Speaker 1: From the Sky News Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Sherry. Can I come on into the man
Speaker 1: cave Paul Lenty to get to tonight. Don't forget huge
Speaker 1: shows ahead of what is going to be our election
Speaker 1: coverage here on Sky News, Ourtown to Woman on Sunday,
Speaker 1: Peter Dutton taking your questions in the pub test on Monday.
Speaker 1: Look forward to all of that. We've got so much
Speaker 1: to get to between now and then, including all killer
Speaker 1: no filler tonight, Robin Bishop, Stephen Conroy, all about the budget,
Speaker 1: all about the politics, and all about the what's next,
Speaker 1: plus the one, the only, the great, the awesome, the
Speaker 1: reason that we are NHD or four K maybe somewhere
Speaker 1: Meghan Kelly.
Speaker 2: With the help of CBS, who's in sixty minutes, it's
Speaker 2: all rewritten and get wrapped into. I was reased to
Speaker 2: tell the.
Speaker 1: Truth now you know. I love busting the bs. In fact,
Speaker 1: there was a firework named after that very thing, Paul
Speaker 1: Murray's BS Buster, that we fired off on Cracker Night,
Speaker 1: July the first in Darwin a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: and all of the pollys in Canberra running around labor
Speaker 1: people thinking oh that's it. We're won the election, we
Speaker 1: could even increase our majority. The media, of course, all
Speaker 1: day every day discussing about this decision and that decision,
Speaker 1: of course myself included. But still the media that obsess
Speaker 1: about this annual media pr event. Well, as I said,
Speaker 1: to bust the bs every now and then, you need
Speaker 1: to be reminded that this is a country full of
Speaker 1: compulsory voters, people who don't pay as much attention as us,
Speaker 1: and they will have just as much say as US
Speaker 1: news dot com dot You met a few of them
Speaker 1: today and this is just going to burst all those
Speaker 1: egos who think everything rides on the budget.
Speaker 2: Do you care about the budget?
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, don't even know what that is.
Speaker 2: Have you watched the budget last night?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Do you care about the budget?
Speaker 4: I don't even know what it is in all honesty, do.
Speaker 1: You know what's in the budget at all?
Speaker 2: Do you care about the budget?
Speaker 1: Probably not compulsory voting. They have as much say as
Speaker 1: you and I, and they're just as Australian as you
Speaker 1: and I. So that's the way the system works. But
Speaker 1: I just want to burst this bubble, this idea again
Speaker 1: that the frenzy of joy in the Labor Party. Oh,
Speaker 1: we've turned the corner on our way. The media, does
Speaker 1: this effect the election result? I want to remind the
Speaker 1: collective political media complex that the real world doesn't really
Speaker 1: pay the granular attention that yes, we do. Again, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm part of this, but let's remind ourselves about the
Speaker 1: rest of the world. There was a poll that came
Speaker 1: out last year, after we had spent weeks and weeks
Speaker 1: and weeks talking about the changes to the Stage three
Speaker 1: tax cuts. Fifty three percent of people said they knew
Speaker 1: nothing at all or hardly anything. This is a reminder
Speaker 1: about no matter how loud the conversation in parts of
Speaker 1: the media, there are very significant number of people who
Speaker 1: just either don't care or they're doing something else. And
Speaker 1: this isn't something that's just Green's voters or people between
Speaker 1: the ages of eighteen to twenty four. It was forty
Speaker 1: seven percent of Labor supporters, forty nine percent of Coalition voters,
Speaker 1: fifty percent of Green's voters, and well over that when
Speaker 1: it comes to everyone, from the trumpet of the patriots
Speaker 1: through the teals, the real independence, one nation and anything
Speaker 1: else in between. And again, if this government thinks that
Speaker 1: you know Tuesday night television, speech, breakfast radio and slamming
Speaker 1: social media changes the world. Well months after their last
Speaker 1: budget when remember the two little too late tax carts,
Speaker 1: the power bill twenty five dollars a month thing, seventy
Speaker 1: three percent of Australians said they could name a single
Speaker 1: government initiative that has made them financially better off. Again,
Speaker 1: a little reminder that those who think that the past
Speaker 1: twenty four hours has set a course for a definite
Speaker 1: win or a definite loss, and we all know what's
Speaker 1: going to happen at the election year of god, no idea.
Speaker 1: That's why on the Sunday Night Show, I really love
Speaker 1: getting into that state of the race because we don't
Speaker 1: just talk about the polls or the bookies. We talk
Speaker 1: about the tactics and we also talk about what the
Speaker 1: posters are telling people in those different focus groups. Now,
Speaker 1: those may shift, they may harden, but they have not
Speaker 1: made a decision about which way they are going to go.
Speaker 1: So how inevitable people may think an election result is
Speaker 1: going to be just a little reminder. Even on Budget Night,
Speaker 1: even within an hour of the announcement being made, people
Speaker 1: weren't that impressed by five bucks a week next year?
Speaker 3: Would that make much of a difference to you? Five
Speaker 3: dollars a week? And would it make you vote for Labor.
Speaker 5: In a word?
Speaker 2: No, no, now it would And five dollars no.
Speaker 1: No, not at all.
Speaker 3: Five dollars is nothing.
Speaker 6: It might be a cappuccino or something like that though
Speaker 6: I could save on, but in general probably not.
Speaker 1: No, not really, five dollars a week. No, where's the
Speaker 1: money coming from?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Has he taken from us to give it back to us?
