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Speaker 1: That is veteran Australian actor, children's book author. I hate

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Speaker 1: show eight and Nicodemo was here today. Thirty one years

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Speaker 2: I wasn't there there I was, but I met her

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00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 2: though prior to me being on Home and Away because

434
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,199
Speaker 2: I danced with the Young Talent Team. I didn't go

435
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 2: to Cyprus one year because my I got to dance

436
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,400
Speaker 2: with the Young Talent Team and so it.

437
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 1: Was like a family yearly thing. It would go there back.

438
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 2: Then, Tim, Yeah, well no, yes, sometimes we would, yeah,

439
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 2: but yeah, but yes, yes, yes, home country. I'm terrible

440
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 2: that everything just sounds Indian.

441
00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 1: They did, they because order is for jan to. They

442
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 1: are they kind of people that come back with stuff

443
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 1: in the suitcase, like pre bater security, you know, like

444
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 1: you just can't get good domardes here.

445
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mum brought back some hullam. Yeah, but but she

446
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 2: said that because it's all crive acted. It's okay.

447
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: We've got it like it's cheese. We've got cassava in

448
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 1: our garden that grow out of a cutting. Don't ask

449
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 1: me how. It's all right. It came from some auntie.

450
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 2: Somewhere, and you know, and for some reason, my auntie

451
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 2: has had mangoes over in Cyprus, like he's going on,

452
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 2: just like going, huh, doesn't seem like a European fruit.

453
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 2: The mango is pretty yeah.

454
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 1: And they're not hard. They are hard seeds to hide.

455
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 1: Mango seed is yeah. So the annual going to Cyprus

456
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 1: and you're like, I don't want to do it.

457
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: I didn't do that because I was going to meet

458
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 2: the Young Talent team and I was like, I love

459
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 2: I loved Danny, but I really love claim And so

460
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 2: I met Danny and the whole time was like, I

461
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 2: love your sister. I love your sister so much. I've

462
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 2: got three hundred and sixty five posters of your sister.

463
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 2: I've got every seven inch, I've got twelve inch. I'm

464
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 2: like talking about Kylie the whole time. And Danny was

465
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 2: so lovely. She was so lovely. Yeah, so she but

466
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 2: when she was on Young TWN times, she was my favorite.

467
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 2: And then there was Vinnie Vinnie don Tito.

468
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 1: It was I did a whole podcast with Danny, yes,

469
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,199
Speaker 1: just the other week, because I really wanted people to

470
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: know that Danny, that I know who is the person

471
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 1: Like it's no, you don't accidentally remain very employed and

472
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 1: super relevant since you're eight. It's a deliberate thing. And

473
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 1: the way she handles herself in professional sense, I wish,

474
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: I want, I just want to be her on set. Yeah, yeah,

475
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 1: like so professional. Yeah, never met anyone that she's a machine.

476
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: She's amazing, isn't it.

477
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: That's the top of the fucking mountain, right, But both

478
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: of them. If you're an asshole, you generally don't get

479
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: fired in this game, but you just don't get hired again.

480
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you do like a few times, but eventually

481
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: it just gets around. The industry is way too small

482
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 2: and we work way too hard to deal with dickheads. Yeah,

483
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 2: like home and away that the dickheads don't last long.

484
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: They go straight away. Yeah, there's no time for them,

485
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 2: which makes sense.

486
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: Like so when you meet Hemsworth, you're like, all, of course,

487
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: you're just delightful.

488
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 2: I know, I know, Yeah, Chris, so I can't look.

489
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 1: At you because you're like an eclipse, so handsome.

490
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 2: Do you know? He stayed over at our place, like

491
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: I don't know a couple of weeks or two days.

492
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 2: He was about to go overseas to go to La

493
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 2: and he was like, you know, I'm want to go

494
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 2: to La I'm going to make it big, and I

495
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: did the whole Chris, It's just not going to happen.

496
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, buddy, how many people go over there,

497
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 2: they don't make it.

498
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 1: Six weeks later, six weeks got start.

499
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: I look at him, now, I got that one wrong. Yeah,

500
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: but they're nicest guy.

501
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I learned. Most I learned about your workplace

502
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: was from someone who worked with a Channel V for

503
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: a long time. She's now one of the greatest directors

504
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: on Earth. Jet Wilkins Jenny Yes together for years. Yeah.

505
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: I learned so much about her, and I love to

506
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: talk about her story because it's this moment of you know,

507
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: we talked about what gets you out the door and

508
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: what gets you there. Yet. I think from when the

509
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,199
Speaker 1: ages shift of fifteen or sixteen, she called Channel seven

510
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 1: their receptionist every day saying, Wow, are there any jobs

511
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: on Home and Away? And the receptionist went no, and

512
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: she called the next day jobs on. She did this

513
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: for two years, no way, and then at seventeen and

514
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: she was seventeen, they went, I'll just come and read

515
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: some scripts. Yeah, And then she came in and she

516
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: was seventeen. She was still going she came in and

517
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: she read some scripts. She ended up directing five hundred

518
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 1: and fifty episodes and I don't know how many episodes.

519
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 2: And and she was because when I first started, she

520
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 2: was doing continuity.

521
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 1: That's probably that's how she went from script continuity and

522
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: she was directing and in the States just making the

523
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: most amazing one of the most powerful female directors planning. Yeah,

524
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 1: this is what I'm doing. Yeah.

525
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 2: I think that's really important. And I don't know how

526
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 2: you instill that into your kids. I talked to Jonas

527
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 2: about this stuff all the time and following through and

528
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 2: you know, and like having a dream and persisting in

529
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 2: that dream as well, because it's not just luck. Like

530
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: you've got to work hard for things. Yeah, that's amazing.

