1 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to NROL three sixty, I believe from every angle, 2 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: brought to you by NIV. 3 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: Joining me again, the great Gordon Tallis. That's been the 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 2: journal A straight in. 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: Paul Crawley and Dave Riccio. Another huge show on tonight 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: now Telstra top Story with just three rounds remaining. A 7 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: state of confusion has descended on the NRL as fans 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: demand answers of rules and interpretations that are deciding games 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: and potentially a team's whole season. Now, Gordy, we've seen 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: this over the past few weeks. Obstructions, the blockers, high shots, 11 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: it's just really taking over the game at the moment. 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: Everyone's talking about it and there's been some big calls 13 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: that have been made and overlooked. 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, especially the Newcastle Cronulla game. The blockers, I 15 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: thought that, you know, I think this reel got brought 16 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: in because they were blocking the markers and they were 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: blocking a direct line. No one here from the Sharks 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: got blocked at all. I think William Kennedy for one, 19 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: he's off side, but no one got blocked running to 20 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: get it and the markers are the closest, So I'm 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 3: confused about there. And then you go down the other 22 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: end and Kaylen Ponger just run straight in to the 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: Sharks play and. 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: That's what's going to see. One thing we noticed last night. 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: We just saw it as we were watching the footage. 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: But Caylen actually. 27 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: Misses this and Graham and Asley didn't bring it up 28 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: in his press conference and it was overlooked quite a bit. 29 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: Why didn't and Asley mentioned. 30 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 4: Well, guys, I find this unbelievable given the amount of 31 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 4: information that we received from the match officials during game. 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 4: We were able to hear the video referee bunker. How 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 4: the match officials at any point in this because Kaylen 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 4: goes on to Captain's challenge this, how at no point 35 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 4: did they indicate that there was no field goal. And 36 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 4: I firmly believed several Nights players were of the opinion 37 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 4: it went through his hint the captain's challenge. 38 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: Anyway, it's we'll delve more into that soon, Crawls. But 39 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: this whole state of confusion at the moment, even the 40 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: late shots, right, there's a few late shots on the weekend, 41 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: that first try on the Melbourne Penrith game. We didn't 42 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: talk about that last night, and that was pivotal in 43 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: the end and that was just an obstruction. It is 44 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: a bit of a mess, isn't it heading into the finals. 45 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 5: Here's the problem. There's coaches. 46 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 6: You've got Craig Fitzgibbon, You've got Adam O'Brien other coaches 47 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 6: over the weekend. You've got captains, you've got commentators, you've 48 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 6: got fans. You've got Rugby League Hall of Fame halfback 49 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 6: who doesn't know what an obstruction is anymore or not 50 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 6: according to the bunk, like it's across the board, guys, 51 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 6: and you can't bury your head in the sand and 52 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 6: pretend it's not a. 53 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 5: Problem, like the NRL is doing with Graham. 54 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 6: Mensley on the weekend or on Monday talking about the 55 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 6: blockers as if he's right and everyone else is wrong. 56 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 5: Everyone else should talk to we're talking to. 57 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 6: Guys of your experience, of reg Alexander, of Cooper Kropp, 58 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 6: so many people across the game. They're just lost. They're 59 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 6: lost with what the rules are. And you know we're 60 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 6: twenty four rounds into the season. 61 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: Well, one thing is why William Kennedy wasn't checked and 62 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: the bunker can't look at that. And then in this 63 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 3: game when Papahousen goes for the quick forty twenty. Yes, 64 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: and there's a player off side that takes no part 65 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: in the game. That's true, not one part in the 66 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: game where Kennedy has an effect on the. 67 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: Kids, Jim Gordy. So he's got no part in that game. 68 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 3: He's on the opposite side of the field. But they 69 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: go back and check that. 70 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 4: Well. 71 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 6: The problem is again, every single time a kick goes up, 72 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 6: and if it's in a try scoring situation, nearly the 73 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 6: first thing the bunker says is chase is cleared. They 74 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 6: can tell if a player's off side. Yet in the 75 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 6: instance of William Kennedy on the weekend, the Bunker's not 76 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 6: allowed to rule on like It makes no sense at 77 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 6: all why they can call offside from a kick but 78 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 6: not offside from a team running up. 79 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 5: It's just crazy. 80 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 4: It's highly concerning, guys, from a fans point of view, 81 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 4: because of where we are at this point in the season. Now, 82 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 4: this almost feels like a crackdown as far as the 83 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 4: blockers are concerned. Certainly you think about, to Craus's point, 84 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 4: the amount of confusion and complete no understanding whatsoever on 85 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 4: the actual ruling me personally, I went and listened to 86 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 4: both commentary from both broadcasters of this match just to 87 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 4: determine whether it was cross the board. We're talking about 88 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 4: thirty game test players, expert commentators not knowing if this 89 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 4: is a crack down what the rule is, and from 90 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 4: a fans point of view, it's nerve wracking going into 91 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 4: this point of view. 92 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 3: And then my concern is there will never be a 93 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 3: field goal kicked again because someone's always going to be 94 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: in front of the blood kicking it because he wants 95 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 3: to get space. So brak a couple of your field 96 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: goals we think got her up six turn, let's take 97 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: a quick shot just before halftime. 