WEBVTT - More Than Just Footy | Simon Madden - 910 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:07.480 She said, it's now never I got fighting in my blood. 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:12.479 I'm tiff This is Roll with the Punches and we're 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:17.119 turning life's hardest hits into wins. Nobody wants to go 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:21.120 to court, and don't. My friends are test Art Family Lawyers. 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:25.160 Know that they offer all forms of alternative dispute resolution. 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:29.240 Their team of Melbourne family lawyers have extensive experience in 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:32.960 all areas of family law to facto and same sex couples, 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:37.280 custody and children, family violence and intervention orders, property settlements 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:41.680 and financial agreements. Test Art is in your corner, so 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:45.440 reach out to Mark and the team at www dot 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:52.680 test Artfamilylawyers dot com dot au. So I'm and Madden. 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:57.480 Welcome to Roll with the Punches, Tiffany. 0:00:57.520 --> 0:00:59.560 Great to be here. Thanks for the opportunity to talk 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:04.520 to you and your followers and your zoomers whoever however 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:08.759 they connect to her. Good to have the opportunities to talk. 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:11.399 We've had a couple of chats, and I love what 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:13.240 you do and I love the way you think. So 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:16.080 I'm quite up to talking about all things about Rolling 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:16.760 with the Punches. 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.759 I've only got one concern and I've been thinking about 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:21.959 a bit and I'm like, oh this, I just I 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.320 just hope this doesn't happen. I just don't know if 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:26.520 I'm going to be able to get you to really 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:28.440 loosen up and talk very much. 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.520 Yes, I'm a little well, I'm a little bit shyy, 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:33.280 just just a fraction shot. 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:43.760 We connected through through networking business networking, and you're one 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:46.360 of those people that are just super You weren't at 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.320 the first one that I attended, but you are of 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:52.880 those people that feel really familiar and appealing and likable 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.200 from the get going. By the third time, I reckon 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:57.639 it was second or third time, I can't even remember 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:00.480 that I'd listen to you have a band. I was like, 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:02.800 I just I got to sit down with this bloke. 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.280 I've got to have a coffee, I've got to talk, 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.320 I've got to shoot the breeze one on one. And 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.120 we did that, and I could have sat there for 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:09.799 a week while. 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.000 I think I think we had about forty five minutes 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:13.000 in the door and I think it was an hour 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:15.680 and a half. So I was quite happy, quite happy 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.200 to the chat to you too. And I think now 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:19.919 you might not have noticed I'm a little bit older 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:21.920 than you. You might not have noticed that. But what 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:25.360 I love is what I love is I don't want 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:26.800 to go to the old people's home. I don't to 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.120 mix with hundreds of old people. I love dealing with 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:32.040 young people like yourself and or younger, whichever way you 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.239 want to take it, and get your view on the 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.280 present world, because I think it keeps me young. So 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:39.960 great to have the opportunity. 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.640 Again, You've made a great point. I have this theory. 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.400 I already had this theory for Engom, my first boss 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.520 when I first got a job at seventeen. She was 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:52.800 sixty four, and I used to look at her and say, 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.760 because she hangs out with all us young people at work, 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.600 us younger girls, she was so young at heart, right, 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.960 it kept her young. So I have sprouted that little 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:08.160 little observation ever since. But last year, sometime I took 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.320 stock of some of my closest friends and mentors and 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:13.480 people that I spend a lot of time with, and 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:18.839 little did I realize that quite a lot of them 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:24.800 were almost sixty or beyond, so quite significantly older than me. 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:28.760 Yet they feel like a pack of kids. Look I 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:31.280 feel like a kid. I definitely think they are like 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.079 a kid. And then I thought to myself. That doesn't 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:36.800 really ring true with that theory. I've been sprouting my 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:38.560 whole life that you've got to hang out with younger 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:39.680 people to keep you young. 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.880 But when you're young, you know you're already are young, right, 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:46.440 so you're younger, so you're right there. But yeah, when 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:49.240 you get to the you know, tony a number, But 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.840 I'm sixty seven, so excuse me, I'm going to swear 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.080 I can be I can officially be a grumpy of 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.960 bastard there, right, that's why I could. You're alad to 0:03:58.000 --> 0:03:59.280 get there, not that I'd get it, but you're had 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.120 to get the bench and allowed I sort of retire, 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:03.880 allowed it. And I keep saying no, no, no, life 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.000 too short even if and this you know this one 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.600 of my philosophies. Life is short and then you die. 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.400 Now that's it. That's there, And you can layer anything 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.600 else on that, right, you can put your beliefs and 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:15.480 your world and all that, but that's a fact. You know, 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:17.360 life is short and then you die. And if you 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:19.680 live to be one hundred in the history of the world, 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:23.000 that's just a blink. So why why do you spend 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:24.920 your time being negative? Why do you spend your time 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:28.560 being aggressive? Why do you spend your time, you know, 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:33.039 being old or getting older growing? So I'm really big 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:34.919 on you know, while you've got your time on earth, 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.560 do the best you can. And I think you know 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:41.719 you're content of rolling with the punches are really resonated 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.600 with me because it's the fact that if you've never 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.360 made a mistake, you really haven't been doing much. Have 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:50.520 you never have been trying things? So is it a 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:53.440 mistake that you dwell and oh my god? Or is 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.520 it somebody I learned from that? What do I learn 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:57.240 from that? What would I do different next time? What 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:59.600 am I going to do different next time? So rolling 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:02.440 with the is a really really important thing of your 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.200 day to life. And you know, I live I live 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:09.159 on sort of. I suppose confidence, conviction and courage is 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:10.960 one of the things I talk to people about having 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.320 confidence in something, having conviction of about it, and have 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.680 the confidence to have a go with it. And I 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:19.360 really think that, you know, you really have to attack life. 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.000 I suppose that's the best way to do it, you know. 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.359 And I really get a lot of I get a 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:25.520 lot of joy out of building people up and helping 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.599 building people up. And I just I don't like to 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:30.840 deal with people who build themselves up by cutting other 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.599 people down, and a lot of that in the modern world. 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:35.760 And you know, I've got to I've got to be 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.520 I've got to be really important on Instagram. I've got 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:40.720 to be really important the world. And if I get 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:42.560 there on my own volition, great, but if I get 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:44.800 there by cutting other people a down or to go, look, really, 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.159 I don't really want to know you, So you know, 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:49.120 for your life with good people, and now I know 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:52.000 sometimes you've got to deal with hardships, and people have hardships, 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.680 and another whole thing about the mental health issues and 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.480 a lot of young people, what a lot of people 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:58.680 have got and you have to help those people. But 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.039 part of that is building them up, not cutting them down, 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.840 you know, help them getting through the problems that they have. 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:06.760 And I just know that I've dealt with some people 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.039 at the time being very thankful that I've had that 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:11.680 philosophy of my life that I've been trying to build 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:13.599 them up and help help them that way. And I think, 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.560 you know, your concept of rolling with the punches is 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:20.040 a really great idea because you know, I think I 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.080 remember a lady said to me once now I work 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:25.960 with it with Sue Barrett. She's does a lot in 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:27.919 a lot in sales, and she said once to me, 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:31.600 you know sometimes courage. Sometimes courage is just getting going 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.279 to bed and having your sleep and getting up the 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:38.600 next day. You know, you sort of order or went 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:41.000 to dish today. What I do about that? Let's just 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:42.600 go have a good rest and come up the next 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.640 day and have the courage to keep going. So, as 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.000 you notice, I've taken over the conversation. Sorry it's differently. 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:49.720 Oh blood, I love it. But you know what, last 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:53.200 night I did a podcast with an academic on courage 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:57.280 specifically because I was going down a thought rabbit hole myself. 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:58.800 So I love that you brought that up because I 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:02.080 was like, what I love going on thought tangents, and 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.279 I was going in my mind before you went on 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.480 your little tangent, I thought, what I want to ask 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:11.000 you what your own personal I guess thought tangents are 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:12.680 at the mom Do you have anywhere you're like, you 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:17.480 know what this particular thing or perspective or process that 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.520 has got my attention right now? And do you chase 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:21.840 things down a rabbit hole like that? 