1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: I'll get a term. I hope you greats. This will 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: be brief. This is a solo as you probably already know, 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about the top. This is a 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: big topic, and I'm just opening the door. And more 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: than anything, this is not particularly instructural or rescriptive, but 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: it's something that I have been thinking about a lot lately. 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: I open these doors and go down these rabbit holes 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: where I I spent a lot of time thinking about 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: this stuff and writing notes and talking into my phone 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: and recording audio messages, and so this is a little 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: bit of a culmination of today and yesterday in between 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: other stuff. I've just been thinking broadly, I guess for 13 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: a long time, I've been thinking broadly about why why 14 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: people are so desperate to be right, and why we 15 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: are so resistant to quite often and anyone or anything 16 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: that doesn't agree with us or align with us, and 17 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: why there is such a I don't know if it's 18 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: more than ever, or it just seems like to me, 19 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: maybe it's just because I'm thinking about it or more 20 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: aware of it or more focused on it. But a 21 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: prevalence of confirmation bias, you know, echo chambers where people 22 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: only listen to people who agree with them or support them, 23 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: or have the same or similar ideology or philosophy or 24 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: lifestyle or training method or religion or culture, or they 25 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: basically hang out with either literally or metaphorically or virtually online. 26 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: They hang out with people who are essentially singing from 27 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: the same hymn sheet because that makes them feel good 28 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: about what they're doing and what they're saying, and what 29 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: they're believing and what they're thinking. And we don't like 30 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: to be uncomfortable. And anyone that might have evidence or 31 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: even a philosophy or ideology that doesn't agree with ours 32 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: or align with ours, for many reasons that I'll unpack 33 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: in a moment, could be considered to be some kind 34 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: of adversary that we need to conquer or at the 35 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: very least disagree with or disdain or dispute. But imagine 36 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: if we didn't imagine if imagine if we didn't have 37 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: to be right, Imagine if we were okay with not 38 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: knowing what, if we just went, I don't know, I 39 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: don't know what is right, I don't know what is 40 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,279 Speaker 1: wrong in terms of that that topic or that conversation. 41 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: And some will have very strong opinions and ideas on it. 42 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: But some it's like, sometimes people ask me questions about 43 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: things that I really don't have great knowledge or understanding of. 44 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: I really don't have the data. I don't have the 45 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: inside or the awareness or the knowledge. And there have 46 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: been lots of times when I have felt on my journey, 47 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: I've felt compelled to have an opinion about something I 48 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: didn't fucking know about because my ego or my self 49 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: esteem or I don't know, my need to please my people, 50 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: pleasing default setting just kind of raised its ugly head, 51 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: and so I had to appear like I knew something 52 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: so I could contribute, because who wants to go, oh, geez, 53 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, especially when people look up to you 54 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: or think you know stuff right. My ego definitely doesn't 55 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: want that. So it's been it's been a challenge for 56 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: me because I've liked being right. And then, you know, 57 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: this is one of the really hard things I think about, 58 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, personal development, the journey. Not personal development the 59 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: podcast or the book or the article or the video 60 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: or the program or the course or the cliche or 61 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: the poster, but personal development that is that is you developing, me, developing, improving, growing, 62 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: becoming more aware, more evolved that whatever that means doing 63 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: better things, creating better things, being more calm, more effective, 64 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: becoming really becoming a better version of myself or yourself? 65 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: What does that even mean? And I guess over the years, 66 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: there's probably been more than I don't even know, but 67 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: hundreds of things that I knew. When I say new, 68 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: I have that in inverted commas, that I knew that 69 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: I was right about. And then over time those things 70 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: that I was right about turns out I was wrong. 