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Speaker 1: O good a team, your bloody champions, Craig Anthony harpert'z

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Speaker 1: you project Kate Save? What's your middle name?

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Speaker 2: Patricia?

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Speaker 1: Kate? Patricia Save is joining us. Tiffany and Cook is

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Speaker 1: not here. But it's just us, two bloody champions, just

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Speaker 1: doing what we can on a Saturday afternoon at two

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Speaker 1: o four? Where are you at two four on a Saturday?

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Speaker 2: I am in the office by myself. I love the piece.

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Speaker 1: Are you at befit food HQ?

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Speaker 2: I am yes?

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Speaker 1: How's it going? And you're still raking in the money?

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Speaker 1: Do you need me to bring a wheelbarrow down and

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Speaker 1: fill it up with cash and help you get it

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Speaker 1: into the safe?

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Speaker 2: Do you know what that always could do with a

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Speaker 2: wheelbarrow full of money? Couldn't hurt?

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Speaker 1: What do you reckon? Like? Because you've got a pretty

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Speaker 1: big organization now and you just tell quickly people who

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Speaker 1: don't know you. So, hey, everyone, this is Kate. She's

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Speaker 1: got two degrees. She's got I'm going to read your

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Speaker 1: buyer because it never looked at it. Credited practicing dietitian.

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Speaker 1: How did exercise physiologists diabetes educator double the green nutrition?

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Speaker 1: Diabetics and exercise science advanced DIP in diabetes education, Masters

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Speaker 1: in clinical exercise, Masters in Business admin. Done. You're not underqualified,

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Speaker 1: let's say that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you're qualified nothing when you've done lots

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Speaker 2: and lots of different things. Because I think all it

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Speaker 2: does is open your mind to be more curious and

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Speaker 2: realize what you don't know.

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Speaker 1: Tell people about befit food, just so people who don't

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Speaker 1: know you can get or just give that whatever bio

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Speaker 1: of you you want. Who are you, Kate?

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Speaker 2: Who am I? I'm someone who's passionate about health. And

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Speaker 2: I think because I've seen over ten thousand patients in

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Speaker 2: my clinical sort of practice, what I'm recognized is the

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Speaker 2: majority of people actually knew what to do, very much

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Speaker 2: like the people that you coach. They know what to do,

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Speaker 2: they just can't bloody do it. It's too hard. They

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Speaker 2: need someone to coach them, to guide them, to make

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Speaker 2: them more curious and to have some confidence. And I

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Speaker 2: think beefit Food I developed it. It's ten years this

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Speaker 2: what they needed to eat. They were just too time

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Speaker 2: for So everything that I'd talked to them about I

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Speaker 2: put into the food, the four to twelve veggies, high protein,

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Speaker 2: low CAUP, no added sugar, no artificial sweetness, no added

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Speaker 2: So just whole food, super super simple and small portions

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Speaker 2: because I think at the end of the day people

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Speaker 2: but that allows you to have your couple of pieces

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Speaker 2: a dark chocolate, your glass of wine, you're whatever it

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Speaker 2: but they've got everything jam packed in them that you need.

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Speaker 1: I reckon like, for a lot of my life, a

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Speaker 1: lot of my life, I just well, how much, Craig,

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Speaker 1: how much of your life? At least at least a third,

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Speaker 1: maybe nearly a half of my life. I just ate

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Speaker 1: And there's a few other variables. But at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, Craig, if you're expending on average twenty

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Speaker 2: Now it's the ultra process food market. It hijacks your brain.

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Speaker 2: So your brain was literally hijacked by the top three,

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Speaker 2: And that's the sad reality of it is that you

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Speaker 2: I actually interviewed Professor Felice Jacka, who I believe you've

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Speaker 2: chatted to as well, haven't you the smiles trial Deacon, No,

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Speaker 2: you'd love her as you need a chat, Deacon, Distinguished

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Speaker 2: Professor Felice Jacka. Oh, I am just a few things,

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Speaker 1: So just just for your interest in mine and our listeners,

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Speaker 1: Smiles trial, the Smiles acronym is supporting the modification of

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Speaker 1: lifestyle in lowered emotional states. But it is, I mean

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Speaker 1: everything's intertwined, isn't it, Like like marketing is intertwined with psychology.

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Speaker 1: I mean marketing is essentially psychology, right.