98 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 2: There's going to be someone who you don't always set 99 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: up for a field goal. 100 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes it can be a game where you kind of think, okay, 101 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: where we're going to get to on the field, should 102 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: we have a shot at screwings, And then you look 103 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: at the scoreboard, you're up by six. You know there's 104 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: maybe eight minutes to go. You know you're at that 105 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: point where it's not a necessity to go for it, 106 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: but you could kick it and you're still there. There's 107 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: a lot of things going through a half mine throughout 108 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: a game. But now a halfback. 109 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: Really can't just do that or they just can't take 110 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: a shot. 111 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 4: I cannot falld. 112 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: I'm lost. 113 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 4: I'm absolutely lost to see how that's a penalty there. 114 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: But it's only because of the other one. It's a 115 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: square up. 116 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: It's a square up, which is not what we want 117 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: in our game. The first one should not have been 118 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: a penalty. I think it's one of the worst calls 119 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: of the year, if not the worst call, the Caleb one, 120 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: even though we ended up missing it. 121 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 6: The fact that that's the that's the new line in 122 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 6: the sem going forward. 123 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: I can't believe you backed it. 124 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: If he'd come out and said we got it wrong, 125 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 1: we wouldn't be in this mess right now, because, okay, 126 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: we know what the rules are moving for. 127 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: We got that wrong. 128 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: The only time that it is a penalty is if 129 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: those players are blocking or impeding the opposition. 130 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: That's as simple as that. 131 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 4: And we all know what impeding a player looks. 132 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely, we're all. 133 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 4: It's as clear as day when that's a fair enough penalty. 134 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 4: He was in the way, certainly, we've said at the 135 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 4: player of the ball, where a forward stands right next 136 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 4: to that player of the ball and obstructs the defending 137 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 4: team from running through to put pressure on the kicker. 138 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 4: We've seen it all. 139 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 3: The wording is they denied them the opportunity and we 140 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: look at it, we go fair, unfair. 141 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 2: What do you have got there? 142 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 6: And we lived with Kalen Pongo one where the next 143 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 6: one straight there and milk the penalty and that becomes 144 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 6: the norm going forward. And as Greg Alexander was out 145 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 6: at the back and we're having a chat about this 146 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 6: before the show and he said, but he said, he 147 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 6: made a really valid point. The game is about deception 148 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 6: and if you've got you have to have blokes in 149 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 6: front who, like Brace said, could be getting the ball 150 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 6: and you can change your mind at the last minute. 151 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 5: Now do you just have to go for the field goal? 152 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: Well, you know the field guy's coming because there'll be 153 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: one bloke standing there at a half stand there going like this, 154 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: There'll be no one in front of him, and then 155 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: you'll have the whole team running, poor Blake. So it's crazy, 156 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: you know what, we're changing the fabric of our game 157 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: and for what for what? 158 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 5: Resnots on the weekend? 159 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: Mate? 160 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 5: You know you've you've. 161 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 6: Got James Fisher Harris penalized for a split second. For 162 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 6: a split second, if you watch that at normal speeds, 163 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 6: it's not. 164 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: Like, let's have a little bit. 165 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: So this is this is from the weekend that I 166 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: mean that that's barely late, if late at all. 167 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: That's just it's not a penalty. 168 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,559 Speaker 6: Thoughts on, This decides the game, decides the game. 169 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 5: This is worse in my books. 170 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 6: That's front rower, as they said in the commentary, that's 171 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 6: front rower and front rower. And again Cafusi has got 172 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 6: him at almost the perfect time. In years gone, decades 173 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 6: gone by, we used to celebrate the great tacklers of 174 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:57,559 Speaker 6: the game, the Trelor, Trevor Gillmeisters, the Cement Billespie's, Terry Randall, 175 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 6: go back as far as you want. But now this 176 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 6: police confuci is becoming the victim. 177 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: Look. 178 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: I regon about five years ago the playmakers were getting 179 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: targeted and they weren't protected when they were kicking, and I. 180 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: Read and I argue it needed to change. 181 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: Now now the scale is so heavy on the halves 182 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: getting protected. 