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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fear and Greed business news you can use. Today,

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Speaker 1: the federal opposition and the Greens indicate they won't support

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Speaker 1: the government hate speech legislation next week. A shortage of

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Speaker 1: air traffic controllers causes chaos across the country and households

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Speaker 1: up there spending. Plus, NASA performs its first ever medical evacuation.

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Speaker 1: And we reveal the Hollywood star who has just become

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Speaker 1: the highest grossing actor of all time. And it's someone

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Speaker 1: that you may not actually expect. It is Friday, the

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Speaker 1: sixteenth of January twenty twenty six. I'm Michael Thompson and

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Speaker 1: good morning, Sean Aylmer.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Michael. Something for everyone this morning, especially that

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Speaker 2: NASA one specifically for ye.

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Speaker 1: It feels like that specifically for me. Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: The main story this morning, Sean Opposition leader Susan Lee

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Speaker 1: says her party will not vote for the government's omnibus

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Speaker 1: hate speech at legislation next week week, saying it's rushed

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Speaker 1: and almost unsalvagable. Meanwhile, the Greens, which hold the balance

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Speaker 1: of power in the Senate, have also balked at the legislation.

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Speaker 2: Yes, looks like it's in trouble already. Lee said the

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Speaker 2: Anti Semitism, Hate and Extremism Bill was half baked and

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Speaker 2: did not address Islamic extremism and the associated terrorist threat.

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Speaker 2: She said the bill clumsily tries to address hate speech

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Speaker 2: and control firearms, but has not withstood basic scrutiny, adding

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Speaker 2: that the legislation protected hate preachers through a carve out

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Speaker 2: on quoting from religious texts and risk criminalizing speech that

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Speaker 2: was not linked to any Semitism or radical Islam. She

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Speaker 2: was also critical of the gun buyback scheme, which is

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Speaker 2: part of the bill, and said in fact, she'll push

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Speaker 2: her own version of the bill, which took a bunch

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Speaker 2: of her MPs somewhat by surprise. Earlier yesterday, Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: Anthony Albernezi said he was stunned at the coalition wouldn't

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Speaker 2: vote or would vote against the legislation. Stunned he was,

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Speaker 2: and then yesterday afternoon the Greens joined the coalition, saying

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Speaker 2: legislation undermined political, civil and human rights. The government's Exposure draft,

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Speaker 2: released on Tuesday, creates a federal offense of publicly promoting

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Speaker 2: or inciting rachel hatred, alongside measures to curb radicalization, improve migration,

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Speaker 2: powers to block or cancel visas and prevent the import

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Speaker 1: What do you think here, Sean, Do the opposition parties

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Speaker 1: have a point because the legislation does seem to have

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Speaker 1: been certainly written very quickly, right, potentially rushed. Plenty of

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Speaker 1: disagreement even within religious groups about whether it's appropriate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot.

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Speaker 2: In the Executive Council of Australian Jury CO Chief Executive

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Speaker 2: Peter Wertheim urged the coalition not to allow the perfect

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Speaker 2: to become the enemy of the good. That's one way

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Speaker 2: to think about the legislation. You know, the government will

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Speaker 2: never get legislation that satisfies everyone, but this bill attempts

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Speaker 2: to confront bigotries. So that's that argument. On the other hand,

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Speaker 2: civil society groups, legal experts, some opposition MPs have argued

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Speaker 2: of potential overreach in the legislation and the lack of scrutiny.

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Speaker 2: And as you said, it's been rushed through, so I

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Speaker 2: dare say there has been a lack of scrutiny. Faith

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Speaker 2: groups have argued for and they've argued against the exemption

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Speaker 2: for quoting or referencing religious texts for the purposes of

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Speaker 2: religious teaching on this one, Michael, I mean, please, I'm

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Speaker 2: not a politician. I think it's a really really challenging issue.

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Speaker 2: If that's the case, we need legislation, but we need

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Speaker 2: good legislation, and I don't think I'm in a position

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Speaker 2: to say whether this is good legislation or not.

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Speaker 1: No, No, this is a really really hard one. As

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Speaker 1: you say, just be thankful that we are not politicians

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Speaker 1: trying to do it. But this is the purpose of

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Speaker 1: the two houses that there is enough review and there's

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Speaker 1: enough kind of time which is critical, that there is

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Speaker 1: time to review and to amend as required. So exactly,

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Speaker 1: I suspect we'll be talking about this one for a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Sean away from politics, the local share market.

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Speaker 1: How did we go yesterday? Did BHP take over from

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Speaker 1: Commonwealth Bank as the country's biggest company. We've been talking about.

