1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: Matt Rowl's brown load. 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 2: Triumph both a worthy winner and a controversial Counts League 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: boss Andrew Dillon is here. 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 3: Locke Neil ticks off for another key session as he 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 3: closes in on the most unlikely Grand Final appearance, and. 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 2: The GVP winner joins us Patrick Daingerfield has a Ford 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 2: Mustang to collects before leading Geelong into the Premiership decider. 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 4: We've talked about is this step into it? 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: Debrace all hit in the room and reason it's unedifying 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: for a senior coach to do that. 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 5: They're on the side of Courtia with the brain tape. 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 5: The man on they played the best footy. 13 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: I've ever seen at the start of the season and 14 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: injury said president left the cup over said, of course 15 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: they do. 16 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 6: Is the stuff that legends are made of. 17 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 5: What is holding the ball? 18 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 7: I don't think I could answer it clearly right now 19 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 7: that I could do something. 20 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: Wrong, you know, and I need to get on the 21 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: board sex. 22 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 4: Meet the fans, lover and with no fans, no through 23 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 4: sixty year old. 24 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 2: I suppose this consolations go Matt, I didn't do too bad. 25 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: He missed the mustang but got Charlie. Yeah no, and 26 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: deservedly so. Well done to Matthew. His mum on that 27 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: happy because I think she thought we spoke to a 28 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: very tired Matthew. 29 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: This morning and he spun his mark that when we 30 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: start talking about the car, he said, Mom, and her 31 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: eyes all over it. 32 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: You can't put the seat covers on the metal. 33 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 5: This big cannot put it. 34 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 3: He's going to have to hold the seat covers for 35 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 3: another for another year. 36 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: You're right about Patrick Cribbs next year. I've got to 37 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: run my multi past year before I put it on line. 38 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: Was a really clear vicious with George here and over 39 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: Patrick Cribbs. But it was an interesting night, that's for sure. 40 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 7: It was. 41 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: So we've got big duties tonight. The Ford Mustang is 42 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 2: back out the front of the Fox building. Do you 43 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: think Patrick Dangerfield was aware. 44 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: I think he might have. 45 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 3: I know damn well he was, because he caught my 46 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: eye as I was in there waiting to do post game. 47 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 5: Once he saw in heah, you reckon. I think it 48 00:01:58,640 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 5: occurred to him. 49 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: Probably it's stage late in the quarter of the last 50 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 3: quarter of things. I'm a damn good chance to win 51 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: that magnificent vehicle right there. 52 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: So Andrew Berkish has brought this back to us that 53 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: was here right at the start of the season and 54 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 2: it's back out the front tonight. 55 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 3: Well, it's going to look good down at Bob's Creek, 56 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: just driving along that great Ocean road. 57 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 5: It is a magnificent vehicle. 58 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 3: It's gone to a magnificent footballer here and so we 59 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 3: couldn't be happier. 60 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 5: And Andrew's going to join. 61 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: Us, all right, So Ford Australia's President and the chief 62 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: Executive to join us with Patrick Dangerfield in our second break. 63 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: Andrew Dillon to join us at the desk. 64 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 2: And the coach of the Year has been announced during 65 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: this hour and he will join us in the immediate 66 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: aftermath the midweek tackle. There is so much news happening 67 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 2: at the moment in the trade space, in the President's space. 68 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: So Lauren Wood, John Ralph and Corbyn Middleness immediately after us. 69 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 2: Tomorrow night's our Premiership pairing Adam Simpson and John Longmire 70 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: with a look towards this year's decided the Grand Final. 71 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: Lumpires will join us in Mark Knight, it's always a 72 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: great review when he brings his posters in the two possibilities? 73 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 5: Does he leaves them. 74 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: Here because there's a collector's item, does have you got 75 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: a non winners. 76 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: Are tucked away somewhere for a rainy day and the 77 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: Superannuation f and then our special on Thursday night. Just 78 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: Dunkley is committed to come and join us at the death. 