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Speaker 1: Elgan and Tiffany and cook high cookie hier HAPs you

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Speaker 1: are you're looking a little bit seedy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's been forty eight hours laying in my

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Speaker 2: bed eating frosty fruits.

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Speaker 1: I did get a snapshot of you. This is going

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Speaker 1: to sound much more exciting than it is. Folks of

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Speaker 1: please don't send me shit like that again, because I

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Speaker 1: got PTSD now and I can't get that fucking image

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Speaker 1: out of my head. It's out of my phone. But

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Speaker 1: I didn't deserve that. What precipitated the fourteen and twelve

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Speaker 1: spews that you've had in the last Hey everyone, I

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Speaker 1: hope you're enjoying your dinner too. I hope it's not

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Speaker 1: a casserole. What what? What have you got? What's wrong

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Speaker 1: with you?

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Speaker 2: I've got no idea, but it come on hard and.

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Speaker 1: Fast, haks hard Like I drove.

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Speaker 2: I got tired after our last podcast, and then at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, I drove down to take

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Speaker 2: Luna for a quick run in the park before bed.

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Speaker 2: We pulled up in front of the park. Luna started

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Speaker 2: carrying on in the back like she does, and I

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Speaker 1: And I thought I wasn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I thought I wasn't going to make it back inside

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Speaker 2: the hot I thought it was going to pass out.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it's not that. It's not the menopause, is it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the menopause causes projectile.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well I'm no expert, so all right, then

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Speaker 1: Donald's he's Don's pretty much a doctor. He'll tell us

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Speaker 1: what's your proscript? What's your diagnosis?

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Speaker 3: Doc?

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Speaker 1: She's fucked clinically speaking, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You're screwed. But the good is this, this will pass

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Speaker 3: a lot of passing going on, but now you'll come good,

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Speaker 3: like just a shipload of water, flush about whatever. It

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Speaker 2: Fruits, though frosty fruits.

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Speaker 3: The mate, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: Isn't it funny when you crook how you just crave

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Speaker 1: sugary carby ship because you know Lincoln.

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Speaker 3: But we picked that up when we're young, don't we.

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Speaker 3: Mom and Dad gives us that like the flat lemonade

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Speaker 3: and so that sounds default.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody's sitting at home feeling crooked, going, Jess, I

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Speaker 1: love a canna tuna, Give me toast with honey, give

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Speaker 1: me all the white bread toasted with honey, and or

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Speaker 1: jam Don, welcome to the show. How are you, son?

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Speaker 3: Mate? I am excellent better than cookie. That's a fact.

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Speaker 3: And I don't say that lightly because it's a pretty

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Speaker 3: do wish you well, might hug you. You come good soon, Tiff.

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Speaker 3: But has I'm flying, mate? I was. I've had a

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Speaker 3: loving life. That's exactly how I set it up to

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Speaker 3: live this life. I remember body years ago, when I

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Speaker 3: Don travels great, but then you've got to get back

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a large night the day that

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Speaker 3: grows back. But seriously, so I've created a life and

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Speaker 1: I suggest that if you do wake up one day

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Speaker 3: I was absolutely spent. I fell asleep my leg on.

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Speaker 3: it fits perfect, and it's got a job to do.

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Speaker 3: A seconds, mate, I've got my record is nine seconds,

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Speaker 3: So not that I'm competitive, but I do like to

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Speaker 3: But it's like I roll a silicon sleeve on, it's

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Speaker 3: And you know, I've got legs that used to have

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Speaker 3: when you're wearing that type of technology as well. So

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Speaker 3: the evolutional legs, Like I just got my procesor saying

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Speaker 3: and it's a waterproof leg. You can wear thongs with

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Speaker 3: on now because I literally can't wear thongs. But hearing

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Speaker 3: That this stuff exists in my lifetime? You know, And

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Speaker 1: I feel, without having done any research on this, which

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Speaker 1: was probably a steady inclimb, but from say nineteen ninety

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Speaker 3: Yeah, bang on my big like crypto, but without the

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Speaker 3: has planted out. There's no question about that. I got

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Speaker 3: But now that you see the blades, like the Cheetah

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Speaker 3: you know, when you see that sort of stuff, it's

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Speaker 3: the same like Formula one. You know, they put the

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Speaker 3: like me just go what else can we do with this? Well,

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Speaker 3: how can we push this? I had a running blade,

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Speaker 3: that whip to throw the disc. And I thought, if

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Speaker 3: then I'm going to get across really quick. But imagine

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Speaker 3: So I put a universal swivel through the blade so

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Speaker 3: the evolution, you know. It comes with a desire for

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Speaker 1: I would imagine that a spatial awareness or rotational awareness

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Speaker 3: Well that's why they've got a cage here, mate, for lunatics.