71 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't right at all, And but I truly believed 72 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: that I was right right. I was quite defiant. But 73 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: what had actually happened was I had confused believing with 74 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: knowing I didn't know. I actually didn't know. I just 75 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: thought I knew. And I'd confused thinking I was right 76 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: with actually being right. I didn't really know. I didn't know. 77 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: I just thought I knew. And of course I always 78 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: told myself. I always liked to believe that I was 79 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: open minded, because that made me feel good about me. 80 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: And we all like to feel good about ourselves. We 81 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: all want us, you know, think that we are open 82 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: minded and we are objective, but honestly, and this is see, 83 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: this is one of the tough things about this conversation 84 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: is not fucking open minded and objective, because our experience 85 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: of the world as individuals is a subjective interpretation of 86 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: things that are going on. Now, does that mean that 87 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: we have no capacity to be open minded about some things? No, 88 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't. It doesn't. But what it does mean is 89 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: when we know that, like, you know, one thing happens, 90 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: and ten people are there, one thing happens in that 91 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: three dimensional space, ten people witness it, or experience it, 92 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: or are in the middle of it. Well, they don't 93 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: all have the same interpretation. Therefore they don't all have 94 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: the same individual experience. And so part of this whole 95 00:06:53,800 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: you know, exploration is to think about what is real? 96 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: What is real? And what is my version of real? 97 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: And why? What is this compulsion that I have to 98 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: be right? And what is this compulsion that I have 99 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: when somebody questions what I think is right to not listen, 100 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: to shut down, to shut down, to not listen, to 101 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: be critical. For me, I think that in some regards 102 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: I was objective and open minded to an extent with 103 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: some things, but with many things I wasn't, you know, 104 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: with some subjects and conversations I was unteachable because I 105 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: already knew what was right, or more accurately, I believed 106 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: I knew, but I didn't. And so if you were 107 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: in my orbit, a potential teacher to me, and you 108 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: didn't agree with my thinking, then I couldn't learn anything 109 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: from you. I wouldn't let myself learn anything from you. 110 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: Were my intentions good? Yes, I think, I think, But 111 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: then maybe I'm trying to make myself feel good by 112 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: saying that I certainly didn't have bad intentions. I think 113 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: my intentions were mostly good. But were my beliefs correct, No, 114 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: they weren't. And of course my ego and my self 115 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: esteem were boosted by my story of how evolved and 116 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: caring and aware and open and even spiritual I was. 117 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: And I would even try to enlighten people that I 118 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: believed were flawed in their thinking with my correct thinking, 119 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: truly believing that I was going to open their eyes 120 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: to the truth, which was really just my thinking. Do 121 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: I get some things right? Of course? Do you get 122 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: some things right? Of course? We all get things right, 123 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: we all get things wrong. But we seem to live 124 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: in a time and a culture where people are terrified 125 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: of being wrong or owning up to the fact that 126 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: they just don't fucking know something more than ever I say, 127 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I could give you, 128 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: I could give you an opinion, but an opinions not knowledge, 129 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: and opinions not truth, opinions not evidence. I could tell 130 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: you my gut feeling. I could give you maybe an 131 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: insight based on another thing that's in the ballpark of 132 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: this thing, but none of that is absolute knowledge. So 133 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: here's what I think now these days, and here's what 134 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: I want you. I've got eight thoughts that I've jotted down. 135 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how this is going to go, but 136 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: I'll assume that you've consented to hearing these thoughts and 137 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: ideas because I've tuned in. So if you need to 138 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: jump out, this will be the time. So these are 139 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: my thoughts and my ideas around the topic of why 140 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: we are so adverse to terrified of against being wrong. 