1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to three sixty rab League from every Angle, brought 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: to you by n ib Joining me again the great 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Gordon tell Us. Let's bring the journal in Australian, Poor Crawley 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: and Dave Ricchio. We have a massive show again on 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: your Tuesday night right here. But today Jerome Leui, he 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: survived a near death experience in New South Wales. Camp 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: out an urban surf. He's gone for a surf. He 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: looks like a natural and unfortunately you got caught in 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: a rip. 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 2: What's funny now, but like it would have been scary, 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: you know, like you never know what can happen with 12 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: the water. But been embarrassing awaypool crawls, Henry. 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: Isn't that where kids came to learn how to surf. 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 3: We're just putting the fear into Queensland, Gordon. 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 4: Well, Genn, know what, there's only one person from penrithacn 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 4: surf and that's Mick Fannigan and he's very good at her. 17 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 5: So stay out of the water, boys, said lucky. 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: David Hasselhoff was there. I would refer to Pamola two. Actually, 19 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: Gordy tonight, I felt to her top story. Las Vegas 20 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: is locked in for twenty twenty five and how good 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: is this? Four games? The women are traveling over to Vegas, 22 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: Australia taking on New Zealand. We've got the Super League 23 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: also the game before the two big ones for the NFL. 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: This is huge news. Last year was a success and 25 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: I'm guessing twenty twenty five will be bigger and better. 26 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 4: I think the amount of fans that traveled from England, 27 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 4: France and just other countries. I think it's a no 28 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 4: brainer to put some English sides in there the Super League, 29 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 4: so maybe Semi Burgess gets his side there, but I thought. 30 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 5: It was fantastic. It was the best start to a 31 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 5: season I've ever Well. 32 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: There, Sam's team will be there. 33 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: It was a raging success here, but over there, like 34 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: it's such a big market and you just don't look 35 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: at the playing market over there. There's the punting market, 36 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: the gambling, the money that the revenue that can come 37 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: from their revenge for our game is huge. So the 38 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: more the NRL invest in it, the more they'll get back. 39 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 6: Keeping in mind this is a five year deal, guys 40 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 6: to go to Vegas. 41 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 3: Second year installment, four quality teams. 42 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 6: The introduction of the to English sides Warrington and Wigan. 43 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 6: I think that's significant, guys, to the point where we 44 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 6: could be pushing, you know, it could go close to 45 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 6: a sellout. And I say that being on the ground 46 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 6: in Vegas earlier this season, the amount of English supporters 47 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 6: that were there long there was so many lots, and 48 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 6: I think the addition of Warrington and Wigan win immediately 49 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 6: adds another ten thousand traveling fans. 50 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 5: And the growth of the women's game. 51 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 4: They have a test match over there, especially for the 52 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 4: England girls as well. 53 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: It's going to be huge and Panthers superstar and eighth 54 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: and Cleary couldn't be happier to kick next season off 55 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: in Sin City. 56 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 7: All right, we're here to talk Vegas. 57 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 5: Nathan. 58 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: How excited does it make you? Yeah, very excited. 59 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 8: I think just the prospect I've been out of play 60 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 8: in a foreign place where we've never been before, and 61 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 8: after seeing it this year and just seeing the spectacle 62 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 8: that it was that it makes me very excited. 63 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 7: And who's made for Vegas? I mean I've got some 64 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 7: ideas about players who were made for Vegas. I think 65 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 7: I reckon Brian to Award. 66 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 8: You know, he's a first game and mine. I think 67 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 8: he's made for the Vegas crowd. He's made for that 68 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 8: American sort of charisma. 69 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: Another cool element to it is it's a farther Sun 70 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: experience for you. 71 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 8: I've actually thought of it like that, to be honest, 72 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 8: but like there's a lot of things now that we 73 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 8: can look back on when we're older and we're both 74 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 8: retired and being out of playing Vegas. Yeah, it's very 75 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 8: special and very grateful to do it. 76 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: Like Nathan, we all can't wait for Vegas. The countdown 77 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: the next week Sun Corp. The Side of continues and 78 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: Kirk cap Roll isn't buying into suggestions the Maroons were 79 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: bullied by the Blues in game two. This kind of monster, 80 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: he does inn how much of the motivations. 