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Speaker 1: On scorn lids Oscodia. This is the Wader Panety Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, and welcome to the Riata Panehy Show.

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Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, Douglas Murray joins me to talk about

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Speaker 3: everything from Kamala's achilles heel to Princess Catherine's good news.

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Speaker 2: That's coming up before the first ad break.

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Speaker 3: Caroline Marcus with the latest on a shocking crime in

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Speaker 3: Brisbane that has left a nine month old with horrific injuries.

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Speaker 3: And later in the hour, the brilliant Josh Hammer will

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Speaker 3: be here with the latest from the US, and we

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Speaker 3: have another extended edition of Lefties Losing.

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Speaker 2: It starring this exhausting woman.

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Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, out of the mom's mouth,

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Speaker 4: I hear the trigger words non binary and gender fluid

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Speaker 4: and quotas in session and my ears are turned on.

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Speaker 5: Let's do this.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now, Senior reporter Caroline Marcus. Carolette's start with

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Speaker 3: one of the most disturbing stories of the year, the

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Speaker 3: attack against baby Luca in a Brisbane park.

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Speaker 2: Police say the foreign.

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Speaker 3: National who allegedly poured boiling coffee on this nine month

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Speaker 3: old baby in a Brisbane park last month has fled

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Speaker 3: the country before police could confirm his identity. Baby Lucas

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Speaker 3: suffered life threatening burns and has undergone multiple surgeries since

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Speaker 3: the August twenty seven attack, including skin graps. Police say

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Speaker 3: the accused left the country a day before they were

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Speaker 3: able to confirm his identity.

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Speaker 2: A warrant has.

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Speaker 3: Been obtained for his arrest for acts intending to cause

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Speaker 3: grievous bodily harm. Caroline, what else can you tell me

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Speaker 3: about this investigation and the likelihood of bringing this alleged

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Speaker 6: Well, I guess the likelihood has got just that little

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Speaker 6: bit lower, reader, because as we now know, this man

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Speaker 6: has evaded police and managed to get out of the

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Speaker 6: country just twelve hours before police identified him in what

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Speaker 6: has to be the most sickening senseless crime of the

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Speaker 6: year so far. It just discussed me every time I

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Speaker 6: hear or read anything about this case. Police have said

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Speaker 6: that this suspect had been using counter surveillance techniques in

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Speaker 6: order to evade arrest, which does seem to suggest some

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Speaker 6: degree of sophistication on the offender's part. It's just a

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Speaker 6: question now in working with the international and interstate agencies,

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Speaker 6: because this man allegedly had been staying in New South

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Speaker 6: in between here and overseas. We don't know where he's foreign.

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Speaker 6: Police won't say since twenty nineteen, whether they can track

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Speaker 6: him down in the foreign country, whether there's any sort

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Speaker 6: of extradition agreement wherever he ends up being. You've just

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Speaker 6: got to hope that this man can be brought to

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Speaker 6: justice because what's happened here is absolutely horrific. I mean,

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Speaker 6: this poor family and the trauma that baby Luca and

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Speaker 6: his parents have gone through now is just beyond words.

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Speaker 6: And the mother has said that she would support capital

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Speaker 6: punishment for Luca's attacker, and I think, well, that's not

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Speaker 6: an option in Australia. Obviously, even the most ardent opposers

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Speaker 6: of the death penalty would find that hard to disagree with.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Now to Victoria and the Liberal Party has acted their

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Speaker 3: candidate for the seat of Chisholm. They're now going to

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Speaker 3: be putting into that seat former Higgins MP Katie Allen.

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Speaker 3: Allen was the candidate for Higgins, which was abolish when

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Speaker 3: electoral boundaries were redrawn, and it seems this decision has

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Speaker 3: really upset the rank and file members at Chisholm, who

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Speaker 3: had no say in the matter.

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Speaker 2: I've got copy of.

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Speaker 3: An internal party letter from the Electorate secretary which says,

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Speaker 3: in my time in the party, I have never seen

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Speaker 3: as much sadness amongst members as I have these past

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Speaker 3: twenty four hours without any pre selection or member input.

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Speaker 3: I can understand why many of you are questioning the

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Speaker 3: legitimacy of this decision. Unlike Labor, we value membership and

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Speaker 3: rank and file pre selections. We value democracy with value transparency,

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Speaker 3: we value fairness.

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Speaker 2: Carolina Katie Allen is from Tuak.

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Speaker 3: She lives a very different lifestyle to the average voter

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Speaker 3: in Chisholm.

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Speaker 2: How do you see this decision?

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Speaker 6: Well, I can't help but see this decision as one

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Speaker 6: that seems to be based almost entirely on her sex.

