Speaker 1: Welcome back to Drafted, where we talk all things super
Speaker 1: Coach draft on the Official super Coach Podcast Speed. We're
Speaker 1: talking defender ranks today and to help do so, we
Speaker 1: have Left Dog back with us yet again. How are
Speaker 1: you going, Left Dog?
Speaker 2: I'm well mate, Always a pleasure and it's a very
Speaker 2: special guest today.
Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah. We've got rid of patch for this one
Speaker 1: to bring in the man, the myth, the legend of
Speaker 1: the draft community, a man who's completely sold out. And
Speaker 1: come on the Official super Coach Podcast Stevie Phizz from
Speaker 1: the Draft Doctors. Welcome Stevie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, good a Darsie. Thanks thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: The check cleared so it's all good, mate, it's all good.
Speaker 1: Thanks very much for jumping on, Stevie. We know you
Speaker 1: love your super coach, so gonna go through Lefdog's ranks
Speaker 1: on this list on this podcast today. Sorry, but you
Speaker 1: have let us know in the private group chat just
Speaker 1: to warn you, Lef Dog before we do jump into
Speaker 1: your ranks. Steve has said that he's aiming to tear
Speaker 1: them to shreds. That is a direct quote, tear them
Speaker 1: to shred Stevie. What's this all about?
Speaker 3: Well, he's a Canton. Man, you gotta they usually have
Speaker 3: big preseasons, so you've got to just take them down
Speaker 3: a peg, just humble them a fraction. So now, Alex
Speaker 3: a good Man, I'm sure he's all over it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And honestly, I've got another article coming out to
Speaker 2: walk close to the season where I re rank them,
Speaker 2: so I'll probably just take all of seeds.
Speaker 4: Advice and update them based on that. So it's basically
Speaker 4: free content for me.
Speaker 3: It's win win perfect.
Speaker 1: Well, draft is actually open now, so you can go
Speaker 1: make your league get ready for draft day. Obviously, you
Speaker 1: don't necessarily want to be drafting now, it's a pretty
Speaker 1: distance off. Still, we want to see some practice matches.
Speaker 1: We want to see some some certain games and performances
Speaker 1: and roles from our players before drafting. So but you
Speaker 1: can jump in now and set up those legs. And
Speaker 1: we're actually doing right now a bit of a mock
Speaker 1: draft to get you ready for that season. We'll have
Speaker 1: Lefdog I think we'll be doing some content on that
Speaker 1: as well coming up. But I just wanted to touch
Speaker 1: base with you guys. We're in about the end of
Speaker 1: the just looking now. Actually I think it's your pick.
Speaker 1: Steve now. But we're at the end of the fourth round,
Speaker 1: heading into the fifth Lecdog, Have you noticed anything yet?
Speaker 1: It's still pretty early in the draft. It's a twelve
Speaker 1: team league for those wondering. We've got a bunch of
Speaker 1: content creators jumping on board to help us out with
Speaker 1: this one. But anything you've noticed off the top in
Speaker 1: the early rounds leftoc h.
Speaker 2: No, nothing really going strange. He probably more rucks gone
Speaker 2: at this stage than I thought there would. So we
Speaker 2: had Cherry and Gorne go early in the first round,
Speaker 2: and then there's been You kicked it off actually in
Speaker 2: round two, a bit of a run with Tom Deconnie
Speaker 2: in round two.
Speaker 1: It was a bit early for the big fella. But look,
Speaker 1: I'm high on TDK. Wanted to throw. Yeah, I wanted
Speaker 1: to get the ruck run going nice and early. But Steve,
Speaker 1: have you got any thoughts on just the early part
Speaker 1: of the mock draft at the moment, As I said,
Speaker 1: it's very early. It's only heading into the fifth at
Speaker 1: the moment.
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, i'd probably echo lex thoughts. One thing
Speaker 3: you see as a rule in the expert quote unquote
Speaker 3: drafts is people will sit back on the rucks aside
Speaker 3: from the early guys, so probably to see that big
Speaker 3: run happen when there's maybe a few question marks. I
Speaker 3: know I took Gorn myself, but beyond that, may be
Speaker 3: a little bit surprised seeing how deep at bats and
Speaker 3: maybe some questions being asked if guys like Darcy and Marshall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's a nice little teaser for the upcoming.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what sort of content we're
Speaker 1: going to do. Might be an article, might be a
Speaker 1: little bit of a pod. We'll wait and see for that,
Speaker 1: but keep an eye out for that mock draft coming
Speaker 1: your way soon. Let's get into our defender ranks. The
Speaker 1: way the show has been working, we've been going through
Speaker 1: Lectdog's rankings and then talking about them as we go.
