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Speaker 1: It fits in with a very important Australian movie, high Ground,

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Speaker 1: which comes out next Thursday. All right now, actually it

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Speaker 1: kicks off Australia, do does it? Sorry it's usually Thursday

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Speaker 1: as we get movies, but next Tuesday, Australia Day. I

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Speaker 1: urge anyone take kids as well because it's very educational

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Speaker 1: and one man we love him to death, plays the

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Speaker 1: lead role. It is the beautiful Simon Baker, you're there mate?

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Speaker 2: How are you hands Oh you got a handsome bass.

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Speaker 2: So good to have you, mate.

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Speaker 1: It's how you been. So you've spent your Christmas and

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Speaker 1: your New Year's down here in Australia, Simon?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I be here for a couple of.

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Speaker 2: Years, coming to us Lide from Darwin this morning. Is

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Speaker 2: that correct?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right man, Simon. I was just up there

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago with a mate and I

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Speaker 1: went and watched the Wonderers play in the Northern Territory

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Speaker 1: Footy League, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: What do you know?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 2: I think?

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Speaker 1: The wet season scares people off going up to Darwin,

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Speaker 1: But how beautiful is it to see those rolling storms

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Speaker 1: come over? What a place to be? It's magnificent.

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Speaker 3: Oh I love it. It's just you're reminded completely how

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Speaker 3: insignificant you are, Like the power of the storms that

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Speaker 3: come in. It's unreal. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Don't it on a whole though? When you go into

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Speaker 2: Litchfield National Park and all around there, and if you're

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Speaker 2: lucky enough you going too Arnham Land, it's extraordinary and

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Speaker 2: you forget and you don't be coming from a city,

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Speaker 2: you forget that this exists in your country, like it

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Speaker 2: is spectacular.

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Speaker 3: Well we forget a lot, don't we.

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Speaker 1: This is why this movie is very important, Simon. And

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Speaker 1: it's visually stunning. Congratulations. I was lucky enough to see

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Speaker 1: it over the weekend mate, before we got to chat

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what?

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Speaker 1: It's hard to watch because you know what, unfortunately in

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Speaker 1: this country, that's a violent chapter in our history that

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Speaker 1: a lot of people have tried to push aside. But

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Speaker 1: I think we I think we're starting to accept it

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Speaker 1: a little bit more now. But mate, it's it's an

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Speaker 1: amazing movie. And the other thing as well. You've been

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Speaker 1: in this industry for a long time, Simon, so when

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Speaker 1: you see young kids come through like Jacob, is it Nigel?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Mate? He as a performance as a young indigenous actor.

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Speaker 1: He was like, he's the star of this movie. He's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: Mate.

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Speaker 3: He was Calf was he was basically an extra and

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Speaker 3: he was cast two days before he started shooting. A

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Speaker 3: kid walked onto the set. Is incredible. He's, you know,

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Speaker 3: from a culture of storytelling. Yes, it flows in his veins.

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Speaker 3: The only thing I said to him is just just

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Speaker 3: do what you're doing. Do you think so?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, there's such a powerful story and

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Speaker 2: it is moving, and there's many stories of this type

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Speaker 2: of behavior and history. As Fitzi mentioned before, when did

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Speaker 2: you first hear about this story in particular?

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Speaker 3: I was absolutely actually at the Gama Festival and it

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Speaker 3: was twenty seventeen and the Ularu Statement from the Heart

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Speaker 3: had come down in May and they had now con

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Speaker 3: Turnbule came up with Bill Shorten, you know, Prime Minister

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Speaker 3: and opposition leader at the time, and I've sort of

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Speaker 3: watched them politic their way out of engaging with the

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Speaker 3: Euura Statements from the Heart. And I'm sure one can

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Speaker 3: choose to look away because it's not a pretty thing,

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Speaker 3: it's not a pretty time of history, and or one

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Speaker 3: can choose to sit with the uncomfortableness of it, and

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Speaker 3: in that there's a chance that it can potentially heal

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Speaker 3: and you get used to the uncomfortableness of it. And

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Speaker 3: so I made a choice to myself. I guess that

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Speaker 3: I wanted to be involved in it.

