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Speaker 1: On sky Lives Ostrodia.

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Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panalty Show. Good evening and welcome

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Speaker 2: to the Rida Panety Show. Coming up tonight, massive job

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Speaker 2: cuts coming to the public sector as Victoria's debt skyrockets

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Speaker 2: to new highs. Laban the Coalition to prepare their ad

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Speaker 2: campaigns for the upcoming election, will analyze the good, the bad,

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Speaker 2: and the ugly. Mi Horowitz will join me with the

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Speaker 2: latest from the US, including Donald Trump's attacks against President Zelenski,

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Speaker 2: and later in the hour, Kinsey Schofield joins me with

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Speaker 2: the latest on all the celebrity and royal news, including

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Speaker 2: Elon Musk's a thirteenth Child and Left He's Losing. It

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Speaker 2: features a number of hysterical clowns, including this one.

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Speaker 3: With concentration camps looming in the United States. Here's what

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Speaker 3: queer people are doing. Yes, I said concentration camps. You

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Speaker 3: can maga.

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Speaker 2: But first, the Australian Defense for is closely monitoring a

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Speaker 2: fleet of Chinese warships which were spotted sailing just two

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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy six kilometers away from Sydney. The vessels

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Speaker 2: were first detected in international waters off the Queensland coast

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Speaker 2: last week I have been traveling down the Australian coastline.

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Speaker 2: Defense Minister Richard Miles described the ship's activity as unusual.

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Speaker 4: There is no doubt that this is not unprecedented, but

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Speaker 4: an unusual event.

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Speaker 2: The fleet is believed to be the furthest that Chinese

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Speaker 2: ships have ventured down the coastline of Australia outside of

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Speaker 2: an official visit. Joining me now for more on this

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Speaker 2: is a senior fellow at the Menzies Research Center, Nick Kaita. Nick,

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Speaker 2: is this something that should be concerning authorities?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think it should be concerning Richard Miles a

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Speaker 5: bit more. He just says, well, it's unusual.

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Speaker 6: To me.

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Speaker 5: This is positively spooky. Reta. I mean, why on earth

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Speaker 5: would the Chinese have any reason to waste of perfectly

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Speaker 5: good warship sailing this far south unless they had hostile

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Speaker 5: intentions on Australia. Maybe they're on the way to take

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Speaker 5: over Tasmania or something. I don't know, but I mean,

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Speaker 5: the point is that they have legitimate security and strategic

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Speaker 5: interests around China. But I think this kind of thing

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Speaker 5: is provocative. I'd like to know if they notified the

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Speaker 5: Australian government they were going to do this, and I'd

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Speaker 5: like to know what the Australian government's response has been,

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Speaker 5: because from the sound of what Richard Miles is saying,

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Speaker 5: it might be yeah, this is a bit unusual Beijing,

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Speaker 5: you know. No, we should be reading the right act

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Speaker 5: to them, because as we know, they have their eyes

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Speaker 5: on the Pacific.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 2: I would hope that behind the scenes that they are

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Speaker 2: much stronger in expressing and their feelings about this. Perhaps

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Speaker 2: they're being diplomatic in the media and not saying much,

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Speaker 2: but I do fear give it the form of this

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Speaker 2: government that they're just as weak behind the scenes now

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Speaker 2: Asioboss Mike Burgess has warned of foreign government hit lists

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Speaker 2: and plots to steal defense secrets during his sixth and

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Speaker 2: most sobering annual threat assessment. He gave this last night.

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Speaker 2: I talked about countries such as Russia Iran ramping up

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Speaker 2: sabotage operations against Australia. Here's part of what he had

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Speaker 2: to say last night.

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Speaker 7: As investigations have identified at least three different countries plotting

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Speaker 7: to physically harm people in Australia in a small number

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Speaker 7: of cases, we held great fears for the life of

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Speaker 7: the person being targeted. Working with our international partners, we

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Speaker 7: determine this plot was part of a broader effort by

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Speaker 7: the raging to eliminate critics of the foreign government around

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Speaker 7: the world, activists, journalists, ordinary citizens.

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Speaker 8: Nick.

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Speaker 2: He also spoke about the threats facing the Australian Jewish community.

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Speaker 7: Antisemitism fested in Australia before the tragic events in the

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Speaker 7: Middle East, but the drawn out conflict gave it oxygen

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Speaker 7: and some anti Semites and excuse. Jewish Australians were also

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Speaker 7: increasingly conflated with the State of Israel, leading to an

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Speaker 7: increase in anti Semitic incidents.

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Speaker 2: Nick, It's frightening to think that we've got countries like

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Speaker 2: Iran planning to use violence to silence their critics who

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Speaker 5: It's extremely concerning, but also this use of misinformation which

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Speaker 5: comes from places like Russia and probably Iran and China too.

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Speaker 5: The rise of this anti Jewish feeling has been sudden

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Speaker 5: and dramatic, and although I don't think we yet have

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Speaker 5: high evidence of this, the New South Wales Police have

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Speaker 5: at least canvased the idea that this might be funded

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Speaker 5: by foreign money. And I think if you look at

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Speaker 5: this whole pro Palestinian thing around the world. It's clear

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Speaker 5: that somebody is putting serious money into this and filtering

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Speaker 5: down various organizations. So this should be alarming. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I think we tend to be a little bit relaxed

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Speaker 5: and comfortable over this stuff in Australia, a little bit

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Speaker 5: naive perhaps thinking, oh, you know, we're good fellows. People

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Speaker 5: come down here to pat our coalas and have their

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Speaker 5: photo taken outside the opera house. But no, you know,

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Speaker 5: in the minds of you, malicious countries like North Korea,

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Speaker 5: like like Iran, like China, like Russia, they're perfectly prepared

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Speaker 5: to go to one evilence it takes to meddle in

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Speaker 5: our democracy, undermine our democracy, and take direct action against

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Speaker 5: people that they see as a threat.

