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Speaker 1: This week's episode of Pit Talk is brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Shannons. Moto GP dazzled under the lights for round

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Speaker 1: four of the twenty twenty five World Championship and Mark

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Speaker 1: Marquez dominated in the desert and it was a statement

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Speaker 1: ride a vintage Marquees, full of confidence, control and a

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Speaker 1: touch of chaos. But behind him the battle was fierce.

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Speaker 1: You caddies, inner wars heated up, the KTM showed flashes

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Speaker 1: of brilliance and Joge Martin had that incredibly lucky escape.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rinita Vanmulan, and joining me is the

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Speaker 1: man who can dissect a Moto GP weekend faster than

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Speaker 1: a ju Catt can launch off the line. Matt Clayton, Matt,

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Speaker 1: where do we even start? After that desert showdown?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 3: Brnanda, Look, there was so much going on, and I'm

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Speaker 3: very keen to get your perspective on what was going on,

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Speaker 3: giving you had a closer seat to it than me,

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Speaker 3: because to take readers behind the curtain a little bit here.

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Speaker 3: Everyone knows kitars in a brutal time zone for Australia.

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Speaker 3: So I'm sitting there at two fifty five am on

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Speaker 3: Sprint Day and and then a voice I could hear

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Speaker 3: at the circle across the TV is yours. And that

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Speaker 3: completely threw me because I know I'm tired. I'm not

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Speaker 3: quite with it, but there's something not quite right about that.

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Speaker 3: But we'll get to that in the future. But look,

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Speaker 3: it was a predictable results if you look at the

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Speaker 3: classification at the end of the weekend. But how we

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Speaker 3: got there, As you said in the intro, Man, there

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Speaker 3: were some twists and turns in this and the Johey, Martine,

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Speaker 3: there's something we'll touch upon because I don't know whether

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Speaker 3: he's cross paths with a black cat, or walked under

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Speaker 3: a ladder, or broken a mirror or done all three

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Speaker 3: of those things. But you could just not have worse

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Speaker 3: luck than that guy at the moment, could you.

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Speaker 1: I really felt for him. And when I spoke to

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Speaker 1: him on the weekend when I was there and I asked,

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Speaker 1: how's the body? How are you feeling? He goes, look

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Speaker 1: the body saw but I'm feeling good and I'm eager

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Speaker 1: to get back out. He was adamant of saying, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to try and fight for a win. This

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Speaker 1: is testing, this is me just getting back up to speed.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that when that crash happened on Sunday

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Speaker 1: during the race and we saw the multiple replays, I

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Speaker 1: also felt for Digito who had nowhere to go. He

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Speaker 1: did his absolute bad But then the fact that Jorges

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Speaker 1: sitting on the side of the track, the riders are

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Speaker 1: going around, it's still yellow flag in whatever sector it was,

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Speaker 1: I get this guy off the track, red flag or something,

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Speaker 1: because clearly he is not okay. So that really scared me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, definitely, I think any time you see that.

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Speaker 3: The one thing that did give me a little bit

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Speaker 3: of optimism was that he was moving like he's clearly

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Speaker 3: saw and clearly beaten up, but it wasn't like he

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Speaker 3: was laying prone on the side of the track.

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Speaker 2: So that was a positive.

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Speaker 3: Where he was on the track relative to the bikes

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Speaker 3: going through that particular corner, that was the bit that

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Speaker 3: was a little bit disconcerting for me, because I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure that yellows are enough in that situation. But then,

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Speaker 3: if you've read Flagg the right, I mean there's a

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Speaker 3: number of knock on effects from red flagging a race

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Speaker 3: like that, so I can see in some respects why

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Speaker 3: they didn't. But yeah, you mentioned Fabio Degan Antonio his

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Speaker 3: post race press debrief. I'm not sure whether you're in

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Speaker 3: that or not, but he had spent the next couple

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Speaker 3: of him. He knew that he'd hit him, and there

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Speaker 3: was no way of avoiding that. He's looking on the

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Speaker 3: after his own race had been completely ruined at the

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Speaker 3: beginning of the race, looking to see where Martine is.

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Speaker 3: Is he moving And you can imagine the emotions that

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Speaker 3: because he's inadvertently been involved in every.

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Speaker 2: Rider's worst nightmare of an accident.

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Speaker 3: He was pretty emotionally fraught anyway, because he was angry

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Speaker 3: with the way his own race had played out. And

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Speaker 3: you looked at him in that post race debrief and

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Speaker 3: knew that we'd escaped something far worse. When we've seen

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Speaker 3: accidents like this in the past end up with far

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Speaker 3: worse consequences. But Jorge Martin, now you look at the injuries.

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Speaker 3: Eleven fractured ribs and a punctured lung. And I don't

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Speaker 3: know whether anyone listening to this is actually fractured a

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Speaker 3: because you can't brace them, you can't splinter them. You

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Speaker 3: here you got Martine laying in a hospital in Katar.

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Speaker 3: He can't fly at normal altitude to get back to

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Speaker 3: going to take a low level medical flight to get back.

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Speaker 3: His season was pretty much ruined before this weekend because

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Speaker 3: of what happened in the preseason. It's completely ruined now.

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Speaker 3: But he's going to be out for a while. The

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Speaker 3: a timeline for his return because for a while there

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Speaker 3: that could have been super dicey.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't it.

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Speaker 1: Oh when you saw the posts or what he was

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Speaker 1: physically in pain. You really fell for him, Like you said,

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Speaker 1: what has caused this bad luck for Juay Martin? Because

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Speaker 1: When do you think Jorge is going to return? Do

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Speaker 1: you think he's going to return? Because this is a

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Speaker 1: question I've had going is is this him going? No? Look,

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Speaker 1: do you think he's still got that fight in him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think there's He will be back at some

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Speaker 3: meaningful because the championships, the title defense hasn't got out

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Speaker 3: We know where Ducati is that relative to everybody else.

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Speaker 3: He knew that when he left to go to a Priulier,

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Speaker 3: And so by the end of the year, assuming he

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Speaker 3: him being that guy that's challenging the Ducatties for occasional

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Speaker 3: and that show format. That's got to be the goal

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Speaker 3: with him through that longer lens of We've got this

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Speaker 3: at the moment, Gukati's just wiping the floor with everybody.