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Speaker 6: Read I mean the fact that she's a woman. And

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Speaker 6: I say that not because I don't think she'd be

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Speaker 6: a pediatrician, and I have a highest regard for people

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Speaker 6: who work with six children. But the Liberal Party has

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Speaker 6: acknowledged that it needs to address what's been called its

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Speaker 6: women's problem, and in order to do that, before the

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Speaker 6: next election, they need to pre select something like seventy

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Speaker 6: percent of her candidates being women in order to achieve

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Speaker 6: that gender parody. Now, I know a lot of women

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Speaker 6: of women as well don't like that sort of tokenism.

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Speaker 6: And that's what it appears to be, even if it

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Speaker 6: may not be the case. That's how it at least

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Speaker 6: appears with the election electorate redistribution. It's unfortunate that she

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Speaker 6: wasn't able to run for Higgins again, but is it

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Speaker 6: fair to displace someone who was the pre selected candidate.

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Speaker 6: I understand why it would have blind signed it blindsided

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Speaker 6: a lot of can file members yes, and less them

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Speaker 3: I think around thirty percent of a former electorate is

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Speaker 3: now part of Chisholm. But in that thirty percent, there's

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Speaker 3: from what I understand, nine boots and she lost eight

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Speaker 3: of them. So that tells you a little bit but

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Speaker 3: about how she may perform at the coming election, but

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Speaker 3: we'll wait and see. She is a very good fundraiser

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Speaker 3: and is a hard worker, certainly Now former South Australian

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Speaker 3: Opposition leader David Spears is insisting that this.

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Speaker 2: Footage of him appearing to snort.

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Speaker 3: White powder surrounded by wine and liquor bottles is a

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Speaker 3: deep fake. The clip, captured on June thirty this year,

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Speaker 3: was obtained by the Adelaide Advertiser. Spears says he strongly

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Speaker 3: disputes the authenticity of the video. He's told the Advertiser

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Speaker 3: he believes it is a deep fake or elaborate hoax,

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Speaker 3: adding I was overseas for two weeks in June and

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Speaker 3: during that time other per since had access to my home,

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Speaker 3: giving rise to the opportunity for someone to obtain footage

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Speaker 3: of my premises. I am extremely disappointed by this and

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Speaker 3: a sure South Australians that I would never take illicit substances.

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Speaker 3: I never have and I never will. Now, we're not

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Speaker 3: suggesting any wrongdoing on mister Spears's behalf here, but we're

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Speaker 3: not saying these substances are even illegal. But Caroline, this

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Speaker 6: Remember Brita when the excuse when politicians and other high

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Speaker 6: profile people were caught out doing bad things online, they

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Speaker 6: and sexted someone. Now the excuse for twenty twenty four

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Speaker 6: seems to be it's a deep fake. But the newspaper

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Speaker 6: the Advertiser, who obtained these images have said they've checked

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Speaker 6: the metadata. He was in the country when they were taken.

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Speaker 6: They've also consulted with a forensics expert that the courts

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Speaker 6: used that has said it doesn't appear that there were

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Speaker 6: any any tampering or alterations, so it doesn't appear to

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Speaker 6: be exactly how David Spears may be putting it.

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Speaker 3: Caroline Marcus, thank you for your time this evening. Now

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Speaker 3: they're left up becoming increasingly desperate and resorting to some

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Speaker 3: ugly tactics. That's evident in the media too, with far

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Speaker 3: left side criche publishing this bit of slander against Liberal

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Speaker 3: leader Peter Dutta, and they have concluded that he is

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Speaker 3: racist and this is their evidence.

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Speaker 2: Brace yourself.

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Speaker 3: So the number one reason he walked out of Parliament

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Speaker 3: rather than here, the then Prime Minister Kevin Wright apologized

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Speaker 3: to the so called stolen generations. He did mention the

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Speaker 3: problem of rising African gang violence in Melbourne. He pointed

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Speaker 3: out the need to counter Chinese aggression to keep peace

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Speaker 3: in our region, and of course, most recently he called

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Speaker 3: for a pause on visas for Gazans until thoroughchecks could

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Speaker 3: be conducted. Joining me now as former Speaker of the

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Speaker 3: House and Liberal National MP for Fisher Andrew Wallace. Andrew,

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Speaker 3: what is your response to your leader being labeled racist?

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Speaker 8: Well, you can always count on the left Rita to

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Speaker 8: pull out the racist card when they're in strife, and

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Speaker 8: boy are they in strife now. Look, I've known Peter

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Speaker 8: for a long time. He's been a police officer for

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Speaker 8: nine years. He's been the Immigration Minister, the Home Affairs Minister.

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Speaker 8: He has had some tough portfolios and now he's in

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Speaker 8: his toughest portfolio as the leader.