183 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: The big guys aren't getting the fee. Send him out 184 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: where they've gone too far. Send him out. 185 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 5: We're in the protection. 186 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 6: You're not allowed to tackle it the fro's what it's become. 187 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 4: The fast of all. This is in late in that 188 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 4: Sharks game. So she only could tell and makes a 189 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 4: break in Golden Point, gets collected high, no penalty. He's 190 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 4: currently sideline now through a h I eight gone, can't 191 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 4: play this weekend, got hit high no penalty. Try and 192 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 4: understand it well. 193 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 6: The week earlier, Roger, two of us the checks get penalized. 194 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 5: And that's the difference in. 195 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: That as of a solomony gets sent off and then 196 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: Mitch the shot on Kenny, Mitch Kenny hint he doesn't 197 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: get ten in the bin. 198 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 6: And going back to the original topic that that's why 199 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 6: there is this confusion because it's it's happening too frequently. 200 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 6: We all under stand that the referees in the heat 201 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 6: of battle will make mistakes. 202 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: Of you guys, I think the worst. Too many. 203 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 5: It's the bunker of making too many mistakes. 204 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 6: There's too many things that are just confusing not only 205 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 6: the fans, but the coaches, the captain, the commentators. 206 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 4: Everyone get the sense the blocker could head down the 207 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 4: path of the disruptor. 208 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: Go I reckon, where's the disruptor? It's gone, It's gone. 209 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: Hopefully the block has gone to the concern to his 210 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: heading into finals that this could turn out not good 211 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: for a team in the final series. Now, it was 212 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: unclear if Adam O'Brien was aware Calen pom and missed 213 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: the field goals. The coach claimed the Knights deserve the 214 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: penalty for Will Kennedy being offsite. 215 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 7: I thought the case was closed when he acknowledged that 216 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 7: Kennedy was off side for a step. Referees of a 217 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 7: bloody tough job to do, and that's a fast game 218 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 7: and they've got. 219 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: To see a lot. 220 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 7: The rules were used to the nth degree and the blockers, 221 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 7: but they weren't used to the anth degree in probably 222 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 7: the oldest rule in the book. 223 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: About being on site. 224 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 7: But I don't blame the referees of the touchdouts, as 225 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 7: I said, they've got a lot to look at. 226 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 2: We've got to blame the system. 227 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 7: I think there's technology there that we can use and 228 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 7: it was used on Thursday night in the Storm Penrith 229 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 7: game to catch someone that was offside at a tap, 230 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 7: but we can't use it and tail and asked for 231 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 7: it to be checked the on side in a golden 232 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 7: point situation. So that's a flawed system that needs probably 233 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 7: looking at. 234 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: Okay, before we move on from this incident and this game, 235 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: we've got to look at why Will Kennedy, why we 236 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: can't rule on him being off side. 237 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 4: It's argued that the camera positioning at stadiums, he's in 238 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 4: the center of the football field and therefore it can't 239 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: be the camera angle can't carry a line that's across 240 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 4: one hundred meters of the football field. Right, that's a fact, 241 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 4: according that's the argument. 242 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but that's common central yep. That there 243 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: doesn't that there doesn't pass the pub test I can 244 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 3: get on forward passes that it's really hard to rule 245 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 3: because the camera's not beside it. But looking at it, 246 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 3: there is he in front of the referee. Well, you 247 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 3: know what, that's a conjob. 248 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 6: That's a conjob because there is a line every ten 249 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 6: meters on the footy field and if you can't work 250 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 6: out if he's not on. 251 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 5: Side or off side, you're kidding yourself. 252 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: Mate. Do you know what else there is drawls touch judges. 253 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly which we can see of top. 254 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: Wee frame is the little touch judges right there holding 255 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: the off side So they're going to be held accountable as. 256 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 5: Well, and Adam a'brien is one hundred percent spot on there. 257 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 6: It is a flawed system because on the other hand 258 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 6: they are telling us when people are off side off 259 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 6: the kicks. 260 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 5: They are telling us that Jack. 261 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 6: Howarth was off side on the Pappenhausen kick, you know, 262 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 6: like it happens at the other end of the scale. 263 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 6: But they try and conness on how we can't do 264 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 6: it because the technology. 265 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 4: This was why the technology was invented. This is what 266 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 4: we brought the bunker in to help the human error. 267 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 4: You have time, they have time to look at this 268 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 4: replay through the technology, the millions of millions of dollars 269 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 4: worth of investment in the bunker to check this stuff 270 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 4: and it's still going there while. 271 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: We are on the Newcastle Knight's Dave. Matt Arthur signs 272 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: with them today. 273 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, Matt Arthur under nine ings in New South Wales. 