601 --> 00:12:37,521 Speaker 3: spirituality in general. 232 00:12:37,841 --> 00:12:40,041 Speaker 2: Is like it really is this sort of like. 233 00:12:41,841 --> 00:12:47,001 Speaker 3: This empowerment, this regaining control over yourself and your own 234 00:12:47,041 --> 00:12:49,721 Speaker 3: life as opposed to things happening to you. You're able 235 00:12:49,761 --> 00:12:51,841 Speaker 3: to be sort of more aware of what's going on 236 00:12:51,921 --> 00:12:55,721 Speaker 3: and then make a real decision about what you're going 237 00:12:55,801 --> 00:12:56,521 Speaker 3: to do about it. 238 00:12:57,721 --> 00:13:00,121 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. And you know what this is again, 239 00:13:00,201 --> 00:13:04,921 Speaker 1: one of the other big misconceptions about taru is that 240 00:13:06,521 --> 00:13:08,441 Speaker 1: you know, Taro is going to tell you what's going 241 00:13:08,521 --> 00:13:12,081 Speaker 1: to happen to you, or it's going to make something happen. 242 00:13:12,721 --> 00:13:16,481 Speaker 1: And you know, yes, you can use Taro in that way. 243 00:13:16,521 --> 00:13:18,641 Speaker 1: You can use it to predict the future. When we 244 00:13:18,681 --> 00:13:23,241 Speaker 1: predict future, we're assuming that it's happening to us and 245 00:13:23,361 --> 00:13:25,441 Speaker 1: it's all set in stone. There's nothing we can do. 246 00:13:25,601 --> 00:13:27,401 Speaker 1: And you know, if it's a good outcome, awesome. But 247 00:13:27,441 --> 00:13:29,681 Speaker 1: if it's a bad outcome, like you know that three 248 00:13:29,681 --> 00:13:33,601 Speaker 1: of swords, like, oh yes, you're going to experience heartbreak 249 00:13:33,641 --> 00:13:37,561 Speaker 1: and grief and disappointment, then that feels like shit. 250 00:13:37,521 --> 00:13:38,001 Speaker 2: Doesn't it? 251 00:13:38,121 --> 00:13:41,281 Speaker 1: Right? So I like to kind of flip the table 252 00:13:41,401 --> 00:13:44,401 Speaker 1: on that and really look at, like, how can we 253 00:13:44,481 --> 00:13:47,281 Speaker 1: use taro as a way to empower ourselves to look 254 00:13:47,321 --> 00:13:51,401 Speaker 1: at what's happening currently and then how can I navigate 255 00:13:51,561 --> 00:13:54,881 Speaker 1: the current situation to create the outcomes I want and 256 00:13:54,921 --> 00:13:58,161 Speaker 1: I desire? And so that's what gives us that control, 257 00:13:58,281 --> 00:14:00,441 Speaker 1: Like you're saying, it helps us to take back our 258 00:14:00,521 --> 00:14:04,801 Speaker 1: power and use it in a much more empowering way. 259 00:14:06,521 --> 00:14:08,401 Speaker 2: Yes, I could not agree more. 260 00:14:09,001 --> 00:14:11,681 Speaker 3: Let's move into the manifestation of things, because how did 261 00:14:11,721 --> 00:14:15,761 Speaker 3: you go from like playing with taro, loving it, getting 262 00:14:15,841 --> 00:14:22,321 Speaker 3: super into it to building like a seven bigger empire 263 00:14:23,041 --> 00:14:24,441 Speaker 3: built on Taro? 264 00:14:25,161 --> 00:14:26,121 Speaker 2: What was that journey? 265 00:14:26,401 --> 00:14:29,281 Speaker 1: You know, when I first started learning taro, within a 266 00:14:29,281 --> 00:14:31,161 Speaker 1: couple of years I was like, oh, this is kind 267 00:14:31,161 --> 00:14:32,841 Speaker 1: of cool. I would love to be able to share 268 00:14:32,881 --> 00:14:35,601 Speaker 1: it with people in some way. And this, again was 269 00:14:35,721 --> 00:14:39,001 Speaker 1: late nineteen nineties. I'm definitely showing my age, but it 270 00:14:39,081 --> 00:14:42,481 Speaker 1: was also like the birth of the Internet around then, 271 00:14:42,521 --> 00:14:44,321 Speaker 1: and I thought, oh, why don't I just start a 272 00:14:44,321 --> 00:14:48,561 Speaker 1: web page? And so I learned how to code HTML 273 00:14:48,641 --> 00:14:50,681 Speaker 1: and i'd started building a little website. 274 00:14:50,761 --> 00:14:51,801 Speaker 2: You did it yourself? 275 00:14:52,281 --> 00:14:54,201 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I had to learn all of the code 276 00:14:54,241 --> 00:14:58,481 Speaker 1: all by myself. It looks like a disaster, but the 277 00:14:58,481 --> 00:15:00,801 Speaker 1: important thing is I just got started, right, and that's 278 00:15:00,841 --> 00:15:03,681 Speaker 1: the thing with all of business. So yeah, I put 279 00:15:03,761 --> 00:15:07,201 Speaker 1: up this website, and really, any time I was learning something, 280 00:15:07,241 --> 00:15:09,841 Speaker 1: I'd just added in and maybe someone else out there 281 00:15:09,841 --> 00:15:12,721 Speaker 1: in the world might enjoy it. And over time it 282 00:15:12,801 --> 00:15:15,241 Speaker 1: started to grow. I started to have people join my 283 00:15:15,361 --> 00:15:19,521 Speaker 1: email list, I had people booking readings with me, and 284 00:15:19,601 --> 00:15:24,401 Speaker 1: then it started my website started to rank on Google, 285 00:15:24,681 --> 00:15:27,521 Speaker 1: and that's when the traffic really began to grow. And 286 00:15:27,601 --> 00:15:33,321 Speaker 1: so fast forward to twenty twelve, and I realized that 287 00:15:33,401 --> 00:15:35,801 Speaker 1: my business was growing enough that I could actually leave 288 00:15:35,921 --> 00:15:38,681 Speaker 1: my corporate job. So I've been working in corporate for 289 00:15:38,721 --> 00:15:42,881 Speaker 1: about fifteen years, and yeah, I decided like it was 290 00:15:42,961 --> 00:15:46,481 Speaker 1: time to leave the corporate world. So twenty twelve is 291 00:15:46,481 --> 00:15:49,241 Speaker 1: when all of that happened, and then that's really when 292 00:15:49,281 --> 00:15:52,601 Speaker 1: the business started to build. I employed my first team member. 293 00:15:52,961 --> 00:15:54,921 Speaker 1: We now have a team of fifteen people who are 294 00:15:54,961 --> 00:15:59,281 Speaker 1: located all around the world. And by twenty fourteen, I 295 00:15:59,361 --> 00:16:03,481 Speaker 1: was creating like online courses for Taro and purely because 296 00:16:03,841 --> 00:16:05,961 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, I'm learning all this great stuff. 297 00:16:05,961 --> 00:16:07,881 Speaker 1: I really want to be able to share it with people. 