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Speaker 2: And Nick, you spoke about the increase in anti Semitism,

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Speaker 2: and there seems to be real institutional power behind some

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Speaker 2: of this sentiment, particularly when you look at what's happening

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Speaker 2: on our university campuses. What some of these academics are saying.

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Speaker 2: We're not just talking about a few people on the

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Speaker 2: fringes who've got no power, no influence, People in prominent

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Speaker 2: positions influencing young minds are viewing this poison.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, of course they want to portray this as

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Speaker 5: some kind of spontaneous community reaction, because it's nothing like that.

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Speaker 5: We've been watching the left for twenty years or more

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Speaker 5: to see their modus operandian and whether it's climate change

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Speaker 5: or transgender rights or whatever the cause, when you delve

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Speaker 5: into it, there is serious money going into these causes,

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Speaker 5: deliberately fueling and funding people to work full time on

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Speaker 5: these campaigns. I've got no reason to believe it's any

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Speaker 5: different at all with this anti Jewish movement, the pro

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Speaker 5: Palestinian movement, which is disrupting our civil fabric. It is

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Speaker 5: really putting it threat the whole idea of sort of

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Speaker 5: multiculturalism I wanted to work, but now I'm doubting it

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Speaker 5: with this going on. But if we don't think that

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Speaker 5: there's foreign actors or even people within Australia who deliberately

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Speaker 5: provoke this, then we're just totally naive.

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Speaker 2: Now let's go to Victoria. Premier Justint Allen has announced

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Speaker 2: a plan to cut down on the state's bureaucracy. It's

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Speaker 2: going to be fairly severe cuts. Next sources of claiming

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Speaker 2: that more than six and a half thousand jobs could

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Speaker 2: be acts from Victoria's fifty five thousand strong public service.

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Speaker 2: This comes amid revelations that the state's wages bill has

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Speaker 2: nearly doubled from when labor first came to power. So

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Speaker 2: we've gone from eighteen point eight billion to thirty seven

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Speaker 2: point five billion, and that wages bill blew out by

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Speaker 2: three billion in just one year. And it comes after

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Speaker 2: a report by the state's financial watchdog showed that cost

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Speaker 2: of major projects in Victoria had blown out by close

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Speaker 2: to eleven point seven billion. That's with a B in

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Speaker 2: just the past year. Nick, Victoria is in serious financial peril.

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Speaker 2: There's no other way to describe the record debt.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's six and a half thousand. They're talking about

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Speaker 5: worst case scenario. That's just a drop in the ocean. Retail.

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Speaker 5: You know, the public service in Victoria increased by seventeen

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Speaker 5: percent during COVID, and you expect after that, you know,

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Speaker 5: people go back to the normal day jobs, but no,

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Speaker 5: it's kept growing since then. So this is a very

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Speaker 5: small cut of a very large number of people that

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Speaker 5: this government has put on to the payroll. And you

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Speaker 5: bet your bottom dollar that they won't be cutting this

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Speaker 5: in any logical fashion, if they cut it at all.

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Speaker 5: I mean, after all, the review is being led by

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Speaker 5: a senior Victoria form of sceenior Victoria public servant. So

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Speaker 5: it's highly Elon Musk, is it.

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Speaker 9: You know?

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Speaker 5: So I don't take this seriously, but there's certainly a

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Speaker 5: need to cut. And you make the point about infrastructure, right,

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Speaker 5: Their infrastructure products are blown out. Not only that, you

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Speaker 5: know you're not actually finishing anything in Victoria.

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Speaker 2: Are you.

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Speaker 5: I mean you don't want to come here and look

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Speaker 5: at our railways and our tunnels. You'd have infratry structure

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Speaker 5: envy here in New Touth Whales because we've just got

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Speaker 5: the stuff down. They haven't done that in Victoria. So

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Speaker 5: they're paying more, they've got a larger public service and

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Speaker 5: it's actually doing less. It's less effective. Something has to happen,

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Speaker 5: doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you would hope. So if you unleashed someone like

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Speaker 2: an Elon Musk in Victoria, it would be remarkable the

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Speaker 2: way we would find. Just give them a month and

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Speaker 2: I think things would sort out fairly quickly. But we

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Speaker 2: don't have anybody like that. Before you go talking about

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Speaker 2: mad spending, it's been revealed that federal and state and

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Speaker 2: local governments are spending madly. The expended check is exceeding

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Speaker 2: more than a trillion dollars combined last year, even more

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Speaker 2: than they were spending during COVID and Nick, this exorbitant

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Speaker 2: spending is certainly helping to keep inflation high and discouraging

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Speaker 2: the RBA from lowering the hash rate further.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think people get this message now. People understand

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Speaker 5: that inflation is driven by too much money circulating the

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Speaker 5: economy and if the government's pumping money and then that's

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Speaker 5: a big cause. So, you know, we get that sort

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Speaker 5: of you know, tiny rate drop from the RBA this week,

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Speaker 5: which I'm sure is welcome, but very small for mortgage owners.

