1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: Hey guys, Jack here. Our backstage caps go live tonight 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: at six pm. There's only a limited amount, so get 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: in fast. Hit the link tree in our. 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 2: Episode bios or social bios and. 5 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: If you want to watch Tim Zoo take on Fondora, 6 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: we've got the fight link in our bio, so check 7 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: it out. Thanks, guys, have a great week. 8 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 3: Well imagine that Tim doing that to your own son, 9 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 3: pretending he was adopted. 10 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: For most of his life. 11 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 3: By the end, bro, I was hoping I was. 12 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: Characteria's old fiance. He was like gorgeous look at man, 13 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: blonde and blue eyed surf to the rest of it. 14 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: Sometimes the ball might have jump back into the paddock. 15 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 3: And he had unlike that. He had like a mad personality. 16 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 3: He was funny. I was rooting for them to work out. 17 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: Fortunately I didn't. Are we we're good to go. We 18 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: got the cameraman in the corner as well. Those people 19 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: that can't see on the YouTube. Timmy Timmy Zoo, Welcome 20 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: to the studio, mate. We're very excited to have you 21 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: on something that you wouldn't actually realize. You know how, 22 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of dads when they have 23 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 3: a drink, they might get a they might put a 24 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: music video or they've got a YouTube clip that they 25 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: get here. Everyone kids coming here and a look at this. 26 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: Matthew John's is one. Every time he drinks without fault 27 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: for the last ten years, he always plays the highlights 28 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 3: of Costa Zoo versus Zab Judah all the time. 29 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: It's a great fight. It's the perfect fight. You got 30 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: the loud mouth with the big entourage and all of 31 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 2: a sudden, Yeah, we all know the story. Yeah, Johnny 32 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: told me. Johnny Lewis told me a great story. Actually 33 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: having a beer one day just starts sound like an alcah. 34 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: Johnny said that going into the way in, of course 35 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: Judah had Tyson, Pernel Whittaker, all those guys around him. 36 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: Judah and he said, we costure. You know, God, you 37 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: know a lot more of me. But the cost you 38 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: put like was an actually probably a nady kilo man. 39 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: Where he said Judah was probably a sixty kilo man. 40 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: And he said at the way in, he said, there 41 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: was a moment where Pernel, Whittaker and Tyson, all those 42 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: guys just moved away and your dad put his hand 43 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: around Zab Judah's waste and wear too small. Yeah, mind games. 44 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, Actually, you know what another story was my 45 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 4: dad found out. My dad's whole campaign around that fight 46 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 4: was called Destiny, that this was his destiny. This this uh, 47 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 4: this fight, this was you know, it was all the 48 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 4: marbles for the undisputed title. So so the whole campaign 49 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: before the fight was his was was called Destiny. And 50 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 4: I think a month before the fight, Zab had a 51 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 4: daughter named Destiny. I think it was freshly born and 52 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 4: it wasn't out in the public. It was just low key. 53 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 4: But my dad found out about her and he whispered 54 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 4: in Zab's eve at the weigh in. He goes, I 55 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 4: hope your destiny is all right. She's well, my destiny 56 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 4: comes tomorrow night. And apparently, you know, he was talking 57 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: and everything and then he just like was rattled, didn't 58 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: know what to say, you know that buzzed in. 59 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty crazy. Mind The rest is histue boxing 60 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 3: is and correct me if I'm wrong, but boxing seems 61 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 3: like it's ninety percent mental. 62 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, Like, but you know what now it's sort 63 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 4: of like changing. It's become more of a like a show. Yeah, 64 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 4: you know, sometimes you get to have that like that 65 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 4: last bit that we get to actually see someone and 66 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 4: then say your last little bit of words. These days 67 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 4: it becomes more about just trash talking, just talking it up. 68 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 4: But there is a certain bit that you can do 69 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 4: and to mentally get inside your opponent. 70 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: How do you go with like the obviously it is 71 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: very showman shit right to sell and whatnot. But you 72 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: don't seem like the kind of guy that that that 73 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: comes like naturally too, like you're naturally quite quiet? 74 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: Do you respectful? 75 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, Like do you do you find that side hard? 76 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: Or like do you just like to be. 77 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 4: The thing for me? I just like to be authentic. 78 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 4: I don't want to be someone that I'm not. You know, 79 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 4: it's hard to you obviously obviously obviously people get exposed 80 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,839 Speaker 4: when they're when they're putting on an act and let's 81 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 4: go on that. 82 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, saying but yourself, everyone else is taken. But your 83 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: dad used to do make the thing like getting mind games. 84 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: Remember used to have the steel balls in his hands 85 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: and used to say things like, mate, this is like 86 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: I do this to strengthen my hands and make me 87 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: a bigger punch. Or it might have been finding charmbo 88 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: Mitchell and his head. I've worked on his new punch 89 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 2: you see Chameo Mitchell going fuck, just just on that. 90 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: I was just reading sort of. I've been reading a 91 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: book which is pretty grim, the history of the Soviet Union. 92 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: But of course your roots are in sarah Off, Russia. 93 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: It's just tough, industrial mining town. Do you get back there, Tim, 94 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: Have you been there? 95 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 4: I haven't been. I've been once in my life and 96 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 4: that was when I was in year one, and I 97 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 4: still have memories of it. For some reason. It just 98 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 4: always stuck in my in my head, even from such 99 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 4: a such a young kid back then. But I spent 100 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 4: a month there and I just, yeah, just have little 101 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 4: glimpses of it. I remember one time it was just 102 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 4: it was summer and the sun wouldn't go down until 103 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 4: like twelve o'clock. 104 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: Does it stay up that long? 105 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: Yeahause the higher or lower hour in the world. 