Speaker 1: We are going to go through the top thirty defender
Speaker 1: rankings for Lectdog and we'll kick it off with your
Speaker 1: ranks one to ten in the Defenders.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we'll run through them first and then we
Speaker 2: can dive into a bit of detail. So in Tier one,
Speaker 2: for me, I've got three guys, Harry Sheezel, Jackson Claire,
Speaker 2: and Luke Ryan. Tier two is Jordan Clark and Lockie Whitfield.
Speaker 2: That's your top five, and then you're remaining five. I've
Speaker 2: got Sam Flanders sitting in tier three on his own,
Speaker 2: and we'll talk about him. I'm sure Tier four is
Speaker 2: Wanganeen Malerra, Max Holmes, Nick Martin, and Dan Houston. And
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, that's ten.
Speaker 4: That's ten. There you go, that's your top ten.
Speaker 1: Correct. Well, I mean, I've got a few players I
Speaker 1: want to talk about, but to hand it over to
Speaker 1: the man who wants to tear him to shreds, I
Speaker 1: better get it over to Stevie Fizz and see if
Speaker 1: you've got any specific players you want to talk about
Speaker 1: in this top ten.
Speaker 3: It's probably Luke Ryan is the player who I'm down
Speaker 3: on this season as opposed probably if you're basing your
Speaker 3: ranks sort of around last year's averages, sort of can't
Speaker 3: see that first half especially repeat for Ryan. I think
Speaker 3: he's disposals will come down. He's still obviously a great
Speaker 3: interceptor and still worthy of a top ten pick. I
Speaker 3: think I have him at D six, so I was
Speaker 3: still still like him, But for me, he's actually just
Speaker 3: not that top tier defender. I'm not projecting him that
Speaker 3: way heading into this season. So He's probably a standout
Speaker 3: for me that I might not be as hot on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an interesting one. I mean, just to put
Speaker 1: some numbers to it. I know people have talked about it.
Speaker 1: He talked about the hot start, a bit of a
Speaker 1: slow finish, one hundred and thirty average from rounds one
Speaker 1: to twelve and then one hundred and two super coach
Speaker 1: average from rounds thirteen to twenty four. But leckdog, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just talk us through this third ranking for lu Grin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it was a season of two halves
Speaker 2: last year. I do think there will be a regression there.
Speaker 2: I think we're probably going to expect something closer to
Speaker 2: his twenty twenty three numbers, which was about one hundred
Speaker 2: and ten from memory, which is still pretty decent for
Speaker 2: super Coach. Yeah, there'll be a bit of a drop off,
Speaker 2: but I also know that mate fantasy Freco has been
Speaker 2: tweeting about him, and that is always a good signed preseason.
Speaker 2: So he talked about averaging one hundred and twenty six
Speaker 2: in the games where they played quick and one hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty one of the games where they played slow,
Speaker 2: And that's a sample size of ten games. It's not massive,
Speaker 2: but I just think I think he's still going to
Speaker 2: get one hundred and ten plus it might not be
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixteen, and I think he's a relatively
Speaker 2: safe option. Whereas just talking about the draft we're doing today,
Speaker 2: I took him with my first or second pick. Maybe
Speaker 2: I was actually tempted to take his teammate who I've
Speaker 2: got just below him at fourth, Jordan Clark, ahead of him,
Speaker 2: because I'm pretty high on Jordan Clark, but there was
Speaker 2: nothing to back that up so as in choosing Ryan
Speaker 2: over Clark. So for me, Ryan's still a top tier dude. Sinclair,
Speaker 2: I think's going to be awesome. I know you're not
Speaker 2: on him dos and I know that there's some injury
Speaker 2: concerns over him since I made these rankings, but I
Speaker 2: don't think Heaps is going to Heaps. He's going to
Speaker 2: split Sheeesel, Sinclair and Ryan come the end of the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not as hot on him, but I still think,
Speaker 1: you know, again, very worthy of a top ten pick. Sinclair.
Speaker 1: I'm not off that at all, like the way he
Speaker 1: finished last season. And I mean the more injuries that
Speaker 1: mount as well at Saint Kilda, the more high I'm
Speaker 1: getting on him. Because he's probably going to have plenty
Speaker 1: of the Sharon back there as well, or wherever he plays.
Speaker 1: One player I do want to touch on, Steve, if
Speaker 1: is your thoughts on Sam Flanders at six in the
Speaker 1: rankings after his massive year last year averaging close to
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty super Coach points.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got him at four at the minute and
Speaker 3: I'm not you know, the back thing. He probably needs
Speaker 3: an adjustment. He probably needs an adjustment to come down
Speaker 3: a few spots, So I don't know. I'm where Leck
Speaker 3: has him. I love the player obviously, but yeah, he
Speaker 3: would be okay, all right, you should be fine playing
Speaker 3: through the midfield for gold Coast.
