WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 4 September

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you, James,

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<v Speaker 1>all the best to Sharry. See her again tomorrow or

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<v Speaker 1>definitely next week. We've got lots to get to tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>including a massive debate. And yes, I'm going to rip

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<v Speaker 1>into Jim Chalmers. How can you not after the garbage

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<v Speaker 1>that he's been serving up today. Oh, it's all a

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<v Speaker 1>global and systemic problem, loang, and it was very personal

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<v Speaker 1>when it was the other bloke. And I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>why Australia is actually underperforming the rest of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you believe there's a plan for facial recognition to

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<v Speaker 1>be the way that you may end abit paying for things?

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<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't even need to double tap or beep, you

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<v Speaker 1>would just use your face. What could possibly go wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>And the Great Meghan Kelly joins us to discuss two

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<v Speaker 1>months ago in the American election and about a week

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<v Speaker 1>ago until the debate. But first, every now and then

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<v Speaker 1>we like to try to focus and start with some

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<v Speaker 1>good news. We know how tough the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>news is. It doesn't mean we won't talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>serious stuff, but an update on some stuff that we

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<v Speaker 1>hope will make you smile, including your update today on

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<v Speaker 1>the little Bubba that we've been following for more than

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<v Speaker 1>a week now, the little Bubba who, of course was

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<v Speaker 1>burnt by a lunatic who decided to pour what was

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<v Speaker 1>hot coffee and now we understand a thermos full of

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<v Speaker 1>it and he's been pretty badly burned. Now, we brought

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<v Speaker 1>you the news on Sunday that thankfully he is up

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<v Speaker 1>at walking, laughing again. Well, the good news I can

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<v Speaker 1>bring you now comes via a social media post of

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<v Speaker 1>his mum. They're out of hospital. In a social media post,

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<v Speaker 1>the woman said that he has been home for a

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<v Speaker 1>few hours. He's already knocked his head like toddlers often do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be a great few months. She's of

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<v Speaker 1>course saying that because back to hospital on Friday and

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<v Speaker 1>then on Monday of next week to start the skin

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<v Speaker 1>graft process. The Bubber's had three surgeries and they were

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<v Speaker 1>undertaken on Monday, early procedures revealing that he would most

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<v Speaker 1>likely suffer scars under his neck and chest due to

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<v Speaker 1>the serious burns. But the good news is the firstly

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<v Speaker 1>up and walking, secondly now at home, and thirdly a

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<v Speaker 1>recovery process is going on. I still don't understand how

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<v Speaker 1>or why the person police believe responsible has not been found.

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<v Speaker 1>If you know the image, if you know the information,

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<v Speaker 1>if you know anything, even a week and a bit

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<v Speaker 1>on call Crime Stoppers one one hundred, triple three, triple zero. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the Fox sisters are legends of the paras Olympic Games

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<v Speaker 1>because not one but two of them ended up winning

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<v Speaker 1>gold medals. Between them, the family won at three gold

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<v Speaker 1>medals and they are rock stars. Well, of course, there

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<v Speaker 1>is a facility that was built almost quent five years

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<v Speaker 1>ago for the Sydney Olympic Games for canoeing and kayaking,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the water sports arena that is in Penrith

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<v Speaker 1>on the outskirts of Sydney. They are both from there.

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<v Speaker 1>They are both proud Panthers fans, and today a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the course has now been named after them. It

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<v Speaker 1>will be known as Fox Island.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's very special.

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<v Speaker 3>Something we see every day and the cost Island, say a.

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<v Speaker 4>Lot of island.

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<v Speaker 1>They are cuties. And in terms of the Paralympics, look

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<v Speaker 1>I like you. I love watching them, I really do.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to see what these athletes are able to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the obvious disabilities. People who've got you would imagine

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<v Speaker 1>no capacity to be athletic. Of course, will they outshine

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<v Speaker 1>able bodied people. It's incredible to see what they do.

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<v Speaker 1>And a perfect example of somebody that we've met before

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<v Speaker 1>who was at the Paralympics is Madison do d Rosario.

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<v Speaker 1>My apologies, she's a rockstar. She's going to be competing

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<v Speaker 1>in marathon as well as the fifteen hundred meters. We

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<v Speaker 1>of course met her when we were doing our town

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<v Speaker 1>in bower Galla on the northern beaches of Sydney, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pleased to say that she is now a medal winner.

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<v Speaker 1>She got bronze in one of the three events that

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<v Speaker 1>she is competing in. The one that she hopes to

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<v Speaker 1>go for gold will be in a couple of days time.

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<v Speaker 1>But congratulations, three bits of good news to start the day. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pleased to see that a few people have noticed

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<v Speaker 1>what we told you last night, which was that Giggles Miles,

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Miles, the Queensland Premiere, took an eleven minute flight

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<v Speaker 1>on a private jet paid for by the Queensland taxpayer,

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<v Speaker 1>an eleven minute flight so he could go to an

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<v Speaker 1>MP's birthday and he can announce a brand new school

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<v Speaker 1>fence This is ridiculous. I agree with everything that's been

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<v Speaker 1>said thus far. Now, of course, Stephen Miles, well, as

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<v Speaker 1>always when it comes to labor, you never a minute mistake,

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<v Speaker 1>you double down. You know you're the one with the problem,

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<v Speaker 1>not me. Well that was the game today. At the

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<v Speaker 1>press conference as the Cory mal said that, he defended himself,

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<v Speaker 1>saying he had no regrets about the flight. It is

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<v Speaker 1>an eleven minute flight on a jet, taxpayer funded simply

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<v Speaker 1>because it's an easier way to get around than driving

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<v Speaker 1>on the goat tracks that the Queensland government have let

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<v Speaker 1>become goat tracks.

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<v Speaker 5>So well, look, it might be easy fodder to pick

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<v Speaker 5>one leg of that trip, but taken in its totality,

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<v Speaker 5>I think you'll see that I was very busy and

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<v Speaker 5>it was an appropriate, entirely appropriate.

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<v Speaker 1>Use of travel resources.

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<v Speaker 5>I get that it's easy fodder for tableaux journalists, but

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<v Speaker 5>when you look at the trip in totality, it made sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Please please if he uses tone diff as this after

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<v Speaker 1>what we caught him doing earlier in the year when

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<v Speaker 1>he had a private jet and the Police Commission had

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<v Speaker 1>a private jet to fly from the same place to

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<v Speaker 1>the same place, and he got torched in and around that. Politically,

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<v Speaker 1>you would think that when you look at the itiner

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<v Speaker 1>and you say, wellang I am, we're going from here

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<v Speaker 1>to here's for eleven minutes. I don't know about that, because,

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<v Speaker 1>of course on the plane with him were news reporters,

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<v Speaker 1>so the idea that it was ever going to get out,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, was not to be seen. But the courier

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<v Speaker 1>mal who had the information and put it on their

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<v Speaker 1>newspapers and have gone after him again today well done,

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<v Speaker 1>have got a lot of commenters to their website and

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<v Speaker 1>the letter section of the newspaper, and says, typical of

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<v Speaker 1>this goose. He knows he's cooked, Hence he doesn't give

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<v Speaker 1>a hoot. Ian says, if his goal is to look stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing a first rate job of it. Paul says,

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<v Speaker 1>the arrogance of this bloke shows no bounds. He loves

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<v Speaker 1>splourging other people's money. Now that sounds like something that

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<v Speaker 1>I would have written to the paper, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else called Paul. But it's one hundred percent true.