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:28.720 Usually go down a rabbit hole there's lots of times, 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:30.760 so you know, I'll find like I'll find just for example, 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.880 I'll find a song I like on YouTube right now, 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:35.320 and I've got there's a couple of guitars, the and 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:36.520 I used to be in a band and all this. 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:40.320 So I find a song I like, and then you 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.520 go down the rabbit hole. How many people have done 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.720 that song? What's a different version of that song? Oh, 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:46.600 they've got another version. Oh there's a new artists. And 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:48.280 all of a sudden, you just keep going down and 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.760 it's great because you find new music that way. You know. 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.320 There's a whole lot of things I've been looking at recently, 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.960 and I suppose with the I suppose with the election 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:02.720 on in Victoria. In Victoria that I'm looking at, you know, 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:05.360 what's the you know, have we lost the truth? There's 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:08.800 so many people, so many people trying to pitch this 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:12.200 and politicians are very good. And Ross Stevenson is a 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.520 fellow I know who's on three W and I try 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.480 to listen to him as much as I can, and 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.440 he's very smart and he's very funny man. But he 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:20.280 made a point and he said, you know, and there 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:21.680 was a few weeks ago and he made the point. 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.600 I thought, fair enough, here are these politicians on all sides. 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:28.280 I'm not barracking for anybody here. What they do is 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:30.520 they you know, taxes for three years and then spend 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:32.320 the tax trying to get a three you know, trying 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.720 to get re elected. And I'm really big on now, 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:38.240 you know, tell the truth because if you tell the truth, 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:41.559 you don't have to have a memory tell lies in 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:43.280 who do I tell over there? And that's a little 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:45.640 bit and I've got to and show that concept of 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:48.000 you know, let's just get down to the tree. And 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:51.040 you know, with AI now, with Instagram, with X with 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.160 all those social media I think they're great and they're 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:55.480 but they're just tools like this. This is this is 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:58.160 a great tool. You know, we could do all the 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:00.920 organization and going meetings we are and setting up in 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:03.040 a studio and all this. We can do this over 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.040 the computer, but it's only a tool. Doing this isn't 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.200 going to make a conversation any better. It might make 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:10.280 it a bit easier to do rather than run around, 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.440 but it's only a tool to do. So. You know, 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:14.439 a lot of people are using tools, but they're using 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:17.480 them to not tell the truth or push their agenda 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.480 or as I say, cut people down when they should 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.199 be building people up. So I think that's what's what's 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.520 in my truth. You know, the three there's two, there's 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.480 three sides of the truth. Your side of the truth, 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:30.600 my side of the truth, and something between that is. 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.640 So you know, I just try and be I suppose 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.200 honest with the people I deal with and you and 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:39.040 you can be you can be you can be hard. 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:40.439 You can be good critic, but you can be a 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:43.920 harsh critic. You know. Excuse me, We're going to be 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:45.960 careful that on Trigerty. But I can say to something, Gez, 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:49.360 you're fat. I could say, gee, what's your exercise Raim? 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.400 Like these days? Do you exercise? Do you have a diet? 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:53.640 And one is in one is sort of being I'm 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.600 telling you what to do rather than I'm sort of 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:58.720 asking about how and get some information out of you 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.400 to get you to think a little bit differently. And 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:04.640 I think that's yeah, So I'm trying to work on 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.120 the truth whatever whatever that is is one of my 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:08.960 little things forgot at the moment. 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:13.920 That's a that's a big topic, isn't it, Because it's 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:16.960 like what is the truth? It shifts, doesn't. It depends 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:17.880 on where you stand. 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.319 But it's interesting to look like in the media, and 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:23.199 just for example, in the media and social media too. 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.760 Now used to deal with experts, So and you have 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.079 an expert and you deal with facts. Now a lot 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:32.520 of times you deal with opinion. Yes I think, I believe, 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:34.200 and you're allowed to say anything you like after that, 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.480 and so the facts start to get facts starting to 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:39.640 get pushed out of the way. I mean, you know, look, 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:41.600 you're I know you're a fit person, you really work 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:43.760 on I'm looking after yourself. But there's a whole lot 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:47.800 of so called experts on the internet, on Facebook, on LinkedIn, 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.680 on excerpts. I say, all the social media, on WhatsApp, 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:55.040 who's spout ideas about health and fitness and they don't 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.360 have a backing for it. You know, they are pushing 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:01.199 a brand of milk or a brand of whatever other 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.560 product they want to make money out of. Find But 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.680 let's let's get back to what's what's real. And I've 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:10.280 had I had to do a talk recently about for 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.000 a group of people, and I brought in the concept 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:16.320 of a sporting group. And I'm talking about the concept 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:20.000 or three parts of your health. Right that don't cost 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.199 you anything, so you don't have to go and by product, 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.320 well none sort of sort of costs you but not really. 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:28.640 So just move before you even get to exercise. Movement 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:32.920 cut movement out of our life, right, so we don't 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:34.800 We don't stand up and cook, We sit down, watch 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:37.319 chelling and get uber delivered. We don't even walk down 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.600 a car to go and get take away. Take away comes. 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.719 It's not even takeaway anymore. It's delivery, isn't it. It's 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:50.200 not even here, it's delivered here, so as I think 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:54.160 it's American terms. So people are cutting movement out of 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.800 their life right now. If I if I go into town, 0:11:56.800 --> 0:12:00.439 and when I say Melbourne my hometown, and there's always escalat, 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.360 I go to the right and walk up. It's fair 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.000 shaped and I walk up where people stand on the 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:08.120 escalator and just stand. And now I say, well, you 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:10.000 still can walk. And now I know older people might 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:11.880 not be on the balance exception, but if you can 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:13.840 walk once you walk up to them. So movement is 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.280 really important even before we get the exercise. The other 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.599 one is water. The whole parts of different parts of 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.880 the body of made up of different parts of water. 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:23.719 Depending on what part you know your hearts, you own 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.880 your liver a difference, So get water into There's research 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:28.520 to show that if you ever saw back, of which 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:31.719 is the old sportsman here, being dehydrated can actually make 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.600 your back hurt. So drink water. And the other one 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:38.480 we don't two with is deep breathing exercises actually probly 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:42.000 you know, when somebody says, you know, just take your breath, 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.760 settle down, you can actually practice out. I mean most 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.320 of us shallow breathe up the top of our loans 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:50.560 where you actually really have to use you there are 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:54.000 you drinking your water? Good? Excuse me, I'll have a 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:59.000 drink of my water while I'm hurt. That's just what 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:03.360 it's good. It's good and practicing deep breathing. And we 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:04.880 could do it. I won't it need but you have 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:06.600 a hand on your chest and you'll ow it and 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.079 you ab them. You don't breathe your shoulders. You're breathing 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.199 with seven hole for seven, breathe out in three and 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.360 as whole out three out, two and a half dozen times, 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.560 and people actually feel calm and doing it. Now those 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.000 three you know, Okay, you've got to pay the water bill. Somewhere, 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:23.720 but realistically, those three things are very cheap. And then 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.719 everybody's telling you to do all these take all these products. Now, 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.559 medicine is very important, you know, we do. Some people 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:32.040 need you know, kneed pills and need direction, and I 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.199 see doctor regulars and get nother make sure I see 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.320 you know, I keep up on the help. But we 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.640 don't orderly automatically have to take something. When you've got 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:41.360 a headache, you know, you drink water, or you go 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:43.440 outside and breathe fresh air can actually change it. You 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.640 don't have to take a couple of paincts. Now. They 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.840 might need to get there eventually, but sometimes, you know, 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.160 I said, we don't move, We don't. We don't practice 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.800 deep breathing, we don't breathe properly, and our first choice 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:55.640 of getting better is a pill or a tonic or 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.640 something where I you know, I'm really big on making 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:00.400 sure that you're in charge of your life, you in 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:04.400 charge your body. You know, I believe I'd rather believe 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.560 an expert in something rather than somebody says they're an 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.959 expert and doesn't have the pridge or somebody's got a 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.800 viewpoint so back, you know, what's the truth about yourself, 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:14.680 what's the truth about your life, what's the truth about 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:18.559 your health and fitness? You know, I just think that's 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:22.120 it's really important, and not to over complicate it. There's 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.080 only three things you can do. You can do them 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.920 every day and you'll feel better for it. Of course, 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:28.400 the other one, you know, then you're go into diet 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:32.720 and sleep and friendships and all that and connection and 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.000 family and all that. But there's three things you can 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:36.120 do that don't cost you any money. 