Speaker 1: From the Skyinging Center.
Speaker 2: This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 3: I thanks very much for watching. Lots to get to
Speaker 3: it tonight. Yes, of course, the battle about who should
Speaker 3: come to the country and the manner in which they
Speaker 3: should come, it's been one that we've had for more
Speaker 3: than twenty years, and new version of it tonight we'll
Speaker 3: get to that. From a bishop and Stephen Conroy. There's
Speaker 3: also great idea about something that I know a lot
Speaker 3: of it you care about, which is how do.
Speaker 2: We get more people into their first home.
Speaker 3: Great idea, a solution, not just talking about the problem tonight,
Speaker 3: and a maniple Beacon Kelly about everything that is happening
Speaker 3: in the United States. If I seem a little different
Speaker 3: tonight than I normally am, it's because I am. If
Speaker 3: I seem a little rattled tonight, it's because I am.
Speaker 3: If it seems I'm a little emotional tonight, I apologize
Speaker 3: because I am.
Speaker 2: As you know, I am.
Speaker 3: The father of the world's best little girls, and they
Speaker 3: are in the public education system. I'm proud of them
Speaker 3: and proud of their teachers, and I'm proud of their friends.
Speaker 3: But we have to talk tonight about how we are
Speaker 3: letting our kids down and that the kids are not
Speaker 3: all right. I'm not saying that about my girls. I'm
Speaker 3: saying that about.
Speaker 2: All the kids.
Speaker 3: We spend in public education between the federal, state and governments,
Speaker 3: twenty eight billion dollars from the federal government, fifty two
Speaker 3: billion dollars from the state governments, back and forth.
Speaker 2: Take a little year, push a little.
Speaker 3: There, seventy billion dollars, seventy billion dollars. Today we learned
Speaker 3: that yet again, despite the money which has gone up
Speaker 3: a little since those numbers, despite.
Speaker 2: The fact that if you look at it over.
Speaker 3: Five years or ten years, you start to get into
Speaker 3: crazy numbers of hundreds of billions of dollars, we are
Speaker 3: going backwards. It matters because education is such a key.
Speaker 3: It's an ability to change your life and its ability
Speaker 3: to set you up for a life. Today, the Napline
Speaker 3: results showed that one in three Australian students primary upper primary,
Speaker 3: high school one in three are not meeting basic literacy
Speaker 3: and numeracy standards. Now, I know that this is not
Speaker 3: going to fire up people like the refugee stuff and
Speaker 3: all the rest, but this is the only thing that
Speaker 3: really matters, because this is our country and it's the
Speaker 3: future of our country. And I've done versions of this
Speaker 3: editorial multiple times where you thunder and scream and flip the.
Speaker 2: Table and hope that that's going to get a bit
Speaker 2: of attention, but it doesn't.
Speaker 3: Instead, the same results every bloody year. Well again, the
Speaker 3: results again are across numeracy and spelling and.
Speaker 2: Grammar and everything else.
Speaker 3: Now half the country's great, sixteen percent of the country
Speaker 3: absolutely nailing it. But then there's about thirty three percent
Speaker 3: of the country that is below standard. There's the best
Speaker 3: part of ten percent of the country that are so
Speaker 3: far behind.
Speaker 2: That they need support.
Speaker 3: The article from the ABC about this there's one in
Speaker 3: three Australian school students is not meeting the literacy and
Speaker 3: numeracy benchmarks and more than one in ten additional support
Speaker 3: one intend and need additional support. Experts say that the
Speaker 3: scores demonstrate the urgent need for classroom reforms. Otherwise a
Speaker 3: significant part of a generation looks set to miss out
Speaker 3: on crucial foundational learning. Now, I repeat every teacher that
Speaker 3: I've met the whole time in my little girls.
Speaker 2: You are amazing.
Speaker 3: Thank you, And to so many of the teachers, they
Speaker 3: are great. Whoever setting the curriculum and whoever sort of
Speaker 3: throwing in the wokeness.
Speaker 2: I have my issues with you, all right, So I
Speaker 2: know there's a.
Speaker 3: Difference between the ultra ultra frontline and the people that
Speaker 3: are making decisions about I get all of that wrong.
Speaker 3: This is the future of our country. We talk about
Speaker 3: the future of our country. Are we able to defend
Speaker 3: ourselves against China? Well, this is our country today and
Speaker 3: we are getting a report that a third of its
Speaker 3: future is not up to scratch. And not because they're dumb.
Speaker 3: Something's wrong. Something's wrong in the fundamentals, it's wrong in
Speaker 3: the way where parenting or I don't know, but something's wrong.
Speaker 3: And I want to ring a damn bell that something
Speaker 3: is wrong.
Speaker 2: And if you're one of.
Speaker 3: The people whose kids are in the fifty percent that
Speaker 3: are fine or the sixteen percent of.
Speaker 2: Great, good luck. But all of us have to care
Speaker 2: about who's been left behind.
Speaker 3: Here Someone from the Gratin Institute, Yes, are lefty, but
Speaker 3: still says in plain English one third of Australian children
Speaker 3: are not on track with their learning. It's almost half
Speaker 3: a million students around the country that are not where
Speaker 3: we need them to be. The results are bad everywhere
Speaker 3: bad in New South Wales, bad in Victoria, bad in Queensland.
Speaker 2: Now amazingly.
Speaker 3: There was not a lot of focus today in cambrid
Speaker 3: because again, the more interesting conversation is all the sort
Speaker 3: of heavily emotional conversations about who should come here in
Speaker 3: the manner in which they should come. And I understand
Speaker 3: why that debate matters, but I absolutely believe that this
Speaker 3: is the lead story today. We have become so used
Speaker 3: to these results that they don't they said, no, shutter
Speaker 3: up a spine, and nobody's asses kicked into action, and
Speaker 3: nobody loses their job because of the endless failures, and
Speaker 3: nobody promises to do better, and we don't change the thinking.
Speaker 3: As Kevin Donnelly the education experts often says it, the
Speaker 3: same people keep read writing the rule book. Well guess
Speaker 3: what happens, the same outcomes. We absolutely need fresh and
Speaker 3: new thinking. Why don't we turn to school systems that
Speaker 3: work better than ours, that get better results than ours,
Speaker 3: and try to bring in some of these experts from
Speaker 3: overseas to have a look at our system and say
Speaker 3: that's wrong, that's wrong, that's okay, that's a good idea.
