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Speaker 1: Here we are Coop Grand Final week. Brother, here we are.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I've got a few things to talk about now.

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Speaker 1: Today we're going to talk about Madge off the Top.

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Speaker 1: Then we're going to to our Grand Final preview, sorry,

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Speaker 1: talk about all things Grand Final. Then finally we went

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Speaker 1: to finish with our backstage awards for the year, position awards,

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Speaker 1: Best Commentators, Best Journals, coach right through best Coach. You

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Speaker 1: got a Best Player of the Year. He like the jersey.

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Speaker 1: Did you own that over like a wok or something

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Speaker 3: What do you mean? Why is that funny?

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Speaker 1: Now? I just saw you had a money belt underneath

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Speaker 1: of the film.

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Speaker 3: That's my little pot belly that's been growing for the

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Speaker 3: last eight months.

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Speaker 1: So what year was that one?

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Speaker 3: This was twenty twenty. This was my second ever game

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Speaker 3: in first grade. We're in this jersey. First started half back.

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Speaker 3: So because I had the seven on my back, so

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Speaker 3: I stole it and I got all the boys to

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Speaker 3: sign it. So the coiches are on the back. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: sentimental to me. And we've got the V there for

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Speaker 3: Victoria that this is the only year that they've got

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Speaker 3: the V there because it was COVID year, so it

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Speaker 3: was like part of the Melbourne identity to play for

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Speaker 3: Victoria because everyone was in lockdown down there. But I thought,

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Speaker 3: good luck Omen leading into the Grand Final. We're going

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Speaker 3: to preview it. This was the last year we won it.

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Speaker 3: Come on, boys, you are the rabbit's foot. Do it

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Speaker 3: for the old boys.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love the fact. I do love

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Speaker 1: the fact that on Old Boys Day here and Manly

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Speaker 1: it was like someone said to me, Hey, Coop's going

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Speaker 1: to Old Boys Day and I'll go on Jesus Christ,

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Speaker 1: like when your son is being asked, he's he going

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Speaker 1: to Old Boys Day. That's when I went and basically

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't go to any Old Boys Day this year.

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Speaker 3: I just thought, you know what's very fresh. We'll give

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Speaker 3: it a year and then next year everybody will actually

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Speaker 3: see me as an old boy, because you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's been a while. Everyone looked down on.

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Speaker 1: Me A Cooper. No surprise, no surprise, how quickly they

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Speaker 1: made the appointment Madge to the Broncos. We suspected as

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Speaker 1: much as did most people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think it was, like we said

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Speaker 3: with the decision that location or you know, doesn't really

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Speaker 3: get a coach in who fits what we need, which

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Speaker 3: is which is a good decision because I mean if

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Speaker 3: someone who's you know, who understands the culture of the location,

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Speaker 3: then you know, I mean Craig Bellamy would have never

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Speaker 1: We'll cooper what about this. At the end of nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety one, the Broncos still had won a competition. Wayne

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Speaker 1: Bennett nearly got sacked at the end of nineteen ninety

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Speaker 1: God in Queensland, and so they needed somebody to there's

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Speaker 1: a circuit breaker. It teach the Broncos how to win.

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Speaker 1: Where'd they go? They went to New South Wales and Brookland, Lazarus.

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Speaker 1: That's what they did. Hey, just win, baby, that's all

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Speaker 1: we care about. Who cares about borders with geography or topography.

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Speaker 3: Just win one hundred latitude longersud.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, equator what mate. As

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Speaker 1: I said before, like the top, it happened so quickly,

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Speaker 1: with Madge. That's not a criticism in my opinion, it's

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Speaker 1: the board anyway, the board was sort of like that.

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Speaker 1: One thing led to another. When Kevy was sacked, he

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Speaker 3: It's it is interesting you said that like there was

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Speaker 3: Soerraudo's one, Jason Royles is another. Now they've both been

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Speaker 3: I mean now, it's if there's ever a time to

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Speaker 1: Totally agree with you, Totally agree. And as far as

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Speaker 1: that his goal has always been he sees himself as

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Speaker 1: to go back into club land and Cooper, here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: If I'm a manager's a position I take the job.

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Speaker 1: How many times does a job like the Broncos come

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Speaker 1: up for for a coach. It's it's basically once in

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Speaker 1: They are close to the biggest brand in Australian sport.

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Speaker 3: They are. They've got the biggest membership, they've got the

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Speaker 3: a if you're a leprechaun and you picked one team

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Speaker 1: Okay. Can I just ask you something, Eleprecorn. When you

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Speaker 3: Just meant like leprecn is into like you get oh no,

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Speaker 3: leprequns don't make wishes coming.

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Speaker 1: If you're a genie. Leprecorns what they do at the

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Speaker 1: don't grant wishes. I'll make you rich, but they don't

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Speaker 3: Well, can you grant me a wish if I ask

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Speaker 3: you about it? Who takes this new so Wal's blues

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Speaker 3: I want to ask you because your name always gets

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Speaker 3: Madge obviously got appointed. Your name is getting thrown up

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Speaker 1: Or can I give you some advice? Yeah? No, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I didn't. I didn't mean it like that.