Speaker 1: Now? Again, random sample, not scientific, but it was in
Speaker 1: one of in fact, the government's most margin one of
Speaker 1: the government's most marginal electorates been along the former John
Speaker 1: Howard's seat that is currently held by the Labor Party
Speaker 1: in northwestern Sydney, right in the middle of the mortgage area,
Speaker 1: right in a very cosmopolitan area and also a place
Speaker 1: where the street names are named after the great battles
Speaker 1: that Australia has been involved in from World War One
Speaker 1: all the way through to Vietnam. So there is all
Speaker 1: sorts of demographics inside that. And that's just a random
Speaker 1: sample from people who are in the street walking around
Speaker 1: last night when it comes to the budget. But maybe
Speaker 1: that's just something that a sky News microphone will attract Well,
Speaker 1: what about over in the Channel nine newspapers, Sidney Morning
Speaker 1: How or Brisbane Times and the Age And they spoke
Speaker 1: to a bunch of people. There were a couple of
Speaker 1: people who were kind of excited. But Kathleen, who is
Speaker 1: a small business owner it's Sydney's western suburbs, was not
Speaker 1: impressed by the budget, saying the tax cuts were too
Speaker 1: small and showed the government was out of touch. Mitch
Speaker 1: and Caitlin, who I think are going to end up
Speaker 1: voting labor, but still they said that. Mitch said the
Speaker 1: tax cuts were welcome, but he said he wished the
Speaker 1: governor included more cost of living measures because of course
Speaker 1: five bucks doesn't touch sites. And don't forget, it's not
Speaker 1: this year, it's next year. People are under the pump
Speaker 1: right now and it takes a while for those things
Speaker 1: to come through. I would have liked to see it
Speaker 1: go a little further. Anthony's a bricklayer on the Mornington
Speaker 1: Peninsula in Victoria. He remain concerned about the ballooning debt
Speaker 1: and whether the labor would follow through on the promises
Speaker 1: that it's made again. There were a couple that were
Speaker 1: pro but there were people like Sabrina, who was a
Speaker 1: graphic designer and administration worker. She's thirty three. She lives
Speaker 1: on Say's Lower North Shore. Her feelings were mixed. So
Speaker 1: those that have paid incredible attention know that the only
Speaker 1: number that matters out of this budget is the one
Speaker 1: trillion dollars. The political distraction is the five dollars a
Speaker 1: week that doesn't kick in for another year. So anyone
Speaker 1: who thinks that the election has been won or lost
Speaker 1: by what happened in Cambera this week, you'd need to
Speaker 1: get out more. Okay, And that's from the guy who
Speaker 1: deep dives on the data of the electoral role to
Speaker 1: see the changes seat by seat when it comes to
Speaker 1: gender and age demographics. It's a lovely reminder, so make
Speaker 1: sure you have conversations with people this weekend who you
Speaker 1: know don't know as much about what's happened in Cambera
Speaker 1: this week, because their reactions may shock you, but also
Speaker 1: you might be an opportunity to tell them what you think,
Speaker 1: which might lead them to maybe joining you and agree.
Speaker 1: That's how elections are ultimately won and lost in Australia,
Speaker 1: what our friends and what our family think, not what
Speaker 1: the politicians tell you, or how the media spins the ball.
Speaker 1: I've got plenty on that in a second, but I
Speaker 1: want to turn my attention to what happens next. Last
Speaker 1: night we did ninety minutes about the budget. You can
Speaker 1: find all of that. It's gone news dot com. That
Speaker 1: are you where I get into the details and I
Speaker 1: tell you the five things you need to know. Here's
Speaker 1: the deal. The next little while is important, not just
Speaker 1: because there's the election, but there's a bunch of stuff
Speaker 1: between now and the election, including tomorrow night. The big
Speaker 1: test for Peter Dutton his budget and reply speech. Now
Speaker 1: there will be such pressure put on him by the
Speaker 1: Labor Party that unless he produces one hundred ideas and
Speaker 1: he produces documents as thick as a federal budget, and
Speaker 1: somehow it's all flimsy and a failure. What the reality
Speaker 1: is that Opposition doesn't have the ability to access the
Speaker 1: treasury the same way that the government does. They have
Speaker 1: to do it with a much smaller team. But still
Speaker 1: big ideas have to be expected out of Peter Dutton tomorrow.
Speaker 1: And I've got faith and Peter Dutton to be able
Speaker 1: to deliver some of these. Why because if you've actually
Speaker 1: been paying attention. He's already done it twice in his
Speaker 1: budget and reply speeches. Now, remember Australia has not dumped
Speaker 1: the first term government in what a century. Most likely
Speaker 1: the first term opposition doesn't end up forming the beginnings
Speaker 1: of the team that ends up winning an election. But
Speaker 1: we know how things are razor tight, and in part
Speaker 1: that has been in fact, largely that has been because
Speaker 1: of Peter Dutton's ability to go around the gatekeepers and
Speaker 1: get to big ideas like nuclear energy and also big
Speaker 1: ideas that are very popular with people, so popular that
Speaker 1: the government stole the idea, remember, which was to ban
Speaker 1: foreign investors in the Australian property market for the next
Speaker 1: couple of years. His version, of course, is harsher than
Speaker 1: the government's version, and he knows that we need to
Speaker 1: do something about seriously dealing with the number of people
Speaker 1: who come into the country, because of course it is
Speaker 1: the Ponzi scheme of the federal budget. The more people
Speaker 1: you add, theoretically, the more tax payers you add, theoretically,
Speaker 1: the more tax you can theoretically you get closer towards
Speaker 1: a balanced budget. But as you know, this budget is
Speaker 1: deeply in deficit, as will be next year, the year after,
Speaker 1: the year after, the year after, the year after, the
Speaker 1: year after. The Camera collective is talking about ten years.
Speaker 1: The Intergenerational Report, which I talk about every night, says
Speaker 1: it's to the twenty and sixties that we are in
Speaker 1: this world of pain. But the reality about why you
Speaker 1: have to pump the brakes seriously pump breaks on immigration
Speaker 1: is because there's not enough houses. The infrastructure does not
Speaker 1: match the current population of twenty seven million, let alone
Speaker 1: the inevitable twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty two, thirty five,
Speaker 1: thirty six and forty million people that the big Australia
Speaker 1: crowd want to be Australia in twenty sixty when we're
Speaker 1: still running budget deficits. So watch this space. We'll have
Speaker 1: full reaction to everything that happens tomorrow night. The speech
Speaker 1: happens live same time as the Treasurer seven thirty camera
Speaker 1: time and full analysis with us at nine o'clock about
Speaker 1: those big ideas. Again, just like the budget, one night
Speaker 1: does not change every thing, but it will shape the
Speaker 1: fight because increasingly you've got to put the meat on
Speaker 1: the table earlier than normal because half the electric votes.
Speaker 1: Remember before actual election day, we will be with the
Speaker 1: opposition leader, the alternaty Prime Minister Monday taking questions from
Speaker 1: the viewers of this program. We've got a very full
Speaker 1: pub in his electric in Dixon and a lot of
Speaker 1: very smart people wanting to ask very direct questions. They
Speaker 1: will have plenty more. I have no doubt after tomorrow
Speaker 1: night and the budget in reply. But after the Peter
Speaker 1: Dunton's speech, the expectation is that the Prime Minister is
Speaker 1: going to go to the Governor General and call the election. Now,
Speaker 1: this could happen as early as Friday. That was what
Speaker 1: Philip Query was suggesting in the Financial Review. That would
Speaker 1: be unorthodox because generally speaking, you don't call an election
Speaker 1: on anything but a Sunday. Why because traditionally that has
Speaker 1: been the biggest TV night for the six pm News.
