Speaker 1: On scorn lids Oscodia. This is the Wader Panety Show.
Speaker 2: Good evening, and welcome to the Riata Panehy Show.
Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, Douglas Murray joins me to talk about
Speaker 3: everything from Kamala's achilles heel to Princess Catherine's good news.
Speaker 2: That's coming up before the first ad break.
Speaker 3: Caroline Marcus with the latest on a shocking crime in
Speaker 3: Brisbane that has left a nine month old with horrific injuries.
Speaker 3: And later in the hour, the brilliant Josh Hammer will
Speaker 3: be here with the latest from the US, and we
Speaker 3: have another extended edition of Lefties Losing.
Speaker 2: It starring this exhausting woman.
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, out of the mom's mouth,
Speaker 4: I hear the trigger words non binary and gender fluid
Speaker 4: and quotas in session and my ears are turned on.
Speaker 5: Let's do this.
Speaker 3: Joining me now, Senior reporter Caroline Marcus. Carolette's start with
Speaker 3: one of the most disturbing stories of the year, the
Speaker 3: attack against baby Luca in a Brisbane park.
Speaker 2: Police say the foreign.
Speaker 3: National who allegedly poured boiling coffee on this nine month
Speaker 3: old baby in a Brisbane park last month has fled
Speaker 3: the country before police could confirm his identity. Baby Lucas
Speaker 3: suffered life threatening burns and has undergone multiple surgeries since
Speaker 3: the August twenty seven attack, including skin graps. Police say
Speaker 3: the accused left the country a day before they were
Speaker 3: able to confirm his identity.
Speaker 2: A warrant has.
Speaker 3: Been obtained for his arrest for acts intending to cause
Speaker 3: grievous bodily harm. Caroline, what else can you tell me
Speaker 3: about this investigation and the likelihood of bringing this alleged
Speaker 3: defender to justice.
Speaker 6: Well, I guess the likelihood has got just that little
Speaker 6: bit lower, reader, because as we now know, this man
Speaker 6: has evaded police and managed to get out of the
Speaker 6: country just twelve hours before police identified him in what
Speaker 6: has to be the most sickening senseless crime of the
Speaker 6: year so far. It just discussed me every time I
Speaker 6: hear or read anything about this case. Police have said
Speaker 6: that this suspect had been using counter surveillance techniques in
Speaker 6: order to evade arrest, which does seem to suggest some
Speaker 6: degree of sophistication on the offender's part. It's just a
Speaker 6: question now in working with the international and interstate agencies,
Speaker 6: because this man allegedly had been staying in New South
Speaker 6: Wales for some of the time that he'd been coming
Speaker 6: in between here and overseas. We don't know where he's foreign.
Speaker 6: Police won't say since twenty nineteen, whether they can track
Speaker 6: him down in the foreign country, whether there's any sort
Speaker 6: of extradition agreement wherever he ends up being. You've just
Speaker 6: got to hope that this man can be brought to
Speaker 6: justice because what's happened here is absolutely horrific. I mean,
Speaker 6: this poor family and the trauma that baby Luca and
Speaker 6: his parents have gone through now is just beyond words.
Speaker 6: And the mother has said that she would support capital
Speaker 6: punishment for Luca's attacker, and I think, well, that's not
Speaker 6: an option in Australia. Obviously, even the most ardent opposers
Speaker 6: of the death penalty would find that hard to disagree with.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Now to Victoria and the Liberal Party has acted their
Speaker 3: candidate for the seat of Chisholm. They're now going to
Speaker 3: be putting into that seat former Higgins MP Katie Allen.
Speaker 3: Allen was the candidate for Higgins, which was abolish when
Speaker 3: electoral boundaries were redrawn, and it seems this decision has
Speaker 3: really upset the rank and file members at Chisholm, who
Speaker 3: had no say in the matter.
Speaker 2: I've got copy of.
Speaker 3: An internal party letter from the Electorate secretary which says,
Speaker 3: in my time in the party, I have never seen
Speaker 3: as much sadness amongst members as I have these past
Speaker 3: twenty four hours without any pre selection or member input.
Speaker 3: I can understand why many of you are questioning the
Speaker 3: legitimacy of this decision. Unlike Labor, we value membership and
Speaker 3: rank and file pre selections. We value democracy with value transparency,
Speaker 3: we value fairness.
Speaker 2: Carolina Katie Allen is from Tuak.
Speaker 3: She lives a very different lifestyle to the average voter
Speaker 3: in Chisholm.
Speaker 2: How do you see this decision?
Speaker 6: Well, I can't help but see this decision as one
Speaker 6: that seems to be based almost entirely on her sex.
Speaker 6: Read I mean the fact that she's a woman. And
Speaker 6: I say that not because I don't think she'd be
Speaker 6: a competent and per she's been an MP before. She's
Speaker 6: a pediatrician, and I have a highest regard for people
Speaker 6: who work with six children. But the Liberal Party has
Speaker 6: acknowledged that it needs to address what's been called its
Speaker 6: women's problem, and in order to do that, before the
Speaker 6: next election, they need to pre select something like seventy
Speaker 6: percent of her candidates being women in order to achieve
Speaker 6: that gender parody. Now, I know a lot of women
Speaker 6: out there made cheer that there's a woman who's now
Speaker 6: going to be running for the Liberals, but a lot
Speaker 6: of women as well don't like that sort of tokenism.
Speaker 6: And that's what it appears to be, even if it
Speaker 6: may not be the case. That's how it at least
Speaker 6: appears with the election electorate redistribution. It's unfortunate that she
Speaker 6: wasn't able to run for Higgins again, but is it
Speaker 6: fair to displace someone who was the pre selected candidate.
Speaker 6: I understand why it would have blind signed it blindsided
Speaker 6: a lot of can file members yes, and less them
Speaker 6: feeling so angry.
Speaker 3: I think around thirty percent of a former electorate is
Speaker 3: now part of Chisholm. But in that thirty percent, there's
Speaker 3: from what I understand, nine boots and she lost eight
Speaker 3: of them. So that tells you a little bit but
Speaker 3: about how she may perform at the coming election, but
Speaker 3: we'll wait and see. She is a very good fundraiser
Speaker 3: and is a hard worker, certainly Now former South Australian
Speaker 3: Opposition leader David Spears is insisting that this.
Speaker 2: Footage of him appearing to snort.