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Speaker 3: It would be a huge surprise if that changes this year,

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Speaker 3: So I can kind of see the way it's going

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Speaker 3: and that big reset, that's the clean sheet of paper, right,

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Speaker 3: where you're not going to watch each race and go okay,

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Speaker 3: so which do Cati is going to be on pole

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Speaker 3: and which Ducati is going to win? I think you're

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Speaker 3: So he's got to take the long lens with this.

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Speaker 3: He's got the he's got the World championship, so he

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Speaker 3: doesn't have to really fret about that. He's obviously got

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Speaker 3: He's been paid as a factory rider now, so that's

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Speaker 2: But he can afford to be a little bit patient.

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Speaker 3: He's not only twenty seven, right, so time's on his

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Speaker 3: side to a degree. He just doesn't need to rush

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Speaker 3: back now. There's nothing meaningful to fight for this year.

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Speaker 3: The number one priority has to be his health and

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Speaker 3: a huge preseason run into twenty six but this season

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Speaker 1: This season litt let me try to again that's this

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Speaker 1: season may be shot for Johe Martin. But Mark Marquez,

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Speaker 1: if like let's talk about that he hadn't won in

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Speaker 1: not the strongest the track Pecker Bannay is even he goes,

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Speaker 1: my brother Alex Marquez is a lot stronger at this

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Speaker 3: This was a different one though to the ones we've

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Speaker 3: seen earlier in the season at tracks where we know

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Speaker 3: he's really good, Like I mean, he Obviously he binned

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Speaker 3: the way he handled that CODA weekend, that wasn't a surprise.

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Speaker 3: Argentina was the same, Thailand was the same. As you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: this is a track he had one acts, it's twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 3: and other riders have better cvs here, they're stronger here.

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Speaker 3: But one by one the others kind of dropped the

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Speaker 3: Alex Marquez had the incident with De jan Antonio earlier

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Speaker 3: guys who were probably going to challenge Mark over the

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Speaker 3: Mark used to do in that he would almost want

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Speaker 3: not sure I've seen him ride smarter than this in

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Speaker 3: that now he knows, he said at the end of

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Speaker 3: just wait for him to come back to me, whereas younger,

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Speaker 3: more impatient Mark would have said, no, I'm getting back

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Speaker 3: Mark Marquez had said, Oh, I saw this orange KTM

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Speaker 3: come down the inside about halfway through the race, and

432
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Speaker 3: I figured, oh, that's Pedro Acosta, and then I looked

433
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,199
Speaker 3: to one side went oh, it's Maverick. Who knew like

434
00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,679
Speaker 3: he was absolutely shocked and was just so impressed with

435
00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,199
Speaker 3: how good Maverick was in that race. But he was

436
00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,600
Speaker 3: almost too fast for his own good. Because I did

437
00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,760
Speaker 3: some digging with this with this whole tire pressure stuff.

438
00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,600
Speaker 3: Obviously you've got to be above a certain low low

439
00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,639
Speaker 3: mark of tire pressure for the sixty percent of the

440
00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,440
Speaker 3: race distance. Katy m clearly didn't expect him to be

441
00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,240
Speaker 3: up to the front because they set his tire pressures

442
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,640
Speaker 3: to a point that he could run in the pack

443
00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,040
Speaker 3: and still be within that threshold. It was when he

444
00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,639
Speaker 3: got to the front of the race for five laps

445
00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,359
Speaker 3: that he's front tire cooled down that the tire pressure

446
00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,920
Speaker 3: went below the threshold. So even surprised his own team

447
00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,840
Speaker 3: by being too fast for his own good, and that's

448
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,520
Speaker 3: why he basically caught the penalty. So it's so funny

449
00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,480
Speaker 3: with the way these things work out. This tire rule

450
00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,879
Speaker 3: is convoluted and annoying and all of those things. But

451
00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,360
Speaker 3: he was so good that he'd defied what his own

452
00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,200
Speaker 3: team expected of him because he was up the front

453
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,960
Speaker 3: for five laps. So yeah, a very Maverick videal is

454
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Speaker 3: way to a get a podium and then be lose it.

455
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,760
Speaker 3: But he wasn't super upset after the race because he's like, well,

456
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,080
Speaker 3: we showed the pace, this was fantastic, and I think

457
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,960
Speaker 3: he was still going to hit herve pontchareal up for

458
00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 3: his podium bonus as well, so you know, second across

459
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,360
Speaker 3: lot and so where's my little percentage kicker for being

460
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,679
Speaker 3: on the podium. Thanks, But I don't know about you,

461
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,440
Speaker 3: but this weekend at her Rest, it's a track where

462
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 3: he's gone quite well in the past. He could be

463
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,680
Speaker 3: on the podium agin or it could be fourteenth, and

464
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 3: I'd probably just shrug my shoulders and go sure, because

465
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,919
Speaker 3: you just don't know what you're going to get from him.

466
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Speaker 3: But it was certainly fun to watch though.

467
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Speaker 1: It was and it made the race exciting to see

468
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Speaker 1: a KTM. And like you said, I thought it was

469
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Speaker 1: Pedro Acosta originally, and even reading you know articles, Herve

470
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Speaker 1: Panchoal was going, you know, before everyone was Pedro Acosta's

471
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Speaker 1: KTM's golden boy. But now they're going to start looking

472
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Speaker 1: at Maverick. Well maybe they're going to start looking at

473
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Speaker 1: Maverick for some of it, but like you said, it'll

474
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Speaker 1: be why is he back down in fourteenth or why

475
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Speaker 1: is he fighting for another podium? At Herrest? This weekend

476
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,399
Speaker 1: is typical. Maverick is nice and it's exciting, and it

477
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 1: added a change of scenery to what I thought we

478
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Speaker 1: were going to experience this weekend, which was Hope Well,

479
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,119
Speaker 1: a Mark Marquez, a Mark Alex Marquez, and a Peko

480
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 1: Baangnaya somewhere in those three and all of a sudden

481
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Speaker 1: you have a KTM up there. But then we also

482
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Speaker 1: had Joan Zako who finished fourth a Sunday's Grand Prix,

483
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Speaker 1: and Quita obviously with the penalty and everything from Maverick Vignalez.

484
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Speaker 1: But now we're starting to see the other manufacturers make

485
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Speaker 1: their way through. Joan Zacho. I spoke to him Akata.

486
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Speaker 1: He looks confident, he looks like he's jelling. He's comfortable,

487
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,679
Speaker 1: He's in his element there, and we've spoken about this

488
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Speaker 1: on the pod. There must be something in the team

489
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Speaker 1: dynamic of being the Elsier, the family team as they

490
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Speaker 1: call it, even though it's the privateer, but the satellite team.