Speaker 2: I did actually have him at six before the injury news,
Speaker 2: so just to fan those flames. But for me, there's
Speaker 2: just it was just a question mark on where exactly
Speaker 2: I think he's going to score. Well, I don't think
Speaker 2: he's going to score on hundred and twenty points a game.
Speaker 2: I just I don't know the suns in the same
Speaker 2: way you do, mate.
Speaker 4: I just I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know where he plays, and that's enough for
Speaker 2: me to drop him down the ranks.
Speaker 4: A couple of picks.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, Was there any other players you wanted to touch
Speaker 1: on Steve before we move to the next sort of
Speaker 1: ten of ranks.
Speaker 3: I've actually got Houston at D three, so he's a
Speaker 3: player I'm far more comfortable selecting than Leck. You probably
Speaker 3: get him at a better value than that. I think
Speaker 3: he's got a lot of room for improvement at Collingwood.
Speaker 3: You know, he never had the kick in Chare at
Speaker 3: Port Adelaide. There should be plenty of intercepts for him
Speaker 3: at Collingwood. So I actually, I think he's got a
Speaker 3: lot of upside. Really, he's someone who I could take
Speaker 3: as a Tier one defender who you don't necessarily have
Speaker 3: to draft there. Allo, I'm pretty early in the mock.
Speaker 2: He did go very early in the in the mock,
Speaker 2: I've actually I mean, I won't bore you with all
Speaker 2: the details, but I do track super coach averages like
Speaker 2: of by position of players when they move clubs over
Speaker 2: the years, and generally defenders do, like particularly in the
Speaker 2: Dan Houston role, do see an uptick, especially in that
Speaker 2: first year that they move across.
Speaker 4: So I think there's room for improvement for him there.
Speaker 4: But he's he's just someone.
Speaker 2: That's never I've never really gelled with and there's a
Speaker 2: bit of bias in this where he falls into this
Speaker 2: category where with me with Malaria Holmes and Martin who
Speaker 2: I'm probably emphasizing their upside based on their age and
Speaker 2: experience over his upside on roll and I mean, flip
Speaker 2: a coin. I know I'm lower on Houston than a
Speaker 2: lot of people are out there.
Speaker 1: I think we can move on to the next batch
Speaker 1: of plais Your ranks eleven through to twenty.
Speaker 2: All right, let's pull it up eleven through twenty. Okay,
Speaker 2: so Tier five we have my boy Bailey Dale and
Speaker 2: Jayden Short Tiers six, these are the old blokes Dane Zorco,
Speaker 2: Tom Stewart, James Cicily, Jeremy McGovern We're going to call
Speaker 2: that the old bloke tier. Then we've got in Tier
Speaker 2: seven Nick Blakey, Colby mckircher, Maddie Roberts, and rounding out
Speaker 2: the top twenty is And there's plenty of guys in
Speaker 2: Tier eight here, but the twentieth player on my list
Speaker 2: is Mitch Hinge, who was just one of my favorite
Speaker 2: blokes to draft in the Super Coach.
Speaker 1: I want to specifically talk about a guy who finished
Speaker 1: last year incredibly hot and I'll then I'll get your
Speaker 1: takes cebe fizzed. But I really like Matt Roberts a
Speaker 1: fair bit higher than nineteen this year. Came home firing
Speaker 1: last year, averaging over one hundred towards the back half
Speaker 1: of the season. He's got a ridiculously high kicking percentage.
Speaker 1: I think the fan to mentioned it on our podcast
Speaker 1: about Classic yesterday that we recorded, and it was saying
Speaker 1: like eighty four percent kicking efficiency and it was one
Speaker 1: of the highest in the league for people over twelve
Speaker 1: kicks a game. So he's a guy that Sydney I
Speaker 1: think will rely on to distribute the ball out of
Speaker 1: the back half. And I've kind of got him. I
Speaker 1: think I've got him all the way up at ten
Speaker 1: in my recent ranking. Sign I'm super high on Maddi
Speaker 1: Roberts this year. But Stevie Fears, have you got any
Speaker 1: notable players there that you'd like to speak through and
Speaker 1: your thoughts on Matt Roberts as well.
Speaker 3: I mean, Matt Roberts I find tricky because it's not
Speaker 3: a huge sample size. New coach too, I will say,
Speaker 3: James Cecily, I can't have a bar of it, man.
