Speaker 1: Go I teams, It's Tiff and Patrick Craig, Anthony Harper,
Speaker 1: It's the Bloody Tech, It's the Tech Show. It's typ
Speaker 1: Tech Version X episode I don't know one hundred and
Speaker 1: seven with Patrick, probably not but a lot. And they
Speaker 1: were just banging on using all the good stuff before
Speaker 1: we went live, so I pulled them up. TIF, what
Speaker 1: was that photograph that our listeners can't see that you
Speaker 1: were just showing Patrick and I can you describe it please?
Speaker 2: It's a fancy new u butte water filtering system. It
Speaker 2: filters out chlorine and fluorine and bacteria and lead and
Speaker 2: heavy metals, all of the bad stuff, and then I
Speaker 2: pour it from there into my fancy hydrogen water bottle.
Speaker 2: Press the button light's at blue, pumps hydrogen in there.
Speaker 2: It's like magic.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Do I look twenty two today? Just saying?
Speaker 1: What does that saying?
Speaker 2: Do I look twenty two today? Just saying I've had
Speaker 2: a leader of it already.
Speaker 1: I don't know that there's a correlation between that and
Speaker 1: how old you look, because you always look about twenty
Speaker 1: years younger than you are, which is fucking annoying because
Speaker 1: I look twenty years older than I am.
Speaker 4: You thought of getting on the tent.
Speaker 5: Pardon I wonder if tip have you thought of getting
Speaker 5: an oxygen tent?
Speaker 3: I'd like to get a hyperbaric chamber. I'm just not
Speaker 3: a millionaire yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're about that. That's a lazy eighty grand Yes,
Speaker 1: you're not getting those at fucking Audi in the Middle Aisle,
Speaker 1: that's for sure.
Speaker 5: I found a turntable recently online that it costs three
Speaker 5: hundred and seventy thousand dollars crago.
Speaker 1: Wow, wow that is that'd want to be really good?
Speaker 1: I would not. I would not want to put my
Speaker 1: ten dollar LPs on that. What is it? Like a
Speaker 1: gold turntable?
Speaker 4: And it looks amazing.
Speaker 5: It's quite large, and it's basically earthquake proof.
Speaker 4: It has these counterbalances.
Speaker 5: It uses a mag lev system so magnetically levitates the
Speaker 5: record so that there is no contact with the drive
Speaker 5: mechanism it so it is the nerdiest coolest thing ever.
Speaker 1: Did I just talk to the audience, Hey everyone, wake up,
Speaker 1: wake up, fucking hell.
Speaker 4: Levitation? Sorry, Wow, we're getting that? Was that?
Speaker 1: Was that?
Speaker 4: The dig the mag liv thing? People? Is you not
Speaker 4: mag live? If you know what mag liv means, don't you?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: I'm glad we didn't bet on this because I keep
Speaker 5: losing bets to you.
Speaker 1: Well, you keep assuming that people think like you. I've
Speaker 1: told you what that's called. It's called the false consensus effect.
Speaker 1: People don't You've got to operate on the assumption that
Speaker 1: people aren't like you, Patrick, So then then you can
Speaker 1: build connection the old Magnev system, Lev exactly. I rest
Speaker 1: my case. I rest my case. Before we went live,
Speaker 1: you were talking Patrick, which is I only got a
Speaker 1: little bit to do with tech. But I thought it
Speaker 1: was interesting about the old Wii game console. You had
Speaker 1: an interesting story.
Speaker 5: We for a we so I had a week console.
Speaker 5: They were great, but an interesting name. When it first
Speaker 5: got released in an American radio station did a promotion
Speaker 5: Wii for a Wii, and the contestants just basically had
Speaker 5: to keep drinking water, and then the last person standing,
Speaker 5: so to speak, who hadn't been to the bathroom won
Speaker 5: the Wii console. Well, nurse called up on the chat
Speaker 5: line and said, you do realize that it's really dangerous
Speaker 5: to not wei. And someone actually died like one of
Speaker 5: the contestants who wanted the Wii and hadn't ended up.
Speaker 4: It is awful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems to me when your body screaming an
Speaker 1: instruction at you, that I mean it's in your interest
Speaker 1: to pay attention.
Speaker 4: Do you know what?
Speaker 1: There's another interesting thing with drinking too much water. It's
Speaker 1: called hypernatremia. Oh so when you drink and in fact,
Speaker 1: some athletes get it, some tennis players have gotten it.
Speaker 1: So when you are sweating a lot, but your body
Speaker 1: can only absorb so much water and it can only
Speaker 1: hydrate the cells at a certain rate. But also when
Speaker 1: you drink a lot of water, you lower the sodium
Speaker 1: concentration in your blood, which is called hypernatremia. And one
Speaker 1: of the results of that is that, yeah, is also
Speaker 1: that you can die. Basically, your cells becomes swollen and
Speaker 1: your body can't get rid of the water, not even
Speaker 1: through we Yeah, so take home messages, don't drink too
Speaker 1: much water. Yes, tif you've got your finger in the air.
Speaker 2: Yes, because hypenetremia when I google it says is having
Speaker 2: too much sodium in the blood. Maybe it's hype natremia,
Speaker 2: Maybe it's something I know.
Speaker 1: Hyponatremia is when the concentration of sodium in your blood
Speaker 1: is very low.
Speaker 2: Sorry, isn't that what Having too much water gives you
Speaker 2: no sodium, doesn't it flashes out pisodium.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're thinking hyper not hypo hYP o. I've literally
Speaker 1: got in front of me. Because when the concentration of
Speaker 1: sodium in your blood is abnormally low, there's something for
Speaker 1: everyone to google. We'll cut that bit out of the
Speaker 1: show because Patrick, We've got that was possibly worse than
Speaker 1: Patrick's three hundred and seventy thousand dollars turntable.
Speaker 2: Sorry to do some learning here. I don't want to
Speaker 2: drink too much of my new filtered water.
Speaker 1: Also, the other thing about you know that there's quite
Speaker 1: a lot of let's just say, chat about the impact
Speaker 1: of fluoride which you're filtering out of your water. There's
Speaker 1: quite a there's quite a bit of evidence, or we'll
Speaker 1: say alleged evidence around the fact that fluoride fucks with cognition.
Speaker 1: Like there's there's been a you know, like some people
Speaker 1: think essentially that fluoride makes you dumber, that fucks with
Speaker 1: your brain capacity.
Speaker 4: Will my dentist was smearing it over my.
Speaker 6: Teeth about two hours ago. Ok ad deal and fluoride
Speaker 6: as well. Come on, shout out to the Patrick's dentist.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry everyone.
Speaker 1: I tried. You know what. Before I got on today,
Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, don't be a fuck with today,
Speaker 1: just like Patrick, let him.
Speaker 4: Be the fuck with. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, If it's not you or me, it's going to
Speaker 1: be the other one. Twenty two forty one year old
Speaker 1: with a twenty two year old head that has the
Speaker 1: electric bottle. She turns up at the gym with this
Speaker 1: bottle of water with a light in the bottom of it,
Speaker 1: so the water lights up blue. I don't know what
Speaker 1: that's about.