274 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 4: Dummy half formerly with Paramatta, obviously the son of former 275 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 4: Eels coach Brad Arthur, has signed a three year deal 276 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 4: with the Newcastle Knights. Now it continues a bit of 277 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 4: a stockpiling a dummy halves at the moment. At the 278 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 4: Knights they currently have obviously Jaden Brayley, Phoenix Crossland and 279 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 4: now Matt Arthur in the footy club. They have indicated 280 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 4: the Jade and Brayley that he's free to move on 281 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 4: at the end of this year. 282 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: Is there any movement there? 283 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 4: Not at this stage, Breath. And so it leads to 284 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 4: an interesting scenario on whether they're going to have too many. 285 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 6: There look pretty good kids coming through, you know, in 286 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 6: the same position, and they've brought another one in over 287 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 6: the top of the own ones. They're being developing pretty 288 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 6: handy football. 289 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: So just generally, where are the Knights heading at the moment? 290 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: Are they on the way up or they got some 291 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: trouble ahead of them. 292 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 4: I've got concerns, Breath, I've got to admit. And I 293 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 4: just think there's a complete over alliance on Calum Pie 294 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 4: And if you look at that performance against the Sharks, 295 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 4: I thought it was most disappointing, to be honest. The 296 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 4: Sharks had seven players out as seven starters out and 297 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 4: couldn't close the game. And again it's so much reliant 298 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 4: on Kaylen Ponger. And it comes back to their halves, 299 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 4: which respectfully are solid NRL players, not star halves in 300 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 4: their own right. Of which are all on contract next year, 301 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 4: and so until they make some moves to take some 302 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 4: spine pressure off Kaylan, I can't see them making making 303 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 4: in the next couple of years. 304 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: They can't really make moves though, because apparently their caps 305 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: full right that's where they're trying to offload play absolutely, 306 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: so they can't even go and really sign. 307 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 4: Someone, which speaks to the Daniel Seifordi situation. Guys, so's 308 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 4: he was told several months ago. 309 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: They're going to be weaker next year and if Caitlin 310 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 3: didn't go on that ten game run, yeah, it. 311 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 2: Would have been real problem. They saved a lot of. 312 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 6: Jobs, signed coach the current administration. They signed Tyson Gamble, 313 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 6: they signed Jackson Hastings, they signed you know Cogga that 314 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 6: came there. All these guys are on their watch and 315 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 6: now they're not good enough for or what is it? 316 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 6: Because because Adam O'Brien, he got a three year contract 317 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 6: extension at the end of last year because of Conger 318 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 6: court fire, and it wasn't as if there were other clubs, 319 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 6: you know, knocking down the door to try and sign 320 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 6: Adam O'Brien, and so that they've got themselves in a 321 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 6: situation where what they've got is what they've got and 322 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 6: they've done it to themselves. 323 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 5: And I don't think. 324 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 6: That, like you said, like the Sharks had a stack 325 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 6: of players out, they had every right to win that 326 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 6: game and they didn't. And I know that there's some 327 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 6: controversy involved, but yeah. 328 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: Who's the boss at Phil garn Does he know what 329 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: he's doing? 330 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 4: Well, he's very good at running legs clubs. 331 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: No, No, that's not a footy club. 332 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 4: No no, which is probably why they've gone and appointed 333 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 4: O'Sullivan in that head of recruitment role to try and 334 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 4: fix what is Again, I just think it's a floored 335 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 4: rosstar with so much over lines on Kalen and to 336 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 4: your point, Braive, unless they unless they create space and 337 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 4: try and make a move for one of these big, 338 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 4: high profile halves that aren't available until twenty six. 339 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 6: Well, there was talk a few weeks ago that they 340 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 6: want to Peasant from Melbourne. But even if that doesn't happen, 341 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 6: and again they've signed these blokes, brought them to the 342 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 6: club and now lost faith in them and made it 343 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 6: clear that they've. 344 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 5: Lost faith in them. 345 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 346 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, they're buying underneath jayde and Brayley. Daniel Siefidi 347 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 4: is the one I was going to mention earlier. 348 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 2: Guys. 349 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 4: He's been tapped on the shoulder, said he can move around. 350 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 4: At this point in time, it's Saints are waiting to 351 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 4: see what's what's doing with Reagan Kempbell Gillard. They may 352 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 4: be left stuck with Daniel Siffidi on a significant salary. 353 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: Right, watched this space with the new Castle Knights. 354 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: Now we spoke about la Tree Mitchell last night and 355 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: he is set for a one match suspension. 356 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: So when will that happen though, Dave, Well. 357 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 4: Look, guys, this is interesting. It's the outcome is still pending, 358 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 4: all right, it's pending the NRL in part of the breach. 359 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: Right, he's got a one match suspension. 360 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 4: Well, it's heading down that path, right, and that's consistent 361 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 4: with similar misdemeanors of what we're seeing unfold with Latrell. 