Speaker 3: White powder surrounded by wine and liquor bottles is a
Speaker 3: deep fake. The clip, captured on June thirty this year,
Speaker 3: was obtained by the Adelaide Advertiser. Spears says he strongly
Speaker 3: disputes the authenticity of the video. He's told the Advertiser
Speaker 3: he believes it is a deep fake or elaborate hoax,
Speaker 3: adding I was overseas for two weeks in June and
Speaker 3: during that time other per since had access to my home,
Speaker 3: giving rise to the opportunity for someone to obtain footage
Speaker 3: of my premises. I am extremely disappointed by this and
Speaker 3: a sure South Australians that I would never take illicit substances.
Speaker 3: I never have and I never will. Now, we're not
Speaker 3: suggesting any wrongdoing on mister Spears's behalf here, but we're
Speaker 3: not saying these substances are even illegal. But Caroline, this
Speaker 3: is an astonishing story, a very twenty twenty four story.
Speaker 7: It is.
Speaker 6: Remember Brita when the excuse when politicians and other high
Speaker 6: profile people were caught out doing bad things online, they
Speaker 6: would say I've been hacked, someone's locked into my account
Speaker 6: and sexted someone. Now the excuse for twenty twenty four
Speaker 6: seems to be it's a deep fake. But the newspaper
Speaker 6: the Advertiser, who obtained these images have said they've checked
Speaker 6: the metadata. He was in the country when they were taken.
Speaker 6: They've also consulted with a forensics expert that the courts
Speaker 6: used that has said it doesn't appear that there were
Speaker 6: any any tampering or alterations, so it doesn't appear to
Speaker 6: be exactly how David Spears may be putting it.
Speaker 3: Caroline Marcus, thank you for your time this evening. Now
Speaker 3: they're left up becoming increasingly desperate and resorting to some
Speaker 3: ugly tactics. That's evident in the media too, with far
Speaker 3: left side criche publishing this bit of slander against Liberal
Speaker 3: leader Peter Dutta, and they have concluded that he is
Speaker 3: racist and this is their evidence.
Speaker 2: Brace yourself.
Speaker 3: So the number one reason he walked out of Parliament
Speaker 3: rather than here, the then Prime Minister Kevin Wright apologized
Speaker 3: to the so called stolen generations. He did mention the
Speaker 3: problem of rising African gang violence in Melbourne. He pointed
Speaker 3: out the need to counter Chinese aggression to keep peace
Speaker 3: in our region, and of course, most recently he called
Speaker 3: for a pause on visas for Gazans until thoroughchecks could
Speaker 3: be conducted. Joining me now as former Speaker of the
Speaker 3: House and Liberal National MP for Fisher Andrew Wallace. Andrew,
Speaker 3: what is your response to your leader being labeled racist?
Speaker 8: Well, you can always count on the left Rita to
Speaker 8: pull out the racist card when they're in strife, and
Speaker 8: boy are they in strife now. Look, I've known Peter
Speaker 8: for a long time. He's been a police officer for
Speaker 8: nine years. He's been the Immigration Minister, the Home Affairs Minister.
Speaker 8: He has had some tough portfolios and now he's in
Speaker 8: his toughest portfolio as the leader.
Speaker 9: Of the Opposition.
Speaker 8: But I can tell you now, and I can tell
Speaker 8: you your viewers, that you will not find a man
Speaker 8: who is more committed to the safety and security.
Speaker 9: Of Australians than Peter Dutton.
Speaker 8: And look, when you've seen everything that's gone on with
Speaker 8: Andrew Giles as the Immigration Minister and how poorly the
Speaker 8: Labor Party are conducting themselves from a national security perspective,
Speaker 8: what do you want? Do you want someone like Andrew
Speaker 8: Giles looking after the country? From an immigration perspective, or
Speaker 8: do you want someone like Peter Dutton calling the shots?
Speaker 9: I know which I'd rather.
Speaker 2: Do you think you should consider legal action here?
Speaker 3: To be labeled a racist so blatantly by a publication,
Speaker 3: it goes beyond just the sort of criticism politicians expect
Speaker 3: to get.
Speaker 2: From the media.
Speaker 8: Well, Rita, I've been a barrister for over twenty years
Speaker 8: and my first advice to anybody that is considering legal
Speaker 8: action is don't No one wins when you go down
Speaker 8: that route.
Speaker 9: It becomes a win for lawyers and lawyers only.
Speaker 8: So you know, if Peter was to ask me my views,
Speaker 8: I'd say no, But of course it's a matter for Peter.
Speaker 9: But you know, this is not the first time we've
Speaker 9: heard Peter labeled as that.
Speaker 8: We heard the Member Orringa in the Parliament recently. Yes,
Speaker 8: this is someone who has stood on a platform of
Speaker 8: integrity and you know when someone is really struggling politically
Speaker 8: when they pull a racist card.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and that was quite a bizarre performance from Zali
Speaker 3: Steel because she withdrew the comment in parliament, then came
Speaker 3: on Sky News and repeated it. Now let's move along
Speaker 3: to the federal government. Planning to introduce a social media
Speaker 3: band for children nationwide within the next twelve months. The
Speaker 3: age limit has not yet been determined. The Prime ministers
Speaker 3: following South Australia's lead here they are proposing a band
Speaker 3: for those aged thirteen and under. But Andrew, how will
Speaker 3: this be in force? How will this age verification work?
Speaker 3: It doesn't work on porn sites, haws are going to
Speaker 3: work with social media sites?
Speaker 9: Well read, let me correct you on something there.
Speaker 8: Anthony Alberizi has been dragged, kicking and screaming on his
Speaker 8: ultimate position in relation to social media bands. In June
Speaker 8: of this year, Peter Dutton came out very strongly and
Speaker 8: said that a Dutton elected government would ensure that we
Speaker 8: had a minimum of sixteen years of age for social
Speaker 8: media and we would do that in the first hundred days. Now,
Speaker 8: it's really interesting that Peter Melanowskis came out yesterday and
Speaker 8: gave a watered down version of that. But what it
Speaker 8: did it made Anthony Albaneasy look absolutely impotent because he
Speaker 8: was the one that stood up the Select Committee on
Speaker 8: which I'm on, which is examining this very issue. So
Speaker 8: we are still processing and having evidence.