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Speaker 9: Of the Opposition.

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Speaker 8: But I can tell you now, and I can tell

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Speaker 8: you your viewers, that you will not find a man

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Speaker 8: who is more committed to the safety and security.

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Speaker 9: Of Australians than Peter Dutton.

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Speaker 8: And look, when you've seen everything that's gone on with

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Speaker 8: Andrew Giles as the Immigration Minister and how poorly the

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Speaker 8: what do you want? Do you want someone like Andrew

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Speaker 8: Giles looking after the country? From an immigration perspective, or

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Speaker 8: do you want someone like Peter Dutton calling the shots?

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Speaker 9: I know which I'd rather.

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Speaker 2: Do you think you should consider legal action here?

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Speaker 3: To be labeled a racist so blatantly by a publication,

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Speaker 3: it goes beyond just the sort of criticism politicians expect

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Speaker 3: to get.

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Speaker 2: From the media.

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Speaker 8: Well, Rita, I've been a barrister for over twenty years

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Speaker 8: and my first advice to anybody that is considering legal

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Speaker 8: action is don't No one wins when you go down

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Speaker 8: that route.

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Speaker 9: It becomes a win for lawyers and lawyers only.

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Speaker 8: So you know, if Peter was to ask me my views,

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Speaker 8: I'd say no, But of course it's a matter for Peter.

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Speaker 9: But you know, this is not the first time we've

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Speaker 9: heard Peter labeled as that.

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Speaker 8: We heard the Member Orringa in the Parliament recently. Yes,

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Speaker 8: this is someone who has stood on a platform of

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Speaker 8: when they pull a racist card.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and that was quite a bizarre performance from Zali

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Speaker 3: Steel because she withdrew the comment in parliament, then came

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Speaker 3: on Sky News and repeated it. Now let's move along

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Speaker 3: to the federal government. Planning to introduce a social media

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Speaker 3: band for children nationwide within the next twelve months. The

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Speaker 3: age limit has not yet been determined. The Prime ministers

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Speaker 3: following South Australia's lead here they are proposing a band

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Speaker 3: for those aged thirteen and under. But Andrew, how will

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Speaker 3: It doesn't work on porn sites, haws are going to

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Speaker 3: work with social media sites?

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Speaker 9: Well read, let me correct you on something there.

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Speaker 8: Anthony Alberizi has been dragged, kicking and screaming on his

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Speaker 8: ultimate position in relation to social media bands. In June

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Speaker 8: of this year, Peter Dutton came out very strongly and

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Speaker 8: said that a Dutton elected government would ensure that we

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Speaker 8: had a minimum of sixteen years of age for social

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Speaker 8: media and we would do that in the first hundred days. Now,

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Speaker 8: it's really interesting that Peter Melanowskis came out yesterday and

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Speaker 8: gave a watered down version of that. But what it

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Speaker 8: did it made Anthony Albaneasy look absolutely impotent because he

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Speaker 8: was the one that stood up the Select Committee on

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Speaker 8: which I'm on, which is examining this very issue. So

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Speaker 8: we are still processing and having evidence.

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Speaker 9: Before us and because Peter Melanowskis came out and said

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Speaker 9: what he said.

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Speaker 8: Yesterday, Elbows jumped out in a half baked measure, felt

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Speaker 8: But he's still he's still can't say what age group

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Speaker 8: this will apply to. Well, you know, the Coalition has

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Speaker 8: been very strong on this. Peter Dutton has led the

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Speaker 2: The VEEPS team.

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Speaker 3: Has been desperately trying to change the agree to debate rules.

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Speaker 5: another of their correspondents always taking the side always of

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00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 5: just anyone who's anti Israel. It's an endemic bias in

441
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 5: the BBC, completely sick. And of course they're welcome to

442
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 5: do that. If they want to just be a pro

443
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 5: Hamas anti Israel channel, they can do that. But there's

444
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 5: a caveat with them, which is that they're not in

445
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 5: the free market, and on this exchange of free ideas

446
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 5: they're paid for by the license pairs, by the taxpayers

447
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 5: in the UK. So that's why this matters. It's not

448
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 5: like The Guardian, the guy I think can do what

449
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 5: it wants. This is the national broadcaster, and so I

450
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 5: think that a better standard should be expected of them,

451
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 5: and indeed demanded.

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00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: Now, before you.

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00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 3: Go, Princess Kate has just in recent hours released a

454
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Speaker 3: video announcing she has completed her chemo therapy treatment.

455
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Speaker 11: To finally completed my chemotherapy treatment. The last nine months

456
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 11: have been incredibly tough for us as a family. Life.

