WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: James Gun

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<v Speaker 1>This is smallcy Surgery.

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<v Speaker 2>The brand new Superman movie is out in cinemas everywhere tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, let's catch up to the man, the creative

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<v Speaker 2>genius behind the new Superman movie. He is also now

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<v Speaker 2>the CEO of d the DC universe is famous for

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<v Speaker 2>the Guardians of the Galaxy movies and the Suicide Squad.

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<v Speaker 2>It is James Gunn. Let's welcome him to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I'm Breter, Director James Gunn. No matter what you

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<v Speaker 1>do to me, Luthor, your plans a lot of work,

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<v Speaker 1>rap it up. Good luck with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, CEO, mister James gun How Hello, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Congratulations on just what an epic masterpiece?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you feeling? Because it's like Superman is like

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<v Speaker 2>one of like the most beloved superhero characters of all time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and to take and you know, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>responsibility that comes along with, you know, telling his story

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<v Speaker 2>on the big screen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, listen, I think the responsibility is to

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<v Speaker 1>myself first and foremost. I'm a huge Superman fan. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of the of the character and all of

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<v Speaker 1>the characters that surround Superman since I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so definitely I felt that pressure when I

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<v Speaker 1>took this on.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have your little pinch yourself moment though, on

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<v Speaker 2>the first day on set when you may well maybe

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<v Speaker 2>working towards it so you sort of started to see

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<v Speaker 2>like the images and you could feel it coming along.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yes, I think it was. It was before

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<v Speaker 1>the first day. It was the first day of shooting

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<v Speaker 1>the screen tests and just seeing David start wearing the costume,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and you realize, oh my gosh, this is Superman.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to be Superman to many kids, as

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<v Speaker 1>Christopher Reeve was Supervild to me, and that was that

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<v Speaker 1>was wild because he looked like Superman.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he'll think he's the star of the movie, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Rachel thinks she's a star, and Nicholas will think he's

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<v Speaker 2>a star.

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<v Speaker 1>But the dog is the real The dog is the

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<v Speaker 1>star of the movie. There's no doubt that this is

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<v Speaker 1>Crypto's movie. And and I'm happy that we get to

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<v Speaker 1>bring this terrible, terrible dog.

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<v Speaker 2>To the world. Are you you're a dog man? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a dog I can do you know what I think?

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<v Speaker 2>When you if you are if you are a dog

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<v Speaker 2>man or a dog lady, you can see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a dog, I have two dogs and

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<v Speaker 1>a cat. Well, my dog is Cryptos. So I have

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<v Speaker 1>a dog named Ozu, who I rescued from a He

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<v Speaker 1>was in a hoarding situation a woman's backyard that was

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<v Speaker 1>about twelve by twelve feet. There were sixty dogs. They

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<v Speaker 1>were sleeping on top of each other. And I saw

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<v Speaker 1>this one dog there that had an ear sticking up

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<v Speaker 1>like a beacon, and I said, I want that funny one,

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<v Speaker 1>and I rescued him. He wanted nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 1>me or my wife had never known humans.

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<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't want to be touched. And he was just

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<v Speaker 1>destroyed my entire apartment. And I was like, well, thank

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<v Speaker 1>god he doesn't have superpower.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. And then the other dog you have.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a little puggle and her name is Lola and

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<v Speaker 1>she's fifteen years old, but she's trucking along. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Does she sleep on the bad?

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<v Speaker 1>They all sleep on the bait? I love that, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, dogs live are too short not to sleep

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<v Speaker 2>on the bed. Yeah, Cryptos sleep on the bad. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think if, like if if Superman had to, well,

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<v Speaker 2>he does sleep, but you know, would would he share

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<v Speaker 2>the bid?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that Crypto would share the bed with whomever

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<v Speaker 1>he chooses to shoot you, you know, share the bed

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<v Speaker 1>with because he's got superpowers and who's going to kick

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<v Speaker 1>him out of bed? This is true.