Speaker 3: I can't have it. I've got him at D thirty.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, just.
Speaker 3: Don't want him? Well, I mean, you think about it
Speaker 3: like this, is he going to play forward? I tend
Speaker 3: to over the years, I've tended to if I'm down
Speaker 3: on someone, I don't move them down five spots, I'll
Speaker 3: move them down a dozen spots. So I can't have
Speaker 3: it with the uncertainty.
Speaker 2: I am so Cecily, I have what's that? What do
Speaker 2: I have him at fifteenth for defenders? But I actually
Speaker 2: have him a lot lower in my overall rankings just
Speaker 2: the way it panned out, and he dropped like seventy
Speaker 2: or eighty spots year on year for me in the rankings.
Speaker 2: So I'm also concerned by him, particularly with that questionable
Speaker 2: tall forward line at Hawthorne. It's not specifically the fear
Speaker 2: that he'll go forward for me, but there is uncertainty
Speaker 2: there and they've added in, you know, two big elements
Speaker 2: into that back line. So I appreciate the fear and
Speaker 2: having thirtieth. Having him thirtieth is probably makes sense just
Speaker 2: for me. I'm like, if I if I'm looking, if
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there and you're forcing me to pick someone,
Speaker 2: it during the Live draft and I've got Cicily or
Speaker 2: my boy who I love, Mitch Hinge.
Speaker 4: I'm probably just.
Speaker 2: Going to take Cecily ahead just because of I don't
Speaker 2: know he's going to play theoretically everything unless he punching
Speaker 2: people again. So yeah, he is a difficult player to
Speaker 2: I don't want him on my team. I'm going to
Speaker 2: avoid drafting him if I can.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of fossils in the list, as you
Speaker 1: did mention Lek, that you've been, you know, potentially harsh
Speaker 1: on if you look at just their average of last year.
Speaker 1: But you're really kind of, you know, factoring in the
Speaker 1: age you've mentioned in like a couple of previous podcasts
Speaker 1: that you're not you certainly give a bigger hit to
Speaker 1: players with an injury history as well. So these guys
Speaker 1: certainly would tick that box as well. But Jeremy McGovern
Speaker 1: and Dane Zorco, if you just looked at their average
Speaker 1: from last year, would be a lot higher up the list.
Speaker 1: But Stevie, are you as harsh on players that you
Speaker 1: know have had standout seasons like they did, played probably
Speaker 1: irregularly high games for their traditional histories? Are you sort
Speaker 1: of dropping them as far as you know Jeremy McGovern
Speaker 1: at sixteen and Dane Zorco at thirteen.
Speaker 3: Man, I love Zorko, like I find the injury narrative
Speaker 3: around Zora kind of puzzling. He's basically played twenty plus
Speaker 3: games every year, So I don't know, Man's I mean,
Speaker 3: if you're playing twenty games, I'm pretty happy with that.
Speaker 3: So I've got him far higher than then Lack. I
Speaker 3: understand dropping guys like that, and Jeremy McGovern's I've got
Speaker 3: him at twenty four, and it's not because he's old.
Speaker 3: It's just because he, you know, spends more time in
Speaker 3: the medical tent than Alan Alder. There's an old man
Speaker 3: reference for you people. So yeah, it's so fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like zork he had twenty three last year, had seventeen,
Speaker 2: nineteen twenty one, like their acceptable game amounts. It's just
Speaker 2: it's when those games happen, and I just if I'm
Speaker 2: given the choice between someone who, like I just don't
Speaker 2: want that injury to happen in the game where I
Speaker 2: need to win to make finals, or that first week
Speaker 2: of finals or whatever. So I bumped those guys down.
Speaker 2: McGovern's the same, Like, yeah, had a very good year
Speaker 2: but how often does he do it? Well, he doesn't
Speaker 2: do it. So it's this is a Bill Simmons line.
Speaker 2: But I like my footy players to play footy and
Speaker 2: Jimmy McGovern doesn't do that. Tom Stewart, I'll just touch
Speaker 2: on His isn't an age thing. His is more of
Speaker 2: a role thing. We saw him move sort of from
Speaker 2: back line to the wing to sort of outside. He
Speaker 2: inside midtime last year, and I carried him in Classic
Speaker 2: for most of last year, and he was fine towards
Speaker 2: the end of the year. But I just there was
Speaker 2: enough uncertainty and they've acquired enough talent that I'm just
Speaker 2: just happy to push him down a little bit.