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Speaker 3: But fortunately, fortunately nobody died in the making of those

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Michael Milton is at above me. Michael

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Speaker 1: without you running in to pick them up. Because how

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Speaker 1: do kids get strong or resilient or capable if they

432
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Speaker 1: never have to do anything hard or get uncomfortable.

433
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Speaker 3: That's right, It's a learned behavior, isn't it. So whatever

434
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 3: we're learning is our level of resilience or lack of

435
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 3: because we learn Okay, we fall over or just have

436
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 3: to put my hand up or make enough noise and

437
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 3: Mum's going to pick me up. Yeah, I can make

438
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 3: all the noise in the world. Mum's so exactly something.

439
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 3: And that's why I say I record. Mum got the

440
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 3: raw end because her sister and sisters would say to her, oh,

441
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 3: you bitch, pick him up. He's only got one leg

442
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 3: and one would be like hearing this from her loved

443
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 3: ones and she's got nah. He's got to learn to

444
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 3: do it without it, without me. And you just think,

445
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 3: what a courageous woman to stand up to the people

446
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 3: that fucking pointing you out and calling you out for

447
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 3: not being there for your kids, because none of us

448
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 3: want that. But her vision and view of how to

449
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 3: raise me was, in my opinion, hands down better than

450
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 3: that I could possibly have asked for.

451
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, hey mate. For those of our listeners who

452
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Speaker 1: don't know anything about your sporting background, can you just

453
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Speaker 1: give us like a little bit of a two minutes,

454
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Speaker 1: ten minutes, as much or as little as you want.

455
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: Where did the sporting career start, what did it look like?

456
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Speaker 1: And can you give us a little bit of this

457
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: is your life, of your sporting career just and then

458
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Speaker 1: I might weave a few questions.

459
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Speaker 3: In yeah I made I was pretty fortunate. I was

460
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 3: born without the below half my leg, and then that

461
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 3: meant that the same opportunities weren't going to exist for

462
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 3: me as they were for my brother. What I didn't

463
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 3: realize is that I was being raised in the same

464
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 3: vein as my brother, so disabled, handicapped, special like the

465
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 3: Paralympic Games. Although back when I was born they weren't

466
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 3: a big thing, but they certainly weren't even They weren't

467
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 3: a welcome thing in our house. My parents weren't looking

468
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 3: for that. They said, Mayne, you'll play footy. Just go

469
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,959
Speaker 3: down and play footy with your brother. And that's what

470
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 3: I did. So I grew up in an able bodied world,

471
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 3: but always being a bit pissed off that I couldn't

472
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 3: keep up like I was always and then people would

473
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 3: make excuses for me, Oh, it's okay, you've got one leg.

474
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 3: I go I fucking no one got one leg. But

475
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 3: I still want to win that race, you know. So

476
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 3: there's that little bit of mongol that sort of creeps

477
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 3: in because you just you've got to fight a little

478
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 3: bit harder and then a couple of my mates at

479
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 3: high school said to me, mate, why don't you go

480
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 3: to the Paralympics. And I'd never heard of them. And

481
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 3: when they told me that the Paralympics stand for parallel

482
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 3: to the Olympics, so I started getting a bit excited

483
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 3: because I've heard stories about the village and I thought

484
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 3: this could be all right. And then they and they

485
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 3: said that the Olympics overseas, and so if that's the case,

486
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 3: so of the Paralympics, And I just thought, how could

487
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 3: would that be to go overseas? Mate? So I'm from Tokamo.

488
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 3: Tokmo had twelve hundred and a half people, mate, I

489
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 3: was the half like I am, thinking this is gonna

490
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 3: be awesome. So I went home and I said to

491
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Speaker 3: my man mom and Dad, I shit, you're not. I

492
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,719
Speaker 3: still remember it like it was yesterday. I walked in.

493
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 3: I put my bag, my school bag on the ground.

494
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 3: Mum's peeling spuds at the sink. Dad's standing behind her,

495
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 3: groping her, holding her up, and I said, Mom, Dad,

496
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to go to the Paralympics. But Dad said,

497
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 3: you're going to go the What and what was really

498
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 3: interesting is Mum stopped peeling spuds and Dad stopped groping mump,

499
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 3: and they both looked at me and said, you're going

500
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 3: to go to the war. I said to the Paralympics

501
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 3: and Dad said what are they? And I said, oh,

502
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 3: they're games for disabled people. Shit, you're not My Dad

503
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 3: said you're not bloody disabled, and I thought there goes

504
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Speaker 3: my true overseas. So I had to convince mom and

505
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: Dad that I was disabled, and sadly didn't take that long,

506
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 3: but I got to go to my first ever. We

507
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: got the Yellow Pages out, we looked up Amputees and

508
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 3: MPT Association. I was living TOKENMLL to New South Wales.

