WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 10 September 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:07.200 On scorn lids Oscodia. This is the Wader Panety Show. 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:10.680 Good evening, and welcome to the Riata Panehy Show. 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.720 Coming up tonight, Douglas Murray joins me to talk about 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:18.520 everything from Kamala's achilles heel to Princess Catherine's good news. 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:20.439 That's coming up before the first ad break. 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:24.159 Caroline Marcus with the latest on a shocking crime in 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:27.720 Brisbane that has left a nine month old with horrific injuries. 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:31.360 And later in the hour, the brilliant Josh Hammer will 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:33.879 be here with the latest from the US, and we 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:37.560 have another extended edition of Lefties Losing. 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:40.240 It starring this exhausting woman. 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:42.480 And then all of a sudden, out of the mom's mouth, 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:45.320 I hear the trigger words non binary and gender fluid 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:47.960 and quotas in session and my ears are turned on. 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:48.559 Let's do this. 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:53.400 Joining me now, Senior reporter Caroline Marcus. Carolette's start with 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:56.360 one of the most disturbing stories of the year, the 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:59.520 attack against baby Luca in a Brisbane park. 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:01.800 Police say the foreign. 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:06.000 National who allegedly poured boiling coffee on this nine month 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:09.639 old baby in a Brisbane park last month has fled 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:14.039 the country before police could confirm his identity. Baby Lucas 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:18.480 suffered life threatening burns and has undergone multiple surgeries since 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:23.800 the August twenty seven attack, including skin graps. Police say 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:27.800 the accused left the country a day before they were 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:29.840 able to confirm his identity. 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:31.000 A warrant has. 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:34.800 Been obtained for his arrest for acts intending to cause 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:39.120 grievous bodily harm. Caroline, what else can you tell me 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:43.520 about this investigation and the likelihood of bringing this alleged 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:44.640 defender to justice. 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.880 Well, I guess the likelihood has got just that little 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:53.240 bit lower, reader, because as we now know, this man 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:57.920 has evaded police and managed to get out of the 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:03.240 country just twelve hours before police identified him in what 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:07.800 has to be the most sickening senseless crime of the 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:11.360 year so far. It just discussed me every time I 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:15.440 hear or read anything about this case. Police have said 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:20.720 that this suspect had been using counter surveillance techniques in 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:24.520 order to evade arrest, which does seem to suggest some 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:28.920 degree of sophistication on the offender's part. It's just a 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:33.720 question now in working with the international and interstate agencies, 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:38.560 because this man allegedly had been staying in New South 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.040 Wales for some of the time that he'd been coming 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:44.640 in between here and overseas. We don't know where he's foreign. 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:49.440 Police won't say since twenty nineteen, whether they can track 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.840 him down in the foreign country, whether there's any sort 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:57.400 of extradition agreement wherever he ends up being. You've just 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:00.720 got to hope that this man can be brought to 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:06.200 justice because what's happened here is absolutely horrific. I mean, 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:10.320 this poor family and the trauma that baby Luca and 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:15.000 his parents have gone through now is just beyond words. 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:19.239 And the mother has said that she would support capital 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:23.680 punishment for Luca's attacker, and I think, well, that's not 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:27.920 an option in Australia. Obviously, even the most ardent opposers 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:31.520 of the death penalty would find that hard to disagree with. 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:34.720 Absolutely. 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:38.200 Now to Victoria and the Liberal Party has acted their 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:42.560 candidate for the seat of Chisholm. They're now going to 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:47.000 be putting into that seat former Higgins MP Katie Allen. 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.920 Allen was the candidate for Higgins, which was abolish when 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:54.800 electoral boundaries were redrawn, and it seems this decision has 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.160 really upset the rank and file members at Chisholm, who 0:03:58.200 --> 0:03:59.600 had no say in the matter. 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:00.600 I've got copy of. 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:04.800 An internal party letter from the Electorate secretary which says, 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.920 in my time in the party, I have never seen 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:11.680 as much sadness amongst members as I have these past 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:16.120 twenty four hours without any pre selection or member input. 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.520 I can understand why many of you are questioning the 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:24.080 legitimacy of this decision. Unlike Labor, we value membership and 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:28.320 rank and file pre selections. We value democracy with value transparency, 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:30.080 we value fairness. 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:34.040 Carolina Katie Allen is from Tuak. 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:37.840 She lives a very different lifestyle to the average voter 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:38.880 in Chisholm. 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:40.400 How do you see this decision? 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:45.520 Well, I can't help but see this decision as one 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.880 that seems to be based almost entirely on her sex. 