79 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: Simon Goodwin is going to be here, Toby Green and 80 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: Just Revold as we build out. 81 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: Of us shapes is a beauty, A nice way to 82 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: finish off the lead. 83 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 5: Into the Grand Final. 84 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the agenda. 85 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: At the top of it's the league's chief executive Andrew 86 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: Dillon to join us at the desk with the issues 87 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: as they present in Grand Final week, and one of 88 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: those is the place of the modern Brownlow Medal. Two 89 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 2: things can be true as once Matt Row was the 90 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: most worthy winner last night, and by the end we 91 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: had all manner of controversy. 92 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 7: Saints better God of Tituscores wagon, Emilie has gone a 93 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 7: full forward. 94 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh my god, look us. 95 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 6: Start he step minutes what Seculda, n Wangon and Hiller 96 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 6: up two boats? Melbourne and Jay Bidy three boats says. 97 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 4: But if you're going to say there was one game 98 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 4: that got three votes, that would be in the top 99 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 4: handful with it. Gold Coast m Row three votes, Gold 100 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 4: Coast m Row three votes, Gold Coast m Row three votes, 101 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 4: Gold Coast m Row three boats. 102 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 7: I probably wasn't expecting that sort of start, so yeah, 103 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 7: probably can't have to switch on a bit after that. 104 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 6: Gold Coast m Row twenty boats and I declare. 105 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 4: The winner of the twenty twenty five Browlow Medal Matt 106 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 4: Raw of the Gold Coast Suns. 107 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 7: There was a surreal feeling being up there, you know, 108 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 7: as a kid, like watching the brown Low and seeing 109 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 7: seeing players. 110 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: Up there, and. 111 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 7: I don't know, it was very peach me sort of 112 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 7: moment you do a dream of maybe, you know, winning 113 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 7: a brown Law something. 114 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 4: Like that one day. 115 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 7: I don't play for individual honors really like win a 116 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 7: premiership one day. 117 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 4: That's what you played for. 118 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 7: But I'm very honored to win this prestigious award and 119 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 7: very humbled. 120 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: The best and fairest and the worst of Brownlow Night 121 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: all wrapped into one. The Premiership cover has arrived with 122 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: a boss anddraw doing great tab on the program. 123 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me on, Jared Good See Gary. 124 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: You've got to talk together, slow down lift. It was 125 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: very really landed by ten twenty eight. Salute to you 126 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: as the early work was worth it. I was listening 127 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: to the producer in the year. I was just trying 128 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: to get my time into. 129 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: He did it well because it didn't start to laugh 130 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: at ete. 131 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, rounded up by ten thirty. 132 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, just on ten thirty. 133 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, take Andrew. What would you say about Winner? 134 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 4: Oh, he's a super player. He's he's had a great 135 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 4: year and he's the sort of player I think Richard 136 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 4: mentioned in his speech. He won five competition bns as 137 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 4: a junior, so he's obviously someone who's attracted the umpire's 138 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 4: attention for most of his career. 139 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: That was a bit. I love gazz He loves footy 140 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: so much. 141 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: He spoke, he loves his boots, He eats the grass 142 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: like he is the kid who would have slept with 143 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: his footy and all the way through and he was 144 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 2: almost destined from it. From when he starts his career 145 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: with three three three in games two, three and four 146 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 2: and then he has interruption, he gets diverted along the way. 147 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: He's always caught the eye. 148 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 5: No, I think he's a spectacular player. He really is. 149 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: I mean I had the right to vote with our 150 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: award and he was right there, and I just love 151 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 3: how courageous he is. 152 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 5: I love how single mined he is. 153 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: And it doesn't surprise me that he catches the eye 154 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 3: of the umpire because and he's added that breakaway stuff 155 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: to his game as well. We've always known him as 156 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: this inside animal that is as competitive as anyone, but 157 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 3: he's added this different element this year, I think, and 158 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 3: that would be even more eye catching, would you. 159 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 4: And if you go back to his first three games, 160 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 4: all that second, third, and fourth where he did have 161 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 4: that and the injuries. But yeah, he's been a super. 