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Speaker 1: Try it well, it is. I mean marketing, you know

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Speaker 2: There's nothing exciting about a tic tac, Yet people buy

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Speaker 2: Like people up? You know, white people buy them?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, why do people buy a three hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: Okay? So I decided to give up alcohol for a year.

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Speaker 2: reason for doing it was not because I drink a lot.

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Speaker 2: I probably I'm lucky to get a drink once a fortnite.

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Speaker 2: but I wanted to understand the psychology behind it, the

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Speaker 2: marketing behind it, because when I ask people why they drink,

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Speaker 2: they always see they feel more relaxed, or if they're

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Speaker 2: I now go and have they all know I'm not

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Speaker 2: drinking alcohol, and they've got some non alcoholic something for me,

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Speaker 2: and they know I like, they're no added sugar ones.

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Speaker 2: alcohol or the sugar. So what is it? Is it

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Speaker 1: That's my motivation. And it's just like, Wow, there's so

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. And so that's stat around childhood obesity. It's eighty

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Speaker 1: What's the bigger margin? What are people you know, what

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Speaker 1: How ironic is that the thing that we absolutely, like,

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Speaker 2: full of soft drink and down three laters a day,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. I lost a friend on dialysis too from sugar,

430
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 2: and he had amputated toe and it should have been feet,

431
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: should have been more, but he died before the extra amputations.

432
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 2: But five hours, three times a week on dialysis. I

433
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 2: used to sit with him and chat to him, and

434
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 2: he goes, God, I wish him to wish I listened

435
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 2: to my doctor when I was forty and I was

436
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: a pilot. He told me, if I don't stop eating

437
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 2: like this, I'm going to die of a heart attack.

438
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 2: By the time I'm sixty, I'm going to lose my legs.

439
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 2: He told him everything, and you'll be blind. And he goes,

440
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 2: I'm sitting here now, and every single thing my doctor

441
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 2: told me he was right about. He goes, except outlive

442
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 2: the doctor.

443
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: So isn't it interesting how we It's almost like we

444
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: have to have some tragedy personally happen. Not everyone, of course,

445
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 1: but how many people get told a version of that?

446
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: If you don't do this, then this is probably a

447
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 1: likely outcome. And I'm not trying to judge our listeners

448
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 1: or anyone here, but I'm thinking, how many times did

449
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: you know, even myself, Like, there's stuff I'm going to

450
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: throw me under the bus. There's stuff that I've done

451
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: over the years, not necessarily around for just shit, you know,

452
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: habits and patterns and behaviors that were somewhat counter intuitive

453
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: and counterproductive and borderline toxic. But it's like, oh, I

454
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: kept doing avert. You know, for me, part of it

455
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: was food. I mean, I kept I've told you this,

456
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: but you know I was. I was a fat kid,

457
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: and then I got in shape, but I still didn't

458
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: really sort out my relationship with food. I was just

459
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: white knuckling it for years because I hadn't really created

460
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: massive internal shift where I had really created a new normal.

461
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: It took me until I was about thirty five. But

462
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: I remember, even in my late twenties and early thirties, Kate,

463
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: I got I got out of shape again, but I

464
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: had lots of muscle, and I always wore the right

465
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 1: clothes and all that shit. But I was so I'm

466
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: made five kilos now, I was one hundred and seventeen kilos,

467
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: so thirty two kilos heavier at one stage. At stage,

468
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: I owned three gyms, and I was basically giving people

469
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,719
Speaker 1: advice that I wasn't following like you know I was,

470
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: and it I I can't remember exactly what happened, but

471
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: I had an epiphany. I can't remember if anything triggered it,

472
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: or I remember thinking part of it was. I remember

473
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,719
Speaker 1: seeing myself in a photo that was not all of it,

474
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: but part of it, and I went, I look fucking

475
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: I was humiliated and embarrassed because I had Now I'm

476
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: only talking about me, everyone, don't get angry. I had

477
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: deluded myself to what I looked like. And I went, oh,

478
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: my god, you are You are a morbidly obese bloke

479
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: who owns a gym and multiple gyms and tells people

480
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,959
Speaker 1: how to eat and train and optimize their life, and

481
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: you're not fucking doing it. You're a fraud. And I

482
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: just went right, I'm you know, I have to put

483
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: up my hand and go, I'm the problem. I am, literally,

484
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: And I can tell myself all the stories, Oh you've

485
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: got lots of muscle and you but yet all that

486
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: bullshit it's going yea, yeah, but I'm literally fucking up

487
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: my own health and that I would say. It took

488
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,239
Speaker 1: me until I was about forty before I think I

489
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: really kind of where I had created a normal operating

490
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: system that actually worked. And it wasn't. It wasn't discipline

491
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: and self control and will power right, but it just

492
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: like getting your food right or your booze right, or

493
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: your body right, because there's so much We have so

494
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: much emotion around our eating and our socializing and our

495
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: appearance and our weight. So I understand all the pain

496
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: that people have.