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<v Speaker 1>And Graham says, this is yet another example of why

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have money for our roads and hospitals. Out

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<v Speaker 1>the door in twenty four oh yet one more, David says, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, guys, it's hardly fair to be critical of

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<v Speaker 1>mister males. Do you realize how long a seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>kilometer trip would take on Queensland roads, with all the

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<v Speaker 1>potholes and acts and delays, he could have taken a day.

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<v Speaker 1>Tongue firmly, of course, planted in cheek. But it is

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<v Speaker 1>yet another example about other people's money and how it

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<v Speaker 1>is spent. Now we know that the Prime Minister has

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<v Speaker 1>got quite a sweet tooth when it comes to this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff about the amount of private travel bouncing around an

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<v Speaker 1>airbus elbow, the brand new plane that's coming, which he

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't possibly have canceled despite the fact that it was

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<v Speaker 1>ordered a couple of years ago, and even as we know,

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<v Speaker 1>nicknames the plane that you and I pay for Toto

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<v Speaker 1>after the dog. Well, today Daily Telegraph had to look

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<v Speaker 1>at some of the money that he's spending on top

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<v Speaker 1>of a bunch of other things that you're already paying for.

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<v Speaker 1>It's three point eight million dollars. Three point eight million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars must be fun to be up the front of

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<v Speaker 1>the bus, or not have a bus, or to have

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<v Speaker 1>your own plane a brand new one. Anthony Alberdezi slugg

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<v Speaker 1>taxpayers one hundred thousand dollars and twelve months for private

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<v Speaker 1>com car bookings. So, by the way, this is on

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<v Speaker 1>top of on top of CEE one plus two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty three thousand dollars for printing in communications his

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<v Speaker 1>staff and he has sixty one of them. Remember a

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<v Speaker 1>significant number of those working in the media department helping

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<v Speaker 1>to fluff the image of this Prime minister was worth

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half billion dollars. The Prime Minister's annual

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<v Speaker 1>three point eight million dollar expenses bill does not include

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<v Speaker 1>his private chartered flights, It does not include his salary

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<v Speaker 1>at six hundred thousand dollars. It does not include the

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<v Speaker 1>wages of his staff, which are estimated to be about

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<v Speaker 1>ten million dollars. Again, comments to the paper that wrote

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<v Speaker 1>about it this morning and has been online all day

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<v Speaker 1>about it, Anthony says, mister Alberinsi talks about the cost

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<v Speaker 1>of living, how Australians are struggling, but neglects to mention

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't include him. Francis, we can't afford a forty

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<v Speaker 1>dollars cab ride, Prime Minister, so out of touch. You

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<v Speaker 1>are also inside this report is the amount of money

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<v Speaker 1>that is being spent by some of the dopes that

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<v Speaker 1>are in Parliament and some of the dullards that are

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<v Speaker 1>in and around this Prime Minister formerly sitting around the

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<v Speaker 1>Cabinet table or the ministry idiot Andrew Giles, the bloke

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<v Speaker 1>who absolutely stuffed up the National security with the response

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<v Speaker 1>to the High Court decision. He spent a million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>on office administration. That's rent bills, printing, stationary software and telecommunications.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Charmers or Grim. Jim had to of course flight

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States. We talked about this trip at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. We now know his five day trip costs

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five thousand dollars. All of these people tell you

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<v Speaker 1>should work from home. All of these people say your

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<v Speaker 1>kids shouldn't go to school during a pandemic. All of

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<v Speaker 1>these people say why not do it on zoom? But

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<v Speaker 1>when it's them Tims and Tim hehs is the Assistant

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<v Speaker 1>Trade Minister. He spent two hundred and fifty eight thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars on international flights. And if you don't remember who

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<v Speaker 1>this bloke is, like most people in Australia, he's the

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<v Speaker 1>one who abused anyone who believes that we should have

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<v Speaker 1>a proper royal commission or real inkoo worry into COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>He basically calls you a conspiracy theory and a lunatic.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a well spring, a sort of fitted wellspring

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<v Speaker 2>of COVID conspiracy theorists, and some of them, some of them,

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<v Speaker 2>some of them in habit the benches over.

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<v Speaker 1>There, classy staff, Oh, we always care about cost of living.

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<v Speaker 1>Quarter of a million dollars flying around the world and

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<v Speaker 1>it's extended to the people that aren't even in the government.

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie Scamps is the Independent or the Teal Party MPO

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<v Speaker 1>should say, oh, of course it's not a party. We

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<v Speaker 1>all just look the same, say the same and fund

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<v Speaker 1>the same. But it's absolutely a community independent. She spent

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and forty six thousand dollars on printing and communications.

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<v Speaker 1>A perfect example of once you elect somebody, they have

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<v Speaker 1>taxpayer funds to market themselves to the electorate. When you

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<v Speaker 1>are not in government, you're able to not have to

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<v Speaker 1>take responsibility for anything. There are more people on the

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<v Speaker 1>cross bench as a result of the potential minority parliament.

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<v Speaker 1>They will all have the ability to do so. And

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<v Speaker 1>why it's so hard to move them on, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>how irrelevant they are or how far the actual reality

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<v Speaker 1>of their time in offices. Remember she didn't even work

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<v Speaker 1>weekends at one point. Is with their rhetoric. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>get to the economy. I know a couple of other

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<v Speaker 1>people have mentioned it in some detail tonight, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is our Bally week, this is what we do.

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<v Speaker 1>This is our line and length, and there's lots of

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<v Speaker 1>numbers I need to get to here. As you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Prime Minister and Jim Chalmers claim that they have

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<v Speaker 1>been pushing the economy in the right direction. Well, as

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the GDP results so that Australia is still

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<v Speaker 1>in a per capita recession. This would be the sixth

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<v Speaker 1>quarter in a row that we have been in a

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<v Speaker 1>per capita recession. That is the best part now of

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen months. The ABC, by the way, actually agrees with

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<v Speaker 1>my worldview when it comes to how bad the situation is,

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<v Speaker 1>because once you take away the Ponzi scheme of immigration,

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<v Speaker 1>the average Australian you and I is in a world

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<v Speaker 1>of trouble.

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<v Speaker 6>There's an argument that it's a dumb way to keep

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<v Speaker 6>yourself out of recession simply by adding more people into

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<v Speaker 6>the economy because it's not a real reflection of your

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<v Speaker 6>economic performance. So if his trip that out, we're gone

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<v Speaker 6>backwards for six consecutive quarters, which is not a great

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<v Speaker 6>performance for the economy.

