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Speaker 1: The big Footy issues from every angle, dissected by a

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Speaker 1: team that follows the game closer than anyone else wherever

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Speaker 1: you are around the planet. This is your ultimate guide

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Speaker 1: to the AFL. This is the Fox Footy Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Two rounds left one team locked into the eighth and

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Speaker 2: zero idea. Who'll finished the night? A dramatic round twenty

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Speaker 2: two plays prelude to an exciting final fortnight and will

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Speaker 2: break it all down on the Fox Footy Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 2: Max Lawton, filling in for Ben Walworth, who's out serving justice.

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Speaker 2: Turns out its almost finals is not an excuse to

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Speaker 2: get out of jury duty. But joining me this week

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Speaker 2: firstly is the man who can tell us whether early

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Speaker 2: August counts as the start of summer. Will Faulkner, great question, Max,

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Speaker 2: welcome a question, Thank you Max. It's good to be here,

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Speaker 2: A question asked by many. I think it is not no, no,

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Speaker 2: So the first ball of the summer going for six

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Speaker 2: was not the first ball of the summer T twenty

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Speaker 2: between Australia and South Africa and Darwin.

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Speaker 3: Possibly the first time that sentence has ever been said,

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Speaker 3: no first six of the winter. I think it is

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Speaker 3: a nice unique tone to it. That's fair in Australia,

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Speaker 3: but no, not the first six of the summer, unfortunately.

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Speaker 3: I'd love to know what our third Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Well also joining us. He's a bigger fan of the

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Speaker 2: hundred as we know. A man who would never get

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Speaker 2: with a minute left in a one goal game, Jack Drovinofski.

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Speaker 4: Yes, no, I probably wouldn't. But I can say my

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Speaker 4: eyes popped out of my brain when I saw Falkner's

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Speaker 2: What what oh?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Led the legs? Okay, are you wearing shorts?

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Speaker 3: I'm wearing shorts for listeners who like a more visual

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Speaker 3: representation of what I might look like behind a mircrophone.

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Speaker 3: And it's my day off today, so I come in

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Speaker 2: That's very Melbourne, is it not. Yeah, that's adjusting to Melbourne.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I've always been a shorts guy, and I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It hasn't been that bad a winter.

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Speaker 2: So well, was nineteen yesterday, wasn't it?

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Speaker 3: Quite? Not nineteen sunny?

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Speaker 4: Not today?

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Speaker 3: But we'll do that.

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Speaker 2: Well all right, Well, let's skip through the fashion segment

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Speaker 2: and probably talk about the finals, I guess, which are

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Speaker 2: coming up very soon. The top nine, which we've known

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Speaker 2: continues to get dramatic. So let's run through the scenarios

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Speaker 2: for the contenders and do a little vibe check maybe

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Speaker 2: how we think they're all going, what we think their

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Speaker 2: finals as well. So we start, of course with Adelaide

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Speaker 2: the only team locked into the eight despite finishing fifteenth

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Speaker 2: last year. It's quite remarkable. One more win will lock

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Speaker 2: them into the top two. They finished with Collingwood at

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Speaker 2: home and North Melbourne away will are the Crows the

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Speaker 3: I think almost at this stage by default, because they're

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Speaker 3: I think Adelaide probably walks away from their win over

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Speaker 3: What Matthew X said, it felt like a loss. Yeah

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Speaker 3: he did, he did, and he said that West Coast

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Speaker 3: I think this is almost the exception where this act,

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Speaker 3: So I think they have a lot of learnings out

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Speaker 2: You know you can get nineteen relegated somehow.

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Speaker 4: They are the number one team out for points against

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Speaker 3: Yes, one hundred percent. And they're one team that I

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Speaker 3: feel very confident Max, You've got them at the top

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Speaker 2: That, Yes, and very good chance that could be a

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Speaker 2: Yes, very exciting or less so for Geelong. Of course,

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Speaker 2: I'd rather not remember that game. No, they have to

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Speaker 3: So do you think they're number one by default or

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Speaker 2: No, No, I think it's such an even comp that, like

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Speaker 2: So everyone pretty much agrees that we're not going to

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Speaker 2: Second place is Geelong. We mentioned them they finished with

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Speaker 2: that in mind for home final discussions. One more win

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Speaker 2: last two. Jack, does it matter that the Cats have

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Speaker 2: had a soft run into September. I don't believe they've

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it does matter. I think it helps.

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Speaker 2: It's like seventy five percent. I think it was.

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Speaker 4: That's right. So Geelong on the other hand have that

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Speaker 4: But I've got no concerns about Geelong under Chris Scott.

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Speaker 4: They've maintained their health really well. They don't have you know,

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Speaker 4: they've had good continuity. The one thing with Collingwood is

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Speaker 3: We're saying that Sydney's a heat check this weekend.

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Speaker 2: I think I think Sydney counts as a test are

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Speaker 2: for most people. But I'm not thinking that it's going

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Speaker 4: Well, the gaming and Sydney shapes as that test because

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Speaker 4: So I think that counts as a genuine test going

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Speaker 4: I think I'm actually tipping Sydney.

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Speaker 2: That's entirely reasonable.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Collingwood sits third despite their loss to

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Speaker 2: Hawthorne and all all the other ones they have copped recently.

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Speaker 2: They finished with Adelaide away a monster game on Saturday

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Speaker 2: one because if they lose to Adelaide, Collingwood probably need

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Speaker 2: to beat Melbourne in the final round to clinch finals,

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Speaker 2: although I still think it is quite unluckly they miss

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Speaker 3: I think they're right on the edge from what I've

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Speaker 2: That's how close this still is. So Jack, are you

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Speaker 3: And if they know if they push for that, tell

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Speaker 2: But yes, I think Brisbane won neither fourteen and a

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Speaker 3: One of them is just gonna be round lucky.

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Speaker 4: Yes, there is surely no world, but we're talking about

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Speaker 3: No, no, absolutely not, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Grossly unfair and I don't think that will happen. And

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Speaker 3: I'm not as optimistic as Jack that Brisbane are definitely

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Speaker 3: So definitely no, sorry, so sorry, very very confident Cock.

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Speaker 3: I think bringing the opposite of the fantastic. I'm not

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Speaker 3: But similar to Freo playing the Dogs at Marvel in

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Speaker 2: The Gabba, which is where they have not been playing well,

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Speaker 3: On the on face value, you probably think that's the

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Speaker 2: That would be a huge game on the Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: I like that they put that last effectively over in

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Speaker 4: The way tipping Fremantle.

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Speaker 3: I think I would tip fram Yeah, yeah, look at it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I will.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you don't get to decide if he locks it.

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Speaker 2: He sends me his tips and then I put there McGuire, Yeah, and.

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Speaker 4: We've got the proof I needed.

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Speaker 2: Now Okay, well there you go. Just these two seriously

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Speaker 4: I think they are, and I think it's because of

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Speaker 2: The thing that they remind me of so much and

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Speaker 2: So the Giants finished I think it was third or fourth.

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Speaker 2: That's historic. First step forward they're clearly going to be

436
00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,640
Speaker 2: in a position where the bracket sets up for them.

437
00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,720
Speaker 2: I think at worst, they're going to host a final

438
00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,960
Speaker 2: at home, and they've played so well at home for

439
00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,040
Speaker 2: the last few years they have to beat that'd be

440
00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,680
Speaker 2: a big chance to beat anyone really once they're there.

441
00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,480
Speaker 4: So you think it's a fail if they make the

442
00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:30,399
Speaker 4: finals and lose.

443
00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because they're going to finish with sixteen or

444
00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,200
Speaker 2: seventeen wins, right, that's a crazy.

445
00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,399
Speaker 4: Good year where fifteen wins could miss and they've never

446
00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,240
Speaker 4: played finals before. You don't think it's a pass for

447
00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:39,720
Speaker 4: them just to.

448
00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,920
Speaker 2: Get there, no, because you can the content that there's.

449
00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,600
Speaker 4: This expectation that teams who don't play in the finals

450
00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:45,880
Speaker 4: in the years previous, but.

451
00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,280
Speaker 2: They typically it's about fifty to fifty half of them

452
00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:49,880
Speaker 2: end up just not winning a final. They go out

453
00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,480
Speaker 2: first week and the best performance I think by a

454
00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,800
Speaker 2: finals debutante is making a prelim. So the Giants losing

455
00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,760
Speaker 2: a prelim. Adelaide lost a prelim their first finals appearance

456
00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,560
Speaker 2: in the early nineties, so that sort of thing would

457
00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,280
Speaker 2: be an incredible result to get to a preliment. Fel

458
00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,320
Speaker 2: the Suns but if they lose a qualifying final and

459
00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,520
Speaker 2: win a semi final, I'm absolutely thrilled they go out

460
00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,520
Speaker 2: in straight sets. It's incredibly disappointing. They've set themselves up

461
00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,439
Speaker 2: some success, but no one expected it.

462
00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,240
Speaker 3: I tend to agree. I don't think you could lose

463
00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,320
Speaker 3: back to back games at people First Stadium a Carara

464
00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,320
Speaker 3: and consider, well, if.