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.240 One of my pet hates is the use of the 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.840 doctor title from two standpoints. 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:44.080 One. 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:48.600 Now, I'll preface this by saying, the two people that 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:53.120 are in charge of my body and wellness are actually chiropractice. 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.480 But I won't call them chiropractice, but that's what they're 0:14:55.480 --> 0:15:00.560 trained in, which is annoying. But chiropractice is this happened 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.680 on socials all the time. Chiropractice that a doctor someone, 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:09.160 but then their whole profile is spouting bullshit about something completely. 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:12.880 There's one doctor, chiropractic doctor bloke that does it, and 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.160 he's talking about ADHD and I'm like, I don't know, 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.320 you put that doctor, whoever you are, and it's not 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:20.760 relevant to the ship, So you're pretending that you're a 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:24.440 doctor of fucking some sort of psychology or psychiatry when not. 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:28.280 Or people that have done a PhD in something and 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:32.480 then they're again they're specializing in something else. It's like, well, 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:37.800 that's not fucking relevant, is it. It's I have. 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:41.720 That's why I don't. I love your honesty, I love 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:46.640 your passion. But it's true, and you know you can 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.360 be you can know more and more, you can know 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:51.360 more and more, you know more and more about something, 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.040 you know everything about nothing, or you can realize and 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.480 know the's lots and lots and lots of little things 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:59.400 about nothing at all. Either, So you stay within your line. 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.520 I supposing another one too, you know, stay with it. 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.680 I don't I go, you know, I don't go and 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:09.040 see what would I say a foot doctor if I've 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:14.000 got a bad back, Like so those people are very important. 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:17.760 Everybody's important. Yeah, I think that's thing about the to 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:19.720 know what's the truth, go back to what's the truth. 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.120 And looking after yourself. Always say to people, you know, 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.600 just part of looking after yourself, and it's really important 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:27.320 in the modern world. I think if you're on a 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:30.520 plane and they're doing when you get on a plane 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.160 and they're doing the safety instructions. What do I say 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:35.239 when they talk about the oxygen masks. 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:37.680 On yourself first. 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.080 Before we can help the person next to you. Put yours. 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:43.840 Think in a plane, you know, to an oxygen mask, 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:45.240 So you don't put yours on your trying to help 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:47.240 somebody in new faith, you're not going to help them. 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:50.320 Great analogy, put yours on first, look after you, and 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.480 then you can help the person ext to it. So 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:55.200 a lot of times part of that health is mothers. 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:57.840 Mothers that can be terrible at it, as in very 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.000 good at it. In the terrible, they look after everybody else, 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:04.120 accept themselves. Parents can do that. We know we've got 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.240 grandkids now. So I look at new parents looking strongt 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:08.119 I go look, and they look, and they look, and 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.560 I go, get sleep. I said, you know in some 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:15.240 countries they use sleep deprivation as a torture. And you'll 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.639 take and you'll get the stage. You'll get to the 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:19.680 kids say take this little ship and give me idea 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:21.960 of sleep. And after that, I said, you give my 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.720 beautiful litt kid back. You've got to look after yourself 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:28.000 so I can look after others. And that's why you know, 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:31.040 even simply know I just take deep breast relaxed before 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.240 you go anywhere, except you're getting up on stagey. I'm 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:35.520 sure you do presentations before you get the stake. A 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:37.760 couple of deep breaths just to relax yourself. 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.919 A little bit of shadow boxing made actually a shadow, 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:42.280 a little bit of shadow boxing. 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:46.040 No breath here might be the shadow. Get hurt. 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:55.280 That's funny, Like I've I know you're background, and I 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.679 remember when we when I for those who don't, I 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:59.200 played AFL for you a long long time. 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.120 You know, you'd tackle my punches to the ground. I'd 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:02.720 have no open. 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.720 We used to have a boxing coach and they we 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:07.840 used to do three rounds of three minutes for the gloves. 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.080 You know. But that was and then thought, sometimes you 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:11.879 find that you had to do the right and let 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.760 we do three three minutes three minute round three three 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.680 minute rounds with the gloves. And he's really good at you. 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:19.439 You'd be dugging at the end. I think, hang on, 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:20.879 you go to other bed. We're going to ring and 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:22.640 somebody punching back while I'm doing this. 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.000 Oh mate, You've got no idea. You know what dropped 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:27.560 down to the gym with me one day and we'll 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:30.000 just do We'll just do some light rounds just so 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:32.280 I experienced the level up of that. 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:36.080 I'd have trouble. I have trouble holding them up. Literally, 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:36.520 I just. 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:41.959 I just jumped in and did some sparring. I'm going 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.640 to say this for my listeners that are aware of this, 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:46.840 for their benefit. I did a couple of rounds of 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:49.159 sparring for it with a bloke he's been on the 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:54.200 show before, Ben Pettingill, and he's an absolute legend blind. 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.679 He has two percent vision, ninety eight percent blind. We 0:18:57.760 --> 0:18:59.480 did a few rounds of sparring because he was doing 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:04.440 this event up in Queensland, podcast Royal, a big boxing 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:08.679 event for podcasts, and there's going to be seven blokes 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.320 in the ring, the rest of them blindfolded and him 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:14.080 and they having this blind boxing match. He broke someone's 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:19.200 ribs boom. I was like that a boy, that's my boy. 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:24.919 Well it's the leg isn't it interesting? So just on 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.760 that you can say I'm blind and I can't do anything, yeah, 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:29.399 or I'm blind and what am I going to do? 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:33.239 You know? It's that's that's really important to me, is 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:35.520 it's you know the other thing, it's not what happens 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:38.560 to you, it's had your handle what happens to you. Yeah, 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:43.000 in the in the sport world in Melbourne, Neil Denaher 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:47.080 got him not Neuron desserts right, and I played with him. 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:50.439 A great man. He's become Australian in the year like 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:52.399 it's only about three years too late. He sent it, 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:55.560 but I always remember he could have, you know, he 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:57.680 got m D. And I remember a statement he said, 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:00.560 why would I expect anybody else to do something if 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:03.520 I don't do something? So the negative viewpoint all I've 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:05.359 got and I'm going to sit here and anybody's going 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:07.440 to help me. He got up, and they've raised me 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:09.520 and and means and dells because he wouldn't and he 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:11.480 calls it the beast. He's fighting it, you know, it's 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:14.000 a real fight against it. And I just thought that's 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:16.480 an amazing attitude that everybody else could have said, O 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.000 Paul made poor mate, and he said and he won't. 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:21.679 He probably won't see the outcome of all them. But 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:23.920 there's a whole lot of research, a lot of trials 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:28.439 happening that wouldn't have happened. They're all meeting going in 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:32.240 the right direction. He's been alive seven and a half 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:34.840 years with your own disease, and most people go within 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:37.800 two and a half of the most Even his whole 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:42.320 attitude about how he attacks it is I just think fabulous, 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:44.520 and I've done I've done a little bit of help 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.840 with some fundraising for it, but in small ways. But 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:51.840 I just yes, it's not what happens to you. How 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.159 do you handle that? And you're talking about your your 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:55.959 blind box? Who al on blind but cheese. I can 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:57.439 steal box and I can break them. 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:01.800 And it's it's that perspective, like the first thing I 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:04.479 saw were all of the things and it feels, it 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:07.199 felt weird, and it was weirdly received sometimes when I 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.919 was telling people, hey, he's got some real when it 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:13.960 comes to boxing and teaching it technically as deeply as 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:17.040 I do, I go, he's got some real advantages that 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:21.640 shone through straight away. He is not distracted by the visuals. 