497
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also you.

498
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 1: Can't get another body. It's fucking look up for that one.

499
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 2: Yes, And I think too to really remove the actual

500
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: kilo's weight scales part, I don't weigh myself, not for

501
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 2: any other reason than we've got really bloody, annoying scales

502
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 2: and they're digital and you've got to touch the buttons

503
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: and bend down and touch them, and I don't. I'm

504
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: just too lazy too, So I just don't weigh myself.

505
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: But I know that my weight doesn't really change by much.

506
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: I think it always stays within a five KI low window.

507
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 2: But that's because I do mostly the same things, and

508
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: I think it's only if I would I changed or

509
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 2: stopped exercising completely. And I'm not someone who's obsessed with exercise.

510
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: I do pilates twice a week, and I just make

511
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 2: sure I go for a couple of runs or walks

512
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: or a bit of strength training. But the weight isn't

513
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: the trigger. It's how you feel in terms of your energy,

514
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 2: your emotions. For me, if I'm not looking after myself,

515
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: my glands go up. So it's not weight, it's what

516
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: should your body feel like. And if you're used to

517
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: feeling one hundred percent, then you know when you're at ninety.

518
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: If you're used to feeling ninety percent, you know when

519
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: you're at seventy. And if you're only used to feeling

520
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: fifty percent but you're waking up at twenty percent, there's

521
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: something wrong and everybody should be able to feel one

522
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: hundred perc. I believe that because I've seen people go

523
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: I just didn't know that I could wake up with energy.

524
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: I didn't know that I could get out of bed

525
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: in the morning and feel good. And that's if you

526
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: haven't felt like that, it's possible. But if people don't

527
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: tell people it's possible to feel like that. They can't

528
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: make an effort to feel better. So it's not the weight,

529
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: it's the health of the total body. And you know

530
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: in your own brain what that feels like and if

531
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: your body feels healthy. So I think, yes, being overweight

532
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: and carrying lots of body fat is really hazardous for help. However,

533
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: there is no perfect number, There is no perfect weight.

534
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: It is when do you feel supercharged? When do you

535
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: feel amazing? When are your joints not sore or not inflamed,

536
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 2: or your energy levels or your brain working clear and

537
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 2: those sorts of things.

538
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you said a good thing. Oh, you said

539
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: lots of good things. But one thing. I think a

540
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: lot of people who haven't really kind of really really

541
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: tried to optimize their body and their genetics and you know,

542
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: nutrition and lifestyle. I think sometimes they get they're shocked at.

543
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: I want to tell you a quick story. So when

544
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: I opened my first studio, which was nine ninety, Australia's

545
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: first PT studio, i'd literally been open for a couple

546
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: of months and on the door downstairs this was pre

547
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: I mean it was Harper's, but it wasn't called that.

548
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: So my gyms were called Harper's, but my first studio,

549
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: it just had Craig Harper Fitness Consultants, which was very

550
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: fancy in ninet ninety, Like, all fuck is a consultant?

551
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I was just a fucking bodybuilder trying to

552
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: be fancy, right, But anyway, this lady came up the

553
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: stairs and she was seventy one years old. I won't

554
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: say her name. She was carrying a basket, you know,

555
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: the cane basket with the handle, sir, and she wanted

556
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: to lose some weights and she had no idea. She'd

557
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: never been to a gym, she'd never really been an exerciser,

558
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: and she was overweight and unfits and unhealthy, but seventy

559
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: one years old and walked up because it said fitness consultant.

560
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: Then she walked up and she basically just walks into

561
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: this pet studio where there's this big fucking buffhead in

562
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: the singlet training himself in the middle of the day

563
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: called Craig Harper. And then she opens the door, comes

564
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: into the gym because she walks up some stairs and

565
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 1: then sees me and absolutely just shits herself, herns around

566
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: and starts to walk out. So I quickly kind of

567
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: go saialo and I somehow talk her into doing a

568
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: session and she's terrified. So I said just come in

569
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: later or come in. Maybe it was the next day,

570
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: and I said, let's just do thirty minutes something. I'm

571
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: not going to charge you. Come in and if you

572
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: don't like it, don't come back. And if you like it,

573
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: we'll maybe do a few more. No pressure, no, you know,

574
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: zero zero costs, zero risk. And so I didn't even

575
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: know she turned up. She came back next day. The

576
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: quick version is this, so I started working out with her.