106 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 4: There's a day and it's after the school formal where 107 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 4: there's sunshine twenty four hours in the whole day. 108 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, it was interesting because your family has correct 109 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: Korean blood ancestry Mongolian Korean. Yeah, because what was interesting 110 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: was Sarah had a big post World War One, had 111 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: a big prisoner of war camp which had a lot 112 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: of Mongolian Chinese, but predominantly Koreans, and they said, as 113 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: a consequence, the town has a big Korean influence, which 114 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: I thought. 115 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 4: Was that was probably from that's where we probably came. 116 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: That's it. 117 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 4: You got. 118 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 3: Like, obviously you haven't been back to Russia since you won, 119 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 3: but do you have quite a big back to Russia 120 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 3: or you've been back there, just. 121 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 4: Just haven't been to the How how. 122 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 3: You received in Russia? Do you do you have a 123 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: big following there? I think so, yeah, yeah. 124 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 4: I think so. The thing the thing with my dad, 125 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 4: it's very strange, like he's he's very well known in Russia, 126 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 4: like David Beckham, really type type level in Russia. So 127 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 4: it's it's that type of that type of life and 128 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 4: profile that he's got there. And when we lived there, 129 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 4: me and my brothers, we sort of had that that 130 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 4: weird privilege, I'd say, but we're not because we were 131 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 4: brought up in Australia, we're not. We weren't used to it. 132 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 4: That's that's one of the things that made us want 133 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 4: to come back to Australia. 134 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: I met your dad about a month after your dad 135 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 2: and your mum defected, and he was at the Newcastle 136 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: Races with Johnny Fight coming up there and and first 137 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: thing like you the really dark eyes. He shook my hand. 138 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: Honestly it was. 139 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 3: Strong handshake, strong handshake. I noticed the same thing when 140 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: I thought you were like power moving broken. 141 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: But house preparation has. 142 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: Been Tim, it's been good. It's been good. It's been 143 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 4: all six weeks back and forth from from us, so 144 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 4: it's been it's been quite good. Boys fly in from 145 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 4: America and I've had another guy flying from from New 146 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 4: Zealand talk South Paw emulate that type of story, is. 147 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: That when you're when you're getting a sparring partner, do 148 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: you try to get someone who is similar as similar 149 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: as possible, even height wise? 150 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, because to be difficult with Vondora. 151 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a tall man, right. 152 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, So the boys are six for four South Paws 153 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 4: tall rangy. So that's what we're going with. 154 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: Wow, do you tim when you go into camp? Like 155 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: I remember hearing stories about Marvin Hagler. Marvin Hagler would 156 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: hire the whole floor of a hotel and would basically 157 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: go into exile. What extent do you do as far 158 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: as camps concerned. 159 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 4: I don't like to overthink too much and try and 160 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 4: keep it not balanced, that'd say. I'd say, just somewhere 161 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: where I can go home and just be relaxed, you know, 162 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 4: not thinking about boxing NonStop. Otherwise it's it becomes too much. 163 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 4: You sort of just rock up on fight night and 164 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 4: you want to be ready like that, you know. So Yeah, 165 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 4: for me, I don't. I don't need to get out there. 166 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 4: I used to go to America and be around around 167 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 4: it all, but it wasn't It wasn't for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 168 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 4: being around boxing twenty four hours is too much training. 169 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I can only imagine some of the people too. Yeah. 170 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: I mean, let's face it to him, everyone wants something 171 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: off you, like taking a little piece that's fatigued. 172 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, of course, and just being a home 173 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 4: sometimes is just a bit more relaxing, you know, more 174 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 4: of peace. 175 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: July twenty MGM grand amazing card. Trying to think, you know, 176 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: as good a card, you know, as far as the 177 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: strains are concerned, because of course, Pakio's come out of 178 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: time for Barrios. I remember Jeff Fanik when he fought 179 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: to Zoom and Nelson for the first time. That was 180 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: the undercard to Mike Tyson's first fight when he got 181 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 2: out of the Colonel Clink against Raddick. But this is 182 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: an amazing opportunity, Paki, How what what's it? What's it 183 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: been like knocking around with Many? 184 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 4: His aura, you know when he when he walks in, 185 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 4: you feel sort of feel his presence. It's pretty it's 186 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 4: pretty extraordinary. 187 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 3: Have you Is this your first time eating you before? 188 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 4: I did a bit of sparring with him. Yeah, so 189 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 4: I go according to to work with him for two 190 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 4: weeks in the Philippines. Is that is that? Like? 191 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 3: Is that weird? Because he's he's forty six now he'd 192 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 3: be closer to your old like to questions age, is 193 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 3: that weird? Has he had a conversation where he's like 194 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 3: it's a bit surreal for him to nah, he hasn't 195 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 3: said that. 196 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 4: No, he doesn't say much. I'll be honest. Really, yeah, 197 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: he doesn't say much. He's uh. 198 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that must have been an experience being in the 199 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,239 Speaker 2: Philippines with Many. You're talking about the level of fame. 200 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was it was. 201 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: Like a like a god wow, you know, like the 202 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 3: cricketers in India kind of thing. 203 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: May this this? I mean, Paki how is what has given? 204 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: Like the Filipinos like. 205 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 4: You know, yeah, pressed he was going for presidentship? 206 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: Was he going for president? 207 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? 208 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, well him, but he he wouldn't walk the streets 209 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 3: of Philippines. You can't even No, no, she made me. 210 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 2: Sleep on the couch last night. 211 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: You know what, you know why I slept on? So 212 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: he lost his credit card right down at the beach somewhere, 213 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 3: and he's looking for ages. Mum ends up canceling it. 214 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 3: The moment she cancels it, as it always does, someone 215 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: messaged me saying, oh, it's turned up at the pub. 216 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 3: I can tell your dad. Someone's found it at the pub. 217 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: So he's obviously been around the pub too. And then 218 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 3: and then he cracked the ships because she canceled it 219 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: for him. 220 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I cracked the ships because before that 221 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: she kept asking questions, going, have you traced your steps? 