81 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, I wouldn't say we pushed around or monster, That's 82 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 9: probably not the right word, but they definitely be this. 83 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 9: I thought we got we got beaten a little bit 84 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 9: of the physicality too, so we'll work on that gone 85 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 9: into this game and I just as they gave a 86 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 9: foot end. Obviously they had all the momentum and started 87 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 9: the game and we went in our best, so they 88 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 9: took advantage of that. 89 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 5: But yeah, we lost crows. 90 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: That comes straight to you on this, you think forget 91 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: about the glass houses. This is the big issue for Queensland. 92 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: Going into game through. 93 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: The glasshouses is just a distraction the real issue and 94 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: the denial there it doesn't wash. They were bullied, they 95 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: were manhandled from the opening set of the game. And 96 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: that's where Queensland have to get it right next time. 97 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: Like Lindsey Collins, Reuben Codder Carrigan, they they didn't show 98 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: up in Melbourne. 99 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, only a difficult question for him to answer. 100 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 4: They did get bullied, they got manhandled, they got dominated, 101 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 4: and he can put whichever like whatever words he wants. 102 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 4: Queensland were out muscled, if that's the word he wants 103 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 4: to use. But they can't start a state of origin 104 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 4: like they did. 105 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 2: And they would have had to have been embarrassed, Gordy, 106 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: like you've been there, embarrassed anytime you lose. But the 107 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: way that they it wasn't it wasn't a close origin. 108 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: They were dominated. I just think for Queensland though, you know, 109 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: it starts with the back five, it starts with Dylan 110 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: Edwards and the wingers and the centers and the role 111 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: on that they got. 112 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 7: Queensland were never in that game. 113 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 5: Well, they didn't get the ball. 114 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: So obviously, you know, we spoke to Billy Slater last 115 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 4: night and if they don't get fifty percent of the ball, 116 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 4: well it could happen again. New South Wales are big, 117 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 4: they're dominant, they're fast, and it played into their hands. 118 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 4: They had all the ball in the first twenty three 119 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: minutes or whatever. We need equal share. 120 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 6: I think Kurt's been drinking a few too many four 121 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 6: exes guys, because well, there's a lot of a lot 122 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 6: wrong with that. Gordy to say that they weren't bullied 123 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 6: out muscles and then talk about they were beating physically, 124 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 6: it says everything that it was they were. They were bullied, 125 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 6: and I think even more so, I think it's been 126 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 6: underestimated how close the discussion point went to bringing Josh 127 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 6: Papali back coming back to Origin was for Queensland, and 128 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 6: I know Gordon with the first to raise it here 129 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 6: on three point sixty, but internally there's no doubt that 130 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 6: that decision went right down to the weekend and it 131 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 6: was only the performance of Kayle and Ponger on Sunday, 132 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 6: who came back from injury, proved he was not timid, 133 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 6: was willing to go after the game that was enough 134 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 6: to turn the tide and get Ponger onto that bench 135 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 6: as opposed to bringing back the veteran who they felt, 136 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 6: to Gordon's point, could bring back some ferocity to the past. 137 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: I think a few of the decisions on both teams 138 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: were more so coys. They went right down to the 139 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: wire and the very last minute. Let's head into Blues 140 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: camp now, jerame Lewit, you're standing by. Thanks for joining us, Jerome. 141 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: First things first, we always lost you today you mate. 142 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, boys, he's gone. 143 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 10: I definitely won't be gone back there anytime soon. But no, 144 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 10: definitely got a bit of tst on it. I think 145 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 10: that's what these cames so about having a good time 146 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 10: and yeah, all the boys got a good laugh out 147 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 10: of it. 148 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: Paul Crawley here, mate, have you mellowed this year? Because 149 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: your form has been absolutely outstanding, and particularly since you shifted. 150 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 7: To half back. 151 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: But I've also noticed that there's probably not as much 152 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: in your face footy from you this year. 153 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 5: Is it? 154 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: Is it a conscious decision or is it just coincidence? 155 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 5: I'm too sure, man. 156 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 10: I just think that I want to be a guy 157 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 10: that lets his footy do the talking. At the end 158 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 10: of the day, and I want to be known for 159 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 10: I guy that you know is a good player at 160 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 10: the end of the day. So, like you said, I 161 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 10: really loved the opportunity to play seven and I knew 162 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 10: I had to step up with Nathan at their Penrith. 