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.800 His chin doesn't rise. He landed body shots. You don't 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:27.040 get many novices landing body shots because they're hard to 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:28.640 land because you get in there and there are heads 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:30.359 in the way and it's hard to get to the body. 0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:32.760 He just knows because he doesn't have to see all that. 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:36.680 He's only got the feeling of what's going on. And 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:39.640 there is an advantage, though I would not be choosing 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:42.280 two percent vision just to be just to get a 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:48.600 couple of a couple of good body shots. But it's interesting, 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:51.560 isn't it. And it's the legacy that like, it's the 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:54.320 legacy that Neil is leaving for all the people. And 0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:57.399 he'll never know, he'll never know, but that's changing the world. 0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:01.520 Same with Benny. People watched on People Watch just a 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:04.760 thirty second reel that he posted and have talked to 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:06.480 me about it. I don't even know him, and they 0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:11.160 are just going, I'm so inspired. Yeah, that's amazing. 0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:13.239 That's the thing, and that's what I suppose. That's one 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:15.800 of the things too, is I grew up playing a 0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:19.520 team sport and I love team sport, and boxing to 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:21.439 a certain extent, is an individual sport, but you do 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:23.960 have a team around you. That's starting. The tennis player 0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:26.960 who played individual tennis talks always talked about the team 0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:29.959 around them. So I've become team involvements because you know, 0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:33.080 you get you can inspire other people. Other people inspire you, 0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:36.360 and speaking you know, speaking to parents, I say to them, 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:40.800 get you get your child involved in team sport. But 0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:43.440 they're not sporting. I go, all right, well, there's the choir, 0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:47.080 there's the band, there's the theater group, there's the dance group. 0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:50.720 Something where we're in this together. And I think, with 0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:54.320 a lot of you know, I see And maybe I'm 0:22:54.320 --> 0:22:57.320 getting too deepig meaningfull as I get older, but I see, 0:22:57.440 --> 0:22:59.560 you know, young young man. Now a big problem in 0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:01.680 Victoria to about the crime rate and young men running 0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:04.520 around with sjetties and stealing cards. There's a fact that 0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:08.360 whole research shows that young men will take risks right 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:12.080 when the test roone kicks in, or even before that, 0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:13.880 if they've got people around them with the test rone 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.320 kicking in, they will take risks. So why don't you 0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:20.200 put your kids into situations where they have to take 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:25.040 a risk and when they it's the big thing. You know. 0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:27.560 One of my philosophies is if you don't understand the struggle, 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:31.000 you'll never understand the success. You don't have to go 0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:33.360 through the struggle yourself. It helps. But if you see 0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:35.439 people struggling and you see how they succeed, and you 0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:38.000 see what happens and so you get them. One of 0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:40.159 the great things about playing sport is you lose and 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:43.280 you get over yourself. Something out boxing, you lose and 0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:45.040 you have to go back next week. You get on 0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:47.239 the theater in the stage with Thindy. If you get 0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:49.399 your lines, you're playing a band. You mess up the 0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:51.080 lines and guess what, you wake up the next morning 0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:54.639 and keep going. So it's about you know, we're going 0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:57.280 to take risks. It's about directing people into the right 0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:02.040 risk and risks that's not too dangerous but actually helps 0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:05.400 you build yourself up. Just tell me about the first 0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:06.760 time you got to the ring when someone on the 0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:08.399 other side just got to punch back. How did you 0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:10.479 feel about that? I mean, the first time you do it. 0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:12.200 You do a lot of training, but there's what about 0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:13.640 the risk you take when that happens. 0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:17.600 It's beyond words. And the thing about boxing that I 0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:20.359 remember from those first fights because I did it in 0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:23.240 an environment where it was white collar boxing, so we 0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:26.040 were all most of us were having our first fights. 0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:28.480 Some people might have had one of them before before, 0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:31.639 so we're all in it together in the unknown. And 0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:35.880 so you see this version of everybody on the bags training. 0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:38.880 You see that version of they are, how hard they train, 0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:41.560 what they know, how quick they pick up techniques, And 0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:45.040 then you see a version in the first few sparring sessions, 0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:48.480 and that person can be a different person, and then 0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:51.560 you see a third person on the night in the ring. 0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:54.120 Because when you put adrenaline in the system and people 0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:57.879 put them in front of people, they will either rise 0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:01.360 to it and become different, or they will capitulate, or 0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:04.640 they will just sidestep and just perform differently. They might 0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:07.159 be the same level of what you've seen, but that 0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:11.160 you just go. I remember girls to train with and 0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:15.919 she was a real brawler in training and really like 0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:18.280 just all over you. And then you'd get her on 0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:20.600 fight day and she was just clean and popping these 0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:23.320 shots and movement. It was like, I wish it'd spa 0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:24.040 me like that. 0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:30.199 You're right, but that's thing about you know, like you know, 0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:32.679 you do lots, you know, do lots of training, and 0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:36.200 when you're football are lots of training. It's really the 0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:38.400 first the first practice match, you've done all this, you've 0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:42.040 done match simulation, You get in a game, then somebody 0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:43.520 bumps in and hit the ground. You jump up, you 0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:44.960 got to run again. You've got to chase, you got 0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:47.000 to kick it. All of a sudden, you're breathing so heavily. 0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:49.720 Go oh yeah, this is real. For all the other 0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:52.199 stuff is practicing, and so I watching. You know, you 0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:54.159 can be practicing, but then you get in there and 0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:55.720 you've got to be in the moment. You've got to 0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:58.840 be now now, not not not laughing now. All that 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.399 helps with your confidence and your technique and you know, 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:03.879 et cetera. But it's got to be done now, moment 0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:07.320 by a second by second. So there is a big difference. 0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:10.800 And I remember playing football with the bloke he said 0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:12.680 he couldn't play football in front of the crowd. He 0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:15.800 played in the second thessident and then we got on 0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:17.600 there and the US they used to have the seconds 0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:20.159 before the first, right, so there was not much crowd 0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:22.080 and the crowd to build up over the game. And 0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:24.920 they'd finished just before the senior sided, so there'd be 0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:26.719 a big crowd on the last quarter. He said, I'm 0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:28.640 all right at the start, I can't play. I can't 0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:30.359 play in front of people. I thought, well, you're not 0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:32.720 going to have a career. Ay. Just it was that, 0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.760 because you know, I mean, I remember we're talking the 0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:40.679 other Day who I got an interview because it's fifty fifty, 0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:44.000 so quickly fifty since I got the first end Jack 0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:47.679 Day game, I was seven a fifty years and I 0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:50.840 remember seventy you know, seventy seven thousand, seven hundred and 0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.480 seventy people. I was seven, aeen. I kicked six guys. 0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:55.920 There were seventy seven thousand, severyone and seventy people. I said, 0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:58.520 if I kicked one more goal and seven more people 0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:00.920 turned up, all the sevens would have lined up beautiful. 0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:04.399 And I remember after really loving plant, you know, because 0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:06.600 if you have the success around of a big crowd, 0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:09.439 that sort of nice motivation to do it again. I 0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:12.800 remember months later on running out at Waverley and a 0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:14.639 lot of young people wouldn't even know that existed. Now 0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:17.840 that was a big, big, big ground, and they said 0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:19.840 I was probably going to be about sixty thousand, right, 0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.560 And I remember running out looking around disappointing and oh, 0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:24.560 there's only about forty thousand of there. Because it rained, 0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:29.080 you know, getting getting used to being successful, and I 0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:31.560 don't don't have also in front of one hundred thousand people, 0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:33.840 given the right handball to the right person in the 0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:35.560 right place, and the right time, in the right call, 0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:39.879 the wrong jumper and where you can go and you 0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:44.920 want the MCD to open up and swallow. And you said, 0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:46.600 all right, well, I've got to go to the next 0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:49.119 center Abountle to do something. And that's about you know, 0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:51.679 and that's that we know that word resilience people and 0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:54.760 a lot of people bandy it around. To be resilient, 0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:57.800 you've got to fail and get over it, you know, 0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:01.040 Michael Michael Jordan talks about you know, ailing thousands of time, 0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.240 that's why he was so good, or all these people. 0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:05.920 If you if you never make a mistake, I said, 0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:07.880 if you never make a mistake, you're not trying hard enough. 