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Speaker 1: You're a grown man. I'm not giving you advice. I'm

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Speaker 1: path that we shouldn't go on. It's called ego. Now,

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Speaker 1: when people come out and say to me, Matthew John's

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Speaker 1: perfectly honest to you, it feels good. It does because

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Speaker 3: But is that do you think that's the demise of

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Speaker 1: Look, here's my thing. I've picked my path. My career

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Speaker 1: understand how to handle egos. You have to understand how

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Speaker 1: I've taken my path coops and it's wonderful. People say

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Speaker 1: is this coop in my life. The best thing that

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Speaker 1: I put more currency on having a life like that

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Speaker 3: Well, you just spoke about I wanted to ask you

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Speaker 3: something you just said. You just said. Wayne Bennett told

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Speaker 3: you if you're going to take on a role like

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Speaker 3: Start of Origin, you need to be coaching day to day.

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Speaker 3: Get coach if it make mistakes, learn from him. How

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Speaker 3: did that work with Billy Slater?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 3: Because he he didn't get he didn't get that day

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Speaker 1: It's a very good question. I'll say this. With Billy.

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Speaker 1: You've seen Billy he does quite a bit of coaching,

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Speaker 1: But thinking about with Billy, Billy, they tell me leading

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Speaker 3: Melbourne Storm verse is the Penrith pants.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry about drawing cards. It's going to be very

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Speaker 1: I thought four weeks was pretty steep. But when he

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Speaker 3: That's the precedent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I disagree. I totally disagree to. Like apples

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Speaker 1: I had to sort of.

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Speaker 2: Address that game after it happened, watched it back as

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Speaker 2: It was just like thinking back of it, it's kind

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Speaker 2: we're just getting bullied. I think us as a group

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Speaker 1: Okay, so here we go add some spice to this game.

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Speaker 1: These two clubs would come full circle. So the Panthers will, right,

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Speaker 1: We've got no doubt. Through the week they'll be saying, hey, listen,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think definitely. Like obviously the fairy tale is, oh,

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Speaker 1: There is so much Cameron Smith about the way Nathan

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Speaker 3: Now there is a bloke that he they don't have,

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're storm on penrith asks as Craig Bellamy,

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Speaker 1: I'd just like to say something. Yeah, and I'm you know, congratulations,

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Speaker 3: For what football career or.

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Speaker 1: Football career that is up there with the funniest thing

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Speaker 1: you ever said? No, mate, the lawn out there, mate, honestly,

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Speaker 1: can you tell me about your technique.

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Speaker 1: I'm just chilling. Other than that, are you serious? Really?

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Speaker 1: I mean, Coop, this is like my fantasy question. Just

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Speaker 3: it does. It gives me a lot more time to

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Speaker 3: go to the beach do gym, which I like to do.

435
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Speaker 1: You're like Rodney Dangerfield.

436
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Speaker 3: I love the gym. It's very good for you.

437
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Speaker 1: I learned from Penrith. If i'm and I look and

438
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 1: I say to my boys, hey, we're playing against a

439
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Speaker 1: very mentally tough football sign. Secondly, I'm going to say this,

440
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,239
Speaker 1: you have to when you play Melbourne, you can't let

441
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 1: them breathe. You've got to start fast and you've got

442
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 1: to keep the pressure on them. Because what we saw

443
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 1: the Roosters last week. The Roosters started fast and yes

444
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 1: no down to twelve member. The Roosters ate meal up

445
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 1: and they started fast and all of a sudden, the

446
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: moment that the Roosters just took that just took the

447
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: foot off them. Melbourne just went try that. They bled points.

448
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 1: Once you take the pressure off Melbourne and give them

449
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 1: almost equal share, equal dominance in the ruck, you are

450
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: going to blued points. Another example of how mentally tough coop.

451
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Speaker 1: They are twenty four twenty four to eight at halftime,

452
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Speaker 1: twenty four eight half time. They came out after halftime

453
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 1: and Roosters have a really good ten to fifteen minute period,

454
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Speaker 1: they go back, the score gearback gets back to twenty

455
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: four or eighteen. Now, I reckon coops outside of Penrith

456
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Speaker 1: and Melbourne, I reckon most sides will start to tighten,

457
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: their start to play nervous mate. They're coming at us

458
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: from we can hear the footsteps come and they're coming

459
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 1: at us really hard. Melbourne, they just met that challenge

460
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: with aggression and just lifted the tempo and scored twenty

461
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Speaker 1: four unanswered points. That's that is mental toughness. Yeah, it's

462
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Speaker 1: a good it's.

463
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Speaker 3: And they do it a lot down there. I know

464
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Speaker 3: Penrith do it the best sides. They actually practice for

465
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Speaker 3: those scenarios. Matt Dad, Sorry, when they they come and

466
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 3: they absorb coming from six, when they know they're six

467
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 3: points up, they deal. They say, right over, were gonna

468
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 3: do a ten minute armrestile here, you guys are six

469
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 3: point there's ten minutes ago. You guys are six points up.