Speaker 1: But it's a very different world now. So just wanting
Speaker 1: to start the starter's gun means if nothing else, he's
Speaker 1: able to have a bigger subject to talk about them
Speaker 1: whatever Peter doudn't puts on the table tomorrow, But that
Speaker 1: may be delayed by a week, It may be delayed
Speaker 1: by two weeks. We are now down to three potential
Speaker 1: election dates. One of them is absolutely the last possible date.
Speaker 1: Because the parliament is done, the full term is done
Speaker 1: by May the seventeenth, he must have an election before then.
Speaker 1: So will it be the third of May, will be
Speaker 1: the tenth of May? Will it be the seventeenth of May.
Speaker 1: And I know that there's something happening on each of
Speaker 1: these days. It could be a rugby league. I think
Speaker 1: something magic round on one of these days. There's obviously
Speaker 1: always a religious holiday. The point is people vote early.
Speaker 1: Half of four people will vote like two weeks before
Speaker 1: the actual election day. So the actual date and those
Speaker 1: that say you can't do that date because of this,
Speaker 1: this and this, that doesn't matter as much as it
Speaker 1: used to. But also looking forward, and that's what we're
Speaker 1: going to try to do here, to try to not
Speaker 1: hold your hand, but tell you about what's coming up
Speaker 1: and around the corner, so nothing is a surprise. There
Speaker 1: are two mass dates that happen between now and any
Speaker 1: of those election dates. The first Reserve Bank Board meeting
Speaker 1: that is due to happen on Monday, upcoming Monday. The
Speaker 1: announcement of whether they hold rates or drop rates, Well,
Speaker 1: that could well happen, and a second rate cup will
Speaker 1: obviously be interpreted as good for the Arbenezi government. Again,
Speaker 1: I think when you've had twelve increases to reductions are
Speaker 1: not going to result in again huge amounts of money.
Speaker 1: They're going to change people's fortunes, but it'll feed into
Speaker 1: the narrative of the government that everything is behind us,
Speaker 1: that the worst is behind us. The second and perhaps
Speaker 1: more important date happens the following day, next Tuesday or
Speaker 1: Wednesday as straight in time, but Tuesday in the United States,
Speaker 1: and that is the second of April where Donald Trump
Speaker 1: will make his next round of tariff announcements. Now apparently
Speaker 1: there are going to be some exemptions for some countries,
Speaker 1: some industry, so hopefully Australia falls into that category. And
Speaker 1: as much as I can't stand Kevin Rudd, the fielding's
Speaker 1: mutual and I'm not going to vote for the Prime Minister,
Speaker 1: and fairly would be mutual if I ever put my
Speaker 1: name on a ballot. Not going to happen. But as
Speaker 1: I've said before, even though I'm somebody who's on the
Speaker 1: Trump train, got the red hat, listen to Steve Bannon,
Speaker 1: I'm completely across all things Maga, mahar and all in between.
Speaker 1: I know the difference between dark Maga Ultramaga all of that,
Speaker 1: but the majority of Australians don't have a positive view
Speaker 1: of President Trump. So Anthony Abernezi would love nothing more than,
Speaker 1: in the first week of an election campaign, if you
Speaker 1: can't get the interest rate cut well, to be able
Speaker 1: to get into some sort of verbal fight with a
Speaker 1: president who, yes, you'll have to deal with for the
Speaker 1: next three years, but ultimately he would love that as
Speaker 1: the giant distraction. These are the things that can change
Speaker 1: the subject. And from any center left politicians who have
Speaker 1: had really bad political fortunes because they have been in
Speaker 1: charge of countries with horrible cost of living situations, their
Speaker 1: numbers have spiked when they end up in a verbal stoush.
Speaker 1: So tomorrow night you get Dutton's supply speech, maybe as
Speaker 1: early as Friday, we get an election. On Monday, we'll
Speaker 1: find out whether the interest rates are going to drop,
Speaker 1: and then on Tuesday or Wednesday we will find out
Speaker 1: whether we're going to be further into issues when it
Speaker 1: comes to tariff with Donald Trump. All of those things
Speaker 1: are going to be much more consequential in terms of
Speaker 1: how the politics works, what the conversations are around the
Speaker 1: kitchen table, Because I would pretty much guarantee that most
Speaker 1: of those people who knew nothing about the budget certainly
Speaker 1: know something about Donald Trump. But one thing that has
Speaker 1: absolutely changed, and I told you, I'll tell you when
Speaker 1: it happened. The book is are now backing Labor as
Speaker 1: the favorite for this election. So now what we are
Speaker 1: going to be talking about is a most likely outcome
Speaker 1: that Labour gets returned. Now, all suggestions would be that
Speaker 1: it would be in a minority. How big that number
Speaker 1: of cross benches are, who the Prime Minister would need
Speaker 1: to hold on to power, Well, that will be the
Speaker 1: difference between whether it's going to be relatively stable or
Speaker 1: total train wreck. Just two weeks ago, the Libs were
Speaker 1: in front by some margin. Weeks ago, the Labor Party
Speaker 1: was paying closer to three dollars than one dollar. Now
Speaker 1: they're closer to one dollar than two. Well, actually they're
Speaker 1: closer to two, but you get my point. Now, there
Speaker 1: is in my view, only one number that truly will
Speaker 1: live forever out of this federal budget. And I don't
Speaker 1: care how it goes down with the media. I care
Speaker 1: about how it goes down with you, me and future generations.
Speaker 1: One trillion dollars in debt in this next financial year.
Speaker 1: That is how much the Australian federal government will go
Speaker 1: to the rest of the world. That works out at
Speaker 1: for a baby born yesterday and a person who will
Speaker 1: die tomorrow, thirty six thousand, six hundred and seventeen dollars
Speaker 1: per person. That number goes up to one hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy five thousand dollars for every person who is under
Speaker 1: the age of eighteen. That number is a disgrace. As
Speaker 1: I said, the battle of this budget is going to
Speaker 1: be will you remember five dollars in a year's time?
Speaker 1: You remember are trillion dollars now. But let's talk about
Speaker 1: how the media focused in and around this budget after
Speaker 1: being locked up for hours and wanting to do their
Speaker 1: best to continue the narrative that things are looking better
Speaker 1: for the government, so much so that the bookies now
Speaker 1: have them as the favorites. So what did they focus on.
Speaker 1: Did they focus on five dollars in a year's time
Speaker 1: or are trillion dollars that Australia has to pay back sometime?
Speaker 6: Big headline that those surprise tax carts benefiting twelve million workers.
Speaker 6: More tax cuts for all two stages up to five
Speaker 6: hundred and thirty six dollars a year.
Speaker 3: A tax cut. This is a pretty straight up and
Speaker 3: down sweetener.
Speaker 8: It's worth five hundred and thirty six dollars a year
Speaker 8: for the average worker.