465
00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,200
Speaker 4: It's if it's so, let's go by the run home

466
00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,520
Speaker 4: when they're playing Gelong at the MCG, which I personally

467
00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,240
Speaker 4: would give them no chance to win a qualifying final,

468
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,920
Speaker 4: surprising if they lose that and then play up in

469
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,720
Speaker 4: Gold Coast in a semian lose against another finalist who

470
00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,200
Speaker 4: was one at least fifteen games, we're calling that a fail.

471
00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,959
Speaker 3: So it would be one of Adelaide Collingwood.

472
00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,679
Speaker 2: Is that no, so they playing they'd be playing one

473
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,560
Speaker 2: of the elimination final winners, So it would be based

474
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,880
Speaker 2: on my bracket. I've got to actually look at my top.

475
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,160
Speaker 4: Eight Lions Bulldogs Frio Hawthorne.

476
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they'd be on the Lions or Bulldog side

477
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 2: of the bracket. So hosting Breath again, very good chance.

478
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,520
Speaker 2: A Pineapple Grapple semi final.

479
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,280
Speaker 4: Then they have historically and they only just got over

480
00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 4: that hum ago against Brisbane. It gets the big brother. Now, yes, yeah, okay,

481
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,639
Speaker 4: and we're going to say that if they lose that

482
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 4: game that I can't I can't agree with that. I

483
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 4: think if they qualify and make the finals go in

484
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 4: straight sets, if they make a top four, I still

485
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 4: would say that their year is a pass.

486
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,360
Speaker 2: Okay, that's perhaps I'm being harsh, but I also think

487
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,680
Speaker 2: that the context of the season where you would be

488
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 2: playing a very good team is one thing, but the

489
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,439
Speaker 2: context of your own season, where in this reality the

490
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 2: Suns are finishing with seventeen wins when I think they

491
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,360
Speaker 2: have they ever even won twelve in a season, would

492
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 2: be that's good enough to win a final and they'd

493
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,120
Speaker 2: set themselves up for some success. But either way, they're

494
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 2: going to be good for a while, so they'll have

495
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 2: more chances to come back and if they have some

496
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,400
Speaker 2: painful exits, well it worked for the lines eventually Hawthorne

497
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 2: in seventh. Now, after they're a very impressive win over Collingwood,

498
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 2: they finished with Melbourne at home Brisbane away. They probably

499
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 2: play finals with one more win because of their percentage.

500
00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 2: They built that quite nicely in recent weeks. They could

501
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 2: still make the top four if they went out, but

502
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 2: like the teams around them, if they lose both games,

503
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,679
Speaker 2: they will almost certainly miss the finals. Are they peaking

504
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 2: at the right time of year?

505
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 3: I think so. I've had my reservations about Hawthorne this season,

506
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 3: but the way that they just, yeah, they demolished Collingwood

507
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 3: on Thursday night. The really impressive thing for me was Collinwood.

508
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,159
Speaker 3: The systems so big for Craig McCrae, their ability to

509
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 3: stop Collingwood at all moving through the middle of the ground.

510
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 3: Like we spoke about their ford fifty issues at Collingwood,

511
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 3: but they couldn't even get it past the defensive fifty

512
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 3: with a lot of run and carry, which has been

513
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,360
Speaker 3: one of their strengths. Yeah, I mean Mitchell was a mastermind.

514
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people share that opinion and genius.

515
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 3: I think if I have heard that finals is made

516
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 3: for him, So I think, yeah, there is no ceiling

517
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 3: on Hawthorne. They're the one that one team that probably

518
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 3: finishes in that bottom four who I think could do

519
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 3: a Brisbane this season. That they've had that finals experience

520
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 3: and that's probably intangible to a certain extent. Last year,

521
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 3: they were one point two points away from a Premium final.

522
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: At least a kick, yeah, at least a kick yeah,

523
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 2: could have been certainly could have been pought over there.

524
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 3: They were so close, and yeah, I mean, John, you

525
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 3: can You're probably gonna have to rely on Jie a

526
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 3: fair bit in finals.

527
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,719
Speaker 2: Will Day's absence is really going to hurt.

528
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,719
Speaker 3: Still massive and you know that's very well documented, and

529
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 3: he played a massive game on Thursday night, but they're

530
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 3: going to have some to excuse me, they're going to

531
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 3: have to have some stars in the midfield like Giant

532
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 3: did last Thursday night for them to be a chance,

533
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 3: because clearance has been a big concern of Theirs, and

534
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 3: that's where they were badly exposed in the last three

535
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 3: quarters against Adelaide after playing the first quarter so well,

536
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 3: and that was around the same time that will Day

537
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 3: probably started showing signs of injury.

538
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 2: If there's a year where someone's going to win it

539
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 2: from eighth, I think it would be a year like

540
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 2: this where everyone's really good and the path that I'd

541
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 2: got them on and my predicted ladder is finishing eighth,

542
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 2: playing three to zero in an elimination final over there. Tough,

543
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 2: but we saw that game was pretty close. I think

544
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 2: it will at least be winnable. And then you're getting

545
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 2: a semi final, possibly the MCG against Collingwood. If they

546
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: lose a qualifying final, that's winnable, very when we saw that,

547
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 2: and then you're in prelim and then maybe you're playing Gelong,

548
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 2: you're playing Adelaide Away. It's gonna be tough. But I

549
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: don't think we can count any of these teams out

550
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 2: from going on a run, except well, it depends on

551
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: how exactly the bracket falls out, but it wouldn't shock

552
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 2: me at all if they did that. Do you believe

553
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 2: in the Hawks at this point?

554
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 3: Jack?

555
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 4: Absolutely? I think all the talk has been the talk

556
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 4: has been about the forwards, but I think it matters

557
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 4: more what's going on behind the ball, and like you said,

558
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 4: will in the midfield. I think when Jihan Yukon plays

559
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 4: the way he did and has that clearingge dominance that

560
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 4: they tend to play pretty well. And all three of

561
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 4: those star defenders that they've got and now all playing

562
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 4: at like a really high level. There was some you know,

563
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 4: there are some issues and some talk around Sisley dun

564
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 4: this season, but now he's really coming good at the

565
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 4: right time. So all three of them are playing really well.

566
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 4: Last five weeks. They rank first without the footy, so

567
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 4: like osition opposition points from Ford half their number one,

568
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 4: so that like they're almost an impenetrable wall. And a

569
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 4: big part of that is Mitchell system and the way

570
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 4: that he, you know, forced hollingwod to play into their

571
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 4: hands with the long down the line, and so I

572
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 4: think that's a big part of it. And like you said,

573
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 4: the finals experience, I had that last year. So I

574
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 4: think they're well prepped and I think they'll get there,

575
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 4: and I think they'll win at least one game.

576
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 2: Definitely a chance. We'll see what happens. The Giants, we

577
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 2: don't know if they'll get there though, because they sit

578
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 2: eighth and if they lose to Gold Coast Away this week,

579
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: they will almost certainly be ninth heading into around twenty

580
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: four and needing help to play finals. They play the

581
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 2: Saints in the final weekend, they win both games, they're safe,

582
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 2: but we just don't know yet. Jack, would this be

583
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 2: a wasted season if they missed the eight or do

584
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 2: they have some reasonable excuses if that happens.

585
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 4: Wasted is harsh, but I think because I mean, I

586
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 4: pick them for the flag so and I know you

587
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 4: know they are a popular pick, right, So I think

588
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 4: in one sense it is it would be a wasted

589
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 4: yet if they didn't make it. They have been wildly

590
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 4: inconsistent at stages, like the way they played against the

591
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 4: Bulldogs versus the way they played in the second half

592
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 4: against Sydney's So Star, And I think the consistency is

593
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 4: really important and we haven't quite seen that. And I

594
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 4: understand that they had one like five of their last

595
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 4: six or six of their last seven or something, but

596
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 4: the way they played against the Dogs was so starkly contrasted.

597
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 4: So I think it would be it would be a

598
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 4: wasted season. If they missed, they'd be super unlucky. But

599
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 4: at their height they will genuinely threaten. The unfortunate thing

600
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 4: is I think that they don't beat Golgos this weekend

601
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 4: and so, like you said, they would be relying on

602
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 4: other factors if they beat sink Kildar in the final round.

603
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 2: Have got quite a few injuries, as we know, Jesse

604
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: Hoagan has been sort of in and out of the

605
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 2: team all year. I think Adam Hinsley was pretty confident

606
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 2: he'd be playing this weekend, which is quite big. Bret

607
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 2: Daniels has barely played. Josh Kelly's heard of the moment,

608
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 2: Jack Buckley. So they've had some absentees. A lot of

609
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 2: teams have. Of course, it's not a perfect excuse, but

610
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: it is a reason why they would have been in

611
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: consistency I imagine.

612
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 3: No, of course. I mean they've got so many senior

613
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: heads in their team that have actually have a fair

614
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 3: the Finals experience and well oil drill, So yeah, having intersruptions.

615
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: I mean Colin was finding that out right now, with

616
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 3: players being out just when you think you're about to

617
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 3: get going. I think Josh Kelly only came in a

618
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 3: couple weeks ago first game back alongside Sam Taylor and

619
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,239
Speaker 3: the third person escapes me, but then two of them

620
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 3: went straight back out the next week with injurirectly Buckley.