0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:10.760 What you learn from a mistake. And if you know 0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:12.880 one's a mistake too, is a pattern three shouldn't happen. 0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:15.760 If you just keep repeating it, then you haven't learnt anything. 0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:19.080 So I really think that that word resilience keeps coming 0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:22.200 up and people want to talk about raising resilient kids. 0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:24.720 You never give him a chance to fail, so they 0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:27.240 don't build up, you know, they don't build up this resision. 0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:30.320 It's okay to fail and overcome it. And a big word, 0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:32.560 it's a small word. It's A big word in my 0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:36.359 vocability is yet just why see right, Because if you 0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:40.320 say I can't do it, if it a will, you 0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:43.840 say I can't do it yet, there's still a lot 0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:45.600 of time to get up to the I can do it. 0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:47.960 But as soon as you say that statement I can't 0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:49.840 do it, it stops. It stops you writing your place. 0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:53.440 So that yet is understanding you're not there yet, But 0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:56.440 that yet means yeah, but I can move on and 0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:58.760 get him improving it better. And that's in the workplace, 0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:02.520 that's in relationships, that's in sport, in the ring, outside 0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:04.600 of the ring, whatever. I might not be able to 0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:07.880 do it yet, but give me the opportunity to work 0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.920 forward and work harder. And I've seen some of the 0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:13.440 failure understand it. I've had failing yourself. I said, if 0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:16.719 you don't understand the struggle, you don't understand success. You 0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:20.240 took about any world champion in any any boxing match, 0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:23.360 or any boxing career over all the years of boxing 0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:26.440 has been around. You talked about any of them understanding 0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:29.680 the struggle. They'll all understand the struggle the training they 0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:33.000 do that you know, maybe I broken hand at some stage, 0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:35.600 or maybe you know I saw ribs or what. I'll 0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:38.720 understand the struggle, and that helps with understanding the success. 0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.680 And that can be done inside the workplace, outside the workplace, 0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:45.000 inside the ring, outside, inside the arena, outside the arena. 0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:48.440 Remember when I was earlier, early on in my boxing, 0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:51.239 I was having a little winge to my trainer. I 0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:54.560 was like, it's not fair, Like I want to be 0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:57.840 active and I want to do this sport and I 0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:00.360 get the ship knees and all the injury there is, 0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:02.960 all the eff and time, every single fight there was 0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:06.600 some ship going on, a crook neck, a bugget shoulder. 0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:08.800 I tore my lame room. I had ship knees all 0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:10.960 the time. I was always out and I had a 0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:15.200 wings and he goes, mate, that's everyone, and that's because 0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:18.840 you're doing it. One escapes that. But he did used 0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:21.680 to call me the race horse because I was always 0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:22.960 injured and in the paddic. 0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:28.840 It's your thorough bread, your thoroughbred. You're right on the edge, right. 0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:32.480 That's it. But it got to the point where he said, mate, 0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:34.560 some of us are bread for racing and some of 0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:37.040 us are bread to be brood meres. And I was like, 0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:42.840 you go, oh, you look out mate, Yeah, you're playing with. 0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:45.480 Fire, and I've said, you know, and that's how a 0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:49.000 lot of people understand. Like with football, I've seen people 0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:52.479 have the taller and everybody knows I can play. Their 0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:55.239 body says they can't, and that's the real. But I've 0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:58.280 all seen people walk away from the sport with the 0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:01.600 head held high cards they've given it their best shot. 0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:02.320 Yeah. 0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:04.280 Now if they haven't given it their best shot, that's different. 0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:07.240 But I've seen people have really really good short careers 0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:09.720 and you can see the talent and their body says, no, 0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:11.560 I can't do it. Three knee injuries or you know, 0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:14.440 da da da da da du too many concussions or whatever. 0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:17.360 But at least they've given it their best shot. And 0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:19.080 there's I think you should be really proud of that. 0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:22.560 But it's different when somebody says and whatever is. People 0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:25.280 have said to me, I could have whatever it was, 0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:26.560 I could have been a box. I could have been 0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:29.760 a football if only I had of and then I 0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.200 stopped listening. That's different. You know, I could have been 0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:34.640 a football, except I've only if I had two legs. Okay, 0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:37.480 I could understand that, but there's still you know or 0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:40.560 you know or I've got a. You know, I dislocated 0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:43.080 the shoulder, and you know, as a kid that keeps dislocating. 0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:44.720 And I've had full up price. I can understand that. 0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.920 But there's other big people say I could have if 0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:50.880 only I had of which means they didn't. And it's 0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:53.520 not about it's not about the physicality. It's about I 0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:55.560 didn't train hard enough. I didn't put in hard enough. 0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:58.280 I didn't work hard enough, you know, et cetera, et cetera, 0:31:58.320 --> 0:31:58.920 et cetera. 0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:04.720 Is it It's interesting I in my lady years, like 0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:07.719 I see that now I see those parts, but I 0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:11.400 go but I have a different perspective. It's like an appreciation. 0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:13.880 And it also it brings you back down to a 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.520 level where it's like, oh cood, But it doesn't like 0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:18.920 if it doesn't mean anything, it doesn't matter. It doesn't 0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:22.600 mean like I know, based on the times I've taken 0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:25.560 up running, if I put time into that, I've got 0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:28.440 some talent. I've got something there physically that if I 0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:31.200 put time in, I could be good. I was good 0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:32.840 as when I was young, but I was a smoker 0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:35.320 at fourteen, so I didn't really give a toss but 0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:40.800 I had, Yeah, I gave it up but didn't do 0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:42.959 anything with it. And my older years when I've had 0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:44.680 a crack and like I'll go out and I'll do 0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.720 some awesome times and it's like, yeah, but cool, but 0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:51.160 it just doesn't mean anything to me at the moment. 0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:53.880 Maybe one day I'll take it up and it'll have meaning, 0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:56.320 but it doesn't mean I'm shit for not doing it. 0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:58.440 But it doesn't mean I'm amazing for doing it. 0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:01.120 No cry. And this is one of the things I'm 0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:03.719 very big on. Like, you know, people people say, oh, 0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:05.920 it's a great football. Now, let's not know that's you 0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:07.600 know that people have said that, No say to you 0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:09.600 you say, you know, always strange. I'm very good at 0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:11.920 taking compliments. So somebody says, jeez, you're good at something 0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:14.840 you don't. Oh no, I'm not. Yes, thank you very much. 0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:18.920 It's appreciation, you see that, But so do you great football. 0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.400 That doesn't make me better than anybody else or worse 0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:24.280 than anybody else. What it does make me good football. 0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:27.080 I haven't done that for a long time, you know 0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:30.960 that aspect of And you know, I really talk in 0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:34.040 saying in the workplace, but in life I talk about 0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.680 care and especially in the workplace, and key you know, 0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:39.560 if if somebody rubs you on the shoulder and goes, oh, 0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:43.640 you'll be right now. Care But care is c ire, consideration, affirmation, respect, 0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:47.760 and empathy. So consideration, affirmation, respecting, empathy is real care 0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:50.600 within the workplace. And if you've got a coach, if 0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:53.280 you've got a trainer, if you've got somebody helping you, 0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:56.200 you've got a doctor, you've got whoever helps you in 0:33:56.240 --> 0:34:00.360 your sports saite or they've got real care about you, 0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:02.360 You'll see it, you'll feel it, you'll understand it, and 0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:05.200 I'll help you do better. So showing care for other 0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:06.880 people properly is really really important. 0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:12.520 Yeah, what I'm interested in how long did you play food? 0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:14.239 And how are were you when you're retired? 0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:18.880 So I was, It was a long time ago. I 0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.040 vaguely remember. Now. I was sixteen when I played six 0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:24.160 day when I played in the first game with Escedence, 0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:27.000 So I was in year eleven. So I started. I 0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:29.239 played for the school on school and now listen, we 0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:31.480 can't be done. Now play for the school on Wednesday 0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:34.920 and the same burnod as a school I went. So 0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:38.200 I played for so Bernards on Wednesday and on Saturday, 0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.640 which is amazing thing. And then I played for nine 0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:48.360 one years and I was thirty four thirty four, and 0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:51.360 that's when the body got the breakdowns. You think you 0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:53.160 can play forever. You can surely think you can be, 0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:55.000 you know, world everyway, chieving for the rest of your life, 0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:57.600 but somewhere along and you can't. And you have to 0:34:57.680 --> 0:34:59.840 understand that. And so again, if you just give it 0:34:59.840 --> 0:35:01.319 your best shot, then you walk around and go, well, 0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:03.439 I go the best shot. So nine one years round 0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:06.960 and seventy five games in a lot of accoages is 0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:10.279 great Premiership space and fairest a norm Smifth medal, which 0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:13.279 is for the best plan of Grand Final, you know, 0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:17.080 and in Melbourne, you know, like you've got to be 0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:21.359 You've got to be realistic about it. Australia is point 0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:24.080 three percent of the world's population on a good count, right, 0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:27.799 three point three percent, So the world have no idea 0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:32.480 that I played football, right, that's the idea of the world, right, 0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:35.520 So you just got to make sure. But you know, 0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:38.279 if you get the opportunity, you take it. That's the best. 0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:39.880 You know. If you give it your best shot and 0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:41.319 it doesn't work, at least you hold your head up 0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:43.000 because you said, you know, you know you've got to 0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:45.640 your best shot. But it was you know, all those things, 0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:47.480 the injuries. You know, I was lucky, I didn't have 0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:51.000 a lot of injuries, but the terminology just you know, 0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:53.279 ball hit down, the bone, stuck out there, the type 0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.080 of thing you know, hit a bloke, snove, got knocked out, 0:35:56.120 --> 0:36:00.440 spent a night in Perth hospital. Those things are things 0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:02.120 that get in the winter that just started to go 0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:05.520 a little bit stop. So hopefully that makes sense. 