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:52.120 Read I mean the fact that she's a woman. And 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.560 I say that not because I don't think she'd be 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:58.159 a competent and per she's been an MP before. She's 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:01.240 a pediatrician, and I have a highest regard for people 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:06.400 who work with six children. But the Liberal Party has 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:09.719 acknowledged that it needs to address what's been called its 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:13.520 women's problem, and in order to do that, before the 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:17.520 next election, they need to pre select something like seventy 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:22.000 percent of her candidates being women in order to achieve 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:24.760 that gender parody. Now, I know a lot of women 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:28.440 out there made cheer that there's a woman who's now 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:30.800 going to be running for the Liberals, but a lot 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:34.480 of women as well don't like that sort of tokenism. 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:37.000 And that's what it appears to be, even if it 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.119 may not be the case. That's how it at least 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:44.919 appears with the election electorate redistribution. It's unfortunate that she 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:50.040 wasn't able to run for Higgins again, but is it 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:54.919 fair to displace someone who was the pre selected candidate. 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:59.360 I understand why it would have blind signed it blindsided 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.880 a lot of can file members yes, and less them 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:02.799 feeling so angry. 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.880 I think around thirty percent of a former electorate is 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:11.719 now part of Chisholm. But in that thirty percent, there's 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:15.039 from what I understand, nine boots and she lost eight 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.120 of them. So that tells you a little bit but 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.599 about how she may perform at the coming election, but 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.200 we'll wait and see. She is a very good fundraiser 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:29.000 and is a hard worker, certainly Now former South Australian 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:32.120 Opposition leader David Spears is insisting that this. 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.920 Footage of him appearing to snort. 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:39.480 White powder surrounded by wine and liquor bottles is a 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:43.400 deep fake. The clip, captured on June thirty this year, 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:48.120 was obtained by the Adelaide Advertiser. Spears says he strongly 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:52.360 disputes the authenticity of the video. He's told the Advertiser 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.479 he believes it is a deep fake or elaborate hoax, 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.440 adding I was overseas for two weeks in June and 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:02.039 during that time other per since had access to my home, 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:05.760 giving rise to the opportunity for someone to obtain footage 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.440 of my premises. I am extremely disappointed by this and 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:13.360 a sure South Australians that I would never take illicit substances. 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.200 I never have and I never will. Now, we're not 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:21.680 suggesting any wrongdoing on mister Spears's behalf here, but we're 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:26.000 not saying these substances are even illegal. But Caroline, this 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:30.360 is an astonishing story, a very twenty twenty four story. 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:31.320 It is. 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.920 Remember Brita when the excuse when politicians and other high 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:39.400 profile people were caught out doing bad things online, they 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:42.080 would say I've been hacked, someone's locked into my account 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:45.040 and sexted someone. Now the excuse for twenty twenty four 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:48.080 seems to be it's a deep fake. But the newspaper 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:51.559 the Advertiser, who obtained these images have said they've checked 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:55.640 the metadata. He was in the country when they were taken. 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:59.280 They've also consulted with a forensics expert that the courts 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:01.600 used that has said it doesn't appear that there were 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:05.400 any any tampering or alterations, so it doesn't appear to 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.600 be exactly how David Spears may be putting it. 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:13.480 Caroline Marcus, thank you for your time this evening. Now 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:17.240 they're left up becoming increasingly desperate and resorting to some 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:20.760 ugly tactics. That's evident in the media too, with far 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:25.360 left side criche publishing this bit of slander against Liberal 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:28.160 leader Peter Dutta, and they have concluded that he is 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:30.920 racist and this is their evidence. 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:31.679 Brace yourself. 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:35.200 So the number one reason he walked out of Parliament 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:38.960 rather than here, the then Prime Minister Kevin Wright apologized 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:42.600 to the so called stolen generations. He did mention the 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:47.040 problem of rising African gang violence in Melbourne. He pointed 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:50.199 out the need to counter Chinese aggression to keep peace 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.520 in our region, and of course, most recently he called 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:57.960 for a pause on visas for Gazans until thoroughchecks could 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:01.360 be conducted. Joining me now as former Speaker of the 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:05.400 House and Liberal National MP for Fisher Andrew Wallace. Andrew, 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:09.520 what is your response to your leader being labeled racist? 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.560 Well, you can always count on the left Rita to 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.880 pull out the racist card when they're in strife, and 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:20.920 boy are they in strife now. Look, I've known Peter 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:24.520 for a long time. He's been a police officer for 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:30.200 nine years. He's been the Immigration Minister, the Home Affairs Minister. 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:33.600 He has had some tough portfolios and now he's in 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:35.800 his toughest portfolio as the leader. 