531
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: Won't get you in the door? Yeah yeah, but it doesn't.

532
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: There's no momentum in it.

533
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, there isn't. It's hard work. And

534
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 2: I do think probably luck got me in the door.

535
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 2: But I was that kid that watched the show and

536
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 2: when I can do I'm going to go on an

537
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: audition and I'm going to go and do this.

538
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: Now you're the kid that goes, oh yeah, young, I

539
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: can do that. Yeah, I can write a bunch of them.

540
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 1: Let's go. And because it's a big deal to sit

541
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: down and call yourself an author.

542
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well same, especially.

543
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: Well i'm writing my own stories. I'm doing another one.

544
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: I've got a deadline next week. But it's to be

545
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 1: able to because the risk is quite high on on

546
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: your unteen kind of literature. You got super careful what

547
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: you're right, Yeah, there's a it's wild ride. There's always

548
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: strict protocols and ethical boundaries around publishing for that age group.

549
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: But you can just put whatever you like online.

550
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well again this is why we need restrictions online.

551
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. I had an idea I do

552
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: a start of the show, start of the year, I

553
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: do a podcast about ideas for the year. And that's

554
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: what idea a bunch of years ago that instead of

555
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: putting it on the companies, the social media companies, the handset,

556
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: the phone, the iPad, whatever is age locked, all right,

557
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: So when you give it to the kid, you type

558
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: in the age of the person that owns it and

559
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 1: at the at the device end, that's where it passes up.

560
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: So they can just feed you whatever you want. Yeah,

561
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: you know whoever they like YouTube, you name it Netflix.

562
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: You don't have to do any childbox because it's like

563
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: nutt at this at this age. Yeah, that stuff doesn't

564
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: get seen and that's it.

565
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: But do you think, because you know, companies make a

566
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 2: lot of money from children from teens, that that's going

567
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: to happen? Do you know what I mean? Like, I

568
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 2: don't think capitalism is going to let that happen because

569
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: I don't even let him, like even with games like

570
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 2: he plays FIFA and he plays Formula one, but they

571
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 2: have to be age appropriate. Yeah, you know, he was

572
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: trying to play well, they're shooting him up one that

573
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 2: everyone plays anyway, I'm like, how old do you need

574
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: to be? Sixteen?

575
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: Ten? Is there a chat room going?

576
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? So I'm being strict with him now, but going

577
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 2: be able to stop him for it?

578
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: How do I know what he's.

579
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: Doing when I'm not there? That's the thing, you know.

580
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: We face the same with Jay. It's just like, how

581
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: do you just show them their own worth and help

582
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: them them to make great decisions when you're not around?

583
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 2: Essentially, Yeah, well you have to explain things to them,

584
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 2: don't you you know, And I do do that. I

585
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: try and explain why I'm making this decision and you know,

586
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 2: but he's sorry.

587
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: My job is to make sure it's eighteen alive and

588
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: out of jail. Sorry.

589
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: And I worry once he gets you know, once he

590
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: gets into a car with like you know, other sixteen

591
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: year old seventeen year old boys, like what happens.

592
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: Then that's the thing. I've been a teenage boy. Yeah. Yeah,

593
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: it's a very different thing when you're suddenly ten kiler's

594
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: fifteen kilos bigger than you were six months ago. You've

595
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: got all this physical power, but you still got the

596
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: brain of a child. You don't realize you can actually

597
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: hurt someone proper. Yeah, and if you, you know, are

598
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: unable to deal with it when you're having a bad

599
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: day or anger or something like that, you can make

600
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: it just a dumb mistake and really get yourself into trouble. Yeah.

601
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

602
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: And you know, in some parts of Australia get tried

603
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: as an adult, which is fucking fucked yeah, as a criminallogy. Yes,

604
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: some parts of Australia criminal age just ten what yeah

605
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: are you?

606
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: I did not know that? That is crazy?

607
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: It's absolutely what. That is crazy. But you want to

608
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: you want to be tough on crime. You know, people

609
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: are sick of children breaking into their cash, trying to

610
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: lock on my right. It's fucked. It's so fucked you

611
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: run out of prisons, you know. It's it's it's literally

612
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: like you're trying to put out a bush fire with

613
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: a water pistol by that point. Yeah, it's you know,

614
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: you've got to get in earlier. And it's interventions as

615
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,719
Speaker 1: a mom of a young boy though, like do you

616
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: look at what masculinity is in society? Do you try

617
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: to go, Am I going to make you a man? That? Yeah,

618
00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: is going to be valuable in the world?

619
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look at it and it's monkey see not

620
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: monkey do? Like, you know, it's really important. And I

621
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: talked to him about it all the time, about being

622
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: respectful to women, you know, all that sort of stuff.

623
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,239
Speaker 2: But I can see that, like I have to make

624
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: a point of you know, because I'll get up and

625
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: clean the dishes, for example. He'll be sitting down. Do

626
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: I get up, buddy?

627
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: I okay?

628
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: You know, like all that sort of stuff. You know,

629
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: it's ingrained in them, isn't it like to be men?

630
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: But I think, yeah, I talked Hi about it all

631
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: the time. I talk about his feelings We do gem

632
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: every night. So we do gratitude, empathy, mindfulness. I got

633
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: that from.

634
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: World Yeah we started, Yeah yeah.

635
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: So he talks about his feelings a lot.

636
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: Tell me take me through that. What does that look like? Okay,

637
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: if I wanted to do this exercise is my kids?

638
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: What does it look like?