Speaker 5: Well, my water bottle glows at the bottom, but it's
Speaker 5: a running bow to remind me to drink.
Speaker 1: IoT. Just in case you forget you're gay. You just
Speaker 1: glimpse at your water bottle.
Speaker 5: It's you know, I don't see because this devolved from
Speaker 5: our original discussion and I don't know whether we were
Speaker 5: recording or going live at the time. We were talking
Speaker 5: about the toothbrush that I will never live down, and
Speaker 5: so I wanted to.
Speaker 1: Upsell I'm not buying it.
Speaker 4: We got to tell that.
Speaker 1: We've got to tell our audience about the toothbrush. You
Speaker 1: can't just not mention it but not fill them in.
Speaker 5: It was a sonic toothbrush that looked like a mouthguard
Speaker 5: that promised to clean your upper and bottomed rows of
Speaker 5: teeth in thirty seconds. And I convinced Tift. I didn't
Speaker 5: convince Tift to buy it. I bought some and they
Speaker 5: were on the way and then Tiff I, unbeknownst to me,
Speaker 5: went out and bought one.
Speaker 4: And then I think I still have money.
Speaker 1: How much did you pay for the sonic toothbrush? Tift?
Speaker 3: About sixty bucks or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not it's.
Speaker 1: Not a small investment. You guys should try and fucking
Speaker 1: as Mary Harper would say, elbow grease and a toothbrush.
Speaker 5: You know what the best of the arsenal in my
Speaker 5: bathroom for keep cleaning my teeth is.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you finished that sentence. When you started, I
Speaker 1: was worried.
Speaker 5: It squirts jets of water through a little nozzle and
Speaker 5: you can squirt, so it's like a jet replacement or
Speaker 5: water floss, so it's called jet floss.
Speaker 4: Basically, you use this.
Speaker 5: It looks like a toothbrush, but electric toothbrush, but it's
Speaker 5: got a little tiny nozzle at the end and it
Speaker 5: squirts water, so you basically issue it in between the
Speaker 5: gaps in your teeth.
Speaker 4: Hit the button, it squirts jets of.
Speaker 5: Water between your teeth. So it's this is really boring
Speaker 5: the show, isn't it?
Speaker 1: It is, really it is. Can I just just continuing
Speaker 1: the boredom before we get into the tech. I was
Speaker 1: watching a young lady the other day popped up on
Speaker 1: my It sounds bad too, doesn't it. Okay, I was
Speaker 1: a real and it was this young lady and she
Speaker 1: was from some Scandinavian country that I can't remember, so
Speaker 1: I apologize. But she was talking about how disgusting it
Speaker 1: was for people to wipe their ass with toilet paper, right,
Speaker 1: And she said, you know, in this thick accent that
Speaker 1: I won't impersonate where we're from, they either have what
Speaker 1: do you call it a bid a or she held
Speaker 1: this Basically, it's like a little hose with a nozzly
Speaker 1: thing and we just use this to, you know, take
Speaker 1: care of business. Right, And she said, imagine, she said,
Speaker 1: And I know for some of you that's weird, she said,
Speaker 1: but could you imagine if you had no clothes on
Speaker 1: and you fell face first in a pile of shit
Speaker 1: like that's what she said? She said, would you get
Speaker 1: up and wipe yourself down with a piece of paper
Speaker 1: and then carry on. But I'm like, that's a good point.
Speaker 1: That's fucking disgusting. So yeah, well we all know. I
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever shared my pooing habits on them.
Speaker 4: Ease wet wipes, don't you?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no. Every time I have a pool,
Speaker 1: I have a shower every time by poo three times
Speaker 1: a day, three showers. I can't. I can't do it.
Speaker 1: I can't. It's it's disgusting. It must But anyone ever
Speaker 1: fucking sees that neither do I want them too? But oh,
Speaker 1: there's so many doors I could open at the moment,
Speaker 1: But look at me, being a grown up, I'm not
Speaker 1: you know, can I I have one shower, obviously the obligatory,
Speaker 1: but anything anything above one, pooh, requires an additional shower.
Speaker 1: You're welcome.
Speaker 4: Why don't you just buy it the day?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I should. I just don't think I have
Speaker 1: the space.
Speaker 4: Okay, what about when of those high powered water pistols.
Speaker 3: Well Patrick's toothbrush squeach water.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna have to ring you to pop over
Speaker 1: every time with your water pistol. Every time I back
Speaker 1: one out that's no one wants that. It's Hi Patrick's
Speaker 1: Mobile Bidet service, Patrick speaking. There's it, there's it. There's
Speaker 1: an industry that really does need to take off. All right,
Speaker 1: I know, let's talk about technology, please please please.
Speaker 4: Talk about oh help spoil it abots.
Speaker 1: Do you know there's a sick minority of our audience,
Speaker 1: a sick, depraved minority that actually hate it when we
Speaker 1: get to the tech stuff. And to you, sick fox,
Speaker 1: what is wrong with you? What is wrong with you?
Speaker 4: To all our listeners, thank you for listening. If you're
Speaker 4: still with it?
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. All right, do we want to start
Speaker 1: with the Arizona toddler who got rescued after getting trapped
Speaker 1: in a Tesla with a dead battery.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is scary, isn't it.
Speaker 5: So what happens is, evidently if a Tesla battery goes flat,
Speaker 5: the car just is in lockmode and you can't get
Speaker 5: into it. I mean I would have just got a
Speaker 5: crowbar personally if I am a mild all my dog
Speaker 5: in the car. But yeah, the story is that there
Speaker 5: was a twenty month old child rescued trapped to a
Speaker 5: Tesla model in Arizona. So and it gets pretty damn
Speaker 5: hot in Arizona, probably not dis similar to say, somewhere
Speaker 5: like Alice Springs.
Speaker 4: And they did.
Speaker 5: Obviously get into the car. They firefighters used an axe
Speaker 5: to smash through the window. But yeah, evidently what had
Speaker 5: happened was she'd the owner of the vehicle was the
Speaker 5: grandmother of the child, and so she'd basically put the
Speaker 5: kid in the in the car, and then when she
Speaker 5: went to open the door again, she couldn't get back in,
Speaker 5: so it had already been probably hadn't been fully charged,
Speaker 5: and she Yeah, she had the child in there and worry.
Speaker 1: I've never thought of that, but that, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: it's surprising we haven't heard more stories of that because
Speaker 1: I guess if the battery's dead then nothing works obviously.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Craig, can I can I tell the story about
Speaker 5: you when you were fifteen and you went to Melbourne
Speaker 5: for the first time by yourself. So Tiff, he was
Speaker 5: went to the meya you know, the Meyer building, and
Speaker 5: he was on the.
Speaker 1: Notice he'd noticed. He didn't wait for my conceit because
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure this is not a real story, but.