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Speaker 2: It so closed, Michael, so close. At one point early afterwards,

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Speaker 2: probably late morning yesterday, it was getting there about three

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Speaker 2: yesterday BHP also jumped. It was at two hundred and

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Speaker 2: hit with a cell recommendation from City. Its share price

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Speaker 1: I don't want to trivialize investing at all, Sean, But

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Speaker 1: don't you think that something like BHPS passing Comnwealth Bank,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking fireworks, I'm thinking doves, something trade it like

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Speaker 1: the Big Bash, right, really get some kind of excitement

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Speaker 1: around it. So when this happens, there are trumpets, there's

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Speaker 1: No, no, nor of I might have pulled that one

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Speaker 1: there's a great time to start, and that's today. Sean

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Speaker 1: will be back in a moment with the rest of

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Speaker 1: the day's business news Sean. A shortage of air traffic

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Speaker 1: controllers yesterday caused chaos at Sydney Airport and then around

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Speaker 1: ten Virgin Australia flights affected by the I just don't

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Speaker 1: understand how you get a shortage of air traffic controllers.

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Speaker 1: It's such a critical job.

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Speaker 2: Apparently there was a significant number of controllers on sickly

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Speaker 2: and on cares leave. Now sickly you can't. Maybe you

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Speaker 2: can't actually control cares leave either, but that's what Air

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Speaker 2: It was the worst day for disruptions since the pandemic,

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Speaker 2: with cancelations, delays and passengers and at least one case

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Speaker 2: now are shorter than they were. The problem, of course,

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Speaker 2: And Sydney being the biggest airport in the country, when

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Speaker 1: How long before air traffic control is Wait, you're already

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Speaker 2: Your mind is wandering this morning, my No.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm being genuine AI right, when air traffic control

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Speaker 1: like this will push that along.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean surely they use AI already. Surely you

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Speaker 2: they do that using technology.

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Speaker 1: Well as an amateur air traffic controller I'm on my

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Speaker 1: flight radar program most days watching planes fly over going. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we're getting a bit close there, aren't you anyway? Sean

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Speaker 1: household consumption as picking up, where a surge in food

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Speaker 2: which looks at credit and debit card transactions. The HSI

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Speaker 2: index has recorded fifteen consecutive months of gains and your

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Speaker 2: pretty good. It suggests household consumptions running slightly ahead of expectations.

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Speaker 2: That's according to Commwealth Bank head of Australian Economics Belinda Allen.

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Speaker 2: Western Australia led to gains, then Queensland, New South Wales

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Speaker 1: At Rio Tinto and BHP will work together to extract

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Speaker 2: Under non buying agreements, BHP and Rio will assess working

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Speaker 1: Okay, turn into international news now. And in the US,

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Speaker 2: You suspect that you suspect that consumer prices are up

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Speaker 1: Okay, Sean, we mentioned this at the top of the show.

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Speaker 1: An astronaut in need of doctor's care has left the

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Speaker 1: International Space Station along with three crewmates, in NASA's first

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Speaker 2: Did you know when they set up in nineteen sixty

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Speaker 2: medical evacuation every three years. That's what they expected. Wow,

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Speaker 1: That's incredible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, The returning astronauts from the US, Russia in Japan

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Speaker 2: Officials weren't really telling us the health concerns specifically, or

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Speaker 2: which astronaut needed care. Well, I thought it was fascinating,

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to sense check this with you, because

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Speaker 2: I still find that hard to believe. It took eleven

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Speaker 2: nine were in orbit as space spacecraft's trajectory lined up

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Speaker 2: with its landing spot. According to Associated Press, sound right, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Makes sense, it's all downhill.

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Speaker 2: One US and two Russian astronauts. Astronauts remainable the orbiting

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Speaker 2: She won an Academy Award.

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Speaker 2: Sultana's cumulative global box office hall is now fifteen point

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Speaker 1: It's got to be Chris Hemsworth.

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Speaker 2: Yeap, yep, yep, yep, God of Thunder himself, number seven,

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Speaker 1: God of Thunder himself. Okay. From one God of Thunder

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Speaker 2: He's got a thunders through and through. Lachlan grew up

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Speaker 1: Well, you two are thundering on together.

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Speaker 2: Today, a little younger than me and probably a better

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Speaker 1: I suspect Son one hundred percent sure we're talking about anymore.

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Speaker 1: Dividend investing is the subject.

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Speaker 2: That's more about that than I do, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a great conversation. Is basically how to

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Speaker 1: so well. It's a really interesting conversation. It is coming

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Speaker 1: one pm. It is part of our Fear and Greed

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Speaker 1: or check our website Fearangreed dot com dot au. Thank

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Speaker 1: you very much, Sean.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Michael.

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