Speaker 3: But if we just keep sort of having the same
Speaker 3: conversation amongst ourselves.
Speaker 2: The results are obvious. A couple of years ago I
Speaker 2: told you the three hundred.
Speaker 3: B four billion dollars had been spent on schools, yet
Speaker 3: things started going backwards and had been going backwards every year.
Speaker 2: It's a couple of.
Speaker 3: Years after we had that conversation, so you can add
Speaker 3: another couple of hundred billion dollars onto it, like half
Speaker 3: a trillion dollars, and they go backwards every year. A
Speaker 3: significant number of kids are left behind. Now Jason Clare
Speaker 3: is the Education Minister, he should be ashamed of these results. Instead,
Speaker 3: he is trying to use these results to yet again
Speaker 3: have a change of the education system, where no doubt
Speaker 3: the exact same people who got us in this mess
Speaker 3: will be the exact same people who will design a
Speaker 3: new way of getting back into the same mess. But
Speaker 3: that said, he said the right thing today in our
Speaker 3: federal Parliament about how bad these numbers are.
Speaker 2: What the results don't show.
Speaker 4: But I want to inform the house is it's only
Speaker 4: twenty percent of those children who fall behind when they're
Speaker 4: little who catch up by the time they're in year
Speaker 4: nine in the middle of high school.
Speaker 2: Hear that.
Speaker 3: Just twenty percent of the kids that fall behind actually
Speaker 3: catch up, so eight out of ten of the three
Speaker 3: out of ten do not catch up. Now, I'm a
Speaker 3: person who speaks with no authority but absolute interest in
Speaker 3: this subject because, as I've told you many times before,
Speaker 3: I'm high functioning dyslexic. I'm a person who absolutely bombed
Speaker 3: year twelve and got like forty something out of one hundred.
Speaker 3: I'm lucky because i have a certain series of talents.
Speaker 3: And I'm sitting here tonight not asking for pity, but
Speaker 3: very aware that there are people who struggle in our
Speaker 3: school system who don't end up sitting where I'm sitting
Speaker 3: right now, and we've got to talk about it. I
Speaker 3: want those kids to be okay, and I want our
Speaker 3: system to be the one that will help them be okay.
Speaker 3: And I don't care how much money it costs if
Speaker 3: it's not the same people making the same mistakes over
Speaker 3: and over again, well again. If you had results like
Speaker 3: this and you were the chief financial officer, you'd be
Speaker 3: very close to losing your job. If you've got the
Speaker 3: same results and your chief executive officer, you would be
Speaker 3: very close to losing your job. If this was a
Speaker 3: listed company, that keeps performing as poorly at share price
Speaker 3: would be through the floor. Yet nothing changes. Not one
Speaker 3: person will lose their job as a result of this performance.
Speaker 3: And we know that there are plenty of examples of
Speaker 3: kids who are told not even to turn up for
Speaker 3: these tests because they too would further pull down the numbers.
Speaker 3: No one is served by that sort of blindness. Nobody
Speaker 3: is served by that sort of ignorance. And while I
Speaker 3: say thank you to the Education Minister for pointing out
Speaker 3: the gravity of the situation, whatever credit he had with
Speaker 3: me immediately flushed down the toot same answer in Parliament today.
Speaker 3: Rather than talking about everyone pulling together and getting our
Speaker 3: best minds left, right and center from here and overseas
Speaker 3: to save a generation of Australians, he made a crass,
Speaker 3: piss week political point.
Speaker 5: And that's what the fifteen percent pay rise that we
Speaker 5: announced for Earlierede Cats is all about.
Speaker 6: Opposed by the Liberal Party and opposed by that guy
Speaker 6: in the Senate what's his name again, Jared Reddick, who
Speaker 6: said that paying early educators more.
Speaker 4: Was going to destroy the family unit.
Speaker 5: This is the bloke that the Opposition leader endorsed and said,
Speaker 5: quote unquote was a great defender of liberal values. Mister speaker,
Speaker 5: if they're liberal values, then God help us.
Speaker 2: Shame on you, minister, truly, shame on you. Look, things
Speaker 2: are really terrible.
Speaker 3: There's a huge number of kids that are falling behind,
Speaker 3: and the kids who fall behind, they don't make it up.
Speaker 2: But back to the politics. This report should have the
Speaker 2: same media impact.
Speaker 3: As a closing the gap style failure because it is
Speaker 3: an indication about what is not working. Sadly, there's more
Speaker 3: evidence about how the kids aren't right. I'm sorry it
Speaker 3: ain't a rock and roll starts at tonight's show. But
Speaker 3: tonight we're talking the real deal here, the real deal tonight.
Speaker 3: Professor Patrick mcgurry is a brilliant Australian. Don't agree with
Speaker 3: everything he's ever said in his life, as I'm sure
Speaker 3: he would never agree with most of what I say,
Speaker 3: but he's a brilliant Australian.
Speaker 2: He and again.
Speaker 3: Made of Mind Professor Ian Hickey are two people that
Speaker 3: have always fought for better mental health systems. He of course,
Speaker 3: was the Australian of the Year, that being Patrick in
Speaker 3: twenty ten. Today he released a report that was about
Speaker 3: the mental health failures of this country and particularly yet again,
Speaker 3: how we are failing a generation of kids. Now, if
Speaker 3: you're somebody who just thinks all they need is in
Speaker 3: a tablespoon of cement and hardened up and all they
Speaker 3: need is a swift kick in the buttet, sorry, that
Speaker 3: ain't the real world. The real world here is that
Speaker 3: the kids are in trouble now. Yes they are in
Speaker 3: trouble because they're being told the planet's ending. Yes they're
Speaker 3: in trouble because they're being told it's on stolen lamb.
Speaker 3: But there is clearly something deeper. The incidents of mentally
Speaker 3: ill of the mental ill health in young people in
Speaker 3: Australia has risen by fifty percent in the past fifteen years.
Speaker 3: Oh that's because they're over diagnosing port. I know, all
Speaker 3: the little off ramps that people say to not have
Speaker 3: a real chat about this, I'm not going to take them. Also,
Speaker 3: there has been a further rising and a steep rising
Speaker 3: since the COVID nineteen pandemic, which is why I raged
Speaker 3: the way that I did about schools being closed.
Speaker 2: And all of the people who got screwed over.
Speaker 3: But no, people like Daniel Andrews, they get a little
Speaker 3: gold medal. They have ruined a generation of kids, kids
Speaker 3: who will become adults, who will become parents, and who
Speaker 3: knows what happens after that.