362 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: And there will be a significant fine involved as well, guys. 363 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 4: But it is about a current clause that sits in 364 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 4: a contracts that the r l P, A M and 365 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 4: South Sydney are arguing that that one match ban should 366 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 4: be served immediately. However, while he's injured, while he's injured. However, 367 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 4: that makes no sense. Well try and explain it to him. 368 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 4: I mean, how do you serve one match? 369 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: Give him the one suspension? 370 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: The club South Sydney and Latrell would be aware that 371 00:16:55,960 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: that's after his injury because he this breach and indiscretion 372 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: was after he was injured. 373 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 3: It wasn't like if I was the boss of the 374 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: players Association. You've got to make the players accountable at 375 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 3: some stage. And with the footage that we saw, don't 376 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: you go, hey mate, just cop it on the chin. 377 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: It was a poor look for rugby league. 378 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: We keep on going last year, we kept on fighting 379 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 3: and want more and more more money and part of 380 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 3: that is for good behavior and the selling on the game. 381 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 3: Don't you just cop it on the chin? 382 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 2: Round one? 383 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 6: It's changed it in the past with Taylor may Well, 384 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 6: Taylor may had had a suspension moved until the following season, 385 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 6: something he could play in the finals previously. So obviously 386 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,719 Speaker 6: someone at the NRL has the power to make this change, 387 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 6: and they're they're the bosses of the game. The a 388 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 6: R r L PA are not in charge of the game. 389 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: But it's just common sense. 390 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: Is an absolutely piss taking you if you took one 391 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: of those games and he was never going to play 392 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: and use that as his suspension. 393 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 4: It's like, come on, you know, I'm pretty sure guys. 394 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 4: Head coach of the rabbit Os interim head coach Ben 395 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 4: Hornby has stated that else season is over. 396 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that was last week, right, Yeah, that was 397 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 2: after yeah, the incident. Okay, yeah, So. 398 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 4: I just can't I can't foresee Andrew Abdo not stepping 399 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 4: in and saying, guys, he'll serve the match ban when 400 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 4: he's fit and ready. There's no other way to see it. 401 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 402 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: I think we go back to what we spoke about 403 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: last night in a way with the leadership at Souse 404 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: and they're making some tough decisions and they're going to 405 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: find him significantly and this just adds to that. I mean, 406 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: it's about accountability. You know, we all make mistakes, we 407 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: all got to be accounting, were all got to be 408 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: accountable for them. But we'll keep making those mistakes, right Yeah, 409 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: And that's kind of what's happening here. 410 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 6: That's the issue with Latrell, isn't it Like it's gone on? 411 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 6: We will go back last year to the Sam Burgess 412 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 6: incident where Sam left the club because he didn't believe 413 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 6: the standards were being met and South have you know 414 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 6: they've protected Lattrell. 415 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 5: Along the way, in my opinion, too much and will 416 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 5: they come back to buy him on them? 417 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 2: Well, they know that they've made a mistake now right, 418 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 2: all right? Talking shout Sydney Crawls. 419 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: You think Wayne's got some big decisions to make when 420 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: he gets there, Well I do. 421 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: I do. Gordon. 422 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 6: You mentioned a couple of weeks ago on this show, 423 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 6: you know, you said Wayne Bennett sacked Wally Lewis at 424 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 6: the Broncos. It was one of his first big moments 425 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 6: in coaching, the decision to get rid of Wally as 426 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 6: captain at the Broncos and bring in Gene Miles. 427 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 5: I think it was at the time. 428 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 3: He's not scared to make the big decisions and I 429 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 3: think with Wayne and from from my time and he 430 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 3: may have changed, but I doubt it is. You know, 431 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 3: he wants his senior players to be leaders, to be accountable, 432 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,719 Speaker 3: to be the ones that are out on the battlefield 433 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 3: all the time, and that's what he's going to expect 434 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 3: from the Souths guys next year. 435 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 5: He wants to win. He wants to win premiership. 436 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 6: So people say, yeah, well, Wayne's going to be the 437 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 6: best thing that happens to Latrell. 438 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 5: Wayne wants to win. Wayne won't put up. 439 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 6: If Latrell's not putting in, and if Latrell's not leading 440 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 6: the way and winning football games, it ain't gonna work. 441 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. 442 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 2: You just know that. 443 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,239 Speaker 5: Bennett is going there to win. 444 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 6: And I do think there is a bit of a 445 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 6: problem there because you've got you've got a one point 446 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 6: two million dollar guy, as you showed last year last night, 447 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 6: that's only playing half the season. 448 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 5: If that at the moment, he's letting the team down 449 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 5: too often. 