509
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 3: Found the New South Wales Emput Championship. Said fuck, that's

510
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 3: in Sydney. Let's see if we can go to the

511
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Speaker 3: Victoria once because I've come down here to get my

512
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 3: legs made in Melbourne. It's only three hours and they said, nah,

513
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 3: you're a New South Wales athlete. We don't want anything

514
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 3: to do with you. You belong up there. So we

515
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 3: rang Robin Howe, who was a president of the New

516
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 3: South Wales Empt Championships, went up to Sydney, competed in

517
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Speaker 3: my first ever New South Wales Empte Championships. And that

518
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 3: was after I shoult you not. It was a whoa,

519
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 3: what the fuck is this? But I went up there.

520
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: My parents ran a public swimming pool. I can swim

521
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 3: reasonably well. I went up there to swim in five

522
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 3: events and I thought it was bloody win everything. I thought,

523
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 3: I'm not really disabled. I'm going to swim against disabled people.

524
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Speaker 3: I've got this. And I looked around. Here's all these

525
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Speaker 3: people missing and missing legs. And I've never seen me

526
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 3: shit before, never like. The most I've seen is maybe

527
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 3: one or two other amputees at the leg joint, not

528
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 3: a whole bloody group of them. And I thought, wow, bloody,

529
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Speaker 3: a bunch of freaks. I thought, I've got you lot.

530
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 3: But yeah, And then I went in the five events

531
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Speaker 3: and I won two, but in the other three I

532
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 3: got my ass kicked. At that point, that was the

533
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 3: turning point for me, my entire life, to be honest,

534
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 3: not just for me, but for mom and dad, because

535
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 3: their perception of what they had been told about disabled

536
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 3: and disability and handicap and people that weren't like everybody

537
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 3: else was flipped on its head. All of a sudden.

538
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 3: This shit was hard and if I was going to

539
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 3: make it. That sort of seemed to be music to

540
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 3: my dad's ears. He liked the fact that it wasn't

541
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 3: going to be walking the park, you know, like if

542
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 3: I was going to make it, I'd have to earn it.

543
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 3: And so after that I really got stuck into swimming.

544
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Speaker 3: And I tried out for at the national championships for

545
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 3: the nineteen ninety two Barcelona Paralympic Games, and I missed

546
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Speaker 3: out by one spot. And at the time of sixteen,

547
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 3: and I was fucking filthy. I thought, like, I've broken

548
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 3: national records. I was ringing up Mum and Dad. I

549
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 3: was staying there at Parkville and I was ringing them

550
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 3: up every day. Oh, national record fifty four hundred and three.

551
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: And things were going pretty good. And at the end

552
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: of the games, I announced the teams, and when I

553
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: missed out, I just thought, fuck you, and Dad come

554
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 3: down pick me up. Everybody else is going out to

555
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 3: celebrate that night, and we're driving home and I said, Dad,

556
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: staff quit, I've had enough, mate. He said, what do

557
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 3: you mean you quit? I said, I've retired. I'm done.

558
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 3: He said, you're fucking sixteen. You're a bit young to retire,

559
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 3: how about you have another crack. And so next year

560
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 3: I went to the Stage Champs and I did swimming

561
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 3: and athletics. I come back from there with ten gold medals.

562
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 3: I thought, this is I'm back. I love this. And

563
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 3: I had the very very good fortune to speak to

564
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 3: one of the head coaches, Chris Nunn, and he said, mate,

565
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 3: if you had a real opportunity to represent the country,

566
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 3: what would you have to do? Either swimming or athletics,

567
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 3: Because you're gonna have to get serious because the great

568
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: athletes that make these teams they don't do facking everything.

569
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: You might be good at everything, but at that level

570
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: you won't make it. And I said, I'd rather do athletics.

571
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 3: He said why, I said, because the guys who are

572
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: athletics are having more fun. I said, And at home

573
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 3: in the middle of winter, our swimming pool's cold and

574
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 3: green and slimy. At least if I'm doing athletics, I

575
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 3: can play footy and still get fit. So that was

576
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 3: the start of my athletic career. I spent the next

577
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 3: well a couple of years training mass off. I was

578
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 3: fortunate to make the Atlanta Paralympic Games, and then I

579
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 3: ended up with four World Championships and three Parampic Games,

580
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: a couple of World Cups and the Commonwealth Games. And

581
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 3: I spent the best part of twenty years representing the country,

582
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: you know, just playing sport. And it's never been wasted

583
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 3: on me that I played sport. You know, I didn't

584
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: save lives. I've got to travel the world. Yeah, I

585
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 3: had to raise money and stuff along the way. But

586
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: I've literally filled four passports. You know, I'm on my

587
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: fifth through just having them filled up with stamps because

588
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 3: I'm in another country to run or to push a

589
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 3: shot pull or throw a discu It's like, how good

590
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: is that? Like? Just very fortunate. And the event that

591
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 3: I chose was the pentathlon And often hear people say, oh,

592
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: the event chooses you and that bang on. I was

593
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: never great at any one thing, but I was reasonably

594
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: good at five and so which stacks up when you

595
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,239
Speaker 3: you know, at the end of the day, when you

596
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: go over one metal, you need to be able to

597
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 3: put a really shit performance behind you really quickly and reset.