Speaker 1: Again, go the biggest number. Don't worry about going to
Speaker 1: find people who truly need this sort of stuff lower
Speaker 1: income tax owners. Forget dividing it by a month, forget
Speaker 1: even dividing it by a week. But of course people
Speaker 1: get paid weekly, fortnightly, monthly. They don't end up getting
Speaker 1: paid annually. But there's one reporter in particular that it
Speaker 1: won't be surprising. Did everything they good to try to
Speaker 1: hide the one trillion dollar number. Now, that is an
Speaker 1: extraordinary number. It's an extraordinary number that you would think
Speaker 1: would be worth mentioning. But no left Laura Tingle Well,
Speaker 1: she of course had her opportunity to sit there for
Speaker 1: a few hours and write a little thing before THEBC
Speaker 1: coverage last night, and this was her coverage when it
Speaker 1: came to the budget. Put simply, the Labor Party could
Speaker 1: have written this themselves. This is straight down the middle analysis.
Speaker 9: There is a much more confident tone to the Treasurer's
Speaker 9: language and the budget forecasts than we have seen in
Speaker 9: some time. The lurking fear that a recession is not
Speaker 9: far away has disappeared. In dollar terms, that means growth
Speaker 9: in the economy is forecast to add thirty six point
Speaker 9: four billion dollars to the budget, which will in turn
Speaker 9: fund thirty four point eight billion dollars of policy decisions
Speaker 9: outline tonight. That is, the government strategy has worked. The
Speaker 9: seventeen billion dollar tax cuts announced in the budget, which
Speaker 9: had not been expected, will give angry voters, particularly those
Speaker 9: who have been disillusioned and disengaged, a reason to at
Speaker 9: least pay a little more attention. The forecasts suggest, if
Speaker 9: not some this uplands a slightly kinder economy in the
Speaker 9: next year or two, in which people will enjoy lower
Speaker 9: interest rates more disposable income. The government scores pretty well
Speaker 9: in this budget. The budget gives the government an alibi
Speaker 9: for most issues going into the election campaign, which will
Speaker 9: make the coalition's critiques of its strategy look somewhat pallid.
Speaker 1: Not one mention of a trillion dollars debt, not one
Speaker 1: mention of it. Of course, there was plenty of critiques
Speaker 1: for the Liberal Party, but of course, the difference between me,
Speaker 1: the dirty opinion man, and her the award winning reporter
Speaker 1: is what.
Speaker 9: Once the government has their attention, it can point to
Speaker 9: the other cost of living measures it has been rolling out,
Speaker 9: including energy relief, many care bolt billing, and cutting pharmaceutical prices,
Speaker 9: and once again it can point out the coalition's past
Speaker 9: opposition to many of those measures. The budget gives the
Speaker 9: government an alibi for most issues going into the election campaign,
Speaker 9: which will make the coalition's critiques of its strategy look
Speaker 9: somewhat pallid. Higher migration is already a target of the
Speaker 9: Coalition and this forecast is likely to be an easy
Speaker 9: point of attack as it considers how it responds to
Speaker 9: this budget and to alls us what it says it
Speaker 9: will do.
Speaker 1: Seriously, again, this is straight down the middle reporting just
Speaker 1: nothing but polish for the Labor Party, nothing but polish.
Speaker 1: No reference to a trillion dollars, no one grabbing the
Speaker 1: calculator to work out how much that is for every individual.
Speaker 1: No focus on the budget deficits, which of course leads
Speaker 1: to the overall picture when it comes to debt. Are
Speaker 1: you surprised? This is what I talk about when I
Speaker 1: talk about the home team advantage of the Labor Party
Speaker 1: for much of the Camper press gallery. Now there are exceptions,
Speaker 1: and I apologize to those people of whom sometimes they
Speaker 1: get painted with the very broad brush. But the extreme
Speaker 1: majority of people who will be reporting on this election
Speaker 1: want Labor to win. You can tell that because they
Speaker 1: had an opportunity last night to choose between five dollars
Speaker 1: in a year's time or a trillion dollars in debt
Speaker 1: that will rack up this year. Thankfully there was an
Speaker 1: example of somebody who was willing to take it right
Speaker 1: up to the treasurer and well done to my mate
Speaker 1: Andrew Clanel. But I'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 1: But first, Jim Charmas, just how much money will the
Speaker 1: Australian Federal government of you as the Treasurer owe to
Speaker 1: the rest of the world.
Speaker 6: Trillion dollars, trillion dollars, trillion dollars, trillion dollars, billion dollars.
Speaker 1: And what did you say when you thought it was
Speaker 1: the Liberal Party who predicted that, years after they were
Speaker 1: in off, we would get to this number.
Speaker 6: This is a prime minister with a budget the trillion
Speaker 6: dollars in debt and not enough to show for it,
Speaker 6: because it's absolutely riddled with roughts and riddled with waste
Speaker 6: and mismanagement. He's got a record of weak economic growth,
Speaker 6: stagnant wages week, business investment week, productivity right across the board.
Speaker 1: As I say, Andrew Clanel, he confronted the Treasurer with
Speaker 1: five dollars and that piece of footage is going to
Speaker 1: last for a very long period of time. And you
Speaker 1: could tell Jim Charms isn't then you're liking it. But
Speaker 1: good Andrew gone on Andrew for pointing that out, because
Speaker 1: it was again the central fallacy, the bribe, the BS
Speaker 1: to distract from the real story, the trillion dollar story,
Speaker 1: the decades and decades and decades of budget deficits to come.
Speaker 1: Wellandrew is famous for the questions that he asks at
Speaker 1: press conferences, and there was a big one today with
Speaker 1: the Treasurer inside the Great Hall of Parliament House.
Speaker 7: A budget that delivers generational debt without the generation dividend,
Speaker 7: a tree and dollars in debt and growing deficits as
Speaker 7: far as the eye can see, but barely anything else
Speaker 7: designed to survive beyond the election. And that's the biggest
Speaker 7: risk in this budget. Instead of laying out an economic vision,
Speaker 7: the government focuses on managing political perception. Both of those
Speaker 7: were said by Jim Chalmers in May twenty twenty one.
Speaker 7: You've just delivered a budget which forecasts a decade of deficits,
Speaker 7: a tree and dollars debt, the next four deficits of
Speaker 7: one hundred and seventy nine bon dollars. My question, treasurer,
Speaker 7: is do you feel like a hypocrite today?
Speaker 1: Metal stump, metal style after the Pavilion no review. Now
Speaker 1: you would think that somebody would be mildly, mildly chasing
Speaker 1: by their own words being repeated right back to them.
Speaker 1: But of course Jim Chalmers, well this was his answer
Speaker 1: to the question.