163 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 10: But it's a pretty easy job to do with because 164 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 10: like antals in your team and things like that. So 165 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 10: I've been enjoying my footy this year. 166 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 6: Jerome Dave Ricky O here, mate, I just backing up 167 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 6: what my little mate said here in relation to the 168 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 6: way you've controlled your footy. But you are going to 169 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 6: the cauldron and they're going to be screaming your name 170 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 6: and warning your blood. How are you going to keep 171 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 6: you cool when the moment comes when these queensland Is 172 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 6: are going to come and try and niggle you verbally 173 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 6: and physically next Wednesday night. 174 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 10: I think I've just always been a player that's welcomed 175 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 10: that sort of atmosphere and environment. You know, if you 176 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 10: don't want to be a part of those big games 177 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 10: where the crowd's on top of you, then you know, 178 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 10: at the end of the day, why are you playing 179 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 10: this game? 180 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 5: You know. 181 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 10: So it's a great opportunity in front of us. You know, 182 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 10: people saying it's a hard place to play, and yeah, 183 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 10: I just can't wait to get out of there and 184 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 10: give it up a shot. 185 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 4: Hey, Jerame Callum Ponger got picked on the bench for Queensland. 186 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 4: What plan are you guys going to have defensively when 187 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 4: he comes on? 188 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 10: Yeah, he's a dangerous man. Obviously watched his last game 189 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 10: against the Raiders and the touches he had, it was 190 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 10: just dangerous whenever he touched the ball. So I think 191 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 10: he's hurt us in the past game. So you'll definitely 192 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 10: be a guy on the list though when he comes on, 193 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 10: we need a good do a good job collectively. 194 00:08:58,240 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 7: As a group. 195 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: TA fantastic in game two, as was your house partner 196 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: Mitch Moses. What did you enjoy the most out of 197 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: playing with Mitch and how would you describe the combination 198 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: that you two have got. 199 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, Mitchell was awesome. You know, he came in game 200 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 10: to miss dam one. I just thought he bought that 201 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 10: leadership and that clarity. He really asserted what he wanted 202 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 10: across the group with how we wanted to play so automatically. 203 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 10: Just it makes things clearer, makes our jobs easier, and 204 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 10: I think That's why we played so well in Melbourne. 205 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 10: But I'm gonna have to take to another level up 206 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 10: there in Brisbane. It's going to be a recommend. 207 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: Jerome, can I ask you about the development of Stephen Crichton, 208 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: Like we knew he was a great player at Penrith, 209 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 2: but his leadership and just the way that he's brought 210 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 2: that Canterbury team in behind him this year, it's amazed us. 211 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 7: Has it amazed you? 212 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: Did you know he had that leadership in him? 213 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 10: Yeah, definitely. It's no surprise to me, and I think 214 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 10: a lot of those path boys say the same thing. 215 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 10: I just think the way that he lives his life 216 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 10: is so consistent Header. He's a leader on and off 217 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 10: the field for his family as well, so coming into captaincy, 218 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 10: into that team environment, it was going to happen for 219 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 10: him naturally anyway. So I think it's just awesome, Like 220 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,359 Speaker 10: with the accolades and the attention he's getting. 221 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: There, Jerome, you're left center Bradman Best. 222 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 6: We know that he has gone for hamstring scans earlier 223 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 6: in the week. How confident are you that he will 224 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 6: be there next Wednesday night? 225 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 5: Yeah? Real confident. 226 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 10: He's coming. Confident himself so I guess that just gives 227 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 10: the group confident confidence that he'll be there next Wednesday. 228 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 10: I think he'll be like doing like trainings tomorrow and Thursday, 229 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 10: but he'll be there Wednesday. 230 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: Well, Jerome, we really appreciate you coming on the show. 231 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: You're having a magnificent year for the Panthers and an 232 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: awesome origin series so far. Go and get that win 233 00:10:52,840 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: against those bloody Coinsland as well. Yes, sir Love, Congratulations. 234 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: What are you he's had? I mean he's been outstairing. 235 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: We'll get back to Queensland. Now, what's going on with 236 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: Harry Grant? Where's he at? 237 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, it's sort of Flyn under the radar, guys. 238 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 6: The selection of Reed Marney on the extended reserves, as 239 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 6: far as the Maroons are concerned. 240 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: I think it's strategic, no doubt. 241 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 6: There is an important training session this Thursday for Harry 242 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 6: Grant of which the Queensland camp. 243 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 3: Must see Harry get through. 244 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 6: Now, it has been a sternam issue that has been 245 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 6: plaguing Harry up until this point in time. We know 246 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 6: that he's been rested for the last couple of weeks 247 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 6: with the storm. Up until this point he had been 248 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 6: receiving painkilling injections, a lot of padding. 