577
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: She literally couldn't run thirty meters like she was, you know,

578
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: very overweight, very unhealthy. Everything that you shouldn't do apart

579
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: from cigarettes, she did.

580
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: Yep.

581
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: Fast forward about eight months and what age was she

582
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: seventy one?

583
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: Right? Okay?

584
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: Her and I did a five k fun run. She ran, ran,

585
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: She did not walk one step. She ran the five

586
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: k's I remember her. I shouldn't say this, but it

587
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: was just funny. She was a cack. She was quite

588
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: big and quite busty, and she used to hold her

589
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: boobs when she ran, and she'd be like, you'll be

590
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: the death of me, you know. In order we got on.

591
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: I was kind of almost like her grum's grandson, because

592
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: I was a kid then. But anyway, this beautiful woman,

593
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: and oh she lost forty k's. She went from like

594
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: ninety five to like fifty five. She was little, she

595
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: was short, and she started running and started strength training

596
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: and she would dead lift, she would squat, she would

597
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: do and her family, her daughter rang me and asked

598
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: to come and see me, and she said, I'm on

599
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: behalf of my family. Thank you. And when we did that,

600
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: and I mean I was just coaching it. I didn't

601
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: do any of the work. She did one hundred percent

602
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: of the work. And I said that to the daughter,

603
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: I go, your mom is fucking awesome. But you know

604
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: what I loved because she didn't have any idea of

605
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: her capacity, and so when I said we're going to

606
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: do this, she didn't have a reference point to say, oh,

607
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: that's too much, or that's too heavy, or that's too far.

608
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: She would just say can I do that? And I'd go, yes,

609
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: you can, and so she would just do.

610
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: It no way.

611
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: My long point is we've got a lot of potential

612
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: at any age.

613
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely well. I got the biggest shock I was filming

614
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: on Thursday. I've got a message from my dad saying

615
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: I've just joined the gym. We can talk about it

616
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 2: at dinner tonight. And he's eighty two. He turned eighty

617
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 2: two in January. We lost Mom two years ago. So

618
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: Mum was seventy, Dad was eighty mm went to aerobics

619
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 2: five days a week, she ate all the right things,

620
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 2: she was fifty five kilos and she died of no

621
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: known cause. And Dad had funeral insurance for himself because

622
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 2: he ate McDonald's. He worked a you know, sedentary jobby's

623
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 2: whole life. He was not particularly healthy. Mom was supposed

624
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: to live forever. Dad was meant to die. He even

625
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: had his funeral insurance. So when Mom died, Dad's like whoa,

626
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: Like that was supposed to me? Me, how did this happen?

627
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: And you know, none of us know, but that's the world.

628
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: It's a weird place. So then Dad, ever since Mom

629
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: has died, has started all these really really healthy behavior.

630
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 2: So I went over there the other day and like

631
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 2: he's sitting in his couch and I go, like, there's

632
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: no glass of wine there. Usually every afternoon of his

633
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 2: life he'd drink a couple of glasses of wine and

634
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: I go, what are you eating? And he goes, oh,

635
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: I've just got some yogan and berries. Not that sweet

636
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 2: and stuff though, just you know, the plain, great yogat

637
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 2: and berries, and I go. Mommy's literally turning in her

638
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 2: grave to think that eighty two year old dad would

639
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: touch yogurt and fruit like he was the macas guy.

640
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 2: He would. He's a very good cook, so he could

641
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: cook everything, cook very healthy, bring us up. We never

642
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: had crap in the house, but he would sneak out

643
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: every day and get Chinese takeaway or macas and then

644
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 2: he'd cook a healthy dinner for everyone, but he'd never

645
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: eat it because he wasn't hungry. And I just can't

646
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: believe that he's decided to join the gym. He goes,

647
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: have you seen the facility. It's amazing. Yeah, I'm gonna

648
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: I'm joining the gym. He's never done a day of

649
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: exercise in his life. Mum used to beg him on

650
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 2: holidays to come sight seeing with us, but he didn't

651
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: want to walk, so he barely he would barely go sightseeing.