457
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 11: As you know, it can change in an instant and

458
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Speaker 11: we've had to find a way to navigate the stormy

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Speaker 11: waters and road unknown.

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Speaker 2: Douglas.

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Speaker 3: She also speaks about looking forward to being back at

462
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 3: work and undertaking public engagements. It's a beautifully shot video,

463
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: i've got to say, has.

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00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: Astonished Royal watches. I love it.

465
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Speaker 3: I think we should be have more communication like this.

466
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 3: There was so much secrecy around her treatment and she's

467
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 3: now coming out and sharing it all with the world.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the first time I've seen it. It's a

469
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 5: fake glossy but look it's a happy story at a

470
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 5: time when happy stories, and you know, she's been remarkable

471
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 5: figure in public life ever since she first entered public life.

472
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 5: Unlike some people we could think of, she's been extraordinarily

473
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Speaker 5: devoted in her work and you know, I hope that

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Speaker 5: her return to public life. I think it will be seen,

475
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 5: it will be welcomed enormously warmly by the British public

476
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 5: and others. She's never put a foot wrong since since she,

477
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 5: you know, became a public figure in one of the

478
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 5: toughest jobs in the world in a way, because you know,

479
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 5: if she's in one of those visions where if you've

480
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 5: scowled once, you'd get a lifelong reputation for being a

481
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 5: grum And so it's wonderful that she'll be back. The

482
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 5: royal family has got rather too few working members at

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00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 5: the moment, so having one of the absolute alist royals

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Speaker 5: back is good news.

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Speaker 3: And she's showing such enormous grist because the couple you

486
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: haven't mentioned, Harry Meghan. I've poured all sorts of vitriol

487
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: her way and her husband's way. She knows she can't respond.

488
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 3: She just has to keep a dignified silence, which must

489
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: be enormously difficult. But she's done it. She's done her duty.

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Speaker 3: And we thank her for it. Douglas Murray, thank you

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Speaker 3: for your time this evening. Thank you still to come

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00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: an extended edition of Lefties Losing It. You're welcome, welcome back.

493
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: Now it's time for Lefties Losing It, and I have

494
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 3: for you here a.

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00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: Uniquely annoying Lefty.

496
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: Losing It about a family having a private conversation about

497
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 3: folks confused about their gender.

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00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 4: Hi, Harriett, have you ever beIN p to b headcrimed?

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00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 2: I have, so let me tell you about it.

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00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 4: Okay, so yesterday I was at work serving this family

502
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 4: that were sitting there like the three raised men, and

503
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, out of the mom's mouth,

504
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 4: I hear the trigger was none binary and gender fluid

505
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 4: and quote as in session and my ears are turned on.

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00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 5: Let's do this.

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00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 4: So basically, the mom was trying to explain to the

508
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 4: dad what it meant to be non binary or gender fluid.

509
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 4: After a few minutes go by, the dad responds in

510
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 4: the same way that every guy that looks like him

511
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 4: would and says, you know, I understand where they're coming from,

512
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 4: but if you're biologically a male or female, that's what

513
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 4: you are. And then I'm standing there on display.

514
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 3: Just exhausting, draining, draining. Now, let's hear from a Democrat congresswoman,

515
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: Magazine Waters, who claims Republicans and those upset with a

516
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 3: number of immigrants from Haiti being deposited into their small towns.

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00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: Well they just racist. There could be no other explanation.

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00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 12: Well, let me just say this that Haitians have been

519
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 12: the victims of you know, not only our country but

520
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 12: Canada and France. For you is historically they're black, they're poor.

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00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 12: It supports country in the hemisphere. They have been exploited

522
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 12: and it continues all the time. Yes, I think they're

523
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 12: treated differently because they're black, because they're Haitians.

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00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: But here is a local in Springfield, Ohio who doesn't

525
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: really see it that way, and he doesn't exactly fit

526
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 3: Maxine Waters white supremacists race beating talk.

527
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: Let's hear from him.

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Speaker 10: I think it's like kind of odd that like a

529
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 10: guy like me has to come out from doing what

530
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 10: I do on a daily basis to have fun because

531
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 10: I see what's going on in these streets and I

532
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 10: see you guys are sitting up there in them comfy

533
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 10: chairs and suits like and I'm getting out here every

534
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 10: day and I'm broadcasting this and you guys are just

535
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 10: sitting up there and suits or something like, I really

536
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 10: challenge you guys to get out here and do something.

537
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 10: These Haitians are running into trash cans, they're running into buildings,

538
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 10: they're running into they flipping cars in the middle of

539
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 10: the street. And I don't know how like y'all can

540
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 10: be comfortable with this, Like I don't know like who's

541
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 10: getting paid from it. I feel like I honestly feel

542
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 10: like someone's.