639
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: So and so we're in bed, tacking him in and like, so,

640
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: what are you grateful for? Buddy? And it could be

641
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: you know, I'm grateful that I scored three goals today.

642
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: A great empathy it's about someone else. So you know,

643
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: I empathize with you, mum, because you're really tired. Mindful.

644
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: You know, I'm mindful that it's year six and you

645
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: know I'm going to miss my friends. You know, I'm

646
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: going to go into a new school, whatever it is.

647
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: So we do that every night, and I think through

648
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: that we've had some great conversation because that's when because

649
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: I've got him there, So I'm having some great conversations.

650
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: The other thing, I've just realized because I don't I

651
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: don't like him sitting in the front seat because he's

652
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: so little. But the other day.

653
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, you know, can I see I'm.

654
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: Legally a loud and please everyone else is in the

655
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: front seat. We had the best conversations because he was

656
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: right there in the front seat, and I'm going to

657
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: do this more often.

658
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: That's where you get.

659
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we started talking about you know, those moments

660
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: in life when you think you're going to be happy

661
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: and you're not happy, and he goes, I had one

662
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: mom because we won the Grand Final. I thought that

663
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: that's the thing that I wanted most was the Grand Final.

664
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: But you know, I felt like I play that well,

665
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: and you know, so we do all of those sort

666
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: of conversations, but I think it's really how do you

667
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: model him still being a man?

668
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

669
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the difficult part because we all have our

670
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: strengths and I don't think you can take pride away

671
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: from a man, just like you can't take pride away

672
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: from a woman, you know. And I think it's a

673
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: really difficult one, I think. And the fact is he

674
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 2: has friends that have gone to see Andrew Tate. Now

675
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: I've sat down, I know, like, yeah at that age, yeah, yeah,

676
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 2: so I've had to sit down with him and talk

677
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: to him about that. Now that behavior doesn't happen at home,

678
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: you know, like I'm not treated like that or he

679
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 2: you know, but he's got friends.

680
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: It's a city, it is. The sport thing is really

681
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: good though, that I think so really important because there's

682
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: a so one. Men don't talk face to face. Men

683
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: talk shoulder to shoulder. So and the other thing is

684
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: if you if you our brains only work on pamisphere,

685
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: for we are said injury. But if we're walking, both

686
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: of our parts of our brains work. Our brains are

687
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: actually different. Science has shown it. Yes, men and women's

688
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: brains are different. I know, right, no way, So hang on,

689
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: if you're standing.

690
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: Still, only one side of your brain is the work left.

691
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: One, So the one where the speech centers don't really

692
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: work that well. They work, but just not that well

693
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: all right, particularly if you're being engaged. If you want

694
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: to have a conversation, get a moving go for wark.

695
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: That is amazing, and don't look them in the eye. Yeah,

696
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: men don't talk, you know. Let me tell you about

697
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: my feelings. No, that's why. Let let your man go

698
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: play golf, have someone come over and work on the car,

699
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: do whatever, because that's when the stuff, that's when the

700
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: chat happens, that's when the interesting taken for a walk. Yeah,

701
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: it's really it's really important. And that time in the car,

702
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's real proper. It was so great, good. Yeah,

703
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: it was such a great day.

704
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we had like the funniest conversations because when

705
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: he's in the back, he's just playing music through the

706
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: car and he's not talking and he's like looking down

707
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: at my phone looking at the lyrics. So annoying.

708
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: The other thing that's interesting about men's brains women as well.

709
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: But I know this for sure about men is that

710
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: when we're in that kind of mid teens, we're actually

711
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: programmed to seek out a man that's around the age

712
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: that a father would be. But isn't our dad, all right, Now,

713
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: that could be a neighbor for me, it was my uncle.

714
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: It can be the coach of the footy team. And

715
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: it could also be some guy on Instagram or YouTube

716
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: with some pretty questionable views and we're programmed for that.

717
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: We're program to seek mentorship, all right. So it's making

718
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: sure that person is around and kind of knowing that

719
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: they're going to start doing that, just keeping an eye

720
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: on I can see who it is, all right.

721
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: We might have to, Yeah, And I'm pretty open with

722
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: him about talking about a lot of stuff as well,

723
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: And we've been talking about sort of all the stranger dangers,

724
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: like from the moment moment I can remember, we don't

725
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: do secrets either, So yeah, I'm going to tell a

726
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 2: secret Jones.

727
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: No, we never.

728
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: We don't use that word secret. Someone told me once

729
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: that that's how like pedophiles groom children. I don't know

730
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: it's true, but it's just stuck with it. Sounds it's

731
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 2: stuck with me now, So yeah, I don't so it's

732
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: a real thing with me. I won't let anyone say

733
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: that word to him, you know, respecting your body, respecting yourself.

734
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: No means no, No means no at every point, every point.

735
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: And I talked fro him about that stuff as well.

736
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: I to explain a brothel to him the other day. Yeah,

737
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 2: someone at the wedding said something about it. Brothel. Goes,

738
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 2: what's a brothel? Um, hmmm, it's a place where you

739
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 2: go and have sex. He goes, Oh, okay.

740
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: With people look at it, You're like, oh, this is delicious.

741
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 2: Because it was literally at the table, so there's twelve

742
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: of us at the table. Mom, what's a brother like?

743
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well works works on it's the oldest job there is, yeah.

744
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 2: Look at you know, and they're needed, they're needed, needed, Yeah,

745
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: they're needed. And you're going to find out at some

746
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: point son so important job. Yeah yeah, but you're always

747
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: having to answer those questions at the weirdest time.

748
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: It's going to come. Yeah, actually, got to get in there.

749
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: But you can't say, I tell you, lady, you can't

750
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: avoid it.