162 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: Player, so's he's not in any way a controversial winner. 163 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: The aspect is the concentration of votes thirty nine after 164 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: last year's forty five? 165 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: Are you on alert for that? 166 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 4: Look, it's a topic and it's come up last year 167 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 4: and certainly this year. But I mean, ultimately, the brand 168 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 4: Low is the umpire's award, and we will go to 169 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 4: the umpiring group like we did last year. There's a 170 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 4: bit of talk about, you know, should they have access 171 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 4: to stats the leadership group last year and the umpires 172 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 4: were comfortable as it is, but we'll have a chat 173 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 4: with them in the off season again. But I think 174 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: as you said, like, no one could argue with Matt 175 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 4: as the Brown leaw melist of this year and Patrick 176 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 4: the year before. 177 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: Do you think to maintain the reverence of the award 178 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: it has to hold up in the modern context where 179 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: you can troubleshoot the votes the moment that they land 180 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: and see the fault lines within them. 181 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, it's a really good point, Jered. But it's 182 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 4: I said in the speech last night. It's one hundred 183 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 4: and one years old. The umpires have been part of it. 184 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 4: But absolutely we have to continue to progress. And if 185 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: that's access to stats, if that's the thing that helps that, 186 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 4: well then we certainly have a look at it. 187 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: Do you worry that it is being held up to 188 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: ridicule to some degree? 189 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: And so I've been going to Brownlows since Robert Harvey 190 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: won his first and I think people are sort of 191 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: in and out of the count. The moment where Wangony 192 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: Miller didn't get through, I've never experienced that before. That 193 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: was a moment of ridicule, I thought for the Brown Line. 194 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 4: I mean, I've been to twenty of Brown Lows myself. Yes, 195 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: that was one, but you know, maybe that was just 196 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 4: one out of the box. I think it's the highest 197 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: individual accolade. There was one and a half million people 198 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 4: who watched it last night, and we're talking about it 199 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 4: now and did he's still a super prestigious so well. 200 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 1: I agree with that. 201 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 5: It matters to us. 202 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 2: That's why it was debated so fiercely today. But it 203 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: will only hold as the game's most prestigious award if 204 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 2: it's an accurate reflection of what's taking place of the field. 205 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 2: On the field, I think that's the balance point at 206 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 2: the moment. If you don't give the umpires all the 207 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: information that all of us had, I think it's the 208 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 2: equivalent of playing pin the tail on the donkey with 209 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: a blindfold on, and the award it won't sustain if 210 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 2: it's held up to ridicule year on year on year. 211 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think you're picking one game out 212 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 4: of two hundred and seven for more. I would lay 213 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 4: out some of the patricks, but actually we can look 214 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 4: at if we look at the top ten, it actually 215 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 4: pretty much reflects, albeit with little changes in terms of 216 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 4: the Coaches Award, the Players Award, and most of your 217 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 4: media awards as well. 218 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: I think in this age and era that we live in, 219 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: everyone's got access to the immediate access to be able 220 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: to review these things. I think this has been going 221 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 3: on for years and years and years, and it is 222 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: what you get with the vagaries of having an umpire 223 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 3: put in charge. 224 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 5: I think the stats are a must. I'm interested to know. 225 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 3: I would be interested to know why the leadership group 226 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: said that they didn't need them. I think that's something 227 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 3: that has to be addressed and should be afforded to 228 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: the umpires. But I have no issue with the fact 229 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: that there are these different challenges because we've got enough 230 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: awards and umpires see things differently to you and me 231 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 3: and coaches or players and everyone else, and that is 232 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 3: the uniqueness of this award. It's up to us to 233 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 3: allocate how much prestige we want to put on these awards. 