491
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Speaker 1: It just seems to work for him. We're seeing the

492
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Speaker 1: same thing with Jack Miller, where they just seem to

493
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Speaker 1: be that bit more comfortable that they can then perform.

494
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Speaker 1: What have you heard from Zacho? Is this something that

495
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Speaker 1: we're going to start seeing him fighting close so? Or

496
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Speaker 1: was this another we can like Argentina where it just

497
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: seemed to suit him in that bike no.

498
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Speaker 3: I just think he has been really, really good this season.

499
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Speaker 3: I think he's the perfect guy at the perfect time

500
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Speaker 3: for not any Elsie but maybe that Honda project, because

501
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 3: I mean.

502
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Speaker 2: Let's face it, it's been so bad since Mark left.

503
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 3: It's been bad even while Mark was there, when he

504
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 3: was sort of competing between surgeries, and they've got this

505
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 3: situation with the factory team where the team looks different

506
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 3: because you don't have the Repsol sponsorship anymore. Juan Mier

507
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 3: is crashing all of the time, and if he's not,

508
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 3: then the poor guy's sick, like he was in Katar

509
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 3: and had to sit out the sprint. Luca Marine is

510
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 3: out of contract at the end of this season. He's

511
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 3: the guy who wants to understand what it is that

512
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 3: he's riding and how it all works before he pushes

513
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 3: it to that next degree. Zarko is a guy who's

514
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 3: going to wring the neck of whatever it is that

515
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 3: he rides. And I think you approach this a little

516
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 3: bit differently when you're him because he's been a major

517
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 3: GP a long time. He had to wait so long

518
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 3: for that first win that came here in Australia, obviously,

519
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 3: but now he's the oldest guy on the grid. He's

520
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 3: not doing like every race like it's potentially his last race,

521
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 3: but you know the clock only you know far the

522
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 3: time is undefeated, as the saying goes, and you can

523
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 3: only hang around for so long. He's making a really

524
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 3: good case that he should be retained by Hold, and

525
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 3: there's been some discussion. It's like, well, why wouldn't they

526
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 3: put him in the factory team? Like he's their best

527
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 3: performing writer so far, And that's not normally a conversation

528
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 3: you would have with a guy getting towards like the

529
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 3: twilight of his career in terms of age. But I

530
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 3: don't know about you. I don't see any sort of

531
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 3: drop off in his determination or his ability to push

532
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 3: the limits. He's still one of the hardest guys in

533
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 3: will to will combat there is in the field, like

534
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 3: Jack Miller always talks about, you know, when you're at

535
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 3: a fight with Zarko, you know it's going to be

536
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 3: gloves off. So he you know, you would think, well,

537
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 3: maybe he's starting to wind down. I'd almost go the

538
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: other way and say, right now, if you're Honda, why

539
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 3: wouldn't you throw him in the factory team if you

540
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 3: have a chance if you're looking for a potentially a stopgap,

541
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 3: because he's getting the most out of.

542
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: What he's getting.

543
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 3: He is a very very determined guy. We know the

544
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Speaker 3: way he goes racing, and you mentioned before that sort

545
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 3: of family, small privateer type team. I think that brings

546
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 3: out the best in someone like him. I think Zarko

547
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 3: reacts better when he knows that he's sort of loved

548
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 3: and he's got someone with an arm a round his

549
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 3: shoulder and they're buying into what he brings. And that's

550
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 3: Luccio to a t, isn't it really?

551
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: So?

552
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, super impressive. Yeah, he got promoted up a spot

553
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 3: because Finale's got punted down in the classification because of

554
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: the penalty. But he was right up there the entire race.

555
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 3: And yeah, Honda's in the top five. Hey, we've not

556
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 3: said that for a while.

557
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: You mentioned they're about putting him in the factory team.

558
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: The I keep wanting to say, repsal Honda. Now that's it,

559
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: take a shot whenever we say Reps, wonder Castro Honda HRC.

560
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 1: I've heard the rumors and I wanted to ask you

561
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: about this, the rumors of Pedro Acosta potentially going to

562
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: Honda next year, and then we're hearing the rumors about

563
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: top Rack Rasgalioglu also making that move. For twenty twenty seven,

564
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: let's talk about Pedro and the rumors of him going

565
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: to factory Honda, because you mentioned Marini's contracts. You at

566
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: the end of this year me is still crashing or

567
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: is ill? Is that a possibility? Is that something you think?

568
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 3: I think it's got more to do with what Katims

569
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 3: show than what Honda does, because I think we can

570
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 3: see Honda's clearly climbing out of the basement. Now it's

571
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 3: a long climb. They've been a long, long, long way down.

572
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 3: And we talk about this on a previous podcast where

573
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 3: when Honda had Mark Marquez, he almost sort of flattered

574
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: the machinery where they thought that maybe it wasn't as

575
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 3: much of a problem as it actually was. I think

576
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 3: once you took a complete superstar off the bike and

577
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 3: put a very good motor GP right on it, you

578
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 3: could see their results just went down so badly. So

579
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: they're still climbing out of the basement, but they are

580
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 3: clearly climbing, and we know with Honda, there's no shortage

581
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 3: of ambition, there's no shortage of budget, and I think

582
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 3: that's the key thing if you've read some of the

583
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Speaker 3: reports out of the Spanish press. Obviously, if Honda were

584
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,479
Speaker 3: to get a Costa, they have to pay out his

585
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 3: KTM contract to get him out. That's going to be

586
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 3: not the work of a moment. And I wonder the

587
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 3: way I look at the ECSTA thing is that if

588
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Speaker 3: he's frustrated with KTM not being able to take the

589
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 3: next step and be ready, you would have to say

590
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 3: on balance that KTM's further up the food chain than

591
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 3: Honda are right now. So if you're putting a cost

592
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 3: on a bike that's not necessarily capable of achieving great things, now,

593
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 3: is it to be the same frustration, but just on

594
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: a different colored bike and a bit further back on

595
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: the grid. So I'm not sure. I don't know if

596
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 3: Honda's ready for a rider like a cost but I'll

597
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 3: put the end of that sense I put the word

598
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 3: yet because I can see a pathway where Honda might be.