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:36.400 Of the Opposition. 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:38.880 But I can tell you now, and I can tell 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:42.600 you your viewers, that you will not find a man 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:46.000 who is more committed to the safety and security. 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.160 Of Australians than Peter Dutton. 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.960 And look, when you've seen everything that's gone on with 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:55.480 Andrew Giles as the Immigration Minister and how poorly the 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:59.640 Labor Party are conducting themselves from a national security perspective, 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.200 what do you want? Do you want someone like Andrew 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:06.360 Giles looking after the country? From an immigration perspective, or 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:10.040 do you want someone like Peter Dutton calling the shots? 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.480 I know which I'd rather. 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.640 Do you think you should consider legal action here? 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:22.079 To be labeled a racist so blatantly by a publication, 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:27.480 it goes beyond just the sort of criticism politicians expect 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:28.000 to get. 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:28.560 From the media. 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:35.040 Well, Rita, I've been a barrister for over twenty years 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.600 and my first advice to anybody that is considering legal 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:42.840 action is don't No one wins when you go down 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:44.440 that route. 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.959 It becomes a win for lawyers and lawyers only. 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.640 So you know, if Peter was to ask me my views, 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:53.520 I'd say no, But of course it's a matter for Peter. 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:55.440 But you know, this is not the first time we've 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:58.199 heard Peter labeled as that. 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:02.920 We heard the Member Orringa in the Parliament recently. Yes, 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:06.480 this is someone who has stood on a platform of 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:10.040 integrity and you know when someone is really struggling politically 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:11.520 when they pull a racist card. 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:17.040 Absolutely, and that was quite a bizarre performance from Zali 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:20.240 Steel because she withdrew the comment in parliament, then came 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.280 on Sky News and repeated it. Now let's move along 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:27.079 to the federal government. Planning to introduce a social media 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:31.319 band for children nationwide within the next twelve months. The 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:35.319 age limit has not yet been determined. The Prime ministers 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:39.319 following South Australia's lead here they are proposing a band 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:44.320 for those aged thirteen and under. But Andrew, how will 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:47.640 this be in force? How will this age verification work? 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:51.200 It doesn't work on porn sites, haws are going to 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.200 work with social media sites? 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:58.000 Well read, let me correct you on something there. 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:03.480 Anthony Alberizi has been dragged, kicking and screaming on his 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:08.360 ultimate position in relation to social media bands. In June 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:11.880 of this year, Peter Dutton came out very strongly and 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:15.280 said that a Dutton elected government would ensure that we 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:19.120 had a minimum of sixteen years of age for social 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.360 media and we would do that in the first hundred days. Now, 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:25.840 it's really interesting that Peter Melanowskis came out yesterday and 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.640 gave a watered down version of that. But what it 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:34.400 did it made Anthony Albaneasy look absolutely impotent because he 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.800 was the one that stood up the Select Committee on 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.920 which I'm on, which is examining this very issue. So 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:45.520 we are still processing and having evidence. 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:48.840 Before us and because Peter Melanowskis came out and said 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:49.480 what he said. 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:55.720 Yesterday, Elbows jumped out in a half baked measure, felt 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.040 that he really needed to make a stand on this. 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:02.240 But he's still he's still can't say what age group 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:05.559 this will apply to. Well, you know, the Coalition has 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:07.760 been very strong on this. Peter Dutton has led the 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.000 way on this from as early as June this year, 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:14.200 saying that we would mandate a minimum age of sixteen. 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:18.880 What parents are telling me is that they need that 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:22.400 legal protection because you know, you know, I don't know 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.160 if you're a parent, reader, but certainly I've had four 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:28.800 daughters and kids will always use the oh you know, 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.880 Mary's mum and dad let her. Why won't you let 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.040 me line We've all experienced as. 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.719 There's always the peer pressure. Andrew Willis, thanks for. 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:38.000 Your time, Thanks reader. 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:42.520 Joining me now is commentator and best selling author Douglas 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:46.440 Murray Douglas. The first and only debate between Kamala Harris 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:48.880 and Donald Trump is just hours away. 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:50.120 The VEEPS team. 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:53.320 Has been desperately trying to change the agree to debate rules. 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.920 If you were advising the Vice president, how would you 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:02.080 tell her to approach this clash. 