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<v Speaker 1>Outrageous, unbelievable right to give you an idea of the

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<v Speaker 1>growth rates where we were as rather than roaring, if

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<v Speaker 1>we were a car, we're idling, and you know when

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<v Speaker 1>your car's out of tune, and the idle means that

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<v Speaker 1>you slightly roll forward at the traffic lights. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>been the Australian economy in September of last year zero

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<v Speaker 1>point two percent, in December zero point two percent, March

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<v Speaker 1>zero point one percent, and the statistics released today again

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<v Speaker 1>zero point two percent. The annual rate is now the

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<v Speaker 1>best part of one percent, and that is the worst

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<v Speaker 1>it's been since the recession in nineteen ninety one. In

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<v Speaker 1>a blow of the Albanese government's economic credentials, figures released

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<v Speaker 1>by the Australian Bureau Statistics on Wednesday show the economy

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<v Speaker 1>grew by just zero point two percent in the June

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<v Speaker 1>corter of the annual growth down to one percent last

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<v Speaker 1>financial year. It's the weakest performance by the economy outside

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<v Speaker 1>of COVID since nineteen ninety one's recession. The poor result

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<v Speaker 1>has been driven by households who cut spending by zero

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<v Speaker 1>point two percent in the three months to the end

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<v Speaker 1>of June. They are pulling back on things like food, alcohol, clothing, footwear, cafes, hotels,

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<v Speaker 1>the purchase of new cars. Discretionary spending down one point

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<v Speaker 1>one percent. This, of course, was the treasurer pretending nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do with us. It's happening everywhere around the world.

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<v Speaker 7>This is the inevitable consequence of global economic uncertainty. In

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<v Speaker 7>the context of a really difficult global economic environment, any

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<v Speaker 7>growth in our economy is welcome growth. This is an

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<v Speaker 7>economy being buffeted by global uncertainty.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, the reality is is that if we're being buffeted

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<v Speaker 1>by a global uncertainty, you would imagine that people who

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<v Speaker 1>have economies similar to ours would be in the same

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<v Speaker 1>position as us. But as I showed you last night,

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to inflation, that's not true. But they

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<v Speaker 1>know there's not enough time for that to be mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>in the six pm news. It'll barely make the headlines

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<v Speaker 1>of the clickbait let alone the papers the next day.

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<v Speaker 1>Australia's inflation three point eight percent, the United States two

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<v Speaker 1>point nine, Japan two point eight, Canada two point five,

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<v Speaker 1>the UK two point two. We are almost double that

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<v Speaker 1>of the United Kingdom. And when it comes to growth

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<v Speaker 1>around the world, the most recent quarterly numbers in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States three percent, we're zero point two, Japan, the UK,

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<v Speaker 1>Canada all doing better than us. We are sputtering along

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<v Speaker 1>and the only reason we are above water is of

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<v Speaker 1>course because of the amount of government spending that goes

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<v Speaker 1>into state based projects and the amount of pay rises

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<v Speaker 1>being given to the public sector, as well as the

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<v Speaker 1>number of people that are being bust into the country.

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<v Speaker 1>All of that means they can say, oh, we've technically

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<v Speaker 1>avoided a recession, but the per capita recession, the one

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<v Speaker 1>you and I are living in a quarter is three months.

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<v Speaker 1>Six of those quarters now the best part of as

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<v Speaker 1>I say, eighteen months, we have been in a recession.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, the japan number this is after their

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<v Speaker 1>country had come out of a recession. So what exactly

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<v Speaker 1>is the excuse for Australia will debate that in a

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<v Speaker 1>moment or two's time, very much looking forward to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now interesting little bit of politics is playing right now

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<v Speaker 1>around tax agents. Now, as you know, two ways that

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<v Speaker 1>you do your tax One is that you prepare your

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<v Speaker 1>own turn. And remember that was sort of big even

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<v Speaker 1>a few years ago. You know, you stack pack or

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<v Speaker 1>tax pack or whatever it is to be called. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, there's a whole bunch of people who can

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<v Speaker 1>do it for themselves online, or you go to an accountant.

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<v Speaker 1>You go to somebody who will you give them all

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<v Speaker 1>the receipts. They work out what's possible, what's not possible.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a look, you make sure everything's above board,

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<v Speaker 1>you sign, and away we go. Where there may will

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<v Speaker 1>be a change in a relationship between the accountant and

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<v Speaker 1>you and the accountant rather than being the person who

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<v Speaker 1>helps you get the largest possible tax return that you

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<v Speaker 1>are entitled to under the law, not suggesting anything other

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<v Speaker 1>than that, but what you are entitled to under the law,

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<v Speaker 1>will they now move from being the person who's on

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<v Speaker 1>your side to the one on the side of the

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<v Speaker 1>tax department and may well end up having to play

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<v Speaker 1>the role of being a tax cop. Tax agents could

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<v Speaker 1>be forced to dob in clients for any misleading tax

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<v Speaker 1>statements and reveal personal mental health in from about themselves

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<v Speaker 1>to clients. Under new reforms which are planned by the

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<v Speaker 1>Albanezy government. Under a rafter changes to the tax sector,

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<v Speaker 1>tax agents will be required to act as compliance officers,

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<v Speaker 1>so again not helping you get as much back as

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<v Speaker 1>you can legally, but helping the tax offers take as

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<v Speaker 1>much as possible. The agents would also be required to

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<v Speaker 1>advise all current and prospective clients of any matter that

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<v Speaker 1>could significantly influence a client's decision to hire them. The

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<v Speaker 1>Chartered accountants say, well, hang on, what if I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a mental health issue? Would I have to declare that

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<v Speaker 1>to my client? And therefore the client would know that

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<v Speaker 1>I had a mental health issue and they may well

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<v Speaker 1>run the other way, which I think would actually be discriminatory.