222 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: And I went, yeah, I have. What did you do 223 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: with the last time I paid for coffee? Oh? What 224 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: sort of coffee? Just man, what sort of coffee? I've 225 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: lost my credit card. It just went on and on 226 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: and so forth. So I' a bit tied around the neck. 227 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, but but yeah, but many that that level 228 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: of fame there. I had a friend who was flying 229 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: from the Philippines to the US and they're sitting on 230 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 2: the plane and they said, sorry, there's delay delayed two 231 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: hours because many peck hours he was running lay for 232 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 2: the plane. 233 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 4: They just kept you know, when I when I came 234 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 4: to the Philippines, there was just a massive line at 235 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 4: the airport. One of the customs officers in the in 236 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 4: the Philippines comes tim come straight through. They grabbed my 237 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 4: bags and I'm straight into the car. I've got a 238 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 4: bit of Filipino spending money straight to me, straight into 239 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 4: the hotel. And I was like, oh, this is this 240 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 4: is good, this is not. 241 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 3: I might move over. 242 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 2: What did you What did you learn sparring? 243 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 4: I wouldn't say much about the sparring. The first time, 244 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 4: first time we met, were standing face to face from 245 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 4: each other about the spa. So so that was unreal. 246 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 4: But yeah, I was I wasn't allowed to go full 247 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 4: hard yep, I was allowed to. I was trying to 248 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 4: have to have to try to imitate Keith thurmant Or, okay, 249 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 4: and I'm not used to that. So it was a 250 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 4: cool experience being around it all. But to continue on 251 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 4: in terms of my career, wasn't going to do too much? 252 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: What did you you were your warn not to go 253 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: too hard? Was the same warning given to him. 254 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 4: Or no, I'm not sure. 255 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, did he go pretty hard? 256 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 4: No? 257 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: No, okay, yeah, no. 258 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 4: He would like he would he would take off the 259 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 4: whole round and then like in the end he would 260 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 4: like pick it up in the last thirty seconds. He 261 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 4: comes out with these spurts. 262 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 3: Because he's going he's forty six, He's going to break 263 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 3: his own record. He's trying to break his own record 264 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 3: as the oldest weldweight champion. Yeah, he's as a boxer. 265 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 3: How like give us a bit of an insight. How 266 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: hard is that going to be? Like how big a 267 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 3: mountains that for him to close? 268 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's the biggest mountain right 269 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 4: now for him. You know, like he's done his eight 270 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 4: division world champion, which is crazy old record status. But 271 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 4: to be who is fighting Marios, Yeah, it's pretty crazy. 272 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's made. He's he's some sort of fighter and man. 273 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, and forty six. It's unfortunately it's a hard age. 274 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, we even see like look at the UFC, even 275 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 3: even Volk he just he just won thirty six is 276 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: the oldest in that division, and chatting with him even 277 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 3: he was like that was that was so I had 278 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: to train so hard because give him my age. Man, 279 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 3: he's got ten years. 280 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: Say that there's saying boxesn't you can grow all overnight? 281 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 2: See that? We fighters, Yeah, fighters very often after their 282 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: greatest victory can just exhale a little bit. 283 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 3: Did I see a video as well of you as 284 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 3: a kid and like as Manny Paki was walking out 285 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: to a fight and he waved it you like you 286 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: came out to him. What was the deal with that? 287 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: What was that? 288 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 4: Two thousand and nine, I went to watch Pato MGM 289 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 4: grand We're on fire now. It's always been a big 290 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 4: dream one. Yeah, And we were near the entrance and 291 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 4: I was screaming out team back out, back out, back out, 292 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 4: and he sort of looked up and he was looking 293 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 4: around like I remember, for the rest of my. 294 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: Life, I've never seen them like packing out. When are 295 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: you beau to go out there? Like it's just so 296 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: happy to yea over that time. But you see when 297 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: you had the lead singer Survivor singing Ey the Tiger 298 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: and he's just walking behind him and he's looking. 299 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 3: So funny is that Has that been crazy for you? 300 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 3: Like it like obviously you flew over there to SPA 301 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: and that first time you meet him, are you like, like, 302 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: did you tell him that was you and the crowd? 303 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: Did you tell him about that moment. 304 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 4: And he remembers about the crowd? 305 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? That guy. Do you know when you get people sometimes, 306 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: tim do you remember fifteen years Yeah? 307 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, did you tell him like the moment? Did you 308 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 3: be like Actually, when I. 309 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 4: Was a kid, I didn't tell him you don't want 310 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 4: to be you don't want to don't like that. Other 311 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 4: guys that used to tell me that stuff. 312 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you run into have you had much to 313 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: do with like some of the greatest legends in fight's history, 314 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: Because I imagine amongst even though there's lots of trash 315 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: talk and stuff the boxing world, there must be I 316 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: feel like a real community of visual respect. 317 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 4: It is. 318 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 319 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 4: And the crazy thing is like being in the boxing 320 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 4: scene now in America, like being just amongst it and 321 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 4: around it. Even going to the fights the other day, 322 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 4: it was just like you see all these top boxes 323 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 4: from from different divisions and different errors, and they're all 324 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 4: recognizing You're saying hi to you and You're like, that's 325 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 4: that's the biggest trip out for me. Like that was 326 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 4: like these guys that I've watched throughout the years and 327 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 4: they're coming up to you and saying that's how much 328 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 4: they like your style and stuff like that. 329 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: Just the best in every sport team they know the sport. 330 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: I love it with Mike Tyson might. Tyson just knows 331 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: the history of fighting and everything. 