249 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 3: On the sternum. 250 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 6: The Queensland is a very mindful of progressing further than Thursday. 251 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 6: With a player in doubt by the weekend, you really 252 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 6: want to know where you're heading. And certainly if you're 253 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 6: going to bring a reed Marny into the equation, you 254 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 6: want him training with the side. So this Thursday is 255 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 6: a very very important session for the fitness and the 256 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 6: availability of Harry Grant. 257 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 4: You would think Harry would be right. I think with 258 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 4: a sternum you can inject it and is that a 259 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 4: posed session? Is pain has playing for because otherwise yeah, 260 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 4: I mean like you would think that he will make 261 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 4: a decision on what's best for Queensland and the team. 262 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: How big of input does Melbourne have in this too, 263 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: because we're none we're midway through the season though none. 264 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: Is it an injury that can get worse though? 265 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 5: Oh look, there's no doubt. 266 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 4: Like I've had a sternum and you carry it for 267 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 4: the rest of the year and it's always there because 268 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 4: you use it so much in a game, right and 269 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 4: Harry he does what thirty or forty tackles in the middle, 270 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 4: So there's no doubt he might carry it for the 271 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 4: next six weeks, but there wouldn't be a player out. 272 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: There that's not carrying. It doesn't go away, Cruels, it doesn't. 273 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: Back in two thousand and four you have Grand Finals. 274 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: If we've got to the Grand foint, you get injected 275 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: straight through the chest and you're okay for the game, 276 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: very painful though, straight after the game, and you carry 277 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: it for the rest of the you have to wear 278 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: a padded guard. But he's tough. It's not ideal for Melbourne, 279 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: Let's be honest. But the prior right here is Game three, 280 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: Origin Decider Queensland. He's playing. But in saying that, Melbourne 281 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't be happy about it. 282 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 3: But what can you do in respect? Does it? 283 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 7: Does it last? 284 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: Does the painkillers last the whole game? Is there any 285 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 2: chance it doesn't work? 286 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: Or the last the game? But the night's sleeping. 287 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 6: It's not good in respect to the Storm. No Club, 288 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 6: and not not only the Storm No Club wants. 289 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 5: To be. 290 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 3: Telling a play that they can pull out of an 291 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 3: Origin game. 292 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 5: No, we haven't got to that yet. 293 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 6: Even to the point where the Newcastle Knights handed Bradman 294 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 6: best over to the New South Wales Rugby League and 295 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 6: said here's the scans, you make the decision. 296 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 3: It's your call. 297 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 5: Blue. 298 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 4: It'd be a brave club because if they did that 299 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 4: to me, I wouldn't have played for him again. If 300 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 4: they take away something that is so like, that's every 301 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 4: kid's dream. I'm pretty sure that's every kid's dream in 302 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 4: New South Wales, they pull on that jersey and go. 303 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 4: When a decider in Queensland to say hey mate, no, 304 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 4: we want you for club footy, I don't. 305 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: I think it's good the clubs respect that and then 306 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: you see it time and time again, Crawls. You are 307 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: worried about Mitchell Moses in this game. 308 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 2: Mitchell is a silly thing to say, because Mitchell Moses 309 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: was ten out of ten in Melbourne. He was so good, 310 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 2: but everything went his way. He played behind a pack 311 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: that dominated the team, you know, dominated possession, field position, 312 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: his kicking. 313 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 7: Game was extraordinary. Everything went his own way. 314 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: But we've seen the last two weeks with paramatter, the 315 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: frustration getting the better of him. And I guess going 316 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: up to that sun Corp Stadium environment where Queensland are 317 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: going to be going so much harder than they did 318 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: in Melbourne, there's there is a concern when you get 319 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: to the back if it is close and it gets 320 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: to the back end of the game and there is 321 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: some frustration out there. He has to be the guy 322 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: that keeps a clear head. And we saw it with 323 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: Jerry Evans the other night with his match winning field goal. 324 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: Yet again, how he just has that ability to just 325 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: come through the moment And I just wonder and I 326 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: don't think Moses has got it in it. 327 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: You bring up valid points. No one can deny or 328 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: take away the performance of Miching Game two. It was 329 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: one for the ages, one of the best origin performance 330 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: will see from a New South Wales half in the 331 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: history of origin. There is no denying that. But this 332 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: is a litmus test. This is different. 