234 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 3: I still have it right there, but I have the coaches, 235 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: and I have the GV. 236 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 8: GV the players, not the GV that'll carry the players 237 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 8: award and a GV, So I don't have an issue 238 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 8: with it at all. 239 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 3: And I read an article in the Held Sun just 240 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 3: recently and they picked a part the Goods, Buckley and 241 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 3: Rastudo Awards and they highlighted three games you just were 242 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: every bit of staggering, as these guys are not getting 243 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: votes anyway, I think that stats have to happen, and 244 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: I would like to know why they're not. 245 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 5: Haven't looked at it. 246 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: So what chance the umpires will see some version of 247 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: stats next year? 248 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 4: Well, as I said, that's a conversation we'll have in 249 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 4: the off season. But you know, we're not We're not. 250 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 4: We're not deaf to the opinions of those that matter. 251 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: The official memorabilia is now available hand signed by Matt 252 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: rowlofficial memorabilia dot com dot au to celebrate The Sun's 253 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: second Brownlow Medal. Did you have any trepidation around Bailey 254 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 2: Smith last night, who's a very different cap It's fair 255 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: to say. 256 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's an interesting super player, interesting guy, interesting in shades. 257 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 4: He's probably about the only person in the room who 258 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 4: could pull those shades off. But yeah, look, he told 259 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 4: really well fed in the brown Low and he's got 260 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 4: a big day on Saturday, and I know he's really 261 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 4: looking forward to that. 262 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 2: All right, I'll look back to a little bit of 263 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: what happened on Saturday. So the Jamie Elliott Free Kick 264 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: had our coaches last night at counterpoints as to what 265 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: they thought this should have been a free or not. 266 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 4: I actually thought it was a pretty pretty good spoil. 267 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 4: There was an incredible effort. I could see how they 268 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 4: could pay it though at the. 269 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: Same time he made contact front on with a player 270 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: trying to mark. 271 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: The ball, and so in my view that's a free kick. 272 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: Is it a free kick? 273 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 4: Well, I think that conversation actually looks at it. I 274 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 4: reckon you can look at it on after replay, after replayer, 275 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 4: maybe have a different conversation. We think the umpire from 276 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 4: the position he was in, he made a call that 277 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 4: was certainly the right call. 278 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 2: So if that happens again on Saturday, would we expect 279 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 2: the same call of play on? 280 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 4: I think if you've got the umpire in that position 281 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 4: with that happening, absolutely that. 282 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 3: Wouldn't be how it's been with respect how it's been 283 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 3: adjudicated this year. I think that free kicks paid ninety 284 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 3: eight times out of one hundred throughout the course of 285 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 3: this year. 286 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I mean I don't know whether the ones 287 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 4: happened exactly like that where he did get the ball. 288 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 4: It was and you know we're watching it now it 289 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 4: in super slow mode. I love it, but I'm appreci 290 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 4: it was a judicated like that, and I say, like 291 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 4: on the night, I straight away thought that would be 292 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 4: one that would normally be paid, but we were comfortable 293 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 4: with where it landed and a great winter the Lions. 294 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 2: Jamie Elliott's other moment was to take the Mark of 295 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: the Year. I think we sort of had this discussion 296 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: last year and didn't get any action. Are you contemplating 297 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: putting the mark and the goal of the year all 298 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 2: the way through the season rather than ending at the 299 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 2: home and away season? 300 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 4: Well, I mean I think when you look at it, 301 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 4: you know, and the finals, we've got our best players 302 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: playing on the biggest stages. I think if it's not 303 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 4: if you don't extend it out for the whole season, 304 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 4: there might be considerations for that. I think having something 305 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 4: that acknowledges what goes on in the finals for the 306 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 4: mark and the goal is something that's certainly begin our contemplation. 307 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 5: The Mark of the Year should be the course of 308 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 5: the AFL year. 309 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 4: What about the GVP, Yeah, it goes through the All 310 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 4: round final. 311 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 6: Yeah. 312 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 4: I thought he's just awarded it. 313 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 5: Well, no one can win. 314 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: At the end of round twenty two last night, I. 315 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 4: Was like, yeah, okay, fair enough, read out next week's quickly. 