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.760 Well, I mean, she's got several problems on her hands, 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.160 hasn't she, Because on the one hand, she's got to 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:12.880 make sure that she says absolutely nothing, and she's quite 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.760 good at that. It has to be said, but she 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:20.000 has to say absolutely nothing because we know that many 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:23.280 of the policies that she would bring in, as Bernie 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:27.560 Sanders admitted this week, would be pretty radical and would 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:31.120 put off the public. At the same time, there might 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.840 still be some journalists in America and elsewhere who will 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:37.960 notice that she has to say something. I suspect that 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.600 what she's going to do, and what her advisors will 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.640 have told her to do, is to try to trap Trump, 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:47.160 and they will do that by getting her to do 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.920 something like the shtick she did in the last debate 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.920 when she was running for VEEP and against against Donald 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.560 Trump and Mike Pence. And you remember she kept saying 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:02.640 to Mike Pence, I'm speaking, excuse me what I am 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:05.480 And it was a very clear attempt to sort of 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:08.120 say I'm a woman. I'm also a woman of color. 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:12.760 And therefore if you in any way not just interrupt me, 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:16.000 but counter me, you're kind of countering a woman of 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.840 color and you know, steady on there, don't you realize 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.240 you're not allowed to do that. I don't think she'll 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:23.480 use that technique, but I bet they've come up with 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:28.280 a new one that's equally irritating and equally designed to 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:30.520 effectively trap her opponent. 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:37.400 And it will be something that the media absolutely love, and. 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.440 They'll promote it as a massive win. 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:44.320 And yet the rest of the viewing public, not all 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.000 of them, but many of them will find irritating. 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.320 Now, what does Trump have to do to get in 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:50.960 her head? 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:55.080 Should he try to throw her off? Pose questions the 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:59.840 debate moderators are not asking, or is it better off 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:03.400 just saying as little as possible and letting her talk? 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.040 Well that it's a very interesting one, this, I mean, 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.640 everybody sort of has ideas of how to do this, 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.320 and of course, you know, very few people have actually 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:15.120 been on the presidential stage or had a debate with 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:19.400 these kinds of stakes. I think that there's it's very 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:23.520 interesting watching Trump in recent weeks as he's he's you know, 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.080 clearly been advised, you know, stick to policy, and as 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:27.960 he said at one of the rallies the other the 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.600 other week, you know, the Democrats have been very very 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:34.200 personal against him, and how could he resist getting personal? 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:38.560 In response that said, it's an extremely difficult columbrum for him. 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.960 Getting personal. If she gets personal, and I think she's 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:48.400 bound to, getting personal is kind of inevitable. And if 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.400 he was to, as it were, rise above it, he 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.040 might well annoy a lot of his base. Who will 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:55.800 he will say, you know, we want to see you 0:16:55.880 --> 0:17:00.520 pummel her effectively. So it's a very very tricky situation 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.720 he's in. This is why, of course the Democrats have 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:08.159 put her forward. Is it's meant to sort of snooker Trump. Nevertheless, 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.800 there are two very good lines of attack that he 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:14.760 could do. One is to actually ask her to get 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:19.200 specific on any policy, literally, any policy reata. It could 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:25.560 be anything from our education to foreign policy, taxation policy, 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:30.000 abtually any key policy, and just get her to give 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:33.639 any detail on it, not to say the importance of 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:39.280 education is something we must remember and that's why education matters, 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.120 and let's all think about that for a moment. Don't 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:45.320 let her do any of that. Actually ask her some detail. 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.920 That's the first thing he could do. The second thing 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:51.600 he could do is ask her how she squares this 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:59.119 circle of this campaign is about fixing America, and yet 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.480 I'm proud of what Joe Biden and I have accomplished 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:05.919 in the last four years. There is a disconnect between 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:09.560 those two things. Can he tease out of her what 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:13.119 her real thinking is? We'll see. 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.119 That's a very good point, because not only has she 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:19.520 been part of the Biden Harris administration, We've had the 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.920 Democrats in power twelve of the last sixteen years, so 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:27.679 this continuous There's a better way, the change we desperately need. Well, 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:31.280 how long do you need to actually implement it? We 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:35.719 are getting finally a few policy positions articulated on the 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:41.480 official Harris campaign website and Douglas she wants to provide 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:45.320 a pathway to citizenship for migrants who have crossed into 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:49.359 the border over the border illegally. This is in stark 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:52.760 contrast to Donald Trump, whose policy is to enact a 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:57.760 massive deportation initiative to get rid of illegal immigrants from 0:18:57.800 --> 0:18:59.639 the country. How do you think this is going to 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:02.200 play at You know, this. 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:05.720 Has played out so many times in America in recent decades. 