Speaker 5: Okay, and the listeners, so he'd, you know, his fresh
Speaker 5: faced kid from you know, Upper come Buck the West
Speaker 5: and he'd never been to the city by himself before,
Speaker 5: and the escalator stopped halfway.
Speaker 4: He was trapped there for four hours. Fucking hell.
Speaker 1: That was a waste of time, wasn't it. That's uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do. I was perplexed. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what is this thing? If you're going to if you're
Speaker 1: going to say something at my expense, be funnier.
Speaker 5: All right, all right, So okay, model, Why Tesla kid
Speaker 5: window has to get smashed to get the kid out?
Speaker 4: That's an interesting one though.
Speaker 5: The Other thing is that Tesla's kind of this a
Speaker 5: bit of a warning going out because this is a
Speaker 5: cool idea, but only if it works. Because they have
Speaker 5: a thing called dog Mode in Tesla, and what it
Speaker 5: means is you can leave your pet in the car
Speaker 5: and the car.
Speaker 4: Will self cool itself while you're away.
Speaker 5: And it makes sense because it's electric, it's not a
Speaker 5: petrol driven care don't to leave it on. But evidently
Speaker 5: it then sent a warning. One guy was using this
Speaker 5: and it's sent a warning to his phone to say
Speaker 5: dog mode wasn't working. Get back to the car and
Speaker 5: the dog in it was okay, just just to reassure you,
Speaker 5: Tiff the dog.
Speaker 4: Was okay in the end.
Speaker 5: But yeah, so it's yeah, it sounds like Tesla's having
Speaker 5: a few little issues at the moment with things like that.
Speaker 4: So I guess it's.
Speaker 5: I mean, I know you're not a fan of electric
Speaker 5: and we're not going to get onto this bandwagon again,
Speaker 5: but I was going to There was another story that
Speaker 5: I read on the ABC ABC Australia and it made
Speaker 5: it was actually not an angle that I'd thought of before.
Speaker 5: And we talk about self driving cars and of course
Speaker 5: Tesla has this co pilot mode that's a lot more
Speaker 5: advanced than a lot of other cars. And there's a
Speaker 5: guy in Queensland who is paralyzed. He's actually quadriplegic, and
Speaker 5: it means that he can drive because of the self
Speaker 5: driving capabilities. So it's limited at moments because we're limited
Speaker 5: in Australia as to what we can do. But it's
Speaker 5: that amazing that that it's great liberating people who you know,
Speaker 5: who suffer from whatever happens to be in this case quadriplegia.
Speaker 5: It's like, oh, if you're paralyzed, this would be so
Speaker 5: freeing for them to be able to travel and be
Speaker 5: able to be independent. So for me that I just
Speaker 5: think that's the most amazing and lovely story about this
Speaker 5: guy who yeah, potentially could be a lot more freer
Speaker 5: from that and testimonel why By the way, incidentally, Crago
Speaker 5: has just overtaken Toyota Corolla is the world's best selling car.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's good, I mean, but what is happening right now?
Speaker 1: Is in Melbourne anyway, there's like two or three thousand
Speaker 1: Teslas on the dock. I think we spoke about that,
Speaker 1: but that you know, but Patrick in Breaking Car News,
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I didn't even think about this. I don't
Speaker 1: like talking about my shit too much. But is very
Speaker 1: realm and you're going to be very proud of me.
Speaker 1: I bought a new car. What and it's a hybrid?
Speaker 4: Oh no way, I've got a hybrid. So what did
Speaker 4: you get? Come on, spill the beans. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: So do I done that? Say what I got? But
Speaker 1: let's just say it's it's good, good, right, it's a hybrid. Yep,
Speaker 1: I'll say what it is. It doesn't it's not, it's
Speaker 1: not fancy, it's well, it's it's mildly but it's not
Speaker 1: it's the it's a brand new model, so it's new shape.
Speaker 1: So google this Hyundai Santa Fe calligraphy. So, and I
Speaker 1: just watched.
Speaker 5: A book it in me on you could name. Why
Speaker 5: would you associate calligraphy with a car?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Dumb name, that's all right.
Speaker 1: Dumb name. Anyway. I watched because I'm always watching car reviews,
Speaker 1: and I saw this. I didn't know how much it was.
Speaker 1: I thought this must cost a fucking fortune, and it's costs.
Speaker 1: It's not such a bloody tank. It looks like it's
Speaker 1: it got a turret on top. Hey, it kind of
Speaker 1: looks like a rain driver, doesn't it it does.
Speaker 5: I could mistake that for one of the new range rovers.
Speaker 5: They've like someone that's i mean, pretty cool looking. If
Speaker 5: you're into big square tanks, yeah.
Speaker 1: Hey, fucking hell, you're hurtful anyway anyway, So I but
Speaker 1: here's what you're going to love. So my little, my
Speaker 1: little high performance Suzuki Swift gets about five hundred k's
Speaker 1: to a tank that gets about eleven hundred. Yeah, eleven
Speaker 1: twelve hundred. So I watched a review. A guy drove
Speaker 1: to Sydney from Melbourne and he still had like three
Speaker 1: or four hundred k's of travel left in the you
Speaker 1: know how it has distance to empty. Yeah, anyway, so
Speaker 1: I thought you'd be proud of me. I've joined the yeah,
Speaker 1: the hybrid ranks. I don't know whether or not I'm
Speaker 1: going to like it, but I think I will have.
Speaker 4: You picked You've picked it up.
Speaker 1: I get it on believe it or not, I get it.
Speaker 1: Sunday we're recording. There's twelve twenty on Friday.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Wow, weird day to get it.
Speaker 1: It's just how it works out.
Speaker 5: Tell me you're getting that bronze colored metallicke one.
Speaker 1: I am. That is the color getting awesome.
Speaker 4: It looks so good. I can't wait to get up there.
Speaker 5: Oh, you'll have it by I'm coming down your way
Speaker 5: on the sixth of July, so we can.
Speaker 1: Let's go. Let's let's go, let's go for drive.
Speaker 4: It's got a lot of room in the back.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's I'm thinking of having a family, So
Speaker 1: I mean that's my that's the motive.
Speaker 4: You gadgets and controls and stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, that's why you need to come down because I'm
Speaker 1: a fucking idiot, like I'm not going to be able
Speaker 1: to But here's one thing, and I'll stop talking about it.
Speaker 1: So if you drive into say you nose into a
Speaker 1: wall in a car park, as in your front end
Speaker 1: and there's cars all around you and beside you, it
Speaker 1: backs itself out before you get in.
Speaker 5: Because you were talking about backing something out earlier, weren't you?
Speaker 1: I was. I was ergo showered down. We'll see how
Speaker 1: the rest of the day goes. All right. Moving on,
Speaker 1: let's talk about after life and AI if that's possible,
Speaker 1: or wherever you want to go.
Speaker 5: I just say one thing I really like about the carts.