599
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 3: It might just be a little bit premature. I don't

600
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 3: think Honda is going to be down in this position

601
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: for too much longer. It still might take a couple

602
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 3: of years and perhaps that rule reset that I talk

603
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 3: about in twenty seven might be the time that they

604
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 3: really start to step forward. So could I see a

605
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 3: cost on a Honder in the future. Yeah, look, possibly,

606
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 3: but maybe not yet. That might be one with a

607
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 3: longer lens. And the thing with Pedro Costa is atly

608
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 3: twenty one years old, so he's got the longer leand

609
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 3: he's got the longest possible lens. He could be on

610
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 3: this grip for another twelve years longer than that if

611
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: he wants to be. He's one of those guys. So yeah,

612
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 3: I could see a Honda in his future, but perhaps

613
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 3: not yet. But the look the top rack stuff, I

614
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 3: feel like I've been burned by this one so many

615
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 3: times because every time it comes up as a potential topic, go, oh,

616
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 3: that would be interesting, that would be fun, that would

617
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 3: be box office for Moto GP. I've almost got a

618
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 3: blanket banner myself here from talking about or writing about

619
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: top rack until it actually happens, because I feel I've

620
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 3: written or talked about that, Oh that'd be interesting if

621
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: it happens story, and then it never does. So yeah,

622
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 3: I've decided to keep the Q in the rack on

623
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 3: that one. So look, if he ever comes to Motor GP.

624
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 3: Then happy days. I'll have lots to say about it,

625
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 3: but for the time being, it's like, can you just

626
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 3: prove it first and actually get there and then we'll

627
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: discuss it.

628
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, it just continually he's coming in

629
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: the headlines of top Rack, Moto GP, and then some manufacturer,

630
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: and then a month later it'll be the different manufacturer.

631
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: But the Honda thing I thought was interesting was I

632
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: don't want to get too much into top rack, but

633
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: the fact of him having to go to Honda World

634
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: Superbike for a season then go to Honda Moto GP.

635
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, that's quite an interesting move if that's

636
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: something that they would even consider, But.

637
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 3: Sounds better on paper that it does in reality, I

638
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 3: reckon because if he was riding the Honder in World

639
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 3: Superbikes after about four rounds, it'd be like, what am

640
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: I doing on this thing? And you know, bike riders

641
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 3: aren't the most patient at the best of time, So

642
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 3: to ask someone to sort of you know, can you

643
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 3: just have like a bit of an annoying year doing

644
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 3: that and then will promote you? Like that's going to

645
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 3: get pretty old pretty fast, isn't it?

646
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: Oh? Exactly exactly, But let's talk about the rookie of

647
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: the weekend, Furman Alsigert qualified eighth and then what was

648
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: he top five in both the sprint and the main

649
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: Grand Prix. I'm just looking at how to get fourth

650
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: in the sprint. Yeah, once again, Matt, I'm going to

651
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: ask you this question. Was this just a circuit that

652
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: seemed to suit that you caddies, or is this Albiget

653
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: now finding his feed in with the big boys and

654
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: he's finally getting to grips with this is Moto GP

655
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: and how he can fight for that top five finish.

656
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 3: I think both think Well, is name me a circuit

657
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 3: that's not ad Caddy circuit Right now, they're all du

658
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 3: Caddy circuits. But I've been impressed with how quickly he

659
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 3: started to look legit because at the start of the

660
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 3: season three, preseason testing, in those first couple of races,

661
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, this guy looks a bit off the pace.

662
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 3: And he had that really weird Motor two career where

663
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: he was amazing, and then he got signed to Moto GP,

664
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: and then last year in Motor two it was like, oh,

665
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: you know, I remember we had Matt Burt on the

666
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 3: podcast last year and you know, you say, you wonder

667
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 3: if Kady would like to sort of take a mulligan

668
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 3: on that decision and throw it back in the.

669
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Speaker 2: Pond a little bit.

670
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: The race of his improvement's been the impressive thing for me,

671
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 3: because you know, he's super young, and he's super inexperienced,

672
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 3: and you see the complexity of these bikes these days,

673
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 3: with all the systems and the way they need to

674
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 3: be ridden and ride height devices and this, that and

675
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: the next thing. It's not a small step at all

676
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: from Moto two to Motor GP. There's not too many

677
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: rookies around. There's a lot going on. You're doing flyways

678
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 3: for the first four rounds. It's fairly chaotic. I just

679
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: think the rider he was in Katar compared to where

680
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: he was in Thailand four races, four rounds earlier. He's

681
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 3: come a long way in a super short time. And

682
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 3: we know he's on a really, really good bike. But

683
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 3: he's not just some sort of also round. Now he's

684
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 3: a guy we have to factor in, and he's still

685
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: going to do rookie young guy Motor GP. You know,

686
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 3: novice mistakes like he did in Austin when he came

687
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 3: charging up behind Jack Miller, and then promptly crashed when

688
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,479
Speaker 3: he had a top five on the table. But the

689
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 3: rate of his improvements is the thing that's impressed me.

690
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 3: And look, there's sixty on the green. If you're on

691
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: one of those bikes, then you're in with a good

692
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 3: shot of winning some silverware by the end of the year.

693
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 3: But it would not surprise me at all if we

694
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 3: see him now some things that have to go wrong

695
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: for other people. I could see him finishing on the

696
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: podium this year because we know he's got the right

697
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: bike to do it. So what he's seeing is we

698
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 3: don't know. He's still so young. But I've been impressed

699
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: by just he seems to be a fast learner, which

700
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 3: you know when you're coming into Moto GP, and particularly

701
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Speaker 3: after that first couple of rounds where everyone's talking about

702
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: Ayagura as being the gun rookie, Aldegarez really kind of

703
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 3: settled in and he's been super impressive, I think.

704
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Speaker 1: As well, coming to your first nighttime race and we

705
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Speaker 1: know there's only the one nighttime race that they have

706
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Speaker 1: on the calendar, but also talking to Alex Rins and

707
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Speaker 1: he's saying it still takes time to adjust. You still

708
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: see the shadows, you still see all that. So I

709
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: think for Feman, like you said, to have progressed so

710
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: far and doing that on the first nighttime race on

711
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: a Moto GP bike, it is that step forward that

712
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: he needs. And I think having Alex Marquez, who was

713
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Speaker 1: so far up the championship, was leading it right coming

714
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Speaker 1: into this weekend, now Foman is starting to show, you know,

715
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Speaker 1: I do to be here, look at what I can do.