Speaker 1: Just want one. I want to talk about one more
Speaker 1: players that the hat bros As you like to call him,
Speaker 1: Stevie Fizz, are getting around a bit. Jaden Short up
Speaker 1: at twelve. So the Classic community is getting quite a
Speaker 1: bit around Jaden Short as a player that you could
Speaker 1: return to some great heights given I think his average
Speaker 1: was only in the eighties low eighties last year. He's
Speaker 1: done ninety plus in the past, and the Tigers, obviously
Speaker 1: it's presumably going to be in their back line quite
Speaker 1: a bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not as hot on short. I've got him
Speaker 3: at seventeen, and I'll probably end up moving him down.
Speaker 3: I'm just not sure he's very good at this point.
Speaker 3: Like I know that's harsh, Like he's obviously a good player,
Speaker 3: but I don't know if maybe the best has passed him.
Speaker 3: And I don't really want many parts of that Richmond
Speaker 3: team to be perfectly.
Speaker 1: Fair, absolutely fair. Can we talk.
Speaker 3: About Max Holmes? Because I know people like Max Holmes
Speaker 3: and I love the player, but there's a guy, you know,
Speaker 3: you talk about Tom Stewart getting split around, Like if
Speaker 3: Max Holmes is playing like, let's say, forty percent inside
Speaker 3: midfield and then a lot of the time on the wing,
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit casual about him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, and I think that's fair enough for me.
Speaker 2: I'm sort of hoping that they transitioned him back into
Speaker 2: and again you don't want to hope when you're drafting,
Speaker 2: but transition him behind the ball a bit more.
Speaker 4: I didn't love.
Speaker 2: From a super co perspective perspective that when he was
Speaker 2: on the wing and stuff. But the other thing you
Speaker 2: have to understand is that if I drafted someone in
Speaker 2: a dynasty league, they get bumped up the rankings. And now,
Speaker 2: admittedly I did trade Max Holmes to try and go
Speaker 2: for a back to back flag in my main dynasty league,
Speaker 2: but I did draft him, so I did call it,
Speaker 2: and that as a result, he does get a bump.
Speaker 3: I think he's really a really, really good outside player,
Speaker 3: which is the problem, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, that is a problem. What I want to see.
Speaker 2: What I want to see is how they use like
Speaker 2: a Bailey Smith because he's and I don't know if
Speaker 2: we'll get to to the forwards. I don't actually think
Speaker 2: Bailey Smith is that good in terms of super coach
Speaker 2: or football, but I understand that everyone else does. So
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see how that whole side sort of
Speaker 2: shakes up. And I'm just hoping that there's enough kind
Speaker 2: of outside players there that they just shove Homes behind
Speaker 2: the ball and trust that he can kick it to
Speaker 2: a teammate.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at games at which he attends did
Speaker 1: like if he's going to be more of an inside
Speaker 1: mid the games he attended fifty percent plus center bounces
Speaker 1: and he averaged over one hundred in those It's nine games,
Speaker 1: like it's not a massive sample last year, but I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe that's just what people are going off.
Speaker 1: If he's going to play a bit more inside mid,
Speaker 1: even if he plays a defender. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't dislike the pick. I just yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like i'd be I mean, talk about injury prone.
Speaker 1: I think this guy could certainly tick that box. Twenty
Speaker 1: five games last year, but still managed to do a
Speaker 1: hamstring right at the end of the season. So always
Speaker 1: seems to have those those hamstring concerns. With the high
Speaker 1: explosive game that he sort of plays. Hopefully he can
Speaker 1: get his body right. Let's talk about twenty one to thirty.
Speaker 2: Lek al Right, Well, this is where you get into
Speaker 2: a bit of fun. So I've got Trent Rivers in
Speaker 2: at twenty one. He's a Tier eight guy alongside John
Speaker 2: Noble and Carl Aimon and Mitch Hinge who.
Speaker 4: Was in the top twenty. Kellum Mills is low.
Speaker 2: I know he's going to be low compared to what
Speaker 2: most people think. At tier nine, I've got Kellum Mills,
Speaker 2: Harry Similberg, Daniel Rioli, Adam Sad, Andrew mcgrah and Kellum Wilkie.
Speaker 2: In thirtieth is Kiddeen Coleman, who I think might actually
Speaker 2: be injured at the moment, so that doesn't bode necessarily
Speaker 2: very well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, as you mentioned, you did these ranks, yeah,
Speaker 1: before the last couple of weeks, and that it's a
Speaker 1: long time in pre seasons sometimes. Yeah, Kitty, you'd imagine
Speaker 1: you bump that down. He's not going to be coming
Speaker 1: back until you know, a few rounds into the season
Speaker 1: at the very earliest. From what we've heard, he's.
Speaker 4: Bump up Rory Atkins instead.
Speaker 1: Then let's talk Callum Mills. Steve ifi is, what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts on him this season?