Speaker 2: Of course, with what is passed.
Speaker 3: Down teenage girls, fifty percent of women age between sixteen
Speaker 3: and twenty four experience having a mental health disorder.
Speaker 2: Oh that's because of social media.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, all of these things they make it worse.
Speaker 3: All of these things make it worse. But there's stuff
Speaker 3: that's chemically going on.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: Again, I don't say this as some sort of wellness
Speaker 3: preacher or blogger or someone who's suggesting that every kid
Speaker 3: needs riddle.
Speaker 2: And the reality is that mental health.
Speaker 3: There are things that are going on inside people and
Speaker 3: when their brain is building, when there are difficulties or
Speaker 3: deficiencies or things aren't connecting properly. Again, just go for
Speaker 3: a walk outside. It ain't going to fix it. We
Speaker 3: continue here, Patrick mcgurry his quotes. The conclusion is that
Speaker 3: society is in trouble in terms of its ability to
Speaker 3: safeguard the mental health of young people as they make
Speaker 3: the transition from childhood to adulthood. Yeah, this is depressing.
Speaker 3: It's not as much fun as it is to watch
Speaker 3: the block. I'm sorry for that tonight, but rather than
Speaker 3: spoon feed a whole bunch of stuff that will make
Speaker 3: you feel nice and warm on the end. Inside there
Speaker 3: is tough chats that have to be had sometimes, and
Speaker 3: the tough chat tonight he's something's wrong with our kids.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the answer is. Because I'm a
Speaker 3: TV host. All I can ever do is try to
Speaker 3: point us in the direction of what the problems are
Speaker 3: and really pay attention with the people who are experts
Speaker 3: in this stuff, not the people who turn around and
Speaker 3: say that we should wear masks outside.
Speaker 2: Not the experts.
Speaker 3: And I'm not talking about all those people again, I
Speaker 3: know all the off ramps that people throw to make
Speaker 3: sure we don't have the conversation, that.
Speaker 2: We don't have the chat.
Speaker 3: And you will feel a little bit helpless thinking about this,
Speaker 3: because again, what can we do well? Again, let's get
Speaker 3: into a little more from this report, A little more
Speaker 3: from Professor Patrick mcgury, the Australian of the Year in
Speaker 3: twenty ten. He talks about how there is a huge
Speaker 3: gap between the number of people who have issues to
Speaker 3: do with mental health and the amount of money that
Speaker 3: there is to actually deal with mental health. He puts
Speaker 3: some numbers on this that are going to frighten you.
Speaker 3: He refers to it to the form of discrimination in
Speaker 3: a funding sense against against the middle ell. It means
Speaker 3: only fifty percent of people with mental illness get access
Speaker 3: to treatment. Repeat, fifty percent of people with mental illness
Speaker 3: get access to treatment. Just fifteen percent of that treatment
Speaker 3: is an acceptable quality. So think of those numbers. Fifteen
Speaker 3: percent of fifty percent is the right amount of treatment
Speaker 3: that's taking place. Yet, we have so many people with
Speaker 3: so many problems that we all know this. We see
Speaker 3: it every day, We live it in our own lives,
Speaker 3: We talk about it with our friends and our families,
Speaker 3: or sometimes we keep it so deep inside.
Speaker 2: One last one from you.
Speaker 3: This is all under the radar, and under the radar,
Speaker 3: the public is simmering about this issue. If you talk
Speaker 3: to any family and anyone that's trying to access mental
Speaker 3: health care, they have terrible difficulties. We want to see
Speaker 3: this become a number one health priority. Mental health has
Speaker 3: always been a poor cousin. This crisis is not going
Speaker 3: to be reversed overnight. It is going to take a
Speaker 3: political consensus to do so. And while we're dealing with
Speaker 3: the rising tide, we've got to actually help the casualties,
Speaker 3: which are two out of five young people. The kids
Speaker 3: aren't all right, and I don't know what the reason is.
Speaker 3: And yet there's all those other things that I said
Speaker 3: are all the off ramps so that we don't talk
Speaker 3: about this yere but clearly one of the big things
Speaker 3: we have to do is start to throw money at
Speaker 3: treatment in the way that we would like cancer.
Speaker 2: That's how serious this is.
Speaker 3: We need to make sure that in the same way
Speaker 3: you have the capacity to go to a GP, you
Speaker 3: should be able to get access to some sort of
Speaker 3: assistance in all of the very complicated ways when it
Speaker 3: comes to mental health. And I'm talking about the young,
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the old. I'm talking about people who
Speaker 3: think they're at the top of their game. I'm talking
Speaker 3: about the manic depressives, I'm talking about the depressives, I'm
Speaker 3: talking about the anxious.
Speaker 2: All of this.
Speaker 3: Because either we have something going on inside of us
Speaker 3: that has been diagnosed or hasn't been diagnosed, but there's
Speaker 3: a very significant number of people who have been diagnosed,
Speaker 3: and those people need to make sure that they have
Speaker 3: maximum treatment. One of the earliest things that the Abenezy
Speaker 3: government did that I will never forgive them for was
Speaker 3: they reduced the number of free telehealth sessions that you
Speaker 3: could have with mental health professionals. That needed to be reversed.
Speaker 3: It was reversed in some regional areas, but it should
Speaker 3: be reversed in every area in the country. The amount
Speaker 3: of money that goes to things like crisis hotlines needs
Speaker 3: to be trebled. The amount of money that goes to
Speaker 3: serious healthcare professionals who can take care of people, all
Speaker 3: the way from pastoral care to professors. All of it
Speaker 3: needs more money, more support. This is not because I'm
Speaker 3: a bleeding heart, but it's because, like you, this is
Speaker 3: all that life's about. It is about having a safe
Speaker 3: country and having a certain set of values, but it's
Speaker 3: also about making sure that people have the strength to
Speaker 3: get through the day. We are being told today that
Speaker 3: our kids are being left behind at school. We are
Speaker 3: being told today that our kids are being left behind
Speaker 3: when it comes to their mental health. I hope someone listens.
Speaker 3: I hope that the same Prime Minister who made that
Speaker 3: despicable decision about telehealth reverses it because there's money out there.