716
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Speaker 3: It's a weird format too, Katar, and you would have

717
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 3: found that when you were there, because the whole race

718
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 3: weekend for Motor GP, like half of it's in daylight

719
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: and half of it isn't. Yeah, And I keep wondering,

720
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 3: you know, particularly talking about rookies trying to get used

721
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 3: to racing under the lights of the first time. I

722
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 3: almost wonder if that weekend format needs a flip, like

723
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 3: do we need to have the sprint on like Saturday

724
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 3: morning and then have qualifying at night because it seems

725
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: weird that you're qualifying for a race that's happening like

726
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 3: thirty hours later. You're qualifying in the daytime and you're

727
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: racing at night the next day. That's always a bit

728
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: weird for me. The whole Kitar thing because practice and

729
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 3: the way that the weekend sort of shakes out, the

730
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 3: general cadence of a weekend is weird because you've got

731
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: totally different track conditions and everything else going on. I

732
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 3: wonder if there's like a one off switch that needs

733
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 3: to be for that, But that's for people with far

734
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 3: more important jobs than me to decide. But you were

735
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 3: on the ground there was it a bit of a

736
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: weird vibe because you've got you know, you've got this

737
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: qualifying thing happening on Saturday morning. It's almost like you're

738
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: a totally different track, isn't it.

739
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: It is? It does feel like a totally different track,

740
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: and they do say that it funny. We were just

741
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: talking about the timing and I just want to go

742
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: back to I was talking to my brother when I

743
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: came back from Qatar, Chris Famulan for those who are

744
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: new here, and he was saying that when he used

745
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: to race it, and they'd race at night, they'd actually

746
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: race like two am in the morning or three am

747
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: in the morning. Yeah, the Jew and the Mist, because

748
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: so they do their practice and the qualifying when it

749
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: was dark, and then the Jew and the Mist would

750
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: sit down from the desert, they obviously would cool down.

751
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: The track would actually get really quite damp. He was

752
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: saying he actually crashed coming into pit lane once back

753
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: on Suzuki because of how much it is, So that's

754
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: why they moved everything back. And then you have the

755
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: trouble of the track temperature doesn't change all that much

756
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: because it is still really hot there. But you can

757
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: see as the sun starts to set, you see it

758
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: almost like the dust come in like the sets, So

759
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: it changes a lot, And a couple of them would say, yeah,

760
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: the track would feel really dirty as the time would change.

761
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: But then like I talked to like Fabio Coudro and

762
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: he's like, to me, it just feels the same. I'm

763
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: just doing the same. So I think it depends on

764
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: the writer as well and how they handle it. But

765
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: I would think for a rookie that would be a

766
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: lot to adjust for.

767
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: Well, he's got a lot going on anyway, because he's

768
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: getting used to the sprint format and you've got you

769
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: know what, the way practice has become now with Moto GP,

770
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: that last ten minutes of Friday practice has almost become

771
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 3: what we're sort of referring to as Q zero.

772
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: These days.

773
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 3: It's like the qualifying session before the qualifying session. So

774
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: you've got that going on. You've got two part qualifying thing,

775
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 3: a sprint race. There's a lot for rookies to get

776
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: used to. And I just think the thing with alther

777
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 3: Gear is he seems, you know, what, are we the

778
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: end of nearly the end of April. You look at

779
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 3: where he's come from the start of February to now,

780
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 3: he's made super progress. Now it helps that you're on

781
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 3: an awesome bike. Let's not now makes your bones about it,

782
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 3: but he's making the best of what he's got. And yeah,

783
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 3: I can see him becoming much more of a factor

784
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 3: towards the sharp end, or at least determining what happens

785
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 3: in podium places for the rest of the season if

786
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 3: this continues for him.

787
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the other rookie, and you mentioned that

788
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: I age now what I wanted to ask you with eyes.

789
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: I've heard some rumors going around on social media that

790
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: I is potentially going to step in to replace Jorge

791
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: Martin while the injury and everything's going. What's your thoughts

792
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: on that? What have you heard? Because I also feel

793
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: like that's a lot to put on a rookie. Yeah,

794
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: we saw him exceed expectations in pre season and testing.

795
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: But looking at the results from this weekend in a

796
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: Sunday's race, he was fifteenth. Okay, so he got a point.

797
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: But we saw him so well at the beginning of

798
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: the season. Now we're still trying to see him finding

799
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 1: his feet. Do you think he's the person to step

800
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: in to help replace and I'm seeing that with like

801
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: the air. Yeah. Yeah.

802
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 3: Look, it depends how long Martin is out, and it's

803
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 3: been some discussion that he might be out for twill

804
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 3: three months. And if that's the case, if we're not

805
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 3: going to see Martin until almost the tail end of

806
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 3: the European season, I actually don't mind it for a

807
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 3: Prillier because it's one of those things that, well, you know,

808
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 3: there's potential upside there as opposed to just sort of

809
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: running up and down on the spot for the next

810
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: couple of months. Because we've seen Lorenzo Savadori step in.

811
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 3: He's a test rider, he's not a front running motor

812
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: GP rider.

813
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: There's nothing to suggest that he's there.

814
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind a Prillier having a gur up in

815
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 3: that top team for a couple of reasons. A. It

816
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: gives you a more dependable points scoring option on the

817
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: second bike. B. It kind of helps you benchmark Marco

818
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 3: Betzeki a little bit, because I've been pretty underwhelmed with

819
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: what Bozeki has.

820
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: Done so far on that bike.

821
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 3: He was good in the preseason, but we've not really

822
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 3: seen it when it comes to the actual championship so far,

823
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 3: and the fact that a guru is on the whole

824
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: doing better. I think you'd learn a lot about both

825
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: riders if you put them together in the same garage

826
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 3: for a couple of months.

827
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 2: And I think.

828
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 3: If it was a race or two at the start

829
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 3: of the year when you Martin was going to be back,

830
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 3: probably round three, round four, that's not a long enough

831
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 3: period to perhaps put a guru up in the top team.

832
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: But if save Martin's going to miss the next i

833
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 3: don't know, six seven rounds or something, if you're a prillier,

834
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 3: then what have you got to lose? As opposed to

835
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: having Savadori in the factory team and he's basically there

836
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: to test parts and you won't see him at the

837
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: front of races, why not put a guru in there,

838
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 3: give him some more responsibility and find out whether he

839
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 3: sinks or swims in that sort of situation, and you

840
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 3: can have Savadora down on the trackhouse bike and it's

841
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 3: not as much of an issue. So I don't mind

842
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 3: it as an idea, but I think the validity of

843
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: that will be once we get an idea as to

844
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 3: how long Martin is likely to be out for. If

845
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 3: it is three months and he's going to miss pretty

846
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: much half the season to two thirds of the season,

847
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 3: why not because it's kind of nothing to lose, is there?