298 00:16:08,441 --> 00:16:11,321 Speaker 1: Even though I don't consider myself a master or a 299 00:16:11,361 --> 00:16:14,241 Speaker 1: guru or an expert, I know that I've got something 300 00:16:14,241 --> 00:16:17,401 Speaker 1: that will offer like value to people and I might 301 00:16:17,441 --> 00:16:19,761 Speaker 1: be a few years ahead of the people that I'm 302 00:16:19,801 --> 00:16:22,441 Speaker 1: here to serve. And that felt great to me. And 303 00:16:22,481 --> 00:16:25,401 Speaker 1: so yeah, the courses that started doing, the courses, the 304 00:16:25,441 --> 00:16:28,481 Speaker 1: master classes, all of the things, and over time that 305 00:16:28,561 --> 00:16:31,561 Speaker 1: really began to grow and grow. And so now we've 306 00:16:31,561 --> 00:16:35,761 Speaker 1: had over sixteen thousand students take our programs. We have 307 00:16:36,041 --> 00:16:40,001 Speaker 1: like I don't know, nearly twelve million people visit Bitty 308 00:16:40,081 --> 00:16:44,961 Speaker 1: Taro every year and we're just serving people in a 309 00:16:45,001 --> 00:16:49,161 Speaker 1: really beautiful and authentic way in helping them create their 310 00:16:49,201 --> 00:16:52,321 Speaker 1: own transformation. With the two cards all the way from 311 00:16:52,321 --> 00:16:54,601 Speaker 1: like when you just get started to when you want 312 00:16:54,641 --> 00:16:57,521 Speaker 1: to create a business or expands like a coaching business 313 00:16:57,561 --> 00:16:59,921 Speaker 1: and you want to add in taaro, Like, yeah, we're 314 00:16:59,961 --> 00:17:03,081 Speaker 1: here for all of that. Like overall, it's just been 315 00:17:03,241 --> 00:17:07,241 Speaker 1: about following those intuitive breadcrumbs and following where my energy 316 00:17:07,321 --> 00:17:11,561 Speaker 1: is and what feels great and you know, what feels alive, 317 00:17:11,801 --> 00:17:14,321 Speaker 1: and then doing more of that. I also have, like 318 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,721 Speaker 1: I'm super passionate about business as I am about spirituality, 319 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: and you know, there's not kind of a rare blend 320 00:17:22,001 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: to find them both, but that's definitely like my magic source. 321 00:17:26,761 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: And now yeah, I'm really happy to be able to 322 00:17:28,681 --> 00:17:32,041 Speaker 1: help others to kind of find that integration too between 323 00:17:32,041 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: those two worlds. 324 00:17:33,561 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 3: Okay, the statters amazing. That is incredible, And like what 325 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 3: I love is just like when you're talking, you just 326 00:17:42,241 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 3: exude this like you're so excited about what you do, 327 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 3: like you really fucking just love it, which is nothing 328 00:17:48,761 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 3: I love more than a passionate person who just loves 329 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,721 Speaker 3: what they do and feel so like just like lit 330 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 3: up by helping other people, which I think is the 331 00:17:58,241 --> 00:18:01,801 Speaker 3: most beautiful thing. So then how did we how did 332 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:06,041 Speaker 3: you really like sort of figure out what the method was, 333 00:18:06,961 --> 00:18:10,481 Speaker 3: especially the intuitive manifesting of it all. 334 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 2: You know, when you're. 335 00:18:11,241 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 3: Sitting down, like teaching other people how to manifest intuitively, 336 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 3: like how do you teach that? 337 00:18:18,761 --> 00:18:20,241 Speaker 2: What sort of like the method? 338 00:18:20,281 --> 00:18:23,521 Speaker 3: What do you think was the thing that made you 339 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,441 Speaker 3: go everything else? 340 00:18:25,481 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 2: I was trying? 341 00:18:26,241 --> 00:18:28,521 Speaker 3: This is what I was sort of missing amongst the 342 00:18:28,561 --> 00:18:31,761 Speaker 3: manifest because we hear people talk about manifestation all the time, 343 00:18:32,281 --> 00:18:35,281 Speaker 3: you know so, and sometimes like I know, for me, 344 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: I've done the written the lists, I've like imagined sitting 345 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,721 Speaker 3: in the car, the car that I want, and all 346 00:18:42,761 --> 00:18:45,001 Speaker 3: of that kind of thing, and like getting in deep 347 00:18:45,041 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 3: and figuring out what it is that all of that crap, 348 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,521 Speaker 3: And I still feel like, even for me personally, there's 349 00:18:52,561 --> 00:18:55,401 Speaker 3: an element where I feel like I'm just stopping myself 350 00:18:55,441 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 3: with so much, which is why I'm so interested to 351 00:18:57,921 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 3: hear about like the intuitive manifesting and like you've created 352 00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:06,321 Speaker 3: a business based off I guess for someone like me 353 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,561 Speaker 3: who's in a similar industry. And I think often when 354 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 3: you are working in like a spiritual space or a 355 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,321 Speaker 3: space where you're helping others, there's almost just like this 356 00:19:17,441 --> 00:19:21,721 Speaker 3: degree of wanting to help. More Over, wanting to sort 357 00:19:21,761 --> 00:19:26,761 Speaker 3: of like that balance of accepting money and you know, success, 358 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 3: Like how do you sort of navigate all of that? 359 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,801 Speaker 1: Yeah? Awesome. I think there's two really juicy topics in there, 360 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,561 Speaker 1: and I'd love to give both some energy. And one is, 361 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: you know, how do you kind of operate as a 362 00:19:39,201 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: spiritual entrepreneur? And will jump into that, but first I 363 00:19:43,201 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: want to just, yeah, connect with the whole idea of 364 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: intuitive manifesting and like what is different about that? So 365 00:19:51,041 --> 00:19:54,321 Speaker 1: when I started my business, you know, I'd come out 366 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: of fifteen years in corporate I had Also I'm a 367 00:19:58,241 --> 00:20:03,241 Speaker 1: master's degree in HR, so I've studied at university too long, 368 00:20:03,481 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: too long to have nightmares to I finished my degree 369 00:20:07,241 --> 00:20:14,521 Speaker 1: and I had to go back that after no. Yeah, 370 00:20:14,561 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: but so you know, I've been academically trained, and I 371 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,321 Speaker 1: think what happens out of that is that you, like 372 00:20:21,681 --> 00:20:24,121 Speaker 1: I was trained to see things in such a linear way. 373 00:20:24,321 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: If you want something, you set a