316 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: Then, Yes, the Essendon side of things, are you moditoring 317 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: what's happening with the president stepping down today and handing 318 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: over to Andrew Welsh. 319 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. I spoke to Dave barn this morning. He's he's 320 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 4: done a great job for the Bombers. Four years in 321 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 4: charge and been on the board for a while. It's 322 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 4: made some big changes there and now they've got a 323 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 4: Andrew Welsh, former player, really successful businessman who's been on 324 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 4: the board for a while. He'll take the reins Now. 325 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 4: They've got a big trade period coming up, in a 326 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 4: big draft coming up, so they've got rebuilding to do. 327 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 4: But I've got you know, I know Andrew, with Craig Vozo, 328 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 4: Brad Scott, we've got the right people there. But you know, 329 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 4: Dave has done an incredible job for the Bombers. 330 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: Will you want to alert for a board challenge that 331 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 2: was massing around Essendon and maybe this calms the horses 332 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: a bit. 333 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 4: Look, I'd only heard what people had spoken about in 334 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 4: the media. I hadn't heard anything official. I know that 335 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 4: Dave knew that he was coming in as an agent 336 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 4: of change and there was going to be a time 337 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 4: period on how long he was going to be there for. 338 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 5: They sit in and they have not group at the moment, 339 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 5: so there was a bit. 340 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 3: There's a bit of a democation at least top seams 341 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: in bottom and it impacted the way from our point 342 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 3: of view as broadcast as towards the back half of 343 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 3: the year, we had a lot of upsided games. Thankfully, 344 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: the final series is magnificent. Are you concerned about the 345 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: gap that is emerging? 346 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 4: Not concerned, Gary, but it's certainly something that we're acutely 347 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 4: aware of. We did have that top nine bottom nine, 348 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 4: very different from the two seasons before. What we did 349 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 4: see this year though, was adelaide go from fifteenth to 350 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 4: minor Premiers. We had the Gold Coast make the finals 351 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 4: for the first time ever. We had free oh for 352 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 4: only the second time in about ten years. So we 353 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 4: are seeing hubs move up and down the ladder. I 354 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 4: think some of those clubs that we're outside the top nine, 355 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 4: you know, the Swan's lots of injuries, the Bombers have 356 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 4: never seen. You haven't seen an injury lease like that 357 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 4: for a while. What we are really cannot concerned about 358 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 4: be keeping nineties. Those clubs that are down the bottom 359 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 4: and are staying down the bottom. And that's something that's 360 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 4: taking up a bit of our attention at the moment 361 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 4: because we want our fans. Fans want to have hope, 362 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 4: and you want to be able to go to You 363 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 4: want to go into a season having hope, and you 364 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 4: prefer to be going in every weekend with a bit 365 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 4: of hope. 366 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: Do you think the equalization measures are working? So we 367 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: just had their graphic up of what the likely gains 368 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: of the Brisbane lines that GEO long are going to 369 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: be through free agency. Do you worry that equalization is 370 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: not having the effect that you would expect. 371 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 4: Well, I think what we are seeing is that there 372 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 4: are clubs that are incredibly well run and they've got 373 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 4: programs that players want to go to. And then we've 374 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 4: got the three measures for equalization. We've got the access 375 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 4: to talent, whether it's free agency, trade or draft. We've 376 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 4: got the salary cap, and then we've all got the 377 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 4: soft cap. And the clubs that can work at the 378 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 4: best and make the best decisions, they're the ones that 379 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 4: are sort of defining gravity, like the way the Lions 380 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 4: have for the last few years. Also like the Cats. 381 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 4: You know, Chris Scott's record is incredible in his time there, 382 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 4: so certainly something that we're watching. But yeah, again, we'll 383 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 4: just continue to keep an eye on it. 384 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: I might have missed this, so the West Coast League 385 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 3: has have put a request in first systems. 