Speaker 9: Before us and because Peter Melanowskis came out and said
Speaker 9: what he said.
Speaker 8: Yesterday, Elbows jumped out in a half baked measure, felt
Speaker 8: that he really needed to make a stand on this.
Speaker 8: But he's still he's still can't say what age group
Speaker 8: this will apply to. Well, you know, the Coalition has
Speaker 8: been very strong on this. Peter Dutton has led the
Speaker 8: way on this from as early as June this year,
Speaker 8: saying that we would mandate a minimum age of sixteen.
Speaker 8: What parents are telling me is that they need that
Speaker 8: legal protection because you know, you know, I don't know
Speaker 8: if you're a parent, reader, but certainly I've had four
Speaker 8: daughters and kids will always use the oh you know,
Speaker 8: Mary's mum and dad let her. Why won't you let
Speaker 8: me line We've all experienced as.
Speaker 2: There's always the peer pressure. Andrew Willis, thanks for.
Speaker 9: Your time, Thanks reader.
Speaker 3: Joining me now is commentator and best selling author Douglas
Speaker 3: Murray Douglas. The first and only debate between Kamala Harris
Speaker 3: and Donald Trump is just hours away.
Speaker 2: The VEEPS team.
Speaker 3: Has been desperately trying to change the agree to debate rules.
Speaker 3: If you were advising the Vice president, how would you
Speaker 3: tell her to approach this clash.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, she's got several problems on her hands,
Speaker 5: hasn't she, Because on the one hand, she's got to
Speaker 5: make sure that she says absolutely nothing, and she's quite
Speaker 5: good at that. It has to be said, but she
Speaker 5: has to say absolutely nothing because we know that many
Speaker 5: of the policies that she would bring in, as Bernie
Speaker 5: Sanders admitted this week, would be pretty radical and would
Speaker 5: put off the public. At the same time, there might
Speaker 5: still be some journalists in America and elsewhere who will
Speaker 5: notice that she has to say something. I suspect that
Speaker 5: what she's going to do, and what her advisors will
Speaker 5: have told her to do, is to try to trap Trump,
Speaker 5: and they will do that by getting her to do
Speaker 5: something like the shtick she did in the last debate
Speaker 5: when she was running for VEEP and against against Donald
Speaker 5: Trump and Mike Pence. And you remember she kept saying
Speaker 5: to Mike Pence, I'm speaking, excuse me what I am
Speaker 5: And it was a very clear attempt to sort of
Speaker 5: say I'm a woman. I'm also a woman of color.
Speaker 5: And therefore if you in any way not just interrupt me,
Speaker 5: but counter me, you're kind of countering a woman of
Speaker 5: color and you know, steady on there, don't you realize
Speaker 5: you're not allowed to do that. I don't think she'll
Speaker 5: use that technique, but I bet they've come up with
Speaker 5: a new one that's equally irritating and equally designed to
Speaker 5: effectively trap her opponent.
Speaker 3: And it will be something that the media absolutely love, and.
Speaker 2: They'll promote it as a massive win.
Speaker 3: And yet the rest of the viewing public, not all
Speaker 3: of them, but many of them will find irritating.
Speaker 2: Now, what does Trump have to do to get in
Speaker 2: her head?
Speaker 3: Should he try to throw her off? Pose questions the
Speaker 3: debate moderators are not asking, or is it better off
Speaker 3: just saying as little as possible and letting her talk?
Speaker 5: Well that it's a very interesting one, this, I mean,
Speaker 5: everybody sort of has ideas of how to do this,
Speaker 5: and of course, you know, very few people have actually
Speaker 5: been on the presidential stage or had a debate with
Speaker 5: these kinds of stakes. I think that there's it's very
Speaker 5: interesting watching Trump in recent weeks as he's he's you know,
Speaker 5: clearly been advised, you know, stick to policy, and as
Speaker 5: he said at one of the rallies the other the
Speaker 5: other week, you know, the Democrats have been very very
Speaker 5: personal against him, and how could he resist getting personal?
Speaker 5: In response that said, it's an extremely difficult columbrum for him.
Speaker 5: Getting personal. If she gets personal, and I think she's
Speaker 5: bound to, getting personal is kind of inevitable. And if
Speaker 5: he was to, as it were, rise above it, he
Speaker 5: might well annoy a lot of his base. Who will
Speaker 5: he will say, you know, we want to see you
Speaker 5: pummel her effectively. So it's a very very tricky situation
Speaker 5: he's in. This is why, of course the Democrats have
Speaker 5: put her forward. Is it's meant to sort of snooker Trump. Nevertheless,
Speaker 5: there are two very good lines of attack that he
Speaker 5: could do. One is to actually ask her to get
Speaker 5: specific on any policy, literally, any policy reata. It could
Speaker 5: be anything from our education to foreign policy, taxation policy,
Speaker 5: abtually any key policy, and just get her to give
Speaker 5: any detail on it, not to say the importance of
Speaker 5: education is something we must remember and that's why education matters,
Speaker 5: and let's all think about that for a moment. Don't
Speaker 5: let her do any of that. Actually ask her some detail.
Speaker 5: That's the first thing he could do. The second thing
Speaker 5: he could do is ask her how she squares this
Speaker 5: circle of this campaign is about fixing America, and yet
Speaker 5: I'm proud of what Joe Biden and I have accomplished
Speaker 5: in the last four years. There is a disconnect between
Speaker 5: those two things. Can he tease out of her what
Speaker 5: her real thinking is? We'll see.
Speaker 3: That's a very good point, because not only has she
Speaker 3: been part of the Biden Harris administration, We've had the
Speaker 3: Democrats in power twelve of the last sixteen years, so
Speaker 3: this continuous There's a better way, the change we desperately need. Well,
Speaker 3: how long do you need to actually implement it? We
Speaker 3: are getting finally a few policy positions articulated on the
Speaker 3: official Harris campaign website and Douglas she wants to provide
Speaker 3: a pathway to citizenship for migrants who have crossed into
Speaker 3: the border over the border illegally. This is in stark
Speaker 3: contrast to Donald Trump, whose policy is to enact a
Speaker 3: massive deportation initiative to get rid of illegal immigrants from
Speaker 3: the country. How do you think this is going to
Speaker 3: play at You know, this.
Speaker 5: Has played out so many times in America in recent decades.