goal, you do 374 00:20:26,201 --> 00:20:28,761 Speaker 1: your smart goals, You make a plan, you follow that 375 00:20:28,801 --> 00:20:31,361 Speaker 1: plan until you've hit your goal. And I think that 376 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,801 Speaker 1: to some extent that is successful and it has worked 377 00:20:34,801 --> 00:20:37,041 Speaker 1: for me. But I got to a point where I 378 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,801 Speaker 1: was like there's only so much that this linear approach 379 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,681 Speaker 1: can do. And what I started to see, particularly as 380 00:20:45,681 --> 00:20:48,721 Speaker 1: I was reading more and more with the Tarot cards, 381 00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:53,001 Speaker 1: is that our intuition actually has a huge role in 382 00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:56,441 Speaker 1: how we manifest things, and our energy and our connection 383 00:20:56,561 --> 00:21:00,561 Speaker 1: to things really influences how we manifest and how we 384 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: create our goals. So when it comes to things like 385 00:21:03,801 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: intuitive manifested, for me, it's really about taking those fundamental 386 00:21:07,961 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: principles of manifesting, which is stuff like you know, having 387 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,521 Speaker 1: a clear vision of what you want, then becoming like 388 00:21:15,561 --> 00:21:19,281 Speaker 1: an energetic match to that, taking aligned action, and then 389 00:21:19,321 --> 00:21:23,321 Speaker 1: amplifying success through you know, celebrating success in someone. But 390 00:21:23,561 --> 00:21:26,561 Speaker 1: there's this missing layer that we often forget, and that 391 00:21:26,721 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: is this intuition layer that creates more of this alignment 392 00:21:30,801 --> 00:21:34,641 Speaker 1: to what our true goals and our desires are. So 393 00:21:35,001 --> 00:21:37,241 Speaker 1: even if you jump back into that first space of 394 00:21:37,321 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: like clarifying what it is that you want, the layer 395 00:21:40,441 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: that I'm adding is like, set your goals, but set 396 00:21:44,561 --> 00:21:47,201 Speaker 1: the goals that are in alignment with your highest potential. 397 00:21:47,721 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: How this works is you can use your trusty Tarot 398 00:21:50,441 --> 00:21:53,161 Speaker 1: cards and you go, Okay, if I think my goal, 399 00:21:53,241 --> 00:21:55,601 Speaker 1: let's say, for my business. I think my goal is 400 00:21:55,761 --> 00:22:00,921 Speaker 1: to hit half a million dollars in revenue this year. 401 00:22:01,041 --> 00:22:03,241 Speaker 1: You go, okay, great, that sounds good. Now you could 402 00:22:03,241 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: stop there and go, yeah, I've got my ambition, you know, 403 00:22:05,921 --> 00:22:10,241 Speaker 1: next step, but I suggest take that goal and then 404 00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:14,321 Speaker 1: think about what's a wildly ambitious version of that, what 405 00:22:14,481 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: is a kind of a more ambitious like, sorry, it's 406 00:22:17,521 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: slightly less ambitious, and then a more conservative. So you 407 00:22:19,961 --> 00:22:22,921 Speaker 1: end up with these three versions of your goal. Then 408 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:26,401 Speaker 1: pick a towero card like pull a card for each 409 00:22:26,521 --> 00:22:30,001 Speaker 1: version of that goal, and then tune into what is 410 00:22:30,481 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: what might you experience if you were to go for 411 00:22:32,681 --> 00:22:35,481 Speaker 1: each version of those goals. Now, when I was back 412 00:22:35,561 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: in the earlier days of my business, I thought it 413 00:22:38,921 --> 00:22:41,041 Speaker 1: was all about going for the you know ten x 414 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:43,761 Speaker 1: your business. You know, that's kind of hustle crap that's 415 00:22:43,801 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: out there, and if if I'd listened to that, I 416 00:22:47,481 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: would have just gone for it. But then my two 417 00:22:49,481 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: card said, hey, if you go for that wildly ambitious goal, 418 00:22:53,561 --> 00:22:56,041 Speaker 1: you're going to feel disconnected from your family, You're going 419 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: to get burnt out. You might make the money, but 420 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,841 Speaker 1: it's not going to feel aligned and wholesome. And then Equally, 421 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: if you just go conservative and do pretty much the 422 00:23:06,441 --> 00:23:08,561 Speaker 1: same as you did last year, it's going to get 423 00:23:08,561 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: boring for you. You're just you're not going to be inspired, 424 00:23:10,921 --> 00:23:13,321 Speaker 1: like you're just playing small. And then I had I 425 00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 1: think maybe something like the Queen of Pentacles was sitting 426 00:23:15,961 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: right there in the middle. I thought, Yeah, if I 427 00:23:18,761 --> 00:23:21,681 Speaker 1: go for this kind of a little above what I'm 428 00:23:21,721 --> 00:23:24,761 Speaker 1: looking for, not the ten x crazy goal, but just 429 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,281 Speaker 1: the little expansion goal, then that's going to fulfill me 430 00:23:28,321 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: on so many different levels. And here's the thing, like 431 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,521 Speaker 1: the Tower didn't tell me you must do this goal, 432 00:23:34,561 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: this is the right goal to do. I got to 433 00:23:36,721 --> 00:23:38,801 Speaker 1: make the choice. I got to go, Okay, what do 434 00:23:38,921 --> 00:23:42,041 Speaker 1: I really value? Well, I value my time, my freedom, 435 00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: I value that. I like expansion and growth, and so 436 00:23:46,321 --> 00:23:50,201 Speaker 1: knowing what is coming, like I can choose which one 437 00:23:50,201 --> 00:23:53,201 Speaker 1: feels most aligned for me, and so out of that, 438 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,681 Speaker 1: I'm now creating these more aligned goals that are more 439 00:23:57,120 