332 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 4: But it's like kinds of Fury. Yeah that next to 333 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 4: Tyson Fury my brother's fight. And we start talking. He's like, man, 334 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 4: I watched your fight against Tony Harrison. He goes, I 335 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 4: loved it, and I'm like, no, wait what you watched 336 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 4: my fight? Yeah, I'm tripping now and I'm like, no way, watchful. 337 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 2: Listened to a podcast. A guy who gave you a 338 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: really good rap was Ricky Hatton. Ricky was talking about 339 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: you know where he beat your dad in Manchester that 340 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 2: night and then he was like, spoke after it and 341 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: he said, I got to give a rap. He said 342 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 2: there were no excuses. Costure was really grateful. He's a 343 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 2: great guy and he said I saw his son Tim 344 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: fight really and what do you say, Oh, yes, t 345 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 2: lad MAT's got got heavy hands. 346 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 3: Has people that your dad's fought have they like through 347 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 3: your journey as people reached out or like you have 348 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 3: come across. 349 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, we saw each other at the Charlo phone and 350 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 4: it was cool to just connect, you know how. 351 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: He with the mask, he was cool. 352 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, he's turned his life around. He's like a nurse, Neil, 353 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 4: is he really Yeah? 354 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 2: Good for him. 355 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's turned into a nurse and yeah he's 356 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 4: doing he's doing great. 357 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember like when your dad fought him, he 358 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: was considered at the point he was in the argument 359 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 2: best panther pan Fi. Yeah, well when your dad dropped him, 360 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: he was never the same fighter again. 361 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 4: No, he actually became an undisputed champ. 362 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: Did he really? 363 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 4: Yeah? 364 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 3: Yeah didn't he didn't he get like he got banned 365 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 3: for a bit for touching the raft, right, he. 366 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 4: Went up the division and beat Cory Spinks and became 367 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 4: undisputable champion. 368 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: Disappeared afterwards. 369 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, it must have been when dad started drinking. Have 370 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 3: you got a did you have a hero when you 371 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 3: were growing up like fighting wise? 372 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 4: Uh? Roy Roy Jones? Yeah, yeah, yeah really, but then 373 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 4: when growing up in the in the teen teenagers, it 374 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 4: was I used to always watch Floyd Mayweather and yeah. 375 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 3: Do you like because when you when you have a 376 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 3: league players listen to this will understand. Like when you 377 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 3: have a hero going up, you try to like you 378 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 3: always try to play the same position as them, and 379 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 3: like in juniors and try to adopt some of their 380 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 3: habits in boxing, Is that the same, like different styles 381 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 3: that you try to adopt. 382 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. I was always trying to do a bit of floid. 383 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, not obviously outside but inside the ring. The 384 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 4: way he used to box was like for me, it 385 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 4: was like perfection, you know. I always looked up to him. 386 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 2: Used to be funny. You go to to the public 387 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: gyms like fitness first you go up there and when 388 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: Floyd was you know, firing. Yeah, you used to get 389 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 2: blokes and they put the mits on stuff and everyone 390 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 2: had their hands around their waist, you know. All I said, 391 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 2: why doesn't want to be costing? Sebastian, I'll ask you 392 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: a question here. And I've always of the belief there's 393 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: a difference between the smart thing and the right thing, 394 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: And I've times the smart thing is oftentimes dictated by 395 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: other people. The right thing is something that just exists 396 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: within you. Now with the fondora fault and you had 397 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: the head cut. Everyone went, well, the smart thing was 398 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: to go bang, you know, I don't know, declared a drawer, 399 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 2: I went to the card. I'm not sure at what 400 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 2: point of the fight it was, but for you, in 401 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: you was the right thing to continue to fight. 402 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, like even to this day, like you when I 403 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 4: just said, like I was at these fights and you 404 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 4: got the legends saying how much of a fighter you are? 405 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 4: You know, and it's all because of what you show, 406 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 4: you know, what you what I did on that on 407 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 4: that given night, and forever be forever be lived. 408 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 3: The response, like the response that you got from that, 409 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 3: because obviously you got beat but I imagine you would 410 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: have gained a lot of a huge response and respect 411 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 3: from the fighting community, like we people reaching out from 412 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 3: after that fight a bit. 413 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a lot of respect, Yeah, respect, the 414 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 4: fact that the amount of blood that I went through 415 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 4: was crazy and to be to keep fighting on. 416 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 3: You know, I like this the other day. The human 417 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 3: body actually hasn't got that much blood in it, but actually, 418 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 3: well most human bodies haven't got that much blood in it. 419 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 3: Like I think it's something like and I might be 420 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 3: wrong here, probably hang on. Jack's holding up seven leaders, 421 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: eight leaders, Okay, it's eight leaders of blood in it, 422 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 3: which that's not that much. 423 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 2: With that fight. 424 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 3: I remember watching that fight. You would have gone through 425 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 3: about two or three. 426 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 2: There was that much after, did you feel? Yeah? Right, 427 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: because that's what they do. You know what they do 428 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 2: with horses. Back in the old days with the horses. 429 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 2: They used to blood horses. They used to train them 430 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: like choke the horse with but now they used put 431 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: it around, get it. So the vein the juggle vane 432 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: needs to prick the jae Levan it lose all this 433 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 2: blood and go and lay down, fall asleep, and the 434 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 2: next day get up and regenerated. So that's what I'm 435 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: saying is to him. Have you ever thought about. 436 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 3: Is that all it takes sports science? Sports science has evolved. 437 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: But Fandora that that fight, I reckon. I'm not going 438 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: to say I reckon? Do you reckon? He would be 439 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 2: incredibly at the moment apprehensive, given the fact that when 440 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: you watch that fight, like I could see until the headcut, 441 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 2: the confidence was just draining out of him and it 442 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 2: was just basically a matter of time. 443 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think that's what he wants to rewrite. 