Speaker 6: No, of course not, because central to the budget last
Speaker 6: night was an economic vision for the long term. Building
Speaker 6: Australia's future was a key element of the budget.
Speaker 1: A repeat the middle stump is still spinning behind the wicket,
Speaker 1: making its way towards the fence. That's how out and
Speaker 1: bowled out he was by that question. But oh, we
Speaker 1: just practiced the pivot. Practice the pivot right and now
Speaker 1: might be charming when it comes to Generald Trump, and
Speaker 1: it is disgraceful when it comes to this blog because
Speaker 1: he paraded to something else. They paraded at the last
Speaker 1: election as the people who would do something about cost
Speaker 1: of living instead, cost of living went through the roof.
Speaker 1: In their first budget, they took fifteen hundred dollars off
Speaker 1: ten million workers with a load of middle income tax
Speaker 1: offset are guaranteed fifteen one hundred dollars tax return for
Speaker 1: ten million workers, only to say, well, twenty five dollars
Speaker 1: a month when it comes to power bill, five dollars
Speaker 1: when it comes to a tax return in a year's time,
Speaker 1: or the ones that they want to add them to
Speaker 1: like last year were twelve dollars twelve dollars a week
Speaker 1: for people earning forty thousand dollars. They spend more money
Speaker 1: on government advertising about the politics of what they are doing,
Speaker 1: rather than spending on things like making sure that we
Speaker 1: can feed the more than three point seven midion households,
Speaker 1: and that's people households that don't know where the food's
Speaker 1: going to come from for the rest of the week.
Speaker 1: There was nothing in the budget to discuss anything about
Speaker 1: the almost three million people that are this close to
Speaker 1: homelessness and small business will it got bashed around the head.
Speaker 1: One of the very few things that small business has
Speaker 1: been able to rely upon over the past few years
Speaker 1: is I think called the instant asset right off, meaning
Speaker 1: that if you buy something for your business, you can
Speaker 1: write it off against your tax. At the height of
Speaker 1: the pandemic, you were able to do this too, up
Speaker 1: to one hundred thousand dollars. It meant that people were
Speaker 1: able to buy a car, claim it or go off
Speaker 1: their tax, and that if all you do is drive
Speaker 1: around in new ute, that's really important. Then went back
Speaker 1: to twenty thousand dollars and under this budget there is
Speaker 1: no reference to it going forward into the future. And
Speaker 1: just on that trillion dollar figure that Jim Chalmers now
Speaker 1: has to wear around his neck, not as like a
Speaker 1: gold medal like the bloke he used to work for.
Speaker 1: Wayne Swan is the world's greatest treasurer, but the bloke
Speaker 1: who took us into the trillion dollar black hole. Even
Speaker 1: when he was confronted with his own words, even after
Speaker 1: he did the pivot, he still found a way to
Speaker 1: blame the Liberals.
Speaker 6: Their budget was weighed down by waste and roads and
Speaker 6: missed opportunities. And what we've done is we've invested in
Speaker 6: the future of this country, building more homes, investing in
Speaker 6: lifelong learning, strengthening Medicare, and these are legacy items that
Speaker 6: we will leave behind whenever we finish up in this place.
Speaker 1: Now, one other little thing that I do want to
Speaker 1: talk about, which is the changing way in which people
Speaker 1: get their information. I talked a lot about how the
Speaker 1: Internet played the role that it has increasingly in elections,
Speaker 1: but in the American election, things like podcasters' influences was
Speaker 1: really powerful for Donald Trump because in much of that
Speaker 1: ecosystem in the United States, it now is either leaning
Speaker 1: towards freedom, libertarianism, conservatism, but basically just leaning towards the right.
Speaker 1: It's also particularly focused and very popular with young men
Speaker 1: as the major way that they stay informed about the
Speaker 1: rest of the world. And for those of us who
Speaker 1: like to think we're still young, we still try to
Speaker 1: connect via many of these pieces of information on top
Speaker 1: of everything else that we watch and read. Well, last night,
Speaker 1: there were a bunch of people who were very fresh
Speaker 1: to the budget process, and these were influencers. These were
Speaker 1: people who maybe don't always talk about politics, but Stotomson's
Speaker 1: talk about politics. But if nothing else, have got hundreds
Speaker 1: of thousands and they probably millions of people who follow
Speaker 1: them on social media. Now, whether that's all real people
Speaker 1: or some bots. But the point is they were there
Speaker 1: and they were paid to get there by the Labor Party.
Speaker 1: The Labor Party itself was paying for many of these
Speaker 1: people to travel from around the country to get to
Speaker 1: the budget. Now, if I wanted to go there to
Speaker 1: on it, it wouldn't be the Labor Party to be
Speaker 1: paying for it, of course, it would be by myself,
Speaker 1: for of course, the company of which I work. So
Speaker 1: how did the gold treatment go for the influencers who
Speaker 1: generally in this country lean to the left. Well, he's
Speaker 1: part of their budget coverage.
Speaker 8: What gives you hope?
Speaker 2: You know better than anyone in Australia right now. What
Speaker 2: gives you hope for the next generation?
Speaker 1: Not just as a politician but as a person.
Speaker 3: I'm the mistic.
Speaker 2: Would the tax brackets be indexed?
Speaker 6: I've seen that being spoken about a lot more recently.
Speaker 2: And I get a signature, I'll try to They keep
Speaker 2: Jim away from us.
Speaker 1: No mortals.
Speaker 2: No, he's pretty keen, I think so.
Speaker 10: No.
Speaker 1: I am not nervous at all.
Speaker 6: I do not have imposter syndrome.
Speaker 1: I am not scared of Anthony Alberinizia. The only thing
Speaker 1: I am scared of is disappointing all of you. But
Speaker 1: even while some of this was a little bit cringe,
Speaker 1: it's not as much cringe as the stuff that the
Speaker 1: taxpayer paid for, not even the Labor Party. Because remember
Speaker 1: every MP got an extra staffer during this government. This
Speaker 1: is on top of the three pay rises that everyone
Speaker 1: in the Federal Parliament has received since the last election.
Speaker 1: And that person's job is to do social media for
Speaker 1: their bosses, that being ministers or MPs and for those
Speaker 1: that are doing it on the labor side. I repeat, cringe.
Speaker 10: More tax cuts building on what we've already delivered, more
Speaker 10: energy relief, building on what we've already delivered.
Speaker 2: We're getting a tax cut for every single tax payout,
Speaker 2: which by the way, Peter Dunn has already opposed.
Speaker 4: Here's how much you'll save on your student debt.
Speaker 3: This my beard, I can you get like a row
Speaker 3: game for bids?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: GPA, But that's not the big story. The big story
Speaker 3: is this.