598
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 3: And fortunately for me, maybe it's kid growing up, I

599
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: had a very strong mental approach to things. I was

600
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 3: able to compartmentalize things really quickly and not take the

601
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 3: bad chi into the next event, but to reset and

602
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: go again. And that served me really well. Most of

603
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: the time. Sydney wasn't so well I had. I finished

604
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: fourth in Atlanta and the Pentathlon. I'd finish fourth at

605
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 3: the World Champs in ninety eight. My goal was to

606
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 3: win a medal in my home country at the Sydney Games.

607
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 3: In two thousand, I thought, this is it. I went

608
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,719
Speaker 3: out at the Sydney Games. I was in after the

609
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 3: first two events. After the first three events, I was

610
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 3: sitting in the silver medal position. I was sitting decond

611
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 3: only behind the current world champion. And then I went

612
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 3: into the discus and as you line up, if you've

613
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: paid much attention to athletics, when you're lining up and

614
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 3: you're about to go into your event, the cameraman goes

615
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 3: along the line and the announcer says, oh, we've got

616
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: Thomas Bourgeois from America, and Urst colleague from Switzerland, and

617
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: I've got Don Elgen. And instead of the camera being

618
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 3: on me, the cameraman had found my wife and my

619
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 3: two year old daughter and the rest of the Don

620
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 3: Elgon cheers squad in the crowd and Thomas was beside

621
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 3: me goes, haven't got the big screen and looked up

622
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: on the big screen and here's my little girl with

623
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 3: her go Dad shirt on, and I just lost my shit.

624
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 3: It was I'm getting choked now. I was so emotional.

625
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 3: It was that this is I don't even need to

626
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 3: throw the discuss. This is the best moment of my life.

627
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 3: Like I'm at the pinnacle of sport, and I've got

628
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: the people that give a shit about me right there.

629
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: So I had three throws of discuss that day with tears.

630
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: I was crying the entire way and so fucking get

631
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 3: it together and I couldn't. I emotionally wasn't ready for

632
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 3: the impact. And then I dropped from second into third,

633
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 3: and it's like, fuck, I'm gonna blame Earth for that

634
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: for the rest of my life, but anyway, I better

635
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: get that shit sorted. So I went into the last event,

636
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 3: which was the four hundred meters, and I knew I

637
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 3: had to beat the American by six seconds, and if

638
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,719
Speaker 3: I could do that, then I'd get my first ever

639
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: parentl PIC Metal, which would be a bronze. I'd have

640
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: to do some pretty crazy shit in the four hundred

641
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 3: and Honestly, I had it the four hundred, so it

642
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 3: wasn't likely I was going to do anything super amazing

643
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 3: in that event, and fortunately I did. I'd beat the

644
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: American and I ended up with a bronze medal, you

645
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 3: know in my home country.

646
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: Week Wow.

647
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: So when you see people in the bronze his body

648
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 3: jumping around, they're really excited, probably sometimes more than silver

649
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 3: and maybe even go old. That's sometimes why I mate

650
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 3: is because what it means to get there.

651
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I love that, mate, That's so good. And

652
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: that story about your little girl you did? I read

653
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: you've got four kids? How old are they? Yeah?

654
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: So my little girl's now twenty six year old nurse

655
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: who works in the Royal Melbourne and it's you know,

656
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: she did her work experience at the place that makes

657
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 3: my legs. So when you think about that connection and

658
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: what they're picking up by looking at me and my

659
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 3: wife and the people around them, you know, if you're

660
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 3: a care then that's what you do. So and then

661
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: I've got a twenty three year old twenty two, I'll

662
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 3: get the fuck they have birthdays. I'm good for a

663
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 3: full year saying this is how old they are. Then

664
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 3: they go and have a birthday and it starts my

665
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 3: little routine. How dare they George? And she's living her

666
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 3: best life, mate. She's an ambassador for an energy drink,

667
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 3: drives around body love and matt and works in the

668
00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 3: corporate boxes, which just her people skills, her ability be

669
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 3: able to talk to people and just go, mate, that

670
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: is probably the greatest asset today for anybody that can

671
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 3: actually speak with their mouth. And I get that not

672
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 3: everybody is verbal and they can't all do that, but

673
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 3: the nation and the globe is moving towards speaking with

674
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: your thumbs and the ability this will never get old,

675
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 3: the ability to sit down and have a chat. And

676
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 3: she has that, which is bloddy awesome. I've got my

677
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: third born, my little midget. She's she is now just

678
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 3: eighteen to eighteen last week and finish year twelve and

679
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 3: so she's not sure what she's up to yet, which

680
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: is but exciting part time job. And then the boy,

681
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: the Golden Child as I like to refer to him

682
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: as he's he literally just finishes grade six this year

683
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 3: and he's off to high school next year. So yeah,

684
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 3: things that things are good in the olden camp.