621
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 3: Sorry Jack Buckley, as we know who's out for the

622
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 3: rest of the home and away season. Brownie's really big

623
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 3: on this, and he said this on couch a couple

624
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,479
Speaker 3: of times. The Giants had their best, which I think

625
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 3: is what Jack was alluding to, is probably better than

626
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 3: anyone's and I would nearly agree with that. But you're

627
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 3: a big expected score men, Matt, and they have exceeded

628
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 3: the expected score in a lot of games this year

629
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 3: that they've won. Is it Did it happen enough for

630
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 3: you to say like they are the real deal and

631
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 3: their best is going to be anyone? Or is it

632
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 3: you still reckon it's going to average out to the

633
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 3: main No.

634
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: I think they have some goal kicking ability that other

635
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: teams do not. They just have some very good kicks

636
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: for goal and maybe that gives them a little bit

637
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: of a boost. But I think percentage tells the tail

638
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: Frio and GW being probably the two most likely teams

639
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: to fall out of the eight, they also have the

640
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: two worst percentages outside of Brisbane, but Brisbane have a

641
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 2: draw the two most likely teams to miss out of

642
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 2: the eight, So that explains a lot. And when you

643
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 2: talk about percentage, you also talk about the Western Boardogs

644
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: who have a very very good one. And that percentage

645
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: means that the Bulldogs if they beat West Coast and

646
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: Freeman or both at Marvel the WA Marvel doubleheader, they

647
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: will play finals because of that percentage that's locked in now,

648
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 2: because of the scenarios around Freeman or Brisbane and Hawthorne.

649
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 2: They all play each other except for frewin Hawthorne. The

650
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: Boardogs will finish above at least one team if they

651
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: win out, but they lose once very likely to miss

652
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Speaker 2: the eight. And they very nearly lost on Sunday against

653
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: Melbourne in one of the games of the season. But

654
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 2: it was scary there for a while to both of

655
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: you guys. If they make it, are they good enough

656
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: to do any damage anyway?

657
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 3: I'm not not more than one or two games. I

658
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 3: don't think. I don't think they can win the Yeah,

659
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 3: I don't think they can win the flag and win

660
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 3: faun a Row. I mean King King is also very

661
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 3: big on the and I strongly agrees you just have

662
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 3: to be able to defend in finals. And it's just

663
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 3: far too late in the season I think to be

664
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Speaker 3: fixing the glaring holes that they have in their back half.

665
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 3: They've never really known what they've wanted to do or

666
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 3: what they're doing. I mean only it was only a

667
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 3: month or four or five weeks ago that they were

668
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: playing Adelaide with two key defenders. They got absolutely reciled

669
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 3: that day at Marvel Stadium. Jeed Bustling has Coming were

670
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: subbed out halfway through the third quarter. Their personnel is

671
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 3: very good, but they just seem to be one one

672
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 3: big defender short and they just I mean points against.

673
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 3: I know they're points four. Sorry, the points four is

674
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: very good this season. Without having the numbers number one, yeah,

675
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: for points four points against that they'd be outside the

676
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 3: premiership window. I can't see them being in the top

677
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Speaker 3: six now.

678
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 4: The way they defended it in the last five weeks

679
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 4: their a eight points against it and I think it's

680
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 4: a similar conversation with the Giants is like you said,

681
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 4: ability to stand up behind the ball. I think it's

682
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 4: been floated, but like Jake, if you add someone like

683
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 4: Jake Lever to that back line, I think you get

684
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 4: a good boot. But in terms of this season and

685
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 4: the way this year is going to end, I don't

686
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 4: think they have enough personnel behind the ball to level

687
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 4: out the superstar factor ahead of the ball in the midfield.

688
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 4: And it was a good test of their metal to

689
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 4: hold on against a Demon's ten. It has clearly got

690
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 4: that sugar hit with the caretaker coach, so their season

691
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 4: is still alive. I don't think they can do serious

692
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 4: damage in the finals, and the same things with the Giants,

693
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 4: because the whole thing with them was they can see

694
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 4: so many inside fifty entries and they stand up so

695
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 4: well because they have Taylor and Buckley back there. But

696
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 4: if they can't get Buckley back, you know, for the finals,

697
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 4: if they make it, I think that's trouble. So those

698
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 4: two teams, I think the defensive issues are probably why

699
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 4: they're not going to make a massive statement in September.

700
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: All fair, I will say one thing. My predicted Week

701
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: one of finals would have the Bulldogs finishing seventh sounds familiar.

702
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: Playing an elimination final Interstate seems familiar. Then maybe playing

703
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: a Victorian team on the way down in a semi

704
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: final like Collingwood sounds familiar, very twenty sixteen type run,

705
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: and then playing an interstate team in the grand final.

706
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: Who knows, Maybe they're a chance, they said, Like even

707
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: Bontapelli pointed this out postgame. I heard him say that

708
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: they haven't lost a game by more than twenty two

709
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: points this year, like they've been close to all these contenders.

710
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: That still gives me a little bit of faith. But

711
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: it will be tough if they get there. We don't know.

712
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: We'll see over the next two weeks it's going to

713
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: be an exciting run of games. That's it for that segment.

714
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Speaker 2: Let's move on to Everyone's Favorite and.

715
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Speaker 1: Now on the Fox Footy podcast, another strong edition of

716
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Speaker 1: Australia's Favorite segment, Fair or.

717
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: Fast, Fair of Fuss is what I'm talking about. Of course,

718
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 2: Jack will start with you. Carlton was right to ask

719
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: multiple other people, including a sitting AFL coach, if they

720
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: were interested in coaching the Blues in twenty twenty six

721
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: before making the call to stick with Michael Voss.

722
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 4: Quite the development, wasn't it. I believe that this happened?

723
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: Does Blake Carleton strong denials?

724
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a shocker, right, Yes, I think it's fair.

725
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 4: I think it's fair. I think it's I think the

726
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 4: reason why you bring someone like Graham Wright to the

727
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 4: club is that that he can sound out who he

728
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 4: believes might be available or might be a better option.

729
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 4: And I think you'd be negligent in your duties if

730
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 4: you're not doing your due diligence and finding out who

731
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 4: might be willing to come over. And you know, so,

732
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Speaker 4: I think VOSSI surviving that board meeting is while it's

733
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 4: a testament to you know, he's standing at the club

734
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 4: and what the club leagues he can do with a

735
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 4: slightly better listen next year going forward. I think at

736
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 4: the same time, they definitely would have considered whether they're

737
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 4: a greended pastures and who's out there potentially wanting to

738
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 4: take on a challenge.

739
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: Wasn't the most convincing statement when they said he's staying

740
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: on because they said he's staying into twenty twenty six,

741
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: not for the entirety of twenty twenty six. Of course,

742
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: we don't know what they're gonna do next year.

743
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: He's on thin strings, is vos. I think it's great

744
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: that he's going around again. Personally, sorry thin ice, Yeah,

745
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 3: dancing on thin strings?

746
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: I mean thin strings would also be hard to hold.

747
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: You hanging by a three?

748
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 4: Aren't old strings? Thin?

749
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 3: Not necessarily? What's the thickest is a piece of string

750
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: before it comes a rope? A question?

751
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: Ropes are generally like tied up strings, like like all bundled.

752
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 3: I don't know whose string guys a nice mate, but

753
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: just it thin strings on anyway? Yeah, I mean not

754
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: that I was being asked whether it was fair or fast,

755
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: but it was probably fair.

756
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: No one ever chips in fast in this segment that

757
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: never happened.

758
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: No, Like, I mean we see it plays all the time, right,

759
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 3: I mean Melbourne shopped around Clari Oliver last year and

760
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 3: the year before. Like it happens. You do stuff behind

761
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 3: closed doors, you know, Yeah, it happens. People do not

762
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 3: in the trade circle all the time.

763
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: Who do we think they would have spoken to the

764
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: sitting AFL coach that s mclauw was unwilling to name.

765
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: Who would you be talking to in that circumstance?

766
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: This is this is very speculative areas.

767
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: I'm asking you to speculate. I'm not asking you to report.

768
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: If I had to, what did you say?

769
00:32:59,040 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 4: What do you record?

770
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 3: We're doing speculating? Gone, I think it would be Ken?

771
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: Does that? Does can Heckley fit the bill of he's

772
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: not a sitting coach next year? Or would they have

773
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: just talked to him and as part of that conversation

774
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: perhaps floated the idea, hey, you know we could have

775
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: view his head of footy because they did get rid

776
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: of Brad Lloyd today on Tuesday, Or it could be

777
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: his coach. Maybe that was just the conversation.

778
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 3: If I had to guess, yeah, it would have been

779
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: through Ken. I don't think there's too many other coaches

780
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: who aren't quite stable with their either very new into

781
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: their era its job as coach like yours as mcqualtas,

782
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: or aren't quite hard and fast with their club.

783
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: What do you asked about Chris Scott?

784
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was seeing Chris Scott like it'd be just

785
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 4: like a hell Mary sort of like, is there any

786
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 4: chance he won a new challenge?