848
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: Well, exactly right. I mean, I think it's good. We've

849
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: seen what I can do, especially he is in that

850
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: track house team, so it is very different dynamic and everything,

851
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 1: I think, But for him to step into the factory

852
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: role essentially air quotes once again, I mean him alongside

853
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: Marco Badzecki. I think that could be a really good

854
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: team together because they are very different people, very different riders,

855
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: and I feel like how they would attack the situation

856
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: with the development of the Aprilia. I think it would

857
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: be a good teamwork.

858
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 3: Well, and I think they're coming at it from very

859
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 3: different angles. Have to remember, Bozeki is as an experience

860
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: with the Aprilia as a Gura is because he'd never

861
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: raced one before this season either, So it's not like

862
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: you're putting an inexperienced guy with an experienced guy. They're

863
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 3: both in a similar situation. I think you'd actually learn

864
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: a lot about both riders by making that move, not

865
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 3: just a gura because it it'd be interesting to see

866
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: how Buzeki reacted to that, and is there a natural

867
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 3: leader among the two who steers the development direction of

868
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: the bike. They're not fighting for wins right now, let's

869
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: be honest. Because they're not riding in to Caddy. You

870
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 3: may as well take a risk with this because it's

871
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 3: kind of a It's like a low risk, high reward

872
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 3: sort of situation as far as.

873
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: I see it, And that's what we love about motogps

874
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: because you never know what's going to happen, the twizs

875
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: and the turns and guess what. We had one weekend

876
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: off which you guys didn't get to hear from us.

877
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: But now we're back because we're going to Harath this weekend. Unfortunately,

878
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: we're not going to hereth we'll be watching it from

879
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: our sofas at home in Australia. But motor GP is

880
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: going to Herrath. So let's look forward to that thinking

881
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: of last year. I'm trying to rack my brain. Remind

882
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: me it was quite wet, wasn't it on the Friday?

883
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: So they didn't actually have a good set up.

884
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: On the Friday.

885
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

886
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 3: Look, her ref last week from last year for me

887
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 3: was that was that first Mark Marquez Pekovan flashpoint with

888
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 3: Mark being on a do caddy. Awesome grand Prix, like

889
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 3: one of the absolute best Grand Prix of last year,

890
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 3: and unusual in that Mark got the bloody nose in

891
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 3: a fight head to head with somebody, which is not

892
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 3: something you see very otem Mark and Vanya had that

893
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: awesome battle across those last few laps, and look, we

894
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 3: know Peco was on a better machine. We definitely knew that,

895
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 3: and it was just nice to see Mark fighting up

896
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 3: the front again. But you know, we didn't even know

897
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: at that point those two were going to be teammates

898
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: for the following year, because they all kicked off at

899
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 3: Magello a couple of months down the track. But that

900
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 3: was so interesting last year where you had the guy

901
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: won the previous two championships against the guy who had

902
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 3: kind of abdicated the throne a little bit, you know,

903
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: because he'd been so beaten up for the last few years.

904
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 3: It was a super intense flashpoint between those two Mark

905
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 3: at home Pecko sort of you know, winning one on

906
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 3: away territory. But the intensity of that fight, and the

907
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 3: thing I loved about it last year was that it

908
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 3: was just on the side of being accepted and I

909
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 3: say just like literally finger and thumb together and it

910
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 3: was millimeters away from being a little bit over the top.

911
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 3: But Peco gave as good as he got, and we

912
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 3: know how fierce marks in these head to head battles,

913
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 3: so that was a real feather at his cap that

914
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: day to sort of, you know, stare in the eye

915
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: of motor TP. He's giant and not buckle. He really

916
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 3: held his ground there. So I would love to think

917
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: that that would be the case again this year, but

918
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 3: we've already seen that Marco has definitely taken a step

919
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 3: up since he's gone to that factory team. It's a

920
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 3: weekend for Peco to stand his ground a little bit.

921
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 3: I think he's the guy who won there last year.

922
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: We know how he won. It's probably going to be

923
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 3: a Ducati track, because every track, as I said before,

924
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 3: is a Ducatti track, But I wouldn't mind a reprisal

925
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 3: of those two going camera and tongs up the front

926
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 3: for the Grand Prix again because it'd be pretty good

927
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 3: TV for us, wouldn't it. Oh?

928
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 1: Definitely, And I think you know he's all that in guitar.

929
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: The racing was really good and it was exciting. Again,

930
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't just Marquez getting up front and taking the

931
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: lead straight away, so hopefully we can see that. But

932
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: this is what then, I'm thinking, Okay, we know it's

933
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: going to be a Mark Marquez, hopefully it's a Peco

934
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: Bagno and battling it out. What about the rest? Do

935
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: you think we'll see Aldiga, who were just talking about

936
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: close to the front? Is this and Alex Marquerez coming

937
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: back to fight, maybe regaining his P two or is

938
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: it going to be one of the VR forty six machines.

939
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 3: You've given me Option A, B and C, so I'm

940
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 3: going to do what I do in pick Option D.

941
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 3: I'm just going to make one up here. I'm super

942
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 3: curious to see Yamaha this weekend because her read is

943
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: one of those tracks that it's not just about horsepower, right,

944
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 3: It's not one of those tracks with a massive one

945
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 3: case straight. You've got the front straight and the back

946
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: straight down into what is now the Danny Padroza carder.

947
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 2: I've almost called a drysack there.

948
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: It's not a track that rewards just straight horsepower, right

949
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: because you've not got these huge long point and squirt straights.

950
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 3: It's a flowing circle with that particular layout that's still

951
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: in Yamaha's wheelhouse, right. And we know that Katura has

952
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 3: been good there previously. We know Jack Miller has been

953
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 3: good there. He has a good record at her Reath generally.

954
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 2: So I'll be.

955
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: Curious to see what happens with Yamaha because you look

956
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 3: at the last two tracks. Guitar's got that one and

957
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: a bit k front straight. Austin's got that straight that

958
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 3: you can't even see the end of because it's so long,

959
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: And that's where you see the Yamahas might be in

960
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 3: a good position and they just get passed by decatties

961
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: like they're riding in a different category. So that's not

962
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: as much of a factor. A somewhere like her Reth

963
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 3: that's much more of a flowing traditional track. Yamaha has

964
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:28,959
Speaker 3: been a bit.