333 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 4: So what is so different right playing in front of 334 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 4: the Queensland fans to New South Wales as a as 335 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 4: a playmaker, as a new. 336 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: The difference is there's some controversial differences, but the big 337 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: difference is really is every player needs to be up, like, yeah, 338 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: there's no way Mitchell Moses plays the way that he 339 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: did without you talk about how ferocious New south Wales were. 340 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: Every player that in that squad. In game twill Melbourne 341 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: played their best game. So they got on the front foot. 342 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: Like you said, quick play the balls. They pushed Queensland, 343 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: irritated Queensland. They dominated the ruck, they got the quick 344 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: player of the balls, they had good field position, they 345 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: had time and space and it was a dream. But 346 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: that does doesn't happen in many origins, in hardly any origins. 347 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: You go to sun Corp, different scenario. You've got fifty 348 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: thousand crazy Queenslanders. 349 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 5: Time and space with the football. 350 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: You can hardly hear the guy next to you, let 351 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: alone coming up with a game plan or getting all 352 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: position to execute a certain player. You need to be 353 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: so aware and prepped for the game then you get there. 354 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: But the hard thing about sun Corp, the toughest thing 355 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: up there is if you get behind it is you 356 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: have got the biggest hill to climb because you've got 357 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: fifty thousand queens Landers behind them and a half whatever 358 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: it is. You've got the referee too, And whether you 359 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: want to admit it or not, when you've got the 360 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: fifty two and a half thousand queens Landers up there, 361 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: the referees tend to favor that as well. That's just 362 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: and that happens. I'm sorry, and that's what I fear. 363 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: In game two, we had the referee on our side 364 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: a little couple of six against early. We had the 365 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: penalty count the first half change in the second. But 366 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: that's why you're right, Mitchell, Moses did have it all 367 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: his own way. 368 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: And that's the other layer to this story too, because 369 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: actually one has got the job again and if there 370 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 2: were criticisms out of that game, is that he lets 371 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: some things go that aren't let go in other games. 372 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 3: Just want him to beat in system in game three. 373 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about, Gordian and that makes this 374 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: an emotional powder keg up there there's every and Billy 375 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: all eyes on Mitchell. 376 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 4: You guys make some valid points and you're right, but 377 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 4: New South Wales won that game. 378 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 5: The New South Wales plays, Yeah. 379 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 4: Well they they were, and it's just the time and 380 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 4: space they are. 381 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: They take the referee and the crowd out of it, 382 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: and that's hard to crause. 383 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 6: I think I couldn't agree more with Crauls's point about Mitchell. 384 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 6: I thought, I think he's he's certainly had opportunities to 385 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 6: go and win games with paramatter over the past few weeks. 386 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 6: The Canterbury game is a great example. It was there 387 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 6: to be won. He didn't go get it done. Jerome 388 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 6: Laie our guests tonight. 389 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: Is also a key factor in that. 390 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 6: If you think about Jerome and the Panthers, they've been 391 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 6: so dominant for so long. They play on the front 392 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 6: foot and lead games so often. But have we seen 393 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 6: enough of Jerome on the back foot and under pressure 394 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 6: behind on the scoreboard to chase a victory. It's only 395 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 6: a byproduct of how successful Penrithart's. 396 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 5: Were both for players. 397 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 1: Moses injury and that was the worry for me in 398 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: game two, but it was executed perfectly and we had 399 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: the running. Game three will be their biggest test, so 400 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it and I think they I 401 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: think they can deliver, but this is a big one 402 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: for them now. We didn't get to it last night, 403 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: but I know a lot of fans were interested about well. 404 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to hear more about this, as do I 405 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: were the Warriors robbed by the bunker against the Bulldogs. 406 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: This was the Jamins Salmon on Tomorrow, Martin late Hit Crawls. 407 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: You've got your opinion on this, I've certainly got mine. 408 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: I didn't like it. I thought they got it horribly wrong. 409 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: How did you see it? 410 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 7: It wasn't a mistake. It was a conscious decision. 