450 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 6: I found it embarrassing for Cameron Murray after the game 451 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 6: the other day, where Cameron Murray, you know, you look 452 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 6: at what that bloke does for that jumper he went 453 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 6: out in May was it fifty five tackles, eighteen runs, 454 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty meters. He nearly set up the 455 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 6: winning try on the last player of the game. And 456 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 6: then he has to walk into a press conference afterwards 457 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 6: and he gets asked questions about Latrell and he has 458 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 6: to try and come up with excuses for Latrell. And 459 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 6: I found it interesting his choice of words actually without 460 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 6: twisting what he's said, because he certainly wasn't having a 461 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 6: crack at Latrell. But I found it interesting that he said, 462 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 6: I was proud of the players here tonight, and we've 463 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 6: put the outside noise. 464 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 5: Out of our heads. 465 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 6: And is the outside noise your highest paid player that 466 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 6: you've had to put out of your heads? 467 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 5: Because that's what it's come to itself. Latrell has almost 468 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 5: become outside noise at that club. 469 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 2: All right, Carauls. 470 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: Where you're on a roll beef of the week, you 471 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: tend to agree with Buzz, which you've been agreeing with 472 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 1: Buzz a lot. 473 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: I'm starting to get worried about you. 474 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 5: I believe that we have a problem with Golden Point. 475 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 6: I don't believe Buzz's point system is the answer. 476 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 5: Trust me on that. 477 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 2: I don't agree with that. 478 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 6: But what I do think is over the weekend we 479 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 6: did as you spoke about last night, we saw two 480 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 6: clear reasons why something has to give here. You had 481 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 6: the Canbra Raiders that went up to Townsville and fair 482 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 6: InCom didn't get off the plane. They got beaten by 483 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 6: forty points or whatever it was, and they didn't show 484 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 6: up and have a go. 485 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 5: The other mob Newcastle. 486 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 6: They fought that out for eighty minutes and at the 487 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 6: end of eighty minutes, and for one hundred years the 488 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 6: game of rugby league was eighty minutes and at the 489 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 6: end of the game that used to be called a draw. 490 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 6: My argument is, if you're going to continue with golden point, 491 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 6: you're going to have to make a change there, and 492 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 6: you have to give the team that finished equal after 493 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 6: eighty minutes one competition point. The winner just gets to 494 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 6: as any game is. It doesn't corrupt the ladder, and 495 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 6: it's fairness at the end of the day. 496 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 2: It's how's it different the buzzers for losing. 497 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 5: Points, two points, whatever, points. I'm just saying, Keth, everybody 498 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 5: gets it. 499 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 2: That is a simplified solution. Do you not like it? No, 500 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 2: I don't. 501 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 4: We play a sport that's winning and losing. End of story. 502 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 4: We created golden points so that we had a. 503 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 6: Loser we could get a golden point because it's great theater. Yeah, 504 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 6: it's not fairness. Sport is about fairness. Dar that was 505 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 6: not a fair system. 506 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. 507 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 6: It's not a fair system when they chucked the rules out, I. 508 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 4: Don't know how you could argue the Newcastle Knights went 509 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 4: for eighty minutes, they missed fifty tackles. 510 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 5: They come on at the end of the minutes. 511 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 4: Horrendous. 512 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 6: That may be the case, mate, But at the end 513 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 6: of eighty minutes, right, the scores were locked and for 514 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 6: a hundred years that's how a game was settled. 515 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 2: Mate. 516 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 5: It's great for the winning part. It's great for the 517 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 5: winning fair everyone's been on, everyone's been on and the 518 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 5: ratings and everything like that. But sport is about fairness 519 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 5: and they've changed every team. 520 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 4: I've been on both sides. 521 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: Team and make it right, Team ready, Team buzz, very 522 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: very similar takes on that one after last night as well. 523 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: Now Ivan Cleary has opened up on the severity of 524 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: his son's shoulder injury as the reigning Premiers begin there 525 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: run into the finals without their star half. 526 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 8: Yeah he's okay, he's obviously disappointed, but he's yeah. I mean, 527 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 8: the scans definitely could have been worse. So yeah, there's 528 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 8: obviously some hope there so much better than if there 529 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 8: was none. 530 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. 531 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 8: It was fairly significant at the time, you know, I 532 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 8: remember thinking that it was It's not a good thing 533 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 8: to be going into a very long season with that. 534 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 8: So that was in the lead up to the World 535 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 8: Cup challenge and it's a little reccurrence. But you know, 536 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 8: we're pretty hateful that, you know, such a short amount 537 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 8: of time left. 538 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 2: And you'll be able to work it out. 539 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: You We're pretty confident he'll be able to work it 540 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: out too. We spoke about this last night on the 541 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: show and we had Cooper Kronkorn, and Cooper suggested that 542 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: they may rest him and bring him back for the 543 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: pre limb. So Coops maybe having short of injuries in 544 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: the past, knowing big games, knowing Nathan Cleary. That was 545 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: he didn't say that he will do it or they 546 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: would do it. He just suggested it might happen. What 547 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: do you guys think of that? 548 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 4: I think if any team can can play on and 549 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 4: be still successful without Nah and clear, it's dependwth Panthers, 550 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 4: given just the structure that they play with guys and 551 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 4: their ability to step up in the absence of a 552 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 4: play it across there for you, would. 