543
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 9: Getting paid from it.

544
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 10: In the background, they dropping that you got a bunch

545
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 10: of people on a bus getting dropped off at a

546
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 10: gas station to come down here. I know a single

547
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 10: mom that FaceTime met tonight, FaceTime me this morning at

548
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 10: the welfare office that really need like that really needs something,

549
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 10: and it's nothing but immigrants over there.

550
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: And here is Kamala Harris taking credit for giving temporary

551
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: protection status to over one hundred thousand migrants from Haiti.

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00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 7: That is why also, starting with our administration, we gave

553
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 7: TPS temporary protected status to Haitian migrants fifty five thousand,

554
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 7: and then more recently we extended temporary protected status to

555
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 7: over one hundred thousand Haitian migrants for that very reason

556
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 7: that they need support, they need protection.

557
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 3: Now the Mail Online is reporting that Kamala Harris is

558
00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 3: prepping for the debate by practicing with Ai in an

559
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: orange wig. No reports yet whether it's this guy.

560
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 13: Ladies and gentlemen, the real president of the United States.

561
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 14: Me what an unbelievable experience it is, What a great

562
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 14: show this could be. Instead, we've got an absolute idiot

563
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 14: here running the show.

564
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 3: That's, of course, the great Shane Gilles, whose Trump is

565
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 3: the best in the business, and he stayed in character

566
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 3: there for two hours for that Kiltny episode.

567
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: Look it up, thank me later. Most of it is

568
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: too blue for a.

569
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: Family show like this. Now to a lefty teacher losing it.

570
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 3: This dude with the proud trans teacher shirt teaches in

571
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: Rhode Island, and watch this totally sane and rational behavior

572
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 3: as he destroys a Trump sign.

573
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 7: Yes, my name is.

574
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 15: Handy Grinder and I'm working at the one store on floor.

575
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: You're threatening my life.

576
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 5: He's trying to job you, so we're trying to hit it.

577
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 5: He's trying to pair my signs.

578
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 3: Yet, and here is that same teacher claiming he is

579
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 3: off on sickly due to injuries caused by transphobia in

580
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 3: the classroom.

581
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 15: School teacher, and I'm currently out on sickly owing to

582
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 15: injury in performance of job related tasks in the workplace

583
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 15: caused by classroom transphobia and homophobia owing to my own

584
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 15: beliefs and opposition to the school to prison pipeline. This

585
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 15: is a complicated situation, particularly because it is directly related

586
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 15: to my gender identity and sexuality and homophobia in the classroom.

587
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 2: Good luck kids.

588
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 3: Now we've seen the gold Staff family is ignored by

589
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: Biden and Kamala Harris. We' seeing them attacked by the

590
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 3: ugliest segments of the media.

591
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 2: And social media too.

592
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 3: Yes, some left is losing it are laying the boots

593
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 3: into gold Star families.

594
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 16: I am angry at the gold Star families who invited

595
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 16: Trump to Arlington because they decided, in their adoration for

596
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 16: Trump that it was okay to let Trump his campaign

597
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 16: staff and his campaign team's.

598
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 2: Videographer and photographer.

599
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 16: On top of all of the aids and security, they

600
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 16: invited them to Arlington to traps over other people's children's graves.

601
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: Just gross and unhinged.

602
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 3: Now, we always enjoy watching Bill Maher being schooled by

603
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: his own guests. And that's precisely what the editor in

604
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: chief of National Review did, Rich Lowry, watch.

605
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: This to get rid of him, because if he lost

606
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: another election, that would be twenty eighteen, twenty twenty, twenty

607
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty twenty four. I would think, and I've

608
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: certainly been the last one to say Trump's over now,

609
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: lots of people do. I was like, no, no, no,

610
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: But I think this would be it for him. I

611
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: think he'd still be He's not like Joe Biden. He's

612
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: not going to go peacefully and out to pasture. But

613
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 1: Republicans will have had enough of Trump. Not of Trump

614
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: isn't and it can you be done with all that?

615
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 17: You can't be certain of that bill. The one thing

616
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 17: that's certainly if you lose is Kama Harrison President of

617
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 17: the United States. And I wholly oppose almost every single

618
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 17: one of her positions. I think she's a vacuates one opportunist.

619
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 17: I totally reject the idea that in the space of

620
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 17: forty eight hours she went from a subpar vice president

621
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 17: everyone recognized as such all of a sudden of the

622
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 17: second coming of Barack Obama.

623
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 3: It is preposterous and the lessons did not end their

624
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 3: what yere is Larry and Hayshaw McMaster school, MA Democrat

625
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 3: John Avlon and the lefty audience.