141 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: So number one is I've always and we'll all I've 142 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: always gotten and we'll always get things wrong. I could 143 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: be wrong with what I'm about to say next, but 144 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: I think i'm wrong less often. But I'm also open 145 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: to being wrong more than I was a lot more. 146 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: I'm more comfortable than ever, in fact, in my being 147 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: wrongness being wrongness definitely a term, by the way, And 148 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm also more comfortable than ever to talk about this 149 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: stuff publicly because I think I think that for me, 150 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: it keeps me grounded and it keeps me accountable. And 151 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: while I don't think I'm the high watermark for humility 152 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: because I've got an ego and I'm a fuck with 153 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: sometimes I think it keeps me more humble than I 154 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: would be otherwise. And I've also received feedback from some 155 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: of you that tell me that you find it somewhat 156 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: encouraging and reassuring that that I'm that I'm regularly fucking 157 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: up and getting things wrong, and that I have good 158 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: and bad days, and that I have peaks and troughs, 159 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: and that you know I make mistakes, and of course 160 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: I do all of that. Idea number two is that 161 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: a point number two is that I think the the 162 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: idea of saying I don't know, or I'm wrong or 163 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: I don't un understand, for many people, not all, but 164 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: for many people, that doesn't really fit within the typical 165 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: social operating system of trying to appear smart, trying to 166 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: seem informed and evolved, and educated and spiritual and fill 167 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: in the blank. Being perceived as not knowing, being perceived 168 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: as being stupid or ignorant or incompetent definitely ain't going 169 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: to get us any social status points. And so in 170 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: our culture we are culturally sorry for the repetition there, 171 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: but culturally sociologically and psychologically incentivized to act smart, to 172 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: pretend that we know, to pretend that we're right, and 173 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: to have to seem to have opinions on things that 174 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: we actually know fuck all about because we don't want 175 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: to look dumb. We want to fit in. And part 176 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: of fitting in, part of belonging, part of being accepted, 177 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: part of being valued, part of being perceived in a 178 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: certain way, is about presenting ourselves in a certain way. 179 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: And we were always presenting ourselves, not always, but we're 180 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: often presenting ourselves in a way publicly that we believe 181 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: will be the most socially rewarded, culturally accepted, the most valued. 182 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: And who wants to appear ignorant? Who wants to appear incompetent, 183 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: who wants to appear stupid or unknowing? We don't. We don't. 184 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: Idea Number three is that most of us don't choose 185 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: our beliefs or didn't choose our beliefs, or most of 186 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: our belief you think about the things that and I've 187 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: spoken about this many times, but think about the genesis, 188 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: the origin story of the things that you believe to 189 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: be true. When did you make a decision about Think 190 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: about some fundamental truths. And it could be something like 191 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: I believe in God, or it could be something like 192 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: this political party is bad, or it could be something 193 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: like I'm lacking talent and I will never succeed. And 194 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: they all can be life changing, life informing, life limiting, 195 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: or life empowering beliefs. There are good and bad beliefs, 196 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: of course, positive and negative, empowering and disempowering. But think 197 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: about try to remember the time that you chose each 198 00:14:54,960 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: of those individual beliefs. And for most of us, we 199 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: can't remember that time because we never chose any of them. 200 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: Those beliefs just kind of chose us. Those beliefs that 201 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: we have, for better or worse, are really consequences of 202 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: interactions with people and things in our world. People, family, friends, coaches, teachers, partners, idols, 203 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: people we look up to, all things media, social media, TV, books, magazines, 204 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: our church, our synagogue, our culture, our group, our company, 205 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: our organization, the people that we intersect with. All of 206 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: these things have influenced and informed how we think, what 207 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: we think, the way we think, and the way we believe, 208 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: and in many ways we are just a byproduct of that. 209 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: And then we believe a way, think a certain way, 210 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: and know certain things, or we think we do not 211 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: because we've thought critically and we've analyzed the data and 212 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: we've looked at different options and come to a conscious conclusion. 