553 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: You risk would you hold him back until a prelim? 554 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: Would you be confident enough as a Panther. 555 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 9: To do that? 556 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 4: Look personally, no, And I say that because I think 557 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 4: Nathan has proven over when he has come back from injury, 558 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 4: has taken a couple of games to get going again. 559 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 4: They haven't been, you know, showstoppers from that first game back. 560 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 4: There might have been a couple along the way, but consistently, 561 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 4: I would think he would want a couple of runs 562 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 4: under his belt going into a GF. 563 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 6: What he wants and what can happen might be two 564 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 6: different things. And I think listening to Cooper last night, 565 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 6: Cooper speaks with experience that three weeks might be a 566 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 6: little bit too short. I think that's the point he 567 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 6: was getting it, wasn't he like it may be that 568 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 6: the reports at the moment are he'll be back for 569 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 6: the finals, But Cooper, speaking. 570 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 5: From experience, you know it was a similar sort of injury. 571 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 6: I guess he's saying three weeks is too short, and 572 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 6: so would it be too big a risk to bring 573 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 6: Nathan back and potentially suffer more demmit, The question is 574 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 6: or if he can leave it an extra week? 575 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: Is louis good enough? Yes he is. 576 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 3: He's playing good enough yes, yeah, And so he's taken 577 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 3: more with the range. 578 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 2: And you think, Isaiah, between those two, you think that 579 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: they could get them through. Yes, I think they can. 580 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 4: That's a really good point, Gordy. If if Jerome Leui 581 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 4: just just takes the Panthers to that level of performance 582 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 4: that you just know they're in safe hands, then the 583 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 4: decision to leave Nathan on the sidelines for another week 584 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 4: becomes a lot easier. 585 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: And saying that they have been a little bit sloppy 586 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, the Panthers haven't been at 587 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: their usual perfectional best and crawls. You think with the 588 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: Cleary injury, this happens the door for a team like 589 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: the Roosters. 590 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 6: I was interested in your comments last week on Munster 591 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 6: playing at eighty percent and then Monster of. 592 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 5: And played like it. The old Monster didn't. 593 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 6: But even if Munster has an injury, that can get 594 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 6: worse with the more work that he puts into it. 595 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 6: And he's only at eighty percent come finals time, and 596 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 6: Nathan obviously isn't it one hundred percent. I do think 597 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 6: that in my view, the Panthers were ahead of the pack. 598 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 6: I think Melbourne was the next best. But I do 599 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 6: think that this now with some pretty significant players under 600 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 6: an injury crowd at other clubs, you've got teams like 601 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 6: the Roosters, the Bulldogs you spoke about Manly. 602 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 5: Manly have got if their forward pack. 603 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 6: And if their defense can hold up, they've got enough 604 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 6: strike power to do some damage. I actually think it 605 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 6: probably makes for a more exciting final series because there's 606 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 6: probably a little bit more closer competition. 607 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 2: You left out of that I did on purpose. 608 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 6: Well, I haven't seen enough to suggest to me that 609 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 6: I think Kronulla can win the comp at this stage. 610 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 4: What do you think they got some work to do 611 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 4: because they have to go on and go and knock 612 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 4: off one of the big guns at the back end 613 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 4: of the I think I've done an extraordinary job through 614 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 4: this period of combination, change after combination, changed key halves out, No, 615 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 4: Niko heines, I think they've done an extraordinary job to 616 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 4: hold a spot in the top four. 617 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: What about quickly the Dogs ready put the line through 618 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: them last night? Did he read so they can't win? 619 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 5: I couldn't. I couldn't do it. 620 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 6: I do think that there's a little bit of a 621 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 6: separation between the ninety five Bulldogs and the current Bulldogs. 622 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 6: I think at the moment they're a really gritty, tough 623 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 6: team that plays with such great passion and commitment, and 624 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 6: they've got full for mine standout stars in kick Our, 625 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 6: Burton Crichton and Reed Marney. But if you go back 626 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 6: and look at time when the Bulldogs come from outside, 627 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 6: and their team at the time was Jason Smith, you know, 628 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 6: Dean Pai, Jared mccrack and Terry Lamb, Craig Pola, Mounter, 629 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 6: Jason Heverington, Darren Britt. 