Speaker 5: When you have a completely porous border, there is always
Speaker 5: this temptation for people to say, why don't we put
Speaker 5: a pathway to citizenship for people who are in America already,
Speaker 5: and instead of having them work in the shadow economy,
Speaker 5: in the black market and so on, let's bring them in,
Speaker 5: make them taxpayers, make them citizens, and so on. There's
Speaker 5: in one way, this is a perfectly reasonable argument. On
Speaker 5: the other hand, it's absolutely lethal because what it does is,
Speaker 5: after the millions of people who've already broken into America
Speaker 5: through the southern border illegally, it simply encourages more to come.
Speaker 5: Why because it says, you know, you've just got to
Speaker 5: get in, you'll get everything that you need, and you
Speaker 5: will eventually be actually a citizen. In other words, the
Speaker 5: crime of breaking into the country illegally will effectively not
Speaker 5: be judged to be a crime, won't be any punishment
Speaker 5: for it. The problem about this is, and it's the
Speaker 5: same problem with America that Europe has been going through.
Speaker 5: Its the same problem Britain's going through. It's the same
Speaker 5: problem that Australia has been challenged by in the past.
Speaker 5: As you know, although Australia has been one of the
Speaker 5: relatively same countries on this, the problem with it is
Speaker 5: not the people who have already come. It's the millions
Speaker 5: upon millions of people who would like to come and
Speaker 5: who the minute that you make that pathway from being
Speaker 5: an illegal, who breaks in being a citizen, and the
Speaker 5: minute you make that pathway that easy, it's just millions
Speaker 5: upon millions of people who will want to follow in
Speaker 5: the footsteps of those people. So it's always there, This idea,
Speaker 5: the pathway to systemship is always there as a temptation
Speaker 5: for politicians, but they leave for their successes a bigger
Speaker 5: and bigger nightmare.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you're just creating more poor factors. You're putting more
Speaker 3: sugar on the table, as they say. And I do
Speaker 3: wonder whether Democrats would be so keen on this path
Speaker 3: to citizenship if they weren't counting on these new citizens
Speaker 3: voting for them. Perhaps they're are miscalculating there, but I
Speaker 3: think in the past they've been fairly safe in thinking
Speaker 3: these new migrants who've been effectively awarded for crossing the
Speaker 3: border illegally will support us with their vote.
Speaker 2: Now, illegal immigrants are causing all.
Speaker 3: Sorts of serious issues for people across many towns in
Speaker 3: the US. It's not just those border towns anymore. We've
Speaker 3: had a armed Venezuelan gangs taking over apartment buildings in
Speaker 3: Colorado to thousands of immigrants from Haiti being placed in
Speaker 3: a little town called Springfield, Ohio. This is a town
Speaker 3: with a population of less than sixty thousand Douglas, and
Speaker 3: the mayor there says they've been overwhelmed by fourteen to
Speaker 3: twenty thousand migrants that have been brought in by authorities.
Speaker 2: The locals have had enough.
Speaker 10: I really challenge you guys to get out here, do something.
Speaker 10: These Pasians are running into trash cans, they're running into buildings,
Speaker 10: they're running into if looking cars in the middle of
Speaker 10: the street.
Speaker 2: Douglas.
Speaker 3: The locals there are not getting to the services they
Speaker 3: need because they're being overwhelmed by these new.
Speaker 2: Migrants that have arrived. And when you think about the.
Speaker 3: Numbers, a town of less than sixty thousand to suddenly
Speaker 3: have anywhere between fourteen and twenty thousand new people placed
Speaker 3: in it, and you can understand why they're overwhelmed.
Speaker 5: I mean, I've seen this so many times in so
Speaker 5: many other Western countries Rita. It's exactly the sort of
Speaker 5: thing that happened in Sweden since twenty fifteen. It's exactly
Speaker 5: the same thing that's happened in towns in Germany and elsewhere,
Speaker 5: and it's always the same story, is that the locals
Speaker 5: say we can't put up with this, and central or
Speaker 5: local government says, tough luck, you're going to have to.
Speaker 5: And I think this is profoundly im moral on the
Speaker 5: part of politicians. I think it's a wicked thing to do.
Speaker 5: The first duty of politicians is to look after the
Speaker 5: interests of the people who put them in power, the voters.
Speaker 5: It's not to make sure that everyone in Venezuela who
Speaker 5: wants to flee and break into a condo flat gets
Speaker 5: the right to do so. And I think it's an
Speaker 5: unbelievable offering up a responsibility, abdication of responsibility by politicians,
Speaker 5: And as I said earlier, they leave a much bigger
Speaker 5: mess for the people coming after them.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Now let's move to the UK.
Speaker 3: The BBC's israel Her mass coverage is said to breach
Speaker 3: the broadcaster's own editorial guidelines over fifteen hundred times. This
Speaker 3: is according to a new report compiled by a team
Speaker 3: of lawyers and data scientists Douglas.
Speaker 2: They analyze some nine million.
Speaker 3: Words of coverage across several languages and different platforms. The
Speaker 3: question has to be asked, why does the BBC have
Speaker 3: this deeply worrying pattern of bias, bias against Israel.