685
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: Well, mate, it must be a bloody. It must be

686
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: a circus at your joint periodically. I guess they're not

687
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: all at home now though not now.

688
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: But during COVID, I had Nutto and her fiance Bill

689
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 3: living in our house. So we had Evan in our

690
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: house during COVID. And we made the call after about

691
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: the fucking fifteenth lockdown that what is what's going to

692
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 3: be our reflection of COVID? How are we going to

693
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 3: you know, when we look back, what's it going to mean?

694
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 3: And I thought, you know what, my kids are going

695
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 3: to remember that we had good fun. So Nada, oh,

696
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 3: my firstborn, it was her job to create the game.

697
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 3: So we'd have Elgin Olympics in our house most days,

698
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 3: and it was sometimes it was just body throwing m

699
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 3: and ms into a bowl or sliding a coin or

700
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 3: you know. So she'd come up with games each each

701
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 3: day for us, which was awesome. I come up with

702
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: a game and they reckon that I probably should be

703
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: off the games. Mine was to get their little you know,

704
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: the little mobile vacuums that just do their own thing

705
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 3: around the house. Well, I got everyone to blow up

706
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 3: a balloon and put it between their feet, and then

707
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 3: I strapped the knife to the vacuum, and just whoever's

708
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: balloon got popped last? They were the winner, But the

709
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 3: kids reckon. I was probably trying to recruit them into

710
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: being emput so I didn't get much of a gig

711
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 3: to pick games after that.

712
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 1: No, it's not the death. No, I think it's great

713
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: that Dad's strapped a knife to the fucking vacuum. What

714
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: could go wrong?

715
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 3: But you could move. I mean we're just told don't move,

716
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 3: but you can. I mean you've got to use a

717
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: bit of con sense too. If it's coming at you,

718
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 3: get out of the way.

719
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 1: So I want to let's talk a little bit about mindset.

720
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: Let's talk about you at start. So I'm stumbling towards

721
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: the finish line and my doctorate in psychology, and so

722
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm always talking just like you were talking. I guess

723
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: a lot about mindset and thinking and motivation, inspiration, fucking

724
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: self management, like how do I manage? How do I

725
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: get the most out of me? Are you like in

726
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: terms of you like the guy that we're seeing now,

727
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: the high energy optimistic realist? Is that your default setting

728
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: or is that something that you've had to hone and

729
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: develop and build? Yeah?

730
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 3: Mate, absolutely, In the ladder. It's my default now. And

731
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 3: my dad would say to me when we're young, mate,

732
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 3: if you tell someone they're a dickhead long enough, they'll

733
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 3: believe it. I thought, fuck it, why would I want

734
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: to tell myself I'm a dickhead? Like, why don't I

735
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 3: tell myself life is awesome? So I would tell myself

736
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 3: every time, all the time, whenever good, bad or otherwise,

737
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: especially when things were shit, Our life's awesome. I fucking

738
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 3: find another way. Life is awesome. Don't forget life is awesome.

739
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: And so I programmed myself to think like that. And

740
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 3: then what I'd started doing is I started getting feedback

741
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 3: from society. People go, oh, what do you want? You know,

742
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 3: what are you having? I want with your having a

743
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 3: fucking life? How good is this? Life's awesome? And it

744
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 3: wasn't until I think outs a fault setting because of

745
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 3: what we look up and see is the news, and

746
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: it's negative, and there's more that we create space, and

747
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 3: we enable pessimism to come in and hold way too

748
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 3: much ground in our life. And I go, it's there.

749
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,479
Speaker 3: The leg's not going back, but there's one good one.

750
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: If we chop that one off, you know what, I'll

751
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: probably get a fucking wheelchair mine even an electric one

752
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 3: suit that up. So there's always a way to look

753
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 3: at things in a different line, and I just choose that.

754
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 3: I've seen people that that have have succumb and agreed

755
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: that life's hard and it's negative. It's like, fuck, how

756
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 3: do you carry that weight around with you all day?

757
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 3: The burden that is on your shoulders looking to find

758
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: something that's wrong in the world? Like when when you

759
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 3: choose that? Nah? You know, like you can choose the

760
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 3: default setting that suits you. And for me, I'm a

761
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 3: helper mate. I ride a motorbike. I see someone broke down.

762
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: I was lucky believers. Do you need a hand? People?