751
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 3: Well.

752
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: No. The other thing I've learned to do because I'm

753
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: one of those people. If you haven't noticed Wright, just

754
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: like talk and then think later. And I used to

755
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 2: do that a lot with him, and I just say

756
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: the dumbest shit back to him. If you ask me

757
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: a question, now, I go, that's a really interesting question.

758
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: Let me have a think about it, and I'll get

759
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 2: back to you because I want to give you a

760
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: great answer, like because otherwise I'm like, you know, just

761
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 2: just like you know, so sort of like just you know,

762
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 2: Shuffley trying to think of something.

763
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: You just watched an episode of Grizzy and I'm just

764
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: going to sprint in there and read my Maggie Dent book.

765
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: I'll be right back.

766
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: Basically, I am I on Google figuring it out. Yeah.

767
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like shit, like.

768
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, because my mom never spoke about this stuff,

769
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: you know. So I'm just I'm flying solo here. I've

770
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: got no idea.

771
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: My mum worked as a doctor, you know, as I mentioned,

772
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: she was a GP and early on when she had retrained,

773
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: they start them in state health, all right, and she's

774
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: shield a placement and family practice in a part of Sydney,

775
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: part of Brisbane where they shot Boycewallows Universe. So it's

776
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: there in the eighties, that's where that's rough. Yeah yeah,

777
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: and she came home. Yeah, right, mum, I had to

778
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: explain to a fourteen year old girl how she got pregnant,

779
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: and she was pregnant like like three four months ow,

780
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: she was fourteen, and she didn't know how it happened.

781
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah.

782
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: Like so you've got to have the chat as uncomfortable.

783
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 2: It was the converse, yeah, no, yeah, yeah, and look

784
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: at it. It is uncomfortable for me. I'm not going

785
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: to lie it's uncomfortable, but I'm happily sitting in the

786
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: uncomfortableness because i have to.

787
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm lucky that Yumie Steins is in my life, and

788
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: she's written heaps of books on this stuff. That's good.

789
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: And she's got four kids and she has no problem Yeah,

790
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: showing you and telling you exactly what you need to say,

791
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: because the research is proven that the more you talk

792
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: about it, the better protected. Yeah, your kids are.

793
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: And I always say, I don't want you to learn

794
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: about sex and your body in the playground. Ask me,

795
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: ask me whatever it is. Ask me, because I will

796
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: give you the right answer. Or if I don't know it,

797
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: I'll go and find out. But you know, the kid

798
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: in the playground isn't going to know. That's not where

799
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 2: you learn about, you know, sexual education. Absolutely not.

800
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: You didn't go there. You didn't go there in these books,

801
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: but you did put a bunch of stuff out there

802
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: that I think it's really lovely for other kids who

803
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: have had a similar upbringing to you about not exactly

804
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: you know, the same. I'm very similar to other people,

805
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: but there's parts of my things in my family that

806
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: nobody else does. Yeah, my lunchbox smells like nobody else's lunchbox.

807
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: I guarantee that mine did not. I don't know what

808
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: my parents like. Oh really like ox tongue and lard.

809
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: It's thirty six degrees in Brisbane, but this is the

810
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: only food they know, so this is what we're eating. Like, guys,

811
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: come on, man, do you.

812
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: Know I can top you?

813
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 1: Yeah?

814
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: Okay. So because I grew up in Minto so in Campbelltown,

815
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've been to.

816
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: I don't know where it is I am.

817
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: So it's always a little bit like it's always about

818
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: five degrees hotter right than sitting. So it's this really

819
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: really hot day and we wanted to go to macquaria

820
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 2: Field's public pool. We're begging, mum, it's forty five come

821
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: on please please? Okay, if you eat the brain soup,

822
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: you can go what brain soup? Cutting up? You're eating

823
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: brains soup? And so like could you imagine like we

824
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: were vomiting, like we was awful. She made us eat

825
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 2: the whole thing and then we went to the pool.

826
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, as my mom would say, oh on the farm,

827
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: you don't waste any of it. This is but in

828
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: the same age, we don't need to eat this. It's

829
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: perfectly fine. Yeah, come on, you don't want to have it?

830
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: Are you going to finish that trotter? Could I have

831
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: that trotter?

832
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: Oh? But you know what in saying that, I feel

833
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 2: bad now because my mom used to spend a lot

834
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: of time making my lunch box and beautiful, beautiful food.

835
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 2: And I just turned up to school and I just

836
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: got to all the other kids and some of my food,

837
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: have my food. I just want to go and eat

838
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: a yummy drummy. I just want to go and have

839
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: a meat pie. Like, were you the same?

840
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: Oh?

841
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 2: I was like so embarrassed about my lunchbox.

842
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know thee sleep cheese came in individually

843
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: wrapped slices. It took quite a lot later or the

844
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: bread could be other than black.

845
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 2: But then I remember seeing this whole Devon and Tomato

846
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: sauce thing. I'm like, what is this Divon and tomato sauce?

847
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: My mom? I want Devon and tomato sauce? You want Devon?

848
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: And Okay, she goes and she makes it for me.

849
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 2: That is disgusting. Have you had Devon in.

850
00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: To my long time ago?

851
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: It's disgusting.

852
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

853
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: So I'm happily having presudo and hallumi, you know, like

854
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 2: you're a beautiful leg ham and all that sort of stuff.

855
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: But yeah, like it's yeah, I think these days kids

856
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: do know more about other cultures, but back then they didn't.

857
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: So it's good to be able to put that up

858
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: and it's very sweet of you to throw some recipes

859
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: in there.