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<v Speaker 1>But still this is what may will be being put

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<v Speaker 1>into the system. Furious Chartered Accounts have written an Assistant

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<v Speaker 1>Treasurer with independent legal advice that shows broad new requirements

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<v Speaker 1>could extend to mental health condition. Whose side are they

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<v Speaker 1>on and by that I mean the government. It's always

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<v Speaker 1>on their side, not on yours. It's already your money.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the vast majority of people pay it through their

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<v Speaker 1>employer in the pay as you go system. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>that is the single largest source of revenue for the

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<v Speaker 1>federal government. It's not the GST. It's not company tax

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<v Speaker 1>it's not smoking taxes, it's not taxes on mining. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the employees paying their tax. Now we will debate tonight

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting topic. It is one of the Greens have

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<v Speaker 1>tried to own for a while. But I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a great opportunity here for everyone to think of how

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, and that is going to the dentist. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on your lifestyle, you may well rarely go, will

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<v Speaker 1>you go as frequently as I do? And I've got

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<v Speaker 1>to say a big shout out to my dentist. Wonderful, amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>great management of pain. In fact, even fall asleep sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>while they are bashing away with mutum, which is probably

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<v Speaker 1>a sign of morbid obesity. But anyway, I digress. A

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of labor in peace have come forward today to

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<v Speaker 1>suggest that Medicare should have more dental involved in it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that there should be a better taxpayer funded system

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<v Speaker 1>in and around dental care. We'll debate it tonight, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what my position is. I agree. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that the NDIS, once introduced, has blown out

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<v Speaker 1>now to tens of billions of dollars in a giant

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<v Speaker 1>black hole. But I also know that there's an awful

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people who put off going to the dentist

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<v Speaker 1>because they can't afford it. We have to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that there is a properly funded dental scheme because, as

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what may be problems in your mouth ends

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<v Speaker 1>up going into other parts of your body, and worst

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<v Speaker 1>case scenario, the worst possible consequences. If we have a system,

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<v Speaker 1>a better system, well we'll debate it all in a

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<v Speaker 1>moment or two time. Also back to Queensa now for

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<v Speaker 1>another example about other people's money and how it is spent.

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<v Speaker 1>You may remember the former Deputy Premier Jackie Tradd. Now

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<v Speaker 1>she was of course a threat to Palachet, so she

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<v Speaker 1>was slowly but surely pushed out the side door, and

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to idiotic preference deals where the Liberal Party decided

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<v Speaker 1>to give preferences to the Greens, her seat has now

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<v Speaker 1>been replaced in Central Brisbane with a Greens MP. The

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<v Speaker 1>idea of the Libs backing in the Greens is as

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<v Speaker 1>dumb as Labor backing in the Teals, both of them

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<v Speaker 1>setting themselves up for huge disasters. But you may remember

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<v Speaker 1>that there was a matter that went before the Crime

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<v Speaker 1>and Corruption Commission surrounding mus trad Now she was absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>cleared of any wrongdoing, any illegality. This was a good report.

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<v Speaker 1>But for some reason, Jackie Tradd and the Queensland government

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<v Speaker 1>has spent more than three hundred thousand dollars trying to

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<v Speaker 1>stop the release of the report into a politician who

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been in the parliament at all this term. Three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars. Now, remember that's a premier ago, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of deputy premiers ago. Why do they hide this stuff? Again?

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<v Speaker 1>It was a good report, a good report, but a

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<v Speaker 1>good report that they don't want you to see. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make any sense, does it. And massive news out

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States today, there's nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and Harris. A Chinese spy had been working for

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<v Speaker 1>the Governor of New York and had been doing so

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<v Speaker 1>for many, many years. The money that came via the

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<v Speaker 1>kickbacks of the Chinese went into a mansion in a

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<v Speaker 1>regional part of New York, plus ferraris and even some

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<v Speaker 1>free salted duck. Here is also what was happening in

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<v Speaker 1>exchange for the money. According to the authorities. The news

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<v Speaker 1>source the American version of the ABC.

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<v Speaker 8>Worked for former Governor Andrew Cuomo and his successor, Governor

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<v Speaker 8>Kathy Hokeel for more than a decade and never disclosed

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<v Speaker 8>any benefits she received. Instead, prosecutors say she acted as

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<v Speaker 8>an undisclosed agent of China, allegedly blocking representatives of the

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<v Speaker 8>Taiwanese government from having access to the New York State

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<v Speaker 8>Governor's office and changing the governor's messaging regarding issues of

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<v Speaker 8>importance to the Chinese. Sun traveled to China, as seen

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<v Speaker 8>in this photo included in the indictment, where prosecutors say

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<v Speaker 8>she met with officials from the Chinese Communist Party.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing to see here now to the rice between Trump

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<v Speaker 1>and Harris. Now, I wanted to do something while there

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<v Speaker 1>is this little bit of a lull, which is to

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<v Speaker 1>explain how much happens between today and election day, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the first Tuesday in November Melbourne Cup Day here

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia, but in the United States it is the

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<v Speaker 1>fifth of November. Now, there are a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>that happen, and that means that where the rice is

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<v Speaker 1>to die matters now. Right now there are predictions that

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<v Speaker 1>he's Trump's path to two seventy here's her path to

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<v Speaker 1>two seventy. It's always tight. And again I can show

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<v Speaker 1>you a bunch of poles, it will tell you it's

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<v Speaker 1>Trump in front by a bit, or it's Harris in

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<v Speaker 1>front by a bit. But it matters about just how

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<v Speaker 1>few days there are left to change people's minds. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about the two months between now an

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<v Speaker 1>election day. In fact, can we bring up here the

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<v Speaker 1>calendar of how many things happen between right now and

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<v Speaker 1>the fifth of November, being the election day next week

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<v Speaker 1>the most likely only debate between Trump and Harris. About

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<v Speaker 1>a week later, Trump is then sentenced in New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>What would happen to the race if he's sent to

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<v Speaker 1>jail for thirty days? What would happen to the race

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<v Speaker 1>if he is able to walk away from it all?

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<v Speaker 1>We'll all see. As early as September twenty early voting

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<v Speaker 1>starts in many states. On September the twenty sixth, Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is back in court where he is trying to appeal

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<v Speaker 1>against a five hundred million dollar fine that was put

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<v Speaker 1>in place by the people going after him in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>On October the I that is the vice presidential debate,

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<v Speaker 1>and there looks like there is a full month of

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<v Speaker 1>nothing happening between October the first and November fifth, but

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<v Speaker 1>not entirely so. In fact, as early as this week,

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<v Speaker 1>people will start getting ballots in the mail and they

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<v Speaker 1>will be able to return them well and truly before

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<v Speaker 1>election day. Now under the rules that when Nancy Pelosi

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<v Speaker 1>and the Democrats were in charge of the House of Representatives,

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<v Speaker 1>they made sure that all of the rules in and

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<v Speaker 1>around how the election works during the COVID times now

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<v Speaker 1>become standard in all fifty states now, the seven states

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<v Speaker 1>that will decide the election. In North Carolina they vote

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<v Speaker 1>this week, voting this week. So again, if Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>up right now, but Harris comes up in time for

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<v Speaker 1>the election, well will people be voting on the assumption

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<v Speaker 1>of Trump winning or Harris winning? About again a week later.