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Speaker 5: But you know, there's two ways to fight inflation. One

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Speaker 5: is to raise interest rates. The other is for the

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Speaker 5: government to cut its own spending. Well, the government hasn't

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Speaker 5: cut its own spending, so mortgage rates have risen even

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Speaker 5: higher than they should have had to. So, you know,

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Speaker 5: because the government can't spend cure its own spending habit,

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Speaker 5: ordinary people with mortgages have to take the brunt of that.

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Speaker 5: It's totally unfair.

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Speaker 2: Nick Keta, thanks for your time. Tonight, let's talk about

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Speaker 2: political messaging. Joining me now as DPR and co advertising

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Speaker 2: founder Richard Ralph Smith Richard. The major parties have already

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Speaker 2: started ramping up their ad campaigns ahead of the upcoming election,

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Speaker 2: and both parties seem to be focused on extending their

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Speaker 2: reach on social media. Here's what Labor's pushing.

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Speaker 4: These are all cost of living measures introduced by the

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Speaker 4: federal Labor government because we understand the pressure families are

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Speaker 4: under and every little bit helps.

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Speaker 2: But look who was opposed to every single one of them.

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Speaker 9: Whichever way you look at it.

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Speaker 2: You'll be worse off under Dune. It may be a

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Speaker 2: little bit boring, but I think that's actually a pretty

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Speaker 2: effective ads. It's focused on cost of living. It's simple,

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Speaker 2: easy to understand.

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Speaker 6: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 10: It's simple, and it's clear whether it's going to be effective.

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Speaker 10: I'm not entirely sure. We know cost of living is

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Speaker 10: the biggest issue in the election, but when you look

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Speaker 10: at the big cost of living issues housing, food and energy,

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Speaker 10: that ad doesn't really touch the first two and then

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Speaker 10: the third one has been Labour's biggest broken promise and

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Speaker 10: it puts the emphasis on that. So I do wonder

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Speaker 10: whether people look at it and go right, You've given

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Speaker 10: me three hundred dollars as a handout, but does that

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Speaker 10: really compensate further massive increase in my energy bills? So

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Speaker 10: I wonder about its effectiveness from that point of view.

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Speaker 10: Time will tell, And I also wonder whether or not

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Speaker 10: we're seeing very early. You know, is labor going to

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Speaker 10: make the same mistake by demonizing or over demonizing.

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Speaker 6: It's a very Dutton focused.

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Speaker 10: Ad, a conservative leader from the liberal side, because every

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Speaker 10: time they've done that, you know Howard Abbott now Dutton,

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Speaker 10: it has backfired.

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Speaker 10: Days, very early days, he ought to go bolder, and

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Speaker 2: That sounds like an absolutely brilliant idea because the Greens

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Speaker 4: Nuclear uses forty percent more water than even coal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and not only is it per but will Peter

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Speaker 2: And this isn't enough. I just don't think think they

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Speaker 6: Satire that's complicated, isn't it.

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Speaker 10: I can't even remember. I've got to read what was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen those. Yes.

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Speaker 10: Is that it's time he's Labour's attempts to paint Peter

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 10: He makes Peter Dutton look mild, moderate considered, and I

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Speaker 2: Bad point as well, because our media has just been

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Speaker 2: So there is this real negative connotation and labor of

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Speaker 2: work for Peter Dutton. Fascinating. Richard Ralph Smith, thanks so

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Speaker 2: much for your time tonight, Thanks again, Champ. Still to

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, And now it's time for lefties losing it.

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Speaker 2: And we've been showcasing spectacularly unfunny comedians broken by their

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Speaker 2: And I've got another one for you, sad Brick John Oliver,

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Speaker 2: though in his defense he details here precisely why Donald

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Speaker 1: In just the past four weeks, he's pardoned or commuted.

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Speaker 1: The sentences of January sixth, writers withdrew the US from

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Speaker 2: You know what, Donald Trump should use that in his

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Speaker 2: next ad campaign. Promises made, promises kept. Thanks for the update,

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Speaker 2: John Oliver. Now to possibly the dumbest woman in America.

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Speaker 13: And yes, I know that is a big claim, but

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Speaker 2: This is a woman who said that Republicans who weren't

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Speaker 2: October seven. Incredible, and she claimed that Republicans want to

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Speaker 2: about a thousand other examples of how irredeemably thick this

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Speaker 14: I would ABC Disney, the mouse who has more money

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Speaker 2: I honestly don't know.

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Speaker 14: You know, I've asked why would ABC? But people ask

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Speaker 2: Yes, reader, the audacity of that dim wit is astonishing,

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Speaker 3: With concentration camps looming in the United States, here's what

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Speaker 3: This isn't for permanency. This is for a week of

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Speaker 3: getting by off the grid. We're going to have anything

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Speaker 3: ready for the pets that we're taking with us, So

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Speaker 3: put some cat litter in your trunk.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget the cat litter. That's very important. You know what?

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Speaker 2: That is so wacky that almost suspect he's trolling us,

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Speaker 2: but I'm told it's real. And really, with the craziness

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Speaker 2: of the modern left these days, it's becoming increasingly difficult

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Speaker 2: to distinguish between satire and lefties losing it. Like this

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Speaker 2: dude who wants to kick gas white Zionist men out

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Speaker 2: of the lgbt community.