652
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: And it's just unbelievable what he's discovered now that it's

653
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 2: his health and he wants to be there for the grandkids,

654
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 2: so he walks twice a day from his new little

655
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: unit down to the shops and back, and it's half

656
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: an hour each way. He's walking over an hour a day.

657
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: And he said to me when he first started doing it, oh,

658
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: my hip was a bit sore and this and that,

659
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, oh, yeah, you've probably got lots of

660
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: join issues, lots of information. He goes, oh, but it's

661
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 2: all better now that I've been walking. It's gone. All

662
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: this pain at eighty two is gone, and he's a

663
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: completely different human. I'm out own away.

664
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: That is amazing. But I don't know if you should

665
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: tell that story. The reason I don't know is you're

666
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: kind of fucking undermining your earlier message.

667
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well there you go. No, but you can

668
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 2: change with any stage. And I think that's a you think.

669
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: And so I'm powering and how people feel is everything.

670
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: And Dad is so freaking smart. He's like an owl

671
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: if you see him, he's like a wise out. He

672
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 2: knows everything there is to know about the process bood

673
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: and he tells me about it all the time. So

674
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: he's decided now he's not going to put that stuff

675
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: in his body. He's done it his whole life. But

676
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: now he's decided no, I'm not going to do it,

677
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: and I don't well, I do know what the switch was.

678
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: The switch was mum dying, but that I don't know

679
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: how he took that message. We thought he'd wallowing, you know,

680
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: he's pitying his sadness and just curl up and die,

681
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: which often happens when people are being together that long

682
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: and or you know, loneliness and all that sort of thing.

683
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 2: But he didn't. He's gone the complete opposite.

684
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: Oh, good for dad, Good for dad, And also, isn't

685
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 1: it good? I love it when people start to educate

686
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: themselves about like what does this do to my body?

687
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 2: Yeah? What is that?

688
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 1: If? I? Oh, what's you know? Like I've been teaching

689
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: my mum and dad you know about Okay, so here's

690
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: what happens if you have great sleep. Here's what happens

691
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: if you have shit sleep, right, and you know where

692
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: Obviously everyone knows sleep's important. But when you start to understand, oh, well,

693
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: maybe I need a sleep strategy, maybe I need some

694
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: kind of protocol because everything else in my life is

695
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: pretty good except my sleep. Well, guess what if you

696
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: eat well and you exercise well, and you've got pretty

697
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: good genetics, and your lifestyle is healthy, but you're chronically underslept,

698
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: You're not going to be healthy despite all the other stuff.

699
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: Absolutely, So it's my first.

700
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: Ye one hundred percent, and we need and it's not Look,

701
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: we don't need to be extreme, but just like you

702
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: want to plan with your food, you want to plan

703
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: with your exercise some of us and like, probably the

704
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,959
Speaker 1: biggest challenge is it the big I would think collectively

705
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: the biggest challenge that people have that I talk to is, Yes,

706
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: food is an issue, exercises issue, motivation is an issue.

707
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: I reckon. Nearly fifty percent of people I talk to though,

708
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: say I don't sleep.

709
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: Great, absolutely, and I hear that every day. And I know,

710
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: you know, particularly for brain health, and I think the

711
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: damage that can happen at any age by not sleeping.

712
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: But if you've got kids that are not sleeping because

713
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: they're on devices and the blue light and kids now

714
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: having anxiety and depression and apparently fifty percent of depression

715
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: is diagnosed under the age of fourteen. So this was

716
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 2: Professor Police Jaka telling me this the other day, and

717
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: I was like, fifty percent. So if you're going to

718
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: get depression, fifty percent of people get it at such

719
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 2: a young age. I was so surprised by that. But

720
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: sleep plays a role in that as well, so food, exercise, sleep.

721
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: And then on the other end of the spectrum with

722
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: the older people, like dementia and memory loss and all

723
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,479
Speaker 2: of that excelerated by not having enough sleep. So god

724
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: knows what happens in the middle. We're probably too busy

725
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: to notice, but it's going to get us at some stage.

726
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: And also you know, digestion and in crime system and

727
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, everything like brain health everything. I mean,

728
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: there's such a myriad of variables and outcomes from that.