444 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 4: That's his motivation, you know, is that because his victory 445 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 4: was sort of overshadowed by the fact that what was 446 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 4: happening inside the ring, you know. And I think that's 447 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 4: that's his biggest motivation. And for me, my biggest motivation 448 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:55,719 Speaker 4: is what happened. 449 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. 450 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 5: It's like Rocky, like the last Rocky where the last 451 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 5: of where he's he he no one expects him to win, 452 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 5: and he gets in there and he rips in and 453 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 5: then the other guy, the modern he was like the 454 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 5: modern Antonio Tabor. 455 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: He he beats him, but everyone like claps Rocky out, 456 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 3: Like Rocky was the one who was more respected. I 457 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 3: imagine for fun Door. 458 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 2: For one second, it was a movie, not a documentary. 459 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 3: No, no, no. But for me, this is the this 460 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 3: is the thing, Tim, It's the message that that movie conveys. Okay, 461 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 3: the message that movie conveyed that touched my heart and 462 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: I'm sure it touched many hearts across Australia. 463 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: Like after it, did. 464 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 3: You sense anything from fun Door? Like have you did 465 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: you speak to him after the fight? 466 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 4: Really a well, we sort of interacted straight after the fight. Yeah, 467 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 4: where he came and gave me the belt back. Yeah, uh, 468 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 4: and that's what that was about it. 469 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, like you know, boxing, Tim like to move 470 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: in the outsider. I might have completely wrong. He looks 471 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 2: like a really sort of nice sweet guy. You're you're 472 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 2: a technician as a fighter. How much do you have 473 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 2: to get yourself or do you have to demonize the 474 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 2: other fighter or can you just clinically just go about 475 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 2: your work emotionless? 476 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, there is no emotion right, Yeah, the the emotion 477 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 4: ones are actually harder, you know, So the fact that 478 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 4: there's no emotion in it? 479 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 3: Have you always been like that, like as a kid, 480 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 3: like even in Where does that come from? 481 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 4: Man? 482 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, because there's lots of Like there's lots 483 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 3: of footy players who I look at and they have 484 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 3: the same, very much the same demeanor as you. Like 485 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 3: Nathan Clear is kind of that one as well, like 486 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 3: very technical and like not much like not much emotion, 487 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 3: and it benefits him in big moments because he can 488 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 3: calm himself down under pressure and he's able to execute. 489 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 3: Like is that something that you trained? Like, I know 490 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 3: you work a lot with mental coach and stuff. Is 491 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 3: that something that you trained or is that certain of 492 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 3: your identity. 493 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 4: I think I think it's a bit of birth. Yeah, well, yeah, 494 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 4: I think it's a bit of birth. And I think 495 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 4: with the fund door that I did sort of lose 496 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 4: control as soon as the as soon as the cut happened, 497 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 4: I went into my into someone that I'm not rather 498 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 4: than being very methodical. And when you. 499 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 3: Couldn't see it was like putting Stevie Wonder in the Yeah, 500 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 3: that's that's the thing. 501 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 2: Did did the doctor look answered? He checked it out? 502 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 2: Did he did? He want to stop the fight? 503 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 4: But I'm not sure I was. I was actually in 504 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 4: my head. I was thinking that this fight would be stopped. 505 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, how did? How is your mom watching? 506 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 2: I mean, your poor mom, she's going she's going through 507 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 2: it three times? Yeah, you know costure, she must be 508 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: just going. 509 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 6: She's not watching, she doesn't watch it. 510 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 3: Just it's just too much. 511 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. 512 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 4: I think it's a bit heavy. Yeah. 513 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 514 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 3: Has your brother going to it? Because he's been I 515 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 3: remember coming on coming to show. Your brother's got a 516 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 3: sixth cent of humor. Yeah, it looks like he's got 517 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 3: a sixth cent to you. 518 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: When he's on the show talking about where he had 519 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: a chocolate milk and I had it. I went back 520 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 2: and and he like, God, I think he's just a 521 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: sinuated he. 522 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 3: Has Oh man, if you two got a good relationship, 523 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: like how hell must of you guys hang out outside 524 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 3: not much keeping, you. 525 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 4: Know, is cool. He's just we're into two different things. 526 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 4: You know. He's a rule. 527 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 3: Bush was like hunting and that. 528 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 4: No, just just goes out there. He just goes for 529 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 4: a walk with his dogs. Yeah, it's a rule. 530 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 2: Is he married, Niki? 531 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 4: Yes he is. He is. Yeah, he had a low 532 00:26:53,359 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 4: key wedding without telling anyone. Mom found out from the 533 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 4: from from the newspaper. 534 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: She called me, do you know what's funny? 535 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 4: Begin to get married? 536 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 3: Well, this is something we share in common because Matthew's 537 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 3: brother Andrew John's same thing. Bring us. One day, I 538 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 3: was just he was in Bali or something, right, he 539 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 3: was overseas, and he goes, I just got married. This 540 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 3: was like four months ago. And then they came out 541 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: in the paper later. 542 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: And we were like, at least cool, thanks, that's right. 543 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: Likely apetually it's first marriage, is yeah, third time. She's 544 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 2: a nice girl, she's a chance. 545 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's also make sure we look that he's married. 546 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: Life count for you. 547 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 4: It's good. It's good. Yeah, the same for me and. 548 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: Trust media, you'll be on the Sundays and Diamonds most days. 549 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 4: The Stones. 550 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 3: Were just joking very much back to the FA fight 551 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 3: after what was that period like after because you how 552 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 3: long did it take for you to get back in 553 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 3: the ring after that fight? It was pretty soon, right. 