763
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: It freaks some people out there. You're the RSV. You've

764
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: got to quickly go Nah, made on just a country

765
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 3: right and home. I'm already wet. You're broke down? Do

766
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 3: you need my phone? Like? And you know what it does?

767
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: It fucking makes me feel good. It makes me feel

768
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 3: like I've actually contributed today. I might not have made

769
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 3: any money, I might not have done but a boddy,

770
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 3: I've helped somebody. And if somebody helps one of my

771
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: people one day when I can't be there for them,

772
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: bloody awesome, massive believer Craig of what goes around comes around,

773
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 3: and I see it. I just figured, well, if what

774
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: goes around is me putting good shit out, then what

775
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 3: should come around is good shit coming my way. And

776
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 3: somebody said to me, I think it was just today.

777
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: This is how you feeling lucky? I said, bloody, an't

778
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 3: I'm lucky. You know, I am very lucky. I'm very

779
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 3: very fortunate. Good stuff happens to me. And I'm not

780
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: even willing to open the can and say, nah, I

781
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 3: never win anything, but that if you never win anything,

782
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 3: what have you just told the universe You're not going

783
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 3: to win? Not me. You know what I like the most,

784
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 3: and this is how I use it in my sporting

785
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: career is the medals at the param The Parlemer Games

786
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 3: do not come engraved. Quite simply is because they don't

787
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 3: know who's going to win them. The blueprint for the

788
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: future is not written. So I figure, fuck it, let's

789
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 3: ride ourselves into it. I've got no more ride than

790
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 3: any other person lining up on the games, apart from

791
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 3: the fact that I'm picturing myself having a crack. I've

792
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 3: done the training I needed to do. I am going

793
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: to do whatever I can to put myself in the

794
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 3: best possible position. Every now and then I find myself going, Okay,

795
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 3: I'm going down the wrong track reload, And that's why

796
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 3: you need that really strong network. But my default setting

797
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 3: now is of my choosing, and that is that life's

798
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: awesome and I want to stay there, and when I'm

799
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: not there, I try and get back there as soon

800
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 3: as again.

801
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very much kind of of the hangout with

802
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: people who drag you up mindset, and also be the

803
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: person that drags others up. You know, it's it's hanging

804
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: out with energy vampires is a hard gig. Ah, come on, bro,

805
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: you know you've still got a care And I'm like, dude,

806
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: this is like emotional quicks And every time I talk

807
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: to you, and I'm not talking about someone with mental

808
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: health issues necessarily, just someone with a fucking toxic attitude,

809
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, God, take some Now, this new sport

810
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: that we're not talking about, No, this new sport that

811
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: you're training for, grasshopper? Are we thinking that at you're

812
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: what are you seventy four? And now at your no,

813
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: how old are you?

814
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: Actually I'm right now today and this shit changes in

815
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 3: two weeks. I'm forty eight today, right, so get your

816
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 3: head on this. Yeah, this is my plan. I've got

817
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: a real good mate of mind. And she was at

818
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 3: the same three games I compared Ton't in Atlanta, ninety six,

819
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 3: Sydney in Athens, and we were just I went over

820
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 3: to Paris this year. I scored a little gig hosting

821
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 3: a commercial. I did a one of my other mates,

822
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 3: and there's about a little core group. It was about

823
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 3: five or six of us that have been really good

824
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: mates throughout our career, and a couple of them were

825
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: commentating at the games and she was sitting at Honger. Well,

826
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 3: you fuck is involved and doing shit and I'm not

827
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 3: doing anything. She goes, I reckon, I need to do something.

828
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 3: So I sat out with her at the end and

829
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: I said what do you want to do? And she goes,

830
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 3: I don't know, And I thought, well, fucking this is

831
00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: not a really good start. We need to have some

832
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 3: sort of concept. And then we both sort of hit

833
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 3: the point with it. What sort of rare group of

834
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: humans would be able to compete at two home games?

835
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 3: And so you know, you can do one or two

836
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 3: or three paralym bigs and it's people have done four, five, six,

837
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 3: and seven. That's a rare group. But how how small

838
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: must the pool be of athletes that have competed in

839
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: two home games? And we've got Brisbane coming up in

840
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 3: twenty thirty two, and we both competing in Sydney, and

841
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: it's like, fuck, you know what, that's only eight years away.

842
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 3: But that, like that is nothing in the scheme of

843
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 3: thing I reckon. So and then we looked at it

844
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 3: and go, okay, let's be real, because you know, we

845
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: do a lot of speaking and we help people with

846
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 3: goal setting and different ways to do it. I have

847
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 3: a very simple goal setting philosophy. I just put it

848
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 3: like a ladder, and the very first thing I do

849
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 3: is go, where are we right now? What are all

850
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 3: the facts that we're dealing with? You know, oldie injuredy

851
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 3: fucking driven? What's the story? What's the real? And then

852
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 3: you know, what do you want to aim for me?