Speaker 3: There's money out there every single day. When it comes
Speaker 3: to this Prime Minister, it will be harder for him
Speaker 3: to deal with this than just hanging out with Olympians
Speaker 3: like he did today. It will be harder for him
Speaker 3: to deal with than just pandering and saying that AFL
Speaker 3: should become an Olympic sport. It will be harder than
Speaker 3: trying to convince the country of your position when it
Speaker 3: comes to a referendum. But more importantly, it'll need more
Speaker 3: than the half a billion dollars that was spent on it.
Speaker 3: And again the Prime Minister is planning to spend four
Speaker 3: hundred and something million dollars on not one, but two
Speaker 3: private jets ordered by the previous government but not canceled
Speaker 3: by this government. I just came up with a billion
Speaker 3: dollars for your Prime Minister, and I just pointed in
Speaker 3: the direction of how you should spend it.
Speaker 2: As for the actual story.
Speaker 3: That apparently the media was focused on today, this was
Speaker 3: the beginning of the end of the earth, you know.
Speaker 2: Peter Dutton.
Speaker 3: Peter Dutton has been labeled heartless for saying Australia should
Speaker 3: stop taking refugees from Gaza.
Speaker 2: Peter Dutton is.
Speaker 4: Being called heartless and racist after the Opposition leader said
Speaker 4: people fleeing war torn Gaza should not be granted visas
Speaker 4: to Australia.
Speaker 3: Peter Dutton says they pose a national security risk.
Speaker 1: The comments of anger Muslim leaders.
Speaker 2: So what did he actually say here? It is unedited.
Speaker 7: If people are coming in from that war zone and
Speaker 7: we're uncertain about identity, all their allegiances, that Harmas's enlisted
Speaker 7: terrorist organization. They've just committed an atrocity against the Jewish people,
Speaker 7: the biggest attack on people of Jewish faith since a Holocaust,
Speaker 7: and that the government wouldn't be conducting Czechs. I don't
Speaker 7: think people should be coming in from that war zone
Speaker 7: at all.
Speaker 3: About two thirds of that's right, the last third is wrong.
Speaker 3: Here's the reality. In the same way that the people
Speaker 3: of China are not the Chinese Communist Party, the people
Speaker 3: of Russia are not Vladimir Putin, the people of Gaza
Speaker 3: are not Hamas.
Speaker 2: That's the reality.
Speaker 3: Australia is a place that has a responsibility to yes,
Speaker 3: have a lifeboat, a lifeboat that cannot take everyone who
Speaker 3: needs to get into that lifeboat. And we have certain
Speaker 3: number of seats, and if people from Gaza pass the test,
Speaker 3: then yes they.
Speaker 2: Should come to the country.
Speaker 3: But the tests, of course they do need to be rigorous.
Speaker 3: They do need to be higher than what has been
Speaker 3: said in the past. But we are in a place
Speaker 3: right now where I don't know why it has to
Speaker 3: be said, but it has to be said. The idea
Speaker 3: that all Palestinians are us is not true. By saying that,
Speaker 3: I am not pretending that the horrible things that a
Speaker 3: mass has done did not happen or are not terrible.
Speaker 3: I am not trying to solve a problem on the
Speaker 3: other side of the world that.
Speaker 2: I can't solve.
Speaker 3: But I am saying that Australia has a lifeboat and
Speaker 3: we try to take people from all parts of the world,
Speaker 3: including places like Gasa. Should we take everyone?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Should we take everyone yesterday?
Speaker 8: Know?
Speaker 2: Should we do better? Tests? Of course, so.
Speaker 3: As to say I agree with two thirds of it,
Speaker 3: I of course disagree with where inevitably will go in
Speaker 3: the next few days.
Speaker 2: Peter dun't. Peter dun't.
Speaker 3: Peter dunt and Peter Dunn and Peter dunn't. But I
Speaker 3: just don't know why I had to say it, But.
Speaker 2: It is the truth.
Speaker 3: Meantime, when it comes to immigration more broadly, not about refugees. Remember,
Speaker 3: at the end of last year we of course, had
Speaker 3: clueless Claire O'Neil and the Prime Minister telling us, oh,
Speaker 3: they're definitely going to cut the amount of immigration coming
Speaker 3: into the country. Remember this was December and Anthony Abernezi
Speaker 3: announces plans to reduce immigration levels following the COVID influx. Now,
Speaker 3: as you know, the issue that Australians have with immigration
Speaker 3: is not from where people come.
Speaker 2: It's not from what they believe.
Speaker 3: The reality is that people can come from all parts
Speaker 3: of the world as long as, of course they are
Speaker 3: willing to live to the standards of life here in Australia.
Speaker 3: We should have processes that make sure that you can
Speaker 3: weed out as much of that as possible. That this
Speaker 3: flag means sorry, this flag means renewal, unity, all the
Speaker 3: rest of it.
Speaker 2: Right, So we also know that.
Speaker 3: On this program when we talk about immigration, we talk
Speaker 3: about literally a scenario where if you just keep adding.
Speaker 2: More people to the queue, well things get harder.
Speaker 3: Every state in the country right now has a problem
Speaker 3: where if you call an ambulance, it may or may
Speaker 3: not turn up because the ambulance may or may not
Speaker 3: be at a hospital with a person sitting in the
Speaker 3: back of it, because they may or may not be
Speaker 3: able to get into a hospital. You add more people,
Speaker 3: that gets worse. There are people who are currently homeless.
Speaker 3: In fact, the most number of homeless that Australia has
Speaker 3: ever had according to the Bureau Statistics in the last census.
Speaker 3: So when a rental property comes up, guess what if
Speaker 3: you keep adding more people to it and they need
Speaker 3: somewhere to stay, the rental line gets longer. If the
Speaker 3: number of properties gets smaller because we're not building enough
Speaker 3: houses to keep up with the demand currently there is,
Speaker 3: then we get into a world of pain. And the
Speaker 3: IPA actually put a number on this that despite all
Speaker 3: of the conversation, all we're coming back and all the
Speaker 3: rest of it, if you look government by government sort
Speaker 3: of election to election, election to election, election to election,
Speaker 3: this government right now, according to the IPA, more people
Speaker 3: than ever before. In the first term of the Hawk
Speaker 3: government it was less than two hundred thousand. First term
Speaker 3: of the Well first and only term of the Kending
Speaker 3: government two hundred thousand, Hawk and keyting from ninety to
Speaker 3: ninety three again two hundred thousand, and then we start
Speaker 3: get to the second third term of John Howard two
Speaker 3: thousand and one. That's we sort of start pushing towards
Speaker 3: four hundred thousand. From two thousand and four to two
Speaker 3: thousand and seven, the Howard government at about six hundred thousand,
Speaker 3: the Morrison and Turnbull era of twenty sixteen to two
Speaker 3: thousand and nineteen, you're starting to push to eight hundred thousand.