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: connected with my highest potential and beyond just what I 440 00:24:00,681 --> 00:24:03,561 Speaker 1: think is the right goal, but what is actually really 441 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: true for me to be that mylned goal. 442 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:10,041 Speaker 3: Yes, Oh my god, I feel like that's just been 443 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 3: such a light Bob One just the practicality of the 444 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:18,001 Speaker 3: like of using the cards. I've never ever ever thought 445 00:24:18,041 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 3: to use cards in regards to manifesting or like I'll 446 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,241 Speaker 3: you know, chat to spirit and try and see certain timelines, 447 00:24:26,281 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 3: which is hard when you're doing it for yourself, I 448 00:24:29,321 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 3: find anyway, which is why I like to even use 449 00:24:32,041 --> 00:24:36,281 Speaker 3: cards and myself, because you can be so fucking biased, 450 00:24:36,281 --> 00:24:38,281 Speaker 3: like you have a bias and you have an ego 451 00:24:38,321 --> 00:24:41,201 Speaker 3: that likes to pop in, and it's like really hard 452 00:24:41,201 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 3: to get a clear. 453 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 2: Answer on your own shit sometimes. 454 00:24:44,041 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 3: Which is where the cards go. I'll just say it 455 00:24:47,281 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 3: for you, I'll tell you. But even just like the 456 00:24:55,681 --> 00:24:58,241 Speaker 3: feeling into, I like the concept of the like the 457 00:24:58,721 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 3: super large, the more conservative, and then that sort of 458 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,721 Speaker 3: like middle ground and feeling into because I think our 459 00:25:06,761 --> 00:25:10,281 Speaker 3: brain likes to, you know, and because given the society 460 00:25:10,281 --> 00:25:12,521 Speaker 3: that we live in and there's sort of like patriarchal, 461 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,201 Speaker 3: capitalistic structure of it all, we can't help but sort 462 00:25:16,201 --> 00:25:20,041 Speaker 3: of want that ten times everything, you know, like supposed 463 00:25:20,041 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 3: to do this and build this and create it. You know, 464 00:25:22,561 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 3: I'm supposed to have a team of fifty people and like, 465 00:25:24,961 --> 00:25:29,041 Speaker 3: let's see how humongous we can get this thing without 466 00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 3: thinking exactly as you said, is that even the life 467 00:25:32,441 --> 00:25:35,361 Speaker 3: that I want? Or am I just getting caught up 468 00:25:35,441 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 3: in this like need for success and like this, you know, 469 00:25:41,041 --> 00:25:42,881 Speaker 3: if it's this big, then. 470 00:25:42,721 --> 00:25:45,281 Speaker 2: How great will I be? How awesome is that that 471 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 2: I'll really. 472 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 3: Like must be thinking like I'll be definitely successful or whatever, 473 00:25:49,961 --> 00:25:54,521 Speaker 3: as opposed to that sort of like what like what 474 00:25:54,681 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 3: actually feels good? 475 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,241 Speaker 2: What actually feels like what I want in my life? 476 00:25:59,321 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 3: As opposed you know, like do I just want a 477 00:26:01,721 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 3: humongous business or do I want. 478 00:26:06,441 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: Do I want? You know? 479 00:26:08,481 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 3: And freedom also means like having a business that is 480 00:26:13,201 --> 00:26:16,561 Speaker 3: making an income that helps you feel free as well 481 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 3: and gives you freedom to help others and freedom to 482 00:26:19,921 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 3: you know, make choices and decisions, and freedom to be 483 00:26:23,321 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 3: with your family and like that's just such a beautiful 484 00:26:26,921 --> 00:26:27,841 Speaker 3: way to look at it. 485 00:26:29,001 --> 00:26:31,721 Speaker 1: M Yeah, And you know that is that's the power 486 00:26:31,761 --> 00:26:37,561 Speaker 1: of really connecting in with intuition and going beyond just 487 00:26:37,681 --> 00:26:41,121 Speaker 1: what you think is like the sexy goal. Because here's 488 00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:43,761 Speaker 1: the thing, like we you know, we're on social media 489 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,041 Speaker 1: and you look at everyone like no doubt and everyone's feed. 490 00:26:47,041 --> 00:26:49,441 Speaker 1: You've got someone who's got the flashy life and they're 491 00:26:49,481 --> 00:26:52,561 Speaker 1: manifesting all these cool things, and then it makes you 492 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: go like, oh, well, if they're manifesting that, maybe I 493 00:26:55,241 --> 00:26:57,201 Speaker 1: want to manifest that too, because that looks like it's 494 00:26:57,241 --> 00:26:59,801 Speaker 1: a cool thing to do. Except then you start going 495 00:26:59,801 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: down that path and you go, huh, that's not I 496 00:27:02,241 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: don't really actually want that, like you know, whether it's 497 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: like the fancy car or you know, beautiful holiday. Maybe 498 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:12,561 Speaker 1: you start to realize, well, actually, maybe they're taking out 499 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,961 Speaker 1: financing or alone, and you don't want to have all 500 00:27:15,001 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: of that extra obligation of having to manage you know, 501 00:27:19,521 --> 00:27:22,561 Speaker 1: financing or even you know, with the businesses. I think 502 00:27:22,561 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: it's interesting because I'm in a number of different like 503 00:27:24,961 --> 00:27:30,001 Speaker 1: business circles, and sometimes the voices are like, yeah, let's 504 00:27:30,041 --> 00:27:33,201 Speaker 1: grow the business like these you know, eight figure, nine 505 00:27:33,241 --> 00:27:36,321 Speaker 1: figure type business stuff. And then when you hear like 506 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,041 Speaker 1: the sort of lunchtime chats, it's like, well, how much 507 00:27:40,041 --> 00:27:43,321 Speaker 1: profit are you making? Oh no, none, we're in growth mode. 508 00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: It's like, oh that's not for me, Like I don't 509 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,681 Speaker 1: need the really big growing business and get no profit. 