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Speaker 12: I'm finally starting to realize that white gay Zionists should

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Speaker 12: be demoted from being gay, Like it's not okay for

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Speaker 12: someone to be so open and accepting of queer culture

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Speaker 12: or be part of the LGBTQ community when you are

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Speaker 12: supporting genocide. These type of gays, let me tell you,

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Speaker 12: they are the worst. They are the worst because they

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Speaker 12: are basically becoming their oppressors.

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Speaker 2: So if you're a white gay man who believes Israel

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Speaker 2: has a right to exist, then you're backing your oppressors.

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Speaker 2: Does that income Poop realize that Israel is the only

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Speaker 2: country in the Middle East where gay men enjoy real rights,

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Speaker 2: freedom's protections. I want to go announcing your gayness or

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Speaker 2: your membership of the LGBTQ community in places like Gaza,

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Speaker 2: you be thrown off the roof of any building that's

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Speaker 2: still standing. But this is not isolated. This suicidely stupid

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Speaker 2: impulse of lefties to back regimes that would have them killed.

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Speaker 2: Have a look at this slot.

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Speaker 15: Between these two choices, who would you say is more

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Speaker 15: likely to be supportive of the LGBTQ community.

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Speaker 16: Okay.

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Speaker 17: Why would you say that because he's a brown person

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Speaker 17: and he's not for Trump.

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Speaker 15: Do you think the fact that he's part of her

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Speaker 15: eyes would stop him from supporting that community?

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Speaker 7: Not at all?

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Speaker 2: Probably Number one? Number one persons.

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Speaker 15: Why would you say that because Trump supporters are typically

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Speaker 15: anti LGBT Number one?

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Speaker 11: Okay?

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Speaker 8: What makes you say that they just look kinder?

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Speaker 15: Kinder? Do you think that you know somebody that's, say,

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Speaker 15: a member of her eyes, would be supportive of the

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Speaker 15: gay community.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost impossible to adequately describe how ill informed

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Speaker 2: these kids are, and their vote counts is just as

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Speaker 2: much as yours does. Scary, isn't it now? Sticking with

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Speaker 2: a crazy Let's check in with the Cathedral of Hope

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Speaker 2: Church in Dallas here. This is a church in Texas

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Speaker 2: which had a drag queen do it in a wig

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Speaker 2: an address joking about killing those who voted for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 18: Any don't voted for Trump?

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Speaker 3: Please don't tell us. No, don't tell us.

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Speaker 18: Or do you and.

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Speaker 3: Cap we start keep voting for Trump?

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Speaker 5: Okay, because how we will kill you?

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's a drag fundraiser at a church in Dallas, Texas.

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Speaker 2: And that's the same church that had this depravity, including

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Speaker 2: some degenerate in a leather dog mask on.

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Speaker 16: All fourste our guests, our family to come and join

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Speaker 16: me for a moment, especially the members of the Lonestare

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Speaker 16: Royal Court, the sisters of Perpetrol Indulgence, and members of

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Speaker 16: the Bears. If you were with us this morning, would

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Speaker 16: you just come and join me up the front, and

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Speaker 16: asked the clergy to come down to the front.

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Speaker 2: And thanks to Sarah Gonzalez for bringing us those clips.

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Speaker 2: Now we need some light relief. And here is an

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Speaker 2: actually funny comedian. This is Jerry Seinfeld. And watch how

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Speaker 2: he gracefully dismisses some loser who asks for a selfie

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Speaker 2: pretending to be a fan before getting political about Palestine.

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Speaker 2: Gonna get a selfie?

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Speaker 3: Sure, free Palestine, I don't care about bastline.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now is filmmaker and journalist Army Horowitz. Army,

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Speaker 2: let's start with us efforts to brokor eight peace still

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Speaker 2: between Russia and Ukraine. And it's clear Trump is pulling

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Speaker 2: out all stops to encourage some would say bully President

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Speaker 2: Zelenski to agree to a deal. He's launched an attack

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Speaker 2: on the Ukrainian leader, calling him a dictator without elections

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Speaker 2: and saying he's done a terrible job. And I mean,

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Speaker 2: this has shocked the world, But it shouldn't have shocked them,

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Speaker 2: because if they were paying attention during the election campaign,

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Speaker 2: it was clear that Donald Trump wants an end to

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Speaker 2: this war and he wants to stop sending billions to Ukraine.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Okay, Look, first of all, let me start by saying

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Speaker 9: I said it on this program I've set to public

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Speaker 9: in other places. I've been a firm and solid supporter

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Speaker 9: of the war against Russia by Ukraine and for a

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Speaker 9: variety of reasons. Real quick, the fact we've had this one.

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Speaker 9: This is from a real politic perspective, Right, what if

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Speaker 9: this war has done. It has degraded and in fact

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Speaker 9: almost destroyed the Russian military, degrade almost destroyed the Russian economy.

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Speaker 9: Take our essentially are one of our biggest geopolitical foes

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Speaker 9: off the board for almost a generation. What it's also done,

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Speaker 9: it has made a very clear and important message to China,

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Speaker 9: which says, look, if we're willing to go to the

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Speaker 9: mattresses for Ukraine, which is not as important to us

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Speaker 9: as Taiwan, imagine what we're gonna do for Taiwan. I

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Speaker 9: think China understands that, and I think even more importantly,

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Speaker 9: it has allowed NATO to understand the importance of self

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Speaker 9: reliance and the importance of self defense. I think that's

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Speaker 9: a vital part of the equation. Look what he said.