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<v Speaker 1>The state that matters Pennsylvania, then Wisconsin, Michigan. In October

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<v Speaker 1>you get Georgia and Arizona. And then if we happen

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<v Speaker 1>to be in one of those statistical things that I've

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<v Speaker 1>shown you before, if he wins here and she wins

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<v Speaker 1>there and carry the one and the state of Nevada

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<v Speaker 1>will matter more than any others it could have the

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<v Speaker 1>possible ability to put either of them above two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and seventy. Well, obviously they are a couple of hours

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<v Speaker 1>behind the polls closing, so it will become very late

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<v Speaker 1>in the night, if not early in the morning in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, which will be almost like a full

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<v Speaker 1>day since the election had started for us watching here

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia, but in Nevada that don't actually have elections

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<v Speaker 1>like we would assume, where you go to a polling

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<v Speaker 1>places fill out the ballot instead everyone in the state

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<v Speaker 1>and the only way to vote in the state is

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<v Speaker 1>to get your ballot by mail. So there is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to happen that we know about. Let alone the

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<v Speaker 1>October surprise. Let alone what we don't know about. Let

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<v Speaker 1>alone what they say, lettle a bone, what they do,

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<v Speaker 1>Which is why I hope you join us every night

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<v Speaker 1>between now and that election, because I'll only tell you

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff that matters, but I'll always give you just

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more information than everyone else, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can pass yourself off as yeah, I know everything that's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in the States. So that's my favorite to you,

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<v Speaker 1>your favor to me. Keep watching every night, be here

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<v Speaker 1>in the front row, nine o'clock Eastern in Paul Murray

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<v Speaker 1>Life quick break back with more lots to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>here none other than rom a Bushop carry out a

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<v Speaker 1>Champ takes on Stephen Conroy, the forever challenger who's here

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:49.159
<v Speaker 1>to help. That's next Meghan Kelly in a moment or

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<v Speaker 1>two from the US as well. I made sure that

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<v Speaker 1>I wrap it up quickly at the start of the

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<v Speaker 1>show because I wanted to give even more time to

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<v Speaker 1>the people who I know you love seeing go the

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<v Speaker 1>full ding dong. They do so again this evening, none

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<v Speaker 1>other than the carry out Champ, Bromwan Bishop of course,

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<v Speaker 1>former Speaker of the House, the man who's the former

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<v Speaker 1>Communications Minister, send it up but always just here to help,

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<v Speaker 1>none other than the wonderful Stephen Conroy. Now, I am

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<v Speaker 1>not going to pretend that the story that we heard

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<v Speaker 1>about a cabinet discussion about the what isn't in the

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<v Speaker 1>senses is a big story. But I am going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about one thing, which is I've been around long

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<v Speaker 1>enough that once you start to hear leaks from cabinet,

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<v Speaker 1>something's going wrong. Now some people have told me, well

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<v Speaker 1>a story clearly that is favorable to the Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 1>That is leaked from cabinet was really clearly something that

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<v Speaker 1>he approved of. It's a different way of doing a

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<v Speaker 1>press release, but very obviously the way that all of

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<v Speaker 1>this was packaged up in the papers today was that

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<v Speaker 1>someone was telling the newspapers what was being said around

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<v Speaker 1>the cabinet table. Now, Steve, and I'll start with you. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>the nature of the leak is positive to the Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously the issue is one that we've discussed before. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's all imagine things were as they appeared by it

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<v Speaker 1>from a journalists perspective, was that this was a leak

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<v Speaker 1>from the cabinet table. You would surely agree with me that,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of whether it was Team Red, Team Blue, or

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<v Speaker 1>any government in our history. As soon as we start

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<v Speaker 1>to know what's going on in and around the cabinet table,

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<v Speaker 1>something's going on.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I think, as you said, it wouldn't matter who

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<v Speaker 9>was in government, and both Promin and I have been

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<v Speaker 9>in the ministry and cabinets. When you start reading multiple

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<v Speaker 9>sources being quoted and giving accurate descriptions, it's not in

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<v Speaker 9>the spirit of cabinet solidarity. So I think that you

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<v Speaker 9>know the fact that this isn't the absolute first has

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<v Speaker 9>been one or two minor in but certainly this is

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<v Speaker 9>the biggest. It's not, you know, earth shattering, as you've said,

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<v Speaker 9>it's sort of on a relatively small issue given the

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<v Speaker 9>other issues that are impacted in the Australian public. But

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<v Speaker 9>it's it is very untidy when you start to see

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<v Speaker 9>and read commentary that takes place in cabinet. And I'm

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<v Speaker 9>sure even Bromwinnen would agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and this is the point problem where I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I both if you know, right, the way it's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to work is the cabinet is the place where you

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<v Speaker 1>can speak as freely as possible as a collective group

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<v Speaker 1>to work out which what decision you're going to take.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you're all bound by whatever the majority of the

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<v Speaker 1>room is and you all go out and argue it

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<v Speaker 1>to the hilt. Right if there is someone saying what's

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<v Speaker 1>being said during what would otherwise be sort of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like any meeting anyone has in their office that it's

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<v Speaker 1>a planning meeting or a decision meeting, well then you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a problem with your business. And this is a

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<v Speaker 1>I think the beginning of a significant problem for Anthony Obernezi.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not he is about to be rolled as prime minister.

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<v Speaker 1>Any garbage that in the next But let's be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>every pole says that he's underwater when it comes to

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 1>his own popularity. They're at fifty to fifty in two

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>party preferred, they're behind in primary vote and as we'll

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 1>get to a second in the economy, there's not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot that's going their way at the moment. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I lead with this tonight.

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<v Speaker 10>What do you think, Well, whenever a cabinet starts to leak,

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<v Speaker 10>it's trouble. And the idea that a prime minister would

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<v Speaker 10>authorize someone to leak from cabinet is crazy stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I should say that's the best possible spinnoker. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>One of the telltale lines was when somebody said he

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<v Speaker 10>spoke about it in cabinet, talking about the prime minister

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<v Speaker 10>and then said it was far and broomstone. That indicates

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<v Speaker 10>he was rattled, right, And that's the impression that statement gives.

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<v Speaker 1>Because in that room you're not supposed to get fired up.

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 1>You're supposed to have these logical back and forth, or

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 1>in that room you do fire.

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<v Speaker 10>Up, you're certainly not supposed to have it reported outside

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<v Speaker 10>that because you are seating with anger or whatever. But

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<v Speaker 10>whenever a cabinet starts to leak, it's trouble. And the

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<v Speaker 10>next sign is when the public service starts to leak,

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<v Speaker 10>that is more trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they've just got their biggest pay rise in ten years,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think there's a hope that they won't at

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<v Speaker 1>anytime soon. But you're very right, And of course the

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 1>way that that works is that again you tell me

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm in the wrong zone here, guys. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>imagining that when you've got a problem, you ask the

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<v Speaker 1>public servants to come up with the solutions. There's the

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 1>sandwich that's really rotten, there's the sandwich that is not

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<v Speaker 1>really a sandwich, and then you've presented with the moderate

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 1>option in the middle. But of course, if for whatever reason,

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you start to be saying to your people, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to go for this sandwich you don't want, then

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly questions start turning up, minister, is it not true

0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 1>that you have been offered one of three sandwiches, one

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 1>sam which is particularly bad, And then that's what becomes

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<v Speaker 1>the question time game for the next of the while.