554 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 4: No, it took a bit because I had still had 555 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 4: the cut to sort of let it heal. Yeah, But 556 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 4: I was in Hawaii for like two weeks and I 557 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 4: came back and went to Thailand and started prepping for 558 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 4: a fight against Victor Virgil Waitsis. Yeah, and then that 559 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 4: got postponed because of my cut still hasn't healed. And 560 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 4: then yeah, then I went to America and for it. 561 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 4: I think it was October. 562 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, right. That's that's the reason. Another reason Timmy just 563 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 2: get so much respect, not just from the fight community, 564 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: everyone is the fact that you stay active and the 565 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: fact that, like you know, you're prepared for Keith Thurman, 566 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: Thurman pull that broken broken hand and all of a sudden, 567 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: Fandora you've been preparing for just someone completely different. You 568 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: still take the fight. 569 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, And that's that's the best thing about this 570 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 4: camp is that I've actually had time to to actually 571 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 4: slow things down, be able to work on things, work 572 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 4: on the mistakes, work on things that don't work, find 573 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 4: out stuff that don't work, find out stuff that works, 574 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 4: and be able to, yeah, to work on them. 575 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: Do you how much? How much take do you do? 576 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 4: I don't do too much? 577 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: You're right? 578 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't like to watch too much. 579 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 3: Are the fighters that do that like watch a lot 580 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 3: of video really? Yeah, and analyze like. 581 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 4: What they analyze everything? Really, I try and understand see 582 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 4: what he's going to understand it? Understand it? 583 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 3: Or what about for yourself? Like do you watch a 584 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,959 Speaker 3: lot of fights back and see like how you might 585 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 3: have handled a scenario or your own sort of fighting 586 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 3: style a little bit more so than watching an opponent. 587 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I like to watch boxing in general, but 588 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 4: I don't really like to watch opponents on my soul. 589 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 3: Do you like watching your brother? 590 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: Nah? 591 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 3: You don't like that? 592 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 4: No? 593 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 3: No, Like is that it's just stressful because you've just 594 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 3: got this style? 595 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: Poe always? 596 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? 597 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 3: Would it be like, is it stressful as a brother 598 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: to watch your brother fight? 599 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? 600 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 3: Like you get nervous in that? 601 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: Really? 602 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 4: Yeah? First fight, I was shoulding myself. I'll be honest. 603 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 4: I didn't know what to do. I didn't know how 604 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 4: to feel. I had to just like try to relax myself, 605 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 4: calm myself down. Yeah, it was tough. 606 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: He certainly drags opponents into every time we fight, it's 607 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: it's eventful. Yeah, he loves to war. 608 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 609 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: Who are the fighters you really like watching these days? 610 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 4: These days? Uh m hm, no one, there's heavyweights. I 611 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 4: don't mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's my favorite fight at 612 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 4: the moment. 613 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: He's animal and it's funny like chubby boy, chubby boy. 614 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't have like the typical like Anthony Joshua Mexican. 615 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 2: Yeh monster. Yeah. 616 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 3: Is there any like Giopatyre in Australian boxing because he 617 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 3: broke that guy's jawel the up day. 618 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 2: You know what a gentleman there like broke his jaw 619 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: then went organized the bloke to organize his doctor to 620 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: operate on did he afterwards? 621 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 622 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 3: It was good drinking it through a straw. 623 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 4: Mate. 624 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 3: The funny thing about Giant, So in twenty twenty, we 625 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 3: had a big trip for the Storm after our season 626 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 3: to Byron Bay and me and Brandon Smith. There's a 627 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: beautiful pie shop and it's like the kebab store. It 628 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 3: stays open all night, so after a few beers you 629 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 3: can go there and get a pie. And Gie was 630 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 3: there and he come up, was talking to us, mate, 631 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 3: and he hadn't I don't even think he'd had a 632 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 3: professional fight yet. But we knew he was a boxer 633 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 3: because like I think Brandon, Brandon watches boxing a lot. 634 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 3: He's got a good fighter, street fighter. And this blow 635 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 3: come up to guy and mate, I don't know what 636 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 3: it is with drunk punners and wanting to when they 637 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 3: know someone's a good fighter, wanting to try to get 638 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 3: them to fight him. This bloke would not leave him 639 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 3: alone and was going after him, after him, and Brandon 640 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 3: was like, what are you doing? Like you're gonna get 641 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 3: killed if he turns lucky. He's pretty like he was 642 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 3: just telling them like piece off. Mate, I didn't really 643 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 3: buy it, buy it, but mate, after watching him knock 644 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 3: that bloke out the other day, looking back on that moment, that. 645 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 2: Bloke could have. You know, some blokes deserve to be 646 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: knocked out, you know what I mean. But you're right, 647 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: you do you ever get that? Do you ever get 648 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 2: people coming up drunks. 649 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 4: Maybe because I'm not in that scene. Yeah right, not 650 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 4: in that scene, So I don't really don't. 651 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 3: Really, you're not really a drinker. No, no, Like after 652 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 3: a fight with really, how do you unwind? Like, how 653 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 3: do you celebrate a fight post fighter? 654 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 4: Just just relaxed with with a few friends and that's it. 655 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 4: We're just get something to you. 656 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 3: You're like the perfect human. I appreciate that. 657 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 2: That's that's very like. 658 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 3: That's I imagine a lot of fighters after a long 659 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 3: training camp, they want to blow off steam. 660 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 2: Do you not. 661 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 4: You don't really don't, don't have the urges, don't have 662 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 4: the feeling. Yeah, it's done. 663 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 3: You must just be happy. 664 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 2: Said about the Mexican monster, like the Mexican the Mexican 665 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: fighters like that. You know, you watching Alvarez of course, 666 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 2: all how many Mexicans you have? You thought, and yeah, 667 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 2: oh yes, okay, you cleaned him up pretty quick. Remember 668 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 2: they call your dad the executioner. 