386 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 5: Have you ruled on that yet? 387 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 4: That's been assessed at the moment. Met with Don Pike 388 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 4: this afternoon and we'll have a we'll have an announcement 389 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 4: on that early next week. 390 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: The Tom Stewart concussion has brought into fierce focus the 391 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: pre finals by the potential for the pre file Grand 392 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: Final by which people have advocated for some time. 393 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: So we both have have personal views on that. What 394 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: is your view right now? 395 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 4: Well, I think the first part is, you know Tom 396 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 4: Steward got a concussion last week. I hope he's recovering. Well. 397 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 4: I think they're conflating someone having to miss a minimum 398 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 4: of twelve days because of the concussion protocols with the 399 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 4: preliminitent of after the preliminary finals isn't something that I 400 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 4: buy into. I think if we decided that that was 401 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 4: the best way to build up to the Grand Final, 402 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 4: then I'm all for that. The unfortunate thing and it's 403 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 4: going to be Tom's going to be unfortunate this year. 404 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 4: Lucky Neil may or may not get up. We have 405 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 4: unfortunately players miss grand finals because of injuries, so we 406 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 4: can't legislate or we can't schedule our way around that. 407 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 4: Since we bought in the pre finals by and had 408 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 4: that week off as it's allowed us to have great 409 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 4: flexibility with Round twenty four. It's allowed us flexibility with 410 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 4: the Thursday night finals, and we've actually seen our top 411 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 4: eight become a true top eight. So clubs that don't 412 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 4: make the top four if they play well have got 413 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 4: the ability to make prelims and grand finals. Under the 414 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 4: previous iteration. Before that pre finals by, I think we 415 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 4: only ever had one or two teams from outside the 416 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 4: top four make a prelimb. 417 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 2: So are you comfortable with the way so those patterns 418 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 2: have altered quite remarkably and quite obviously. 419 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: Are you comfortable with that how they have altered? 420 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? Look I am. I think what it has done 421 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 4: is actually really builds up those our nine finals in 422 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 4: our final series just to be every single game an 423 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 4: absolute event and with a lot riding on it. And yes, 424 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 4: I want a top eight to be a top eight. 425 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 4: There's advantages for being first, there's an advantage for being second, 426 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 4: third and fourth you get the double chance, fifth and 427 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 4: sixth you get the home final. So there is differences 428 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 4: in the ladder, but you still want to finish on 429 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 4: top if you can. 430 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 5: Where does that leave the world card weekend? 431 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's a good question because we are looking 432 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 4: at and if we're talking about hope for fans, games 433 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 4: of consequence, because that's what our fans want. Potentially expanding 434 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 4: a top eight to be a version of a top 435 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 4: ten or top nine is something that we're going to 436 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 4: look at in the offseason. And again one of the 437 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 4: things that would be a big consideration is that how 438 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 4: does that How much would that alter what we have had, 439 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 4: which have been some incredible finals series in the last 440 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 4: ten years. 441 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: So you don't sound like a pre Grand final by guy? 442 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: Is that a fair read? 443 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 4: I think that's a fair read. But I said, but 444 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 4: it's something that you know, you've got to take all 445 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 4: the data in and get the feedback. But as I 446 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 4: sit here now, I think to move from where we 447 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 4: have been, it's a big decision. 448 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: Tribunal is sitting tonight, which had Hawthorne qualified, would have 449 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 2: been the biggest story of the week. So let's join 450 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: David Zena. David, Welcome, Hello, Jered, Gary Andrew. 451 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: How has Marby or Choll fanned. He's fared very well. 452 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 9: He's free to play at the start of next season. 453 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 9: So the dangerous tackle bands we've seen upheld at so 454 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 9: many tribunals over the journey not the case this time. Now, 455 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 9: the key differentiating factor for the tribunal in this case 456 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 9: was Sam Butler's involvement. Now there's a tangle of legs, 457 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 9: and Sam Butler's involvement causes this tackle to become a 458 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 9: bit different to those that we've seen in the past. 459 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 4: Now, Paul Curtis's. 460 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 9: Tackle was brought up as evidence in one regard. Now 461 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 9: the tribunal had regard to that, but said the circumstances 462 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 9: of Paul Curtis's. 463 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: Tackle did not change mid tackle. 