853
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 3: I would just go, no, let's say for the top.

854
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 3: Let's actually have a crack at the very best thing,

855
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 3: the biggest, because why not, and then just work back

856
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 3: and put the steps into play. So if I'm to

857
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: go to the Paralympic Games in in eight years time.

858
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 3: And then that means that I need to be at

859
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 3: apparentier games in four years. To get there, I need

860
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 3: to fill probably a couple of world champs in between that.

861
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 3: Before that, I need to be at a nationals. I

862
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 3: need to be at a state. Okay, I'm going to

863
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 3: need a local club. And right there's the fucking map.

864
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 3: Right now, we've worked backwards, we've sorted out. Now let's

865
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 3: take one step and just focus on that step. We'll

866
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 3: nail that one and then we either come back and

867
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 3: reload or we take the next step whatever we're at.

868
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: And so really simple philosophy. But mine now, when I

869
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 3: sat down and had to look at the now, mine

870
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 3: now excluded me being super physical to go and paddle

871
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 3: a boat or you know, to run a marathon. Couldn't

872
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 3: be fucked my body. It's done what it needed to

873
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: get me to this point. But there's still plenty in

874
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 3: the tank for me to go. Oh, I can still

875
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 3: get strong enough. Maybe I could get strong enough to

876
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: hold a gun. Maybe I could get strong enough to

877
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 3: do a sport that requires a different skill set, like

878
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 3: a mental game, because I'm probably stronger there than I

879
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 3: am physically in my in my legs, my arm. Now.

880
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 3: So anyway, that's where we're looking in that space, my friend,

881
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: and it's fucking exciting.

882
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can see what I wrote,

883
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: helps hang on, I'll just tell you down the bottom

884
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: of my page. I wrote, Paris shooter, you know that

885
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: old dude, And because I was trying to guess the

886
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: sport and I'm thinking, well, it's not going to be

887
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: fucking Greco Roman wrestling or high jump because he's going

888
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: to be fifty six ish at the that's.

889
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 3: My all over again. Not enough?

890
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, well he got twenty million for just lasting,

891
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: so it ain't the worst gig I would Yeah, dude,

892
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: I would have just jogged around the ring for four

893
00:43:58,640 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: rounds now.

894
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 3: I would have worn him out in that time.

895
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, tiffle to beat him though, no doubt.

896
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, like that, that is that's interesting, have you?

897
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: And I thought I thought maybe shooting and I was

898
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: thinking of that. Where was he from? Do you remember

899
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: where he was from?

900
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 3: That?

901
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: Was he actually French? Or was he from Italian? And

902
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: he's shot in jeans and a T shirt and he's

903
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: hand in his pocket. Yeah, he didn't use the normal

904
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: bloody super duper sights or and then he.

905
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 3: Did all the other Olympians just doing everybody you know,

906
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 3: doing the poses and ship. It was pretty cool, like

907
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 3: that's a you know when you see that sort of stuff,

908
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 3: you just go like it's one out of the bag.

909
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 3: You know, I mustn't be our stuff might probably be

910
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: air rifle shooting, so it's not you know, the clay target,

911
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 3: not the cool shit, but still you know it's I

912
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 3: think for me, it's about saying is there a possibility

913
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 3: that something can be done? And I went to I

914
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 3: took the same approach into the and fourteen i'd been

915
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 3: the World Champs manager team manager. In twenty eleven, I

916
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 3: went to London as a team manager and then I

917
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 3: come back from London and the head coach and he goes, oh, mate,

918
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 3: I was thinking about you the other day. Fuck that's

919
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 3: dangerous and he goes, one of your events from your

920
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 3: pentathon is on at the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow in

921
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen. I said, we'll get stuff mate, I'm eating pies.

922
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: I'm done, and because my headspace was finished, and he said,

923
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 3: oh I was the disc it said, I made this

924
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 3: foolish mistaker saying what was the qualifying and he told

925
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 3: me what the qualifying distance was. I thought I could

926
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 3: fucking do that, and that's what happens in my head.

927
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 3: It's like yes first. And so then I rang booth

928
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 3: my wife and I said, mate, what do you reckon?

929
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 3: The common Games are in Glasgow? Do you reckon? Do

930
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 3: you reckon? I have a crack? And I was sort

931
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 3: of half expecting her to go, mate, if I can

932
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 3: be in the four World Champs three pounder, because just

933
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 3: let it go, mate, it's all good, you've done it.

934
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: And she said yeah, why not? And I thought, fucking

935
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 3: game on. So I literally come out of retirement and

936
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 3: I chase competitions around the country. I walked into a

937
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 3: PTE and I said who was pt for? My wife?

938
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: I said, do you want to coach a Commonwealth Games athlete?