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Speaker 9: It was outrageous. But I am done condemning Trump for

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Speaker 9: his crazy statements. I've done it before and I've been burned. Okay,

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Speaker 9: he did that with NATO. He said, unhinged things, We're

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Speaker 9: gonna leave NATO. Well, guess what happened. They called them crazy,

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Speaker 9: they called them insane. Well, before he made that statement,

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Speaker 9: the vast majority of NATO countries were not paying their

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Speaker 9: two percent of defense spending. After he made those statements,

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Speaker 9: now the vast majority of those thirty one countries are

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Speaker 9: in fact paying their two percent. Okay, he said, we're

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Speaker 9: going to invade Greenland, right, crazy man, What does this

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Speaker 9: guy say? Well, guess what his point was, Hey, Denmark,

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Speaker 9: you're not doing your job with Greenland. Greenland's an important

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Speaker 9: strategic point. Choke hold o this in the Western Hemisphere,

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Speaker 9: and you are not doing your job with time and

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Speaker 9: money defending and making sure that Chinese and Russian ships

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Speaker 9: and submarines are not crossing compunity, Well guess what they

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Speaker 9: are now. Denmark now is spending more money and time

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Speaker 9: in Greenland. So look, I'm done condemning Trump for crazy things.

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Speaker 9: What do I think is happening here? I think he's

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Speaker 9: playing the heel, right, I think he's trying to bring

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Speaker 9: guten to the negotiating table. Putin has a fear of Trump.

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Speaker 9: Let's be honest. Why is there a fear of Trump?

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Speaker 9: Because actually Trump's record the first time around was supporting Ukraine.

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Speaker 9: For Trump, what did the US give under Barack Obama?

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Speaker 9: They gave them blanket? What did Trump do? He gave

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Speaker 9: them weapons. So he's trying to say to God the look,

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Speaker 9: I'm on your side, you can trust me. I'm down

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Speaker 9: with you. And I think that's ultimately what is needed

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Speaker 9: to end up bropriate peace deal. So let's see what

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Speaker 9: happens before we go crazy.

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Speaker 2: And what's that line from the Art of War? You

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Speaker 2: build your enemy a golden bridge to retreat on something

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Speaker 2: like that, And I think that's part of this entire strategy.

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Speaker 2: But I'm glad you've learned because many other analysts clearly

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Speaker 2: haven't learned about waiting and seeing what the impact of

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Speaker 2: Trump's rehtoric and actions actually are. And in this case,

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Speaker 2: some of that is already apparent. It's been immediate. We've

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Speaker 2: seen a number of European countries being motivated to do more.

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Speaker 2: This is what Donald Trump wants. Within hours of Trump's

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Speaker 2: comments about Zelensky, European countries to Ukraine support promising increased

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Speaker 2: defense and security is spending within Day's army. This is

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Speaker 2: precisely what Donald Trump wants to see.

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Speaker 9: I think people tickle. The Europeans know is reactionary. We

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Speaker 9: don't know what he's going to do. But if that

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Speaker 9: rhetoric that he does which pushes them in the direction

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Speaker 9: he wants them to go, it's all negotiating tactic. It's

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Speaker 9: all about the art of the deal. Yeah, I'm here

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Speaker 9: for it.

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Speaker 2: And Americans have made it clear they don't want to

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Speaker 2: see these forever wars ten years, twenty years. They don't

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Speaker 2: even want to be involved financially in these wars. Now

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Speaker 2: contrasts that to how President Biden made executive decisions that

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Speaker 2: some of them he wasn't anyone aware of. According to

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Speaker 2: Speaker Mike Johnson, have a listen to this story real quickly.

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Speaker 17: Miss President can I ask you a question. I cannot

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Speaker 17: answer this from my constituents in Louisiana.

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Speaker 9: Sir, why did you.

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Speaker 17: Pause llenng exports to Europe? Like I don't understand. You know, look,

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Speaker 17: find natural gas is in great demand by our allies.

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Speaker 17: Why would you do that because you understand we just

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Speaker 17: talked about Ukraine. You understand your fuel in Vladimir Putin's

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Speaker 17: war machine because they got to get their gas from.

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Speaker 6: Him, you know.

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Speaker 17: And he looks at me, stunned with this, and he

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Speaker 17: said I didn't.

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Speaker 6: I didn't do that.

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Speaker 17: And I said, miss President, yes you did. It was

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Speaker 17: an executive order like you know, three weeks ago. And

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Speaker 17: he goes, no, I didn't do that, and he's arguing

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Speaker 17: with me. I said, miss President, respectfully, can I could

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Speaker 17: I go out here and ask your secretary to print

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Speaker 17: it out. We'll read it together. You definitely did that,

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Speaker 17: and he goes, oh, you talk about natural gas? Yes, sir,

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Speaker 17: he said, oh no, did you misunderstand? He said what

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Speaker 17: I did is I signed this thing to We're going

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Speaker 17: to conduct a study on the effects of LERG. I said, no,

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Speaker 17: you're not, sir, you paused it. I know I have

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Speaker 17: the terminal the export terminals in my state. I talked

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Speaker 17: to those people this morning, your this is doing massive

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Speaker 17: damage to our economy, national security.

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Speaker 2: It occurred to me, Barry, he.