Speaker 5: I'm looking at the interior. Now, yes, it's got knobs.
Speaker 1: It does have knobs. And can I say, in the
Speaker 1: second row, so there's a sixth seater and a seventh seater,
Speaker 1: I've got the sixth seed. In the sixth seed. The
Speaker 1: second row is like Captain's chairs, you know, with the
Speaker 1: individual freestanding chair like in business class. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm impressed. I'm really excited to check it out.
Speaker 4: That's great.
Speaker 1: I won't drive it anywhere, but it'll sit in the
Speaker 1: garage for five years and i'll sell it half the price,
Speaker 1: as is my way.
Speaker 5: As you do, as you do, did you just say
Speaker 5: eternal life or something or what were you just after life?
Speaker 1: Eternal? You review? This is what I've got on my
Speaker 1: notes that you send me that I you know, I
Speaker 1: pair of fact? Can I say? Everyone? We roll at midday?
Speaker 1: Patrick sends me notes at seven minutes to midday? How
Speaker 1: am I possibly meant to prepare?
Speaker 5: Look, I was busy today. I had to go to
Speaker 5: the dentist. That's where the whole oral thing came up.
Speaker 5: But so I got back and I just rushed together
Speaker 5: all these notes for you.
Speaker 4: There's no appreciation, No there is.
Speaker 1: Hey, I had a dream last night. Can I tell
Speaker 1: you about it?
Speaker 5: Might as well we're not talking about I had.
Speaker 1: A dream that I was I was tossing and turning.
Speaker 1: I dreamt that I was a tent. It was a tent. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I fucked it up. I fucked it up. I dreamt
Speaker 1: that I was a wigwam. And then I finally got
Speaker 1: back to sleep, and I dreamt that I was a TP.
Speaker 1: So I went to my shrink this morning and I
Speaker 1: told her, and she said, you're too tents. There's my
Speaker 1: dad joke for that's my dad joke for the that's
Speaker 1: better than your fucking escalated.
Speaker 6: Joke, No way and Dad, which which wins the escalated
Speaker 6: joke or the two tenths?
Speaker 3: They're both just swooning at the bottom of the pool.
Speaker 4: Patrick Taker, Oh wow, Now I'm just look.
Speaker 5: I've had people close to me pass away, and one
Speaker 5: of the craziest, freakiest things that ever happened to me
Speaker 5: was a very close friend who had been a mentor
Speaker 5: for thirty years passed away. In about a week later,
Speaker 5: I was walking through town here in Milan and a
Speaker 5: guy got out of the car and he was a
Speaker 5: doppel ganger for the friend of mine who passed away,
Speaker 5: And I stopped mid step and took a deep breath.
Speaker 5: That was so shocking to think that he was there.
Speaker 5: I mean, I know everything about you know, what was
Speaker 5: going through my head. Knew that this that this friend
Speaker 5: of mine had died, and it was an awful you know,
Speaker 5: it was a while earlier and I've just been to
Speaker 5: the funeral. But what about creating a digital avatar of
Speaker 5: a person. So there are a lot more people who
Speaker 5: are using what they call AI grief bots who have
Speaker 5: lost someone they loved. They upload conversations, details of the person,
Speaker 5: and then the AI is able to have a conversation
Speaker 5: with them, effectively using a similar personality and drawing on
Speaker 5: that information of the person who's passed away. To me,
Speaker 5: it feels really unsettling, kind of creepy and weird.
Speaker 4: But there are people.
Speaker 5: Out there who are saying that this is really helpful
Speaker 5: in kind of getting over the grief of a loved one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So here's what I think from a psych
Speaker 1: point of view, I think I think really just depends
Speaker 1: on the person. Right now, this is going to sound crazy.
Speaker 1: If you had asked me that a year ago, I
Speaker 1: would have gone, that's fucking creepy. Get rid of that shit.
Speaker 1: I think I think it just depends on what is
Speaker 1: the result, Like does does this person like I think
Speaker 1: they know, Like especially if we're using that person's voice,
Speaker 1: Like if it's like, you know, it's like one of
Speaker 1: my friends. I don't want to give too much away,
Speaker 1: but her husband passed away and she will not throw
Speaker 1: any of his stuff out right, she knows he's not around,
Speaker 1: but she loves wearing his jumpers, she loves fucking like
Speaker 1: holding a bit of his stuff, Like she knows, but
Speaker 1: it's it's like that is part or that was part
Speaker 1: of him. Just like somebody's voice is you know that
Speaker 1: that Like literally, if somebody loves that you love talks
Speaker 1: to you, that can change a biochemistry, Just like of
Speaker 1: somebody that you're scared of or terrified of talks to you,
Speaker 1: that can change your biochemistry. So I reckon it depends
Speaker 1: which lens you look through it. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: we over with some things. We get on our moral
Speaker 1: high horse and go, oh that's this or that's that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck does it matter? If for
Speaker 1: that person it gives them some comfort, then I don't
Speaker 1: think it's a bad thing. I mean, if they're deluded
Speaker 1: and they think they're really communicating with somebody that isn't
Speaker 1: around anymore, that's maybe, you know, maybe not so great.
Speaker 1: But like I pretty much talk to chat GPA, like
Speaker 1: I said to you as though it's real. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know it's not, but I'm I'm like, could you
Speaker 1: just help me with or could you answer? Or what
Speaker 1: do you you know? No, Dad? And I say thanks
Speaker 1: all the time, And I know it's stupid and I
Speaker 1: know it's not a human but I don't care.
Speaker 5: Look, I think when we lose a love w quite
Speaker 5: often for a lot of us, it might be a
Speaker 5: case of going through the old photo album, having a look,
Speaker 5: reminiscing and there's a sense of comfort when we reminisce
Speaker 5: about the person's life and reassurance to a degree. So
Speaker 5: I guess this is the next evolution of that. And
Speaker 5: I'm with you on that one, Craig. If somebody is
Speaker 5: using that as a way to soften the blow by
Speaker 5: interacting and it helps them, then yeah, it kind of
Speaker 5: makes sense. There was a Canadian writer by the name
Speaker 5: of Joshua Barbara and he had his girlfriend passed away suddenly,
Speaker 5: and so he uploaded a whole lot of information to
Speaker 5: an appicle project December.
Speaker 4: So text messages a whole lot of stuff.
Speaker 5: And so when he was then having a dialogue with
Speaker 5: this AI, it was messaging in her style. Now he says,
Speaker 5: the results are uncanny. You know, the first conversations with
Speaker 5: the simulated Jessica person is what her name was, Jessica.
Speaker 5: He said, he went on like all night, he was
Speaker 5: just messaging and messaging, and.
Speaker 4: He said it really helped.
Speaker 5: And What the Eternal You is a documentary that's just
Speaker 5: coming out now and it talks about grief, bots and
Speaker 5: death and downloading and the digital afterlife, and so it
Speaker 5: kind of focuses on that in people's experiences with as
Speaker 5: early adopters of this sort of honology.