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<v Speaker 1>So that would be the example of the public service

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 1>leaking correct, good, All right, Now let's talk about the

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>economy here. It ain't good. It ain't good, And the

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<v Speaker 1>Treasurer is sort of saying, oh, it's all global, when

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<v Speaker 1>I just showed the numbers of it, how similar things

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>are going around the world. Again, we are part of

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 1>a wider system, but we were with the last mob.

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 1>But everything was so personal in relation to the last mob.

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<v Speaker 1>So the same rule will be applied in this case.

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<v Speaker 1>But what does today's number show when again even on

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<v Speaker 1>the ABC, they are saying, the only reason the car

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<v Speaker 1>is idling at the lights and slightly rolling forward is

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<v Speaker 1>because of the number of people we're trying to shove

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<v Speaker 1>on the back seat.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, the really worrying thing is and Chalmers comes out

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<v Speaker 10>and says, the only reason there was any growth is

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<v Speaker 10>because of government spending. What that means is it is

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<v Speaker 10>sucking success out of the private sector. It's sucking the

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<v Speaker 10>ability of the private sector to attract people that it

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<v Speaker 10>needs to survive in this very difficult time. And so

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<v Speaker 10>the economy is very largely out of balance. Now, the

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<v Speaker 10>RBA doesn't care about that spending and spending, but if

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<v Speaker 10>you look at the figures and you see the imbalance

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<v Speaker 10>where so many of the new jobs created are either

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<v Speaker 10>in the public sector or dependent on the government spending

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<v Speaker 10>like the NDAs. So it really is a big concern.

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<v Speaker 10>And this is a figure we haven't seen since nineteen

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<v Speaker 10>ninety one. I remember what it was like when we

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<v Speaker 10>had the recession we had to have. And I've got

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 10>to tell you, mister Chalmers, ain't no mister Keating.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and remember the doctor bid is not a doctor

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>of economics, doctor of political communication.

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<v Speaker 10>He might have written PhD thesis on Keating. There is

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<v Speaker 10>no comparison. When riche said to me the other day

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<v Speaker 10>in conversation, he really does need more enemies, doesn't he?

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:12.879
<v Speaker 10>It says a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, give me an idea here, Stephen. Again, we

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 1>know where where we are. No doubt you will say

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>it's not as bad as I may will present it.

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 1>But it's pretty obvious that when they say global, global, global,

0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and then you go and have a look at what

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<v Speaker 1>the inflation rate is in those places and the growth

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<v Speaker 1>rate in those places, and if all of them are

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<v Speaker 1>doing better than us, then we're running kind of towards

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<v Speaker 1>the back end of the global economy, aren't we.

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<v Speaker 9>Look, Paul, your views have heard me extensively on the

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 9>appalling Reserve Bank performance over the last number of years.

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:55.720
<v Speaker 9>They pushed interest rates to high after promising they wouldn't

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 9>put them up, and now they're being pigheaded in refusing

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 9>to a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of them.

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<v Speaker 9>They have ground this economy to an almost halt. And

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<v Speaker 9>I'm sorry, Paul, but you know GDP is measured C consumption, consumers, I,

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:19.360
<v Speaker 9>investment G governments. That equals GDP. That's one O one economics.

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 9>So the governments are part of what creates GDP growth

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 9>or contraction. And if the government didn't have the sort

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 9>of spending that it's got at the moment, the Reserve

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 9>Bank would have successfully destroyed this economy. Those are the

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 9>simple facts. It's maths, it's statistics, it's whatever you want

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:46.279
<v Speaker 9>to call it. And to borrow from Bromwyn, the s

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 9>Romen just just go read a first year textbook, Okay,

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 9>to borrow if they've actually they've actually sucked the life

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:01.800
<v Speaker 9>out of the private sector. Deserve bank so okay, So

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:04.399
<v Speaker 9>he's killing this economy and.

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:06.399
<v Speaker 1>We're in a per capita recession. We have been now

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:08.719
<v Speaker 1>for the best part of eighteen months. The Reserve Bank,

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 1>by keeping the interest rates makes all of that harder

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 1>that the individual is going backwards on all of those

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:17.920
<v Speaker 1>fronts that we've just talked about. So what is the

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:22.880
<v Speaker 1>solution here about? Because the Reserve Bank has made it

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 1>clear they're not touching anything till at least next year,

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 1>which means we all stay in this in this very

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 1>pressured spot.

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<v Speaker 10>Look, the Treasurer has a lot of words. It's very

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 10>good on adjectives and adverbs, not too good on nouns.

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 10>But one word that he leaves out all the time

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 10>is productivity. Yes, never mentions it. That's what we desperately

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 10>need now.

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:49.960
<v Speaker 9>He is a government zero productivity zero. You don't get

0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 9>to play the car.

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 10>He has been just done it very very provocative in

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 10>the words he's used about the Reserve Bank. There's obviously

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 10>a brawl on this should be and today and today

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 10>he had the absolutely insulting term to describe John Hard

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 10>as being rolled out. What an insulting term, buddy respects him?

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 10>Of course, of course John Hard would know more about

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 10>these issues than in his little finger and the current

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 10>Treasurer know and to be so disrespectful in that manner

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 10>really made me and a lot of other people very angry.

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Well in fact I have that comment. Let's roll the tape. Well,

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>none team press play.

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<v Speaker 7>We need to remember, of course, John Howard is a

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 7>liberal warrior. He's not exactly an objective observer. He's a

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 7>partisan warrior, and that's fine. But if he was an

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:44.719
<v Speaker 7>objective observer, he'd acknowledge that we have turned two big

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 7>liberal deficits into two big labor surpluses.

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 1>And your own intergeneration reports your deficit every year every years.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, where is the where is the common sense

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 10>in what he says? He says, Oh, look, I've got

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 10>these two great surpluses. What about the stuff that's off budget? Yeah,

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.760
<v Speaker 10>well we're given away here, have a couple of hundred

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 10>millionaire for a hundred millionaire because it just gets given

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:08.840
<v Speaker 10>away like it doesn't exist.

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Correct, All right, now, let's get to well, something that

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 1>is completely unrelated to the problems we're at right now,

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 1>but just about a general issue which may will be

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 1>an awful lot more spinning to come into the future.

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't hate the idea of medicare for dental I

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>know it's tens of billions of dollars and I don't

0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 1>know where it comes from, and I don't know how

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:31.799
<v Speaker 1>that works. But as a system we know that one

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<v Speaker 1>of the good things about the public health system means

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<v Speaker 1>that eventually, if you seek someone's going to be taken

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<v Speaker 1>care of. But of course things with dental, yes, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a very small program and the most extreme, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not something that you would say the working poor would

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<v Speaker 1>be turning to with the same frequency that they would

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<v Speaker 1>a public hospital or bulk billing of a GP. So bromin,

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<v Speaker 1>why am I crazy to even talk about a bigger,

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<v Speaker 1>better system for people to be able to take care

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<v Speaker 1>of their teeth, whatever rage they are, that is better

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<v Speaker 1>than what's currently on offer.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, one of the problems is, Paul, and you said

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<v Speaker 10>it right from the beginning. It's mathematical. Where is the

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<v Speaker 10>money coming from? Even Whitlam decided not to put it in.