965
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: Up and down.

966
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 3: I mean, Quaturo has been good on occasions. Jack Miller

967
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 3: was fantastic at Austin and had just the most forgettable

968
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 3: Doha weekend of all time for a million different reasons.

969
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't be surprised to see them more in

970
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 3: the mix this weekend, just simply because I think it's

971
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 3: a track layout that suits them a lot more and

972
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 3: it's one of those you know, over a full Grand

973
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 3: Prix distance, it might be a bit of a stretch,

974
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 3: but if someone like Quaduro can qualify quite well, he's

975
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 3: the guy who could be fighting for something meaningful in

976
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 3: the sprint perhaps, And then you look at someone like Jack,

977
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: he's got would record that his last Scranpery podium was

978
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 3: at Hareth when he was at KTM a couple of

979
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 3: years back, so he's got some good results there. He

980
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 3: was very much looking forward to get there a because

981
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 3: he loves the place and be he could not wait

982
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 3: to get out of Doha because it was the complete

983
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 3: disaster of him having food poisoning and choosing the wrong

984
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 3: tie for the sprint and then having some random thing

985
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: happened to him in the race and it just never

986
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 3: happened for him. So he'll be keen to get there

987
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 3: Kwaturo should be pretty strong, and I think Yamaha generally

988
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 3: seems to be this weekend. A team that we might

989
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 3: see fighting more up the front is.

990
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: Miguel Lavera making the return to this weekend in hereth

991
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:31,959
Speaker 1: or Yeah.

992
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 3: TBC haven't announced one way or the other yet whether

993
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 3: it's going to be Augusto Fernanez or Olivera.

994
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 2: And as you know, Olivera was in.

995
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 3: Qatar visiting the Pramat garage. Still looks pretty sore and

996
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 3: beaten up. So we're now in this European part of

997
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: the season where we've got a race basically every two

998
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 3: weeks until September. He will come back, probably in the

999
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 3: next one too. I reckon he might try to come

1000
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: back this weekend simply because on the Monday after Hares

1001
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 3: there's a one day test there. Testing is so few

1002
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 3: and far between in MotoGP these days. He'll want to

1003
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 3: get through a weekend and then get the benefit of

1004
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 3: doing the test on the Monday. So if he's close

1005
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 3: to being right, I would suggest that they'll have him

1006
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 3: on the bike this weekend.

1007
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: You mentioned Fernandez or Gusto Fernandez there. I just want

1008
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: to say I actually spoke to him when I was

1009
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: at Qatar and the fan forum stage, asking him what

1010
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: is like test riding and whatnot. My read from what

1011
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: he said to me, he wants to come back to

1012
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 1: Moto GP. As you would. He had very difficult years.

1013
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: Let's say he was saying to me. He is working harder,

1014
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: he was training more, He's doing with everything that he

1015
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: can to try and get back. Are we seeing the

1016
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: results that could potentially bring him back, do you think?

1017
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: Or is it he is the test writer miguel O

1018
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: Lavera like we talk about this, the one year contract

1019
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 1: with Miller all the time. Right.

1020
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 3: Interesting with they Amahart, they've got sort of five i

1021
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 3: won't say overqualified, but five legit motor GP riders for

1022
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 3: four bikes. Right, So Quaaterero is the king pin, the

1023
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 3: leader of the project, the guy they're paying them money to.

1024
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: Alex Rins, as we've discussed before, has been just a

1025
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 3: shadow of himself since that accident Magello a couple of

1026
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 3: years ago, and he's still on the grid based on

1027
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: what he did before that than what he's done since.

1028
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 3: Because the last year and a half has been pretty bad.

1029
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 3: We know how good Alex is when he's fully fit,

1030
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 3: but those three those words, when he's fully fit, that's

1031
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 3: the caveat We just don't know Jack Miller, I think,

1032
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 3: you know, take guitar out of it. I think he's

1033
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 3: already shown why he's so valuable to a new project

1034
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: in terms of pramaccas, of the experience, the fact that

1035
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: Jack finds the ceiling of a bike super quickly. He's

1036
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: done everything he needs to do, And to my mind,

1037
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 3: Fernandez's motor GP story isn't finished. I think he's probably

1038
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 3: a better ride and some guy's on the grid now,

1039
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 3: he's just in the wrong situation.

1040
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: So I think.

1041
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 3: He's in a good position to get back on the

1042
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: grid simply because Yamaha has got a few moving pieces there.

1043
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 3: Whether he gets back on, I don't know. He's older

1044
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 3: than you think he is. You think of him as

1045
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 3: being a younger guy because he won that two two championship.

1046
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 3: He took a while to get there, so he's in

1047
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 3: that sort of mid to late twenties range. But I

1048
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: don't think he's finished by any means. I could see

1049
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: him getting back in. But there's just a few unanswered

1050
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 3: questions at Yamaha. Other than Quatarero, who's the proven you know,

1051
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: he's their shining light. He's the proven commodity. The other

1052
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 3: guys all have justify they have justifiable cases to stay

1053
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 3: on the grid, But just who's got the most justifiable case?

1054
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: I guess that's the answer to that question.

1055
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: Before we wrap this one up, let's talk about our Aussies. So,

1056
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: Sena Aegeus, what was up with that? That was not

1057
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 1: the ride that we from.

1058
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 3: No I was going to ask you that exact question,

1059
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 3: because that was a little bit of a head scratcher

1060
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 3: that I mean, with the others, we know Jacob Rolston

1061
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: is still getting himself back to full fitness and we

1062
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,479
Speaker 3: can discuss the craziest photo finish of all time Momoto

1063
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 3: three with John Kelso at a sec. But yeah, the

1064
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 3: age is one that I must admit that was because

1065
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 3: it was being held at stupid a clock here in Australia.

1066
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: I didn't sort of tune in and have a look

1067
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 3: and I was like, that's not worked out what happened?

1068
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 3: So you would have spoken to him over the course

1069
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 3: of the weekend. What was his read on it?

1070
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: Well, to me, he seemed really comfortable, he seemed good.