787
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 3: Recently signed a three year deal at Geelong? Like the

788
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: time has he actually signed that?

789
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 4: I think it's expected, but he hasn't put And this

790
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 4: could have been like weeks or months back.

791
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: Anyway, he's been He's been linked to this job for

792
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 2: a while and he's not even officially the CEO yet,

793
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: but he's doing all this all this work.

794
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,239
Speaker 3: Yeah No, I mean, like, and what if you were

795
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 3: going to send out a coach in the in the AFL,

796
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: any coach is probably Chris Scott, So.

797
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: I would have Sai Luke Beveridge if it was the

798
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: start of the year, but we know he's resigned since,

799
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 2: so it seems like that's gone away. Logical that would

800
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 2: make some sense, will fair or fast? You shouldn't be

801
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: able to be suspended for injuring your own teammate or

802
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: potentially injuring your own teammate, as we saw with Dylan Shield.

803
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: We did see that with Dylan Shield. A nice little

804
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 3: tunnel we had there. Yes, Well, I mean, when you

805
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 3: push someone or you perform an action that has consequences

806
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: for any other player on the field, you should be

807
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 3: able to be suspended for it.

808
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 2: So it's fair, but it's Can you make the counter

809
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: argument that eston would not want to prosecute the case

810
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: because the victim player was their own possibly possibly a

811
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: league was perfective. It's a good point, but I suppose

812
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 2: says why the rules don't say that. The rules actually

813
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: don't say you have to injure your own says come

814
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 2: in any player?

815
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you would want LUA was written permission? Again, Lumn,

816
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: how do we that jacks right?

817
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: A term of affection.

818
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 4: I would have thought, if we're if we're this serious

819
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 4: about rubbing out this particular action from the game.

820
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 2: Which we haven't been, all that your year to be fair.

821
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 4: Right, So it should have been enforced starting with the

822
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 4: Gymbi Act, is what I believe.

823
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people agree with that.

824
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 4: But we've got to the point now where we are

825
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 4: genuinely going about trying to prevent players from doing it.

826
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 4: And part of that is, well, yeah, I mean, you know,

827
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 4: your your teammate might have been in the firing line

828
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 4: in this circumstance, but it's the same act that we've

829
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 4: been punishing players for doing two opponents in his last

830
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 4: few months anyway, So I think it's, you know, definitely

831
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 4: something that we should be punishing.

832
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 2: And it also makes sense that you know, Greg Swawan

833
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: coming in, He's been there for a couple of weeks now,

834
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 2: this is the first time this type of incident has

835
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 2: happened under his watch. It would make sense for him

836
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 2: to try and put his stamp on the Jack Fair

837
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: or Fast Snoop Dog is a terrible choice for the

838
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: Grand Final entertainment unless he performs the menu logs on.

839
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 4: Oh we were having this, go on, what do you

840
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 4: want to say?

841
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 3: Just the way you were thinking there, it was like

842
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 3: you were about to spit out some sort of Snoop

843
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: Dog line that you know could be weaved into your answer,

844
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: similar to what Mitch Cleary did on our Twitter.

845
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: Well, he just did a lyric which wasn't even relevant

846
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: to like football. He didn't do nothing but an mcg

847
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: thang or you know that's.

848
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 4: That's I think you got it wrong yet to edit it.

849
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 2: I did see that as well.

850
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was one of those double take ones, which

851
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 4: it's always fun, so it's good.

852
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 2: To yeah anyway, anyway, thoughts Ghetto and the Chateau.

853
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 4: Oh this is this is a discussion we had last night.

854
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 4: I don't think it's necessarily terrible. I don't think it's

855
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 4: great just because of the vast demographic it's going to

856
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 4: be at the Grand Final. I don't mind, you know,

857
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 4: some snoop every now and now. I don't mind some

858
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 4: nineties rap, but I don't quite think it's the cup

859
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 4: of tea of you know, you're thirty to sixty year old.

860
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: That's a white demo. Yeah, well I'm trying to say, yeah,

861
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: but okay, So if we think of the demo the

862
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: demographic of the generic footy fan, are we just doing

863
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: eighties and nineties pub rock every Grand Final? Is that

864
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: the answer here?

865
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 3: I'm pretty happy with Snowdog. I think like put up

866
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 3: a good performance. I don't know, would Meet Loafe have

867
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 3: been the target demographic of anyone when they did it.

868
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: At that time? You think of that? Yeah, like he

869
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: would have just been nostalgia slash relevant enough to most people,

870
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: because that was what nine, was it not?

871
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, Geelong Collingwood. Yeah maybe eleven eleven, that sounds right.

872
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 2: Yes, So around that time he was just getting a

873
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: bit too old, like'm certainly too old now. But they're

874
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: going for big names like Katy Perry, and Katy Perry

875
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: was a great call. That's a more mainstream.

876
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 4: Name, and I think you can get people from different

877
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 4: demographics who can appreciate at least one or two of

878
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 4: her songs without being hardcore fans. I struggle to think

879
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 4: that you're going to get the same thing out of Snoop.

880
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: Like my mum asked me genuinely, which songs of his

881
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 2: would I know? And I don't think you would know

882
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 2: any It's really just like those in the Crib.

883
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 4: He's got so many songs where you're just like, you

884
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 4: know that like one line because it's funny, yeah, like

885
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 4: you don't really yeah.

886
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 3: Just like a lot of people would be familiar with

887
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: drop it like it's tight.

888
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: Yes, probably because that line though, yeah, yeah, well that's

889
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: what you need to know, like, and I think a

890
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: lot of people would be suggesting, like, oh, why are

891
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 2: they doing an Aussie band, an up and coming Aussie group,

892
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: because people will also not know the songs of them.

893
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 3: They've had a very good track record the last four

894
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: years the AFL, So I'm willing to let them go

895
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 3: out on a go on a limb and see how

896
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 3: Snoop goes. But it's just a shame we couldn't get

897
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: a crossover between Katie and Snoop for California Girls and

898
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: for Menu Lock and for Menu Lot.

899
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: Yes there are other there are other food service options available,

900
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: by the way, But.

901
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: Isn't it isn't that song completely different in America? I

902
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 4: don't have like a different version.

903
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 2: It's the same song, but they changed th brand.

904
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 4: Yes, so did.

905
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: Somebody say just eat that's it? Like what it sounds?

906
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: Break your mind when you hear.

907
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 3: That on YouTube? This isn't sponsored, by the way, not

908
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 3: at all.

909
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: But try them all or actually just go to a

910
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 2: restaurant that would be good to Who would be your

911
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: number one pick personal pick, not thinking about demographics and

912
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: everything else. Who you'd most want to see as grand

913
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 2: final entertainment?

914
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 4: Maybe Gone Will it's a connoisseur. If I'm if I'm

915
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 4: just seeing sky one as a Triple J countdown.

916
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: Just so you're a young person, you're who surely the

917
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 2: AFL is trying to target.

918
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 3: Yes, correct, just ask me Andrew. I think Kyle and

919
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 3: Og would be a good one for Australians. I think

920
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 3: not a bad person, yes, okay, probably harder to get,

921
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 3: harder to get, but I think.

922
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 4: Would have been hard to get.

923
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, But it's that's also about I think their relationship

924
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: with the touring company. I think it's the mushroom they

925
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 2: work with and it depends on who is available, who

926
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: could be touring at the time. That's why you get

927
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: certain acts at certain times. A CDC was discussed. I

928
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: think because they're doing shows in September maybe in Singapore, right.

929
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, maybe has to align for Tate

930
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: McCray is popular at the moment.

931
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 4: Are you going to morel what are you ready off them? Mate?

932
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 3: My on repeats now yeah, and but then the rest

933
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: of them all just DJ is like, you know you're

934
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 3: not gonna get Calvin Harrison daver to get her out here?

935
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 2: Probably not.

936
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 4: That's a great, great point you make, because Calvin Harris

937
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 4: would be my okay choice. Calvin Harrison is the only

938
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 4: person I've seen life the only concert you. I don't

939
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 4: go to concerts. It was part of like a bigger thing,

940
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 4: but I went to see Coven Harris.

941
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: So I had not been to many concerts ever until

942
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: I got into K pop, and now I've into a

943
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 2: bunch because I'm a weirdo like.

944
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 3: That, would you get K pop in? I would?

945
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: I would getlasera film. Okay, that would be great, I

946
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: mean for me, but also it would be good for

947
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: a young audience. That would if you're trying to get

948
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: people who would not otherwise be watching the Grand Finals

949
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 2: to watch something like that would work.

950
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: It'd be quite funny if you had one hundred thousand

951
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 3: K pop fans in d MCG watching the NFL. Is

952
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: that is that the opportunity to be fair.

953
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: I went to a concert at Marvel for the group

954
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 2: twice last year or the year before, so you know

955
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 2: you can do pretty well. It would be interesting how

956
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 2: the ticketing would work, because like, if you think it's

957
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: hard to get a ticket, then are crazy with ticketing.

958
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: They'll do they'll do anything for them, So probably wouldn't work.

959
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 3: But you know who's actual who would you recommenda? Should be? No?

960
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: No, no, I mean Seraphim they might recommend it.

961
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 3: Sorry he didn't.