470
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 3: And they practice for scenarios where don't go into your shell.

471
00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 3: Practice absorbing pressure and then being able to actually have

472
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Speaker 3: the mentality and the discipline to know, let's keep the

473
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Speaker 3: foot on the throat because it is an art like

474
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 3: in the middle of the game, when you're under fatigue.

475
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 3: Human instinct is we need to defend our lead. Particularly

476
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 3: in professional sport, we need to defend what we've got. Like,

477
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 3: let's just try to let's just try to get over

478
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 3: the finish line without making errors and stuff. But if

479
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Speaker 3: you can train yourself and you like and your whole

480
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 3: team's mentality to when you're up by six points in

481
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 3: the pressure's on, you're absorbing a lot of pressure to

482
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Speaker 3: be able to match that pressure, like you said, with

483
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Speaker 3: aggression and go straight back at a team and flip

484
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Speaker 3: the momentum. It's a powerful thing, especially in big games.

485
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Speaker 1: I formulated that idea watching Stephen Crichton play in that

486
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: first semi final against mainly in the fact that, like

487
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Speaker 1: I can see the Bullogs when they started their game,

488
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: they're a little bit nervous, and Crichton really showed them

489
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: the way. Like adrenaline coop Adrenaline suppresses pain and it

490
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: suppresses appetite. I said to Poof, you want to lose weight,

491
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 1: train keep training because when it adrenaline goes up, you

492
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: don't feel like eating it, Like it literally suppresses it.

493
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: Aggression suppresses nervousness. Yeah, that's like I took that for

494
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: Christ and the way Melbourne play, you can see that

495
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: when if things when most teams will get nervous, they'll

496
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: raise the tempo and up the aggression and it just

497
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 1: suppresses the other, suppresses the other emotion coops. Okay, what

498
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Speaker 1: what what concerns you about Penrith.

499
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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of individuals I could name,

500
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 3: but we're going We're going to get to those sort

501
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 3: of key players. But the biggest concern with Penrith is

502
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 3: their ability to do the simplest, the simplest foundations of

503
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 3: the game. Kickchase, kick return and rock speed like that,

504
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 3: those three kind of cycles, catching a kick, returning it,

505
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 3: finishing your set, finishing in their corner. Nobody does it

506
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 3: better than Penrith. Nobody does that simple system of which

507
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 3: is the backbone of rugby league, the foundation of it.

508
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 3: Nobody does it as good as them. So I think

509
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: how good they are at those three things and how

510
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 3: important those three things are in a game like a

511
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 3: Grand Final. That's the major thing that concerns me, because

512
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 3: you know, you look at Melbourne's key players who they

513
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 3: try to they play a very similar style of that

514
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 3: where they kick and they try to bash you on

515
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: plus one and plus two and they try to drag

516
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: teams to the deepense so they can really blow them

517
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 3: at the end of the game. Penrith are the best

518
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 3: at that. So I think matching having two of the

519
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 3: best teams that match in a very similar style of

520
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 3: play with how they want to approach a game. That

521
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 3: concerns me because Penrith are the best at the business

522
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 3: with it.

523
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Speaker 1: You won't be surprised for me to say that concerns

524
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: me is the spine creatives and through the middle. They're very,

525
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: very good at drill in the middle. And one of

526
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: the concerns I have Coops is I'm looking at my

527
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: big guys, my middle forwards, and they've played a lot

528
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: of hard football for five years and I can see

529
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: that they're a little bit it. They're not as invincible

530
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: as they have been now. I'm not saying that that

531
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: their careers are going off a cliff, it's just that

532
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: it's been five hard seasons and you can see a

533
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: bit of fatigue in the bones. So the threat of

534
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: the threat of Munster, Hughes and Grant through the middle

535
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: causes huge concern, but also the variation off that coops, right,

536
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: is that I just love. I loved what I saw

537
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: when Melbourne did this, right, is that Jerome and Munster

538
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: were playing really straight gun barrel, straight bang. And what

539
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: they were doing is they were bringing they'll bringing the

540
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: Rooster's defense in and then but all of a sudden

541
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,719
Speaker 1: they just tip the ball to perhaps on a forty

542
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: five meter sprint, and he would basically they close in,

543
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: they give him the ball at forty five degrees and

544
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: he'd just go at a million miles an hour, and

545
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: it just it causes so many It just completely disrupted

546
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: the Rooster's defense in and around Angus Krichton and Luke Keary.

547
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: The first time they did it, Luke slid before the

548
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: ball went past him. One of the cardinal sins of

549
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: defense perhaps went through and scored. The second time they

550
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: did it, Luke was like, jeez, I'm not going to

551
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: let that happen again, and actually chased him too hard

552
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: and then inside ball and they score. That's what causes

553
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: that causes me concerned all the thread of those blakes,

554
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: but also those little variations.