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.600
<v Speaker 10>It's a separate profession, which is why it didn't go

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<v Speaker 10>in under the doctor category.

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<v Speaker 1>And they say, if we go to full medicare dental,

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:33.439
<v Speaker 1>you need twenty thousand dentists and it cost forty five

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 1>billion dollars and that of course can't be done with

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<v Speaker 1>a little optic in the medicare.

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<v Speaker 10>We've seen what happened with the ndis.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, absolutely correct.

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<v Speaker 10>We have an enormous problem. Yes, we have to look

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 10>after people, and I think we could have a few

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:56.239
<v Speaker 10>good programs about dental hygiene and dental care, looking after

0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 10>your teeth more.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, get ready for some people to flip their tables somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Government really wants it. They've got three hundred billion dollars

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 1>for submarines that will arrive sometime in the next four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years. But give us an idea against Stephen? Am

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I off with the fairies? Am I down in the

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<v Speaker 1>lefty garden? Have I accidentally drunken the kool aid?

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<v Speaker 5>Or?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I just I just think about that working poor section.

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<v Speaker 1>Those people that we know right now are making the choices.

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<v Speaker 9>Paul, you're dead right. In a perfect world, yes would

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<v Speaker 9>be part of and labor has at various stages proposed

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:36.800
<v Speaker 9>concepts like this. But I have it both ways. You can't.

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 9>You can't spend twenty five minutes of your program attacking

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:45.840
<v Speaker 9>the government for overspending and then advocate forty five million

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:47.799
<v Speaker 9>dollars worth of spending. Go I don't know where the

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<v Speaker 9>money comes from. As an it's an increase in the

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<v Speaker 9>Medicare levee. All of all of the ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>Out a little bit of the transcript.

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<v Speaker 9>But okay, they're all worthy, but you can't actually criticize

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:07.359
<v Speaker 9>the government spending. The advocate the next biggest program since

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<v Speaker 9>the ndis well no.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I am saying, though, is that it's all

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<v Speaker 1>about priorities. They get, they've got more money than ever before.

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 1>My suggestion is that there are other priorities, and in

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<v Speaker 1>the current pie, I would consider trying to find out

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:22.400
<v Speaker 1>how to expand that system. All right, That's what's my advocacy.

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 1>And I think that there's a little bit of waste

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:25.840
<v Speaker 1>that you might be able to cut out of that pie.

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 1>And as the tubby man, I get the final say

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<v Speaker 1>on pie. All right, thank you very much. I appreciate it.

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:33.399
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Brobwan, thank you Steven. Meghan Kelly. Straight after

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the break, can you know what you think about that

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 1>or any other issue? Sent me in my Paul. It's

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<v Speaker 1>guy news dot com, do au. It's all good hearted,

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 1>it's all good fun. More on a second. Our favorite

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 1>time of the week is when we talk to Meghan Kelly.

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:48.720
<v Speaker 1>She's in the United States and we're talking an awful

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:50.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of politics because there's a lot of it around.

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Love it to see a rock star.

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 4>Great to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>So about a week's time, we will be right on

0:41:56.960 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 1>top of what is supposed to be the Trump Paras debate.

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:05.239
<v Speaker 1>They say it's locked, but then it seems like it's not.

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:07.879
<v Speaker 1>I think it's about microphones. I think it's about whether

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Harris can bring paper notes with her. What do you

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:13.240
<v Speaker 1>think it wake out from when they're supposed to debate.

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 4>It's just such nonsense.

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:18.399
<v Speaker 3>They're going to do it. They're going to debate. Well,

0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 3>it's too tight a race not to do it. Both

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 3>sides think that they can win, that they can beat

0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:25.920
<v Speaker 3>the other one. So I guess we're just going to

0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 3>have these, like I don't know, pissing contest between now

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 3>and then about Mike's or notes or what have you.

0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 4>The notes thing is absolutely absurd.

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:36.040
<v Speaker 3>Technically, she's already been denied the ability to bring notes

0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:36.399
<v Speaker 3>on there.

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 4>The test is easier if it's open book. We all

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:43.320
<v Speaker 4>know that. But she's running to be president.

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:46.240
<v Speaker 3>She's going to have to be faciled with policy without

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 3>her little notepad next door at all times. So I

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 3>don't think she's going to be allowed to bring notes in.

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 3>I actually think Trump will throw down over that one.

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:55.120
<v Speaker 3>And the mic thing is just a reason to keep

0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:59.440
<v Speaker 3>attention going. Trump loves to have drama around these debates,

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:01.759
<v Speaker 3>so I think that's why he's continuing it.

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:04.839
<v Speaker 1>Harris of course thinks that one of the ways she's

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:07.719
<v Speaker 1>going to get through the next little while is by

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:10.880
<v Speaker 1>doing a bus tour. Now, fascinating here about the logic

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:13.359
<v Speaker 1>of the bus tour. Now, anyone who remembers twenty years

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 1>ago the Straight Talk Express and a bus tour that

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:20.640
<v Speaker 1>John McCain took across the country, that's not what she's doing.

0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 1>What she's doing is, yes, getting on a bus, but

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 1>it goes from small venue to small venue to small venue.

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:29.440
<v Speaker 1>When I see this stuff, I don't see interactions with people.

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I see this as proof of life, but making sure

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:35.399
<v Speaker 1>that the risk is nonexistent. What do you think?

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:37.640
<v Speaker 4>I think that's smart.

0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 3>And if she were my candidate, that's exactly what I'd

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:42.000
<v Speaker 3>be doing. I mean, you saw her in that interview

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:46.280
<v Speaker 3>with CNN. She is not good on her feet. She's

0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 3>not fascial, she really isn't. She doesn't really know her facts,

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:52.799
<v Speaker 3>She lies, she meanders. I joked the other day on

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:54.879
<v Speaker 3>my show that she went from being this person who

0:43:54.880 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 3>seems drunk all the time to seeing Aslia hungover. It

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 3>was very humbling. It's very humbling when my niece saw me.

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:08.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's no in between. The real Kamala, I think,

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:10.759
<v Speaker 3>is the cackling Kamala. And so they've given her some

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 3>sort of a depressant I think, to dig rid of

0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:15.239
<v Speaker 3>the cackle because they realize how off putting it is.

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:17.360
<v Speaker 4>They tried to rebrand it as bratt.

0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:19.560
<v Speaker 3>Maybe that worked with some twenty year olds, but no

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:22.799
<v Speaker 3>sober fifty year old things. It's bratt, nor do they

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 3>even know what brad is. So now they've tried to

0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 3>do sober Kamala. She's just depressed and kind of sad

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:30.600
<v Speaker 3>all the time, which undermines their joyful message. But they

0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:33.759
<v Speaker 3>got to choose which one they want, and they put

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 3>the money down on sober Kamala because that's that's how

0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:38.040
<v Speaker 3>she came out with CNN. So that's what I guess

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 3>she's going to be on the campaign trail now. She's

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 3>going to be the serious sober one we can trust

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 3>to what pull us out of Afghanistan without any deaths

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:48.280
<v Speaker 3>of troops, just as Joe Biden nobody died. Like that's

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:51.799
<v Speaker 3>a position they're in and I just don't think that's inspirational.