962
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: I need to say Kim Chewan in the middle of

963
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: the MCG and everyone will finally get what I'm talking about. Right,

964
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: that's all I'm saying. Well, we'll finish Faro fast with you.

965
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 2: Kel Wilkie is right to feel disillusioned with Saint Kilda's

966
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: trade plans as has been reported, especially if Leclear is

967
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 2: going to be on the same money as him next year.

968
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 4: Right in Fawken's wheelhouse.

969
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: This is in my hitting zone. He's absolutely right to

970
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: be disillusioned. This is the most fair question that's been

971
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: asked this segment than one hundred percent. I mean, this

972
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 3: is the issue with four players when the monetary figure

973
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 3: of players in proposed contracts gets leaked or made public.

974
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 3: Rather like I think if you're a Wilkie who I

975
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: believe come runner up in their best and fairest back

976
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: to back year, last one of last year. Sorry sorry

977
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: Australian in twenty three.

978
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, like heck, i'd call him a reliable defender, wouldn't you, Jack, Yeah.

979
00:41:58,960 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 3: I had the start of that.

980
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 4: At a minimum, I call him in all Australian defenderive have

981
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 4: be a pen reflection, but that's okay.

982
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: I think he's a very good defender. But regardless as

983
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: to whether or not what we think, like you have,

984
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 3: like you had these achievements your name, you have Luckily, who,

985
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 3: if I had to guess, has played twenty one AFL

986
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 3: games two twenty good dry okay, good played twenty two

987
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: AFL games, and you're getting off with the same amount

988
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: of money. Sure has a very very big seiling. I'm

989
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 3: not questioning Lek here, But Wilkie's done all the hard work.

990
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 3: I believe he's a rookie pick or he was a

991
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 3: mature age pick, like just yeah, yeah. The career that

992
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 3: he's had has been he's had to forge every bit

993
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 3: of the way and he's had to work up to

994
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 3: a wage of roughly seven hundred and fifty grand what's

995
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: been reported. And you see someone just come in and

996
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 3: swoop while you're paying Tom mcurny one point seven million dollars,

997
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 3: you're paying the sire literally twice the wage. Is what

998
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 3: will is? You know, I think he has every right

999
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 3: to be frustrated. And I saw there was mumblings again

1000
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: about win Hager potentially leaving and you know, not being happy,

1001
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: like there are reports of him about to sign in

1002
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 3: February that still hasn't happened. I know he wants to

1003
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 3: play more time on ballards. We've discussed in this podcast,

1004
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: like I don't know what's happening at Marabin, but for

1005
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 3: this many rumblings and to be coming from senior and

1006
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 3: you know, I'm sure this will be brought back to

1007
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 3: an extent if will he comes out and speak publicly

1008
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: or Sam Culten wants to have their say. I know

1009
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 3: Ross lines on Footy classified tonight with Tom Morris and

1010
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 3: the crew, But for them to be rumblings, I think

1011
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 3: absolutely within their rights. And I think part of it

1012
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 3: is to do with salaries being leaked and made public.

1013
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: They are trying to do some bold things. They're trying

1014
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: to get people to accept their money. And I think

1015
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: the argument from Sekula's perspective is it costs more to

1016
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 2: get players out of clubs than to keep them. So

1017
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: Lekalier to get him to leave the Giants, where he

1018
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: clearly likes playing and probably a better team, but you're

1019
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 2: not playing AFL games, You've got to pay a bit

1020
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: extra money. And there's also the fact that contracts are

1021
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: not primarily about talent. They're about leverage that Lekalie is

1022
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 2: going to get this contract because of the leverage he

1023
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 2: has as a desirable asset who is available on the market.

1024
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 2: And same with TDK. He's going to get paid well

1025
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,959
Speaker 2: into the millions because of his availability on the market.

1026
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: And there aren't so many players, so you have to

1027
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: keep that into would count. But you could see how

1028
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 2: you would get frustrated if you're at the Saints and

1029
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 2: they're doing some interesting things.

1030
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 3: Yes, it's not just Wilkie either, Like there are other

1031
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 3: people who are questioning the well.

1032
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 2: Rod Marshall would understandably be annoyed about losing his first

1033
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 2: rock position and considering his future geelong being linked.

1034
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 3: To him having been an incredibly reliable servant, as Wilker

1035
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: has Marshall, Yeah, you have every right to be sourcing

1036
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 3: your options and it's not the it's not what Saints

1037
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 3: fans want to hear, but that's what happens when you

1038
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,959
Speaker 3: make as many rumbling through as many offers of Saint Kilda.

1039
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 4: Well is the larger storyline about how bold Sankulary is

1040
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 4: in terms of going about trying to get more staff

1041
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 4: actor players on its list. So like now they're sort

1042
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 4: of you say they've been drawing criticism because they're maybe

1043
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 4: leaving if you're high and dry with a few hundred

1044
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 4: ground on the table, But ultimately they're trying to make upgrades.

1045
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 4: So do we think that TDK is big enough upgrade

1046
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 4: from someone like roand Marshall?

1047
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: Not too?

1048
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 3: I don't think so. He's three years younger than what

1049
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: Marshall is. Marshall's been incredibly reliant servant. TDK is a

1050
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 3: bloody good player, but he's not I don't think he's

1051
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 3: worth the cultural superstar potential TDK yes, one hundred right,

1052
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 3: So do you think marsh I get that he's been

1053
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 3: a reliable servant, but there's Marshall of the same potential

1054
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 3: as TDK going forward. I think Marshall is a current

1055
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 3: star so star, Yes, I think he's I think he's

1056
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: a star.

1057
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: I think that's fair.

1058
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 3: So the upgrade from a star to a potential superstar

1059
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 3: is great. I'm not saying that obviously that serves the

1060
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 3: club a very good purpose. The cultural divide that you

1061
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 3: can create by making a move as big as that.

1062
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 3: I don't think he's worth the intangible risk, right effect.

1063
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 4: What's the alternative?

1064
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 3: I personally wouldn't be going out to t DK if

1065
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 3: I think, I think it's a personel thing, like you know,

1066
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 3: I think they're within their rightsgraph the lecal Leer like

1067
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 3: he could be a piece of the puzzle. But I'm saying,

1068
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 3: if you're saying cured it right now, you have a

1069
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 3: star ruckman who is in his absolute prime, how about

1070
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 3: looking for I mean Casi said than done, But I

1071
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 3: think a key Ford would be someone that I'd be

1072
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: looking at for. Maybe they should take them over the edge, yeah,

1073
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 3: or to take them into finals. Contention, I don't think

1074
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: you can look at premiership teams just yet when you're

1075
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 3: recruiting players for them now to build you up. I

1076
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 3: don't think you're looking at premiership potential. But yeah, i'd

1077
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 3: be looking at players maybe outside of TDK to take

1078
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 3: you forward.

1079
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: If they weren't going for Tom to Conning. Would that

1080
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: not solve all their problems because they would be able

1081
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: to pay Nas even more if they need to. Though

1082
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a money thing at.

1083
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: This point, but you can get a genuine star.

1084
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 4: And then well he would be against available genuinely.

1085
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 2: Is that not why they're going for the Conning Because

1086
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: he's the one who's available. That's just what the market

1087
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 2: is giving them.

1088
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 3: I think at the start of the season they felt

1089
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 3: like they had to make a statement, which they were

1090
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 3: entirely within their rights to do. Having the figure of

1091
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 3: one point seven million dollars leak has just I think

1092
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 3: has had a pretty big effect on sant Kulda. It's

1093
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 3: hamstrung them a little bit. I mean, I don't see it. Well,

1094
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 3: were they're going to retract that offer, like, you know,

1095
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 3: that's not great for optics And yeah, I don't know.

1096
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I've tried for a long time to pry

1097
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 4: genuine stars out of ravel clubs because they have identified

1098
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 4: and understand for a genuine amount of time now that

1099
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 4: they need to improve their list with star players who

1100
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 4: are going to get them over over.

1101
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 2: They are one of five teams this decade that has

1102
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: won at least ten games every year and they's still

1103
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 2: a chance to continue that. It's them Port Brisbane, the

1104
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: Dogs in Geelong. Every other team has had at least

1105
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 2: one dip. They have always been consistent, but consistently average.

1106
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 4: During that hellish sort of area that we talk about

1107
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 4: in like the NBA and NFL where teams just can't

1108
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 4: get a rut of just being consistently mediocre.

1109
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 2: The only thing that's made at work is because they've

1110
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 2: drafted really well with getting Wan Miller.

1111
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 3: They have great young talent, and yeah, I don't know,

1112
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 3: i'd be solving everything between the four balls first before

1113
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 3: you start throwing one point seven million dollars a year players.

1114
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 2: Are you going backwards if you get to Conning and

1115
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: lose Wookie and Marshall in the process, Yeah, which which

1116
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: is a genuine possibility.

1117
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 4: Can someone like Aliyah grow into a genuine superstar Interceptay

1118
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 4: as a defender? Yes, right alongside Dakoning, who is who

1119
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 4: we think is better than Marshall. Because like they're trying

1120
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 4: to figure out a ways to get their list to

1121
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 4: a point where they can contend if they don't go

1122
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 4: after Daconing hypothetically like do they have enough as he's

1123
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 4: as currently constructed to then go again and contend next year.