860
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, the kids can make those. Yeah, this is like

861
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: everything has Hallumi basically through it.

862
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: My first boss when I was Alroady, actually it was

863
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: my second boss when I was already he was He

864
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: was great and from like proper like Brisbane, like you know,

865
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: we were the first.

866
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 3: Year you know that kind of thing, but we were

867
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: the first guys. Yeah, it was great and like so

868
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: I got introduced a lot of that kind of food

869
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: on which was pretty good. Like as Briggs the Rapper says,

870
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 3: like he's a great line about immigration, it's like, you know,

871
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: it's important that we have our borders, but don't mess

872
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 3: with my food court.

873
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: Don't talk with my flavors. Man. I want to get

874
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: I want to get around it. I want to get

875
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: amongst it. That's what's so good about Australia.

876
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you travel overseas and you don't get that,

877
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 2: like when you're in Europe, Like when you're in it,

878
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: you're eating Italian food and when I guess.

879
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: I can't find the delightful fur anywhere, but here you can't.

880
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: I could touch my phone and have five different dudes.

881
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah, get that Vietnamese flavor. You can, you absolutely can.

882
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and like and Greek food out because I

883
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: never see Greek food out because my mom makes the best.

884
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: But it's getting pretty good.

885
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: It's like my mother in law from Fiji, she's like, well,

886
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 1: do eat a curry out of the house?

887
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 2: Better carry and they do the I mean, I'm still

888
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: gonna say that my mom does.

889
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: Actually yeah yeah, yeah, and.

890
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: With desserts as well that my mom makes.

891
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: There's one place in Sydney that my mother in law

892
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: is like, actually, this is really good. Don't tell Auntie

893
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: opposite the Hopetown. Oh that's funny.

894
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: I take my mom like to all of these fancy

895
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: restaurants and she always complains, like nothing's really good. Do

896
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 2: you know what food she liked? Key? Of course you do, Mom,

897
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: Have you been a key so Hey's Like you know

898
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: the Three Hatted Restaurant. It's circular, right right, yeah, but

899
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: like it is like.

900
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: Like super like ninety dollars non drake kind of thing.

901
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: At least like at least yeah, I took my family

902
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,959
Speaker 2: there for a certain celebration when a certain X wasn't

903
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: in my life anymore. So it took them all there

904
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: open but rare, but I could. I'm like, okay, here

905
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: we go. Mum's go in a complain about this really

906
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 2: expensive mealshake. This is beautiful, beautiful food. Oh good mom,

907
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 2: Thank god, finally.

908
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: She was happy to see you happy.

909
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: Oh yes, okay, yes you probably vice.

910
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: Yeah that too. We do have to pay the bills here,

911
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: so thank you for listening to the commercials because that

912
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: helps us do that. Thanks for coming around and facts

913
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: one of these books are it's super cool that you

914
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: you know you did that?

915
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, proud of him.

916
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: Are you going to write stuff for young boys as well?

917
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: Well? I wanted to write stuff with Jonas actually because

918
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: Jonas is the reason why I got into it, because

919
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 2: Jonas used to write stories. He's superherous stories and he's

920
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: actually quite a good writer. So yeah, I think that's

921
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 2: I'd want to do something with him.

922
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: Work on the stories. Yeah, start yeah, now, yeah, it's like.

923
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: I take forever, don't they.

924
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's books. By the time he might be like

925
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: like fifteen and not care, but he's yeah, but by

926
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: the time you published this, that's going so what's next? Ye? Like, well,

927
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: look it this great one about starting high school. I

928
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: write with my son.

929
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: It's so true, isn't it. It's so true.

930
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: We're rereading the one about starting big school upstairs that

931
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: we got from the library. It's it's great.

932
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: Jonas is reading. Jonas reads like you know the Harry

933
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: Potters now and you know he's like a.

934
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: Very good reader, real important for you.

935
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very very important.

936
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

937
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

938
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: When I met my wife was like the first day

939
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: ever met her, trying to make up small talk. Do

940
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: you you see Game of Throws? It was like one

941
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: of those episodes. It wasn't a expriss to me. I

942
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: read all the books. Oh she's yeah, I'm here for this.

943
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: But you're right, Yeah, you're right.

944
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 2: And it's also it's such a personal time reading, you know,

945
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 2: you just get lost in a book. I love reading.

946
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah. I'm really slack at it at

947
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 2: the moment though, and I'm annoyed with myself because I've

948
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 2: got too much going on.

949
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: Do it after your gym you say you good, not

950
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: to your boy, they just bang.

951
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: That's when I usually do it. But I've been getting

952
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: into the TV, haven't I.

953
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. But The Old Man, which your Bridge is really good. Yeah,

954
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: it's really good.

955
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: And watch everything on Channel seven.

956
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: I'm honestly, I don't no, I don't think I have.

957
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: Well, Jimmy and I are into my kitchen rules and

958
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: the voice we're watching.

959
00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: That voice is a great format.

960
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: It is a great formatter, isn't it. Yeah, it is

961
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: a great formatt you to watch.

962
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: Australia's Nicest Man Abashinary Night. It's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah.

963
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: He is a good judge. He's a good judge.

964
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: He's all show business. I love. Yeah, he's great and

965
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: the nicest manuver.

966
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: He is the nicest man. Well, no, Larry is the

967
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 2: nicest man ever. Larry is the nicest man in television.

968
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: Then guy Larry is the hardest working manito.

969
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: Oh, I was just with him doing per telephone.

970
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's and you know what he did after that?

971
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: He went and go make sandwiches for somebody. You know

972
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: he was going to.

973
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: Get you know, he was going to option off his

974
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 2: LOGI yeah, without a doubt, Yeah, because he's that guy.