Speaker 3: Alberzi pushing up at one point two million. We are nowhere.
Speaker 2: Near the next election according to the Prime Minister.
Speaker 3: As the Daily may World wrote it today, the Prime
Speaker 3: Minister Anthony Aberanzi is allowed to record one point one
Speaker 3: five million migrants into the country since he came to power.
Speaker 3: Net migration taken from July twenty three May twenty four
Speaker 3: was four hundred and forty five thousand, which of course
Speaker 3: is higher than the number that was in the budget.
Speaker 3: The budget that of course was prepared after they had
Speaker 3: made the announcement that they were going to cut So
Speaker 3: guess what labour life And just twenty seven months, mister
Speaker 3: Abenezi has brought more migrants to the country the entire
Speaker 3: hawk Keating years. Albanese's governments also a whopping sixty two
Speaker 3: percent more migrants than the rud Gillard term. But nothing
Speaker 3: to see here. You're racist if you mention any of it. Okay,
Speaker 3: A couple of quick things worth mentioning. As a bloke
Speaker 3: in Melbourne, he's been a lollipop man for a long time.
Speaker 3: He's got awards for it and he deserves plenty of
Speaker 3: high fives. One of the things this bloke does is
Speaker 3: the lollipop man, is that he gives high five to
Speaker 3: the kids that the crossing the street. Why because it's nice.
Speaker 3: Some lunatic, sorry I shouldn't say. Some person I strongly
Speaker 3: disagree with, decided to complain. The story made it to
Speaker 3: the papers today. A single complaint from a parent in
Speaker 3: Melbourne's Outer East prompted the Yarrow Region As Council to
Speaker 3: issue a beloved children's crossing supervisor with a warning about
Speaker 3: unnecessary physical contact with children and young people. In a
Speaker 3: statement to the Age, a Yarrow Range As Council spokesperson
Speaker 3: confirmed that the supervisor had been reminded of his child
Speaker 3: safety obligations. Honestly, okay, if you don't want your kid
Speaker 3: to high five to the lollipop man, your that's what
Speaker 3: you say to your kid. And maybe if you want
Speaker 3: to have a little chat and that look just my
Speaker 3: kids not comfortable it or you fine, everyone else can
Speaker 3: high five, and he can high five these people? Seriously,
Speaker 3: how they come up each and every day with this
Speaker 3: sort of new ways to.
Speaker 2: Make us cranky?
Speaker 3: Anyway, Well, under all the men, women, boys, girls, whatever,
Speaker 3: the panoply of people around the country, who of course
Speaker 3: are the lollipop men and women of the country, Well,
Speaker 3: do under all of you in.
Speaker 2: High five away.
Speaker 3: Let's get to the United States here, where, of course,
Speaker 3: the Trump Harris election is shaping up as well, just
Speaker 3: as close as you thought it was going to be,
Speaker 3: rather than the barnstorming a victory that most likely Trump
Speaker 3: was going to have over Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's his name.
Speaker 3: Now, you may remember that one of the one of
Speaker 3: the policies that Donald Trump had for a very long
Speaker 3: period of time during this election was very successful in
Speaker 3: places like Nevada.
Speaker 2: It was no tax on.
Speaker 9: Tips, massive tax cuts for workers that include something else
Speaker 9: that stood out to be very popular.
Speaker 2: Actually here, it's.
Speaker 9: Very popular in this building and all those hotels that
Speaker 9: I saw that are so nice. I'm staying in a
Speaker 9: nice one. It's called no tax on tips, No tax on.
Speaker 3: Now the political calculus was again in places where there
Speaker 3: are lots of people who work in the service industry,
Speaker 3: and anyone who's gone to America knows they get paid
Speaker 3: this much by the place they're working for, and the
Speaker 3: rest of their money they make in tips, which is
Speaker 3: why the service in America is so amazing. Las Vegas
Speaker 3: would be one of those cities. Las Vegas, of course,
Speaker 3: is in the state of Nevada. Donald Trump has been
Speaker 3: able to in the poll's turn it from a regular
Speaker 3: blue state to a red state because of that policy. So, surprise, surprise,
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris has promised exactly the same thing.
Speaker 10: We will continue our fight.
Speaker 11: For working families of America, including to raise the minimum wage.
Speaker 7: And eliminate taxes on tips for service and hospitality worker.
Speaker 3: But the reason I'm talking to you tonight about it
Speaker 3: is because same policy, two different candidates, one news organization,
Speaker 3: two very different stories. This has been online for a
Speaker 3: couple of days, and thank you to the mates who
Speaker 3: pointed it out to me. Always support how into the
Speaker 3: fight that you are and fight, fight, fight. CBS News
Speaker 3: is the one that we are talking about. When Donald
Speaker 3: Trump made the announcement, former President Donald Trump's vow to
Speaker 3: stop taxing tips would cost the federal governm two hundred
Speaker 3: fifty billion dollars over ten news bad, terrible, evil.
Speaker 2: Or all bankrupt everything. When you actually click onto the link,
Speaker 2: read the story.
Speaker 3: Former President Donald Trump's vow to stop taxing tips would
Speaker 3: cost the federal government two hundred and fifty b four
Speaker 3: billion dollars over ten years. The proposal, made by Trump
Speaker 3: for the first time just over a week ago in Nevada,
Speaker 3: would increase the nation's read in one hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: billion to two hundred and fifty billion, and possibly much
Speaker 3: more if it was to cause a shift in the
Speaker 3: overall compensation of way. So this was a bad, terrible,
Speaker 3: economically irresponsible policy. I think you know what the punchline is,
Speaker 3: CBS News, different candidate, same policy. Vice President Kamala Harris
Speaker 3: is rolling out new policy position, saying she'll fight to
Speaker 3: end taxes on tips for service and hospitality workers.
Speaker 2: Click the link, read the story. Read slightly different, doesn't it.
Speaker 3: On Monday, the White House press spokesperson said President Biden
Speaker 3: supports the proposal to eliminate federal taxes on tips. The
Speaker 3: Culen re Union, which represents sixty thousand hospitality workers in Nevada,
Speaker 3: praised Harris for the policy. The Union, said Vice President
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris acknowledged the hard working men and women of
Speaker 3: the hospitality industry and committed tonight in Las Vegas to
Speaker 3: raise the minimum wage across the country and fight to
Speaker 3: end taxes on tips as the next president of the
Speaker 3: United States. So when it's Trump, it's bad for the country.