510 00:27:51,761 --> 00:27:55,041 Speaker 1: I'm know, sure there's probably a wonderful sale down the track, 511 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,521 Speaker 1: but for me, like what's important to me is Yeah, 512 00:27:57,561 --> 00:28:02,521 Speaker 1: freedom time with family, that I feel comfortable like financially, 513 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: that I can generate a consistent and regular profit in 514 00:28:07,001 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: my business, Like that's important to me. And if that 515 00:28:09,241 --> 00:28:12,801 Speaker 1: means that I don't necessarily grow my business aggressively, and 516 00:28:12,921 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: that's okay. I might look different to what's on all 517 00:28:15,441 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: of the Instagram pages and people with all these like 518 00:28:18,761 --> 00:28:21,001 Speaker 1: you know meland La launch, Well how much did he 519 00:28:21,041 --> 00:28:24,361 Speaker 1: spend on ads or how much did he spend with affiliates? 520 00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 1: Like what is actually left over from that? So yeah, 521 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: I think it's just really reclaiming trusting our own intuition 522 00:28:31,681 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: about what is that we really desire and not getting 523 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: caught up in what looks like the thing that we 524 00:28:37,761 --> 00:28:38,841 Speaker 1: should be going for. 525 00:28:40,081 --> 00:28:43,281 Speaker 3: Yes, I love that so much and your business as well. 526 00:28:43,321 --> 00:28:46,281 Speaker 3: Do you feel like the growth of it happened because 527 00:28:46,361 --> 00:28:49,121 Speaker 3: like often we see these sort of like overnight success 528 00:28:49,161 --> 00:28:51,161 Speaker 3: well you know, as you said, like going from zero 529 00:28:51,201 --> 00:28:53,401 Speaker 3: to one hundred and you're in boss bitch mode or 530 00:28:53,441 --> 00:28:56,881 Speaker 3: whatever it is that you know, like boss girl and 531 00:28:56,881 --> 00:28:58,961 Speaker 3: and all of that. But do you feel like there's 532 00:28:59,001 --> 00:29:01,001 Speaker 3: like such a merit to sort of and I know, 533 00:29:01,201 --> 00:29:04,161 Speaker 3: like this has been such a lesson from spirit to 534 00:29:04,241 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 3: me recently because I've got a Capricorn stelium and I 535 00:29:08,001 --> 00:29:11,361 Speaker 3: love to just you know, try and be successful and 536 00:29:11,401 --> 00:29:14,281 Speaker 3: do all of the things and everything, and I guess 537 00:29:14,281 --> 00:29:15,201 Speaker 3: we almost. 538 00:29:14,921 --> 00:29:17,761 Speaker 2: Like forget that there is like such. 539 00:29:17,641 --> 00:29:24,881 Speaker 3: A the timeline is so much longer and larger than 540 00:29:25,481 --> 00:29:28,841 Speaker 3: we realize, you know, and there's such merit to just 541 00:29:28,881 --> 00:29:33,161 Speaker 3: sort of like slow and steady and kind of like 542 00:29:33,401 --> 00:29:38,201 Speaker 3: really enjoying the in between moments of it all. And like, yeah, 543 00:29:38,241 --> 00:29:41,281 Speaker 3: Spirits sort of said to me, They're like, you literally 544 00:29:41,401 --> 00:29:44,281 Speaker 3: need to actually just take it one thing at a time, 545 00:29:44,961 --> 00:29:47,801 Speaker 3: you know, and like just gradually sort of build, as 546 00:29:47,841 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 3: opposed to just thinking that you can just, I don't know, 547 00:29:50,881 --> 00:29:54,681 Speaker 3: do one thing and like that's it. You're like, you know, 548 00:29:54,881 --> 00:29:56,841 Speaker 3: like just just sort of like the way that you've 549 00:29:56,841 --> 00:29:57,801 Speaker 3: built it. 550 00:29:57,281 --> 00:29:58,401 Speaker 2: Does it make. 551 00:29:58,321 --> 00:30:00,641 Speaker 3: It feel I guess almost like more comfortable in a way, 552 00:30:00,681 --> 00:30:03,161 Speaker 3: like you're able to kind of like adjust it every 553 00:30:03,201 --> 00:30:04,481 Speaker 3: single step along the way. 554 00:30:06,241 --> 00:30:09,641 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, Like I think when I was 555 00:30:09,681 --> 00:30:12,601 Speaker 1: starting to build the business, I paid so much attention 556 00:30:12,761 --> 00:30:15,641 Speaker 1: to the later strategies, the best practices, you know, what 557 00:30:15,881 --> 00:30:19,681 Speaker 1: other people were doing, and that certainly helped me to 558 00:30:21,281 --> 00:30:25,081 Speaker 1: know how to grow an online business. But there came 559 00:30:25,161 --> 00:30:28,441 Speaker 1: a point where it just I was looking so far 560 00:30:28,561 --> 00:30:31,121 Speaker 1: outside of me. I was losing track of what I 561 00:30:31,241 --> 00:30:34,801 Speaker 1: really wanted and what was really important for me. So 562 00:30:35,401 --> 00:30:38,881 Speaker 1: I think that this just gives me that ability to 563 00:30:38,961 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: really trust what's important to me, and that I don't 564 00:30:42,441 --> 00:30:46,281 Speaker 1: necessarily have to chase the same goals that other people have, 565 00:30:46,441 --> 00:30:48,521 Speaker 1: and I don't have to do things the same way 566 00:30:48,521 --> 00:30:51,041 Speaker 1: that other people do. I don't have to feel that 567 00:30:51,281 --> 00:30:55,241 Speaker 1: fomo because it actually doesn't matter what other people are doing. 568 00:30:55,361 --> 00:30:57,681 Speaker 1: What matters is what I'm doing and how does that 569 00:30:57,761 --> 00:31:01,921 Speaker 1: feel for me? And I think what I've learned to 570 00:31:01,961 --> 00:31:05,441 Speaker 1: do over time is, you know, like when we're going 571 00:31:05,481 --> 00:31:09,641 Speaker 1: for that extreme kind of growth, we're often chasing something 572 00:31:09,721 --> 00:31:13,681 Speaker 1: that's ahead, like in the future, and everything is like 573 00:31:13,721 --> 00:31:16,041 Speaker 1: I'm doing everything now, I'm working really hard. I'm not 574 00:31:16,121 --> 00:31:18,601 Speaker 1: making money so that I can make the money in 575 00:31:18,641 --> 00:31:20,401 Speaker 1: the future, or I can have the holiday, or I 576 00:31:20,401 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: could finally have my financial freedom and stop working or whatever. 