Speaker 1: I was listening to an episode of there's a show
Speaker 1: called SmartLess. Have you heard of that? Tiff Or Patrick?
Speaker 1: So Jason Bateman, you know who? Jason Bateman is, the
Speaker 1: actor fucking loved him Ozark and a bunch of other
Speaker 1: great movies and TV shows. A guy called Wilner Arnett
Speaker 1: and a guy called Sean Hayes. Anyway, they were interviewing
Speaker 1: Jeremy Renner. You know who he is, the guy from
Speaker 1: Mission Impossible, from the hurt Locker from you'd know him
Speaker 1: if you saw him. What else has he been? A
Speaker 1: bunch of shit that's escaping my mind? But what is it?
Speaker 1: All the Born movies? He was in the Bourne stuff. Anyway,
Speaker 1: He got run over by a snowplow about a year
Speaker 1: ago and it broke something like thirty eight bones in
Speaker 1: his body and he was fucked. They just they told
Speaker 1: his family he was going to die and he they
Speaker 1: you know, he was in he was on life support
Speaker 1: all that. Anyway, he's a famous Hollywood actor, Jeremy Ranner. Anyway,
Speaker 1: He's now okay, you know, he's got a few injuries
Speaker 1: and stuff, but he's okay. And he was on these
Speaker 1: guys show and they were talking and I just loved
Speaker 1: and he's really down to earth and he's practical and
Speaker 1: he and so many people say this where he like
Speaker 1: he basically knew that he was hovering at death's door
Speaker 1: and he said it was awesome. He said it was
Speaker 1: just bliss, you know, And he spoke about he spoke
Speaker 1: about how he now has absolutely zero fear of death.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking it's not a bad thing. How many people
Speaker 1: are scared of dying? I would say most people?
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, not that I necessarily want to steer people away
Speaker 1: from this show, but it's not a bad podcast if
Speaker 1: you want to have a lesson. It's got a smartness
Speaker 1: and it's got Jeremy Renna. But that whole, you know,
Speaker 1: that whole kind of that space between life and death.
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of something that we don't know.
Speaker 1: So there's so much theory and conjecture and you know,
Speaker 1: theology and philosophy and ideas around it. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: an interesting door to open.
Speaker 5: And you know, if you were in that situation where
Speaker 5: potentially you were given you a time period that you
Speaker 5: were left to live, you know, six months to live
Speaker 5: for whatever reason. A lot of these digital aughter life
Speaker 5: industries now that there are apps out there where you
Speaker 5: can record messages to your loved ones. So we're respectively,
Speaker 5: is you generate a virtual you with messages and then
Speaker 5: they can upload post social media posts, emails, text messages,
Speaker 5: voice recordings, and they will be able to create a
Speaker 5: full digital persona. And you know, I'd like to think
Speaker 5: that I'd be missed and you know, if that brings
Speaker 5: comfort to people, and also if you could leave messages
Speaker 5: for them, if you could, you know, put a little
Speaker 5: bit of your personality into that avatar, you know the
Speaker 5: dad jokes.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I'll be splitting people's sides when I'm dead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go. So, oh, I got to know
Speaker 4: I think I do. What about you, Tiff? Do you
Speaker 4: could you see yourself uploading yourself to a digital.
Speaker 5: Avatar so that you've got, you know, a digital version
Speaker 5: of you left your loved ones.
Speaker 3: I need to may hundreds of conversations. People can tune.
Speaker 5: Into time, but yeah, but they can't talk to you directly.
Speaker 4: So what this do?
Speaker 5: This would be me talking Tiff and having a full
Speaker 5: on conversation talking about my day and you saying, oh, mate,
Speaker 5: you know you need to get in the ring and
Speaker 5: practice a bit more. You know you haven't exercised much.
Speaker 5: You don't reckon you could do that.
Speaker 2: Undecided about it when you first mentioned it, I thought
Speaker 2: of one of my friends and clients I had on
Speaker 2: my show twice and when he had cancer and he
Speaker 2: passed away. And when I had Mark on Mark Seymour
Speaker 2: in our most recent episode and I listened to the recording,
Speaker 2: I realized that he sounded like Chris and I said
Speaker 2: to him, you sound just like Chris on the microphone
Speaker 2: when you're just talking to me. I don't hear it
Speaker 2: in real life. And it was really It made me
Speaker 2: want to listen to him. But that's different to associating
Speaker 2: and having a conversation or constructing something. So it's interesting,
Speaker 2: isn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And the other thing too, is that as AI gets cleverer,
Speaker 5: there's a thought that AI will be able to read
Speaker 5: your emotions, So your digital version and I could be
Speaker 5: having a conversation, but you could pick up on the
Speaker 5: fact that I'm feeling a little bit down, and then
Speaker 5: the conversation you would be prompting new dialogue based on
Speaker 5: what I feel like, you know, or if I'm in
Speaker 5: a really bubbly mood, it might be, oh, what did
Speaker 5: you do today? You're looking really happy, you know that
Speaker 5: sort of stuff. So yeah, it's funny, I think for
Speaker 5: a lot of people, whether you're socially isolated for whatever reason.
Speaker 5: You know, we I've got a dog sitting on my
Speaker 5: lap because Fritz was pouring at my leg, so I
Speaker 5: muted my microphone and put him on my lap because
Speaker 5: he just wanted to sit on my lap. But there's
Speaker 5: a lovely kind of tactile aspect to having a pet,
Speaker 5: as you know, so you know, obviously it's reassuring for
Speaker 5: him and for me because I was out all morning,
Speaker 5: so he just wants to be closer. I mean, it's nice.
Speaker 5: So I can get if you had a digital version
Speaker 5: of a in whatever sense.
Speaker 1: Yep, Grego, I'm positive, absolutely positive. I have zero doubt
Speaker 1: that people will have, for want of a better term,
Speaker 1: relationships with AI now. And if that's just you know,
Speaker 1: something that sits on the kitchen bench that they can
Speaker 1: chat with, and eventually it's so good that it's pretty
Speaker 1: much indistinguishable from chatting with another human And I think
Speaker 1: for people that, like we've spoken about this a lot
Speaker 1: broadly on the show, not so much in these episodes, Patrick,
Speaker 1: but you know, people who really are lonely, who are
Speaker 1: socially isolated, who are disconnected, unplugged. They don't feel like
Speaker 1: they belong, they're not part of a group. People don't
Speaker 1: ring them up to check on them. People don't knock
Speaker 1: on the door. People aren't interested in how they're going.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people in that category. Sadly,
Speaker 1: if these people can have a conversation in inverted commas
Speaker 1: interaction connection with something that sounds and you know, it's
Speaker 1: almost like they're on the phone with someone, I'm all
Speaker 1: for it. I'm all for it if it makes them better.