0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:10.319 Yeah, yeah, what when you left, when you when you 0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:13.120 were played your game and you walked out the door, 0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:17.400 what where did you sit with your identity? And was 0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.080 that a struggle where you like, who am I if 0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:21.280 I'm not the football? 0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:23.719 That's a really good point. I think you can. I 0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:25.719 think I did a bit, not not too much, but 0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:27.600 I think you look back and you going toe. You 0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:32.719 remember you're thirty four when you retire, normally retire you 0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:36.400 talk about sixty five, seventy seven, you know, you retire 0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:39.280 from work and your young fit. I think the fittest 0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:40.920 I was when I was thirty five because I was 0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:44.560 still training and kept myself. That didn't hit anybody, hit 0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:48.880 anybody else, So nothing hurts but info, you know, I 0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:51.400 tot a handsring off the bone, and so you know, 0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:53.480 you don't in some ways you don't have to make 0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:57.120 the decision yourself. Your body makes a decision. But then 0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:59.360 you go, well, you know, you're introduced as you know, 0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:02.360 Simon the Maden the for footballer, and then then you 0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:04.399 sign An Edward. So what is your you know, who 0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:06.759 is your identity? And I think a lot of I've 0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:08.080 seen a lot of people struggle with that, and I 0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:10.000 didn't think so at the time, but I look back, go, yeah, 0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:12.400 there was a time there when well, who am I 0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:14.920 and what am I going to do? Luckily I had 0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.000 other things. I was a teacher back then. I've run 0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:18.520 my own business for twenty years and I was a 0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:20.680 teacher back then. So I went back into teaching and 0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:22.960 really put effort into that. And then I had a 0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.040 couple of iTunes and I moved into the business world. 0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:30.319 But I was really fascinated with helping people do better, 0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:35.680 get better. So business coach facilitator, just helping people understand 0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:39.280 what it's like to be have a consistent high performance. 0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:42.640 Now, hang on a minute, you start footy at sixteen, 0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:45.440 When the hell did you become a teacher? We mean 0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:48.560 you went back to teaching. We know what happened. 0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:50.839 So now this is the thing it's about. I think 0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:55.640 it's the reality of back then. So I put things 0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:59.080 in perspective. My first season was in the last year 0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:01.719 of black and white TV. I'm not talking about the 0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:04.480 I'm not talking about the color of the cabinets, the 0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:08.400 color of the screen, right with So back then it 0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:10.800 was three nights a week after five o'clock and Saturday 0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:14.000 afternoon training. So it was very much part time. It 0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:17.799 got more professional, professional than it had trouble trying to 0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:20.200 fit a job in with it, and now you know completely. 0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:22.920 You might have some little side side, a hustle at 0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:27.960 a part time job. Keep you saying, but you you know, 0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:31.600 and you just had to fit because we're married. We've 0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:33.800 got four kids. That had two kids and I wouldn't 0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:36.200 see them most of the week. I wouldn't see them. 0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:39.960 So you put them a bed on Sunday night. Then Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, 0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:43.320 Thursday would be work training, work training, work training, work training, 0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:46.759 come on Frida, you work Friday, see them at Friday night, 0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:48.920 then play footy on a Saturday. Maybe seeing Satday night. 0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:51.640 But you probably socially in because they didn't really socialize 0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:55.200 any other night. So, you know, my wife and I 0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:57.880 both teach. So I said, well, I'll start home for 0:38:57.880 --> 0:38:59.360 two days, and then i'll start home for four and 0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:01.080 then I'll start just a short period. And I said, 0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:03.400 it wasn't a great career and teaching, but it was. 0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:06.080 It was good for footing because you could put more time, 0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:08.080 but it was also good to see kids you actually 0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:10.920 can make it, you know, I was. I was spending 0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:12.600 more you know the old not just quality time. I 0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:15.520 was spending quality and quantity time with them. So you know, 0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:17.400 that's the thing. We've got to look a little bit 0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:19.920 different about your situation. It's just because everybody else does 0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:23.120 something one way doesn't mean you have to. And so yeah, 0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:25.960 that was to the point in the end, it was 0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:27.800 just too hard to do anything else but play footing, 0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:29.840 and so you're trying to struggle to fit that in. 0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:31.600 But then after, you know, when I finished, I went 0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:33.560 back to teaching because that was a job and it 0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:35.680 was good to throw yourself into it. But then I 0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:37.759 got a couple offers and I moved into business. And 0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:39.439 then somebody said I you should be a business coach 0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:42.560 one stage, and I said, whin. He went, oh, okay, 0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:45.080 that makes sense. And at that stage I had some 0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:48.520 very good examples of leadership, and I had some very 0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:52.440 bad examples of leadership. And I remember saying to myself, yeah, 0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:54.480 I'm tired. I worked for some great people, but I 0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:56.680 was in a couple of positions and I said, yeah, 0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:58.719 I'm tired of work with the dickead. I'll just go 0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:00.440 and work for myself on the dick. That's right. 0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:04.120 If I'm going to work for a nick head and. 0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.719 The other thing I've made, you notice that I'm really 0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:13.440 important in the modern rules. Don't lose your sense of 0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:18.080 human humor can be you know, I think humans humor 0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:22.000 is an intelligence, lots of intelligence. So other people where 0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:24.400 they take this it's not funny, they take that that's 0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:26.280 not funny. That's put them big, and they're very funny. 0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:28.359 So you got to really work on And I think 0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:33.240 it's important that yeah, laughing, laughing is laughing is good medicine. 0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:37.359 And actually you're laughing actually increasing doorphins that exercise does 0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:39.800 as well. So it's an important part of keep yourself 0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:40.400 fitting happy. 0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:45.440 And in twenty twenty five, do you find that people 0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:50.000 are still You're still Simon Madden the footy player, because 0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:55.280 Australia really holds high regard for the excellent footy players, 0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:57.240 and you're one of the excellent. 0:40:57.560 --> 0:41:00.080 No, thank you. It's an interesting one because I'm older there, know, 0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.120 I work close there in the station, so I do 0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:06.640 a lot of public transport, right, So you get on 0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:08.000 the train in the morning and there's a lot of 0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:09.759 people have no idea who I am, right because they're 0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:11.680 all young. You know, I forget it was a long 0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:14.640 time ago, right, But every now and then you find somebody, 0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.920 somebody think, how are you great? You know, like every 0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:19.479 now and then that still comes out, and most people 0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:21.399 are really good. Every now and you get a drunk 0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:23.000 he wants to tell you how to play football thirty 0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:27.480 years old. But most people are good. But yes, you 0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:29.440 still get it. You still get it. And but a 0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:33.160 friend of mine who's in the media, made a good point. 0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:36.880 He said, you know football, football is the currency of 0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:39.040 the city, which is a really interesting way to put it. 0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:41.359 You know, people, one of the worst things in say 0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:44.920 in Melbourne is I don't back for footy team, which 0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:47.439 is not good. Or you start back for Adelaide Cras 0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:49.719 and you never lived there. You know you have to 0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:52.520 have to Melbourne and follow Melbourne team. If you said 0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:54.399 I'm back for laid Cris because I grew up there, 0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:56.839 that's different. But the worst thing is so I don't 0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:59.479 have a footy team. I remember work. I remember working 0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:01.399 years ago and the I t were with a lovely 0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:05.080 young lady from I Saidney, and didn't know anything about footy. 