464 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 9: The circumstances of Marbi or Choll's tackle did change mid 465 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 9: tackle because of the involvement of Butler, and there was 466 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 9: insufficient time for him to do anything other than what 467 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 9: he did, So the hawk said it wasn't rough conduct. 468 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 9: Mabi or Tchrol didn't give evidence, but he did argue 469 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 9: via Hawthorne that there was. 470 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: A tangling of legs that contributed to this. 471 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 9: The nature of this tackle to roll allbeit late, but 472 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 9: the tribunal was very steadfast, Jeff Gleason saying, the reason 473 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 9: this one isn't dangerous and isn't unreasonable in the circumstances 474 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 9: is because of how it changes due to Sam Butler's involvement. 475 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 9: So that's the key differentiator here with other dangerous tackles 476 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 9: we've seen, the Paul Curtis one mainly, which was brought 477 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 9: up as well by both parties in the deliberation. So 478 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 9: ultimately MABI or chold free to play at the start 479 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 9: of twenty twenty six. 480 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: David, thank you. That is the system working well, the 481 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 2: two arms of it. What do you think of that verdict? Well, 482 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: I think David explained it well. I was comfortable that 483 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 2: the MRO made the charge, but I think having the 484 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 2: ability to argue the case and have it assessed comfortable 485 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 2: with where it's landed. But again, I mean I think 486 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: that the thoughts are really with Tom Stewart making sure 487 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 2: that he recovers from that concussion. 488 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: The primary final four point thirty five fifteen start sunsetting 489 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 3: magnificent bit of daylight into halftime, but at nighttime. 490 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 5: Was ass beautiful. 491 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, it was a great weekend of footy. 492 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 5: We have to look at these pictures here Andrew. This 493 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 5: this is a showcase of our game. 494 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: No one had ever looked at more pictures on Fox 495 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: Sport under that game what happens at this time slot. 496 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a great game. It was an incredible weekend. 497 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 4: Nearly nearly one hundred thousand on Friday night and then 498 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 4: followed up it was an amazing weekend of footy. And 499 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 4: then you know, I think we have over one hundred 500 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 4: thousand again this weekend for the Grand Final. 501 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: So could you see a Grand Final looking like that? 502 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 4: Oh look, you sort of never say never, but you know, 503 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 4: we've got a day Grand Final this year. It'll be crowded, 504 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 4: over one hundred thousand. It'll be the highest rating show 505 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 4: on TV in Australia for the year. 506 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 5: Snoop Diggie dogged like that. The sun going down over 507 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 5: the back. 508 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 4: Snoop will pretty good today actually in the daylight as well, 509 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 4: kicking he's kicking his goals and meeting Josh and Nick there. 510 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 5: But when Joe sit down with him, you get to 511 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 5: spend a bit of time with the double G. 512 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 4: I think I might be seeing you on Thursday. 513 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 5: You got all this lingo down pad or what. 514 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 4: I might have to get some lessons from you guys. 515 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 4: But yeah, you seem like you're with it. 516 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 10: There's not a bad jag from yeah Snoopstone. He kicks 517 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 10: the one around the corner as well, and what are 518 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 10: you expecting? I know it's been well debated and that's okay. 519 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 10: Everyone's got their opinion. Is there any degree of trepidation? 520 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 4: No, look, there's not. I mean he's performed at the 521 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 4: super Bowl, he's performed at the Olympics. He's a global 522 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 4: icon and he's really buying into it. And I think 523 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 4: he'll put on a show. It won't necessarily be to 524 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 4: everyone's tastes, but that's not a bad kid. It's magnificent, 525 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 4: But he will. I think you'll put on a great show, 526 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 4: and I think you'll bring a new audience to our game. 527 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 5: Did you do you have to? Okay? The playlist. I'm 528 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 5: not a big music man, so I. 529 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 4: Don't really look not me, but we're aware of what 530 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 4: the playlist is and I think there'll be some songs 531 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 4: that most people recognize. 532 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 2: Andrew, great to have you with us, thank good laughing 533 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: by yeah, thanks so much for having me on other 534 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 2: week ahead. Andrew Dillon, the chief executive of the AFL 535 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 2: about to join us. Patrick Dangerfield, Geelong captain with a 536 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 2: big days ahead on Saturday, and he is. 537 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: The innormural winner of the GVP. The Fort hierarchy is 538 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: here to award the Mustang to date