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:11.040 When you have a completely porous border, there is always 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.440 this temptation for people to say, why don't we put 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:17.600 a pathway to citizenship for people who are in America already, 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:21.040 and instead of having them work in the shadow economy, 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.600 in the black market and so on, let's bring them in, 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:27.960 make them taxpayers, make them citizens, and so on. There's 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:31.520 in one way, this is a perfectly reasonable argument. On 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:35.920 the other hand, it's absolutely lethal because what it does is, 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:38.800 after the millions of people who've already broken into America 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:42.879 through the southern border illegally, it simply encourages more to come. 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.440 Why because it says, you know, you've just got to 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:49.159 get in, you'll get everything that you need, and you 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:53.119 will eventually be actually a citizen. In other words, the 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:58.399 crime of breaking into the country illegally will effectively not 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:00.960 be judged to be a crime, won't be any punishment 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.480 for it. The problem about this is, and it's the 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.760 same problem with America that Europe has been going through. 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:08.399 Its the same problem Britain's going through. It's the same 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:10.600 problem that Australia has been challenged by in the past. 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:12.920 As you know, although Australia has been one of the 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:16.080 relatively same countries on this, the problem with it is 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:20.000 not the people who have already come. It's the millions 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:24.760 upon millions of people who would like to come and 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:28.680 who the minute that you make that pathway from being 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:31.600 an illegal, who breaks in being a citizen, and the 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:35.720 minute you make that pathway that easy, it's just millions 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:38.040 upon millions of people who will want to follow in 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:41.959 the footsteps of those people. So it's always there, This idea, 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:44.520 the pathway to systemship is always there as a temptation 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:49.000 for politicians, but they leave for their successes a bigger 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:50.600 and bigger nightmare. 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:56.240 Absolutely, you're just creating more poor factors. You're putting more 0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:59.239 sugar on the table, as they say. And I do 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:02.200 wonder whether Democrats would be so keen on this path 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:06.359 to citizenship if they weren't counting on these new citizens 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:11.159 voting for them. Perhaps they're are miscalculating there, but I 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:14.520 think in the past they've been fairly safe in thinking 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:19.439 these new migrants who've been effectively awarded for crossing the 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:22.919 border illegally will support us with their vote. 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:25.200 Now, illegal immigrants are causing all. 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:28.600 Sorts of serious issues for people across many towns in 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:31.200 the US. It's not just those border towns anymore. We've 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:35.320 had a armed Venezuelan gangs taking over apartment buildings in 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:40.960 Colorado to thousands of immigrants from Haiti being placed in 0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:44.000 a little town called Springfield, Ohio. This is a town 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:47.520 with a population of less than sixty thousand Douglas, and 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:51.199 the mayor there says they've been overwhelmed by fourteen to 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:54.960 twenty thousand migrants that have been brought in by authorities. 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:56.680 The locals have had enough. 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:00.679 I really challenge you guys to get out here, do something. 0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:05.400 These Pasians are running into trash cans, they're running into buildings, 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:09.520 they're running into if looking cars in the middle of 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:09.840 the street. 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:12.720 Douglas. 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:16.200 The locals there are not getting to the services they 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:19.840 need because they're being overwhelmed by these new. 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:22.520 Migrants that have arrived. And when you think about the. 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:25.720 Numbers, a town of less than sixty thousand to suddenly 0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:30.479 have anywhere between fourteen and twenty thousand new people placed 0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:32.760 in it, and you can understand why they're overwhelmed. 0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:36.760 I mean, I've seen this so many times in so 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:40.240 many other Western countries Rita. It's exactly the sort of 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:43.800 thing that happened in Sweden since twenty fifteen. It's exactly 0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:46.879 the same thing that's happened in towns in Germany and elsewhere, 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:50.480 and it's always the same story, is that the locals 0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:55.600 say we can't put up with this, and central or 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:59.359 local government says, tough luck, you're going to have to. 0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:03.760 And I think this is profoundly im moral on the 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:06.760 part of politicians. I think it's a wicked thing to do. 0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:11.879 The first duty of politicians is to look after the 0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:15.120 interests of the people who put them in power, the voters. 0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:19.439 It's not to make sure that everyone in Venezuela who 0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:25.000 wants to flee and break into a condo flat gets 0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:27.840 the right to do so. And I think it's an 0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:36.480 unbelievable offering up a responsibility, abdication of responsibility by politicians, 0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:40.080 And as I said earlier, they leave a much bigger 0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:44.119 mess for the people coming after them. 0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:46.240 Absolutely. Now let's move to the UK. 0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:50.960 The BBC's israel Her mass coverage is said to breach 0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:55.760