0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:07.520 And there was the you gathering around the water cooler 0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:10.640 on Monday morning type thing, you know, one of those 0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:13.080 medew They started anze the footing I should go on 0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:14.800 and joined. So I got no idea. And it was 0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:16.600 a time when James Heird was a captain of s 0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:19.960 and a great play with Essen and had had broken 0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:22.040 it broke his face. He's running to me and sort 0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:24.840 of broke all of this had a huge and so 0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:27.000 she didn't even know that either. And I said, go 0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:30.800 into the walk in and just ask the question, what 0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:33.839 do you think about James Hurd's injury. So she walked 0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:35.600 to the little group and you could all see the blakes. 0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:37.360 You know what's fretty sort of stuffing You're watched you 0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:39.320 doing it. She just said, what do you think of 0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:42.480 James Hurd's injury? Well, the conversation just took off. Everybody 0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:45.000 had an opinion. Everybody that she started turned around him 0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:46.719 and I went, there you go, you just gotta know 0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:52.399 one to two things. I love that, as I said, 0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:57.560 I yeah, I realized that the world is much bigger 0:42:57.600 --> 0:42:59.880 than football. But you know, if you find something you like, 0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:02.880 you know, Gali hella, you know, if it's boxing, if 0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:05.759 it's music, if it's if it's football, it's sport, if 0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:09.239 it's investments, if it's what, if it's just get a 0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:10.840 good shot, come give it a good shot. You know, 0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:14.840 do your research, to your homework, learn from every mistake 0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:17.520 you made, try not to make too many, and try 0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:18.600 not to keep making. 0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:20.440 The same mistake, make the same mistake. 0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:23.160 Yeah, just keeping your head on the wall and wonder 0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:27.120 why it's still hurts, you know, like that. So it's yeah, 0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:30.560 it's important that. Yeah, you still get you still get 0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:36.360 notice sober it's it's it's nice. But sometimes just the 0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:38.800 funny things that happened. So with my wife and Ima 0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:42.719 and I were in Barcelona right for in Barcelona and 0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:45.440 Sunday night we're going on a food and mine to it, 0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:48.160 So walking food and WNE to it, which I thought 0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:50.160 started a bit like this in that it was fantastic 0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:55.480 and it's about I suppose fourteen seven couples. And so 0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:59.239 the tour guy turns up from from Germany. Where you from? 0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:03.240 You know, America? This fake said, look, I'm from Australia. 0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:05.880 But that like there he played for in the ASL, 0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:08.800 right to all these Europeans. I've got no idea. What 0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:11.680 so you played? Soarker? I said, Now I didn't play 0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:14.160 SoC Well you played Rugmany. I didn't play rugby NFL. 0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:16.200 Now I played APHL. What's I for? Then you've got 0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:17.719 to spend ten minutes? So I get out of video. 0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:19.640 I look, there's me run around the ground. Okay, put 0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:21.880 it there. Let's go and do wine and food. Right, So, 0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:23.640 every now and then you can explain and run like that. 0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:27.600 Luckily there's listen listening. There's a listen listening. But every 0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:29.000 now and then you still get you know, you can 0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:30.640 still get pushed up in front of the line because 0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:33.600 someone knows. I'm very aware of my privilege. You know, 0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:35.920 I'm very aware of that. So try not to overdo it. 0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:38.920 You know, somebody, you know, every now and then you'll 0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:40.520 go to the bar with some friends and somebody buy 0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:42.840 your be a simon, he's a thanks very much for 0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:44.799 all your foot you and that's lovely, you know, things 0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:48.799 like that. It's nice to be remembered that way. But yeah, 0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:51.759 I'm sort of I've moved on a little bit. I 0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:52.120 love that. 0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:55.040 One of the things I've developed a real appreciation for 0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:59.239 is doing things that are unlike me, doing things that 0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:01.800 are different. And I feel like when you talked about 0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:05.200 how football used to be a lot more part time, 0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:07.120 I think there's a gift in that because you were 0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:13.080 able to have other things and other identities within that. 0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:17.239 Like I just started piano a couple of months ago. 0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:19.960 I'm never touched to anything musical in my life. 0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:22.920 I show your fingers because a couple of mine have bent. 0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:26.480 Yeah, see that one that's buckled right, See that that 0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:31.000 Once I went to one single a f l W 0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:35.719 training match. I touched the ball twice. I double dislocated 0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:38.600 both of those knuckles and was never able to straighten 0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:40.319 or fully bend that finger ever. 0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:42.879 Again, that's not too bad on a piano, but this one, 0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:49.560 so that one right right now. If you want to 0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:51.080 be you know, if you want to be a sports person, 0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:53.919 especially you want to be a footballer, don't be a contempanist. 0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:55.360 If you want to be a contempanist, don't be a 0:45:55.400 --> 0:46:01.120 football I don't marry up very well. But that's good, tough, 0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:05.120 long learning. So I'm a little bit. I'm a little bit. 0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:09.840 It's like this month or this week, this month. I 0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:12.960 learned French for four years at school, right, and was terrible. 0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:14.959 And we went to French last year for a wedding, 0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:17.479 so I started relearning the French. So I've been relearning French. 0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:21.759 So and I got to bonjour, excuse me, does some 0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:26.759 more just for Australia path and so basically said, I'm 0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:31.520 Simon from australd. I don't speak French and that's how 0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:33.759 would you like me to speak English? Because mostly they do. 0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:36.200 So it's a great introduction. But there's a thing, you know, 0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:40.600 like keeping your mind alive as well as your body along, yes, 0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:43.759 is really important. So trying something new, you know. So 0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:45.960 I still play the guitar. My fingers were a bit 0:46:46.000 --> 0:46:47.400 sore for a while, you know, like I had a 0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:49.640 quarters on injection there to because I would, you know, 0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:52.279 this one month straight and then so this one month 0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:53.440 curl and that one wouldn't curl. 0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:55.040 But you sort of Hell the hell are you playing 0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:56.080 guitar with those things? 0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:57.120 Very badly. 0:46:57.719 --> 0:46:59.600 That was part of the reason why I didn't choose 0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:01.840 to because that thing is just not I was like, 0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:03.719 it gets in the way on the keys, but it 0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:04.520 really wouldn't. 0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:06.560 Yeah, but you've got it. You've got a nice little 0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:09.600 because you've got to have art fingers piano piano lessons. 0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:12.319 So I realized that guitar was a bit. It's very 0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:16.920 hard carrying a piano around with you. You've got a 0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:18.800 nice little curve in that finger, so I shouldn't be 0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:19.880 too bad to be able. 0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:22.080 To until you don't want that one to be touched 0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:24.200 in the key. When you want that to be the 0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:26.160 one that's lifting up, and it's when it won't get 0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:29.239 out of the way. I'm like, Okay, this is annoying, but. 0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:34.960 You've got to. Yeah, you've got to. I think if 0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:37.520 we can get you know, it's it's great being comfortable. 0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:40.719 You've got to push yourself every now and then, and 0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:44.839 sometimes just pushing yourself of going for a little while 0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:47.879 is really good. You know, when I play golf, I'm 0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:52.120 really pushing myself out of my comfort zone. Terrible, So 0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:54.200 you do I think it's good. It's good for the 0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:55.120 mind's good for the body. 0:47:56.000 --> 0:47:58.120 Yeah, yeah, what's next for you? 0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:05.319 Look, I have a good problem, right, So, as I said, 0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:07.920 I'm sixty seven, so it's and I don't like the 0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:10.399 word retirements. I didn't like with footy. So the problem 0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:11.840 I had is a good problem. How much work do 0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:13.160 I want to do? How much work don't I want 0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:14.759 to do? How much time I want to spend with 0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:17.280 my grandkids. We've got to hold our house down the peninsula. 