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Speaker 6: Was not lying to me.

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Speaker 17: He genuinely did not know what he had signed. And

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Speaker 17: I walked out of that meeting with fear and loathing.

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Speaker 2: Will we ever know who was making those decisions during

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Speaker 2: those four years? And again you talk about retorick versus reality.

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Speaker 2: And despite what Donald Trump has said, even during his

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Speaker 2: first term, he was in Europe warning the Germans about

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Speaker 2: becoming reliant on Russian energy, telling them that this was

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Speaker 2: going to cause them issues down the track, and they

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Speaker 2: laughed at him, Army. The contrast between the two leaders

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Speaker 2: could not be greater. Can we just.

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Speaker 9: Let Biden go the long good night? Do we really

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Speaker 9: have to go over all this? Oh the fuck?

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Speaker 12: Yes.

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Speaker 2: I want to know who was making the decisions. I

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Speaker 2: want to know who was ruling the world, who was

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Speaker 2: in the chair as the leader of the free world,

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Speaker 2: Because it appears it wasn't Joe Biden.

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Speaker 9: I want this story to be apocryphal, okay, because it is.

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Speaker 9: It was truth, and I have no reason to doubt

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Speaker 9: Speaker Johnson. It is one of the worst things I

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Speaker 9: have ever heard. The man didn't know that he was

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Speaker 9: pausing natural gas shipments at the US. I mean, that's

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Speaker 9: crazy town if that's true. Look, this is exactly why

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Speaker 9: they You want to know who was in charge. It

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Speaker 9: was a It was doctor Jill Biden, right, the greatest

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Speaker 9: doctor says doctor Pepper and doctor j And it was

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Speaker 9: a cadre of unelected officials that were primarily from the

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Speaker 9: bamadministration who wrung the show. Of course it wasn't Joe Biden.

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Speaker 9: When you're talking about rhetoric versus reality, Biden wasn't living

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Speaker 9: in reality. Are you kidding me? He didn't know reality

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Speaker 9: was Frankly Luita. That's the charitable version of this. The

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Speaker 9: uncharitable version is that, look, he knew exactly what you're

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Speaker 9: saying and exactly what he's doing, and he sees that

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Speaker 9: our energy independence as an evil because he is in

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Speaker 9: the pocket of the Green New Deal people, and he

657
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Speaker 9: simply wanted to make sure we had no ability to

658
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Speaker 9: have energy independence ourselves and no way to make money

659
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Speaker 9: on the stock. Even though the one thing you want

660
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Speaker 9: to do is you want to decrease again, going back

661
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Speaker 9: to Ukraine, decrease European dependence on Russian natural gas the

662
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Speaker 9: only lifeline Russia has. And how do you cut that

663
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Speaker 9: is by increasing and selling our natural gas to Europe. Look,

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Speaker 9: the whole thing is crazy, anyway, look at it. It's terrible, sad.

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Speaker 2: Gee, let's move on, let's move on. Let's talk about

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Speaker 2: the UK. Our great friend Douglas Murray has written a

667
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Speaker 2: fantastic piece about a poll that was released this week

668
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Speaker 2: showing that only forty one percent of young British people,

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Speaker 2: that's young people eighteen to twenty seven felt proud to

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Speaker 2: be British, just forty one percent. And you contrast that

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Speaker 2: to just twenty one years ago, back in two thousand

672
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Speaker 2: and four, the figure was eighty percent Army and I

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Speaker 2: would think this is not confined to the UK. This

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Speaker 2: is a phenomenon we're seeing in the Western world. And

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Speaker 2: I would argue it's a dangerous phenomenon.

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Speaker 9: Oh, it's not just that dangerous phenomenons. It's the death

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Speaker 9: of Western culture and Western supremacy. If that trend continues,

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Speaker 9: it's incredibly dangerous, it's incredibly awful. And look, Michelle Holdback

679
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Speaker 9: wrote this phenomenal book called Submission, and it was it

680
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 9: was I recommend everyone read. It's about how It was

681
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 9: a novel about how Islam took over France, and a

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Speaker 9: large part of that was because there was a lack

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Speaker 9: of French nationalism and the degradation of French nationalism. If

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Speaker 9: you indulge me with two personal stories, I think exemplifies this.

685
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Speaker 9: If you don't mind read A friend friends of mine,

686
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Speaker 9: visited it from from England a couple of years ago,

687
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Speaker 9: and their young daughter remarked to us and to their parents,

688
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Speaker 9: She's like, I don't understand why there's so many American flags.

689
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 9: That she was labrigased by it because the Union Jack

690
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 9: is flown nowhere in England. And then another story that

691
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Speaker 9: I've told before but it bears repeating, is that here

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Speaker 9: in the US, you know, my coffee shop that I

693
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 9: go to, like most coffee shops, right left leaning, and

694
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Speaker 9: during Gay Pride Month, they have the Gay Pride flag up.

695
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Speaker 9: And during Black History Month and I'm sorry doing Juneteenth,

696
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Speaker 9: they have a Juneteenth flag up. You don't flag they

697
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Speaker 9: don't have up during the Fourth of July the American flag. Right,

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Speaker 9: This is a problem we have with the left. The

699
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Speaker 9: left wants to destroy patriotism because when you destroy patriotism.