Speaker 1: I love you, and I prefer the beard. Ple need
Speaker 1: to talk about tonight with Brober, Bishop Stephen Conroy or
Speaker 1: killer No fillow Meghan Kelly to finish us off tonight.
Speaker 1: We are in for a big one. Thank you for watching.
Speaker 1: It is the start of a very big week, a
Speaker 1: very big u the biggest time, which is election season
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Speaker 1: Bishop carry out a champ on Wednesday. Jeezy thinks he
Speaker 1: gets close, but he's always just that one shot behind
Speaker 1: Stephen Conry, who's here to help every time. I love it.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into this, okay. Now, first questions. First,
Speaker 1: does a trillion dollars in debt matter Bromwin Bishop, because
Speaker 1: to me that's the number out of the budget that
Speaker 1: I remember, not five dollars in a year's time.
Speaker 10: Of course it matters, and it matters for two reasons.
Speaker 10: One the sheer size of the debt, but more particularly,
Speaker 10: the snake Charmer spent how many months, how many years
Speaker 10: saying it he had inherited at trillion dollars of debt
Speaker 10: when he had not correct The fact of the matter
Speaker 10: is he is very loose with the truth. That's why
Speaker 10: I caught him the snake charmer. It's all illusion, it's
Speaker 10: all loose with the truth. It's like, for instance, he
Speaker 10: said today four out of every five jobs was created
Speaker 10: in the private sector. Ask the question, how do you
Speaker 10: find the private sector? Well, it includes the NDAs.
Speaker 1: Of course it does.
Speaker 3: It includes age can of course, it.
Speaker 10: Does care all supported by the public sect. So everything
Speaker 10: he does, it's slippery, it's slimy. And that was so
Speaker 10: evident in his presentation today. So years, one trillion dollars
Speaker 10: does matter. This is his work being delivered to the
Speaker 10: Australian paeople.
Speaker 1: Now, Steven, no one's pretending that it was zero dollars
Speaker 1: three years ago. It was close. But he said a trillion,
Speaker 1: tri trillly, not triullly, no trillion a thousand times as
Speaker 1: a way of bashing the previous government. Well he's the
Speaker 1: one that it's going to be racked up. Does a
Speaker 1: trillion dollars matter? Which I says, Look, it does, maybe
Speaker 1: do you and me, but not to the normal folks.
Speaker 5: Well, I think the public general public tend to discount
Speaker 5: the sort of what they were superbole of trillion dollars
Speaker 5: and whether it matters or not, and the debate. But
Speaker 5: I mean, I just I'm sorry, Broman, I've really got
Speaker 5: a strongly disagree with you on this.
Speaker 3: What was forecast?
Speaker 1: What was four?
Speaker 5: Well, all of it, like your characterization, just stop it.
Speaker 8: And it was going to hit a trillia your own
Speaker 8: forecast that you're talking about in your own documents, no
Speaker 8: budget documents. So you don't get to pretend that the
Speaker 8: Liberal Party aren't respond, but get to pretend.
Speaker 10: He didn't, he didn't get them billion dollar It didn't happen.
Speaker 8: Now you know what going to what side of politics
Speaker 8: is trying to.
Speaker 3: Get out of the economy.
Speaker 10: Stop your side of politics is trying to get out
Speaker 10: of saying they broke a promise with the two hundred
Speaker 10: and seventy five dollars pardon me, listen of electricity bills
Speaker 10: and the reason they said was well, our modeling was
Speaker 10: a bit out of date. Then, I mean, what sort
Speaker 10: of excuse do you think you can run on that line?
Speaker 10: And then when the dead was in fact eight hundred
Speaker 10: and ninety billion dollars, not a trillion.
Speaker 1: Dollars heading a trillion heading to a trillo in three years,
Speaker 1: it's going to find more than one hundred billion in.
Speaker 5: The rules, and we have reduced the amount of payments
Speaker 5: by nearly seventy billion dollars where it was going to be. Okay,
Speaker 5: we'll have Paul picking numbers randomly that are large to
Speaker 5: try and.
Speaker 3: Scare people with. Is the last charlatan?
Speaker 1: Which so when Jim Charmers, When Jim Charmers did it
Speaker 1: over and over and over and over again, official official
Speaker 1: character references economic charlatan of Jim Charmers.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying that commentators who are trying to pretend
Speaker 5: commentators who are trying to pretend, but this number didn't exist,
Speaker 5: and that the Liberal Party weren't responsible for it.
Speaker 3: I just absolutely got bread with no clothes.
Speaker 5: Oh so the government weren't well, I said, wasn't responsible
Speaker 5: for it.
Speaker 1: Well, well, remember Jim Chalmers probably got us to a
Speaker 1: treat in earlier because maybe wanted to do things like
Speaker 1: bi Virgin Airlines wanted to extend We all know the
Speaker 1: pandemic was the supercharge right However, and again, even in
Speaker 1: the introduction to the segment, I said it didn't start
Speaker 1: it a zero. At the start of the term, I
Speaker 1: didn't talk about it, and I've talked about the structural
Speaker 1: beneficence for years.
Speaker 3: Right, it wasn't going to head a trillion dollars.
Speaker 1: Well, whoever had inherited that day is the person who
Speaker 1: gets the title. Right. If it was Friedenberg delivering the
Speaker 1: budget three years later, you know what I would have
Speaker 1: talked about, are trillion dollars in debt? Why because I
Speaker 1: talked about it for fifteen years that government did is outrageous.
Speaker 1: That's always been one of my I'm a hawk on
Speaker 1: that stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're an economic flat earth are on that subport. Yes,
Speaker 5: if you wanted to deal and just slash that number,
Speaker 5: you would be responsible, just like the Reserve Bank would
Speaker 5: be responsible for its driving the economy into recession.
Speaker 3: Six?
Speaker 5: Or is their choices the choices you get to make.
Speaker 5: A government gets to make choice charm and the choice
Speaker 5: here is that we'll manage the debt problem, but we're
Speaker 5: not going to put two hundred thousand people like Michelle.
Speaker 10: The amount of money that they have wasted.
Speaker 1: Onto that I now have a role in the Australian
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it all right. One of
Speaker 1: the joys of being that the observer not the participant,
Speaker 1: is that you get to be the observer, not the participant. Okay, Now,
Speaker 1: I do want to ask another question, which is a
Speaker 1: little one that I didn't give you guys heads up on,
Speaker 1: But it's this question about a off budget right now?
Speaker 1: Off budget is now you know, we know tens of
Speaker 1: billings are added to it the way our stuff has
Speaker 1: been added to it all the rest. Can I just ask,
Speaker 1: like if possible, Stephen thirty second explanation rather than is
Speaker 1: it big? Is it low? Right? Do you have to
Speaker 1: pay off off budget the same way you on budget?