975
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. And he goes to me, how should

976
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 2: you think it's worse? The gold logo went a thousand

977
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: two thousand. Oh that I don't know, Basil, How I

978
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: should you think it's worth goes all right, two hundred thousand, and.

979
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: There you go.

980
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: It's like I just thought it was like I didn't

981
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 2: realize it was that much.

982
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: I think Scott cam put a bottle opener in the

983
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: bottle of hit in the bottom of his So if

984
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: his place for a study, that's actually the best. So

985
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: that's the best. Larry puts a bottle from the bottom

986
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: of it.

987
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: I might suggest that, Yeah, I'll suggest that. Yeah. We

988
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: unfortunately have to go to a funeral tomorrow. And it's

989
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: a crew member. He was a Grip. I actually knew

990
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: Brucie from Breakers, so like twenty five twenty six years ago,

991
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 2: and he passed away, and it's going to be and

992
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 2: every crew member's going. Everyone's going, like everyone's going because

993
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: we just we all love each other so much, everybody.

994
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: He was young. He was young though, yeah, but yeah, yeah,

995
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: but yes, yes, yeah, And when you.

996
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: Work with people for long enough, yeah, yeah, you'll be

997
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: around and people will have kids if you worried them

998
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: for long enough, like you start to care heap when

999
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: they're on there, and when you find out, oh they

1000
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: got sick or whatever, like it's shit, it's really and

1001
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: that happens, and there's that moment. I've been lucky enough

1002
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: to go to the Logis a few times and there's

1003
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: that moment where they show the black and white photos

1004
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: on the screen. Yeah, and then you might've only worked

1005
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: with him very briefly. But I mean, we're very fortunate

1006
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: as an industry to have that, because I'm sure there's

1007
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: people who work at insurance or account or travel that

1008
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: don't realize that Nora from Ala Dullah has passed away.

1009
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: But Laura from Ala Dualla used to send them five

1010
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: families every year. They got that much revenue into their

1011
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: little business about it, but they don't even realize it

1012
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: or that Laura's gone.

1013
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 2: You're so right, because I'm ashamed to say it because

1014
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: even when I'm looking at that sometimes I go, oh,

1015
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: I didn't know that he passed away.

1016
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: I didn't know she passed away.

1017
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 2: Like you do do that you look at far out

1018
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 2: you know that amazing director whoever sound engineer. I didn't

1019
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 2: know that they'd passed away. So it's it's such a

1020
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: lovely moment at the logis the I memoriam and I

1021
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: mean a bittersweet obviously, but it's but it's a nice

1022
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: moment for us all to just remember those who have passed.

1023
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: I also remember that when I die, I will just

1024
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: be an eight seconds of a black and white photo

1025
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: while Delta Goudron plays a piano all right, and a

1026
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: room full of people who have no idea who I

1027
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: am will just be.

1028
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 4: Like I really got a piss because it's always because

1029
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 4: it's always before an ad break, it's very hard to

1030
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 4: come back out of and then and that will literally

1031
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 4: be it, and well no, I like, but I have to.

1032
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: Have like then it just keeps you grounded, you absolutely, okay, all.

1033
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: Right, that's it. People will go I remember him, and

1034
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: then they move on, did you get here for the party?

1035
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: Like we're still doing bags? What's going to happen? Like

1036
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: that's what? And then people But.

1037
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: You know, it's because when you're younger, I don't know

1038
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 2: obviously a nasiless because I remember going, oh, you know,

1039
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 2: I wonder who's going to come to my funeral? When

1040
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: you think about it all? Did you ever think about

1041
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: that ship?

1042
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: I kind of. I think about my funeral quite a

1043
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,479
Speaker 1: bit now, Oh I don't.

1044
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 2: Now. I think it's more when I was younger, I

1045
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 2: used to just think about that stuff, like you know,

1046
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 2: who's going to give you? Really big. Is it going

1047
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 2: to reduce all that sort of stuff?

1048
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: I thought, God, who cares?

1049
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 2: Later like now I'm like, who cares?

1050
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't think about who is going to come. But

1051
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: I do try to live in a way, and now

1052
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: quite differently so previously when I was drinking and using

1053
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: not so much. But I do try to live in

1054
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: a way that I will at least try to have

1055
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: some influence on the things that people might say. I

1056
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: went to a funeral the other day and this person

1057
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: that I've known inn radio for long ninety six, right,

1058
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: and the stuff that person, the stuff that people said

1059
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: about this person was like when I turned to my

1060
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: mate who introduced me and him, and I said, this

1061
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: is the gold standard. You want how people to talk

1062
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: about you after you die. If you can live your

1063
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: life to have this happen, then you've lived a good life.

1064
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 2: I think that's what tomorrow is going to be as well.

1065
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 2: And I think it's probably going to be the biggest

1066
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: funeral I've ever been to. Now that's saying a lot

1067
00:50:55,719 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 2: because I'm Greek. Yeah yeah, but our funerals very depressing.

1068
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, But there was a thing about my guy

1069
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: played in a bandwidth for a long time the Greek

1070
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 1: and I was in Brisbane, so it was at the

1071
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: big Greek center there on Musgrave Road. And there was

1072
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: a thing about the Orthodox one with the really kind

1073
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: of spooky paintings on the walls. I mean, I thought

1074
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: that the Roman Catholic stuff that I mean, I a

1075
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: bat eleven when I went, yeah, this is wallshit. That

1076
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: wasn't for me, and that every school room that I

1077
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: was in at the school I went to was oh, no,

1078
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: this is fine. We've got to keep this kid safe,

1079
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: but we're going to have a four foot high statue

1080
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 1: of a man being tortured to death with blood coming

1081
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: out of him while he's nailed for a piece of

1082
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: wood in every room. Yeah that's good, isn't it. Kids?