669 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, you had a few spared, a few tough, tough, tough. 670 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 4: They hit hard as well, and the style is just 671 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 4: very rugged. You know, you're always in for hard and 672 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 4: hard spy. Good to the body as well. 673 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 3: Right, one of the one of my mates. He actually 674 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 3: just leaves up the road. He's Australian, but he's from 675 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 3: Mexican background, Australian fighter Mateo Tapia. 676 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 4: Yeah he's of course. 677 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's a bloody good fighter. 678 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. And like you said, I've spied hundreds and hundreds 679 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 4: of rounds with him. 680 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a good Like you said, they've got a 681 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 3: certain style, right, like he loves like he drops a 682 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 3: lot of blokes by going to the body. 683 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 684 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, Wow, he's got a good body show. He's hit 685 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 4: me a couple of times in the body and. 686 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 2: You're just like, that's a Mexican trade around the body. 687 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 2: Yeah right, Vez I saw. It's a real shame of 688 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 2: his son's fighting ja Jake Paul. 689 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 690 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 2: Fuck just you know, look he should beat the ship there. 691 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 692 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 3: I mean when you look at these influencer boxes, right Paul, 693 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 3: Logan Paul and Jake Paul even like KSI those guys 694 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 3: get in, do you look at them and kind of 695 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 3: go like, are they good fighters? 696 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 4: Or I don't think they're bad? Yeah, Okay, they're having 697 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 4: a good little crack at it. Yeah, I don't think 698 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 4: what's his name, Logan Paul's good, He's pause all right, yeah. 699 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 3: Okay, do you see like, obviously it's shaman ship, right, 700 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 3: they're making money, yadyada. But do you look at it 701 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 3: from a boxing point of view and go like it's 702 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 3: a little disrespectful to the sport or it's just or 703 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,240 Speaker 3: is it good for the sport? 704 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 4: No, it's actually not bad. Yeah, like it brings more eyes. 705 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 4: I think Jack Paul's doing a good job. He's he's 706 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 4: trying to take over women's boxing. 707 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah. 708 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 4: He signed all the women and giving them a good pay, 709 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 4: so you know, if that's what it takes, then good 710 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 4: on him. 711 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 2: You know, he said before the changing face of boxing 712 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: isn't like the showmanship and everything. I must say when 713 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 2: Logan Paul fought Floyd Mayweather, it was so frustrating because 714 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 2: he was just taking the piss and you know what 715 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 2: I mean, he must be clever Floyd, given the fact 716 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 2: that he goes to all these exhibition fights around the 717 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 2: world and he never really does a job on any 718 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 2: of them. I suppose if he does others. 719 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 3: They were yeah, yeah, yeah, what about like the Mike 720 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 3: Tyson verse Jake Paul one, which we were watching it 721 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 3: and we were kind of we almost felt bad for 722 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 3: Mike given his age and like where he was at physically. 723 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, no, no, no, I just I know you mean, 724 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 2: like I really felt for like after it when you 725 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: when he was biting his glove and that, it was 726 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 2: almost like it's really strange. It was almost like a 727 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 2: young kid with insecurity, you know what I mean? Do 728 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,439 Speaker 2: you get that? Yeah? 729 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 3: But like those and obviously it's a big payday, right 730 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 3: and it's a big for showmanship, but like did you 731 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 3: do you look at that and go like, oh that 732 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:37,720 Speaker 3: was hard to watch. 733 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just because it was Mike Tyson. 734 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone's hero right exactly. 735 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 4: And you could tell he couldn't perform the way he 736 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 4: could perform, just because when you get in the ring 737 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,959 Speaker 4: there's so many people and your your body shuts down, 738 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 4: you know, your your hands can't throw any more. You 739 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 4: go through a combo and you're completely gas. That's what happens, 740 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 4: you know, And that's exactly what he went through. 741 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 2: Its fund isn't when they're so good, the networks are 742 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 2: now building fights with promos and that that you actually 743 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 2: all the way through Mike Tyson and Jake Paul's are 744 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 2: going fuck. Tyson's going to get him and then all 745 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 2: of a sudden, the fight started. Fuck, they've got me. 746 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 4: I knew that. I knew that straight away. I knew 747 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 4: it couldn't couldn't could. 748 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, because they market it well, like they released videos 749 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 3: of him on the pads and he he looks good. 750 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 3: Dad was gone, Mate, Mike's going to get. 751 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,919 Speaker 2: Him a killer, mate was talking about it. Yeah it 752 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 2: was Jeff. Anyone said. When Jeff trained Mike for a 753 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 2: little stint, he said he had all these hang hangers 754 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 2: on around him. It was really hard to keep Mike focused, 755 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 2: and he said the other thing was mine. Mike was 756 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 2: just focusing purely on power. He said to the point 757 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 2: that Jeff likes a high work rate, you know, and 758 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 2: he was. He said made. He'd do two or three punches, 759 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 2: and then he turned to one of his hands like 760 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 2: hangers on and go, how that looks good? And Jeff 761 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 2: was saying, fucking come on, keep it looking looking for brakes. 762 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right, Hey. 763 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 4: That's that's the featherweight. It's style like like Jeff Finick 764 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 4: you yeah, yeah, a lot of punches just heavyweight. You 765 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,240 Speaker 4: can't you can't throw them any punches. 766 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 2: Some of the have you seen some of the old 767 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 2: Jeff fights on. 768 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 4: The yeah, fucking NonStop. 