Speaker 3: D nine for me? D nine, And I've seen him higher, man,
Speaker 3: I've seen him higher.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm pretty I'm pretty high. I think I've
Speaker 1: got thirteen. I'm just sort of on the edge of
Speaker 1: I might even bring him higher if I see even
Speaker 1: more midfield stuff and also seeing Stevie's higher on him,
Speaker 1: so bump him up. As we've mentioned the draft guru here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: walk us through why you're not high on him, like
Speaker 1: twenty fourth overall in your ranks in defender.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's the play football factor, it's the new
Speaker 2: coach factor, it's the Angus Angus Sheldrick hype factor. I mean,
Speaker 2: if Sheldrick's in, you can't have Mills in.
Speaker 4: There as well. But you know, he is a leader.
Speaker 2: He is going to want to prove himself after what
Speaker 2: was he doing wrestling preseason and snapped his arm last year. Like,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of reasons for him to prove his output.
Speaker 2: And he's definitely one that, like you look at this list,
Speaker 2: he's going to get a bump. But my initial reaction
Speaker 2: to him was just I just didn't trust him essentially
Speaker 2: fair enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting where he goes. And Steve,
Speaker 1: as you said, I think people got him high. It's
Speaker 1: going to be fascinating where Calum Mills goes in draft.
Speaker 1: I think you know, we talked about a guy like
Speaker 1: Clayton Oliver last year, are expecting a big bounce back,
Speaker 1: but his draft range could be wildly different in each draft.
Speaker 1: I'd imagine the same with Calum Mills, just given his
Speaker 1: injury history, given his role, given his all these different things.
Speaker 1: But the defender status, does you know, it's always tempting
Speaker 1: and if you've got him D nine, you'd be happy
Speaker 1: drafting him early. I want to talk about Trent Rivers
Speaker 1: as well. Twenty one what's your thoughts on him, Steve?
Speaker 1: Some talk he's going to move into more of a
Speaker 1: midfield role. He's got defender mid status twenty one. Where
Speaker 1: are you sitting on?
Speaker 3: Trent Rivers actually have him in the exact same spot,
Speaker 3: I believe it or not, So I don't mind Rivers.
Speaker 3: Obviously it's a hard midfield to maybe get points in,
Speaker 3: So I think twenty I wouldn't want him as any
Speaker 3: higher than my D three, so I'd be Yeah, he's
Speaker 3: a player I think has limited upside, but I like
Speaker 3: because he's got a good role.
Speaker 1: A couple of sons here and lack your thoughts on
Speaker 1: I see a lot of like you've got John Noble,
Speaker 1: You've got Daniel Rioli, you know Will Powell to reveal
Speaker 1: the bring back the curtain. He's at thirty three as well,
Speaker 1: so you've sort of are you thinking it's going to
Speaker 1: be a bit more mouse to feed back there this
Speaker 1: year and no one person really takes the bulk of points.
Speaker 2: I think it is a bit more mouse to feed
Speaker 2: if Flanders is playing, you know less behind the ball
Speaker 2: than he did at stages last year. I'm a big
Speaker 2: John nobleman. I'm not sure why, but I'm just think.
Speaker 1: John Steve the audio listener, Steve is shaking his head
Speaker 1: right now, can to get his thoughts in a second.
Speaker 4: I've always loved John Noble. I don't know why.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's because he looks kind of rattish, but I'm
Speaker 2: supportive of him and Daniel Reol. I just think if
Speaker 2: you go and acquire two guys who play essentially exclusively
Speaker 2: off the half back, your intention is to play them
Speaker 2: there especially. I mean, I know Gold Coast trade with
Speaker 2: pretend picks and they don't actually value them, so it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. But if you're given way assets to get
Speaker 2: those guys in, I think there's intent there. Noble similar
Speaker 2: Rivers is like a D four guy D five, but
Speaker 2: he'll score your eighty five points and he has a
Speaker 2: cap of above one hundred, so I've got him in there.
Speaker 2: And then, yes, will Power's a little bit lower, just
Speaker 2: because I think he's when I was doing the depth charts,
Speaker 2: He's just sort of the one that was slightly unlucky
Speaker 2: with that acquisition Lens over the team.
Speaker 1: I feel like will Power has been a perennial guy
Speaker 1: in keeper leagues where coaches is just waiting for the
Speaker 1: role to emerge, and every time it did, he seemingly
Speaker 1: got injured right as he was about to step into
Speaker 1: this prime role. And now he's got a couple more
Speaker 1: people to contend with. Steve, your thoughts on the Suns
Speaker 1: mix in the defensive defensive line, Yeah, well there's a.