Speaker 5: It always has done. I'm slightly surprised that they've been
Speaker 5: found to have only fifteen hundred breaches of their own
Speaker 5: guidelines in recent I had put the figure rather higher
Speaker 5: than that. There was a report some years ago into
Speaker 5: the BBC's anti as well bias inside the BBC, and
Speaker 5: the report was never released, and I suspect, as many
Speaker 5: other people do, that it's because it came to the
Speaker 5: same conclusions that this report has come to. You can
Speaker 5: absolutely smell it in broadcasting house. There's a straightforward editorial
Speaker 5: lie on the Israel issue, which is that the BBC
Speaker 5: believes that Israel always is in the wrong and can
Speaker 5: do no right, and it's coverage is grossly unfair. It
Speaker 5: has been for years, and I think this is something
Speaker 5: that should be should be addressed. I mean, you see
Speaker 5: it in headline after headline, day after day. The BBC
Speaker 5: will report things from effectively the angle of Hamaz. It
Speaker 5: happened recently with the issue of the four hostages who
Speaker 5: were killed in captivity. The way in which the BBC
Speaker 5: reported this it was as if the Israelis have killed
Speaker 5: the Israeli hostages. It was as if he is Raeli
Speaker 5: Prime ministered the Israeli hostages. The whole onus of the
Speaker 5: coverage was as if there was an Israeli mistake or
Speaker 5: error or Israelian transigence that had caused it. And the
Speaker 5: coverage did not acknowledge the fact that in most civilized
Speaker 5: media entities, as well as societies, it is deemed to
Speaker 5: be wrong to break into some somebody else's country, break
Speaker 5: into their house, fill their citizens, and internap them, then
Speaker 5: hold them in tunnels for almost a year and then
Speaker 5: shoot them in the head. Most people would regard that
Speaker 5: as being on the people who did it. Oh not
Speaker 5: the BBC, because you can always find Jeremy Bowen or
Speaker 5: another of their correspondents always taking the side always of
Speaker 5: just anyone who's anti Israel. It's an endemic bias in
Speaker 5: the BBC, completely sick. And of course they're welcome to
Speaker 5: do that. If they want to just be a pro
Speaker 5: Hamas anti Israel channel, they can do that. But there's
Speaker 5: a caveat with them, which is that they're not in
Speaker 5: the free market, and on this exchange of free ideas
Speaker 5: they're paid for by the license pairs, by the taxpayers
Speaker 5: in the UK. So that's why this matters. It's not
Speaker 5: like The Guardian, the guy I think can do what
Speaker 5: it wants. This is the national broadcaster, and so I
Speaker 5: think that a better standard should be expected of them,
Speaker 5: and indeed demanded.
Speaker 2: Now, before you.
Speaker 3: Go, Princess Kate has just in recent hours released a
Speaker 3: video announcing she has completed her chemo therapy treatment.
Speaker 11: To finally completed my chemotherapy treatment. The last nine months
Speaker 11: have been incredibly tough for us as a family. Life.
Speaker 11: As you know, it can change in an instant and
Speaker 11: we've had to find a way to navigate the stormy
Speaker 11: waters and road unknown.
Speaker 2: Douglas.
Speaker 3: She also speaks about looking forward to being back at
Speaker 3: work and undertaking public engagements. It's a beautifully shot video,
Speaker 3: i've got to say, has.
Speaker 2: Astonished Royal watches. I love it.
Speaker 3: I think we should be have more communication like this.
Speaker 3: There was so much secrecy around her treatment and she's
Speaker 3: now coming out and sharing it all with the world.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the first time I've seen it. It's a
Speaker 5: fake glossy but look it's a happy story at a
Speaker 5: time when happy stories, and you know, she's been remarkable
Speaker 5: figure in public life ever since she first entered public life.
Speaker 5: Unlike some people we could think of, she's been extraordinarily
Speaker 5: devoted in her work and you know, I hope that
Speaker 5: her return to public life. I think it will be seen,
Speaker 5: it will be welcomed enormously warmly by the British public
Speaker 5: and others. She's never put a foot wrong since since she,
Speaker 5: you know, became a public figure in one of the
Speaker 5: toughest jobs in the world in a way, because you know,
Speaker 5: if she's in one of those visions where if you've
Speaker 5: scowled once, you'd get a lifelong reputation for being a
Speaker 5: grum And so it's wonderful that she'll be back. The
Speaker 5: royal family has got rather too few working members at
Speaker 5: the moment, so having one of the absolute alist royals
Speaker 5: back is good news.
Speaker 3: And she's showing such enormous grist because the couple you
Speaker 3: haven't mentioned, Harry Meghan. I've poured all sorts of vitriol
Speaker 3: her way and her husband's way. She knows she can't respond.
Speaker 3: She just has to keep a dignified silence, which must
Speaker 3: be enormously difficult. But she's done it. She's done her duty.
Speaker 3: And we thank her for it. Douglas Murray, thank you
Speaker 3: for your time this evening. Thank you still to come
Speaker 3: an extended edition of Lefties Losing It. You're welcome, welcome back.
Speaker 3: Now it's time for Lefties Losing It, and I have
Speaker 3: for you here a.
Speaker 2: Uniquely annoying Lefty.
Speaker 3: Losing It about a family having a private conversation about
Speaker 3: folks confused about their gender.
Speaker 4: Hi, Harriett, have you ever beIN p to b headcrimed?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 2: I have, so let me tell you about it.
Speaker 4: Okay, so yesterday I was at work serving this family
Speaker 4: that were sitting there like the three raised men, and
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, out of the mom's mouth,
Speaker 4: I hear the trigger was none binary and gender fluid
Speaker 4: and quote as in session and my ears are turned on.
Speaker 5: Let's do this.
Speaker 4: So basically, the mom was trying to explain to the
Speaker 4: dad what it meant to be non binary or gender fluid.
Speaker 4: After a few minutes go by, the dad responds in
Speaker 4: the same way that every guy that looks like him
Speaker 4: would and says, you know, I understand where they're coming from,
Speaker 4: but if you're biologically a male or female, that's what
Speaker 4: you are. And then I'm standing there on display.
Speaker 3: Just exhausting, draining, draining. Now, let's hear from a Democrat congresswoman,
Speaker 3: Magazine Waters, who claims Republicans and those upset with a
Speaker 3: number of immigrants from Haiti being deposited into their small towns.
Speaker 2: Well they just racist. There could be no other explanation.
Speaker 12: Well, let me just say this that Haitians have been
Speaker 12: the victims of you know, not only our country but
Speaker 12: Canada and France. For you is historically they're black, they're poor.
Speaker 12: It supports country in the hemisphere. They have been exploited
Speaker 12: and it continues all the time. Yes, I think they're
Speaker 12: treated differently because they're black, because they're Haitians.
Speaker 3: But here is a local in Springfield, Ohio who doesn't
Speaker 3: really see it that way, and he doesn't exactly fit
Speaker 3: Maxine Waters white supremacists race beating talk.
Speaker 2: Let's hear from him.
Speaker 10: I think it's like kind of odd that like a
Speaker 10: guy like me has to come out from doing what
Speaker 10: I do on a daily basis to have fun because
Speaker 10: I see what's going on in these streets and I
Speaker 10: see you guys are sitting up there in them comfy
Speaker 10: chairs and suits like and I'm getting out here every
Speaker 10: day and I'm broadcasting this and you guys are just
Speaker 10: sitting up there and suits or something like, I really
Speaker 10: challenge you guys to get out here and do something.