1083
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was scared.

1084
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: I thought that was spooky. But the paintings on the

1085
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: walls in those churches is like rual.

1086
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 2: But also the priests, I mean they're all dressed in

1087
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 2: all that.

1088
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: I've known this guy for a very long time, and

1089
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: then we played in a band for a very long time,

1090
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: so I knew his family and his brothers and sisters.

1091
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: And at the end of the funeral, we were young,

1092
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: so I was twenty eight. I think twenty nine, so

1093
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: ten years since school. Family stood in front and every

1094
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 1: single person went up to them while they were standing

1095
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: there by the cars. I've never seen this at the

1096
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: funeral before. And they had the moment of like, I

1097
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 1: remember him and what I love about particularly the ritual,

1098
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: like that is it is it's put into ritual or

1099
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: there's a sacredness about it, so we don't forget to

1100
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: do it. But what later on I kind of realized,

1101
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: I see what they were doing. They got to see

1102
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: every person in this guy's life, and there was hundreds

1103
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: of people there and it took maybe two hours for

1104
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: this to happen, and the funeral was an hour and

1105
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 1: a half, so it was long. But by the time

1106
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: it was done, by the time the ear all four

1107
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: hundred and twelve people had stood in front of his

1108
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 1: mum and said how they felt about him, the family

1109
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: had gone from it being unable to speak or stand

1110
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: because they were sobbing so hard to laughing. And it

1111
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: was the whole journey and then it brought us to

1112
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 1: the after party. It all awake. But it was such

1113
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: a really beautiful thing that they had a purpose. Would

1114
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: they never would have ever had to guess what their son. Yeah,

1115
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 1: other people.

1116
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's lovely.

1117
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: Because I've not seen that to so willingly embrace the sadness.

1118
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: And people were there for five minutes, ten minutes, three

1119
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: hundred people behind me.

1120
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's very special. They're not all like that,

1121
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 2: they're not all like that, but that that's really we

1122
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 2: do definitely go up to the casket and sometimes it's open,

1123
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 2: yeah as well, and I'm not always depends on the family, Yeah,

1124
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 2: depending on.

1125
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, a car crash or something.

1126
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and you have your moment as well. But

1127
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 2: that's that's rare.

1128
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: It was beautiful.

1129
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 2: But have you been to a christening? Have you been

1130
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: to a Greek Orthodox critic?

1131
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: Tell me about christening?

1132
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 2: My mom gets so upset when I bring this up, okay,

1133
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 2: because my niece has got christened the other day, and

1134
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 2: I just I get so upset because, Okay, you're at

1135
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 2: the front of the church. Well for first one side

1136
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 2: of the church. You can't go anywhere your parents, So you're young.

1137
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: You're about five months old as well, so five months

1138
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 2: old really young. Like it's either probably your auntie or

1139
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 2: your mum's friend. Hold you baby with the stranger with

1140
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 2: the priest in all black singing, singing at you, and

1141
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: so you're already crying. You're hungry. My son had diarrhea,

1142
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 2: so that was always fun anyway. Then you go to

1143
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: the front of the church. Now you see your mom

1144
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 2: and dad. You're still screaming and shouting. They're not coming,

1145
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 2: they're not coming up to you. Then what you've got

1146
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: to do is some other ladies are going to come

1147
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 2: and grab you and they're going to strip you down naked,

1148
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 2: and then they're going to bring you back to the

1149
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: man now and the old man is going to dunk

1150
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: you in the water four times, the old manager and

1151
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 2: cuts your hair off and shove oil all over you.

1152
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 2: And you're squealing by this stage because you're nearly drowned.

1153
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: And then they come they change you into you the

1154
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 2: christening gear, and then you go back to the lady

1155
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: or whoever's christening you, and you just get sung to

1156
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,479
Speaker 2: some more. You still can't go to your mum and dad.

1157
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 2: And then when it's over, then mom comes up and

1158
00:54:58,760 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: that goes for an hour.

1159
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 1: What was that like for you to see that happen

1160
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:02,959
Speaker 1: to your son.

1161
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 2: It's awful, it's awful, and and you know all the

1162
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 2: Greeks out there are going to like hate me now,

1163
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:13,919
Speaker 2: but I'm sorry to change. It's so distressing and all

1164
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 2: of us in the audience but in the church watching

1165
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 2: it going but I was just bawling.

1166
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: It's awful to see that. Yeah, so I think they

1167
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 1: cut the hair off. You don't know what that's about.

1168
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: Is it just the lock or does it get the

1169
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: clippers out?

1170
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 2: It's just the locking, all right, they're not going yeah, yeah,

1171
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 2: but some great kids do have a.

1172
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: Lot of hair, get their little NRL moment.

1173
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 2: But it's you're distressed and then you don't get like

1174
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 2: the babies for the whole day are just like they're red,

1175
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 2: they're grumpy, they've gone through trauma.

1176
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: It's awful.

1177
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 2: It's allful. If you can YouTubers, you should have a

1178
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 2: look at it.

1179
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. How did we get onto this, I don't know,

1180
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: but it's a part of what makes our country amazing

1181
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: is that always riches and things. Because if you're in Greece,

1182
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: as far as you're concerned, that's a christen So if

1183
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: you're here and you have something to contextualize it against. Yeah, man,

1184
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 1: about this, guys.