Speaker 3: Lot to play out. I Suspectabile Powell plays more lockdown
Speaker 3: on the medium size forwards. I like dan Uriali enough,
Speaker 3: he's in the in the twenties. For me, he should
Speaker 3: be fine. I'm obviously not as hot on Noble as Leck.
Speaker 3: I don't have some affection for him. I have no
Speaker 3: affection when the trade went through, why would we do that?
Speaker 3: But anyway, it was.
Speaker 2: A perplexing trait just for the record, and that's why
Speaker 2: I think he has to have a role because otherwise
Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, these are AFL recruiters that you know
Speaker 3: sometimes don't always do what makes sense. There's a lot
Speaker 3: of mouse, there's a lot of potential in the half
Speaker 3: back line for the Suns, and the Sons are actually
Speaker 3: pretty good moving the ball just broke down going forward.
Speaker 3: So actually there were strange recruitments to me. I understand
Speaker 3: Daniello's quality player, so like that, I just I can't
Speaker 3: trust John Noble. I don't know that he's a very
Speaker 3: efficient player. I don't know that he's better some of
Speaker 3: these other guys. And I find it hard to rank
Speaker 3: so many sons particularly high.
Speaker 2: That's fair, I mean, that's all fair, bute, And I guess,
Speaker 2: I guess what I should have probably done is bump
Speaker 2: them all lower because I had question marks.
Speaker 4: Over all of them.
Speaker 2: But I think one of them is going to provide
Speaker 2: that D four maybe D three value.
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be John Noble.
Speaker 2: Spoiler, you'll work out which person from the Sun's back
Speaker 2: line I got in a mid season draft in my
Speaker 2: dynasty league. But I do think in that carl I
Speaker 2: mean Mills is obviously going to get bumped up, but
Speaker 2: in that Sad has an opportunity just by role, of
Speaker 2: course question marks over his body. I think Really and
Speaker 2: Noble have been brought in to fulfill a role. Carl
Speaker 2: Amon's role is always very defined. He just doesn't always
Speaker 2: deliver the points we want. I think anyone in this
Speaker 2: sort of tier eight tier nine range for me, and
Speaker 2: maybe I'll concede kelm Mills should be a little high.
Speaker 2: It's all a little bit of a crapshoot in there
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 1: Any players on the list Stevie Fizz in this top
Speaker 1: thirty absent that you you know, surprised and missing.
Speaker 3: Probably Liam Duggan. I think Dugan should play midfield straight
Speaker 3: away for West Coast. With what's going on there, he'd
Speaker 3: probably be the standout one. I guess you'd say I
Speaker 3: have lost an in, so probably I'm a little bit
Speaker 3: down on short compared to consensus, and I'm a little
Speaker 3: bit happier to draft I've lost and a lot of
Speaker 3: the players are very similar though. Steve Mayer, I'll have
Speaker 3: him there. He's pretty consistent, always has the kick ins
Speaker 3: and can take an inter set for Melbourne, So I like,
Speaker 3: you know, those two things are pretty good for supercoach,
Speaker 3: pretty good player. But yeah, probably not wildly different. I
Speaker 3: guess you'd say.
Speaker 2: Liam Duggan's probably a good shout. I had him in
Speaker 2: my top one hundred last year and he just slipped out,
Speaker 2: and preseason if he's in the team, he'll probably push
Speaker 2: his way in. I think that's a good shout. Boston
Speaker 2: had a had a like a really underrated last couple
Speaker 2: of years for super Coach. He's a good play and
Speaker 2: I think he's the perfect sort of draft if he
Speaker 2: can get of it. I don't know, D four, D five,
Speaker 2: whatever it is. He'll serve you well.
Speaker 1: Before we wrap things up, and I'll give you a
Speaker 1: bit of time. I'll pad for you, guys, because this
Speaker 1: is a question I've thrown in there at the last minute. Here,
Speaker 1: I want your sleeper this season in the defensive line
Speaker 1: as well. So we'll get to that and I'll mention
Speaker 1: my guy. I've just got to mention him on every
Speaker 1: podcast this preseason, but I'm going with Ari shawen Maker
Speaker 1: as my sleeper in drafts. I think he's going to
Speaker 1: step in and just take a massive role in the
Speaker 1: defensive line for Saint Kilda. I think there's there's room
Speaker 1: for him there. There's as much as we've got two
Speaker 1: of the top ten defenders according to Lex Ranks here
Speaker 1: playing at Saint Kilda in Jack Sinclair and Zaia Wanganeen Miller,
Speaker 1: I think there is going to be room for him there.