729
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: But also back to kids and teenagers. You think, what

730
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 1: is and I know we're not inventing the wheel here,

731
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: this is not a new conversation, but the relationship between well,

732
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: how long are your kids on their devices and what

733
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: time do they go to bed in relation or what

734
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 1: time do they try to go to sleep. Well, if

735
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: you were playing with your your phone or your iPad

736
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: or your computer or whatever until ten and then at

737
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: ten oh two you're trying to sleep, good luck, because

738
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: your brain is lit up like a fucking Christmas tree.

739
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: You're not going to sleep. Yeah, your brain's in this

740
00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: hyper vigilant state that is, you know, and then the

741
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: idea of all right, so you're going to go to

742
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: bed at nine point thirty, no screens for worst an

743
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: hour and a half, yeah, before bed, like and then

744
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: they're like, but what would I do? Oh, I don't know,

745
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: something other than look at a screen.

746
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And I've noticed my ten year old she'll say, Mum,

747
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: can we read a book before bed? Now hated reading?

748
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: You know, maybe he's a little little kid loved having

749
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 2: a book read to her. She still doesn't like reading.

750
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: But for some reason, I don't know whether it's come

751
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: from school or it's come from YouTube or something else.

752
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: She knows that her brain's not going to shut down,

753
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: she's not going to sleep if she's on her device

754
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 2: before bed. And I noticed this week she's actually started journaling.

755
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: And I said, what are you doing? She's like, oh,

756
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: I got one of your notebooks. Can I use this

757
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 2: someone to write a diary? And she started writing a diary,

758
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: and I'm all, at a peek, I'm so curious what

759
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: she's putting in there. And I'm like, even though that's

760
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: a you know, a dear diary, that's journaling. And I'm like,

761
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: there's so much young kids can teach us that we

762
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: should be doing. So she reads a book and she journals,

763
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: so she doesn't die at ten. And yeah, I don't

764
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: know if that's intuitive. It's certainly not something that we've

765
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 2: role modeled or told her or made her do, so

766
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: maybe it is intuitive. If I don't know, I'm very

767
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: surprised at the behavior because it's not something that we've

768
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: directly intervened with.

769
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: I love journaling. I love, you know, even with back

770
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: in the day when I used to train a lot

771
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: of people a different kind of journaling, but I got

772
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: them to journal everything from sleep to food to exercise, sets, reps, mood, energy, drinks, coffee, tea, booze, micros, macros,

773
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: And I know we have trackers for that now, but

774
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 1: I love the manual, physical, tactile process of writing shit

775
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: with my hand and a pen in a book. And

776
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: then I can open the book and go what do

777
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: I eat last Wednesday? What time do I go to bed,

778
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: What time did I get up? How much water did

779
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: I drink? How much coffee did I have? How much

780
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: tea did I have? What time did I eat dinner?

781
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: How was I feeling? Because when you get all this

782
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: data down, all of a sudden patterns emerge and you go, ohhh.

783
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: When I do this, it produces that outcome. I feel

784
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: like this when I in like thirteen minutes before bed,

785
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: I sleep like shit. My sleep quality is a four

786
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: and ah right, and I just think and with that,

787
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: you know, you can also put down you know, how

788
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: do you feel? You motivated today? You demotivated today? I mean,

789
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: even even me, like I'm fucking special, how arrogance? What

790
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: I was about? Say husband, say even me, Puck and

791
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: even Craig Harper who knew, but even me, I have

792
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: shit days And I don't even know why I'm having

793
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: a shit day now, Not like I want to, you know,

794
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: fucking crack the sads to the world, but days where

795
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: I feel flat or a little bit of low level

796
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: anxiety or a little bit sad or.

797
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: Human just a little bit here.

798
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm like, ah, what, there's no fucking now.

799
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: Of course there's a reason, but it's not apparent to

800
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 1: me in the moment. But you know, to anyone who's

801
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: listening who thinks, you know, I would really like to

802
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: know how I work, as in you, how you work better?

803
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: How about this? How about you commit to one hundred

804
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: days of journaling, and not not seven days, not ten days,

805
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: one hundred days of writing down all of those things

806
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 1: that are going to impact you know, like mind stuff,

807
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: brain stuff, energy stuff, physical stuff, productivity, efficiency outlook, you know,

808
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: problem solving, resilience, all of those things, everything from sleep

809
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: and food and exercise to you know, how many stimulants

810
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: you're having, and how much like I just think it's

811
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: a good project and process to learn about ourselves.

812
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 2: You know, I couldn't agree more. I've kept a food

813
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: record since I decided to be a dietitian or maybe

814
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: a personal trainer, so many many decades actually, so I

815
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 2: actually have never gone back and looked at them, but

816
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: I have a whole box of them in the bottom

817
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 2: of the cupboard in the office at home, and I

818
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: literally just scribble down at the end of each day.