1124
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 4: I think that's I think that's really why they've had

1125
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 4: to offer this much to Dacony.

1126
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it's just with Ruck

1127
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 3: being a specialist position I would have been. I think

1128
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 3: there are bigger issues up for I mean, Paul Max

1129
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 3: King hasn't been on the field for hardly the last

1130
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 3: two or three years.

1131
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 4: Who's who's gettible in terms of so the.

1132
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 3: Carlton situation at the moment is where they're probably looking

1133
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 3: like if they were a club that if there was

1134
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: going to be a club that could cry out one

1135
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 3: of Kerno. I know if his lifestyle thing was to

1136
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: head further up north, but if Makai was on the

1137
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 3: trade table, he would be the one that I would

1138
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 3: be going after. I think he's a very good player.

1139
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 3: That serves him. He's in their prime right now. Ah yes,

1140
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 3: but he hasn't had continuing on the field this year

1141
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 3: for reasons outside of football.

1142
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: Common medallist. Yeah, pretty good play, Yeah good chat. Let's

1143
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 2: move on to this.

1144
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: On the Fox Footy podcast, it's time to open up

1145
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 1: the mail bag. Have a question for the panel. Tweetus.

1146
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: Every Monday morning at Fox Footy.

1147
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,439
Speaker 2: The mail bag awaits. We have plenty of questions in there.

1148
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: Thank you to everyone that was allowed.

1149
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 3: We didn't have mailbag last week.

1150
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: Well that's true, people have plenty of You know that

1151
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 2: you have passion for the listeners, which is what we love.

1152
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: So listeners like Corey who asks which bottom eight team

1153
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,479
Speaker 2: can you see jumping into the top eight next year

1154
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 2: a reminder of who they are. Saint Kilda, Port Melbourne, Carlton, Essendon, Richmond,

1155
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 2: North West Coast. That's the bottom eight. Can any of

1156
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 2: them play finals next year? Under acknowledging that Adelaide wasteenth

1157
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 2: last year and at least two teams jump in every year,

1158
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 2: although I think everyone's going to be picking whoever finishes

1159
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 2: ninth and then the Swan's.

1160
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 3: Yes, I think Port Adelaide unsurprisingly, as Jack Scoff's in

1161
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 3: his microphone. The reason I say that is even if

1162
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 3: they don't get in the sire they still have an

1163
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 3: unbelievably good core of young play I've said this many.

1164
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: A time, genuinely, maybe the best five young players in

1165
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 2: the comp as a core collectively.

1166
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 3: Building around them, And yeah, I'm not there. I don't

1167
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 3: think they'll be flag contenders, but I think there is

1168
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 3: a world where they play finals. I think they're the

1169
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 3: most likely. But that's not to say that I think

1170
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 3: it will happen.

1171
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 4: I can. I can accept that what changes between this

1172
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 4: season and next, like apart from the coach, but is

1173
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 4: the philosophy that different that with the list as currently constructed,

1174
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 4: A few minor changes, they're suddenly going to jump big time.

1175
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 3: No, no, not just to play finals. I think they

1176
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 3: can play finals. I mean they're injury, you.

1177
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 4: Know, go from eight wins to fourteen.

1178
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they can run.

1179
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 2: This year has been awful and they were top two

1180
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: last year like you can. You can. They didn't change

1181
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: a huge amount between year to year this time and

1182
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 2: fell off. Big changes just happened sometimes.

1183
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, all I'm saying is I think it's definitely possible.

1184
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 3: I think they're the most likely of that group to

1185
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 3: jump up. I mean I have a little bit of

1186
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 3: concerns like I think a lot of people have about

1187
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 3: their defense. Last few years, literally has been their best

1188
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 3: player and he's, you know, only getting old. I think

1189
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 3: you might be in this thirties. Most players are older, yes, correct, No,

1190
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 3: not many going a younger Benjamin Button. But yeah, I

1191
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 3: don't know. I think they probably need a little bit

1192
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 3: more personnel in their defensive half, but they use the

1193
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 3: use of the club is as good as any other

1194
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 3: club in terms of superstar power.

1195
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: It's fair.

1196
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 4: Sydney is the obvious obvious one to me.

1197
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: But they're not the bottom eight, so they do not

1198
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: answer the question.

1199
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,439
Speaker 3: Don'd be ridiculous, Todd, So what was it again?

1200
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: Botom eight? They tenth very you are technically wrong the

1201
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 2: best kind of yes, Yes, Melbourne, Melbourne.

1202
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 4: Okay, Melbourne or Cartlon I think give if you make

1203
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 4: a few tweaks drain the list, like Carlton, you need

1204
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 4: some better kickers, some better runners, and I think.

1205
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: They're clearly going to do quite a bit this off seas.

1206
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, so like even like Nick Newman, right, really good kicker,

1207
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 4: a really good user. I know people talk about jackos Smith,

1208
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 4: but he's like a really great endurance sort of guy.

1209
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 4: So that's something's gonna be a long term player, Sam Welsh.

1210
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 4: Again endurance hasn't played a lot of footy. And if

1211
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 4: you make a few tweaks with the list, I think

1212
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 4: you can see a jump there and you put a

1213
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 4: bit more help around Voss, I guess. And you're talking

1214
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 4: about like a good football boss, like maybe Ken or

1215
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 4: Danny Day. I could see that. I could see Melbourne

1216
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 4: with the right coach, they'd have to make a few

1217
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 4: tough calls with the list, you know, looking in the

1218
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 4: the tracker all of us sort of direction.

1219
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 2: Because that does that send them backwards to go forwards effectively.

1220
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 4: If they do that, it depends what they're bringing in,

1221
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 4: just because like these guys are big names, but they

1222
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 4: probably haven't been in terms of impact, really been good.

1223
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 4: Like I mean, Track has had some good games, but

1224
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 4: I think Oliver you knows, he's sort of know what

1225
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 4: he is at this point. So if you make some

1226
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 4: changes there, I could see a bit of a jump.

1227
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 4: But those are the two teams that I look at.

1228
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 2: Keep me in mind they are seven and fourteen, but

1229
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 2: percentage of ninety five basically the same as Sydney. You know,

1230
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 2: they're a pretty good team. They've had some bad luck,

1231
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: a few close losses. Even on the weekend of the

1232
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: Bulldogs was a close loss.

1233
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 3: Sorry, Three quick questions. One just one would answer here

1234
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 3: Melbourne Carton that they both more likely to do that

1235
00:52:54,760 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 3: than Port. Thank the eight. Do you have Port sitting three?

1236
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 3: You do? You're smirking. Next question, do Carlton need to

1237
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 3: good answer? Trade Mackay, Kerno or Walsh back when you

1238
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 3: talk about list tweaks, Well, we talked about it, Harry.

1239
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 4: I think Harry could use a fresh start, Like I

1240
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 4: don't think he needs to be traded, but.

1241
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 2: It's not happening. Is it like it? It comes up?

1242
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 4: So it's very hard. It's very difficult with these guys.

1243
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 4: That's why really, Oh we didn't get traded.

1244
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 3: Yes. Third question was Max, who do you think rise

1245
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 3: is if anyone?

1246
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 2: I agree that Port has the upside with the young talent.

1247
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: I think that Melbourne is the best team of the

1248
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: bottom mate right now yep. And I think Carlton should

1249
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 2: be contending next year and one of these years they

1250
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: won't have a million injuries.

1251
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 4: Remind us on average how many teams how many changes

1252
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 4: the rispout year?

1253
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 2: It's about two point eight or two point nine. I

1254
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: think we're on track.

1255
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 4: It's Port Melbourne end come.

1256
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: I think we're on track for four, Adelaide Frio, Gold Coast. No,

1257
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 2: we're on track for three? Is it not? Anyway, We're

1258
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 2: in track for a few. So the pattern continues. There

1259
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: will always be changes. As I said, it will be

1260
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 2: whoever finishes ninth in Sydney will be the popular picks.

1261
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 3: But we'll see great mail back.

1262
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 2: Question Simon asks this seems to shape as a very

1263
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 2: matchup dependent final series. Who is each team's most dreaded

1264
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 2: finals matchup? The teams that your team does not want

1265
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 2: to face. Obviously GWS and the Bulldogs comes to mind.

1266
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 2: I think they've lost what nine of ten in that series,

1267
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 2: including the two this year. What are the teams? Do

1268
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 2: teams not want to face?

1269
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 3: If I was any I wouldn't want to play Adelaide

1270
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 3: right now because of defensive games.

1271
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 2: But is that more about their quality than about specific matchups?

1272
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 3: Oh? Sorry, specific matchups? Well, I mean adela wouldn'tant to

1273
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 3: play Collingwood if history tells us anything could.

1274
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: Get that out of the way with the hodoo this weekend,

1275
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 2: of course that it would be nice.

1276
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, correct, good timing Ashley.

1277
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 4: Other than that, well, actually, to be honest, I mean,

1278
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 4: like you talk about matchups historically, but I think genuinely

1279
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 4: the actual team versus team, like what we're about to

1280
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 4: see on Saturday, is that really bodes poorly for Collingwood.