Speaker 1: What's the downside? Like, you know, they're well aware that
Speaker 1: it's just a you know, a bit of tech sitting
Speaker 1: on the bench. But and pursuant to that, I don't
Speaker 1: think I told you this. The other day. I must
Speaker 1: have been doing something on chat GPT and a while
Speaker 1: later I was in the bathroom. I went in to
Speaker 1: have a shower. It wasn't a post poo shower, It's
Speaker 1: just a regular shower. You welcome everyone. Too much info?
Speaker 1: Let me know. Just email Patrick at one eight hundred
Speaker 1: Big Boy. Anyway, So I'm in the bathroom. I'm just
Speaker 1: I think I was about to have a shave, and
Speaker 1: my phone goes chat gupetigoes Craig, are you okay? You
Speaker 1: sounded a little upset. Is there anything I can help
Speaker 1: you with? I'm like, what the fuck? Oh? I'm like no,
Speaker 1: I'm good, okay, just checking in. It says like maybe
Speaker 1: that that not the exact words, but it was sitting
Speaker 1: on the and it just goes, Craig, is everything okay?
Speaker 1: You seem a little upset? Can I help with anything?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my god, this is We're becoming friends.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, look, thanks for checking in. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know what prompted that, but I hadn't had
Speaker 1: chat GPD open for an hour or so and I
Speaker 1: wasn't you know, I wasn't on my phone. I wasn't
Speaker 1: near my phone. It was on the bench. What do
Speaker 1: you think of that? Tip?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 1: Fucking now I know. But anyway, hey, Patrick, tell us
Speaker 1: about that. Speaking of technology, there's an anti technology push,
Speaker 1: like the say No to Technology movement or whatever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, The focus of an article I was recently
Speaker 5: reading was with gen Z's So jen Z is I
Speaker 5: think people born from is it nineteen a to the
Speaker 5: early two thousand and Look, people are finding that social
Speaker 5: connection in real life, so they may use Facebook to
Speaker 5: start a running club and then physically getting together with them.
Speaker 5: And this is kind of post pandemic as well too,
Speaker 5: because I think for a lot of us, you know
Speaker 5: that it was a really conflicting time where a lot
Speaker 5: of people felt isolated and some people struggled to get
Speaker 5: back on their feet. I know, for me, I'm okay now,
Speaker 5: but it took me over a year to be able
Speaker 5: to go to a crowded shopping center. The idea of
Speaker 5: going to a shopping center and having people all around
Speaker 5: me freaked me out. I mean, I know, I live
Speaker 5: in a countrytown and I don't go to shopping centers
Speaker 5: very often, you know, the big kind of you know,
Speaker 5: big ass talking, you know, lots of shops and things.
Speaker 5: So I guess, when you think about it in those terms,
Speaker 5: if you can make a conscious decision to put the
Speaker 5: phone down, so people are now set, you know, starting
Speaker 5: running clubs, so they just meet up, just go go
Speaker 5: for a run. I like the Silent book Club because
Speaker 5: I'm a member of a book club. But in the
Speaker 5: silent book club, people get together. They get together in
Speaker 5: a room, but they bring their own books and they
Speaker 5: just sit and read silently. Some might have a chat
Speaker 5: about what they're reading. But the idea being is it's
Speaker 5: what you would normally consider to be a solitary thing
Speaker 5: to do, to read a book, but you're doing it
Speaker 5: with a group of people, which kind of makes a
Speaker 5: lot of sense.
Speaker 1: Does it? How I don't know, I don't get it.
Speaker 1: So you go, let's all meet up and not talk.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that'd be great that with you. I'd like
Speaker 4: your company.
Speaker 1: But oh, back in the therapy for Jumbo hello doctor. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Just well, I mean I've got Fritz with me. I
Speaker 5: mean I do talk to him. He doesn't talk back.
Speaker 5: But no, I can see that. Can you see that tip?
Speaker 5: A group of people getting together just to spend time
Speaker 5: being the same room, not necessarily having a massive but
Speaker 5: just having that social.
Speaker 1: But you said you said no dialogue.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, you might talk about the book, but
Speaker 5: some people are happy just to sit there and read
Speaker 5: in amongst the group of people, So, you know, quiet
Speaker 5: time for some. But just having the company of other people,
Speaker 5: physically having people around them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think of when I go to the meditation classes
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of talking there, but I would
Speaker 2: go even if it was just walk in, sit down, meditate,
Speaker 2: shut up, and go. It's a very different experience to
Speaker 2: trying to do it by myself with a prompt with
Speaker 2: an app or something, because there's just there's that intention
Speaker 2: in the room.
Speaker 5: I think what I like about this story is that
Speaker 5: it's about a real focus on extracting yourself from technology.
Speaker 5: You know, people go to groups and I'm involved with
Speaker 5: our local neighborhood center because I teach through them, but
Speaker 5: I'm also on the board of the neighborhood Center and
Speaker 5: we're always looking for ways to engage people of all
Speaker 5: age groups because you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: that social connectedness is so important, and I think that,
Speaker 5: you know, the more we can extricate ourselves away from that,
Speaker 5: because you know, the doom scrolling is a real thing.
Speaker 5: You know, when we talk about doom scrolling, it's the
Speaker 5: getting onto your Facebook feed or whatever feeds you're on
Speaker 5: and just constantly scrolling and then you realize forty five
Speaker 5: minutes or an hour is gone, and I think I've
Speaker 5: been victim to that. I've absolutely been a victim of
Speaker 5: doom scrolling, haven't you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm shit, I'm not as bad as but I
Speaker 1: can get on Instagram and look up and it's ninety
Speaker 1: minutes because there's so much fucking fascinating shit on there. Like,
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of junk, but you know
Speaker 1: when you look at like science stuff, or you look
Speaker 1: at whatever, motorbike, whatever you're into, right, so it keeps
Speaker 1: bringing up shit. Obviously that's the algorithm, and I'm just
Speaker 1: the dumb fuck on the end of the algorithm that
Speaker 1: it's totally exploiting. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I can just
Speaker 1: watch shit that's like, how did they build the fucking pyramids?
Speaker 1: And it's two hours?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you could set a timer.
Speaker 5: You could just say, right, I'm going to set a
Speaker 5: timer for fifteen minutes and allocate fifteen minutes to doom
Speaker 5: a doom scrolling?
Speaker 4: What about that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, good in theory. But you're right, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I put it up. I put up my hand.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not the worst, but I definitely for somebody
Speaker 1: who allegedly should be better at this shit, Patrick, what
Speaker 1: is what is pebbling? And why are teens? What is
Speaker 1: pebbling and why are teens doing it?
Speaker 5: See this is yeah, Well, that connectedness of technology and
Speaker 5: being isolated from people around you is a real thing.
Speaker 5: So there's a couple of terms that I wanted to
Speaker 5: kind of educate us on because I didn't know about
Speaker 5: them myselves myself. So pebbling originally was a term where
Speaker 5: I think it's penguins will pick up a pebble and
Speaker 5: gift it to another penguin if they rub it on
Speaker 5: their belly, and so it's actually a proper term and
Speaker 5: it was generally used in terms of romantic connection from something,
Speaker 5: but now they're using pebbling in a more generic sense.