577 00:31:24,081 --> 00:31:27,401 Speaker 1: But what I realize is, when you're working in that way, 578 00:31:27,961 --> 00:31:32,441 Speaker 1: how are you experiencing the present moment? You're probably experiencing stress, anxiety, 579 00:31:32,841 --> 00:31:39,481 Speaker 1: you know, pressure, yeah, and being a business owner. Now 580 00:31:39,561 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: I'm like far out, bridget. If you can't get this 581 00:31:41,761 --> 00:31:45,121 Speaker 1: shit sorted now, you'll never get it sorted. And if 582 00:31:45,121 --> 00:31:47,601 Speaker 1: you're feeling like overwhelmed and like you don't have time 583 00:31:47,641 --> 00:31:50,601 Speaker 1: to do anything, you'll never get that sorted. And so 584 00:31:50,921 --> 00:31:53,161 Speaker 1: I think I've really learned to pivot and go okay 585 00:31:53,681 --> 00:31:56,241 Speaker 1: in this moment, like, right now, how do I want 586 00:31:56,241 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: to feel what's important to me? I know that freedom 587 00:31:59,481 --> 00:32:01,881 Speaker 1: is one of my highest values. How can I create 588 00:32:02,001 --> 00:32:05,961 Speaker 1: freedom right now? How can I feel good and aligned 589 00:32:06,001 --> 00:32:08,561 Speaker 1: and energized right now? Because if I can't do it 590 00:32:08,641 --> 00:32:10,601 Speaker 1: right now, I probably won't ever be able to do it. 591 00:32:11,081 --> 00:32:14,081 Speaker 1: And so yeah, it's just like it's the same pattern 592 00:32:14,121 --> 00:32:17,121 Speaker 1: with Taro. Instead of projecting yourself out into the future, 593 00:32:17,641 --> 00:32:20,041 Speaker 1: come back to the present moment because this is where 594 00:32:20,041 --> 00:32:22,761 Speaker 1: we are creating the future, then where we're having our 595 00:32:22,841 --> 00:32:26,961 Speaker 1: experience is now. And yeah, I think that's like that's 596 00:32:26,961 --> 00:32:30,681 Speaker 1: the same with goals and manifesting. It's how can you 597 00:32:30,721 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: start to also be your future self now? This is 598 00:32:35,241 --> 00:32:39,121 Speaker 1: another really big kind of breakthrough moment that many of 599 00:32:39,161 --> 00:32:44,481 Speaker 1: my students have with intuitive manifesting is oftentimes we're focused 600 00:32:44,521 --> 00:32:47,161 Speaker 1: on all of the things we need to do to 601 00:32:47,241 --> 00:32:49,761 Speaker 1: get to our goal. But what we really need to 602 00:32:49,801 --> 00:32:52,721 Speaker 1: do first is actually who do we need to become 603 00:32:53,201 --> 00:32:54,601 Speaker 1: to get our goals? So be? 604 00:32:55,001 --> 00:32:55,881 Speaker 2: Then? Do not? 605 00:32:56,041 --> 00:32:56,681 Speaker 1: Do? Then? 606 00:32:56,761 --> 00:32:56,841 Speaker 2: Be? 607 00:32:57,841 --> 00:33:00,481 Speaker 1: So what that means is if we go out into 608 00:33:00,521 --> 00:33:03,041 Speaker 1: the future and we go, okay, that when I finally 609 00:33:03,041 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: feel successful and fulfilled, what are my characteristics? Who am I? 610 00:33:07,561 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: Who have I become? You know? Am I someone that 611 00:33:10,121 --> 00:33:14,881 Speaker 1: is courageous? Am I someone that feels expansive and free? 612 00:33:15,241 --> 00:33:17,881 Speaker 1: And then how can I take those characteristics and bring 613 00:33:17,921 --> 00:33:20,801 Speaker 1: them right back into this present moment so that I 614 00:33:20,841 --> 00:33:24,761 Speaker 1: am already all of those things now? And if I 615 00:33:24,761 --> 00:33:27,081 Speaker 1: can just add one little icing on the cake there, 616 00:33:27,121 --> 00:33:31,681 Speaker 1: because please, this awesome tool for this is what if 617 00:33:31,721 --> 00:33:35,681 Speaker 1: you could find a TOWERO card that perfectly embodies that 618 00:33:35,881 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: future self. So, for example, I might go, well, I 619 00:33:41,321 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: really want to have okay, hope, and I want to 620 00:33:43,721 --> 00:33:45,881 Speaker 1: I want to really embody hope and faith and trust 621 00:33:45,921 --> 00:33:48,401 Speaker 1: in the universe right to trust that my goals will 622 00:33:48,401 --> 00:33:50,961 Speaker 1: come to fruition. Okay, Well, I know that the Star 623 00:33:51,081 --> 00:33:54,281 Speaker 1: card has a lot of that hope and faith. So 624 00:33:54,321 --> 00:33:57,121 Speaker 1: how can I make the Star card my ally, my 625 00:33:57,761 --> 00:34:00,641 Speaker 1: guide in this whole process? How can I embody her 626 00:34:00,801 --> 00:34:04,521 Speaker 1: energy and be her and feel her so that when 627 00:34:04,561 --> 00:34:07,561 Speaker 1: I do go to do the things to achieve my goals, 628 00:34:08,001 --> 00:34:11,841 Speaker 1: I'm already transporting all of that beautiful future energy into 629 00:34:11,881 --> 00:34:14,641 Speaker 1: this present moment to make things happen from that space. 630 00:34:15,801 --> 00:34:20,401 Speaker 3: Talking about creating a spiritual business or like, you know, 631 00:34:20,561 --> 00:34:24,521 Speaker 3: it's even not even particularly like spirituality, but even just 632 00:34:24,601 --> 00:34:27,281 Speaker 3: like being of service to others and trying to sort 633 00:34:27,281 --> 00:34:31,481 Speaker 3: of balance owning a business and not having this like 634 00:34:31,681 --> 00:34:35,281 Speaker 3: perspective of you know, this capitalistic I just need to 635 00:34:35,361 --> 00:34:38,921 Speaker 3: make money versus like I just want to help people. 636 00:34:39,081 --> 00:34:41,321 Speaker 2: How do you balance the two of those? 637 00:34:41,481 --> 00:34:43,761 Speaker 3: You know, it's for me, I often just feel this 638 00:34:43,881 --> 00:34:46,921 Speaker 3: like moral back and forth sometimes. 639 00:34:47,761 --> 00:34:50,201 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the two do need to be 640 00:34:50,281 --> 00:34:54,281 Speaker 1: balanced with each other. What I've found, you know, through 641 00:34:54,321 --> 00:34:57,961 Speaker 1: the different cycles of my business, I've had some cycles where, 642 00:34:58,841 --> 00:35:00,881 Speaker 1: you know, maybe we're going through a bit of a 643 00:35:01,161 --> 00:35:05,241 Speaker 1: rough spot where maybe we're not receiving as much like 644 00:35:05,361 --> 00:35:09,001 Speaker 1: income and money coming through the business. And those times 645 00:35:09,041 --> 00:35:11,321 Speaker 1: I've realized, you know what, it actually doesn't matter how 646 00:35:11,401 --> 00:35:13,921 Speaker 1: much I want to serve people right now, It's also 647 00:35:14,481 --> 00:35:17,801 Speaker 1: very important to me that I am being financially rewarded 648 00:35:17,881 --> 00:35:22,001 Speaker 1: and sustained and nurtured like through this business. So love 649 00:35:22,041 --> 00:35:24,401 Speaker 1: it or hate it, I think money is actually still 650 00:35:24,481 --> 00:35:27,321 Speaker 1: really important. And that's why I, you know, bang on 651 00:35:27,361 --> 00:35:30,121 Speaker 1: a bit about like profit. I think profits really healthy 652 00:35:30,241 --> 00:35:33,401 Speaker 1: and it's important and it's not about greed. It's about 653 00:35:33,441 --> 00:35:37,121 Speaker 1: actually making sure that you are being sustained as a creator. 