555
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 3: You to do with well, like you said, when you

556
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 3: have someone that's that quick at the back of shape,

557
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: the normal edge defense would go right, oh, centers if

558
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: they go deep, go and jam them. But Melbourne is

559
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 3: so clever with their they have so many variations and

560
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 3: Arsenal's up there up their sleeve that if you if

561
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: you start to jam as a center, you know they've

562
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 3: got the tunnel ball where they cut paps out straight

563
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 3: to the center, or they've got their big back rowers

564
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: in Blaw and Katowa who run a nice little out

565
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 3: ball line into that space. Which that out ball line

566
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 3: is a good way to expose jamming centers in rugby league.

567
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 3: So it really does. Having fullback perhaps out the back

568
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: really does. Just it sparks so much attack variation for him.

569
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Speaker 1: If I'm even I'm saying to Taruva and boys, I'm

570
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: going to rely on your instinctive IQ defensively at times,

571
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: because we're going to show him a little bit room

572
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: on the edge as opposed to showing him through the middle.

573
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: And particularly Papenhausen, the lesser of two evils as far

574
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: as as sliding off or showing him space on the

575
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: edge is we're better off shown him bit of space

576
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: on the edge and challenging him to throw the long pass.

577
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: And that's where your wingers. You've got to have football LIKEQ.

578
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: They can't be blinded by the defensive principles, if that

579
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: makes sense, and just jamming in blindly. They have to

580
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: be able to read and go pick a bloke off

581
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: or even pick the ball off an intercept, which we've

582
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: seen before. Stephen Crichton, so good at that. Okay, your

583
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: game breaker, Coops, we.

584
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Speaker 3: Just spoke about him. Actually, Ryan Papenhausen, there's a lot,

585
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: a lot you can pick from that spine. But perhaps

586
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 3: last week had his best game of the season. I believe.

587
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 3: I think he's. Last time he played Pendri in a

588
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 3: Grand Final, he was Clive Churchill medalists. He's just a

589
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: big game player.

590
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: Two.

591
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 3: Perhaps he prepares very meticulously. He's a really hard worker

592
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: at his game, and I think taking him a couple

593
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 3: of years coming back from that injury to really hit

594
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: this kind of form, and now he's hitting it. I

595
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 3: think he's going to have a big game. And I think,

596
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: like we just said that speed around the back of

597
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 3: shape as well as short sides. I mean, he's really

598
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: going to trouble Penrith.

599
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: I think, well, you won't be surprised to me say

600
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: the halfback Nathan Cleary. It's my game breaker and he

601
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,959
Speaker 1: can do it in several ways. Great thing about Nathan

602
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: he can slowly wear you down, inside balls, quality kicks,

603
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: make the ball come off your line, just really controlling everything,

604
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: being disciplined, putting the ball in areas you don't want

605
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: to bring the ball out of. But then secondly coops

606
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: you can dominate the game and in the last ten

607
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: to fifteen minutes We've seen numerous times that he can

608
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: snatch victory by his ability to handle pressure, come up

609
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: with a really big play right when you need it.

610
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: If Nathan was a professional gambler in Vegas, I would

611
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: say that Nathan would be more comfortable in the high

612
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: rollers than anywhere else. That's what I'd say. Yeah, he's

613
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: like a high roll. He's like a high roller. He

614
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: is comfortable under the most immense pressure.

615
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's what he's going to win.

616
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: Why Melbourne got to win.

617
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 3: I think Melbourne is going to win because I just

618
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 3: think how they're going to target. I spoke about it

619
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Speaker 3: last week of how Sharks played against them, how Sharks

620
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: played against Panrith. I think that first twenty minutes of

621
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: Sharks had It's a great blueprint on other teams and

622
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 3: how to play Penrith because you can fall into the trap.

623
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: Sometimes they tighten right up and they try to bash.

624
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 3: They try to bash teams to make you go sideways,

625
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 3: to try to make you shift the ball and make meters.

626
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 3: But then they use that sideline as a weapon. They

627
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 3: tried to drag over the sideline and they bash it

628
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 3: with their line speed. So I think we take we

629
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: take penrath on by just really ex targeting their middle

630
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: for a few plays and then if we're going to

631
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: take them on, it's down short sides. That's where typically

632
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: defenses are passive. If they if they're down a number,

633
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 3: they won't be aggressive and come out. They'll back off

634
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 3: and use the media ridge and the field that they

635
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 3: have behind them to use the sideline. So I think

636
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 3: there's a lot of opportunity for Melbourne taking on those

637
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: short sides, but I think it's in the middle. It's

638
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 3: in the middle for Melbourne. You got to you've got

639
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 3: to match their middle, and you've got to try to

640
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: get down and get up as quick as possible and

641
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: try to just get as much rock speed as you

642
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: can and really tire out their middle forwards.

643
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: Well, Nelson suits Penrith's cause. Him not being there suits

644
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: the cause. However, I can see this the Penrith middles well.