0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:54.200
<v Speaker 3>And you see Trump, what does he do, Yes, he

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:56.160
<v Speaker 3>does the rallies. We've talked about all those, but he

0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:58.320
<v Speaker 3>does these stops where he goes into like a seven eleven,

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:01.720
<v Speaker 3>or he goes into some random restaurant or some donut

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:05.359
<v Speaker 3>shop or what have you. And the people love him

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:08.520
<v Speaker 3>because the thing about Trump is, unless you're a diehard Democrat,

0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:12.239
<v Speaker 3>he's very charming, and you will find him charming, and

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 3>he will smile at you, and he will what was

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 3>the Jane Austen line, you will smile and make love

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:21.399
<v Speaker 3>to us. All That's kind of how he approaches any

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:25.800
<v Speaker 3>interaction and people feel it. So Kama Harris doesn't have

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:27.879
<v Speaker 3>the ability to do that. So I think they're absolutely right.

0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Keep her in tight controlled settings on prompter, keep it quick,

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 3>don't give her a chance to meander or cackle, and

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 3>let's see if we can keep that rolling for two

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:37.360
<v Speaker 3>months right into the presidency.

0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Now at the very heart of the thresholds at which

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:47.120
<v Speaker 1>different candidates are held. Two stories involving the military. I've

0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:52.319
<v Speaker 1>walked everyone through in laborious daytile the laws that we're

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:55.879
<v Speaker 1>told about what happened when Donald Trump was invited by

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 1>some of the families of the thirteen who died in

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Afghani Stan. And you have done phenomenal work showing that

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:09.239
<v Speaker 1>people who served with Tim Waltz that when he decided

0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 1>to pull the pin run for Congress rather than laid

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 1>them into battle. One story goes for a week, and

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:21.440
<v Speaker 1>even as as well researched multiple people, multiple sources sitting

0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:24.680
<v Speaker 1>in front of a camera, the media will choose to ignore.

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:29.239
<v Speaker 3>But that story at Arlington is the Democrats stepping on

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:33.680
<v Speaker 3>a rake. I mean that what a stupid, stupid thing

0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 3>for them to try to make an issue out of right,

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 3>given how vulnerable she is on the issue of veterans

0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:41.120
<v Speaker 3>and the military.

0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:44.120
<v Speaker 4>Like this was just absolute folly by her team.

0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:45.920
<v Speaker 3>It should have been a two day story that they

0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 3>put on other people like Surrogate's not having to do

0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:50.919
<v Speaker 3>with her, but she weighed in directly and now she's

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:53.279
<v Speaker 3>getting the rake right in her face as she ought to,

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:57.279
<v Speaker 3>since she hasn't given them any sort of dignity or

0:46:57.320 --> 0:47:00.960
<v Speaker 3>respectful goodbye or even paid her respect any meaningful way

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:03.400
<v Speaker 3>to the families. And they were ready for this, So

0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:06.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, the media is one hundred percent on her side.

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:08.719
<v Speaker 3>So I guess from that standpoint, they took a calculated

0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 3>risk that the media would run cover for her, which

0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 3>it is. But I really think this is a net

0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:16.440
<v Speaker 3>negative story for Kamala Harris. It's only brought back into

0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:18.920
<v Speaker 3>the forefront the fact that she doesn't give two figs

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:23.279
<v Speaker 3>about the thirteen service servicemen and women who died at

0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:26.279
<v Speaker 3>Abbey Gate, and she wasn't at the dignified transfer, she

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:28.960
<v Speaker 3>didn't show up at Arlington. Trump's been there. Trump was

0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:31.239
<v Speaker 3>there at Arlington, and he was there beforehand. He's met

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:35.120
<v Speaker 3>with the families now for years and paid his respects

0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 3>over and over and over, giving them unlimited time. We

0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:39.120
<v Speaker 3>heard that from one of the families at his convention.

0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:42.360
<v Speaker 3>So in any event, there's that story, the thing about

0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 3>the Walls and his stolen valor.

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:45.120
<v Speaker 4>It's not going away.

0:47:45.520 --> 0:47:47.239
<v Speaker 3>And so you're right, the media will ignore the fact

0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:50.399
<v Speaker 3>that these four men, two of whom actually do hold

0:47:50.400 --> 0:47:53.400
<v Speaker 3>the rank of retired command sergeant major, which is as

0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:56.800
<v Speaker 3>high as you can get in the non commissioned officer front.

0:47:57.760 --> 0:48:00.320
<v Speaker 3>Came out to say he's a coward. Tim wall is

0:48:00.360 --> 0:48:03.680
<v Speaker 3>a coward who cut and ran and abandoned his men,

0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 3>and that he's been doing this stolen valor when it

0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:08.560
<v Speaker 3>comes to his rank, when it comes to his story

0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:11.520
<v Speaker 3>about why he didn't go to Iraq, and when it

0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:13.919
<v Speaker 3>comes to whether he served it in actually in war,

0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:17.040
<v Speaker 3>whether it was Afghanistan or Iraq, for years, and that

0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:19.720
<v Speaker 3>these military guys have been going to him privately, behind

0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:23.319
<v Speaker 3>the scenes to say, please stop. You're embarrassing yourself and

0:48:23.360 --> 0:48:26.279
<v Speaker 3>you're disrespecting us, and he wouldn't do it. So the

0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 3>medium will try to ignore that story, but I just

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:32.040
<v Speaker 3>think it has legs and that the independents who are

0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:34.840
<v Speaker 3>in these critical swing states are going to see the

0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 3>clips that were on my show. These guys have been

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 3>out there, some of them individually, the clips that have

0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:42.640
<v Speaker 3>been out there, and they know there's something about Tim

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:46.920
<v Speaker 3>Walls that's disrespectful, dishonorable when it comes to the military.

0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:49.480
<v Speaker 4>And that's a problem Tim Walls.

0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:52.359
<v Speaker 3>It's basically handicapped him from being able to tout his

0:48:52.400 --> 0:48:55.680
<v Speaker 3>military record on the stump. And that's a problem for

0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:59.200
<v Speaker 3>him because JD. Vans can still do that. And the

0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:04.640
<v Speaker 3>American people still hold Afghanistan against this administration. Now will

0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:06.000
<v Speaker 3>they hold it against Kamala Harris?

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:06.400
<v Speaker 4>They should?

0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:08.160
<v Speaker 3>She said she was last in the room, and so on.

0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 3>Trump's got to remind people of that over and over

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:13.439
<v Speaker 3>and over again. But he's been hobbled on bragging about

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 3>his military service because these guys refused to remain silent.