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Speaker 4: Do you think showing films like this in schools is

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Speaker 4: a good idea? I mean, there's got to be a

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Speaker 4: way to really further impact the next generation, to make change.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, what did you learn about indigenous culture in school? Zero?

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Speaker 1: Yes, not a lot exactly. And the stolen generation you

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Speaker 1: don't hear about until you are a lot older. I

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Speaker 1: totally agree. And this is a past and the history.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we all do Australian history when we are

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Speaker 4: Focus though on the Captain Cook sort of stuff and that, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're writing gloss over all these issues.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and you know that's something to be ashamed of.

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Speaker 3: One way to feel and approach it. But another way

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Speaker 3: to approach it is to go, how amazing that there

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Speaker 3: is all this depth and richness of history. You know,

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Speaker 3: a sustainable culture that lived in harmony, in perfect sort

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Speaker 3: of balance with the environment for at least sixty five

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Speaker 3: thousand years. How arrogant. Are we as New Australians to

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Speaker 3: think that we've got the solution?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you do have a moral compass in this

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Speaker 1: movie your character does, do you know what? It's always

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Speaker 1: funny Simon. I Whenever Australia needs a prick to represent

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Speaker 1: the British Empire, Jack Thompson always gets here.

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Speaker 2: Jack.

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Speaker 1: He plays that role so well. He must be a

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Speaker 1: legend in your eyes as well, must have been. What

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Speaker 1: was it like for you when you have someone like

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Speaker 1: Jacob Jr. And you're coaching him through it and then

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Speaker 1: you've got a legend like Jack Thompson on the set

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 3: Simon, Well, it's sort of weird because I've known Jack

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Speaker 3: for a long long time as a friend, kind of

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Speaker 3: like working with, you know, a grandfather or sorry about that.

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Speaker 3: He's always been this sort of you know, iconic cinematic figure.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, that voice, it's like, you know, my lasses

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Speaker 3: crown on my head.

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Speaker 1: Hey, have you been getting some surfing? You've been out

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Speaker 1: in the ways.

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Speaker 3: I have a crack, yep.

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Speaker 2: A crack And do want to make the crocodiles? Have

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Speaker 2: you done any fishing man? Have you been barrel Monday fishing?

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Speaker 3: I did do a bit of bar and I went.

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Speaker 3: I went with this miss Madman, this guy called Matt Wright.

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Speaker 1: Twice. Isn't it an amazing experience? Simon?

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Speaker 2: Although, so did you vomit when you got out of

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Speaker 2: the chopper like fifty or were you Okay?

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Speaker 3: No, I didn't vomit. Make no, no, no no. But

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Speaker 3: I tell you I slept pretty well that night. I

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Speaker 3: think I must have released so much adrenaline through that

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Speaker 3: day that I slept like a baby that night, which

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Speaker 3: was good.

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Speaker 1: Did you see Tripod or bone Crusher any of the crocs?

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Speaker 3: I did? Yeah, I didn't meet bone Crusher. I met Otis.

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Speaker 3: I met a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: Fish.

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Speaker 2: You know what spins me out?

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Speaker 1: When he yells out for Otis, he goes God.

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Speaker 3: I actually called him on that.

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Speaker 2: What is that?

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Speaker 1: And I'm not joking. You can see in the distance

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Speaker 1: on the water the croc's head just come out of

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Speaker 1: the water set and then this triangular sort of ripple

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Speaker 1: come towards you as the crocs coming.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hilarious. It's like he's calling a kelpie and

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Speaker 3: suddenly a log comes to life that cruising towards you.

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Speaker 2: Extraordinary, isn't it? Wow? What a world.

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Speaker 1: This is a very important film Simon. It's very well

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Speaker 1: dunk and congratulations on it, mate. It is a brilliant

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Speaker 1: movie and I think, like you said, families out there

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Speaker 1: as well. I think this is a movie that all

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Speaker 1: kids should go and see as well to learn a

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Speaker 1: little bit more about Australian history.

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Speaker 2: High Ground.

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Speaker 1: It's out twenty eighth of January. Mate, Appreciate your time,

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Speaker 1: enjoy your time back home made. It's great to speak to.

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Speaker 3: You again, see you guys, good to chat.

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Speaker 2: Thanks anybody it fits in Whipper