Speaker 3: When it's Harris, it's amazing. Same policy. Don't believe your
Speaker 3: eyes when these are people who lie to you over
Speaker 3: and over and over again, ignore and hang here for
Speaker 3: the truth. We'd break back with more, pleaded to talk
Speaker 3: about Bromin, Bishop Stephen Conroy and looking forward to Meghan
Speaker 3: Kelly in a few minutes time.
Speaker 2: We're having a big one tonight. Thanks for watching. Thank
Speaker 2: you very much for watching.
Speaker 3: Also, a couple of people send me emails. I was
Speaker 3: obviously personalizing the education story because all my little girls.
Speaker 2: Write in it right now. Their naplane was fine. Thank
Speaker 2: you for a couple of people who decided to reach
Speaker 2: out about that.
Speaker 3: They're doing great, they're sailing, they're amazing. Their teachers are
Speaker 3: awesome too.
Speaker 2: But thank you.
Speaker 3: I apologize for any confusion, especially to my little girls
Speaker 3: who will be the ones kicking dad right in the
Speaker 3: place and Bishop is here in the man cave.
Speaker 2: Stephen Conroy is here to help.
Speaker 3: Of course, always from Melbourne, they'll agree on everything. So
Speaker 3: let's get to what was discussed today. We all heard
Speaker 3: the grab and all back and forth about whether we
Speaker 3: should be taking more less none refugees from Palestine from
Speaker 3: the Gaza strip. There are two million people that are there. Stephen, again,
Speaker 3: I mentioned that I agreed with sort of two thirds
Speaker 3: of what Peter Dunton had said, where you do need
Speaker 3: to have stringent things, you do need to have all
Speaker 3: of these things in place, and if that means it's
Speaker 3: not a quick extradition, then sadly that is the situation.
Speaker 2: But I'm not for the hard No, what do you think.
Speaker 12: I think, Paul, I actually agree with you. I think
Speaker 12: the coalition we're putting labor in a very difficult place
Speaker 12: with the position that they were saying and wanting security
Speaker 12: checks following the process, making sure everybody. And Dave Sharma
Speaker 12: was on Shari's show and he talked about how they
Speaker 12: were criticized for taking too long over Siria, etc. So
Speaker 12: I think the Coalition were in a good but it
Speaker 12: seems like just this last little bit is a little
Speaker 12: bit of overreach. And I think it's been described by
Speaker 12: some in the coalition players behind the scenes as it
Speaker 12: was a captain's pick. He sort of he went off
Speaker 12: pieced a little bit, and I think it is just
Speaker 12: a genuine flight average. I think they had labor well placed.
Speaker 12: You just got to point to what happened with the
Speaker 12: decision around Direction ninety nine when it came to the
Speaker 12: refugees after the High Court decision, and you know, one
Speaker 12: or two of them began to re offend, and Andrew
Speaker 12: Giles was under the government were under enormous pressure. Tony
Speaker 12: Burke's placing himself in the situation where he needs to
Speaker 12: He needs to make sure not one of these people
Speaker 12: express a view or behaved in a way that could
Speaker 12: be seen to be pro hamas organization.
Speaker 13: You were starting to make sense until you brought Giles
Speaker 13: into it.
Speaker 2: Then you ruined your argument.
Speaker 13: Peter Dutton today.
Speaker 2: I was not prudent.
Speaker 12: I don't think as usual. I don't think you listen,
Speaker 12: Oh yes I did.
Speaker 13: I didn't like what I heard.
Speaker 2: So do you think that Dunton landed in the right
Speaker 2: place to day?
Speaker 13: I think when he said it was not prudent to
Speaker 13: bring people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's two versions of this comment today.
Speaker 13: Striking the right notes good point because the words of
Speaker 13: Mike Burgers worried me. I really was worried.
Speaker 2: That was ludicrous what he said.
Speaker 13: It made no sense to me.
Speaker 3: Which again was basically, you could support, but you can
Speaker 3: still come in. No but no support, then you can
Speaker 3: come in.
Speaker 13: But I mean, asio has to be above the frack,
Speaker 13: above the fray, and his words alarmed me. And I'm
Speaker 13: sure that that's part of why there was that reaction
Speaker 13: from Peter Dutton, and rightfully so, I think the comeback
Speaker 13: from the government or we just takes advice, it didn't
Speaker 13: ring true simply because of that difficulty.
Speaker 3: Well, and as Cherry pointed out before, the usual process
Speaker 3: takes clearly within an hour, multiple weeks, multiple months.
Speaker 13: There was more to it than that Bird just said,
Speaker 13: oh we did check some oh, but some the applications
Speaker 13: didn't get it in time, so we couldn't do I'm sorry,
Speaker 13: that's not good enough. So I think Peter was quite
Speaker 13: right in drawing attention to that. And if anyone is
Speaker 13: to come in, they must be thoroughly scrutinized, absolutely thoroughly scrutinized.
Speaker 13: And if that can't be done, then we can't have them.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing, Stephen, where again to get how
Speaker 3: politics works, which is one quote stands forever one doesn't.
Speaker 3: This government, of course, has done plenty and I have
Speaker 3: got the examples, and they will be all ready to
Speaker 3: roll tomorrow if they want to turn around and say
Speaker 3: what And I don't alway said that they too have
Speaker 3: rolled back things. It is what politicians do. And I
Speaker 3: think that every politician has the right to say, look,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe a little too far, a little too
Speaker 3: the other way, but we know what's going to happen here,
Speaker 3: which is that again question time tomorrow is now going
Speaker 3: to be sort of great outrage from the left and
Speaker 3: there's going to be a great double down from the right.
Speaker 3: I noticed all of the people in the press Scalia
Speaker 3: will of course wave their fingers all the rest of it.
Speaker 3: But if we are going to get lost on the
Speaker 3: back third of the comment, then we are actually missing
Speaker 3: the issue. The actual issue is about we have a
Speaker 3: humanitarian policy, we have a refugee policy. Let's make sure
Speaker 3: that when it is applied to anyone from anywhere, that
Speaker 3: the standard is.
Speaker 2: As high as possible.
Speaker 3: And if we're arguing anything other than that, then I
Speaker 3: think that's political bad actors.