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Speaker 9: That's how you are able to remake society in their

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Speaker 9: own warped image. That's the goal, you know. During the

702
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 9: Spanish Civil War, Franco remarked, there are five there are

703
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Speaker 9: four nationalist columns approaching Madrid, and there's a fifth column

704
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Speaker 9: in Madrid looking to attack from within. That is what

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Speaker 9: the left is. The hard left is a fifth column

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Speaker 9: inside the United States and inside Western because they see

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Speaker 9: hatreotism as a wall against them, buttressing American society and

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Speaker 9: Western society, and they don't like that. They don't want that.

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Speaker 9: The good news is is that Trump he really made

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Speaker 9: massive strides with young people.

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Speaker 6: In this country.

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Speaker 9: We're hoping that gen Z is actually flipping the script

713
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Speaker 9: and will actually move more toward the Republican column and

714
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Speaker 9: more toward patriotism. And by the way, there's a fasting

715
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Speaker 9: article recently in The Atlantic about the youth and said

716
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Speaker 9: Covid is one of the major reasons why the youth

717
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Speaker 9: has moved to the right, because they saw their freedoms

718
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Speaker 9: being taken away and they didn't like it. So I'm

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Speaker 9: hoping there's hope we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's hype, sorry, I mean, because we said right

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Speaker 2: here in Australia country where every citizen should be proud

722
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Speaker 2: that so many youngsters have got that anti West sentiment.

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Speaker 2: Before you go, I just want to quickly ask you

724
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Speaker 2: about this latest executive order we're saying from Donald Trump.

725
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Speaker 2: He's probably signed more since this one. Yesterday, he signed

726
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Speaker 2: an order to expand access to IVF and other fertility

727
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Speaker 2: treatments through the reduction of out of pocket costs. Amy,

728
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Speaker 2: I'm sure we were told repeatedly throughout the election campaign

729
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Speaker 2: that Republicans wanted to ban IVF altogether. Obviously that's not

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Speaker 2: the case.

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Speaker 9: No, it's exactly this. You know, this is the trunk

732
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Speaker 9: Dranger syndrome exemplified right where everybody was out there saying

733
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Speaker 9: that Trump's against IVF just could take away the ability

734
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Speaker 9: to have children. The exact ops he telegraphed this. He

735
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Speaker 9: said he was supporter of IVF, he wanted to do this.

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Speaker 9: It's exactly what it did. Unfortunately, there are a lot

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Speaker 9: of people on the right who are actually condemning this.

738
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Speaker 9: I think this is an extremely pro life, pro family.

739
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Speaker 9: I think it's great, I think it's wonderful, and this

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Speaker 9: is how we lose elections.

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Speaker 6: We got to be careful.

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Speaker 2: Mey Horowitz, Thank you so much for your time. Tonight

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Speaker 2: still to come. The latest on Elon Musk's baby dramas a.

744
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Speaker 2: Kinsey Schofield has the details. Welcome back. Joining me now

745
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Speaker 2: is celebrity and role commentator Kinsey Schofield Kinsey. Some spicy

746
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Speaker 2: tweets between Elon Musk and Ashley Saint Clair have been uncovered,

747
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: following claims from Saint Clair that the pair have had

748
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Speaker 2: a child together. This would be Elon's thirteenth child. I

749
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Speaker 2: think the text are a little bit tawdry. Do we

750
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Speaker 2: have any confirmation yet of what is actually happening here?

751
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Speaker 8: I mean, you're exactly right.

752
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Speaker 18: I blush looking at the screen right now at some

753
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Speaker 18: of those messages, it appears that there's a little bit

754
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Speaker 18: of fomo going on, and that might be one of

755
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Speaker 18: the reasons why this is all kind of exploding at

756
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Speaker 18: this point in time. Imagine being Ashley watching Elon living

757
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Speaker 18: his best life, sitting next to the President and just

758
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Speaker 18: kind of I'm sure that she feels a little but

759
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Speaker 18: excluded after.

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Speaker 8: Creating with him.

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Speaker 18: But Elon, you know, there are rumors he has a

762
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Speaker 18: child with Amber heard we actually don't even know the

763
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Speaker 18: total when it comes to Elon and his babies.

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Speaker 2: So thirteen is just a guess, is it? My gosh?

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Speaker 2: That is just yes, well exactly because if there could

766
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Speaker 2: be any number of baby mammas around the world who

767
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Speaker 2: are just quietly raising their kids and not speaking with

768
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Speaker 2: a New York poster. Now, an acquaintance of Ashley Saint

769
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Speaker 2: Clair has said that the reason why she went public

770
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Speaker 2: with news of the pair's baby was because Elon Musk

771
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Speaker 2: had ghosted her on Valentine's Day, and, according to Saint Clair,

772
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Speaker 2: has been ghosting her ever since. The acquaintance Kylie Kramer

773
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Speaker 2: made these claims on x She wrote, seems like she

774
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Speaker 2: wasn't getting what she wanted, was emotional and hurt on

775
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Speaker 2: Valentine's and decided to parade her crazy on the front porch,

776
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Speaker 2: thinking people would be sympathetic to her as a victim

777
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Speaker 2: of a powerful, wealthy man. How reliable is this account

778
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Speaker 2: because she doesn't seem like too much of a friend

779
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Speaker 2: with it with those comments.

780
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Speaker 18: Well, that's a very good point, But I think that

781
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Speaker 18: she is taking a side that I've seen a lot

782
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Speaker 18: of females in the Conservative Party take, because these aren't

783
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Speaker 18: conservative values.

