WEBVTT - Climate Wars II: Judgement Day

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<v Speaker 1>From Schwartz Media. I'm Scott Mitchell. This is seven am.

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<v Speaker 1>Two years ago. On the very first day after the

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<v Speaker 1>Labor Government was sworn into office, the new Minister for

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<v Speaker 1>Climate Change and Energy, Chris Bowen, called a press conference.

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<v Speaker 1>In those very first remarks, he said the climate wars

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<v Speaker 1>were over. Some scoffed at the time there were still

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of political fights to be had over how Australia

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<v Speaker 1>would reach net zero, but there was nonetheless a belief

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<v Speaker 1>that Australia would move forward with climate policy. Well, this

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<v Speaker 1>week that changed. Today columnist for the Saturday paper Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Bonjorno on the week Peter Dutton promised to tear up

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<v Speaker 1>emission targets for twenty thirty and why the next election

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<v Speaker 1>will be a climate election after all It's Friday, June fourteen, Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>This week we saw what some people thought we might

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<v Speaker 1>never see again. Climate change could actually be the issue

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<v Speaker 1>that both major parties are putting at the center of

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<v Speaker 1>the next election. Where did this all start?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Scott, I think it all started from Peter Dutton's

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<v Speaker 2>desperation to grab attention and in taking everyone's breath away

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time. It's a crash or crash through

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<v Speaker 2>tactic and I've got to say it reminded me immediately

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<v Speaker 2>of Tony Abbott. It all began on the weekend was

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutton using an interview with The Weekend Australian to

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<v Speaker 2>say for the first time that if elected, he would

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<v Speaker 2>ditch Australia's emissions reduction target for twenty thirty something the

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<v Speaker 2>Labor government has legislated as one of its first acts

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<v Speaker 2>after coming to power. The Murdoch owned broadsheet we'd had

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt about what Dutton was up to. In its editorial,

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<v Speaker 2>the paper gave the policy It's backing under the headline

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<v Speaker 2>climate wars are Back with a nuclear twist.

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<v Speaker 3>On Opposition leader Peter Dutton has pledged to ditch Labour's

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<v Speaker 3>twenty thirty climate target in exchange for a focus on

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<v Speaker 3>nuclear power and met zero by twenty fifty if he

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<v Speaker 3>wins the next election.

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<v Speaker 2>The initial reporting gave the impression Dutton was ditching interim

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<v Speaker 2>targets and adopting quote a radically different energy policy to

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Albanisi that prioritizes more gas in the short term

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<v Speaker 2>and nuclear in the long term. But Scott, it appears

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<v Speaker 2>this toughening of Coalition climate policy. Well, it didn't go

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<v Speaker 2>to his shadow cabinet or his party room, and I

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<v Speaker 2>can tell you the announcement caught several of his backbench

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<v Speaker 2>off guard and as we got into the weak things

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<v Speaker 2>started to unravel even further.

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<v Speaker 1>And Paul, we've seen Peter Dutton speaking about it almost

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<v Speaker 1>every day this week. So why is that, Paul? Why

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<v Speaker 1>is he having to speak about it again and again.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's become more politically complicated than he probably thought,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Opposition leader has found he's had to make

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<v Speaker 2>clarification after clarification, especially on his commitment to the Paris

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<v Speaker 2>Accord and interim targets.

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<v Speaker 4>So can you just clear this up for us? Will

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<v Speaker 4>the Coalition scrap Australia's twenty thirty climate target? Well, what

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<v Speaker 4>we've done is state the obvious, David, which is the

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<v Speaker 4>twenty thirty targets not going to be met.

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<v Speaker 2>Shadow Communications Minister David Coleman, Well, he was left floundering

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<v Speaker 2>and struggling to answer questions about it when he appeared

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<v Speaker 2>on the ABC's Insiders program on Sundays. Wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's come back to the question though, will the Coalition

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<v Speaker 4>scrap the twenty thirty target? Well, we'll have more to

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<v Speaker 4>say about targets. It did before the election. But so

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<v Speaker 4>Keeter Dunny, you might have a different twenty thirty target. Well, well,

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<v Speaker 4>Peter Dutton made very clear on Saturday that that target

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<v Speaker 4>is not going to be mad.

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<v Speaker 2>The first issue was identified by Climate Change Minister Chris

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<v Speaker 2>Bowen on Saturday. He was quick to point out that

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<v Speaker 2>any reduction of target ambition would be a breach of

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<v Speaker 2>the Paris Accord, and he quoted the coalition's own Angus Taylor,

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<v Speaker 2>who made this point when he was Morrison's Energy Minister.