1185
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:22,240
Speaker 2: Are you I went to a Catholic church on Saturday

1186
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 2: for a wedding. So you know that was completely different

1187
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 2: to a Greek wedding that was really lovely, really well

1188
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 2: because it was different, well because also understood what the

1189
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 2: priest was saying. That's what I mean, because the Greek

1190
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 2: Orthodox that they're singing and you don't, you're understanding, and

1191
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 2: I like, sort of, I mean, I don't know what

1192
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: you think of religion saying good good.

1193
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: If you're in the game to make some coin, it's

1194
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 1: pretty good.

1195
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 2: It gives people hope, sure, and and you know it's

1196
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 2: not my thing, but and you know, I I do

1197
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 2: like the idea of marriage though, and I'd do it again.

1198
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 2: But you know, just seeing the woman up there with

1199
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 2: the big dress, and then she had to take the

1200
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: man's name, and because the priest automatically just said wow, yeah, yeah,

1201
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 2: the man's name, I thought, oh, okay, like it's haven't

1202
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 2: we moved on from this religion?

1203
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: And I guess got her name. She's got a perfectly

1204
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: fine name. She doesn't he my name.

1205
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: Well, I haven't even changed mind back yet, and I've

1206
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 2: been divorced for like nineteen years. I've got to do it.

1207
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 2: It's so anyway, it's you want.

1208
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: To talk about how hard name changes are I'm your man, actually,

1209
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: but in two countries it's hard. It's hard, isn't it,

1210
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: because you have to go no, I'm seriously, I'm not

1211
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: running away from something. I promise you as a woman.

1212
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: Way easier, way, yeah, because you can literally just tick

1213
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: a box. And so I've been divorced and they're fine

1214
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: with it.

1215
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: So you've got to ring up. You're going to bring

1216
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 2: up the places though.

1217
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: It's way. I had to kind of prove I did

1218
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: to get police checks and promise no, I really that

1219
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: would be hard convicted of something. Yeah, in about the

1220
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: country and I'm not running away from something, sus Yeah.

1221
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: You're right, Yeah, Mind's the name. Minds is the last name,

1222
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 2: and I'm going back to the name.

1223
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: But I had before you ever been to Darwin? No,

1224
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: you meet people in Darwen, he say, hey, but you

1225
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: watching John how he lived here nine months? All right,

1226
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: So some shit's gone down in Adelaide. Nobody knows you're here. Yeah,

1227
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: And as long as the bike is that fight, everything's

1228
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: going to be just fine. There's a lot of people

1229
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: who got there on a one way jet. Stay.

1230
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they have.

1231
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1232
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually the only sad trip territory.

1233
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: I haven't been to. Man, it's great. You've got to

1234
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 1: go again.

1235
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 2: I was only just talking about that. I'd like to

1236
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 2: go downe but you only go for like a couple

1237
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 2: of days loving, right, you don't need if.

1238
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: You want, like, yeah, it's what's amazing about it is

1239
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: that you can experience like proper, proper wilderness unlike anywhere

1240
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: else in the world, without the threat of a militia

1241
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: hiding in the jungle with it's like real legit remote

1242
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: dangerous isolation, without the yeah you know hill kind of rebels. Yeah,

1243
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: parts of South America and Africa, in Africa, which is

1244
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: part of the course. But yeah, it's pretty great, right,

1245
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: you've got to Food's great, people are great. Yeah, it's

1246
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: fun and.

1247
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 2: It's quite multicultural, right Yeah, yeah it's great. Yeah.

1248
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: Ever had a dragon fruit?

1249
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 2: Yeah? I did not have one in Thailand Darwin. Yeah, yeah,

1250
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: it was great.

1251
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a thanks for coming. I'm going to get

1252
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: you out of here at school pick up. My boy

1253
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: is going to it's pizza night Friday night, so he's

1254
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: going to come around and which is that too. He's

1255
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: literally he's just turned five and he ate six eighths

1256
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: of a family size Hawaiian the other day. You know.

1257
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: That makes me really jealous because my son is like this,

1258
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 2: like his stick thin, and I'm like Greek mom eats

1259
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 2: eat always.

1260
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I always say, you know, in the Olympic

1261
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: eight hundred, you don't know who's coming first into the

1262
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: last fifty meters because I don't know I'm corner three.

1263
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: Someone's over here, like look at the morning. No, they're

1264
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: actually the one. It's kids like that man.

1265
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, I know he will he will ye

1266
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 2: when he's active.

1267
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll just.

1268
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 2: Like complam yeah. And then I can't wait, so like

1269
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 2: I can't stop buying food. They're like, I have to fill.

1270
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: The second fridge.

1271
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh and I've already got the second bridge. Great,

1272
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 2: got second fridge.

1273
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the deep freeze and then there's the other

1274
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: the smoker in the back. Oh, thank you so thanks

1275
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: for coming around, mate. It was so much fun. And

1276
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: that was Aida Nicodemo. You can find her brand new books.

1277
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: It's a trilogy. At first. I'm sure there's going to

1278
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: be way more Me and Megastar. You can find it

1279
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: wherever the book's are sold.

1280
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 2: You know.

1281
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: There's also a link in the show notes as well

1282
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: as a link to the sub stack, which is where

1283
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm speaking of writing. I'm writing things more and more

1284
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: and that's where you can find them there. Thank you

1285
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: so much for getting around it. Thank you for everybody

1286
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: to help me make the show today. Thank you Andy

1287
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: Mar on audio post production. You can go to find

1288
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Speaker 1: him at andy mar dot com for all your audio

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Speaker 1: post needs. Bex A did video post production. Abby Beno

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Speaker 1: produced this episode. Monica Chapman is my executive function assistant.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening. I'll see you Monday.