Speaker 1: Is it essentially a separate credit card? Is it the
Speaker 1: same credit card? Because obviously how does that work?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 5: To be off budget, you have to meet certain criteria
Speaker 5: set by the a statistician Ustrunting Bureau Statistics. Now, Paul,
Speaker 5: you will remember that I may have had some understanding.
Speaker 5: It's because the National Broadband Network was off budget.
Speaker 3: Okay, because the.
Speaker 5: National before Malcolm Turnbull advertaged no no, there's there's a difference.
Speaker 5: That there's a difference between the on budget stuff and
Speaker 5: the classification that comes because you will get your money
Speaker 5: back the investments.
Speaker 3: Now, before you jump into before you jump into discussion.
Speaker 5: About as you no, no that gensually was you read
Speaker 5: my press release that I do remember, okay, But the
Speaker 5: statistician determines that something can can be off budget providing
Speaker 5: it's going to make a return at some point, whether
Speaker 5: it's return by being sold or returned by the income
Speaker 5: that it generates.
Speaker 3: So that is that is what keeps something on off budget.
Speaker 5: Now, the person you voted for problem when nostroy the economics.
Speaker 10: On that definition as Stephen has given us, how do
Speaker 10: we classify the three billion dollars extra extra being kicked
Speaker 10: into your grand n b N.
Speaker 5: It's a it's the money needed to repair the massive
Speaker 5: hole in the final The person who you're going to
Speaker 5: make prime minister, Malcolm Turnbull, your candidate for prime minister,
Speaker 5: destroyed the economic.
Speaker 3: Is this of the National Broadband Network? The basis is repaired,
Speaker 3: the NBM is.
Speaker 10: Never going to make a profit ever. And your Treasurer.
Speaker 5: Turbull starts your candidates for language voted for him, has
Speaker 5: not Malcolm Turnbull after he wrecked national network.
Speaker 10: Stephen, you're talking through your hat.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 10: The bottom line is this that it is a to
Speaker 10: be an investment. But your snake charmer, Treasurer Land, which
Speaker 10: he always says that when it's an expenditure, he now
Speaker 10: calls it an investment.
Speaker 2: When it's spending.
Speaker 10: But that's what off budget is supposed to be.
Speaker 1: All right, Can we all end on something we're all
Speaker 1: going to agree on, which is jeez, it was a
Speaker 1: cold night in the Ryan household a couple of days
Speaker 1: ago when mister Monigue Ryan was pulling down the sign
Speaker 1: and she puts out, you know three words in a
Speaker 1: press release. Well somebody had the guts to go and
Speaker 1: put a camera in her face and say okay, thanks good,
Speaker 1: we're now going to talk to you. Amazingly, she wasn't
Speaker 1: found in some mysterious little part of Parliament House. She
Speaker 1: was attending a press conference and have a look what happened.
Speaker 1: When Channel seven decided to follow up, Can I ask you.
Speaker 6: What do you think of your husband's decision to remove
Speaker 6: the Liberal candidates signing cou on.
Speaker 4: I don't have a comment for you comment on that
Speaker 4: matter already?
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 2: Do you think that was an appropriate thing to do?
Speaker 4: Could you please get your cameras away from me?
Speaker 2: The tel MP today faced a barrage of questions in
Speaker 2: Canberra of comment on the matter.
Speaker 1: Thinking doesn't she want to be Prime minister one day?
Speaker 1: There are going to be cameras in her face. What
Speaker 1: a week? What an own goal from.
Speaker 10: One that can cost her the election?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Absolutely, absolutely absolutely, And I can recall somebody else's husband
Speaker 10: who handed out improper material.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Western Sydney, cross that.
Speaker 10: Person to seat. So there is president and the arrogance
Speaker 10: and the lack of all things she reckoned. She was about,
Speaker 10: you know, transparency, integrity, ethics. I think she thinks ethics
Speaker 10: is that small town in England.
Speaker 1: Give me fifteen seconds a bumper sticker on it, Steven,
Speaker 1: have you seen a bigger own goal in recent years?
Speaker 5: I'm just a couple of how dumbines to try and
Speaker 5: steal a sign in broad daylights. You've tread the young
Speaker 5: libs and the young lad people Runner Mark and c.
Speaker 3: It's all embarrassed mud. It's usually in the dead cold
Speaker 3: of knights, but broad right, seriously, that tugs class.
Speaker 1: It's because of climate change. Climate change has changed everything,
Speaker 1: including when it's the right under young Danna sign. Thank
Speaker 1: you guys, we'll talk again, especially if this election is called.
Speaker 1: We'll get even deeper into things next week. Thank you.
Speaker 1: All right. The Great Meghan Kelly joins us in moments
Speaker 1: from now. Thanks for watching back in a second, our
Speaker 1: favorite time of the week to talk to our favorite
Speaker 1: person in the world, the wonderful Meghan Kelly, exclusive to
Speaker 1: Paul Burray Live, and she's back from the Bahamas.
Speaker 2: Baby, it was amazing. Highly recommend Well, you look.
Speaker 1: At million Bucks as you always do. Now, let's not
Speaker 1: quite go to politics right off the bat. Instead, I
Speaker 1: want to go to one of your favorite people and mine,
Speaker 1: George Clooney. Now, this blug is so far up his
Speaker 1: own backside it isn't funny. And he I think wrote
Speaker 1: and directed a film a long time ago about a
Speaker 1: legendary American journalist, Edward R. Murrow. He's now turned it
Speaker 1: into a plant. He's performing in the play. And is
Speaker 1: it true that at the end of the play he
Speaker 1: turns around and just starts lecturing the audience.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he's got a lecture for the press in
Speaker 2: this very difficult era. You know, you might say democracy
Speaker 2: dies in darkness. Is the thrust of his message about
Speaker 2: how the media really needs to step up and not
Speaker 2: abandon its core ideals now more than ever. And he
Speaker 2: thinks he's in a position to lecture us. Yes, because
Speaker 2: he played a journalist on TV or on the big
Speaker 2: screen in a very silly movie called One Fine Day
Speaker 2: where he was across from Michelle Pfeiffer. She was really
Speaker 2: more the star, and he played a reporter for the
Speaker 2: New York Daily News that was thirty years ago. I
Speaker 2: guess he thinks it makes him into an actual journalist
Speaker 2: or you know, editor of a newsroom, which he's not.
Speaker 2: And he goes on sixty minutes to promote this thing,
Speaker 2: and they ask him about his truth to power op
Speaker 2: ed that he did in the New York Times when
Speaker 2: Biden was dangling by a thread and George Glooney stepped
Speaker 2: in to cut it. And this is presented to us
Speaker 2: now as an exercise and true courage, true truth telling.