769 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 2: It's fucking unbelievable. I saw the one report Victor Collasius 770 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 2: how today the Puerto Rican and they're just like they're 771 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 2: just headbutting each other and elbow and each other. If 772 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 2: it's unbelievable. Apparently the referee in that collagious head butter 773 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 2: Jeff had he head butts him back. He said, hey, 774 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 2: fellas blah blah blah. Then collacious headbuts in the end 775 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 2: and he pulled him in a suit. Is that Why? 776 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 2: Is that what we're going to do. If that's why 777 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 2: you want to fight, go for it. 778 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 3: I'll just let him go. 779 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 2: Just let him go, mate. You should see how brutal 780 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 2: it is. They after the fight, Johnny Lewis said, Jeff 781 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 2: had like about twenty like golf ball lumps on the 782 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 2: top of the head of os. Just let them go. 783 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 3: Newcast I want to talk about Newcastle re Sectors. Newcastles, 784 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 3: We've got a strong connection as our family. It looks 785 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 3: like a place that you love to fight. You know, 786 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 3: they call it zoo Castle. Up there, you just be 787 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 3: Joseph Spencer. Up there is your last fight. What does 788 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 3: that community feel for you? 789 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 4: Up there. Like. Look when I went out in the 790 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 4: Dennis Hogan fight, like to the stadium with the crowd, 791 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 4: I was like, it was crazy. It was just crazy. 792 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 4: I've never experienced such a thing that they really get 793 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 4: behind you. 794 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: You know. 795 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 4: I felt like a like it was a hometown for me, 796 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 4: you know, and I don't Rember. I'll always have that 797 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:35,280 Speaker 4: connection there, especially my dad. Yeah, Dad's history there, Nikita, 798 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 4: what Nikita's done there as well, So you know, it's 799 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 4: a big family legacy for us. 800 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,879 Speaker 2: It used to be big nights when your dad thought 801 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 2: there put Roger Mayweather through the ropes. Yea, some great 802 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 2: fights now before we let you go, mate the bunnies, 803 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 2: your bunnies, you're. 804 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 3: A big set. 805 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 2: They're done, right. Have you been watching You're a new 806 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 2: feeing growing up? 807 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:01,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? 808 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 6: And then yeah, why because your dad was fighting the 809 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 6: I really liked Andrew, you know, it looked at me like, 810 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 6: no way, So what was your favorite player? 811 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 4: Yeah? I remember watching the movie he had the. 812 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 3: Movie Yeah, yeah, the one with Nike and he was 813 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 3: like practicing kicking and that is that that one thinks 814 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 3: it was like a training documentary. 815 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. 816 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 4: I remember it always on in our TV at home. 817 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 4: So I always used to like, uh yeah, really. 818 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 2: Good photos of you and your dad a little Swallows restaurant. 819 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah with Joey. Yeah really you go to 820 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 3: dinner with him and that once. 821 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 2: I think I think he might have I think Costume 822 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,800 Speaker 2: might have caught up with Joey recently in the country. 823 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 2: Did Joey said Joey's life? 824 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 3: Did you guys ever think about like inviting dad to 825 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 3: those you did you see a couple of weeks where 826 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 3: Joey caught up with Cursor. You don't remember Cursor, the 827 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 3: Australian Rapper. Did you see that picture? So it was 828 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 3: game two sad of Origin and they must have both 829 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 3: been at the airport and Curse has taken a selfie 830 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 3: with Joey and put it up mate if you I 831 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 3: don't want to allude to some of the stuff that 832 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 3: people were commenting on it, but there was lots of 833 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 3: comments to elicit substances, pingers and. 834 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 2: Correct get the ideas in your head. It was that weird. 835 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 3: I was going, this is such a strange combination these 836 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 3: two together. 837 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 2: He was coming in the rabbits basically talking about all his. 838 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they were having like there was like an 839 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 3: argument that took place in the comments at one stage 840 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 3: of who took who took more pingers. But here's the 841 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 3: thing Joey and Curser were commenting on it. I don't know. 842 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 2: Now tim to finish with. We're going to do a 843 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 2: thing called loan Survivor SOP. I'm not good explaining, Okay, 844 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 2: So what's going to happen is Dad will give you 845 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 2: one second. You just give me a pen. I'm going 846 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,280 Speaker 2: to eliminate one person because he spoke about Roy Jones 847 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 2: is in the list, and that because that'll be a spoiler. 848 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 3: Okay, sweet, So Dad will give you to two fighters 849 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 3: and you pick who would you rather, and it goes 850 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 3: down to the list until there is one loan survivor 851 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 3: and that is the winner of it. 852 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,720 Speaker 2: Fighters. You you're meyer and love the most throughout history. 853 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,399 Speaker 3: And he's just ripped Roy Jones off. 854 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 2: I took it off because as soon as I say 855 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 2: Roy Jones, you're just going to tear through the list. Okay, 856 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 2: first one to really use you one Robert A Duran 857 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 2: or Jake Paul Dan. Yeah, how good? Roberto Duran Sugar a. 858 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 4: Leonard Oh Duranne. 859 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 2: Roberto Duran Marvin Hagler, Duran Duranne, Tommy Hearns. There's the 860 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 2: four Kings. You see that how good is incredible? Roberto 861 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 2: Duran triple Gnadie Glofkin triple G, Okay triple G, Jeff 862 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 2: Fennick triple G, triple G, Oscar de la Hoya triple G, 863 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 2: triple G, Julia Caesar Chavez triple G, Canelo Alvarez t G, 864 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 2: triple G, Floyd Mayweather O triple G, triple G. Mike Tyson, 865 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,280 Speaker 2: Mike Tyson, Mike Tyson, Mini pak Ya, Mike Tyson, Mike Tyson, 866 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 2: Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, Mike Tyson, cost your Zoo July 867 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 2: twenty mgm Grand Yeah, Sebastian Vanda two point zero. 868 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 3: It's going to be on main event. I get it 869 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 3: via your ko or Fox Tell mate, thanks for coming on. 870 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 3: Last question, is there any real player that you think 871 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 3: is because a lot of them try their hand of boxing, 872 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 3: Are there any of them that you think are actually? 873 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 4: I reckon that a car but Foxes I said, we 874 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 4: had Foxy on a few weeks ago and he doesn't 875 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 4: remember when we did rehab training. 876 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,359 Speaker 3: One time when we're both injured, they put gloves on him. 877 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 3: He can fight. 878 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 4: I've seen him through some hands on the street. 879 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 2: His grandfather Wally one let even eleven time national champion, 880 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 2: eleven different divisions. Well incredible. Yeah, he's quick, he's quick 881 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 2: man quick as oh yeah, he's quick. 882 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 4: Not quick with 883 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,439 Speaker 2: Thanks, appreciate you coming over, man,