1281
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 4: I think the way that they looked behind the ball

1282
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 4: we mistay had to go back, you know, assuming Howe's not,

1283
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 4: They're still Frampton looked out of place and you're coming

1284
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 4: up against Adelaide's three hundred monster. I think that it

1285
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 4: could be a world but it really doesn't end well

1286
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 4: for Collingwood I think right now in terms of that's

1287
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 4: probably who I wouldn't want to play from Collingwood.

1288
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 2: They should be built to beat them.

1289
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 3: Basically. Yes, I assume Jack that Howe will be out

1290
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 3: with the concusion protocols this weekend. I think it's good

1291
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 3: assumption you made.

1292
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 2: Okay, mate, all right, Geelong would not want to face

1293
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 2: Brisbane or GWS. They've lost to them two times both

1294
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 2: this year. G W, that's a great call, so that's

1295
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 2: a problem for them. If the Lions or Giants, they

1296
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: could be a semi final as well, which would be scary,

1297
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 2: a scary straight sets exit potentiality there. There's a few, definitely,

1298
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: I think for the most part, you know, anyone can

1299
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 2: beat anyone. But no fair question, Simon, and we'll finish

1300
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 2: off with Mitch who asks is Nakos? That's Nick Dacos.

1301
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 2: For all those playing at home at risk of losing

1302
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 2: the brown load to Jordan Dawson or Noah Anderson with

1303
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: this current form slump, is he still your favorite? Has

1304
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 2: not had a great sort of little patch here. He's

1305
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 2: not going to be polling votes late. It does make

1306
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 2: for a good count.

1307
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 3: Hopefully it's going to make for a very.

1308
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 2: Good count if he's not too far.

1309
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 3: It my only concern now with Anderson because I think

1310
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 3: he's been the most consistent best player across the season,

1311
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 3: if that makes sense raw no rout Well.

1312
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: I think Joey said on first crack that they could

1313
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 2: finish one too. He did say that would be quite remarkable,

1314
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 2: it would.

1315
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 3: I think Row might steal too many votes off him,

1316
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 3: To be honest, I don't think there's anyone stealing votes

1317
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 3: off Dakos and I don't think there's enough Crows player

1318
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 3: stealing votes off Dawson. But I don't think I think

1319
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 3: Dawson has slumped the second half of this year. He

1320
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,919
Speaker 3: still had played very well, but not to Brown though

1321
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 3: winning level Jack.

1322
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 4: I don't think Dawson will be up there because of

1323
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,919
Speaker 4: the reasons you just state. I don't think it could

1324
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 4: be Decos Anderson one two. I agree that Row is

1325
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 4: the likeliest guy to take a lot of votes off him.

1326
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 4: I guess it depends how much you sort of value

1327
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 4: the in and understuff versus the outside prominence, which is Anderson.

1328
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 4: Naz is someone else who when sant Kilda have played well,

1329
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 4: there won't be too many taking votes off him. I

1330
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 4: think he could finish pretty high up like smoking.

1331
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 3: Then Madam and I were speaking about this, no huge better,

1332
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 3: but did put a bonus bet on if you're going

1333
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 3: to sarre at two hundred and fifty one dollars a

1334
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 3: few weeks back?

1335
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 2: I think it's unlikely because of the lack of wins.

1336
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 3: I think so too, but the valet he's into twenty

1337
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 3: one dollars now, so mean he was more Matte Campbell

1338
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 3: were responsible or just don't or just don't.

1339
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: If this was a normal brand though year where the

1340
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 2: winner is going to poll thirty, I think there is

1341
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: a genuine chance that someone pips Takos. I think that

1342
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: just what we've seen from last year especially is that

1343
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 2: he's going to poll like thirty six by round eighteen,

1344
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 2: yeah and be fine. So if this is twenty twenty two,

1345
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 2: the Gold Coast thing brings me back to when Melbourne

1346
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: had like their big three of Petraca, Gorne and Oliver

1347
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 2: or pauling votes and getting off each other like yes

1348
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: Oliver in twenty twenty two, Oliver Pole's twenty five, Petraka

1349
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 2: twenty four and Crips wins with twenty nine. Like if

1350
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: you know, Melbourn's a lot worse if they don't have

1351
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: one of those players. But that's why one of them

1352
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 2: didn't win it. As they're taking votes of each other,

1353
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 2: it will be very of the thing.

1354
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 3: You said you don't think Dawson's up, There was actually

1355
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 3: some reference to one too, Or you don't think you'll

1356
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 3: poll in the top five or so.

1357
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 4: No, it's more more to genuinely contend to win. I

1358
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 4: don't think he's probably been like as prominent in enough games,

1359
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 4: is it not?

1360
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 3: Well?

1361
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 2: Forget sometimes that the Brown isn't about who feels like

1362
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 2: the best player, it's just who polls the most votes.

1363
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 2: Like I don't know if Ollie Wyans is ever the

1364
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 2: best player in the comp but he won a Brown

1365
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 2: Low and.

1366
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 3: Winning a lot of games, winning a lot of games

1367
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 3: for that period, and a lot.

1368
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 4: Of games because they've won so many times. I mean

1369
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 4: you have those games where you know, Isaac Crankin I

1370
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 4: might still votes.

1371
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 3: Phil Thorpe's the other one.

1372
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 4: I think, who could case of that because they won

1373
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 4: so many games.

1374
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, could be wrong, interesting times. We'll see if I

1375
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 2: don't think he's polling forty five this year at least,

1376
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 2: which was yeah, not that was brought it was so stupid. Well,

1377
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 2: we'll finish off with just the tips. You've got to

1378
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 2: wrap this up, so apologies for no Kevin Kevin Cheney fans.

1379
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 2: Nothing this week.

1380
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 4: Did you get twice tickets?

1381
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 2: Yesty Boy asked no, that they're doing their concert while

1382
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 2: I'm in Japan at the time. Okay, so I won't

1383
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: be able to go to see twice. I have seen

1384
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 2: them three times, I think, so I'm good. Thank you

1385
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 2: for asking though. Zesti Boy asked, well, you asked his question. Well,

1386
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 2: he didn't ask it to me, because he did ventually

1387
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 2: he did. Twice would be on my other pick, but

1388
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,919
Speaker 2: you know they're doing some concert at the moment. It's relevant. Okay,

1389
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 2: pop tips. No Thursday night footy this week because of

1390
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 2: the afl W season opener carl and Collingwood Icon Park.

1391
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,439
Speaker 2: The league opener, if you will, from the first season,

1392
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 2: should be good fun, so get down to that. It's

1393
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 2: always a good time to good a good sport to attend.

1394
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 2: I find great vibes at some of those games, and

1395
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 2: the Swanse for W games are apparently really good fun

1396
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 2: at Henson Park.

1397
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 3: Crows games at Nordover also.

1398
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 2: Very good, excellent and they're always a good team which helps. Yes,

1399
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 2: always the same teams contending. I'm looking forward to some

1400
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 2: equalization hitting the that comp but equalization wise, well, talk

1401
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 2: about that Essendon on a Friday night, What more do

1402
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 2: you want? They open us up against some Kilda at

1403
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 2: Marvel Stadium.

1404
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 3: Sant Kilda. But like I don't know, a bit of

1405
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 3: a slug I reckon it could be.

1406
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 4: No, it's a bold call. It would be a very

1407
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 4: big slugger. I agree saying, but this is probably Essendon's

1408
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:12,919
Speaker 4: most winnable primetime game that they've had.

1409
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 2: They have been okay the last two weeks, like forty

1410
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: four point loss, but okay against Gelong challenge Sydney at

1411
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 2: the SCG.

1412
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know this. You know, no one wants injuries,

1413
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 3: and they've obviously had a heck of a lot of

1414
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 3: them this season. But I think it has been a

1415
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 3: great chance for Esten to have a look at a

1416
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 3: really wide scope of players and a bit of an

1417
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 3: advantage is to who they wanted their list next year.

1418
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 3: I mean, Lie mcmind has been an awesome so Lie

1419
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 3: McMartin has been awesome find for them this year and

1420
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 3: they wouldn't have had that if it wasn't for for injuries.

1421
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 2: The Gay New done some good things he has yea,

1422
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: he played very well on Putdown. Yeah, so that's yeah.

1423
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 2: It's all you can hope for is positives going forward

1424
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 2: when you're in a season like this, reasonably bigger game,

1425
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 2: and I believe that if you're watching on Channel five

1426
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 2: or four, we will be switching over to this game

1427
01:00:55,840 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 2: once it begins. Freemantle hosting Brisbane at Opta Stadium Friday

1428
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 2: night footy winner plays finals, loser in trouble. Can't catch

1429
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 2: that one on Channel seven unless you're in those states. Well, yes, sir,

1430
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 2: unless you're in one of those two states. Oh, Freo,

1431
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 2: because I said that I definite would tip them, and

1432
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 2: Jack's hollis at one point, right, and we know who

1433
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 2: you're to be there in Leslie.

1434
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 4: Yes, Brisbane, Yeah, locked in, lock it in, Max.