213 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: But rather the way that we think, the way that 214 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: we believe, and what we believe, that is merely a 215 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: byproduct of where we've been, what we've seen, who we've 216 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: been around. We're taught, we're taught how to think and 217 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: what to think. And once we're taught how to think 218 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: and what we think, we do we kind of do 219 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: what we've been trained to do. And then when you 220 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: have as a consequence of that training, that programming, that 221 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: informing that conditioning, now you have these set ideas, these 222 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: set beliefs, these set opinions, these set thoughts, and then 223 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: something kind of intersex with that thought, that philosophy, that 224 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: ideology that doesn't resonate you desperately want to criticize that 225 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: because that is something of a threat. Well, unpack that 226 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: more in a moment, and I think point number four. 227 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: It's like we talk about authenticity and humility and vulnerability, 228 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: like we all. I mean, it's almost over talked about, 229 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: you know, this whole thing of being true to ourselves 230 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: and the real you and vulnerable and authentic and humble 231 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: and aware. And while we like the idea of that stuff, 232 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: I want to be authentic at all costs. I want 233 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: to be vulnerable. I want to be real. We like 234 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: the idea, we like the theory, we like the sound 235 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: of that. We want to do it. But in my 236 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: experience and observation only, this is my anecdotal evidence, very 237 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: people will do it. It's like when people come to my 238 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: workshops and I'm talking about things like this and people 239 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: nod their head, and people put up their hand, and 240 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: people tell me at the end they've had a light 241 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: bulb moment or multiple light bold moments, and I say, 242 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: put up your hand. If this is resonating hands go up, 243 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: put up your hand, if this is you, that this 244 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: is me, fuck yeah, put up your hand. If you 245 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: feel like this is going to be the start for 246 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: you to change something big or smile on the hands 247 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: go up. Then people go home and don't do anything. 248 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: Because the idea of being vulnerable, authentic, willing to be wrong, humble, 249 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: self aware, the idea of doing all of these things 250 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: requires no efforts but to actually do them, to put 251 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: them into practice, to be the person who who turns 252 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: that intention, that want, that desire to be all of 253 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: these things, who turns that into a process, into action, 254 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: into outcomes, and then creates a new personal reality. I 255 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: am this person now and I'm putting up my hand. 256 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: This is hard, and I'm not there yet. I'm definitely 257 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: not there yet, but I'm I'm a work in progress. 258 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: Like the idea of being all of this great stuff 259 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: that we talk about on this show, and this is 260 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: an ever present reality. The idea is, remember this is 261 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: just the new project. Is just a bloke and sometimes 262 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: a bloken a guess, mostly a bloken a guess talking 263 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: about stuff. We're just talking about stuff, and you're just 264 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: listening to a bloke today talk about stuff. It's just 265 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: theory until you say, you know what, fuck it, I'm 266 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: going to make this theory. These words, these ideas, these intentions, 267 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: these things that I want to do, but keep finding 268 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: a reason to not actually do them. I'm going to commit. 269 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to fully commit, and I'm going to do it. 270 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: And I know that it won't be painless and fun 271 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: and quick and sexy, and I get all of that, 272 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, I am fucking in because I am so 273 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: tired of having awareness and realization and information and education 274 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: and inspiration that's relevant to me, that's meaningful for me, 275 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: that's potentially transformational for me. That I do not operate, 276 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: that I do not operate in, that I do not operationalize, 277 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: that I do not fucking do something with This is 278 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: the thing, and this is why. And I'm not frustrated, 279 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: but he says defensively, I'm not. But I get excited, 280 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: I get motivated, I get my energy goes up because 281 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: this stuff that I'm talking about now, this is the stuff. 282 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: This is the stuff that changes us. Listening to me 283 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: doesn't change you. Reading a book doesn't change you. Turning 284 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: up to a workshop doesn't change you. Knowing getting new 285 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: information doesn't change you. Somebody encouraging you doesn't change you. 286 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: All of those things that I just mentioned might or 287 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: might not impact you. And as a result, you may 288 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: or may not make a decision or decisions, and you 289 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: may or may not take some action, and you may 290 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: or may not persevere, and you may or may not improvise, 291 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: adapt and overcome in the fucking mayhem of doing the work. 292 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: And you may keep going, and you may change your 293 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: life or none of that. But irrespective of the idea, 294 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: the information or the stimulus, be that my show, be 295 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: that a book, be that a moment in time, be 296 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: that some kind of personal