Speaker 2: And really it took a lot, you know. They got
Speaker 2: into like what made him do it? Like how did
Speaker 2: he have it in him to write that op ed?
Speaker 2: And the answer was, well, I was raised to value
Speaker 2: the truth. I was raised to tell the truth, not lies.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people in my party were telling lies.
Speaker 4: Happy you did it, Yeah, I'll make it kind of easy.
Speaker 4: I was raised to tell the truth. I had seen
Speaker 4: the president up close for this fundraiser, and I was surprised,
Speaker 4: and so I feel as if there was a lot
Speaker 4: of profiles and cowardice in my party through all of that,
Speaker 4: and I was not proud of that. And I also
Speaker 4: believed I had to tell the truth.
Speaker 2: Now. To say this is revision history would miss the
Speaker 2: entire plot.
Speaker 3: Paul.
Speaker 2: He had that fundraiser for Joe Biden on June fifteenth
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four, where Joe Biden could barely stand
Speaker 2: up on the stage. Obama had to rescue him, physically
Speaker 2: rescue him. We reported on it, We talked about in
Speaker 2: this show. Everybody was talking about it. Who wasn't owned
Speaker 2: by the Dems and called purveyors of misinformation. This is
Speaker 2: why we were accused of deep fakes, cheap fakes by
Speaker 2: the administration, a line parroted around the media cycles. George
Speaker 2: Cliney said nothing. Did he come out and say, no,
Speaker 2: all those reporters and those media folks who are saying, look,
Speaker 2: he looks like he's really having some infirmity problems are
Speaker 2: onto something. I've got to be honest. You know what
Speaker 2: I saw dovetails with that perfectly and we need to
Speaker 2: talk about it. Did he anonymously go to some reporter
Speaker 2: to say, please print the real story about what happened
Speaker 2: at that at that fundraiser. No, he did none of that.
Speaker 2: What actually happened was June twenty seventh came and they
Speaker 2: had the presidential debate in which Biden self immolated and
Speaker 2: ruined any future chances of remaining the nominee, which I
Speaker 2: said that night. As you may remember, it was very
Speaker 2: obvious that he could not go forward, and yet Biden
Speaker 2: hung on because he just was stubborn. He would not leave.
Speaker 2: The whole party was in meltdown. The polls came in
Speaker 2: showing he couldn't win, there was no chance he could win,
Speaker 2: and that Kamala wouldn't win either. That's what the Democrats
Speaker 2: were looking at. And it was only at that point
Speaker 2: that George Clooney, midway into July, now a full month
Speaker 2: after he had hosted that fundraiser, wrote the op ed
Speaker 2: because at that point he realized the Democrats' chances depended
Speaker 2: on it. And now, with the help of CBS News,
Speaker 2: in sixty minutes, it's all rewritten and gift wrapped into
Speaker 2: I was raised to tell the truth and we need
Speaker 2: more courageous people like me in my party and in
Speaker 2: the media. Thank you, and you know sold right. The
Speaker 2: bill of goods sold.
Speaker 1: Bloody oath, and one last one here is I want
Speaker 1: to go through yet again a revelation to the left
Speaker 1: that young men are growing more conservative. It doesn't surprise me,
Speaker 1: it doesn't surprise you. But I love that it surprises
Speaker 1: the left that there's only so far you can push
Speaker 1: these blokes before eventually they give you the proverbial middle finger.
Speaker 2: They're too late. In the news today is a story
Speaker 2: about how now certain governors, the governor of Maryland, who's
Speaker 2: a favorite on the dem side to possibly be a
Speaker 2: possible nominee in twenty eight the governor of Connecticut who
Speaker 2: won't be, the governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer, who is
Speaker 2: also on the short list. They're starting these initiatives to
Speaker 2: help young men, like just sort of prioritize young men.
Speaker 2: That's not it. First of all, the guy in Maryland,
Speaker 2: it's all about like city kids. Okay, well, that's a
Speaker 2: different problem. Like kids who grow up in the hood
Speaker 2: who don't have opportunity. That's different. That's not about the
Speaker 2: young men. That's about growing up poor with no advantages
Speaker 2: surrounded by crime, which is a different problem needs to
Speaker 2: be solved. They don't know what they're doing. They don't
Speaker 2: understand why they've lost them, Paul. They don't understand that
Speaker 2: it's everything they've made their party about, Like it's you
Speaker 2: have to redo everything. The guy in Connecticut, Ned Lamont,
Speaker 2: was like, I'm expanding DEI to include young men. I
Speaker 2: think that's something everyone can get behind. Wrong, sir, Wrong,
Speaker 2: DEI is how you lost them. The young men hate DEI.
Speaker 2: They are sick and tired of showing up at school
Speaker 2: assemblies that are Black History Month, Gay Pride Month, Women's
Speaker 2: History Month, Indigenous People's Month. They're sick of this shit.
Speaker 2: They are over identity politics in every way. They are
Speaker 2: sick and tired of not getting jobs when they graduate
Speaker 2: from good colleges. They're sick and tired of getting perfect
Speaker 2: four point zeros and perfect sat scores and not getting
Speaker 2: into top tier schools because they happen to have white
Speaker 2: skin and be boys. They are sick and tired of
Speaker 2: having being a man, taking risks, being masculine, having testosterone
Speaker 2: flow through your veins, and not be ashamed of it,
Speaker 2: be shamed, be demonized, be castigated by a turn of
Speaker 2: the nose or a casual reference, or absolutely no empathy
Speaker 2: for the problem of male depression or male suicide, or
Speaker 2: when someone dares speak out about it, like a Jordan Peterson,
Speaker 2: they get mocked as you just lead a bunch of
Speaker 2: in cells like those loser men who can't get some. Well,
Speaker 2: you're not going to get some unless you respect women.
Speaker 2: Let me do what I want while I spend your
Speaker 2: money unapologetically all that like this, This is the new
Speaker 2: version of female empowerment. They don't understand why they're loathed
Speaker 2: their weakness. It's pathetic, it's ugly, it's a turn off.
Speaker 2: They're having dei for white men whatever that means, ned
Speaker 2: ain't it And they're not going to get it until
Speaker 2: they get a real man with actual testosterone in his veins,
Speaker 2: who would never be caught dead in a man bun
Speaker 2: carrying a merse to lead their party back into full masculinity.
Speaker 2: Only then will these young men even give them a
Speaker 2: second look.
Speaker 1: Bluddy Eth big for you days ahead, Thank you, Meghan,
Speaker 1: looking forward to them. Make sure you join us tomorrow
Speaker 1: night for more Paul Murray Life Today