Speaker 13: There's another point in there too, when they were talking
Speaker 13: about Afghanistan, we had troops on the ground. Yeah, that
Speaker 13: makes a difference to the sort of policies you put
Speaker 13: in place, and I think that point has to be
Speaker 13: made strongly as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but again we'll see where it goes in the
Speaker 3: next of a while. Let's talk to some other things,
Speaker 3: because again it's been sort of tough rowing with some
Speaker 3: of the opinion this evening.
Speaker 2: But I was in one of those modes.
Speaker 3: You know, you get a truth dump on this show
Speaker 3: each and every night, and particular ones every now and then.
Speaker 3: Now let's talk about hex because a really interesting idea
Speaker 3: which is being served up by Lefty will never happen,
Speaker 3: but still at least it's someone talking about a solution
Speaker 3: to people being able to buy.
Speaker 2: A house, which is the suggestion that your hex.
Speaker 3: Deck could be deferred when you're trying to get alone
Speaker 3: in order to get a better chance at alone for
Speaker 3: your first property. A very good friend of mine looked
Speaker 3: me in the eyebromwin and said, like I have traditionally
Speaker 3: voted this way. The person who actually comes up with
Speaker 3: the idea of how my kids can buy a house
Speaker 3: is the one I'm going to vote for. I don't
Speaker 3: know if this is the idea or this is the
Speaker 3: silver bullet, or this is the solution.
Speaker 2: But what do you think of the idea?
Speaker 13: Well, there's no doubt about it that hexs deck does
Speaker 13: create a difficulty with banks with lending policies. And I
Speaker 13: think the comment that I read today that said only
Speaker 13: which people can get alone does tell me there's something
Speaker 13: fundamentally wrong with the way the test is. At the
Speaker 13: moment when interest roates were very low and there was
Speaker 13: a three percent built in to make sure he could
Speaker 13: repay that, that sort of brought it up to the
Speaker 13: rate that people thought was okay. But there on top
Speaker 13: of what's happening now makes it almost impossible.
Speaker 2: Steven, let's talk about our old mate, Matt Kean.
Speaker 3: So he of course has been given a position effectively
Speaker 3: to help the federal government set it's climate targets, and
Speaker 3: then he's also taken another job in a finance firm
Speaker 3: that of course would be heavily involved in many of
Speaker 3: the businesses that would be at the very least very
Speaker 3: interested in what some of those targets may will be
Speaker 3: to me, you can't be what is it a poacher
Speaker 3: and gamekeeper?
Speaker 2: He thinks he can. What do you think.
Speaker 12: I think he's going to spend a lot of time
Speaker 12: sitting outside the room when it comes to decisions.
Speaker 2: Which I share.
Speaker 12: Yeah, about a lot of time sitting out in the
Speaker 12: coffee room. I think this will be a challenging one
Speaker 12: for him to sustain. I think I've got no issue
Speaker 12: with either of the two positions. I think combining the
Speaker 12: two makes it a challenge to be in the statutory
Speaker 12: role that he has, and I think he needs to
Speaker 12: have a think about which direction he wants to go.
Speaker 2: It is very challenging to mix.
Speaker 12: The public and private sector where they overlap so much.
Speaker 12: But I know Brommin's a fan of Matt Keane. She's
Speaker 12: probably voted for him once in a ballot. But I'm
Speaker 12: interesting what Bromin thinks.
Speaker 2: But what do you think?
Speaker 12: You're no fan of Malcolm Turnbop, but you're still voting
Speaker 12: for him, So that doesn't mean you didn't vote.
Speaker 13: The assumption you're making, Steven, you.
Speaker 1: Make it up all the time.
Speaker 13: Yeah, what do you I think The bottom line is
Speaker 13: this that we talk a lot in politics about the
Speaker 13: pub test, don't we it doesn't pass.
Speaker 2: Oh no.
Speaker 13: And if you look more deeply into some of the
Speaker 13: articles that have been written, his job is to oversee
Speaker 13: how the the credit system works for big firms to
Speaker 13: buy and sell and make money. The problem with this
Speaker 13: whole system is that the big investors in Walami, which
Speaker 13: is the company concerned, are there to make money, as
Speaker 13: they should be, and Matt Kean is advising them on
Speaker 13: how to help them do that. At the same time,
Speaker 13: it's in his purview to be making decisions on just
Speaker 13: what's allowed.
Speaker 2: But again, we're all supposed to make money, you know.
Speaker 13: And to say that you have the Chinese War, you
Speaker 13: can recuse yourself every out in the tea room. As
Speaker 13: Stephen just said, it just doesn't wash.
Speaker 2: It just doesn't wash. I got to go because Meg
Speaker 2: and Kelly standing by.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, bro when thank you Steven always
Speaker 3: here to help catch a scooter while you can, mate.
Speaker 2: I'm sad they're gone, all right. Megan Kelly's next.
Speaker 3: Our favorite person to talk to you in the world
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Speaker 3: parting of the ways for Kamala Harris is none other
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Speaker 2: Megan, Hello, my.
Speaker 10: Friend, it's great to see you.
Speaker 1: Paul.
Speaker 2: Now, I like you.
Speaker 3: I am so frustrated and angry at watching the people
Speaker 3: who are supposed to be the representatives of the citizens
Speaker 3: in the system i e. The media, and they are
Speaker 3: just carrying Kamala Harris's water. They are parting the Red
Speaker 3: Sea for her, they are redirecting rivers for her, and
Speaker 3: it exposes everything that's wrong about them, and we could
Speaker 3: talk about that for an hour.
Speaker 2: But it's working.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the problem. I mean, it's only August. Trump's
Speaker 8: still got time, but we may be witnessing the collapse
Speaker 8: of this election for him.
Speaker 1: And it is largely media driven.
Speaker 8: It's an AstroTurf personality that they have created in Kamala Harris,
Speaker 8: and the voters who are going about living their own lives,
Speaker 8: not worrying about media coverage and bias are buying it.
Speaker 8: They're like, oh, we didn't really like Trump and we
Speaker 8: didn't like Biden and we've been given a new third option,
Speaker 8: and she seems kind of nice.
Speaker 1: So yeah, let's go for that.
Speaker 8: We don't really blame her for the economy or the border,
Speaker 8: like vice president, what do they do.
Speaker 1: It's ceremonial.
Speaker 10: She seems nice enough and she's not two hundred, so
Speaker 10: we'll vote for her.
Speaker 8: That's what's happening in any controversy that comes up around
Speaker 8: her her background.