411 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: And I say that because there was a stoppage in 412 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: play when this happened. It's what is it, six minutes 413 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: to go? He gets lit, hot, hit late and high. 414 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: One bloke goes off, Sammon goes off with a broken jaw, 415 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: Martin stays on the ground. There was ample opportunity for 416 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: that to be reviewed. Now, it's understandable if a referee 417 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: misses that in the heat of the moment, but for 418 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 2: the Bunker to then, with the match on the line, 419 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: not make that crucial decision, that's a decision and that's 420 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: going to water when the big calls there to be made. 421 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: You know, this is exactly what Bennett was blowing up 422 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: about a couple of weeks ago, the inconsistencies on these calls. 423 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 2: He says that every high tackle that's not you know, accidental, 424 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: should be a penalty. That had to be a penalty, 425 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: and the context of the Warriors season, that. 426 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: Could cost them. They I had minutes to make that call. 427 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: They had there was a stoppage in plakuers. Both players 428 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: were injured, and I think it was the day after 429 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: Seel was involved. There was a penalty for a late 430 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: shot that was really not much in it, and I 431 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: think hit Brandon Smith in the back. 432 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 4: That one soft and Brandon felt out. I wouldn't say 433 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 4: he milked it, but he jumped straight up. They got 434 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 4: a panelty, there. 435 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: Was one in the camera game where was it? Jordan 436 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: Rappner collected? So what ailm Ponger? It wasn't even higher. 437 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: And we keep on talking to us, but how do 438 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: we fix it that you fix it by making the decision, 439 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 2: because as we said, Gordy, you couldn't miss what happened 440 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: in that tackle, like it was a penalty every day 441 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: of the week. Yet when the game was on the line, 442 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: they chose to ignore it. 443 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 7: They didn't miss it, they ignored. 444 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: It's not about fixing it. That's common sense. 445 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: That's not it's cost of worries. It's cost of worries. 446 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 3: We all know that. 447 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 6: And I hate using the example of if this was 448 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 6: in a Grand Final it would cost someone a Grand 449 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 6: Final because every game is just as important, but that 450 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 6: could be Grand Final defining a call like that. 451 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: I think even Bulldogs fans would great, you know, like 452 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: I was going for the Bulldogs. I wanted them to win. 453 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: But I'm watching this goal and that's a penalty. 454 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 2: It's such a shame because its overshadows what was a 455 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 2: great game of football. You know, there was so much 456 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: theater in that game, and the Bulldogs played their hearts 457 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: out some of their defensive efforts in that game. 458 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 4: He straighten up and look at the defender. He has 459 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 4: time to straighten and look at the defender. 460 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: Let's forget the Warriors lost their back three as well, 461 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: and that was a courageous performance by them. They nearly 462 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: pulled off a miraculous win. The Dogs really should have won, 463 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: you know, but I thought the Warriors were doing a 464 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: great job considering you. 465 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 5: Know, they lost. 466 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: They had players going down their flight and center. Chance 467 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: to win the game denied it by just a poor decision. 468 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 5: Now another one. 469 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: Does j W H deserve a downgrade? So he got 470 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: a great two set to miss. I think it was 471 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: two to three weeks, but he's also going to three 472 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: to four. Sorry, he's going to fight this. I wasn't 473 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: sure about this. I'd like to give everyone else's opinion. 474 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 4: No, I called the game. I didn't think it was 475 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 4: a penalty when the first happened. I know he raced out. 476 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 4: I know it's Jared, but the player bounces straight back up. 477 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 4: So if it's a penalty, maybe you're fine, Like, is 478 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 4: that that bad? 479 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 7: What's it? Four weeks? 480 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 5: Is it? 481 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 7: He's looking three to four weeks he's looking at. 482 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 11: To me, even if there's that's not his first And 483 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 11: if there's loading, Dave, if that tackle wipes a front 484 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 11: row around for three to four weeks, that's where I 485 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 11: have the issue. 486 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 2: I don't whatever the system is that comes up with 487 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: that as a three to four week suspension. 488 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 7: There's a problem because that's not worth four weeks outside. 489 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it's worth That isn't too because as 490 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: Gordy said, he bounces straight back up. He plays the ball. 491 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: Guys don't cust the table. 492 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 4: That's what as a player and as an next player. 