654 00:35:37,601 --> 00:35:40,401 Speaker 1: Because again that there was a time in my business 655 00:35:40,401 --> 00:35:45,961 Speaker 1: where it just everything felt so hard and we're just 656 00:35:45,961 --> 00:35:48,561 Speaker 1: just felt like struggles, street things are not feeling great. 657 00:35:49,201 --> 00:35:51,841 Speaker 1: And I realized at that moment, you know, a couple 658 00:35:51,841 --> 00:35:56,441 Speaker 1: of my team members resigned, and I'm like, shit, that 659 00:35:56,521 --> 00:35:59,481 Speaker 1: all of them can resign, but I can't, Like I 660 00:35:59,481 --> 00:36:02,001 Speaker 1: don't get to hand in my resignation letter, even if 661 00:36:02,041 --> 00:36:04,761 Speaker 1: I'm having a really terrible experience, I don't get to 662 00:36:04,801 --> 00:36:07,401 Speaker 1: go that's it. I quit, because the whole thing is 663 00:36:07,521 --> 00:36:10,761 Speaker 1: over if I did that. And I really realized in 664 00:36:10,801 --> 00:36:13,801 Speaker 1: that moment, no, okay, I have some non negotiables that 665 00:36:14,601 --> 00:36:18,361 Speaker 1: I need to make sure that I can be sustained 666 00:36:18,361 --> 00:36:22,281 Speaker 1: through this and over a long period of time. So 667 00:36:22,401 --> 00:36:25,121 Speaker 1: I think, you know, as a business owner with a 668 00:36:25,201 --> 00:36:29,321 Speaker 1: spiritual focus, you have to put some of your own 669 00:36:29,361 --> 00:36:32,481 Speaker 1: needs first, because otherwise you will not be running your 670 00:36:32,961 --> 00:36:36,641 Speaker 1: offering and you will not be serving your people if 671 00:36:36,641 --> 00:36:40,961 Speaker 1: you can't sustain yourself over time. So it's definitely definitely 672 00:36:40,961 --> 00:36:42,681 Speaker 1: a balance. And then you know, on the flip side, 673 00:36:42,681 --> 00:36:45,081 Speaker 1: I've seen people who are just all about the money 674 00:36:45,081 --> 00:36:47,001 Speaker 1: and all they talk about is the leads and the 675 00:36:47,161 --> 00:36:51,121 Speaker 1: con persians, And yes, that is important data correct, And 676 00:36:51,841 --> 00:36:53,961 Speaker 1: I think, hang on a second, are we dealing with 677 00:36:54,041 --> 00:36:56,921 Speaker 1: people here? Are we like, you know, heart to heart connection. 678 00:36:57,761 --> 00:37:00,161 Speaker 1: I've got to be it's so mindful that we're playing 679 00:37:00,281 --> 00:37:03,521 Speaker 1: in that balance space. And maybe it is the balance 680 00:37:03,521 --> 00:37:06,761 Speaker 1: of the masculine and the feminine. Jeez, maybe it's that 681 00:37:06,841 --> 00:37:09,281 Speaker 1: balance of kind of yeah, the heart to heart connection 682 00:37:09,441 --> 00:37:14,041 Speaker 1: and then the financial sustainability of a business. I think 683 00:37:14,081 --> 00:37:18,041 Speaker 1: oftentimes spiritual entrepreneurs feel the guilt and the greed of 684 00:37:18,401 --> 00:37:22,641 Speaker 1: money without recognized and realizing that they actually do need 685 00:37:22,681 --> 00:37:26,081 Speaker 1: the money to allow them to then fully serve their 686 00:37:26,121 --> 00:37:27,321 Speaker 1: community and their people. 687 00:37:29,201 --> 00:37:32,721 Speaker 3: Definitely, and that's something I always try and remind myself of. 688 00:37:32,881 --> 00:37:39,361 Speaker 3: And when I first started manifesting like ever, because I 689 00:37:39,441 --> 00:37:42,961 Speaker 3: just had this like this real guilt thing around money 690 00:37:43,081 --> 00:37:46,201 Speaker 3: and wanting money, but I just really wanted to be 691 00:37:46,201 --> 00:37:49,041 Speaker 3: able to help people, and I realized, well, I can't 692 00:37:49,081 --> 00:37:51,721 Speaker 3: actually help people if I don't have, like, I can't, 693 00:37:51,801 --> 00:37:54,841 Speaker 3: I can't donate money, I can't go out and help others. 694 00:37:54,921 --> 00:37:56,881 Speaker 3: I can't There's so much I can't do what I'm 695 00:37:56,881 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 3: restricted by because I myself am literally just trying to 696 00:38:00,521 --> 00:38:01,761 Speaker 3: survive every single day. 697 00:38:02,881 --> 00:38:04,801 Speaker 2: And that was like such a game change for me. 698 00:38:04,801 --> 00:38:06,361 Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know, if I've got money, then 699 00:38:06,361 --> 00:38:09,161 Speaker 3: I can support smaller businesses. If I've got money, I 700 00:38:09,201 --> 00:38:11,841 Speaker 3: can donate. If I've got money, I can travel and 701 00:38:11,881 --> 00:38:14,201 Speaker 3: help people I've got And that sort of changed my 702 00:38:14,241 --> 00:38:17,201 Speaker 3: perspective on things. So instead of it being like money 703 00:38:17,201 --> 00:38:19,721 Speaker 3: for me, I started to go, Okay, well I'll try. 704 00:38:19,521 --> 00:38:22,521 Speaker 2: And make money so that I can then help more people. 705 00:38:23,241 --> 00:38:26,201 Speaker 3: And so now I'm in the like trying to balance 706 00:38:26,321 --> 00:38:28,881 Speaker 3: the doing it for others and doing it for myself 707 00:38:28,921 --> 00:38:30,561 Speaker 3: as well, which is sort of like. 708 00:38:31,441 --> 00:38:33,361 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's hard. It's such a. 709 00:38:33,321 --> 00:38:39,081 Speaker 3: Hard thing because you don't want to like, I love 710 00:38:39,641 --> 00:38:43,601 Speaker 3: business and I love having a business and building a business, 711 00:38:43,881 --> 00:38:46,681 Speaker 3: but then like trying to balance that with you know. 712 00:38:46,641 --> 00:38:48,601 Speaker 2: You also don't want to be seen as like a 713 00:38:48,641 --> 00:38:49,441 Speaker 2: bad person. 714 00:38:49,601 --> 00:38:52,001 Speaker 3: Or you know, especially as women too, Like it's not 715 00:38:52,001 --> 00:38:54,761 Speaker 3: even just spiritual, but like as a woman, you're not 716 00:38:54,801 --> 00:38:57,081 Speaker 3: supposed to be too ambitious and you're not supposed to 717 00:38:57,081 --> 00:39:00,361 Speaker 3: be too assertive, and like, you know, your business is 718 00:39:00,401 --> 00:39:02,841 Speaker 3: being a really fucking nice person, so you have to 719 00:39:02,881 --> 00:39:05,721 Speaker 3: like keep that appearance up kind of balance. 720 00:39:05,761 --> 00:39:09,961 Speaker 2: All of those things can feel difficult. 721 00:39:11,001 --> 00:39:14,281 Speaker 1: And I think it's particularly so, like in the spiritual space, 722 00:39:14,921 --> 00:39:17,481 Speaker 1: because there is a lot of judgment around that, like, well, 723 00:39:17,481 --> 00:39:19,921 Speaker 1: if you're really spiritual, you wouldn't be trying to make 724 00:39:19,961 --> 00:39:22,641 Speaker 1: money or a profit out of this, right, Oh, you've 725 00:39:22,641 --> 00:39:25,961 Speaker 1: got natural gifts, Like how dare you charge for those gifts? 