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Speaker 1: Jason Lauren on number one hundred right across Melbourne. This

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Speaker 1: is number one hundred or We love chatting with experts

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Speaker 1: on this show, and this lady is one of them.

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Speaker 1: She is a mum of two and she is astrayed

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Speaker 1: first female astronaut.

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Speaker 2: The experts with Jason Lauren your vessel specialists who specialize

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Speaker 2: in very special things.

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Speaker 3: I am fashion and I'm Australia's first female astronaut.

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Speaker 4: Let's see from the expert Catherine.

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Speaker 5: Good morning, dare I say the coolest mum in Australia.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me on. It's great to be here.

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, we're so excited. I am fascinated and

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Speaker 6: equally terrified about space.

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Speaker 4: What terrifies you about space? Are they aliens?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Jesus God, here we here we go.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I think they walk among us, but you know

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Speaker 3: I don't think that they do.

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Speaker 7: Please don't encourage her. Okay, So you are a fully

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Speaker 7: qualified astronaut who and do I get this right?

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Speaker 4: Is now literally just waiting for assignment basically.

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Speaker 3: So once you finished the basic astronaut training like I

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Speaker 3: just did, you can call yourself an astronaut. So that

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Speaker 3: means you're ready for assignment to the International Space Station

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Speaker 3: or the Moon is a professional government astronaut.

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Speaker 4: There's about one hundred of.

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Speaker 3: Us that are active globally, which is pretty amazing. But

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Speaker 3: I've entered what's called pre mission assignment phase, which is

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Speaker 3: where you keep your training up, you keep fit and healthy,

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Speaker 3: you get out into schools and you know, inspire kids

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Speaker 4: You have a day job.

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Speaker 3: And my day job will be back at the Australian

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Speaker 3: Space Agency using my space engineering skills.

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Speaker 6: Would you have any idea where you're going, Like, do

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Speaker 6: you go somewhere or do you just fly around in space?

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Speaker 3: The main destination for astronauts today in space is called

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Speaker 3: the International Space Station.

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Speaker 4: It's a huge space station. It's the size of a

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Speaker 3: Usually there's seven or more astronauts on it at any time,

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Speaker 3: and it's full of scientific labs basically to look at

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Speaker 7: So let's say you're working at the International Space Station, right,

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Speaker 7: this might seem like stupid question, but is it like

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Speaker 7: a normal working week, Like you get two days off

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Speaker 7: and what are you what do you do at the

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Speaker 4: In a way.

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Speaker 3: So if you're on like a two week mission, you

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Speaker 3: is like doing science and then you kind of sleep

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Speaker 3: when you return to Earth and away. But for the

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Speaker 4: So it's something akin to a working day.

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Speaker 3: You know. You wake up floating in your little kind

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Speaker 3: you have a daily call with ground, and then you

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Speaker 3: get to work and you have this schedule. It's kind

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Speaker 3: of like it reminds me of you know, when you

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Speaker 4: You got to keep up with the red line of

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Speaker 4: your experiments day. And also you'll have a couple of.

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Speaker 3: Hours in the gym on board, You'll have some calls

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Speaker 3: message about you know, environmental awareness and the importance of that,

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Speaker 7: Quickly on the call to the family. I imagine it'd

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Speaker 7: Mum and dad would be like, did you hear the Beaties?

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Speaker 4: That's another dollar week something like that.

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Speaker 3: It's definitely not as simple as just you know, picking

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Speaker 4: But you usually have a video call your.

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Speaker 3: every day if you want, which is really important. A

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Speaker 6: So this might be a dumb question, but we know

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Speaker 6: on like rocket ships, we see the astronauts floating around

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Speaker 6: and there zero gravity on the space station, is that

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Speaker 3: Not dumb, So basically, yeah, you're floating around the whole

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Speaker 6: Basically you're in like a phone box bed.

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Speaker 3: Well basically, if you're up there for more than a month,

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Speaker 3: Some astronauts like they really struggle to sleep that way,

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Speaker 3: so they'll jam themselves into a corner, you know how,

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Speaker 3: space is like the opposite, Like your body isn't touching anything.