Speaker 10: Tim Waltz, his background gets a.
Speaker 8: Ignored or b completely excused, and we all get gas
Speaker 8: lit on it. And look, this is not the first
Speaker 8: election cycle in which they've done this, but this the
Speaker 8: depth of the cynicism has surprised even me. I actually
Speaker 8: did not expect them to be this bad. I've never
Speaker 8: seen it this bad. And now the polls are dramatically
Speaker 8: shifting away from Trump.
Speaker 3: But we have to take a second to say, something's
Speaker 3: really broken that somebody is able to seemingly get away
Speaker 3: with not being held to account for anything in their past.
Speaker 8: You know, I think about it a lot because I
Speaker 8: have to distinguish between me the individual and me the journalist.
Speaker 8: As a journalist and a commentator, it's not my job
Speaker 8: to shift an election or to try to swing an election.
Speaker 1: One way or another. But as a.
Speaker 8: Human it's incredibly frustrating to watch the media gang up
Speaker 8: on one side, run cover for the other, and then
Speaker 8: still cloak themselves in nobility. You know, we're we're the gatekeeper,
Speaker 8: We're the fact checkers. We are the ones who will
Speaker 8: fight misinformation while they mislead my fellow Americans every day.
Speaker 8: So I get incredibly angry that the side I think
Speaker 8: is reasonable and will restore order here in the United
Speaker 8: States is so far from getting a fair shake, that
Speaker 8: they're getting completely twisted and turned and lambasted by this media,
Speaker 8: these media enablers every day, which is not their job.
Speaker 8: And then I have to remind myself that my job
Speaker 8: as a member of the media is not to try
Speaker 8: to persuade people to go the other way. It's just
Speaker 8: to stay in the factual realm and tell the stories
Speaker 8: that others won't tell, and stay factual, notwithstanding the enormous
Speaker 8: gas lighting we're getting and blowback.
Speaker 1: You know how it is always.
Speaker 8: Before the election as a member of the media, if
Speaker 8: you don't go along with it the party line, they
Speaker 8: start attacking you too.
Speaker 10: But it's all on steroids this year. It's on steroids.
Speaker 10: This year because they they're back from the dead, bidens out.
Speaker 1: Kama's in. There's enthusiasm for her, and they.
Speaker 8: Just know if they could just check their ethics for
Speaker 8: another two and a half months, they could have this.
Speaker 1: They can have what they want.
Speaker 8: They could have all of their leftist policies, they could
Speaker 8: have abortion on demand, they could have a black woman
Speaker 8: in the office, take down Trump. It's every leftist fantasy.
Speaker 10: It's like, if I just check.
Speaker 8: My ethics for a few more months, I have what
Speaker 8: I want. And to me, it's just it makes me
Speaker 8: boil inside, right, it makes me boil. Well, it's not
Speaker 8: the first time it's happened, you know, it's Trump got
Speaker 8: it so bad in sixteen. I keep reminding myself it's
Speaker 8: not insurmountable. He could still overcome this.
Speaker 2: I know that they is.
Speaker 3: We all know that there's a huge consequence whichever way
Speaker 3: this thing goes. Right now, those of us have a
Speaker 3: certain worldview that you know, way share. Believe there's a
Speaker 3: right path and a wrong path. The consequences for going
Speaker 3: down the wrong path is colossal changes that I reversible
Speaker 3: that you know, take your pick on any type of issue. Right,
Speaker 3: He's got an advantage on social media where on all
Speaker 3: bar TikTok there are more people that are following him
Speaker 3: than her. He has the capacity to, in my view,
Speaker 3: to a rally during the day in a town hall
Speaker 3: at night which is only covered not by CNN but
Speaker 3: by locals. He's got ways to be able to go
Speaker 3: around them, but he doesn't seem to. Now, you know,
Speaker 3: do you think he's just waiting or do you think
Speaker 3: the reality is that he is eight years older than
Speaker 3: when he was hungry, and he isn't fighting the way
Speaker 3: that somebody who's got it roll on the line should
Speaker 3: be fighting.
Speaker 8: He's out there, but he doesn't have message discipline, and
Speaker 8: every opportunity he gets, whether it's the press or he
Speaker 8: held on Friday or the event with elon last night, he's.
Speaker 10: Long winded, rambling and kind of fuzzy. It's like, what
Speaker 10: is he seeing? It's taking so.
Speaker 8: Long to make a point that should take him two
Speaker 8: sentences to make, and I'm losing interest and I'm kind
Speaker 8: of bored and this isn't worth it. You know. There
Speaker 8: are more and more reports of people, even at his
Speaker 8: rallies which go on forever.
Speaker 10: Walking out, leaving early.
Speaker 8: They love Trump, They're going to vote for Trump, but
Speaker 8: they're not entertained by him in the way they used
Speaker 8: to be, and he is getting And I'm sorry this
Speaker 8: may sound cruel, but it's my observation a little more
Speaker 8: like your elderly grandparent or parent who rambles on too long,
Speaker 8: and you're kind of like.
Speaker 10: All right, wrap it up, you know, like I don't
Speaker 10: have all day to listen to this.
Speaker 8: Make a point, Start with a like a thesis, and
Speaker 8: then your little bit should have a crescendo and a
Speaker 8: decrescendo and land at some point. Instead, we're getting these
Speaker 8: long stream of consciousness things that are hard to follow
Speaker 8: and not fun to listen to, and it's it doesn't
Speaker 8: help messaging, and it doesn't help inspiration. Right like all
Speaker 8: the Harris for all that we're ripping on her four
Speaker 8: she's doing a.
Speaker 10: Good job of getting into these rallies.
Speaker 8: Sticking to the script that was written for her, saying
Speaker 8: banal but slightly inspirational things like we're not going back.
Speaker 1: When we stick together, we win. People like that. It's working.
Speaker 8: It sticks in people's heads. She's on message and Trump isn't.
Speaker 8: And you know, it's the old how do you solve
Speaker 8: a problem like Maria? You know, except in this case
Speaker 8: he's Maria.
Speaker 1: How do you solve this problem.
Speaker 8: Of a seventy eight year old, you know, businessman like
Speaker 8: Trump to get him on message. He feels like he
Speaker 8: has the right to say what he wants, and he
Speaker 8: feels like he knows better, and he's got a history
Speaker 8: that tells him he does. But what happens when that
Speaker 8: history doesn't match the present day reality of the world
Speaker 8: and of you.