819
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: So maybe that's what my kids think I'm journaling or

820
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: something that they've role modeled. But I literally write down

821
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: my food, my exercise, if I've taken any supplements, or

822
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 2: i I've had alcohol, or what I've drunk, or where

823
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: I've been in every country the world that I've ever

824
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 2: traveled to. I've never ever missed a day, And why

825
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: do I do it? I feel like I have an

826
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,479
Speaker 2: obligation to my clients because I used to make them

827
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: do it every single day. Yeah, and if I was

828
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: hands on practicing every day, I would do it with

829
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: one hundred percent of people. I make my husband do

830
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: it when he goes on a challenge. I'm like, write

831
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: down your food. If you want to control what you eat,

832
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: you need to hold it. It will change your behavior.

833
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,240
Speaker 2: You need to write it down because if you don't

834
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: reflect on it, you can't change it. It's only in

835
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: the reflexion that the mirrors held back up at you

836
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 2: when you can see what you're doing. Like, the patterns

837
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 2: are behaviors. So the act of just writing it down

838
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 2: actually helps people change behaviors. We did a small clinical

839
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: trial and the placebo was writing down your food. They

840
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,479
Speaker 2: lost point eight of a kilo in a week, and

841
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 2: versus the other arm we put them on beef it food,

842
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 2: they lost three point two kilos in a week. But

843
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: the act of writing it down they have better behavior.

844
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter what they point they write it down three.

845
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: Point two that's a fucking lot of weight.

846
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, But do you know the big thing is it

847
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: was their blood sugar levels reduced by ninety percent below

848
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: the line, which means that the people that they are

849
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 2: all type two, they all had type two diabetes. And

850
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: when they lost point eight of a kilo in week

851
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 2: one by just eating their normal food, their blood sugar

852
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: level stayed saying, which is all over the place. So

853
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 2: we monitor them two hundred and eighty eight times a day,

854
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 2: so every five minutes for seven days, and we charted

855
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: it and their sugar levels changed a little bit, but

856
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 2: ninety percent of theirs sugar levels were in the diabetic range,

857
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: which is what you'd expect for a diabetic. When they

858
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 2: went on beefit food for seven days, ninety percent of

859
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: their blood sugar levels came back into the healthy, non

860
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: diabetic range, which shows that if you eat well for

861
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: seven days, you can put your diabetes into emission if

862
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: you can find a way to sustain it. And that

863
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: is my goal for beefit food is to be in prevention.

864
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to be in treatment. But the problem

865
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: is sixty seven percent of people need treatment and are

866
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: seeking treatment and a googling weight loss. They're not googling

867
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 2: health prevention. They're not googling. I just want to be healthy.

868
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 2: They're googling things, and you've got to feed that Google monster,

869
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: that metaur Facebook, Instagram monster. You've got to be where

870
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: they're looking. But for me, it's about health improvement, feeling good,

871
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: role modeling, healther behavior. My kids eat the meals because

872
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: they're no different to my lazagnia. If I give them

873
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 2: the lazagna, it's whole meal lasagna. It's nothing special about it.

874
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 2: It just has heaps of hidden veggies. You grade it

875
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: in like it's like their babies, and they don't know

876
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 2: it's there. It's lasagna.

877
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's You know what is amazing how many people

878
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 1: don't realize that you can go from being a type

879
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: two diabetic, like with all the physiological issues that go

880
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: with that too, as you said to kind of not

881
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: being a dimission yeah, like well inter remission where yeah,

882
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: and wow, that's interesting. That's your what.

883
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 2: Bubbles up in your bloodstream over about twenty years. So

884
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 2: people say, my blood sugar levels are fine. I don't

885
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: think I'm I'm going to develop diabetes. Even though they

886
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: may have been gaining weight every year for the last

887
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: one to two decades. They don't feel themselves. They've got

888
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 2: no energy, they've got triglys ride levels, fat levels in

889
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 2: the blood going up, all these other things. But they

890
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: go into a glucose or a HPA one C and

891
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: the doctor says, oh, your glucose is normal. Well, guess

892
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 2: what your insulin, your fat storage hormone is going through

893
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 2: the roof to make it normal. So it's all a

894
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: cover up. Your body is covering it up. And then

895
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 2: one day you're going to go to the doctor and

896
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: they go, guess what, You've got diabetes. You go, You've

897
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: never even told me I was at risk. You've told

898
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 2: me it's been perfect the last twenty years, even though

899
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 2: I've eaten a you know, all the things I sort

900
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 2: of know I haven't, and I know I've gained at

901
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 2: least one kilo a year or half a kilo a year.