939
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: And he goes, yeah, who? I said me, he guess

940
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 3: you haven't been a Commonalth Game? I said not yeah.

941
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 3: And then I went to my processus, who is a

942
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 3: discus coach as well. I said, do you want to

943
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 3: coach comonth Games? I think? Guess who? I said, mecues

944
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: haven't been I said not yeah, and I shit you not?

945
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 3: I qualified by the skin and white teeth by two centimeters.

946
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 3: I made the qualifying and went over to Glasgow and

947
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 3: I thought, okay, how good is this mate? So and

948
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 3: I used I used the process that I thought most

949
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 3: people had access to, which was not to go and

950
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 3: apply for an Institute of Sports scholarship, which I was fortunate,

951
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 3: I'd had one for twelve years throughout my career, take one.

952
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 3: And I thought, because so many people go, oh, you're

953
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 3: just so lucky. You've got everything. You've got fucking access

954
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 3: to masulas and physios and diet and it's true, I do.

955
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 3: But can the average punt I get off their ass

956
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 3: and go and do this? Is it possible? And so

957
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 3: that was what I sort of wanted to take into

958
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 3: more so so I could say to my kids and say, hey, guys,

959
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: fucking just don't die wondering, have a crack if you

960
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 3: crash a boon, stiff shit. You know, we're not saving lives,

961
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 3: We're playing sport. And so I wanted to see what

962
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 3: was possible. And then that is why I booked in

963
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 3: this physio the bill and clinic today and I went

964
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 3: down and seen it and said, I've just got to

965
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: get a classification and she's going okay, we'll put you

966
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 3: through all these tests. And she's going, can you move this?

967
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 3: Do this? And she goes she's you're strong, thank you,

968
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 3: and I just said, just fucking need a classification, and

969
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 3: she goes, I squeeze my hand and saying I'm used

970
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 3: to putting shot poots mate, like, and I'm thinking, you

971
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 3: really want me to squeeze it out? Thought I'll fucking

972
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 3: break your hand. I felt like, take it easy, and

973
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 3: she goes, no, no, I'll tell you when to stop if

974
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 3: I need to. And so anyway, all the right bits

975
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: are moving. We're good to go. There's no excuse not

976
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 3: to have a craft, mate, So watch this space, Halves.

977
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: If I think you better come out of retirement, you

978
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: could make you first. You could make your first Olympic

979
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: team as a boxer, I mean, as a legit.

980
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 3: Why not.

981
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: We just need to fix that nerve impingement you've got

982
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: going on and stop throwing up for a bit.

983
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 2: That might help.

984
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: I made. I can talk to you for days, but

985
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: we don't have the time and people have probably got

986
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: shit to do. But I so love talking to you.

987
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Know you're a natural at this.

988
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 3: You know that.

989
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: But you're such good talent. As we say in media,

990
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: like you're such good talent. It's such a fun dude,

991
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: You're so real and authentic. And as I said to

992
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: you before we started rolling, we don't do any interview.

993
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: We just have a chat, and you definitely are great

994
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: at that. So one, I appreciate you and thank you.

995
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: But two, how do people connect with you and find

996
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: you and get you to come to their company for

997
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: an obscene amount of money and inspire the masses?

998
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 3: Well, my dad is bloody awesome. Firstly, thanks for having me, mate,

999
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: I really I know you've got a full book. You've

1000
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 3: got a shitload of really talented people. You've got access

1001
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 3: to incredible people, and I'm really grateful for a chance,

1002
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 3: just like I was when I had the opportunity to

1003
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 3: have a chat with TIFFI, I'm really grateful to like you,

1004
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 3: be surrounded by good people. It's an awesome space to

1005
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 3: be in. My old man said to me when I

1006
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 3: was young, My dam matter what you do, just keep

1007
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 3: it simple. So my website is my name, all the

1008
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 3: ws don elgin dot com dot au and all my

1009
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 3: contact details are on there. JT takes care of business

1010
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 3: for me. That is. Seriously, the easiest way to get

1011
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 3: me is straight on my websit.

1012
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: You're again all right, mate, well say goodbye fare but

1013
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: for the moment Superstar start shooting motherfucker and you know,

1014
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: get yourself, get yourself in the zone sun because I'll be.

1015
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 3: Cheering your own fucker. I can see that new T

1016
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 3: shirt I got Legli and Donnie and he started shooting motherfucker.

1017
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: That's right, that's going to be probably on you motto

1018
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: and you can I'll take ten percent royalties. I bet

1019
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: if you got that on a T shirt, start shooting

1020
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: motherfucker with your name just underneath, it's sell like hotcakes.

1021
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 3: We're not going to die on wondering. Keep an eye

1022
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 3: on eBay next week, mate, we'll have it on the website.

1023
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: All right, mate, we'll say goodbye affair. But for now,

1024
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: thanks buddy, right to mate, take care bye