0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:18.920 How much do I want to spend there? So we 0:48:19.040 --> 0:48:22.000 went overseas for the first time in five years because 0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:25.200 of COVID last year. We like traveling. So what's just 0:48:25.320 --> 0:48:28.160 working out the right balance? You know, like where we met, 0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:31.239 going to the network? Business network means how much do 0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:33.279 I want to continue a network to get business that 0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:35.719 type of thing. So it's a good problem to have. 0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:39.839 I know people have retired and they just they said, 0:48:39.880 --> 0:48:41.920 I don't know how I fit of work in it's magnificent, 0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:44.200 you know. And I know other people who've retired. I say, 0:48:44.239 --> 0:48:45.680 here you going. They look at you like, you know, 0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:47.600 the kangaro and the headlights going. I don't know what 0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:53.040 I'm doing, you know. So it's what and yeah, what's 0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:55.600 the right balance for your life? And that's a good 0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:57.399 I think it made its good. It's a good problem 0:48:57.400 --> 0:48:59.440 I've got at the moment. You know, see how we 0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:01.200 go because everything and then they roll out the old 0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:04.040 football at to talk somewhere. You know, I've got to 0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:05.640 get I've got to In June, I've going up to 0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:09.759 Breaking Hill speak up there at a weekend and a 0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:12.480 reunion for old people for weekend. I did a business 0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:17.160 business talk for a council last was last week. Things 0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:20.520 like that are good. You know, I've been to Breaking 0:49:20.560 --> 0:49:22.560 Hell three times, I think years ago. I think that's 0:49:22.600 --> 0:49:25.160 there's only four football clubs in Broken Hills. I think 0:49:25.480 --> 0:49:29.600 this must be the one unburned. So it's and it's 0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:32.480 a fascinating place to get to. But you know, things 0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:38.120 like that, Yeah, just uh, just finding the right balance 0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:41.080 that suits me is and I'm getting there. I think 0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:43.920 it's you know, it's very good. Meeting lovely people like 0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:45.520 you were doing this type of thing is really good. 0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:47.880 That's a good. Yeah, you said that's a good thing 0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:52.320 for me, meeting new people. It's and you know, I 0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:55.319 think you said we connected. I think we connect because 0:49:55.320 --> 0:49:57.799 I love your attitude, you know, like you're let's get 0:49:57.880 --> 0:49:59.239 up and do something. Let's go and get it. You know, 0:49:59.280 --> 0:50:02.080 let's go and do it. And I think a lot 0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:04.359 of people can spend too much time sitting down thinking 0:50:04.440 --> 0:50:07.040 and I do that, I overthink it. But also that 0:50:07.160 --> 0:50:08.840 you know, spend too much time on the on the 0:50:08.960 --> 0:50:13.480 computer game and you know, so it's you know, just 0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:15.360 getting up and doing anything, going going, have you have 0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:18.359 a go, have a red hot go. And I think 0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:20.279 for anybody to get in the boxing ring and be 0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:23.239 prepared to get somebody punched in the nose, you sort 0:50:23.280 --> 0:50:25.279 of go beep and you say, well, you've got to 0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:27.000 give yourself, you know, if you're not good at it, 0:50:27.040 --> 0:50:28.120 don't do it for too long. 0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:30.360 At it. 0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:33.800 Yeah, even if you've got really but you know, you 0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:36.160 think about how and I know people have done boxing 0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:38.160 training and they might never be in a fight, which 0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:44.160 is fantastic, but it gives them confidence. What you confidence, mind, confidence, speaking, confidence, posture, confidence, 0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:46.160 It's a whole lot of things that it can help with. 0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:48.480 And so I think it's really important that you know 0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:51.160 what's well, you know, it's a bit of a cliche, 0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:53.799 but what's the best version of yourself? And that's something 0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:55.600 that's never perfect. You got to keep you, You got 0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:57.640 to keep working on how can I know, how can 0:50:57.719 --> 0:51:00.400 I be a better person to help the world, How 0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:02.000 can I be a better person out for friends? How 0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:04.680 can I be a better person to help their family, 0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:08.520 whatever it is, you know, how can I improve? But 0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:10.680 also looking after myself at the same time, so I 0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:14.640 don't go down to crush it, you know, absolute crashing heat. 0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:19.719 So yeah, it's all about balance. Yeah. So, as a 0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:21.080 comedian said, I'm going to live forever. 0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:25.560 So far, so good, so far killing it. 0:51:28.200 --> 0:51:30.120 That's a good. I think that's a good I'm just 0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:32.520 going to keep going and tell him that I've met it. 0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:34.480 You know, I met I met like the other day, 0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:36.359 was eighteen. I thought he would have been about sixty four. 0:51:36.360 --> 0:51:38.920 He's unbelievable. I met people in their nineties who were 0:51:39.040 --> 0:51:44.319 just just just live, you know, fantastic, awake, live, people 0:51:44.400 --> 0:51:46.359 still going, you know, and eventually you're going to fall 0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:48.879 off the planet. But you know, once you ever read, 0:51:48.880 --> 0:51:49.719 I'd go along the way. 0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:53.120 I had two new clients this morning. I met one 0:51:53.160 --> 0:51:55.719 of them a friend's birthday, and they would both be 0:51:56.080 --> 0:51:59.239 somewhere in their seventies. They came in for their first 0:51:59.440 --> 0:52:02.680 ever seeing session. I put a post up on about 0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:06.440 them on LinkedIn and socials. So they're brilliant. They just 0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:09.960 there's nothing that lights my fire more than especially when 0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:13.240 they're women, because there's something special about seeing a woman 0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:16.680 put boxing gloves on and learn to use their body 0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:21.280 and express force, physical force. You just see this glitterly, 0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:25.960 this something comes alive, and you know, I'm watching them 0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:28.719 and I'm seeing them process and there's all this concentration 0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:31.440 and I'm like, are they like, which way is it 0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:33.480 going to go? Are they loving it? Or is it overwhelming? 0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:35.200 And they finish and they're like, this is the best. 0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:39.759 I'm dropping my water water aerobics every week now to 0:52:39.800 --> 0:52:41.840 come and do this. And I'm like, fucking sweet. 0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:46.040 And I think that you know, you know, you know 0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:48.880 that's saying We've got two sons and two daughters, and 0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:51.799 I talk about equal opportunity. I like to see people. Now, 0:52:51.920 --> 0:52:55.080 some people don't take opportunity. That's a different equal opportunity. 0:52:55.320 --> 0:52:57.680 So you know, historically, you know, my mother would have 0:52:58.000 --> 0:53:00.880 had how you do think about putting gloves on littlone 0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:04.719 actually using them? You know, and how dare you think 0:53:04.760 --> 0:53:06.960 you should be involved in anything as equal as a man. 0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:09.080 And you said, go, well why not, you know, let's 0:53:09.160 --> 0:53:11.560 just go on. You know, so I can imagine, I 0:53:11.640 --> 0:53:13.200 can you know, I can remember getting in the boxing 0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:16.040 gloves and learning the first few punches and sort of 0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:18.360 oh right, yeah, I've got to got to turn my 0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:19.839 body and I've got to come off my legs. I've 0:53:19.840 --> 0:53:21.600 got to use my thighs and I've got to you know, 0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:23.880 you've got to use your core. And it's great fitness. 0:53:23.880 --> 0:53:26.560 It's great fitness. It's a great way to It is 0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:28.000 a great way to keep fit. If you've got an 0:53:28.000 --> 0:53:30.359 injury too. This is one of the things you can't use. 0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:32.880 You know. You see some boxes that big bodies and 0:53:32.960 --> 0:53:34.839 skinny little leaves and I don't run around a lot, 0:53:35.120 --> 0:53:36.759 But you can actually still be doing a lot of 0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:40.000 training without running around too much with your leags. So 0:53:40.600 --> 0:53:44.160 it's it's a good thing. And if you see somebody 0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:47.560 take it on and go, oh wow, I've got not 0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:49.680 that late. I've got a friend who son, who's in 0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:51.640 his thirties, and he used to play a lot of foot. 0:53:51.680 --> 0:53:54.480 He just applefoot. He loved it, and he was always 0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:56.360 light and one of the things was. He was always 0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:57.960 still run around fast at the end of the game. 0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:02.160 A few years ago he took on Marathonony and he says, now, 0:54:02.239 --> 0:54:04.160 I think I took I think started the wrong sport 0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:07.160 because he's doing he's done to London on the New 0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:10.400 York and the Marathon, he's doing the Boston Marathon. He's 0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:11.879 doing the more you want to do, all the big ones, 0:54:12.239 --> 0:54:14.160 and he's running. He's running around in just on to 0:54:14.160 --> 0:54:15.560 and a half hours, you know, and if you can 0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:19.000 get under yeah, if you can do you know, not 0:54:19.080 --> 0:54:21.520 being a professional effort. If you can get under three hours, 0:54:21.560 --> 0:54:24.080 you're doing fantastic. You can get under two and a half. 0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:26.640 And he's starting, he's just on that edge. And he says, 0:54:27.239 --> 0:54:29.440 and he's in his late thirties something now, so he's 0:54:29.600 --> 0:54:31.840 just getting to the program might slide down. He's just 0:54:31.920 --> 0:54:33.319 trying to get I think he's trying to get under 0:54:33.360 --> 0:54:34.719 the two and a half for the Boston. I think 0:54:34.760 --> 0:54:37.400 it's coming out soon, you know, trying after that one. 0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:38.560 And then he can say, well, if I started to 0:54:38.600 --> 0:54:40.239 go back the closer to three, I'm happy that I've 0:54:40.280 --> 0:54:42.719 done all these ones. So just to see somebody do that, 0:54:42.840 --> 0:54:45.800 you know, later on. There's a whole lot of stories 0:54:45.840 --> 0:54:48.680 about people who have been successful in whatever in the 0:54:48.719 --> 0:54:51.439 sixties and seventies. You know, they've they've made the become 0:54:51.480 --> 0:54:53.520 the businessman they wanted to be in their seventies, or 0:54:53.560 --> 0:54:56.680 they've written the book in their sixties or there, or 0:54:56.760 --> 0:55:00.200 they've you know, they've traveled to the you know, I 0:55:00.320 --> 0:55:03.319 travel to the Seven Continents in their ratings or whatever, 0:55:03.360 --> 0:55:05.960 you know, whatever they've done. It's that thing that if 0:55:05.960 --> 0:55:08.840 you're alive and that you know, I suppose what I 0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:12.080 haven't finished yet, you know, when you finish it down, 0:55:12.120 --> 0:55:13.719 you know, so I haven't really finished it. And I 0:55:13.800 --> 0:55:16.600 think that for me, that's you know, that's sort of 0:55:16.640 --> 0:55:18.719 something I'm sort of clean. On tours, I get old. 0:55:18.760 --> 0:55:20.359 I don't want to be I don't want to be old. 0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:22.560 I mean, I'm going to get old, but I don't 0:55:22.560 --> 0:55:25.719 want to be odd. There's a big difference money. I've 0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:28.239 seen people who are old in their forties. I've seen 0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:30.719 people in their thirties. They just really said in this 0:55:30.840 --> 0:55:33.400 so I can't do anything, and I don't want to 0:55:33.480 --> 0:55:36.840 try it, and and they said I can't, you know, 0:55:37.040 --> 0:55:39.840 And back to what I said, if I can't do 0:55:39.880 --> 0:55:43.160 it yet, and these people haven't done it, starting to 0:55:43.239 --> 0:55:45.359 do it. They've got, they've got, and I think it's 0:55:46.120 --> 0:55:49.040 it's great. I'm inspired by people. Let me go and 0:55:49.080 --> 0:55:51.560 they smile when they do it, even a child, And 0:55:51.640 --> 0:55:54.319 I think that's connection. You're having a red you're having 0:55:54.320 --> 0:55:56.359 a red hot going business and read go what you're doing. 0:55:56.400 --> 0:55:58.800 I think it's it's you know, I love saying it. 0:55:58.800 --> 0:56:01.440 I love to see people get up, never get thank you, 0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:02.640 keep doing it. 0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:05.600 Look, thanks for chatting to me today, Thanks for giving 0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:09.320 my listeners a good ear full of your awesome, lively, 0:56:09.840 --> 0:56:13.840 energetic self. Where can we find you online? Where do 0:56:13.840 --> 0:56:14.520 you want to point them to? 0:56:14.920 --> 0:56:16.880 I look very very easy. I should be doing I 0:56:16.920 --> 0:56:19.120 should be doing a lot more of everything social media. 0:56:19.160 --> 0:56:21.480 But it's easy. So I'm Mada dot com dot are you? 0:56:21.760 --> 0:56:26.000 It's just me and my feelings. Idea idea with organizations 0:56:26.080 --> 0:56:30.040 to help them with their people, their leadership, their culture 0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:33.880 and their team, and about sustainable high performances for how 0:56:33.920 --> 0:56:35.880 to get good and stay good in what you do, 0:56:36.400 --> 0:56:38.279 because you know, in sporting a whole lot of things, 0:56:38.320 --> 0:56:41.439 people can be really good, really quick and fall over. Yeah, 0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:44.480 and don't stay there and it's one thing about being successful, 0:56:44.960 --> 0:56:46.880 there's another thing about staying successful. 0:56:47.760 --> 0:56:49.120 You're awesome. I'm going to have your links in the 0:56:49.160 --> 0:56:57.240 show notes. Thanks mate. Everyone go check him out. She said, 0:56:57.280 --> 0:57:02.480 it's now never got fighting in my blood. 0:57:05.840 --> 0:57:08.200 Got it. Trick quite a coast, got it. 0:57:09.960 --> 0:57:14.400 Little gotta lot of coast, got it,