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<v Speaker 2>The Paris Accord's very clear.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't backslide, you can't reduce your commitments. So is

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<v Speaker 5>mister Dutton proposing to leave the Paris Accord or is

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<v Speaker 5>he just hoping no one notices?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? By Monday, the Australian newspaper had to do some

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<v Speaker 2>backtracking of its own. Clearly after Dutt urged it to

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<v Speaker 2>give him another go, it ran a new piece headlined

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutton won't quit Paris Agreement and net zero. It

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<v Speaker 2>reported that Dutton would live up to the overall Paris target,

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<v Speaker 2>which is to reach net zero by twenty fifty, even

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<v Speaker 2>though he was scrapping the forty three percent emissions reduction

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<v Speaker 2>by twenty thirty, which of course is meant to be

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<v Speaker 2>a key stepping stone to getting to zero. Well. By Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutton was spinning these clarifications as what he always

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<v Speaker 2>meant anyway, But at a press conference fittingly held in

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<v Speaker 2>a darkly draped hotel conference room, Dutton refused five times

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<v Speaker 2>to say whether the coalition's twenty thirty and twenty thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five targets would be higher or lower than the governments.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll make our announcements in relation to our targets are

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<v Speaker 6>in due course. But look in terms of announcements, will

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<v Speaker 6>make them in due course. But on the next.

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<v Speaker 2>Deal, he said the Coalition would only reveal that after

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<v Speaker 2>the next election when it wins, saying he needed the

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<v Speaker 2>resources of being in government to make an accurate assessment.

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<v Speaker 6>Australian families are struggling under this cup at the moment,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think we have a better way forward and

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<v Speaker 6>we're laying that plan out to the public.

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<v Speaker 2>Not Despite all of this, Scott Peter Dutton wasn't backing down. Midweek.

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<v Speaker 2>He made it very clear he still intends to make

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<v Speaker 2>this an election issue.

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<v Speaker 6>We want to make sure that we've got an energy

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<v Speaker 6>policy that's working for Australians, not against them. I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>going to sign up to an arrangement that destroys our

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<v Speaker 6>economy and sends families and small businesses into bankruptcy.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Paul, But if Peter Dutton is so confident in

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<v Speaker 1>this as an election issue, why all of this mystery,

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<v Speaker 1>all this equivocation about what the coalition's position actually is

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<v Speaker 1>and what emissions reduction they will commit to.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Scott, I have no doubt it's because of the

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<v Speaker 2>internal politics within the opposition. On one hand, you have

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<v Speaker 2>moderate liberal MPs who believe climate skepticism has been toxic

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<v Speaker 2>with voters for the coalition. The most outspoken this week

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<v Speaker 2>was Bridget Archer. She openly defy Dutton, saying any weakening

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<v Speaker 2>of the current twenty thirty climate target would be regressive.

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<v Speaker 2>She says the twenty thirty target should be kept and

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<v Speaker 2>any alteration should be put to the voters transparently before

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<v Speaker 2>the election. On the other hand, you have people like

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<v Speaker 2>Barnaby Joyce who's called for Australia to ditch the Paris

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<v Speaker 2>Agreement entirely. Well, that's something Donald Trump did last time

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<v Speaker 2>he was in the White House, and he would certainly

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<v Speaker 2>do it again if he returns as US President in November.

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<v Speaker 2>And some say Dutton has his eye on that possibility

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<v Speaker 2>and would take his cues from Washington. It would give

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<v Speaker 2>him and the climate skeptics in the ranks some cover,

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<v Speaker 2>or so they think. But Scott the ructions in the

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<v Speaker 2>coalition are unlikely to convince Dutton to drop the issue.

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<v Speaker 2>And prompting that thought was author and journalist Nicky Sava's

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<v Speaker 2>response to the Courtly Essays profile on Peter Dutton. She

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<v Speaker 2>writes the Dutton was a keen observer of Tony Abbott

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<v Speaker 2>destroying the Gillard and Rudd governments by never taking his

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<v Speaker 2>foot off their throats. Dutton is motivated by Abbot's template

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<v Speaker 2>of never taking a backward step, always moving forward, and

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<v Speaker 2>always on the attack. Severa reveals that Abbott continues to

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<v Speaker 2>teutor Dutton and involve himself deeply in party pre selection

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<v Speaker 2>for the right Conservative candidates. Well, she's dubbed Tony Abbott

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<v Speaker 2>Terminator one and Peter Dutton Terminator two. You know it's

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<v Speaker 2>a down under political version of Haste la vista baby.

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<v Speaker 1>After the break, I'll be back and so will Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>So Paul, we know Peter Dutton is going to pursue

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<v Speaker 1>climate as an issue right up until the election. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt about that now. But how the government feeling

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<v Speaker 1>about that, because they've seen the damage that can be

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<v Speaker 1>done to a labor government with this line of attack before.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Albernizi believes times have changed and he has no

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<v Speaker 2>intention of being Dutton's patsy on this.

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<v Speaker 5>The first time I spoke from here in the Prime

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<v Speaker 5>Minister's courtyard was when we legiscided Australia's twenty thirty target.

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<v Speaker 2>The Prime Minister was quickly out of the block with

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<v Speaker 2>a news conference on the King's Birthday holiday to go

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<v Speaker 2>on the counter attack.