726 00:39:26,281 --> 00:39:29,841 Speaker 1: And I always say like, well, okay, that's nice, and 727 00:39:30,281 --> 00:39:32,681 Speaker 1: just you know, like a hard surgeon, they're gifted, aren't 728 00:39:32,681 --> 00:39:35,881 Speaker 1: they They're amazing, they save lives. Like are they meant 729 00:39:35,881 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: to not charge for their services and their skills? No way, 730 00:39:40,561 --> 00:39:42,201 Speaker 1: There's no way that we would go like, I'm not 731 00:39:42,241 --> 00:39:44,721 Speaker 1: going to pay you, because you should be honoring your gifts. 732 00:39:44,761 --> 00:39:47,201 Speaker 1: Even a hairdresser like do we go and get a 733 00:39:47,241 --> 00:39:49,801 Speaker 1: haircut and go, oh, you're so gifted, we shouldn't be charging. 734 00:39:53,161 --> 00:39:54,601 Speaker 2: That's so true. 735 00:39:55,241 --> 00:39:59,041 Speaker 4: Oh, I have just I feel like I've just selfishly 736 00:39:59,161 --> 00:40:03,201 Speaker 4: this has almost just been like me just milking information 737 00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:06,361 Speaker 4: from you and just like make the most of all 738 00:40:06,441 --> 00:40:07,801 Speaker 4: of your wisdom. 739 00:40:07,441 --> 00:40:11,601 Speaker 2: And your business advice and everything. I'm like, I hope 740 00:40:11,641 --> 00:40:14,801 Speaker 2: everyone else has been enjoying this as much as I have. 741 00:40:15,801 --> 00:40:19,761 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for coming and chatting to me 742 00:40:20,001 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 3: and sharing like this is such important information and even just. 743 00:40:23,921 --> 00:40:29,281 Speaker 2: Like the practicality of tarot. Like what I love about. 744 00:40:29,041 --> 00:40:33,321 Speaker 3: Tarot and cards in general is it is a practical tool. 745 00:40:33,881 --> 00:40:37,041 Speaker 3: It's like something that you can hold in your hand. 746 00:40:37,281 --> 00:40:40,321 Speaker 3: It is something that can just be used when you 747 00:40:40,441 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 3: need it, which I think like is so important and 748 00:40:43,521 --> 00:40:46,361 Speaker 3: something that can really help us get out of our 749 00:40:46,401 --> 00:40:47,881 Speaker 3: own heads as well. 750 00:40:48,401 --> 00:40:51,841 Speaker 1: Yes, and it's beautiful like to use that alongside of 751 00:40:52,001 --> 00:40:56,241 Speaker 1: manifesting or you know, creating what you really desire. It's 752 00:40:56,321 --> 00:41:00,561 Speaker 1: it is super powerful and it's also like non threatening, 753 00:41:00,801 --> 00:41:04,161 Speaker 1: right because you talk about all kinds of topics like 754 00:41:04,321 --> 00:41:06,881 Speaker 1: talking ago, some spirits and all that kind of stuff. 755 00:41:07,081 --> 00:41:11,041 Speaker 1: That stuff can seem a little bit scary because it's unseen, unknown, right, 756 00:41:11,801 --> 00:41:15,881 Speaker 1: Taro is like, well, the card said that I'm going 757 00:41:15,921 --> 00:41:18,561 Speaker 1: to meet a nice man on his throne who knows 758 00:41:18,601 --> 00:41:21,241 Speaker 1: his emotions. It's there, It's like in the picture, and 759 00:41:21,321 --> 00:41:24,921 Speaker 1: so it is a beautiful tangible way to go well, actually, 760 00:41:24,961 --> 00:41:27,201 Speaker 1: you know, this is me connecting with my intuition, but 761 00:41:27,241 --> 00:41:30,041 Speaker 1: the card tells me is you know it's a nice 762 00:41:30,201 --> 00:41:33,681 Speaker 1: bridge between the two realms for sure? 763 00:41:34,001 --> 00:41:34,361 Speaker 2: Totally? 764 00:41:34,401 --> 00:41:36,841 Speaker 3: Yeah, Literally, it's a picture, like what is it going 765 00:41:36,881 --> 00:41:37,561 Speaker 3: to do to you? 766 00:41:37,561 --> 00:41:39,481 Speaker 2: You can still if you want, you can still look 767 00:41:39,481 --> 00:41:40,521 Speaker 2: at it and go no. 768 00:41:40,641 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 3: Thank you, or you can take heaps of information out 769 00:41:45,441 --> 00:41:45,641 Speaker 3: of it. 770 00:41:46,081 --> 00:41:48,681 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Bridget. 771 00:41:48,041 --> 00:41:51,681 Speaker 3: Is there anything else, like one last thing that you 772 00:41:51,961 --> 00:41:56,441 Speaker 3: feel like you'd love for people to know about Taro, 773 00:41:56,841 --> 00:41:59,041 Speaker 3: about manifestation, about anything. 774 00:41:59,681 --> 00:42:02,561 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say just get started, Like seriously, you know, 775 00:42:03,001 --> 00:42:05,361 Speaker 1: I think people get a little bit frightened about the 776 00:42:05,521 --> 00:42:07,561 Speaker 1: worry that it's going to take too long to learn 777 00:42:07,601 --> 00:42:10,481 Speaker 1: and master, but hopefully, like what you've experienced in this 778 00:42:10,561 --> 00:42:14,561 Speaker 1: last hour together is that Taro is actually very easy 779 00:42:14,761 --> 00:42:17,321 Speaker 1: to just start using and to use in a very 780 00:42:17,361 --> 00:42:21,521 Speaker 1: powerful way. I'd also like to just offer I've put 781 00:42:21,561 --> 00:42:24,681 Speaker 1: together a special free guide with the four steps of 782 00:42:24,881 --> 00:42:30,001 Speaker 1: intuitive manifesting. So if you want to dive more into 783 00:42:30,561 --> 00:42:34,201 Speaker 1: what intuitive manifesting is really about, go over to bitditaro 784 00:42:34,401 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: dot com forward slash four steps and you'll be able 785 00:42:39,001 --> 00:42:43,321 Speaker 1: to download that guide for free. Hurrah. Plus you'll also 786 00:42:43,401 --> 00:42:46,681 Speaker 1: get all of the details on where to pre order 787 00:42:46,721 --> 00:42:49,921 Speaker 1: the Intuitive Manifesting Book as well. So it's a really 788 00:42:49,921 --> 00:42:52,321 Speaker 1: great way just to get into it, get started and 789 00:42:52,401 --> 00:42:56,401 Speaker 1: start to just experience the magic of Taro and making 790 00:42:56,441 --> 00:42:57,841 Speaker 1: your dreams come true. 791 00:42:58,201 --> 00:42:59,161 Speaker 2: I love that. 792 00:42:59,201 --> 00:43:01,321 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, and I'll put all of the 793 00:43:01,441 --> 00:43:05,401 Speaker 3: information and everything in the show notes. Also, like you 794 00:43:05,521 --> 00:43:08,921 Speaker 3: need one of Bridget's tarot decks. I have one and 795 00:43:08,961 --> 00:43:13,721 Speaker 3: I use it religiously. It's like basically like the it's bent, 796 00:43:14,121 --> 00:43:17,721 Speaker 3: it's in all it's in a well used condition because 797 00:43:17,721 --> 00:43:20,921 Speaker 3: it's so great. Thank you so much, Bridget. It's been 798 00:43:21,081 --> 00:43:23,321 Speaker 3: such an honor to have you on the podcast. And 799 00:43:23,361 --> 00:43:25,561 Speaker 3: I'll make sure that everything is in the show notes 800 00:43:25,601 --> 00:43:30,201 Speaker 3: that people can find you and manifest their dream life. 801 00:43:30,601 --> 00:43:31,921 Speaker 1: Yay, let's do it. 802 00:43:33,001 --> 00:43:33,481 Speaker 2: Thank you.