784
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Speaker 8: To have a baby with.

785
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Speaker 18: A man that's not your husband, and you know that's

786
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Speaker 18: just not really the conservative way. So I do think

787
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Speaker 18: that there is a lot of I don't know, judgment

788
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Speaker 18: coming from the party when it comes to this woman

789
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Speaker 18: who's supposed to be a conservative influencer, pushing morals and

790
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Speaker 18: values and having a strong character, having a baby out

791
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Speaker 18: of wedlock with one of the most powerful men in

792
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Speaker 18: the world, and then complaining about it wanting sympathy. You're

793
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Speaker 18: supposed to be, You're supposed to be somebody that people

794
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Speaker 18: can look up to as a quote unquote conservative influencer.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's the issue. I don't think that's

796
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Speaker 2: why they're having a go at her, because from what

797
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: I understand, she already was a single mumple before this child.

798
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Speaker 2: I think it's to do with going public. That's where

799
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: the angst comes from, about seeking attention or trying to

800
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Speaker 2: make something that should be a private affair into you know,

801
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Speaker 2: the tabloid news. I think that's where there's a bit

802
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: of heat. Whether that's fair or unfair is a discussion

803
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: for another day. Let's talk about one of our favorite

804
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: topics of the moment, the entire Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds

805
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 2: Justin Baldoni catastrophe. A saur s whit attended the recording

806
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: of Saturday Night Live's fiftieth anniversary show, told TMZ that Blake, Lively,

807
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: and Ryan Reynolds were the talk of the entire evening.

808
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: Many of the guests avoided them, and many of the

809
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Speaker 2: guests were big Hollywood stars, and Blake has shared this

810
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Speaker 2: intimate moment with alleged comedian Amy Schumer. According to a

811
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Speaker 2: professional libreader, during this footage, Blake told Schumer, I need

812
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 2: this hug so much, before glancing over at her husband,

813
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: Ryan Reynolds and saying, God help me. You're going to

814
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Speaker 2: be okay. Schumer responded, they're projecting onto him. This saga

815
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Speaker 2: isn't going to end anytime soon, is it, Kinsey, Because

816
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 2: we've got multiple court cases.

817
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 18: It's five the last day checked and the joke Ryan

818
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 18: Reynolds stands up and makes during the three hour special

819
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 18: Saturday Night Live Special, And you see the look on

820
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Speaker 18: Kevin Castner's face.

821
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Speaker 8: He's not amused. Kevin Castner.

822
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Speaker 18: You know, it looks like Kevin Castner thinks that this

823
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 18: is in Porteste. But Ryan kind of makes a joke.

824
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Speaker 18: You heard when asked if he's how he's doing. You know,

825
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Speaker 18: you don't joke about sexual harassment. And now the reports

826
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Speaker 18: are that Baldoni's team are just going to.

827
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Speaker 8: Take that little clip and head on.

828
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Speaker 18: Over into the courtroom a year from now and utilize

829
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Speaker 18: that to prove that potentially, you know, this is a

830
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Speaker 18: contradictory to Blake and Ryan's claim that they have all

831
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Speaker 18: of this emotional distress over justin Baldoni's behavior on the

832
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Speaker 18: set of It ends with us.

833
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: Now, let's turn our attention to Meghan Markol. She's had

834
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Speaker 2: a rebrand of her lifestyle line. I'm devastated about this, Kinsey,

835
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Speaker 2: because you know how much I've liked making fun of

836
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: American Riviera Orchid like the dumbest combination of names you've

837
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 2: ever put together. It's like a he gave the task

838
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Speaker 2: to an eight year old child and said, come up

839
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Speaker 2: with a fancy name. That's what they would that could

840
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Speaker 2: come up with. So that's gone. It's now called as ever.

841
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 2: But not only has she copied the logo allegedly, but

842
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: it's now come to light that a boutique in New York,

843
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 2: a clothing label, has been operating under that same name

844
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Speaker 2: for around a decade. Can say this is an ideal.

845
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 18: Yeah, they have, and you know they have said we

846
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 18: they're begging their followers please help us. We see our

847
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 18: digital footprint shrinking with every markll mention.

848
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Speaker 8: There's real concern there that this.

849
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Speaker 18: Could jeopardize their business established since twenty thirteen Rita. There's

850
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Speaker 18: also a professional photography company with the exact same name.

851
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Speaker 8: Does this woman not own an owner?

852
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 18: To do a quick Google search, Megan doesn't even own

853
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 18: the trademark yet for this. So you see how she

854
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 18: rushes things with little to no due diligence, and it

855
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 18: helps you to understand why she was not able to

856
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Speaker 18: function properly within the structure of the British royal.

857
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Speaker 8: Family, go by the rules.

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Speaker 18: They you know there are there's protocols in places for

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Speaker 18: a reason, and she just could not function in that structure.

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Speaker 2: No, and never mind the name. We've focused so much

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00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: on the silly name and now this borrowed name. What

862
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: is this website actually going to do? Because the last

863
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: we heard, she'd moved about three jars of strawberry jam,

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Speaker 2: gave them away to some prominent people, but does seemed

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Speaker 2: to be much product or services on offer on this website?

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Speaker 2: So I don't know how much of a lifestyle brand

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Speaker 2: it is yet. Kinsisco, Phil, thanks for your time tonight,

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Speaker 2: and that's it from me. I'll see you at nine

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