645
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: I would say Melbourne in general look fresher than Penrith do. Yeah.

646
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: So number one, Penrith's outside backs have got to dominate

647
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: yardage eighty percent of the yardist they have to dominate.

648
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: They've got to leave petrol in the tank for the

649
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: big blokes in the middle, so that when the Melbourne

650
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: creators are starting to come at the throat, they've got

651
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: to have the gas to be able to defend it.

652
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: I Penrith need to start fast. Don't come out of

653
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: the sheds and just fall straight into an arm wrestle.

654
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: Melbourne derive confidence from the arm wrestle and they will

655
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: look at They'll look at I think Penrith and see

656
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: a bit of vulnerability as far as energy is concerned.

657
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: At this point of the year. You start fast in

658
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 1: Grand Finals, your star are don't start conservative. Start fast,

659
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: give yourself an opportunity to get twelve points clear early on.

660
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: So start really fast. If then you have to go

661
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: back to an arm wrestle, if Melbourne all of a

662
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: sudden hold sustain and absorb that you go back into

663
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: the arm wrestle and you work away and you just

664
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: you stick with it and again, I'll come back to

665
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: the fact it's got to be the backs that dominate

666
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: the yardage. Our forwards, penrith forwards need to have energy

667
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: to defend. That's what they have to backs, work away

668
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: force defense. Okay, where the point's going to come from.

669
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: We need to dominate the ardage and arm wrestle so

670
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: that we're in a position at the end of every

671
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: set for one of Nathan's attacking kicks. Nathan regularly gets

672
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: in the position for attacking kicks, then points will come.

673
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: Points are going to come. The other thing on top

674
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: of that is that I think there's vulnerability on the

675
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: edges with Melbourne. Melbourne sometimes get hamstrung or neck tied

676
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: to the principal of defense. They have got the propensity

677
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: if you put certain formations up, they will rush in

678
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: outside in blindly. Let's come back. Let's go to the

679
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: press conference last week. Ivan Ivan was quite it was

680
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: unusual what he spoke about the Talachai interference. Try Ghana Ivan,

681
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: It's just a wrong decision, and I've got to say

682
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm having a lot of anxiety about this. I'm going

683
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: to have a long lot of anxiety all week about

684
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: the fact that this might happen again and it was

685
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: just the wrong decision. You don't hear I've been talking

686
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: about that now, ty He spoke about that coupe because

687
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: there is vulnerability around Nick Mooney and will Wardbrick as

688
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: a combination. Mini has played a lot of wing, He's

689
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: played a lot of fullback. He's not seasoned and self

690
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: experienced in the centers, and he and Will get disconnected

691
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: sometimes and they do flying blindly. So I reckon that

692
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: Ivan is going to run the exact same shapes at

693
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: the exact same edge, and coming out and talking about

694
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: that publicly is just clear in the air and putting

695
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: the officials on notice. You got it wrong before, don't

696
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: get it wrong again.

697
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 3: It's funny to talk about the edges as well, because

698
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: I got a good theory that I think this is

699
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 3: as vulnerable as a panrith A has been as well.

700
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 3: I think this is the first year in about four

701
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 3: years where Ivan's been very chopping and changing with Taruva

702
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 3: and a couple of the Senata's McLean's first model really,

703
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 3: so I think they've got a lot of inexperience out

704
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: there which they haven't ever had before. So I'd love

705
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 3: to see Melbourne really challenge their edges. And I think

706
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: a big target for Melbourne as well the winger is

707
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 3: Xavier Coats and Wild Warbrick. They've got an extra they've

708
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 3: got an extra head on and particularly Warprick on Tarouver.

709
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 3: They're both really good kick targets. So I reckon you'll

710
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 3: see Jerome Hughes and Monthster putting a lot of kicking,

711
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 3: attacking kicks.

712
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: Up for that coops unbiasedly who wins by how much?

713
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: And who gets Clive Churchill.

714
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 3: I Storm, I've got Storm by eight and Ryan Papenhaus

715
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: and Clive church medalist.

716
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: There'd be second one.

717
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: Hey, I've gone, I've I'm gone.

718
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: Penrith, I'm gonna, I mean it really is. It's so tight.

719
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: I mean dollar ninety two at the start of the

720
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: week and a bit of money's gone for Melbourne. Think

721
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: about what you're gambling with, h But I've said from

722
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: halfway through the year I thought Penallsy were going to

723
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: go for in a row. So I'm not gonna. I'm

724
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: not gonna give it up now. I'm going to give

725
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: Penrith and I think this game has got the propensity

726
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: been one of the greatest Grand Finals. I want to

727
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: say Penrith in Golden Point and I'm going to go

728
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 1: Dylan Edwards close Churchill medal. If you back Dylan Edwards

729
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: for Men of the match in all big games, you're

730
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: never going to go break right O coops, they're still awards,

731
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: our backstage awards for season twenty twenty four. Let's go

732
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: through the position awards.