1435
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 2: I don't like tipping Freo in this, but I think

1436
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 2: I will lean them because of the home ground advantage.

1437
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 3: That's it.

1438
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 2: The Brisbane should be better unless you bounce back. Gold

1439
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 2: Coast GWS another massive game at People First Stadium, twelve

1440
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 2: thirty five pm start, which is I like, actually Sons

1441
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 2: and Giants both needing a win to play finals. Giants

1442
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 2: could be in trouble if they lose this.

1443
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm going Gold Coast injuries at Giants

1444
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 3: that the Giants have kind of not a great time,

1445
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 3: so I would sip in gold Coast.

1446
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 4: I think I lean that way too.

1447
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 2: Should have won the game at a Giants stadium as well.

1448
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 3: Earlier this year. Giants absolutely revenge game, Yes, very much so.

1449
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 2: Also around that time, Carlton v Port Adelaide at Marvel,

1450
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: a battle of who will be better next year?

1451
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, who's already starting their rise to the top

1452
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 3: eight from the bottom eight.

1453
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 2: It's right, um, go on, yeah Carlton, Oh, Carlton, I

1454
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 2: think that's reasonable. Port played Marvel.

1455
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 3: Well, they do.

1456
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 4: They've got the best Marvel history in the last five years.

1457
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 4: It's ridiculous twelve and two or something.

1458
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and I think that beat them real earlier

1459
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 3: in the year. I reckon they did, Yes, yes, and

1460
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 3: I reckon that's where that streaks would have just clipped

1461
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 3: a little bit.

1462
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: That sounds that sounds tipping Carton. Yeah, when you're mocking

1463
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 2: him for tipping Carlton just like thirty seven. He wanted

1464
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 2: me to say Port yeah, oh, because you're a biased

1465
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 2: Adelaide and Port fan.

1466
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't figure that.

1467
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 4: Out goes for Port Adelaide. That's who he supports.

1468
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 3: Oh, certain reasons, bad decision this year, but journalist, we

1469
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 3: don't support teams.

1470
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 2: Hawthorne versus I loved along Hawthorne versus Melbourne at the

1471
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 2: SCG Hawks not quite winning in but effectively winning in.

1472
01:02:59,200 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: I think.

1473
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 3: I just love to see Melbourn play with the same

1474
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 3: style last week. Yeah, I think I think Hawthorne.

1475
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 2: Ye Adelaide. The Collingwood Saturday Night's main event. It's not

1476
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 2: on NBC, it's on Fox Footy that's a wrestling.

1477
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 4: Jokes main event the actual channel on Fox.

1478
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 2: Well, well, I mean I don't know if we show

1479
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 2: Saturday Night's main event on that because they're not pay

1480
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 2: per views, so it doesn't quite work anymore. We don't

1481
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 2: show that company anymore. M Please.

1482
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 3: I think Crows will win. I'll be tipping Collingwood.

1483
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 2: As I had done the entire couple of I mean,

1484
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 2: it's like me with Geelong, but I.

1485
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 3: Reckon I have sacrifice about eight tips this year just

1486
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 3: by Oh, you'd be winning, you'd be winning if you

1487
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 3: just yeah, I'm a.

1488
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 2: Hero, Okay, interesting, No, he would never Jack Collingwood. Collingwood.

1489
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, going rogue as well with.

1490
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 2: All the discussion we just had about the tall Forwards

1491
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 2: exploiting their well that that's a.

1492
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 4: Different discussion to where to my current tipping plot for last.

1493
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 2: All right, you are you are? You are third last.

1494
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 4: Thanks reminding me, But yeah, that's that is part of it.

1495
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1496
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 2: Well, I'm all I'm saying is the usual panel of

1497
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 2: people who are on this podcast sort of right at

1498
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 2: the top, and you guys dragging is all down. That's

1499
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 2: all I'm saying. North Melbourne Richmond at Ninja Stadium.

1500
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 3: Or Jack, this has your DNA written to.

1501
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 2: Pipping Crows, but the Way Stadium they don't. It's not

1502
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 2: a company of Ninja's. It's like smoothie makers and yeah,

1503
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 2: yeah crap like that battle for the bottom two, battle

1504
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 2: for escaping the bottom two. North Melbourne trying to not

1505
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 2: finish in the bottom two for the first time all decade.

1506
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: If they win this they should be fine. It would

1507
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 2: be nice to win, Jack, your boys.

1508
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 4: To be in North Melbourne.

1509
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you actually do think Richmon will win?

1510
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 2: Well, they're definitely.

1511
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 3: Not the question.

1512
01:04:56,160 --> 01:05:00,919
Speaker 4: Richmond have had a pretty patchy history tassi against North

1513
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 4: like we've had. Richmond have had some really poor losses.

1514
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 3: Okay, the historical losses often find I'm looking at the

1515
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 3: Tasmani games, like sometimes it's the first time they played

1516
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 3: there in eleven.

1517
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:11,439
Speaker 2: Years and it means nothing.

1518
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 4: Historical losses.

1519
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like the Dogs have an awesome record up on

1520
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 3: the at TiO Stadium in Darwin, but I think they've

1521
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 3: played there like twice in the last fifteen years.

1522
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 2: They hosted games there over two a.

1523
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 4: Few games out there in recently.

1524
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 2: On the team, I think Tasmini wants to make Richmond

1525
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 2: their team.

1526
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't want that.

1527
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 2: No, No, I don't want to sell any home games.

1528
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 4: No.

1529
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that Richmond like makes the most money

1530
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 2: of any club because of their bloody gyms and swimming

1531
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 2: pools thing whatever it's called, the leisure Shane Dune than

1532
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 2: u CEO is very prominent that it's better than Pokey's

1533
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 2: at least, yes it is.

1534
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 3: I think I'll tip North.

1535
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 2: Okay, that's very fair, thanks, so weil like Sydney v.

1536
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 2: Geelong at the SCG Sunday afternoon, bit of a banana

1537
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 2: peeal game perhaps for the Cats.

1538
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:56,919
Speaker 3: If they lose this game, the Cats are they out

1539
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 3: the top four?

1540
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 2: No, because Adelaide or Collingwood will lose.

1541
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1542
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 2: Well, well if Collywood wins, they could fall out temporarily.

1543
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 2: But I think Gelong still makes top four as long

1544
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 2: as they beat Richmond in the final.

1545
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 3: That was my greater question. Yes, obviously with that percentage.

1546
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 2: Ah, yes, exactly.

1547
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 3: Oh, Sydney, they've been the only team that have beaten

1548
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 3: the top nine teams trip they've beten too since the

1549
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 3: buy forty in two. I think is it.

1550
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 2: Something like that? Sounds correct? Two and two forty two

1551
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 2: and two even worse, although we had some close ones

1552
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 2: of the weekend, so you never know. Gelong doesn't play

1553
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 2: Sydney particularly well.

1554
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 3: No, s CG probably doesn't help. Yeah, I genuine think

1555
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 3: going Swan's.

1556
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 2: So lost by five goals last year and the draw

1557
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 2: be backing your boys in I will tip them a

1558
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 2: very bad draw in twenty twenty three. From memory fifty

1559
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 2: four all Geelong b.

1560
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 3: Sydney last year there was an unreal swing.

1561
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were five guys up.

1562
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 3: At all the time.

1563
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and zero point. Was Max ever confident in the No,

1564
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 4: we confirmed that live one of the rare games Max

1565
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 4: watches of the Cats.

1566
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 2: I wasn't confident. I wasn't confident fourth quarter of the

1567
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 2: Grand Final in twenty two. All right, that's just how

1568
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 2: I am.

1569
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 3: And you'll be watching again this weekend.

1570
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 4: Oh God to his absolute sagree.

1571
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 2: Why can't they just always plan on Saturday? For me?

1572
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 2: That'd be nice. We finish off with, well, the Bulldogs

1573
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 2: can't lose this one. Surely, not against West Coast at Marvel.

1574
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 3: State Lart twenty twenty three.

1575
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 2: As they did when West Coast were a two win

1576
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 2: team with a percentage of fifty and still beat the

1577
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 2: Bulldogs and ruined their season. Surely not again.

1578
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 3: Percentage to the thorn march for him?

1579
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 2: No, not really no, No West Coast of Lockton for

1580
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 2: the spoon.

1581
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 3: Tip matteh can in margin? That's more fun. Oh can

1582
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 3: they whack on my twelve goals?

1583
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 4: Already? Go on overtime? Man?

1584
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 2: They should, they should like they thump bad teams generally,

1585
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 2: we didn't last week.

1586
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 4: But Bulldogs yeah, Bulldocks.

1587
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 3: Margin mate.

1588
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 4: Seventy eight.

1589
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 2: All right, I'm going one and it's closer to that

1590
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 2: going over, so I win. Fantastic. All right, thanks everyone

1591
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 2: for listening this week, Jack, and well thank you for

1592
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 2: being on the show. Great hosting job, Masks hopefully Smith.

1593
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 2: Hopefully Ben is back by next week I can extricate

1594
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 2: him from helf from the judicial system.

1595
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 4: Where's the gable divert.

1596
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 2: That's right, you'll have the wig on and everything. It'll

1597
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:11,200
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01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:11,480
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