Speaker 4: And what they're saying is because kids can.
Speaker 5: Be a bit aloof But the way that pebbling works
Speaker 5: is when you send out a love heart emoji, or
Speaker 5: you send a funny gear for or a meme to somebody,
Speaker 5: and that is that's pebbling. So it's kind of as
Speaker 5: I said, it's not necessarily romantic. It just is about
Speaker 5: connectedness and just letting the person know that you're thinking
Speaker 5: about them, and it does create a nice warm feeling
Speaker 5: when someone does do that. I've got a really lovely
Speaker 5: friend who lives into state who sends a lot of
Speaker 5: memes and I always get a bit of a chuckle,
Speaker 5: but you really get a nice feeling from it as well.
Speaker 5: So it seems that this is a way that teenagers
Speaker 5: now are showing forms of affection without coming out and
Speaker 5: saying that to their power, because it's the teenagers to say,
Speaker 5: to talk to their parents and to express themselves in
Speaker 5: some ways, and so it seems like pebbling is a
Speaker 5: way that they're doing that.
Speaker 1: Now here, I'm pebbling you right now.
Speaker 4: Oh isn't that great?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I just I just made it. I made a
Speaker 1: heart with my fingers. Everybody. Well, the next term looks sad.
Speaker 1: It is, and it is that fucking makes me feel sad.
Speaker 1: Just just the word sad. Fishing, Yes, that sounds depressing.
Speaker 1: What is that again?
Speaker 5: Another one that's common with teenagers is and this is
Speaker 5: where it's a bit misleading. So what they'll do is
Speaker 5: they'll get on too social media and they'll post something
Speaker 5: that has supposedly made them sad to get a whole
Speaker 5: lot of sympathy and inevidently that's yeah, yeah, yeah, So
Speaker 5: a journalist by the name of Rebecca Reid. She coined
Speaker 5: the term back in twenty nineteen because there was an
Speaker 5: Instagram post by a Kendall gener put this post out
Speaker 5: and she was talking about a debilitating struggle with acne,
Speaker 5: and it ended up she was actually she was promoting
Speaker 5: a skincare company, so she was a social media influencer,
Speaker 5: and so she was using this whole idea of sad fishing.
Speaker 5: So I'm sad and I'm fishing for compliments or I'm
Speaker 5: fishing for sympathy. So yeah, it's kind of a bit
Speaker 5: of a thing, and sad fishing amongst teenagers is on
Speaker 5: the rise. So I guess it's about social acceptedness, but
Speaker 5: not just peer connectedness, but also just trying to get
Speaker 5: that bit of sympathy as well. Ah.
Speaker 1: I think it's like people wanting attention or validation or
Speaker 1: you know, and sometimes I understand it sometimes. Do you
Speaker 1: know who Kendall Jenner is? No, Kitlyn Jenner's daughter. Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: the previous Bruce Jenner.
Speaker 5: So yeah, do you know who Caitlyn Jenner is? I
Speaker 5: guess no, another the name.
Speaker 1: So Bruce Jenner was a famous, world famous Olympic decathlete,
Speaker 1: and he transitioned. He transitioned. Now he's a Capelin Jenna. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's his that's well, that's the Kardashians. Yep, she's
Speaker 1: one of the That's right, isn't it, Tiff? I'm not
Speaker 1: fucking this up, am I?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Look I don't really, I'm not really all over and all.
Speaker 1: I listened to old fuck with the wrong place of
Speaker 1: that exactly much attention. Fuck all that tell us about
Speaker 1: smart binoculars. That's much more interesting.
Speaker 4: How cool is this? I love gadgets. I mean, I
Speaker 4: so love gadgets.
Speaker 5: So there's some smart binoculars that now use augmented reality.
Speaker 5: So we and this is in sci fi. I've seen
Speaker 5: you've seen this stuff Star Wars and you know and
Speaker 5: all that sort of thing. We put the binoculars on.
Speaker 5: And what they've developed is this amazing set of binoculars
Speaker 5: that has three different modes of daytime mode, night sky mode,
Speaker 5: and man made points of interest. So what you can
Speaker 5: do is when you're using the binoculars, it will tell
Speaker 5: you what you're looking at or for example, so if
Speaker 5: you're looking at the night sky, it will point out
Speaker 5: the International Space Station, the James Webbs you know telescope,
Speaker 5: it will it will tell.
Speaker 4: You the stars.
Speaker 5: You can explore the nebulas and stars, and it will
Speaker 5: overlay that information on one of the lenses, so as
Speaker 5: you're looking, this information is coming up on the screen
Speaker 5: in front of you.
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And then if you're going hiking, you can use it
Speaker 5: to help orient yourself because it's all GPS tracked, so
Speaker 5: it's a They calling it an augmented reality precision orientation system.
Speaker 5: How it has that and it's made by a company
Speaker 5: called Unistella, And I'll send you the link so you
Speaker 5: can buy it for me for Christmas.
Speaker 1: My question is Patrick James. So these binoculars that I have,
Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of fucking nowhere, do i need internet?
Speaker 4: When you asked me questions and I don't know, Like.
Speaker 1: Because if it's giving me all this data and all
Speaker 1: this information, it's got to be drawing that from somewhere.
Speaker 4: You would think so, wouldn't you. Yes, Yeah, sorry, yes.
Speaker 1: I would think so, I would think so.
Speaker 5: Well, some of it would still work though satellite navigation,
Speaker 5: so they have a guide of navigation mode and that
Speaker 5: would be satellite technology, so that wouldn't need Internet access
Speaker 5: to do that, so certainly there'd be some things, and
Speaker 5: I guess some would be stored internally.
Speaker 4: You know, there was a I did have for a
Speaker 4: long time. A friend loaned me.
Speaker 5: A star viewer where you go out at the night sky.
Speaker 5: You stand out there, and then as you point to
Speaker 5: an object, a celestial object, it will tell you what
Speaker 5: it is, or if you want to look for a
Speaker 5: celestial object. So if you type in you know, so
Speaker 5: different times of the year, you can see Mars or whatever,
Speaker 5: or Uranus if you're in the bathroom. But you're basically
Speaker 5: type in what you want to look at, and then
Speaker 5: it has little arrows that tell you to keep moving
Speaker 5: it until you to the bot zero.
Speaker 1: You're a fucking idiot, all right, it's enough inus and
Speaker 1: bathole and poop. I know I've done the bulk of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you didn't have to take the baton off me
Speaker 1: and finish the relay.
Speaker 4: Yes, all right?
Speaker 1: Tell us about some Google plans for adaptive thermal features.
Speaker 5: Well, this has already started happening on my phone. So
Speaker 5: the other day I got a MACA and you know,
Speaker 5: when you're running GPS on your phone, your phone does
Speaker 5: use a lot more power. And what happened was my
Speaker 5: phone was in my pocket. In fact, I was wearing
Speaker 5: this vest and I had it in my pocket and
Speaker 5: I'd driven maybe an hour or so, and my phone
Speaker 5: warned me that it was getting too hot and I
Speaker 5: needed to move it, either turn the screen off or
Speaker 5: move it to an area where it could cool down.