626
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 18: We've got one guy saying we should we should pull

627
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 18: out of NATO, right, we should not.

628
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 9: Donald Putin could do whatever.

629
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 18: The Holly wants, basically giving a yellow light to China

630
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 18: on Taiwan. I mean, you know, the autocratic alliance you

631
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 18: warn about is in many cases rooting rooting for Donald

632
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 18: Trump because they think it leads to American division and decline.

633
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 18: But the fact is is that right now for strong

634
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 18: on national security, one party party's leader seems to be

635
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 18: trying to weaken NATO, and the other party has has

636
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 18: expanded it in strengthen except.

637
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 17: He supposedly forced by Trump to do it. Withdrawal totally dishonorable,

638
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 17: bad disgrace. His presidency has not recovered from it since,

639
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 17: and our position abroad hasn't you control it?

640
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 19: Direct line from that disastrous, humiliating withdrawal to the reinvasion

641
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 19: of Ukraine in February of twenty twenty two. I mean,

642
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 19: I think what's weakness is the what is provocative is

643
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 19: the perception of weakness.

644
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 3: Now, let's end left is losing it with comic Andy

645
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 3: Hayes talking about why it's so much harder.

646
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: To live life as a lefty. This is actually pretty fun.

647
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 13: I am a liberal. I don't like it. It's not fun.

648
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 13: We all know that it's not fun. It's a full

649
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 13: time job. Conservatives, that must be so easy. You're not

650
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 13: learning any pronouns. You're leaving your air conditioning on, You're

651
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 13: throwing all your garbage in one hole. I'm out of here.

652
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 13: I'm like, did the composts go out? Is the compost out?

653
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 9: How are the refugees? Are the refugees all right?

654
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 13: What's the air quality index today? I remember last year

655
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 13: in New York January fifteenth, it was seventy five degrees

656
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 13: and all of us New Yorkers, all of us liberal

657
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 13: New Yorkers, we had to go outside and pretend that

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Speaker 13: was bad. We had to go out in a beautiful

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Speaker 13: January day and be like this sucks, right, climate change?

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Speaker 13: I'm in a T shirt.

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Speaker 2: This is awful.

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Speaker 3: Still to come, plenty more lefties losing it, content with

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Speaker 3: the brilliant Josh Hammer.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: The one and only debate between Donald Trump and Kamala

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Speaker 3: Harris is on tomorrow, and let's take a quick look

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Speaker 3: at the ABC moderators. David Muir and Lindsey Davis are

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Speaker 3: hardly impartial. Here is just a little taste of their

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Speaker 3: anti Trump bias. These are comments from less than a

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Speaker 3: month ago from Davis linking Trump to a white supremacist cause.

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Speaker 20: Former President Donald Trump is expected to go campaign and

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Speaker 20: Howard Michigan tomorrow. Many people are aware of that a

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Speaker 20: month ago in Howell KKK Peltester's marchmist roots with the

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Speaker 20: white robes on and suggested that they support Donald Trump.

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Speaker 20: I'm curious if if you make anything about that connection

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Speaker 20: in his going in particular to howld tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is Newsweek Senior editor at Large and

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Speaker 3: Article three Project Senior Council Josh Hamma. Josh, that was

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Speaker 3: a bizarre question from an ABC anchor. Well, Tomorrow's debate

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Speaker 3: BA level playing.

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Speaker 21: Field, Probably not, if I had to guess, I mean.

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Speaker 21: ABC News, of course, would be the same American media

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Speaker 21: outlet that hires George Stephanopolis to anchor its Sunday news show.

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Speaker 21: That people will probably recall that George Stefanopolis was one

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Speaker 21: of the pre eminent Clinton campaign staffers, along with Jimmy

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Speaker 21: Carvill back in nineteen ninety two. I mean, he is

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Speaker 21: about as partisan a Democrat as it gets in all

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Speaker 21: of the mainstream corporate media. This is not an objective

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Speaker 21: outlet at all. Actually read a if I think back,

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Speaker 21: it was on the precipice of the twenty twenty presidential election.

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Speaker 21: Wisconsin has become one of America's foremost swing states. It

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Speaker 21: was an ABC News poll just a handful of days

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Speaker 21: prior to the twenty twenty election that showed back then

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Speaker 21: that Joe Biden was allegedly up by seventeen points on

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Speaker 21: Donald Trump and Wisconsin the final mark and a victory

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Speaker 21: and ended up being less than one point. So, I mean,

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Speaker 21: there's definitely something in the water at ABC News. Fortunately

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Speaker 21: for Donald Trump, you know, if he plays his cards right,

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Speaker 21: it doesn't really matter. I think how the moderators approach this.