Speaker 10: These Haitians are running into trash cans, they're running into buildings,
Speaker 10: they're running into they flipping cars in the middle of
Speaker 10: the street. And I don't know how like y'all can
Speaker 10: be comfortable with this, Like I don't know like who's
Speaker 10: getting paid from it. I feel like I honestly feel
Speaker 10: like someone's.
Speaker 9: Getting paid from it.
Speaker 10: In the background, they dropping that you got a bunch
Speaker 10: of people on a bus getting dropped off at a
Speaker 10: gas station to come down here. I know a single
Speaker 10: mom that FaceTime met tonight, FaceTime me this morning at
Speaker 10: the welfare office that really need like that really needs something,
Speaker 10: and it's nothing but immigrants over there.
Speaker 3: And here is Kamala Harris taking credit for giving temporary
Speaker 3: protection status to over one hundred thousand migrants from Haiti.
Speaker 7: That is why also, starting with our administration, we gave
Speaker 7: TPS temporary protected status to Haitian migrants fifty five thousand,
Speaker 7: and then more recently we extended temporary protected status to
Speaker 7: over one hundred thousand Haitian migrants for that very reason
Speaker 7: that they need support, they need protection.
Speaker 3: Now the Mail Online is reporting that Kamala Harris is
Speaker 3: prepping for the debate by practicing with Ai in an
Speaker 3: orange wig. No reports yet whether it's this guy.
Speaker 13: Ladies and gentlemen, the real president of the United States.
Speaker 14: Me what an unbelievable experience it is, What a great
Speaker 14: show this could be. Instead, we've got an absolute idiot
Speaker 14: here running the show.
Speaker 3: That's, of course, the great Shane Gilles, whose Trump is
Speaker 3: the best in the business, and he stayed in character
Speaker 3: there for two hours for that Kiltny episode.
Speaker 2: Look it up, thank me later. Most of it is
Speaker 2: too blue for a.
Speaker 3: Family show like this. Now to a lefty teacher losing it.
Speaker 3: This dude with the proud trans teacher shirt teaches in
Speaker 3: Rhode Island, and watch this totally sane and rational behavior
Speaker 3: as he destroys a Trump sign.
Speaker 7: Yes, my name is.
Speaker 15: Handy Grinder and I'm working at the one store on floor.
Speaker 2: You're threatening my life.
Speaker 5: He's trying to job you, so we're trying to hit it.
Speaker 5: He's trying to pair my signs.
Speaker 3: Yet, and here is that same teacher claiming he is
Speaker 3: off on sickly due to injuries caused by transphobia in
Speaker 3: the classroom.
Speaker 15: School teacher, and I'm currently out on sickly owing to
Speaker 15: injury in performance of job related tasks in the workplace
Speaker 15: caused by classroom transphobia and homophobia owing to my own
Speaker 15: beliefs and opposition to the school to prison pipeline. This
Speaker 15: is a complicated situation, particularly because it is directly related
Speaker 15: to my gender identity and sexuality and homophobia in the classroom.
Speaker 2: Good luck kids.
Speaker 3: Now we've seen the gold Staff family is ignored by
Speaker 3: Biden and Kamala Harris. We' seeing them attacked by the
Speaker 3: ugliest segments of the media.
Speaker 2: And social media too.
Speaker 3: Yes, some left is losing it are laying the boots
Speaker 3: into gold Star families.
Speaker 16: I am angry at the gold Star families who invited
Speaker 16: Trump to Arlington because they decided, in their adoration for
Speaker 16: Trump that it was okay to let Trump his campaign
Speaker 16: staff and his campaign team's.
Speaker 2: Videographer and photographer.
Speaker 16: On top of all of the aids and security, they
Speaker 16: invited them to Arlington to traps over other people's children's graves.
Speaker 2: Just gross and unhinged.
Speaker 3: Now, we always enjoy watching Bill Maher being schooled by
Speaker 3: his own guests. And that's precisely what the editor in
Speaker 3: chief of National Review did, Rich Lowry, watch.
Speaker 1: This to get rid of him, because if he lost
Speaker 1: another election, that would be twenty eighteen, twenty twenty, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty twenty four. I would think, and I've
Speaker 1: certainly been the last one to say Trump's over now,
Speaker 1: lots of people do. I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: But I think this would be it for him. I
Speaker 1: think he'd still be He's not like Joe Biden. He's
Speaker 1: not going to go peacefully and out to pasture. But
Speaker 1: Republicans will have had enough of Trump. Not of Trump
Speaker 1: isn't and it can you be done with all that?
Speaker 17: You can't be certain of that bill. The one thing
Speaker 17: that's certainly if you lose is Kama Harrison President of
Speaker 17: the United States. And I wholly oppose almost every single
Speaker 17: one of her positions. I think she's a vacuates one opportunist.
Speaker 17: I totally reject the idea that in the space of
Speaker 17: forty eight hours she went from a subpar vice president
Speaker 17: everyone recognized as such all of a sudden of the
Speaker 17: second coming of Barack Obama.
Speaker 3: It is preposterous and the lessons did not end their
Speaker 3: what yere is Larry and Hayshaw McMaster school, MA Democrat
Speaker 3: John Avlon and the lefty audience.
Speaker 18: We've got one guy saying we should we should pull
Speaker 18: out of NATO, right, we should not.
Speaker 9: Donald Putin could do whatever.
Speaker 18: The Holly wants, basically giving a yellow light to China
Speaker 18: on Taiwan. I mean, you know, the autocratic alliance you
Speaker 18: warn about is in many cases rooting rooting for Donald
Speaker 18: Trump because they think it leads to American division and decline.
Speaker 18: But the fact is is that right now for strong
Speaker 18: on national security, one party party's leader seems to be
Speaker 18: trying to weaken NATO, and the other party has has
Speaker 18: expanded it in strengthen except.
Speaker 17: He supposedly forced by Trump to do it. Withdrawal totally dishonorable,
Speaker 17: bad disgrace. His presidency has not recovered from it since,
Speaker 17: and our position abroad hasn't you control it?
Speaker 19: Direct line from that disastrous, humiliating withdrawal to the reinvasion
Speaker 19: of Ukraine in February of twenty twenty two. I mean,
Speaker 19: I think what's weakness is the what is provocative is
Speaker 19: the perception of weakness.