902
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: But when you do that over twenty five years, it's

903
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: not good for your body. You need to have these

904
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: signs and symptoms to actually you know, have a rain

905
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: check and you know, look at your behaviors. So insulin

906
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: resistance is completely completely hidden. People are not looking for

907
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 2: insulin resistance because they don't know how to do, because

908
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 2: the doctors don't test for it. You've got to do

909
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: a Homer index, and doctors will not do that. It's

910
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 2: too hard, too expensive, takes too much time. So how

911
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: do you know, Well, if you're slowly gaining weight over time,

912
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 2: there's a very good chance you've got inchulin resistance. Forty

913
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 2: percent of the population have it, and ninety percent of

914
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: people that have insulin resistance will have what we call

915
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 2: metabolic inflexibility, or where they're fuel that they eat, instead

916
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: of going into their bloodstream for energy, goes straight into

917
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: their fat stores, So they keep gaining weight every time

918
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: they eat, even though they're not doing anything particularly wrong

919
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 2: or eating particularly bad. They have insulin resistance, and the

920
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: only way to correct it is to reverse things back

921
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: the other way with all the healthy behaviors that we

922
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: talk about consistently.

923
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not much fun though, it's.

924
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 2: Not unless you, Yeah, what part of it's fun doing

925
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: it with friends, working out with friends? You know what's

926
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 2: fun without the cake? I don't know what's.

927
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: Fun as the result the results.

928
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's how you feel. The energy that you wake

929
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 2: up with, the energy you go to bed with, the positivity,

930
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: the mood during the day, and we know it's connected

931
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: to moods, so yeah.

932
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. How do people find you? Follow you, connect

933
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: with you? And where can they actually get some beefit food?

934
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 2: Go to the website for beefit Food or Chemists Warehouse

935
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 2: there are biggest supporter at the moment, they are going

936
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 2: to roll it out in all stores. We're in thirty

937
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 2: Ish stores. They've got over five hundred and fifty in Australia,

938
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: plus with their merger the other day with Sigma, we'll

939
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: go into all their other stores and everything as well

940
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 2: over time. But online, Chemists Warehouse and then all the

941
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 2: little riches and IDAs are very supportive. You'll find a

942
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: handful of meals in Woolies. Up until sort of mid

943
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 2: this year, we were fighting the battle. But we were

944
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 2: told the other day even the gluten free section said,

945
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 2: even though it's gluten free, people aren't looking for healthy

946
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 2: gluten free, they're just looking for you know, what's already there.

947
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, the old process crap in the

948
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 2: healthy gluten free section, right, Okay, Well we don't fit

949
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 2: there because we're too healthy, so.

950
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: There be less healthy. That's the take home.

951
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah Instagram Kate save yeah.

952
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: Perfect, Sorry if it's up, always good to chat to you.

953
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: So informative, so inspirational and so authentic and I love

954
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: that about you and today getting a little bit fired up,

955
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: which I love to see.

956
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you bring it out in me, Craig. You

957
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 2: find the little spot and it's like, you know, you

958
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 2: just poke it and then it erupts.

959
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my job. That's my job to poke the

960
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 1: metaphoric bear. All right, say goodbye affair. But as always,

961
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: Kate saved befit food. I eat beefit food. I'm not

962
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: going to say all the time, but I've eaten a

963
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: bunch of them. Everybody, really good, give it a go,

964
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: Give it a go. And if you are struggling and

965
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: they go, this is not a sales pitch. This is

966
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: just truly what I think. You know that I don't

967
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: promote anything that I don't believe in. In fact, I've

968
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: turned back lots of money because people wanted me to

969
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: promote shit that I thought was rubbish.

970
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 2: Won't.

971
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: But I genuinely think this is a great product. So

972
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: at the very least, if you need to maybe think

973
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: about trying to reverse a few things that need to

974
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: be reversed, or change some habits and behaviors, or you

975
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: need some structure and you need some kind of plan

976
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: to move forward with your reading in a healthy way.

977
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: Go check them out.

978
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 2: Thanks Kate, thank you, and look forward to tuning in again.

979
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: Perfect