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Speaker 21: So the moderator is Kamala Harris Rita. They're going to

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Speaker 21: do everything they can to steer the conversation to two topics.

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Speaker 21: In particular, they're gonna do everything they can to steer

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Speaker 21: the conversation to so called our democracy because they painted

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Speaker 21: Donald Trump out to be a historical threat to the

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Speaker 21: Constitution and all that we stand for. The near assassination

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Speaker 21: of him a month and a half ago has not

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Speaker 21: slowed them down at all. They have that issue, and

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Speaker 21: then they have the abortion issue. If Donald Trump can

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Speaker 21: quickly respond to those two and then pivot to all

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Speaker 21: the other issues, namely immigration, the economy, inflation, and crime,

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Speaker 21: those are really the four issues right now. Those are

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Speaker 21: the four issues that the American people tell pulsters they

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Speaker 21: care most about. And Donald Trump is more trusted on

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Speaker 21: each of those four issues. So if he can quickly pivot,

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Speaker 21: so for example, on the question of our democracy, which

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Speaker 21: I'm sure is going to compet some point, all he

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Speaker 21: has to do. He's looking to the camera and very

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Speaker 21: straightforward and clearly say there is one person on this

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Speaker 21: steege whose Department of Justice is trying to incarsrate the opposition,

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Speaker 21: and guess what, it's not me, and then immediately pivot

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Speaker 21: to the economy, immigration, and so forth. If he can

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Speaker 21: do that, he's going to be in great shape.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 3: And I think he also has to just resist talking,

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Speaker 3: because the more Kamala talks, the more trouble she gets

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Speaker 3: herself into. And I think that will be difficult for

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump, but if he can restrain himself, it would

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Speaker 3: be fantastic. The Mail Online is revealing that Kamala Harris

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Speaker 3: is prepping for this debate by practicing against an AID.

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Speaker 2: In an Orange wig.

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Speaker 3: No reports yet whether it's this guy my favorite Trump impersonator.

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Speaker 3: What do you think about this? Is this a sign

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Speaker 3: that she's taking it deadly seriously or a sign that

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Speaker 3: a campaign isn't really run by adults?

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Speaker 21: Well, Damala Harris is in serious trouble. I mean Nate Silver,

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Speaker 21: who runs five thirty eight and he's probably America's foremost

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Speaker 21: political odds horse race prognosticare essentially the best statistical analyst

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Speaker 21: we have here now. Now, he himself is a is

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Speaker 21: a liberal leaning guy. I mean he calls it roughly straight.

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Speaker 21: But no one doubts that Nate Silver is a liberal.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 21: His model actually just a few hours ago actually changed

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Speaker 21: to Donald Trump having about a sixty five to sixty

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Speaker 21: six percent chance of winning the election. In fact, according

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Speaker 21: to Nate Silver's current model, Donald Trump is favored in

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Speaker 21: literally every single swing state right now, Nevada, Arizona, Georgia,

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Speaker 21: North Carolina, and all three of the big Rust Belt

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Speaker 21: states of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, especially Pennsylvania, which is

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Speaker 21: the largest electoral college prize of them all of all

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Speaker 21: the Swings states. So Donald Trump is actually in very

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Speaker 21: good shape right now. And you know, there were a

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Speaker 21: lot of people Rita who after they pulled the bloodless

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Speaker 21: cup of Joe Biden and inserted the cackling communists from California,

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Speaker 21: Kamala Harris in Joe Biden's stead, there are a lot

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Speaker 21: of people people who started freaking out. Yes, the polls

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Speaker 21: tied in there. You know, I have to say, I

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Speaker 21: don't want to pat myself in the back too hard,

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Speaker 21: but I was not one of them, because, as you

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Speaker 21: just said, the more people that actually listen to and

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Speaker 21: hear Kamala Harris talk, it's like an immediate repulsion. I mean,

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Speaker 21: it's like oil on water. The woman is just not

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Speaker 21: likable and she's I've obviously been profoundly terrible as an

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Speaker 21: actual leader. You know, she's been vice president of one

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Speaker 21: of the worst administrations in the entire history of the Republic.

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Speaker 21: Her presidential campaign twenty twenty bout out well before the

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Speaker 21: first votes were've been cast in Iowa. I could go

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Speaker 21: on here, but she's in big trouble, and what that

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Speaker 21: means in concrete, tangible terms is that she has a

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Speaker 21: lot on the line in this debate. So I'm not

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Speaker 21: surprised that that she's pulling out all these gimmicks, these stunts,

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Speaker 21: the orange haired wig or whatever they're because the stakes

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Speaker 21: are really really high for her, I would argue even

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Speaker 21: higher than for Donald Trump himself.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you there. I think the polls. Trump

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Speaker 3: always performs that poorly in polls compared.