1071
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: It was maybe just like fine a little bits, but

1072
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: I know he's working really closely with Manu Gonzales and

1073
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: she guys can see right now somehow there's balloons on

1074
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: my screen. I don't know what's happening, but anyway, I

1075
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: know that they are there working really closely together. So

1076
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: from my understanding, that was all okay. But then to

1077
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: get that double long lap penalty and then not complete

1078
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: it properly and then have to do another one for me,

1079
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: I think that was Senna being really frustrated and not

1080
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 1: letting it clear his mind and not just head down Taylor,

1081
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: do what you have to do and then go through. I

1082
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: think that was him just trying to just a frustration

1083
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: getting to him. And I think he's still let's call

1084
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: him a rookie. Is his second year, still in Moto two.

1085
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: He's still learning to deal with that. But also the

1086
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: fact that his bike, his team, they're closer to the

1087
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: front than what they were last year. We hear only

1088
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: had his first podium the end of last year, but

1089
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: he's already had a podium this year. I think it's

1090
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: the frustration. I think it's him having to learn and

1091
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: keep growing.

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00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a different equation, isn't it. When

1093
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 3: you know you've got machinery that's capable of better and

1094
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 3: for whatever reason, you're not achieving that. I think the penalty,

1095
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: I think you're completely right. It's one of those things

1096
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: that maybe in the inexperience still in that you are

1097
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 3: too busy being annoyed about what has happened rather than

1098
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 3: thinking about what might happen in the future. You sort

1099
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 3: of hang on to stuff for that little bit too

1100
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 3: long and not completing along that penalty correctly. It's easy

1101
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: for you and I had to say City got the couch,

1102
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 3: but it's one of those things you can't rail against it.

1103
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: It's happened.

1104
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 3: You've just got to deal with it and move on

1105
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 3: to almost handicap yourself while having to do it a

1106
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 3: second time. That wasn't exactly ideal. But while we're talking Australians,

1107
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 3: I did shout at my screen here a couple of

1108
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 3: times with Joel Kelso because my goodness, like to finish

1109
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 3: what was it, eight one hundreds off a win and

1110
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 3: not even be.

1111
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 2: On the podium. That was absolutely crazy. The final lap

1112
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 2: of that Moto THII race.

1113
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: It was insane and you could hear the crowd, you

1114
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: could hear everyone like gasping. Everyone's on the edge of

1115
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: their seats. Joel. The thing is, he's so close now,

1116
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: and it's such a big improvement from last year. He

1117
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: is close. We Sawry Meals on the front row this weekend,

1118
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: like he is getting that and it's not going to

1119
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: be long before he's consistently that p one position. Man,

1120
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 1: just oh, it was just right there.

1121
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 3: It's so near but so far. But look you look

1122
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 3: at the season he's having, I mean, third World championship.

1123
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 3: He's doing a really, really nice job. But it feels

1124
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 3: to me like I don't think it's going to be

1125
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 3: too long until he wins one of these because he's

1126
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 3: right there in the mix now, you just need he's

1127
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 3: at ninety nine point eight percent of what he needs

1128
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 3: to be able to do. It's just that last little bit.

1129
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 3: And yeah, I'm galling to finish off the podium. But

1130
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 3: that photo finish I actually paused that and looked at

1131
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 3: that finish line a couple of times. You could not

1132
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 3: have had a podium decided by smaller bargins. I don't

1133
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 3: even know if it was the width of a front

1134
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 3: wheel was about half a front wheel?

1135
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: Is crazy?

1136
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: Do you know what blows my mind is how quickly

1137
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: the guy's in the control room looking at all the

1138
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: cameras ken decide who it was because I was waiting

1139
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: in the wings to go and present the podium and

1140
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: you see it the replaces happening on the TV screen

1141
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you get the result sheet.

1142
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: Note this is what it is. This is the finale.

1143
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: I mean they say that and then we had the

1144
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: Maverick Finnella situation, but this is the finale, all of

1145
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 1: a sudden, like how they can find it. It's so close.

1146
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 3: That's why they are the best of the world doing

1147
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 3: what they're doing and finding these things.

1148
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 2: That's why they're doing it.

1149
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: And that's what you and I are talking about it

1150
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. And one last writer to talk about before

1151
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 1: we close this up, Jacob Realstone. I spoke with Jacob

1152
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: really briefly. I said, hey, going, how are you feeling, like,

1153
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 1: how's it being back? He said, he is also taking

1154
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: his time coming back and getting up to speed. He

1155
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: feels like there's not pressure there, but I think he's

1156
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: putting pressure on himself. And I must admit, from having

1157
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: such a big damage of an injury to his neck.

1158
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: What did he finish on the weekend fourteenth. I feel like, Okay,

1159
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna take Jacob a few races to get back

1160
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: to where we know can get back to. But I

1161
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: think he's coming back more determined this time.

1162
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I mean that whole absence makes

1163
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 3: the heart growth on the type thing he's been out

1164
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: of it, and it's obviously a serious, serious injury. His

1165
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 3: number one goal now is to get back to at

1166
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 3: least where he finished last year in terms of confidence

1167
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 3: and feel and physically. But you don't want to overstep

1168
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 3: here because the last thing he needs is another fall.

1169
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 3: He just needs to get through weekends cleanly and just

1170
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 3: methodically build his way back up. I reckon it about

1171
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 3: a month's time will start to see the best of

1172
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 3: Jacob once he's had a couple of European tracks under

1173
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 3: his belt, and obviously going back to Herreth this weekend

1174
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 3: will be a bit of a mental thing to get

1175
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 3: over because of where he was injured, but it's he

1176
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 3: just needs to. You know, you're asking a motorcycle rider

1177
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 3: to be patient. It's not the easiest thing in the world,

1178
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 3: but he just needs to do that at the moment

1179
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 3: and just methodically get his way back to where he was.

1180
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: I love that you've said that twice in this podcast

1181
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: about how I rode a cycle race and needs to

1182
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: be patient, and I'm just thinking about what it's like

1183
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: being in my family and having the first experience of that.

1184
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 3: I spent many a year having this conversation with your

1185
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 3: brother and he looked at me like I was completely

1186
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: insane because I don't understand.

1187
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: He was right and so was I, and I think.

1188
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: That is the perfect place to wrap this one up. Guys.

1189
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: This weekend is the wrath A Grand Prix and you

1190
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: can catch it all live on Fox Sports and care

1191
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: Sports Plus. Keep up to date with all the latest

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1193
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: every platform, and if you want to read some of

1194
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 1: Matt's articles that we spoke about, you can do so

1195
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: on foxsports dot com, dot au, Forward Slash Motorsport. But

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Speaker 1: from Matt Clayton and myself, Rinita Vermullen, We're going to

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Speaker 1: be back real soon with more Moto GP pit talk,