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Speaker 3: So people will bring like elastics to try and get

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Speaker 7: Enough to get the way to blanket. I got it

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Speaker 4: You don't have to take that. It's weightless in space. Right,

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Speaker 4: How does that.

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Speaker 2: Catherine? This is every kid's sort of dream, you know.

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Speaker 2: For me, I had glowzone on the roof of my bedroom. Right,

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Speaker 2: we're always thinking dreaming about what it's like in space.

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Speaker 2: You're thirty nine, you've got two kids, you've your own

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Speaker 2: What do they think, mum's an astronaut.

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Speaker 3: I think they think it's pretty great. Like they love

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Speaker 3: But they're so young. Was kind of normal, they were

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Speaker 3: it's you know, they're young enough, their mum being an

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Speaker 3: a lot of their mates at their school over there

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Speaker 3: their parents were flowing astronauts, so you know, they were

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Speaker 3: But it's still a fun adventure obviously.

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Speaker 7: So I was just going to say, you've done all

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Speaker 7: you know, let's be honest, it's it's bloody dangerous. There's

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Speaker 7: With what movies don't you watch?

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Speaker 4: I watch all the movies, but you know it is sobering.

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Speaker 4: The risks of spaceflight are real.

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Speaker 3: The design risk for a mission and to end is

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Speaker 4: You mean, you don't sniff at that.

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Speaker 3: But that's why we go up there to do important work,

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Speaker 3: so for me, like that's that's the reason to go

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Speaker 3: I know pressure on him should I go. But those teams,

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Speaker 3: you know, space engineers and scientists involved in these endeavors,

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Speaker 3: it is a huge team effort. Everyone's really dedicated and

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Speaker 5: We are chatting with the expert of space this morning.

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Speaker 5: That's right, Catherine is a mum of two in Australia's

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Speaker 5: first official astronauts. Are we going to continue our chat

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Speaker 5: on the other side of this, Captaine, I do have

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Speaker 5: a question coming out that's it's immature, but I know

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Speaker 6: How did you like realize that this is what you

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Speaker 6: another dumb question. Did you start as like a pilot

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Speaker 4: For me?

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Speaker 3: I was just a kid that like dreamed of the

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Speaker 3: think that many kids have that dream, Like the Lego

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Speaker 7: It's funny until you explain what's actually happening at the

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Speaker 2: Ago, you can't come back.

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Speaker 3: It's often said that the first person on Mars is

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Speaker 3: to learn about our solar system, to see if there's

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Speaker 2: Catherine, just say I want to join you in space.

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Speaker 2: Are there already prerequisites? What do you I mean? Clearly

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Speaker 2: you need to be fit, right, you need to be smart?

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Speaker 2: Like what does one need to study?

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Speaker 2: How do I get to space? Well?

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Speaker 3: The great thing about wanting to be an astronaut is

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Speaker 3: you can have many types of career. You can have

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Speaker 3: a career in any stem field to science, technology, engineering, maths,

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Speaker 3: including being a doctor or a pilot. Journalism, well, there's

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Speaker 3: a lot, there's a need for space journalists in general.

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Speaker 4: On the ground.

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Speaker 3: Actual part of being an astronaut is to be a

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Speaker 3: science communicator. So an astronaut today, you know you're a

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Speaker 3: scientist in their test subject. You're an engineer, you're a

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Speaker 4: The amazing things we have going on.

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Speaker 3: So in the selection process they look for those kinds

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Speaker 4: But you also have to.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we've all been on school trips and work trips.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, now it's it's a new world.

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Speaker 4: Love that, love that.

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Speaker 7: Hey, thank you so much for joining us this morning.

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Speaker 4: It's fun. Next time from space on.

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Speaker 7: If you go up there, you shoot us a text.

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Speaker 7: We'd love to check in.

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Speaker 7: No we won't.

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Speaker 6: Lauren wake up good number one hundred Lauren on Socials