493 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 4: If I got hitler at because I turned, I missed 494 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 4: the spot, I could have gone on him. He closed 495 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 4: the space down on me, and then I cringe if 496 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 4: I stand and take it. So I'm not saying that 497 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 4: the dragons were going to be analyzed. 498 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: For his history. You know that that's the point of it. 499 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, but you can't being aggressive. 500 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,959 Speaker 6: I'm not saying Jared's a wonderful player outstand Where are 501 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 6: you happy for that? It's part of that's judicial process 502 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 6: at this point in time. 503 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 7: But you don't have a problem with that like that? 504 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 7: Is that okay? 505 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 6: Well, if he had a clean record, it wouldn't be 506 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 6: three to four weeks. 507 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 2: Well, he hasn't got a clean record, that's right, he 508 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 2: certainly doesn't. It's the title day, it's the moment he's 509 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: been pedalized for that moment on this occasion. 510 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 5: What is it grade too? 511 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: Is it? 512 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 5: Yes? Not a grade two? 513 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: That's the that's and the rusters don't believe it's a 514 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: grade two. 515 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 3: I'll give you that. 516 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 4: Well, but that's because in grade two they probably get 517 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 4: hit a bit of great. 518 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: Grade ones are fine, right, So that's what the rusters 519 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: in there challenging. So they're going to try and get 520 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: it from a grade two to grade one. Do you 521 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: think there are a chance now after what you. 522 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 3: Just said, Well, the potential of the downgrade on the grading. 523 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so you've softened a little bit more on 524 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: the grading. 525 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 3: But his history is going against him. I'm not going 526 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 3: to say run away from that fact. 527 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 4: There's no doubt that he goes to look but you 528 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 4: want those players in the game. 529 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 5: We can't rub them out. 530 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 4: Because watching that game, when Lenu gets back and he's 531 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 4: going to take the kickoff for all the white people 532 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 4: they want it in our game. The crowd got disappointed 533 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 4: and they bud when they like like when they kicked 534 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 4: it the other way. 535 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 5: We need Jared doing that. 536 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 4: We need him like playing three hundred and seven games 537 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 4: for that blood coming out doing that. So every now 538 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 4: and then they get it wrong, it's like, it's like, but. 539 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 7: We get back to the fact that four weeks suspension 540 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 7: and that tackle. 541 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: Was not He is the analogy before with well, I'll 542 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: move on with jam and seven. Sorry, what about if 543 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: the Grand Finals in four weeks and he misses a 544 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: Grand Final because of that shot? 545 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 3: Well, unfortunately his history is going against him. 546 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: But do you think it's right, Well, it's unfortunate. 547 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 5: Such a historian. 548 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: Another Anderson has welcomed the news Jason Rise will take 549 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: over as Paramount coach next season, despite the club taking 550 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: its time with the decision. 551 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 12: Oh, it's good that they finally come to a decision 552 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 12: and we can move on with where the club want 553 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 12: to go in the next three or four years. And 554 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 12: it probably took a little bit longer than everyone for it, 555 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 12: but they had to be thorough with the decision there 556 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 12: they were going through and it's just good that it's done. 557 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 12: We can move on and focus on the rest of you. 558 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 12: It would be great to keep Buzz around. He's been 559 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 12: great for us the last two years and the way 560 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 12: he's handled the last few months, I think it shows 561 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 12: the top person years and I would love to have 562 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 12: bas around, but that's out of my pay grade. You 563 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 12: think this might sort of steal the warners from Zach 564 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 12: about any hesitational has it coming with him? I don't 565 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 12: think there's any hesitation from Zaki. He's been calling me 566 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 12: weekly about footing and talking, so yeah, he's just looking 567 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 12: forward to a change. 568 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 3: I think even with Mitchie in Origin Cam he's. 569 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 5: Just been stuck to him. 570 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 3: So look, he's a great player. 571 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 5: We're looking forward to having he. 572 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: That's good news there, and no hesitation from Zach and 573 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: constant contact with key players in the Paramatta team, which 574 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: is good for their fans as well. 575 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 5: Uh. 576 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: Just with this, I mean Rosey, it's an interesting because 577 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: this is dragged on for a bit. Rosie has just 578 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: been handed the head coach role. Moses Guffo, R CG 579 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: have all responded to the to the signing of Jason 580 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: that they've been pretty flat, haven't they Like. 581 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 4: None of them sounded excited, like if I'm reading body Lane, 582 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 4: then I'm so excited. I can't wake the work with Jason. 