Speaker 3: Now, let's end left is losing it with comic Andy
Speaker 3: Hayes talking about why it's so much harder.
Speaker 2: To live life as a lefty. This is actually pretty fun.
Speaker 13: I am a liberal. I don't like it. It's not fun.
Speaker 13: We all know that it's not fun. It's a full
Speaker 13: time job. Conservatives, that must be so easy. You're not
Speaker 13: learning any pronouns. You're leaving your air conditioning on, You're
Speaker 13: throwing all your garbage in one hole. I'm out of here.
Speaker 13: I'm like, did the composts go out? Is the compost out?
Speaker 9: How are the refugees? Are the refugees all right?
Speaker 13: What's the air quality index today? I remember last year
Speaker 13: in New York January fifteenth, it was seventy five degrees
Speaker 13: and all of us New Yorkers, all of us liberal
Speaker 13: New Yorkers, we had to go outside and pretend that
Speaker 13: was bad. We had to go out in a beautiful
Speaker 13: January day and be like this sucks, right, climate change?
Speaker 13: I'm in a T shirt.
Speaker 2: This is awful.
Speaker 3: Still to come, plenty more lefties losing it, content with
Speaker 3: the brilliant Josh Hammer.
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
Speaker 3: The one and only debate between Donald Trump and Kamala
Speaker 3: Harris is on tomorrow, and let's take a quick look
Speaker 3: at the ABC moderators. David Muir and Lindsey Davis are
Speaker 3: hardly impartial. Here is just a little taste of their
Speaker 3: anti Trump bias. These are comments from less than a
Speaker 3: month ago from Davis linking Trump to a white supremacist cause.
Speaker 20: Former President Donald Trump is expected to go campaign and
Speaker 20: Howard Michigan tomorrow. Many people are aware of that a
Speaker 20: month ago in Howell KKK Peltester's marchmist roots with the
Speaker 20: white robes on and suggested that they support Donald Trump.
Speaker 20: I'm curious if if you make anything about that connection
Speaker 20: in his going in particular to howld tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Joining me now is Newsweek Senior editor at Large and
Speaker 3: Article three Project Senior Council Josh Hamma. Josh, that was
Speaker 3: a bizarre question from an ABC anchor. Well, Tomorrow's debate
Speaker 3: BA level playing.
Speaker 21: Field, Probably not, if I had to guess, I mean.
Speaker 21: ABC News, of course, would be the same American media
Speaker 21: outlet that hires George Stephanopolis to anchor its Sunday news show.
Speaker 21: That people will probably recall that George Stefanopolis was one
Speaker 21: of the pre eminent Clinton campaign staffers, along with Jimmy
Speaker 21: Carvill back in nineteen ninety two. I mean, he is
Speaker 21: about as partisan a Democrat as it gets in all
Speaker 21: of the mainstream corporate media. This is not an objective
Speaker 21: outlet at all. Actually read a if I think back,
Speaker 21: it was on the precipice of the twenty twenty presidential election.
Speaker 21: Wisconsin has become one of America's foremost swing states. It
Speaker 21: was an ABC News poll just a handful of days
Speaker 21: prior to the twenty twenty election that showed back then
Speaker 21: that Joe Biden was allegedly up by seventeen points on
Speaker 21: Donald Trump and Wisconsin the final mark and a victory
Speaker 21: and ended up being less than one point. So, I mean,
Speaker 21: there's definitely something in the water at ABC News. Fortunately
Speaker 21: for Donald Trump, you know, if he plays his cards right,
Speaker 21: it doesn't really matter. I think how the moderators approach this.
Speaker 21: So the moderator is Kamala Harris Rita. They're going to
Speaker 21: do everything they can to steer the conversation to two topics.
Speaker 21: In particular, they're gonna do everything they can to steer
Speaker 21: the conversation to so called our democracy because they painted
Speaker 21: Donald Trump out to be a historical threat to the
Speaker 21: Constitution and all that we stand for. The near assassination
Speaker 21: of him a month and a half ago has not
Speaker 21: slowed them down at all. They have that issue, and
Speaker 21: then they have the abortion issue. If Donald Trump can
Speaker 21: quickly respond to those two and then pivot to all
Speaker 21: the other issues, namely immigration, the economy, inflation, and crime,
Speaker 21: those are really the four issues right now. Those are
Speaker 21: the four issues that the American people tell pulsters they
Speaker 21: care most about. And Donald Trump is more trusted on
Speaker 21: each of those four issues. So if he can quickly pivot,
Speaker 21: so for example, on the question of our democracy, which
Speaker 21: I'm sure is going to compet some point, all he
Speaker 21: has to do. He's looking to the camera and very
Speaker 21: straightforward and clearly say there is one person on this
Speaker 21: steege whose Department of Justice is trying to incarsrate the opposition,
Speaker 21: and guess what, it's not me, and then immediately pivot
Speaker 21: to the economy, immigration, and so forth. If he can
Speaker 21: do that, he's going to be in great shape.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 3: And I think he also has to just resist talking,
Speaker 3: because the more Kamala talks, the more trouble she gets
Speaker 3: herself into. And I think that will be difficult for
Speaker 3: Donald Trump, but if he can restrain himself, it would
Speaker 3: be fantastic. The Mail Online is revealing that Kamala Harris
Speaker 3: is prepping for this debate by practicing against an AID.
Speaker 2: In an Orange wig.
Speaker 3: No reports yet whether it's this guy my favorite Trump impersonator.
Speaker 3: What do you think about this? Is this a sign
Speaker 3: that she's taking it deadly seriously or a sign that
Speaker 3: a campaign isn't really run by adults?
Speaker 21: Well, Damala Harris is in serious trouble. I mean Nate Silver,
Speaker 21: who runs five thirty eight and he's probably America's foremost
Speaker 21: political odds horse race prognosticare essentially the best statistical analyst
Speaker 21: we have here now. Now, he himself is a is
Speaker 21: a liberal leaning guy. I mean he calls it roughly straight.