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<v Speaker 5>Peter Dutton is walking away from climate action. His decision

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<v Speaker 5>to abandon the twenty thirty target means him walking away

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<v Speaker 5>from the paris A court.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard both fell victim

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<v Speaker 2>to Abbot's assaults on climate policy. But Albernizi believes that

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<v Speaker 2>the issue there was more of the disunity with in

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<v Speaker 2>the Labor government and being unable to present a united

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<v Speaker 2>front in defense of itself and its policies.

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<v Speaker 5>It is remarkable that the lesson that Peter Dutton appears

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<v Speaker 5>to have got from the last election is to be

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<v Speaker 5>worse on climate than Scott Morrison was.

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<v Speaker 2>The Prime Minister. Says that even if everything went Dutton's

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<v Speaker 2>way on nuclear, it couldn't happen before twenty forty and

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<v Speaker 2>is eight times the cost of renewables.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Paul I want to talk about that a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>What do the policies of each of the parties actually

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<v Speaker 1>mean for the economy, for the climate crisis. What's the

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<v Speaker 1>choice that's going to be in front of us here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Scott economically and in terms of attracting investment, among

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<v Speaker 2>other things. Dutton has made a mess of things with

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<v Speaker 2>even owners of Australia's coal and gas fired power plants,

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<v Speaker 2>along with the major business groups. Well, they're critical of

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<v Speaker 2>the uncertainty here and they're all urging him to stick

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<v Speaker 2>with the legislated target so they can plan for the

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<v Speaker 2>energy transition which is happening and is inevitable. The projections

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<v Speaker 2>of the Energy Regulator that power costs will come down

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<v Speaker 2>as more renewables come online, spurred on by targets being set,

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<v Speaker 2>and indeed labor is under pressure to set even more

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<v Speaker 2>ambitious targets. As far as the climate crisis goes, the

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<v Speaker 2>choice is are clear, Greens leader and and banned. For example,

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<v Speaker 2>in response to this latest climate in Brolio cited work

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<v Speaker 2>done by the international think tank Climate Analytics. It found

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<v Speaker 2>that the target taken by the Liberals to the last

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<v Speaker 2>election of twenty six to twenty eight percent is consistent

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<v Speaker 2>with a catastrophic three to four degrees of global warming

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<v Speaker 2>by twenty fifty. Labour's forty three percent does a bit

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<v Speaker 2>better at two degrees, something that's still would have dire consequences.

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<v Speaker 2>But only the Greens and the Teal Independence with their

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<v Speaker 2>seventy four or sixty percent target, would see warming contained

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<v Speaker 2>to one point five degrees. And that presupposes, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>that the other one hundred and ninety four signatories to

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<v Speaker 2>Paris step up to the mark too.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Paul I want to take a step back

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<v Speaker 1>here because I think what's so strange about this for

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<v Speaker 1>so many people is that you know nothing about the

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<v Speaker 1>last election or opinion polling would suggest that the public

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<v Speaker 1>are about to jump on board for slower action on

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<v Speaker 1>climate change. And Peter Dutton is a smart politician, he'd

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<v Speaker 1>know what that polling and what those results say. So

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<v Speaker 1>is he taking a really big political risk here that

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<v Speaker 1>he can make this a voting issue again through force

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<v Speaker 1>of will and his rhetoric.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there are some on the back bench that think

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<v Speaker 2>that the leader, Peter Dutton is delusional if he thinks

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<v Speaker 2>he can win the election this way. But the recent

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<v Speaker 2>European elections maybe something of a harbinger of what might

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<v Speaker 2>happen when Australians next go to vote. Unlike the last time,

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<v Speaker 2>climate change is not the dominant concern. It wasn't in

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<v Speaker 2>Europe as it was previously. Cost of living and high

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<v Speaker 2>energy prices, especially with the Ukraine War, well that was

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<v Speaker 2>making the Europeans think much more about their security. But Scott,

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<v Speaker 2>here in Australia, it would only take another summer of

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<v Speaker 2>catastrophic weather as we saw before the twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>election to see climate change action raw back to the

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<v Speaker 2>top of voters worries and concerns. The fact is the

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<v Speaker 2>planet is heating dangerously and it's a looming catastrophe that

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<v Speaker 2>can't be ignored.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul, thank you so much for your time. It's boys

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<v Speaker 1>a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Scott.

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<v Speaker 1>Buy also in the news today, two New South Wales

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<v Speaker 1>police officers have been charged with assaulting a ninety two

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<v Speaker 1>year old man following an incident in the southwest of

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<v Speaker 1>Sydney earlier this year. The two officers went to the

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<v Speaker 1>home after two triple zero calls were made indicating a

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<v Speaker 1>domestic violence situation. The ninety two year old was handcuffed,

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<v Speaker 1>suffered a fractured arm and significant bruising to the head.

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<v Speaker 1>No domestic violence charges have been filed, and ABC chair

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<v Speaker 1>Kim Williams told an audience at Sydney's Vivid Festival that

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<v Speaker 1>the coalition's nuclear policy was quote absent any of the

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<v Speaker 1>normal fabric of policy formulation, but that he was entitled

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