583 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 4: Even if you do to the corporate line, it's something 584 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 4: that the paramount of management should have went down and 585 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 4: spoke to those guys about the sale to their fans. 586 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 5: They don't. They don't look excited. 587 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 2: It shows more so for me, more so than it 588 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 2: being a knock on Jason Rolls, which I'm sure, but 589 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 2: I believe it's a knock on the club and it 590 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: does show what it feels like, a divide between the 591 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: players and the club and the management. And even the 592 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: fact that Gutha just said just then, you know it 593 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: took a while to get there. 594 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 7: Well, it did take a. 595 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: While to get that. It's not got the shits about 596 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: it all. There's a vibe about that. 597 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: I've probably got a reason though, you know, because because 598 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 2: Brad got is that where it goes back if you 599 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: look at it. So there was a really good article 600 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: from Michael Chamis at The Herald today. He does a 601 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 2: fabulous job when he goes digging below the surface and 602 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 2: he finds out what's happening. But what struck me a 603 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: little bit was the message that was being sold by 604 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 2: Paramatter in that story. It was kind of like I 605 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: thought it should have started with Once upon a Time, 606 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 2: because they're they're rewriting history here and trying to make 607 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: it in a fairy tale to suit their own agendas. 608 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 2: And the fact is there is that they're saying they 609 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 2: need a coach to come along and steel culture and 610 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 2: pull the players together. Well, they are, sure they do, Gordy, 611 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 2: But the reason there was this divide is because there 612 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 2: was obviously Arthur and the players don't have trust in 613 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 2: the management. Maybe the management's better off looking in the 614 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: mirror and working out why the players feel that way, 615 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: because at the powerful clubs you make, it doesn't happen. 616 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 4: You make a lot of great points. But where were 617 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,239 Speaker 4: they coming on the competition? Just if they loved him 618 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 4: that much, why weren't they having a bit more of 619 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 4: a dig I get what you're saying, And then I'm 620 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 4: asking Paramata fan. 621 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: My concern also is the fact that they're selling themselves 622 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 2: now is what or the story has been sold as 623 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 2: the Broncos of West of the West the Sydney West. 624 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 7: They haven't won a comp since nineteen eighty six. 625 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 2: When a coach like Jason Rowls takes over a club 626 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: like that, and we've spoken about the fact that he's 627 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 2: a rookie head coach, he's got good experience and I'm 628 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: sure he'll do a fabulous job. But he's coming in 629 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: and he's going to need management to stand up and 630 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,239 Speaker 2: show him the way. You look at Trent Robinson at 631 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: the Roosters, right, Robo was a fantastic coach. You know, 632 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: he's one of the greatest coaches the game scene in 633 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: the modern game with his premierships and everything he's done 634 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: at the Roosters. But would he have achieved that if 635 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: he didn't have Nick Politis on his side and that 636 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: amazing board showing them the And that's the theory about paramount, 637 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: Like it's easy to say this, but you've got to 638 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: You've got to hold. 639 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 7: Up your end of the bargain too. 640 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 6: You can't deny that Jason Rowles is going to need 641 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 6: leadership from that playing group too, though Crauls, leadership from 642 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 6: the playing group will be paramount to the rookie coach. 643 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 6: Absolutely paramount, and I see a roster that needs to 644 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 6: be turned over, guys. 645 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 3: But that's where I think Paramatta rout. That's where it's 646 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 3: a roster that needs change and for salary cap movement. 647 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 6: For Jason to get active in the market, he's going 648 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 6: to have to tap some players on the shoulders. 649 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 3: And I would rather hear that. 650 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,959 Speaker 6: These players, to your point, are absolutely pumped to get 651 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 6: working with Jason, almost pitching to Jason that I want 652 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 6: to be here. 653 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 5: And turn the club around. 654 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: Beach of Rosey your head, especially with a few of 655 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: those contracts and clauses and ex y and Z, you 656 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: name it, They've got it. Thank you, Dave, Thank you Crawls. 657 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: Up next, James Graham and Aaron Woods joined the desk, 658 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: and tomorrow in Amissible Night of Boxing, Sam Goodman faces 659 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: off in a world title eliminator, live and exclusive on 660 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: Main Event m