revelation, irrespective of the stimulus 297 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: or the external influence, it still comes down to you. 298 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: Number six is the truth. That truth according to me. 299 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: So take that with a grain of salt. That we 300 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: all look at the world through our own window. And that, 301 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: of course window is a metaphor, of course, but I 302 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 1: guess if we're talking about this metaphorical window, our window 303 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: would be comprised of things like our beliefs, our values, 304 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: our ideas, our experiences, our memories, our lifestyle, aforementioned programming 305 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: and indoctrination, and all of the influence is s an 306 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: influence who influence ers ers on planet us. But more 307 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: often than not, we don't even see the window because 308 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: our face is pressed up against the glass. We don't 309 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: see it. We don't see our own programming. We don't 310 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: see our bias. We don't see that we are being shaped, molded, influenced, 311 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: and to a large extent, determined by the things that 312 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: we think and believe, irrespective of how right or wrong 313 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: they are. So back to the topic of the chat, 314 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 1: which is being prepared to be wrong and being okay 315 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: with it. And while we're why we are so terrified 316 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: of being wrong. The challenge for us, part of the 317 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: challenge is to recognize our own programming. This is not 318 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: to say, ah, it's everything I thought was right is 319 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: now wrong. It's not that at all. It's just recognizing, Oh, 320 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: I know why I think this way. I know where 321 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: this belief came from. I know I see that particular 322 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: topic or situation the way that I see it because 323 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: Dad does and Dad's been my dad forever, and he 324 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: thinks that, and and I love Dad, and I respect Dad, 325 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: or Mum and Mum thinks this, and I think that, 326 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: and maybe Mum's right, maybe Dad's wrong, or the other 327 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: way around, or but nonetheless, it's good to have that 328 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: awareness and then consider that maybe maybe I'm looking through 329 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: Mum's window and Dad's window half the time. Maybe I 330 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: don't need to look through a window at all. Maybe 331 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: I can look beyond the window and see what is 332 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: not just what I believe is. Number seven is because 333 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: why people are so desperate to be right and not 334 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: wrong is because sometimes that's what the group that someone 335 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: is in requires. Like we have been in groups where 336 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: in order to stay in the group that I was in, 337 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: I needed to believe certain things and do certain things, 338 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 1: and align with certain things and behave certain ways, and 339 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: all of those absolute non negotiables were prerequisites of being 340 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,239 Speaker 1: in the group. And so in order to stay in 341 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: the group, I need to make sure that I defend 342 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: the thinking of the group. I need to defend the beliefs, 343 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: the mandates, the ideology, the philosophy of the group. Because 344 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: I am in the right group, of course I'm in 345 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: the right group, and everyone who isn't in my group 346 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: is in obviously the wrong group. And because I'm in 347 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: the right group, then what I believe in, what I 348 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: think being part of the right group is right. And 349 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: this is why people don't want to be wrong. I mean, 350 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: imagine if after years or decades of believing a certain thing, 351 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: and I know this is scary. But imagine if somehow 352 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: you actually truly discovered Imagine if some curtain was pulled 353 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: back in your brain, some metaphoric curtain got pulled back 354 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: that exposed you to the truth that you couldn't see, 355 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: a truth that you couldn't see. I mean, wow. I 356 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: mean over the years, when I really believe certain things, 357 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: and sometimes I would get presented with not a thought 358 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: or an idea, but actually evidence like yeah, data, science, 359 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: like hard evidence that, by the way, did prove to 360 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: be true, not pseudo evidence or pseudoscience. Oh. I really 361 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: pushed back. I really pushed back because when I've believed 362 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: a certain thing for a long time and then all 363 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: of a sudden, I get some new information that is 364 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 1: not in line with what I know. In inverted commas, 365 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: is right, that shit's going to fuck you up. That's 366 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: going to dissorient your whole cognitive, emotional, sociological world, Like 367 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: how on earth? Like that's the that's terrifying, you know, 368 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: And this is the This is the again, this is 369 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: the practical reality of actually being vulnerable, of actually being 370 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: open to learning and unlearning. Like I've said, people love 371 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: the idea of it because sounds good, I want to 372 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: be vulable, vulnerable. I want to be raw, real, authentic. 