733
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: Your fullback, I had James Tedesco. Congratulations to Teddy, come

734
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 3: up and get your award. Yeah, I had him as

735
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: my fullback. I think he's had a great year. I

736
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 3: think he couped a bit of flak not getting picked

737
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 3: for Origin, but I think he bounced back and played

738
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 3: a lot, very good for his club.

739
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: I've gone Dylan Edwards. Easy to go to Tedesco or

740
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: Kalon deserving, but Dylan Edwards. Given the fact the floor

741
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: to the seiling, there's basically almost no difference. At worst,

742
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: he's seven and a half out of ten. At best

743
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: he's nine and a half out of ten. Dylan Edwards.

744
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 3: Your winger Brian too, He's out, just isn't He's just

745
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: a gun he's just he keeps getting better every year.

746
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: I think, you know, I think this has nearly been

747
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 3: his best year. Again, like he hasn't been as flashy

748
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 3: as some years he's had, but he's just so consistent. Brian,

749
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 3: he's so good.

750
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: I've gone will warp brick. Oh yeah, yeah, he's improvement.

751
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: The last Jodi Mans has been been pretty astounding, particularly

752
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: particularly this year. He's been tremendous.

753
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 3: It's a freaking man. He's a freaking center. Stephen Crichton,

754
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: it's Stephen Crichton. I think for me it was between

755
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 3: him and Herbie Farnsworth. I think they've both been they're

756
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: both the apex of centers in the comp but crit

757
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: has been outstanding.

758
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 1: I'll say Stephen Crichton a little bit of a gap

759
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: and then the pack after that, the six I had.

760
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 3: Jerome Leui actually spoke about it last week. I think

761
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: it's been Rome's best year of his career, mainly because

762
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 3: he's had to do it without Nathan majority of the year.

763
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 3: I think it's outstanding in State of Origin what he'd

764
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 3: brought to that team, and I think he's I think

765
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 3: he's really showed himself as a leader and as a half.

766
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: He's actually showed he can do a half backs role

767
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 3: as well, not just a running five eights, so.

768
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 1: That we're starting to synchronize here. I've gone Jerome as well. Yeah,

769
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: he's in the best form of his career. I think

770
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: it's his best season of his career. Very very similar

771
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: to Stephen Crichton had a great Origin Series and since

772
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: then he's football is elevated. You've got a lot more

773
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: self belief. I'm excited for it. He's going to do

774
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: it with the Tigers next year.

775
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 3: Okay, seven, I think everybody's got the same seven this year.

776
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: Jerome Hughes, he's been for someone who's been at the

777
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: top of who's been in the top two half backs,

778
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 3: top three half backs for the last three or four years.

779
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 3: He's taken his game to the next level. Hughsey this

780
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: year and he's just been so consistent and put that

781
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: team on his back at times when Munster or Harry

782
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 3: or Paps hasn't been on the team. Thirty I had Isaiahjoh,

783
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 3: I had Yowie. I think I think it was I

784
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: we used to have. You might have a different opinion

785
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 3: on this, but there used to be a couple of

786
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 3: years a couple of years ago, there was like Locks

787
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 3: chomping at the bit for Lock of the Year. I

788
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 3: think as I think this has probably been the least

789
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 3: competitive year for lack of the year. I think I

790
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 3: think a lot of the big name locks didn't have

791
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 3: their best year.

792
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: The side certainly didn't. Like Carrigan, Ruben, Cotter, Rubin was good.

793
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, but I know you mean like Cowboys never

794
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: really Victor was in out with injuries.

795
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I had. Like Carragan, you know, he

796
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 3: had a tough year with the Bronx.

797
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: I've got Isaiah. I'm a huge fan of Isaiah. You

798
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: know the work he does in the midfields, decision making,

799
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: he's one of the most intelligion players. He's one of

800
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 1: the most selfless whatever's needed. Like we've seen him late

801
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: running the football. Had a tough middle year, but the

802
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: last five six weeks he's been outstanding.

803
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: Back ra Angus Crichton far out. I mean he's been

804
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 3: He's an absolute machine. Honor our mentions to like Ali

805
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 3: Katawa and Mlilokawatu, but I think Angus Crichton has just

806
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 3: he's been unstoppable this year.

807
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Williami kick out as well? Yeah, I've got Angus Crichton. Yea.

808
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,959
Speaker 1: His career was on the was on the brink. Yeah,

809
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, it was just about signed with Rugby Australi

810
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: and I think they might have even pulled out. Yeah

811
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: they did. Yeah, wow, unbelievable. They are really cursed at

812
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: the moment.

813
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 3: Front Row Coops added, Fanilla Blake, did you have him

814
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 3: as well? Yeah, well, yeah, I think I think that

815
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 3: the Pandrith boys kind of they take away from each

816
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: other sometimes. Leota and Fisher Harris, they're a great duo together.

817
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 3: But Foranilla Blake, he's a great individual. Prop like he

818
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 3: what he does. He's going to be missed at the Worries,

819
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 3: I loved. I can't wait to see him at the

820
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 3: Sharks now.