Speaker 1: We saw Riley Bonner, for goodness sake last year playing
Speaker 1: a defensive key role as a distributor out of the
Speaker 1: Saint Kilter back line. Ari shall Maker's got a booming kick,
Speaker 1: a great disposal. I know he's only nineteen twenty years old,
Speaker 1: but this guy's booming left pegs just unbelievable to watch.
Speaker 1: I think he'll be taking some kick ins and have
Speaker 1: a significant role given especially they've had a couple of
Speaker 1: early injuries. Dougal Howard's going to be out for a bit,
Speaker 1: Josh Battles left the club. I think they've had a
Speaker 1: couple of other injuries as well. So Iri shall Maker,
Speaker 1: for me, hopefully I've padded a long enough for you
Speaker 1: guys to sort out your sleeper. Leck, you look ready
Speaker 1: to go. Who have you got for us?
Speaker 4: Look?
Speaker 2: I think so a guy we've sort of mentioned him,
Speaker 2: A guy of at twentieth. I think Mitch Hinge is
Speaker 2: really good and I think he probably gets overlooked in
Speaker 2: a lot of drafts.
Speaker 4: I don't know what his ADP is.
Speaker 2: I think I've got him at twenty and I reckon
Speaker 2: you can probably get him as like he'll probably be
Speaker 2: the thirtieth to fortieth defender that goes off in Super Coach.
Speaker 2: He still has that tag of injury prone, even though
Speaker 2: he played it hell of a lot of games last year.
Speaker 2: Other than that. I said it kind of jokingly. I
Speaker 2: do think there's a world where your last pick is
Speaker 2: the rat Rory Atkins, or you pick him up off
Speaker 2: the wave of wire and he surprises you for at
Speaker 2: least a few weeks.
Speaker 4: Because there's a.
Speaker 2: Dan Houston size hole down in Port Adelaide and it's
Speaker 2: got Rory Atkins name all over.
Speaker 1: It was taking kick ins at training the other day
Speaker 1: when I was having a look. I know it's very early,
Speaker 1: Caine Farrell was not training. I'm growing higher on Caine
Speaker 1: Farrell the more I look at that Port defensive line
Speaker 1: though it you know there's a big hole there. Steve,
Speaker 1: before you tell us your sleeper, what are your thoughts
Speaker 1: on how that shakes out at Port Adelaide, Because you know,
Speaker 1: as you said, you've got Dan Houston so high he
Speaker 1: was mopping up a lot of points in that defensive
Speaker 1: line for Port.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great point. And I think Kane Farrell's
Speaker 3: the obvious choice, which is weird because I've sort of
Speaker 3: suggested he was a good shout all along this preseason.
Speaker 3: Lek has him higher in his ranks than I do,
Speaker 3: but I still think it's the it's the right area
Speaker 3: to be looking, whether you want to look at Bergman
Speaker 3: or Farrell or someone else. Even that's absolutely a spot
Speaker 3: where I think drafters should be taking a look late
Speaker 3: in drafts if you want to go. I mean, Perriman's
Speaker 3: probably someone we haven't mentioned to. You know, could absolutely
Speaker 3: get into that top thirty range. Probably a real sleeper.
Speaker 3: I know he's starting to get a little bit of
Speaker 3: heat in the salary cap world, is Sam de coning.
Speaker 3: If he does assume that rock roll, it should be
Speaker 3: good point scoring. I don't think you could be confident,
Speaker 3: but it's the sort of thing you can do late
Speaker 3: in the drafts where the pick doesn't maybe mean as
Speaker 3: much if you have to throw the player back into
Speaker 3: the pool.
Speaker 1: Awesome thanks Stevie Fizz Well. You can check out Lekdog's
Speaker 1: top one hundred ranks and plenty of other great articles
Speaker 1: through with super Coach and super Coach Draft at Code Sports.
Speaker 1: Steve Fizz as well, you put together an awesome draft
Speaker 1: kit every year. You've got a lot of info in
Speaker 1: there for super coach drafters as well. Why don't you
Speaker 1: just walk us through what you've got. You've put together
Speaker 1: this pre season and you've done for the last few years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the Draft Doctors Draft Kit, it's on the
Speaker 3: website if you're interested in that. It's fifteen player profiles
Speaker 3: from each club draft range where we think they should
Speaker 3: be selected, projected averages, our the riders picks, all that
Speaker 3: sort of stuff. So yeah, and all the ranks which
Speaker 3: are getting updated this Friday, the fourteenth. Is it fourteenth?
Speaker 3: So yeah, we update the ranks a few times each year.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's a bit of fun as well.
Speaker 1: So not only busy Valentine's Day, Busy Valentine's Day for you.
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