373 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: I want to be open to learning and unlearning. Yeah, 374 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: high five until you actually discover that the thing that 375 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: is intertwined with who you are is bullshit or is 376 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: only partially true. And number eight, recognizing acknowledging and leaning 377 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: into our lack of knowledge and understanding of certain things. 378 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to say that again, recognizing acknowledging and even 379 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: leaning into our lack of knowledge and understanding of certain 380 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: things in front of other people. Like being real and 381 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: raw like this is actually an exercise in self awareness 382 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: and humility and authenticity and personal growth because you're doing 383 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: we're doing the hard thing, the hard thing, the uncomfortable thing. 384 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: And most importantly in that scenario, when you're leaning into 385 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,239 Speaker 1: you know, when you're saying, oh look I don't know, 386 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: or you're saying I got it wrong, or you're saying 387 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: I fucked up, or you're saying I was misinformed, that 388 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: is that is an exercise in resilience. That is an 389 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: exercise in growth. That is that is you not role playing, 390 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: not pretending, not trying to gain social status or social 391 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: credit points. That's you being real and raw no matter 392 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: the social cost, no matter the outcome. And this is 393 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: the you know, the personal development journey. While there is 394 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: a lot of you know resources, books and me and 395 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: videos and podcasts, and I mean, there's mountains of shit, 396 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: right and you all know that there's fucking mountains of stuff. 397 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: Some of it's bullshit, some of it's brilliant, some of 398 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: it's in between. And if I'm being honest, probably I 399 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: vary between bullshit and brilliant. Who knows, I don't know. 400 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: I'll let you decide. 401 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: But but really, really, really, the personal growth journey is lonely. 402 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: It's lonely because ultimately, it's you. It's you and your thoughts, 403 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: it's you and your courage, it's you and your self awareness, 404 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: it's you and your honesty. It's you. When no one's 405 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: fucking looking, it's you. It's you. Going I fucked up. 406 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: Not here's five excuses. Just I fucked up. I'm not 407 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: looking for self pity or a pat on back or 408 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: a fucking group hug. Just I fucked up. And that's okay. 409 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: Now I know better. I'm going to do better. I 410 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: got that wrong. I've got lots of things right, I've 411 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: got a few things wrong. I'm trying like this journey. 412 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: You know, I'm fifteen hundred and whatever episodes in now 413 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: I must be nearly fifteen fifty. I don't know, but like, 414 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: this is the thing. Like I'm sitting here, it's Saturday night, 415 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: it's June one, it's eight forty seven, and I was 416 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: just sitting here writing some stuff, and I decided to 417 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: just record this in the moment and right now, sitting 418 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: in my house by myself, I'm reflecting, I'm thinking, and 419 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: this is raw and real. This is not manufactured, this 420 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: is not scripted. I'm not role playing. And some people 421 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: will do I think everyone will love this, of course 422 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: I don't. Do. I think some people have already tuned out. 423 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: Of course they have. Do. I think some people are 424 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: going to find a reason to to take action. I 425 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: do do. I think some people will give it another 426 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: day or two's thought. I do. Do. I think some 427 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: people will think it's bullshit and discard it. I do. 428 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: And all of that is okay. When I want to 429 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: coach someone, or I do coach someone, or I want 430 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: to encourage or support or serve someone, what I care 431 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: about is first and foremost, like, are they ready to 432 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: do the work because it doesn't matter what I'm saying, 433 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: doesn't matter how right, accurate, informed, well intentioned it is, 434 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: or whoever is. What matters is that we're ready to 435 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: actually take charge, and we're ready to be okay with 436 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: being flawed. We're ready to be okay being wrong. We're 437 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: ready to be okay publicly socially with saying I don't know, 438 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: or I'm embarrassed, or I'm a bit scared, or I 439 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: feel a bit insecure, because all of those things are 440 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: true for all of us. At some stage, I think 441 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: that's it. I think I'm done. It's probably more, but 442 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: maybe I need a cup of tea. See your team, 443 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: Hope you got something from that