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Speaker 2: To where is support really.

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Speaker 3: If if they're saying he's leading by three, he can

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Speaker 3: be sure he's probably leading by eight or nine. Now,

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Speaker 3: that's always been the experience with his numbers, including in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty. Now there's reports that Kamala Harris is looking

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Speaker 3: to name hard left Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison as

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Speaker 3: the US's top copper. Campaign team has reportedly told Arab

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Speaker 3: American leaders in Detroit that she could name Ellison, the

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Speaker 3: special prosecutor and the George Floyd case, as attorney general

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Speaker 3: as part of her administration. Trump officials told Fox News

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Speaker 3: Keith Ellison would be a natural fit in a Kamala

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Speaker 3: Harris administration.

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Speaker 2: Both are radical.

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Speaker 3: Liberals who support ending cash bail and releasing violent criminals

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Speaker 3: into American neighborhoods. Do we take these reports seriously?

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Speaker 8: Josh?

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Speaker 3: And she's already selected Tim Walls as her running mate.

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Speaker 3: How much more radically left can her administration be.

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Speaker 9: Read?

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Speaker 21: I think you might be surprised, and God forbid, I

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Speaker 21: think that I am my fellow Americans might be surprised.

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Speaker 21: Comes January twenty twenty five, if God forbid this ticket

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Speaker 21: actually prevails here. You know, Keith Ellison is not just

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Speaker 21: a radical when it comes to so called criminal justice reform,

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Speaker 21: when it comes to ending cash bail, when it comes

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Speaker 21: to jailbreak, when it comes to all these other post

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Speaker 21: George Floyd, post racial reckoning left wing agendas. You know,

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Speaker 21: the man is also fundamentally an Islamist. I mean he

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Speaker 21: is as cozy and close with care of the Council

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Speaker 21: and American Islamic relations as it gets care by the way,

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Speaker 21: it is recognized by by no less Muslim country as

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Speaker 21: the United Arab Emirates as a terrorist organization in Saudi Arabia,

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Speaker 21: if I'm not mistaken, has taken similar steps as well. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 21: much of the Democratic Party's elite class, their brass has

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Speaker 21: not gotten the memo. Keith Ellison is about as pro

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Speaker 21: care as it gets there. He's there in Minnesota, so

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Speaker 21: is Tim Wallas. That's illano Omar's backyard there. So this

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Speaker 21: is something I think of possibly a deliberate, a deliberate

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Speaker 21: leak that the Harris Walls campaign has probably done to

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Speaker 21: try to gin up enthusiasm among their far left, rathically

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Speaker 21: progressive pro Hamas base. They probably thought that the Democratic

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Speaker 21: National Convention was actually too even handed when it comes

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Speaker 21: to the Israeli Palestinian issue, if I had to guess. So, therefore,

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Speaker 21: they're trying to kind of throw out some breadcrumbs to

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Speaker 21: the radical base to try to get them excited for November.

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Speaker 21: But no one should make any mistake about this. Keith

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Speaker 21: Ellison would be an abominable, an abominable Attorney General of

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Speaker 21: the United States. He has been a horrific attorney general

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Speaker 21: in Minnesota. By the way, just real quick. One of

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Speaker 21: the other names that I've heard floated in case it's

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Speaker 21: not Keith Ellison for Kamala Harris's attorney general, God forbid

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Speaker 21: is woe by the name of Sally Yates. Sally Yates

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Speaker 21: made a lot of headlines in the first few days

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Speaker 21: of the Trump administray excuse me, yeah, the Trump ministration

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Speaker 21: back in January twenty seventeen, when she immediately instructed her

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Speaker 21: subordinates in the Trump DOJ to not enforce Trump's big

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Speaker 21: Day one immigration order, which the media disingenuously called the

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Speaker 21: so called Muslim Band. So that is another leading contender

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Speaker 21: for attorney general. It gives you an idea of what

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Speaker 21: they're thinking about.

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Speaker 3: It's shocking because we are trying to tell the broader

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Speaker 3: American public, not just those factions that you spoke of,

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Speaker 3: that she is a centrist, she's a moderate, she's a

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Speaker 3: safe pair of hands that you can trust to not

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Speaker 3: bankrupt the country. And yet when you hear about these

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Speaker 3: people she wants to include in her inner sanctum, they

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Speaker 3: are amongst the most radically left destructive forces in American politics.

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Speaker 3: But again, she did have the most liberal voting record

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Speaker 3: of any senator in twenty nineteen. That's her own track record,

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Speaker 3: so we know where she stands ideologically. Josh Hamma, thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for your time this evening.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much as others, and that's it from me.

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Speaker 2: Up next is Newsnight