630 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 5: Like they had some pretty seasoned footballers with the Dogs. 631 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 4: I'm seeing a side that really happened. Their mental resolve 632 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 4: and belief, their confidence is king with this side, and 633 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 4: and they they don't fear anyone, and that is. 634 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: Well, they're the best. And their attack has improved. They've 635 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: got the momentum and their timing their run to perfection. 636 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 2: They are very dangerous. 637 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: Now the Rusters have announced the re signing of two 638 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: Rep Stars on a two year extensions in a big 639 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: boost for the bond By club. 640 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 10: Take a look, it's such a good club, you know. 641 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 10: Being here the last couple of months, you see how 642 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 10: genuine the people are and how specialized group is. You know, 643 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 10: I just want to keep on battling for those premierships 644 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 10: and we've got the team to do that. And yeah, 645 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 10: I'm just you know, I found found this like my 646 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 10: new home now and I'm grateful to be here for 647 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 10: the next couple of years. 648 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 9: It's a massive honor to be able to stay at 649 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 9: this club. And yeah, you know, I'll come back here 650 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 9: a couple of years ago for a reason and still 651 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 9: got some things that I'd love to do before I 652 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 9: sort of feel in the game, and it's just, yeah, 653 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 9: a privilege you be able to. 654 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: Do it for the Roosters. 655 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: Two great signings there for the Roosters, or re signings 656 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: of Watson and lend You. But still very quiet on 657 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: the Sam Walker front. We probably expected him to resign 658 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: by now. We know that he is free agent as 659 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: of November one. Why hasn't he resigned? And have we 660 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: heard anything else on this situation? 661 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 2: Oh? 662 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 6: Look, I think the latest that I've heard is that 663 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 6: will probably end up that Sam goes to market. 664 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 5: I think that he's backing himself. I think that he's 665 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 5: entitled to do so. 666 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 6: The rules say that come November one, he can talk 667 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 6: to other clubs, and he's put himself in a position 668 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 6: where you know, he will be a wanted man for 669 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 6: his next contract. 670 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 5: I can see. 671 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 6: The Rooster's side of the equation is that there are 672 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 6: a few players at that club probably ahead of him 673 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 6: at the moment in the pecking order, and you have 674 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 6: to structure your salary cap. 675 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 5: To me those demands. 676 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 6: But I think you know the way that players can 677 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 6: be treated and vice versa club. You know, players treat clubs. 678 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 6: It's a business these days. And if and if he 679 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 6: can hold out for a little while longer and back 680 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 6: himself to stand up in this final series, well, whoever 681 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 6: gets him is going to have to pay him, maybe 682 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 6: not top dollar to stay at the Roosters, because I 683 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 6: truly believe he wants to stay there. 684 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 5: But I think that that's where the separation is at 685 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 5: the moment. 686 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 3: Will the Rooster's budge on where they're at? It looks 687 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 3: like they've got a price down there too. 688 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 2: I think they will. 689 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 4: Well, if he goes out and wins this season's premiership. 690 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: Gordy, well your stocks go up, right. 691 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 4: So so the only winner here is Sam Walker because 692 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 4: his stocks aren't going. 693 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 5: To go backwards unless unless something. 694 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 4: Unless a major collacity you know, through these final series. 695 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 4: But that's the best roster in the comp by a 696 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 4: country mile, with Roosters easily close to it. Who's better? 697 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,479 Speaker 2: No, I said it's close to it this year right now. 698 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 4: This is the best right. So if he goes and 699 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 4: win the wins the premiership, foremost name his own price. 700 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: But it won't be at a more powerful club. It 701 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: must be at a lower club. 702 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 5: Well, who says who says who? 703 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: Melbourne Storm will get rid of Dernes get rid of clear. 704 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 5: Them two clubs. 705 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 2: But there are the clubs. 706 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 5: Clubs are powerful clubs. 707 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 3: Powerful clubs could be on the way only Cherry Evans Cronulla, 708 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 3: Mick Ohines. 709 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 6: Cherry Will Cherry Evans be still playing in twenty six 710 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 6: twenty seven? 711 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 5: I don't know about that, mate. 712 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 6: I think there's going to be a few openings because 713 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 6: you think about it, Reynolds is going Cherry Evans he 714 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 6: could play on a couple more years. But then again 715 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 6: you don't know how long these guys. There's Newcastle's another 716 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 6: club that are after in Newcastle. How the guy's going 717 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 6: to work out Lewis Dodd's going. 718 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: To work out at South Steak. 719 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 5: There could be many options. 720 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 2: All right, are you Crawls? Thank you, Dave, Welcome back buddy. Up. 721 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: Next is the players respective for James. 722 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: Graham and Aaron Woods and tomorrow from seven thirty PM 723 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: a very special night on Fox League as on the 724 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: greats of our game and reveal the fourteenth four