821
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: He's opportunity for the Sharks. There him coming. Yeah, yeah,

822
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: Coop on the same Adam fiel Blake hasn't quite had

823
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: the same impact of last season, but I think sides

824
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: had something to do with that. Yeah, And there was

825
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: always something going on. There was obviously something going on

826
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. He asked for the release to go

827
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: back to the Sharks, and there was some funny stuff

828
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 1: mid season about him being stood down for games. But coops.

829
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: Every time he gets the ball, little step, he just

830
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: always sticking his nose. Yeah, he's incredible player.

831
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 3: Okay, hooker our man Harry, Harry Grant, Harry Houdini. I

832
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 3: think mate, he's been. He's been unbelievable this year. It's

833
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 3: been his It's I've said it about a few of them,

834
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 3: but I think it's been Harry's best year as well.

835
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: I think the last couple of years, getting to the

836
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 3: back end of the years carried injuries and he's looked

837
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 3: a bit fatigued after Origin. But this year he's just

838
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: he's peaked at the back end of the year.

839
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: Soon to be Queensland captain and soon to be a

840
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: Australian captain.

841
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: In my opinion, play Mate, I had our man, the

842
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 3: contortionist Tyranne wish Shark. Yeah, yeah, I think wish Tyrone

843
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 3: Wishart has been mate. There was a there was an

844
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 3: argument at one stage that he was the form. He

845
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: was the best five eight in the comp for a

846
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 3: couple of rounds there. How good he was playing when

847
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: Munster was out and then when he's gone to the bench,

848
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 3: same thing. Every time he's come on, he's he's been.

849
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: He's nearly been a lock for any time try score

850
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 3: a few of the times coming off the bench sometimes,

851
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: so he's been outstanding. His versatility is just it's so good.

852
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: You can play majority everywhere.

853
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: I've gone Spencer Lan Spencer in origin really good off

854
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: the bench and I mean easier bench player. Well well

855
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: not really, but he's been great off the bench when

856
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: he did okay, coop, okay, let's go to the other one.

857
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: Best young player of the year.

858
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 3: I had Ethan Strange down there. He's a really good player.

859
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 3: He's me and Jack had a night out with him

860
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 3: at Magic Round two. He's bigger than you think.

861
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: Jack.

862
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: Ever, is there any what you haven't had a night

863
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: out with?

864
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 3: I think it's on a lot of young kids bucket

865
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: list to have a night out with it. Like I

866
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: think that's like, you know, when kids come into the NRL,

867
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 3: you know you want to you want to play with

868
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 3: this player, you want to do that, you want to

869
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 3: have a beer with the John's boys. That's I'm pretty

870
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: sure that's on a couple of us.

871
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: I've gone Lucky Galvin really like what he did. He's

872
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 1: on the up and up. He's a very very good,

873
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: very good player and Coop the player. I'd liken him

874
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: to his way, Graham, I think he'll turn into that

875
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: type of player and shout out to Lehigh Hoppawardi. I

876
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: reckon if Lee High had played more games than first

877
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: grade boon in earlier he is. He's pure class.

878
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got unlucky going to Ford and go into

879
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 3: the bench a couple of times too. So Lee has

880
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 3: had a great year.

881
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: Okay, best leader, Coop.

882
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 3: I had Dally Cherry Evans. Actually yeah, he held the

883
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 3: fort there for manly for a majority of the year.

884
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 3: A couple turbo got injured, a couple of people got injured,

885
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 3: and he just turned like at the age the supper

886
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 3: age of thirty five, Dalla Chrier Evans, he'd just turn

887
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 3: up like, he'd just turn up and play. He'd back

888
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 3: up from origin every time and he'd just play outstanding.

889
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 3: His kicking game is amazing.

890
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: I've gone Stephen Crichton. It's the obvious. Stephen Crichton for

891
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: a second or third for me. Most intimidating player, Coops.

892
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 3: Oh god, I had Adam Vanilla Blake. If I saw

893
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 3: Adam Vanilla Blake coming on the other side of the street,

894
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 3: I would ship myself Yeah, he's a scary looking dude.

895
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: Let's face it made. You've played against him a few

896
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: times and cheat yourself anyway. I've gone Moses Liota. He

897
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: just he's a tough piece of granite.

898
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 2: That guy.

899
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, best personality player made.

900
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 3: I had Scottie drinkwater, love drinking, love drinking.

901
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: What a great bloke. He was on the cow on

902
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: Sunday night. He's got a bell problem, mate, he was

903
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: was he fighting a mate?

904
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: He has this the worst, he used to have the

905
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 3: He got the stinkiest aswarded storm two years running.

906
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: I got caught coming out of that break say, brother,

907
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: you gotta have more fiber in your diet. It was

908
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: just what's going on?

909
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 3: And he just laughs when he does it in your face,

910
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: like he's not the kind of guy that'll apologize. He'll

911
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 3: just laugh at you, knowing how bad it smells.