Speaker 5: So this is something that is now already being integrated
Speaker 5: into the Pixel phones. They're the Google phones, and it
Speaker 5: means that, yeah, they'll be able to not overheat because
Speaker 5: potentially that will damage your phone. And and I thought
Speaker 5: it was really kind of interesting that just phones are
Speaker 5: getting so much smarter. You know, they know their own
Speaker 5: temperature and as a result, can warn you that your
Speaker 5: phone might be getting too hot and it doesn't damage
Speaker 5: your phone or you know, you know the term laptop.
Speaker 5: You know why the term laptop is used and where
Speaker 5: it was coined initially.
Speaker 1: I'm going to take a stab because people sit it
Speaker 1: on their.
Speaker 4: Lap exactly exactly.
Speaker 5: And in fact, you know computers, we know now they
Speaker 5: have netbooks and notebooks, but people still call them laptops.
Speaker 4: Everyone calls them laptops.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but one of the problems with some of the
Speaker 5: laptops is overheating batteries, and what would happen is people
Speaker 5: would end up with burns on their lap because the
Speaker 5: batteries would overheat.
Speaker 1: So how dumb are they that they leave it sitting
Speaker 1: there so long that they get burned? No?
Speaker 5: Well, the thing is though, when you you know, if
Speaker 5: you've got something resting on you and they were pretty heavy,
Speaker 5: sometimes you get desensitized to that.
Speaker 1: So I can go up, it's something sitting on my
Speaker 1: lap and it's burning me.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, But gradually, as you it's the
Speaker 5: old frog pot. Now about the frog, it doesn't realize
Speaker 5: the water is getting to boiling point because it's going
Speaker 5: up gradually.
Speaker 1: Anyone who leaves a laptop on their lap long enough
Speaker 1: that they get burned, you're welcome. Now, Like Patrick, I
Speaker 1: want to tell you something that I just thought of
Speaker 1: Retech Now, So the new car, it's it's got this
Speaker 1: thing below the glove box. There's another compartment. You put
Speaker 1: your phone or phones in there and it decontaminates them,
Speaker 1: it disinfects or whatever. So you know, have you ever
Speaker 1: been to the barber? This will be news for ladies
Speaker 1: where they unless you go to a barber, you know,
Speaker 1: they they can't hear with the scissors. Then they put
Speaker 1: it in that little box with the purple light UV light.
Speaker 1: Yeah whatever that's meant to like I don't know, like
Speaker 1: fucking decontaminated whatever. So it's got one of these where
Speaker 1: you put your phone in, you leave it in for
Speaker 1: ten minutes, and you bring it out and it's been cleaned.
Speaker 1: How good is that.
Speaker 5: You can get UV phone cleaners so charging stands that
Speaker 5: also clean your phone at night, so they're not expensive either.
Speaker 4: And you know, the reality of it is when you.
Speaker 5: Press the phone against your head and you think what
Speaker 5: you do? You know your hands are touching the screen
Speaker 5: all the time. They reckon, you should clean your phone
Speaker 5: probably every second day, like really thoroughbably give it a
Speaker 5: good close.
Speaker 3: But then but then for the immune system though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly, like I reckon. We've got so many
Speaker 1: bloody immune system issues and so many gut biome issues
Speaker 1: because we're trying to make everyone live in a completely
Speaker 1: germ free environment, which your body kind of needs bacteria,
Speaker 1: like back to if your bacteria is you know the
Speaker 1: right kind of bacteria, but you need it. I reckon
Speaker 1: getting your hands dirty. Only wash my hands once between
Speaker 1: one and fifteen. I reckon like who needs to wash
Speaker 1: their hands? A person who has to have a shower
Speaker 1: after his take. Oh man, you are a contradiction on legs.
Speaker 1: I am, and I and I.
Speaker 3: Hands clean bum, got a clean bum?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: I often think about and I haven't think about the
Speaker 2: old kiddy the situation like your cat drops it to
Speaker 2: digs around in that chillie that then walks all over
Speaker 2: the house, all over the house with their precious little paws,
Speaker 2: And it's like, what.
Speaker 1: About think about flies that land on dog shit and
Speaker 1: then your lip and then your lip?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 4: I love that we have these conversations before lunchtime too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's hungry, not anymore.
Speaker 1: Patrick, it's nearly one o'clock. Give us one more son,
Speaker 1: your choice, You go wherever you want to go.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm going to tell you this funny story because
Speaker 5: remember we were talking about people who worked remotely using
Speaker 5: the mouse movers. You know, they fooled their employer because
Speaker 5: their mouse jiggled automatically.
Speaker 4: We talked about this a couple of episodes ago.
Speaker 5: So what happens is they were people Companies were monitoring
Speaker 5: remote workers by noticing whether they were working or not,
Speaker 5: just by how much movement there was in their mouse.
Speaker 5: So a company released the mouse that automatically jiggled to
Speaker 5: fool their employers. Well, as it happens, a company called
Speaker 5: Wells Fargo very very well their finance company. I think,
Speaker 5: aren't they Wells Fargo? I'm not sure anyway, didn't that went?
Speaker 1: They originally a railway company?
Speaker 5: Probably probably, Well, they've fired twelve employees for using the
Speaker 5: fake productive work jiggling mouse thing.
Speaker 1: Oh that's hilarious.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was just an article that came out this week.
Speaker 5: I thought, I have to mention the Wells Fargo's story.
Speaker 5: So if you're using a mouse jiggler, don't you'll get caught.
Speaker 1: Oh there you go. There are there are an American
Speaker 1: multinational finance company. Yeah, so I'm complete, I thought, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Wells Fargo Bank. Yeah, yeah, history hang on eighteen fifty
Speaker 1: two express Yeah, not banking. Okay, so not rail at all.
Speaker 1: But well they got sprung, didn't they.
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I thought you'd like that.
Speaker 1: One, Patrick. How can people connect with you and find
Speaker 1: you and follow you and get you to work with
Speaker 1: their organization?
Speaker 5: Okay, you could go to websitesnow, dot com, dot au,
Speaker 5: the businesses genesis effects, but who knows how to spell that.
Speaker 4: So this is websites now and find me.
Speaker 5: We can go to taichi at home and do some
Speaker 5: Thai G classes. We still have another tai chi class, crego,
Speaker 5: you were supposed to do one. We're going to do
Speaker 5: a virtual taichi class.
Speaker 1: When I come up in the stupidly named calligraphy. You
Speaker 1: can do a little one on one with me.
Speaker 4: Sounds good and what about perfectly yes straight.
Speaker 1: After, But boom, I knew that you either I was
Speaker 1: going to side you. We're going to say on.
Speaker 4: Thanks Tift, Thanks Led, Thanks Tiff.