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<v Speaker 2>How many cuts did you make when you're when you're

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<v Speaker 2>putting it like on on, when you when you're putting

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<v Speaker 2>it down and you're doing the final edit, there's a thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it took.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean like he's there, he's there, like a three

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<v Speaker 2>hour version, then a sharpened two and a half hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I think the first cut,

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<v Speaker 1>so first comes in the assembly, which is the editors

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<v Speaker 1>just basically putting together all the pieces. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>after I've been working on those separate pieces. So that

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<v Speaker 1>was probably two forty five okay, and then the next

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<v Speaker 1>one was you know, two and a half, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we got it down to two fifteen, and then eventually

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<v Speaker 1>it's a basically you know, the credits are nine minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's basically the two hour mark.

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<v Speaker 2>And do you do you get pressure from anyone or

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<v Speaker 2>does who guards you? Is it you'r Do you sit

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<v Speaker 2>there like in your lex luthorth's making your own decision

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<v Speaker 2>or do you have a team of people around you

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<v Speaker 2>that you like.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a team of people who I trust, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>who I listen to. You know. I have Fred Raskin,

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<v Speaker 1>who's been my editor for a long time, who's worked

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<v Speaker 1>as a consultant. I have my editors, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>know who worked on this movie. I have Peter Saffren.

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<v Speaker 1>I have my wife Jen. So these are all people

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<v Speaker 1>I show every cut to that you know, give me

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<v Speaker 1>you know, notes, and I'm like, they know I want it.

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<v Speaker 1>I want them to be honest, and sometimes they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they're brutally honest, but I know.

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<v Speaker 2>That you have to be that honest. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>know I wanted honesty.

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<v Speaker 1>But not that honestly. No, No, I do want it

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like I want to make the movie. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>rather have them be you know, honest with me. Then

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<v Speaker 1>then audiences are critics being honest with me down the line. Yeah, true,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>What about Easter eggs? And did you did you pepper

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<v Speaker 2>any through?

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many Easter eggs in this movie, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So first of all, every street name in the entire

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<v Speaker 1>movie is named after like a great comic book writer

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<v Speaker 1>or artist, whether it's you know, Wade Street, after Mark

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, Moore Street after Alan Moore, and then

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<v Speaker 1>all the businesses, most of them are named after comic

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<v Speaker 1>book you know, writers and artists. Frank quietly has his

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<v Speaker 1>own electronics store obviously, and then and then also, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the most fun Easter egg is really when

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<v Speaker 1>you go into the the just the Hall of Justice,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, which is actually what the it's it's the

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<v Speaker 1>old train building in Cincinnati. It's actually what the Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice in the comics and the cartoons has been

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<v Speaker 1>based upon. Okay, we actually shot there for the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>so that in itself is an Easter egg. But inside

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<v Speaker 1>in the actual train station, there's this mural that is

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<v Speaker 1>of the history of Cincinnati, and we turned it into

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<v Speaker 1>a mural of the history of meta humans in the DCU,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we can see lots of uh, sort of

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<v Speaker 1>famous characters.

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<v Speaker 2>The obvious ones. Are there any other ones in there

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<v Speaker 2>that you bury just for family and friends that if

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, and if you don't, you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the famous, the most the one that's in almost

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<v Speaker 1>every movie is there's always a vehicle with the license

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<v Speaker 1>plate PZM five six nine. That's an Eastrike. Just from

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<v Speaker 1>my brother Patrick and me because that was our license

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<v Speaker 1>plate when we were in high school. And every every

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<v Speaker 1>single movie I have practically as a five six nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Last question, real life kryptonot Do you have one for me?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a movie snack like peanut M and m's or popcorn,

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<v Speaker 2>camel popcorn.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my Oh like things, you like things? I like

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<v Speaker 1>it a bad form. I thought it was like something

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like. I don't like heights. That's my crypto.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what we're doing here. I don't either.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I walked in here and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>why am I here? But but my kryptonite is Cashew's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you talk about what I can't stop eating, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I call them trigger foods, cashews, barbecue potato chips. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>those are those are my father?

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<v Speaker 2>You are a man out of my hot congradulations on

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<v Speaker 2>the film.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. Thank you. You're listening to the

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