912
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: He had drop kick mates in the crowd and when

913
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: he was cutting them and I was looking at them

914
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: and they were like nod in a way. So you're right, grubs.

915
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: I've gone to tab Rudolph. I love the bloke, really good,

916
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: just great character. Best journalist coop, best journalist.

917
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 3: Of the mate. There's a few right, how can we

918
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 3: go past the best man? What a start he's had

919
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 3: on the podcast. Mister yeah right, Buzz roth Field.

920
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: I've gone Buzz as well. He makes three sixty and

921
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: honorable mentioned Bulldog Ritchie. He's misguided ideas, just a pleasure

922
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: to watch every week. Best commentator, Coops as far as

923
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: ball by ball commentator, firstly.

924
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, who the one there's like? Who the ones

925
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 3: out there?

926
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: Just for the listen, Okay, I've gone, I've gone. Dan Ganain,

927
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: I reckon. Dan is the best commentator in the Ragul

928
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:11,959
Speaker 1: League at the moment.

929
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, that's goodbye, isn't it.

930
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: That's his go to here he goes goodbye.

931
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, dan Ganaine. I think to be

932
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 3: a good commentator you need to have something that's iconic too,

933
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 3: a part like Ray Warren had his voice, But there's

934
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 3: the other ones kind of don't really have anything that

935
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 3: is iconic to their course.

936
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: A lot of times, Coops, as commentators get older, they

937
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: get more timber in their voice and they sound better.

938
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: Go and have a listen to Rabs in the eighties,

939
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: listen to Vossi in the nineties, and listen to how

940
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: different they sound now.

941
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 3: Oh really.

942
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Dan's Dan in the last twelve months sort

943
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: of entered that phase. Best expert commentator.

944
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 3: But I had you, I had Maddie John's.

945
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: You did commentated. Yeah, it still.

946
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 3: Counts mate one, and what a fabulous game it was.

947
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 3: I didn't watch it, but I heard it was really good. No,

948
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 3: I had you, I had you. I think there's a

949
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 3: few expert commentators out there that can really dribble. But

950
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 3: you you did it very well when you did it.

951
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 1: I've gone. I've got a couple of gone, Joey John's.

952
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: I don't watch a lot of like Free to Wear

953
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: very real. I'll turn out just to make sure that

954
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: Andrew's turned up to work. And when Andrew applies himself,

955
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: he's fantastic. And the other one too. I think Brandy

956
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: Brandy's great commentator, Yeah as well Cooper. Best coach of

957
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: the year.

958
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 3: I had Craig Bellamy. A lot of good coaches this year,

959
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 3: but I think what Belli has done given the last

960
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 3: couple of years of even though they've made semis and stuff,

961
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 3: the last couple of years, they've they've underperformed and they've

962
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 3: lacked They've really lacked something in that side and Bellier.

963
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 3: You managed to find it with a couple couple good recruits,

964
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 3: but he really has transformed that side's attack and defense

965
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 3: like they're a completely different side than but they were

966
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 3: last year.

967
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: My call is a little bit tough on belly Ache

968
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 1: and Ivan because look what they've done. But camp Soralda,

969
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: I think how he improved that football side. He started

970
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: the season underpressure too, and he did not have a

971
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: superstar roster. He has found what I've admired about the

972
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 1: Bulldogs and Cameron is they have found their own unique

973
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: style of football. I love that. Cooper finally your best

974
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 1: player dream Hughes. Thanks Curbs. Made enjoy the game, brother,

975
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: People out there really enjoy the game. It's been a

976
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: cracking season in my opinion. It's been close to the

977
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: best season in Raby League in my lifetime. And hopefully

978
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: it finishes with an exclamation mark.

979
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 3: We have a great product on our hands. Let's keep

980
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 3: building it. Matthew, are you going to the Grand Final?

981
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 3: Any chance?

982
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: No, mate, the couch will miss me.

983
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I'm going to the game.

984
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: Actually letting people know. Okay, it'll be released on Monday, Okay,

985
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: which is public holiday. If you're traveling anywhere, or you're

986
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: having a few beers at home with some mates or

987
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 1: anything like that. I am going to release the Maddie

988
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: John's Grand Final Quiz. It's going to be fifty questions people.

989
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: If you can get I'm going to outline a little

990
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: bit later the zero out of ten what you're worth. Basically,

991
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: if you zero out of ten, go back to AFL

992
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: ten to twenty, I'm not a real fan. And then

993
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: we go forward like that. If you get between forty

994
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: and fifty, people, between forty and fifty, you are a

995
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: Rugby League savant. I'm telling you now. If you get fifty,

996
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: you are a Rugby League immortal. And a nice little surprise,

997
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: if you get fifty, you get to spend a week

998
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: living with the eighth I Mortal, Andrew Johns. So look

999
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: out for that. Come on your way Monday. I'll let

1000
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: you know it ain't easy being cheesy.

1001
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 3: Goodbye, Matthew