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Speaker 1: Folks, fans, friends, listeners of these podcast Thanks for joining

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Speaker 1: us again on the daily one from Body and Soul

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Speaker 1: called Healthy Ish. I am your host, Felicity Hally. Do

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Speaker 1: you ever wonder what you eat in a day? Does

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Speaker 1: it really affect how you sleep at night? Well? In

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Speaker 1: one word, yes, I'm joined today by clinical nutritionist Katherine Hay,

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Speaker 1: who discusses how food choices affect sleep quality and she

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Speaker 1: shares simple diet tweaks for better rest tonight. Oh bring

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Speaker 1: it on if you like what you hear from Catherine

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Speaker 1: listening to Extra Healthy Ish our sister pod where she

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Speaker 1: talks about the impact stress has on your diet and

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Speaker 1: well how to better manage that during a very stressful week.

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Speaker 1: You can catch that one where we get your podcasts. Catherine,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us on health. Did you have a

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Speaker 1: good sleep? Perhaps I should start off with that question.

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Speaker 2: I did have a good sleep last night, which always

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Speaker 2: sets me up for a better day. Did you have

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Speaker 2: a good sleep?

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Speaker 1: A bit on and off? I think now the weather

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Speaker 1: is getting a bit hotter. I'm finding it I'm a

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Speaker 1: bit more restless throughout the night. Is that a common thing?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: The humidity the heat will drastically impact our body temperature.

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Speaker 3: We tend to wake up more throughout the night. We

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Speaker 3: definitely like a cool environment when am sleeping, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Okay, more fans or perhaps a heart higher fan talk

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Speaker 1: to us about eating and sleep. I mean, how much

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Speaker 1: or to what extent does what we eat affect how

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Speaker 3: So food has a huge impact on our sleep cycle,

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Speaker 3: and I love explaining that the more we can focus

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Speaker 3: on our whole food, so our good fats, our central

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Speaker 3: fatty acids, our proteins, our fiber is really es central

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Speaker 3: with how our blood sugar regulation is dictated for the

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Speaker 3: rest of the day, which then impacts our malatonin production,

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Speaker 3: which is our sleep hormone, and how we eventually fall

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Speaker 2: Blissful night's sleep.

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Speaker 3: So we always want to be focusing on, you know,

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Speaker 3: the foundations of food, bringing it back to those macro nutrients,

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Speaker 3: but also our key antioxidants, you know, magnesium, trippa fan,

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Speaker 3: our B group vitamins really helped.

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Speaker 2: To produce those sleep producing hormones as well.

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Speaker 3: So the more we can focus on those nutrient dense meals,

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Speaker 3: hopefully the better sleep we will have.

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Speaker 1: And on the flip side, when you have a poor

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? And you know I have I have a toddler

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Speaker 3: so sleepy. You know, sleep deprivation, yes, and you know

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Speaker 3: where we can't really avoid that sleep deprivation picture. And

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Speaker 3: you know, we go for the caffeine on an empty stomach,

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Speaker 2: Fixes to give us that quick energy.

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Speaker 3: But when we get that quick energy, it usually comes

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Speaker 3: So when we're having these quick fixed foods, yes, we

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Speaker 2: And you know, bringing it back to foods, fruit is medicine.

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Speaker 1: It's so hard though when you've had a I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think it's having a nutrient dense snack option for

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Speaker 2: Is I guess a better option to promote sleep that night.

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Speaker 1: If you have had a shocking night sleep, how can

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Speaker 1: And there are any specific foods that we should eat

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Speaker 2: So I love magnesium.

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Speaker 3: Magnesium is a wonderful mineral and the body requires magnesium

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Speaker 3: Bit more depleted in our soil. So you know, reaching

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Speaker 3: That really helps promote that malatonin production for sleep. Also,

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Speaker 2: And this is a thing you can get to trip.

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Speaker 2: So the more we have of that when we're going

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Speaker 2: So I'd be trying to limit caffeine to one.

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Speaker 3: But often, you know, if you do eat at six

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Speaker 2: So we nate like snacks.

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Speaker 3: you satiated through that overnight fast. I don't have an

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Speaker 1: Dark chocolate does that pass.

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Speaker 1: Catherine, thank you for coming on healthy.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me it's been a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Well protein once again, protein it comes up. Honestly, I

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Speaker 1: more protein and magnesium always a winner as well. Anyway,

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