Speaker 21: But no one doubts that Nate Silver is a liberal.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 21: His model actually just a few hours ago actually changed
Speaker 21: to Donald Trump having about a sixty five to sixty
Speaker 21: six percent chance of winning the election. In fact, according
Speaker 21: to Nate Silver's current model, Donald Trump is favored in
Speaker 21: literally every single swing state right now, Nevada, Arizona, Georgia,
Speaker 21: North Carolina, and all three of the big Rust Belt
Speaker 21: states of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, especially Pennsylvania, which is
Speaker 21: the largest electoral college prize of them all of all
Speaker 21: the Swings states. So Donald Trump is actually in very
Speaker 21: good shape right now. And you know, there were a
Speaker 21: lot of people Rita who after they pulled the bloodless
Speaker 21: cup of Joe Biden and inserted the cackling communists from California,
Speaker 21: Kamala Harris in Joe Biden's stead, there are a lot
Speaker 21: of people people who started freaking out. Yes, the polls
Speaker 21: tied in there. You know, I have to say, I
Speaker 21: don't want to pat myself in the back too hard,
Speaker 21: but I was not one of them, because, as you
Speaker 21: just said, the more people that actually listen to and
Speaker 21: hear Kamala Harris talk, it's like an immediate repulsion. I mean,
Speaker 21: it's like oil on water. The woman is just not
Speaker 21: likable and she's I've obviously been profoundly terrible as an
Speaker 21: actual leader. You know, she's been vice president of one
Speaker 21: of the worst administrations in the entire history of the Republic.
Speaker 21: Her presidential campaign twenty twenty bout out well before the
Speaker 21: first votes were've been cast in Iowa. I could go
Speaker 21: on here, but she's in big trouble, and what that
Speaker 21: means in concrete, tangible terms is that she has a
Speaker 21: lot on the line in this debate. So I'm not
Speaker 21: surprised that that she's pulling out all these gimmicks, these stunts,
Speaker 21: the orange haired wig or whatever they're because the stakes
Speaker 21: are really really high for her, I would argue even
Speaker 21: higher than for Donald Trump himself.
Speaker 3: I agree with you there. I think the polls. Trump
Speaker 3: always performs that poorly in polls compared.
Speaker 2: To where is support really.
Speaker 3: If if they're saying he's leading by three, he can
Speaker 3: be sure he's probably leading by eight or nine. Now,
Speaker 3: that's always been the experience with his numbers, including in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty. Now there's reports that Kamala Harris is looking
Speaker 3: to name hard left Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison as
Speaker 3: the US's top copper. Campaign team has reportedly told Arab
Speaker 3: American leaders in Detroit that she could name Ellison, the
Speaker 3: special prosecutor and the George Floyd case, as attorney general
Speaker 3: as part of her administration. Trump officials told Fox News
Speaker 3: Keith Ellison would be a natural fit in a Kamala
Speaker 3: Harris administration.
Speaker 2: Both are radical.
Speaker 3: Liberals who support ending cash bail and releasing violent criminals
Speaker 3: into American neighborhoods. Do we take these reports seriously?
Speaker 8: Josh?
Speaker 3: And she's already selected Tim Walls as her running mate.
Speaker 3: How much more radically left can her administration be.
Speaker 9: Read?
Speaker 21: I think you might be surprised, and God forbid, I
Speaker 21: think that I am my fellow Americans might be surprised.
Speaker 21: Comes January twenty twenty five, if God forbid this ticket
Speaker 21: actually prevails here. You know, Keith Ellison is not just
Speaker 21: a radical when it comes to so called criminal justice reform,
Speaker 21: when it comes to ending cash bail, when it comes
Speaker 21: to jailbreak, when it comes to all these other post
Speaker 21: George Floyd, post racial reckoning left wing agendas. You know,
Speaker 21: the man is also fundamentally an Islamist. I mean he
Speaker 21: is as cozy and close with care of the Council
Speaker 21: and American Islamic relations as it gets care by the way,
Speaker 21: it is recognized by by no less Muslim country as
Speaker 21: the United Arab Emirates as a terrorist organization in Saudi Arabia,
Speaker 21: if I'm not mistaken, has taken similar steps as well. Unfortunately,
Speaker 21: much of the Democratic Party's elite class, their brass has
Speaker 21: not gotten the memo. Keith Ellison is about as pro
Speaker 21: care as it gets there. He's there in Minnesota, so
Speaker 21: is Tim Wallas. That's illano Omar's backyard there. So this
Speaker 21: is something I think of possibly a deliberate, a deliberate
Speaker 21: leak that the Harris Walls campaign has probably done to
Speaker 21: try to gin up enthusiasm among their far left, rathically
Speaker 21: progressive pro Hamas base. They probably thought that the Democratic
Speaker 21: National Convention was actually too even handed when it comes
Speaker 21: to the Israeli Palestinian issue, if I had to guess. So, therefore,
Speaker 21: they're trying to kind of throw out some breadcrumbs to
Speaker 21: the radical base to try to get them excited for November.
Speaker 21: But no one should make any mistake about this. Keith
Speaker 21: Ellison would be an abominable, an abominable Attorney General of
Speaker 21: the United States. He has been a horrific attorney general
Speaker 21: in Minnesota. By the way, just real quick. One of
Speaker 21: the other names that I've heard floated in case it's
Speaker 21: not Keith Ellison for Kamala Harris's attorney general, God forbid
Speaker 21: is woe by the name of Sally Yates. Sally Yates
Speaker 21: made a lot of headlines in the first few days
Speaker 21: of the Trump administray excuse me, yeah, the Trump ministration
Speaker 21: back in January twenty seventeen, when she immediately instructed her
Speaker 21: subordinates in the Trump DOJ to not enforce Trump's big
Speaker 21: Day one immigration order, which the media disingenuously called the
Speaker 21: so called Muslim Band. So that is another leading contender
Speaker 21: for attorney general. It gives you an idea of what
Speaker 21: they're thinking about.
Speaker 3: It's shocking because we are trying to tell the broader
Speaker 3: American public, not just those factions that you spoke of,
Speaker 3: that she is a centrist, she's a moderate, she's a
Speaker 3: safe pair of hands that you can trust to not
Speaker 3: bankrupt the country. And yet when you hear about these
Speaker 3: people she wants to include in her inner sanctum, they
Speaker 3: are amongst the most radically left destructive forces in American politics.
Speaker 3: But again, she did have the most liberal voting record
Speaker 3: of any senator in twenty nineteen. That's her own track record,
Speaker 3: so we know where she stands ideologically. Josh Hamma, thank
Speaker 3: you so much for your time this evening.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much as others, and that's it from me.
Speaker 2: Up next is Newsnight