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Speaker 1: Welcome back to backstage, back to backstage. Does that sound good?

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Speaker 1: I like that thanks to.

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Speaker 2: Backstage alliteration or penwith terms back to back to backstage

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Speaker 2: or potending for back to back to back to backstage.

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Speaker 1: That could be a very interesting topic. Let's we'll revisit

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Speaker 1: that next week, potentially preview for this week. You guys

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Speaker 1: know how we do it. We pick a card and

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Speaker 1: then whoever gets the highest card gets to pick the

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Speaker 1: team that they think is going to win that in

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Speaker 1: that game, and then we will analyze it. Matthew, Before

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Speaker 1: we get into this, I wanted to ask you you've

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Speaker 1: played in a lot of preliminary finals week before the

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Speaker 1: grand final. How do they I guess match pressure wise

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Speaker 1: to a grand final? And what was your experiences like

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Speaker 1: in that?

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Speaker 2: Before we get into that too. For us, say we

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Speaker 2: have all six games we've covered so far, I'm zero

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Speaker 2: to six.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've won every Yeah, yeah, I've I won the last,

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Speaker 1: I've won the first four from four, I've got last

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Speaker 1: two weeks, I had Sharks and roosters, and I mean

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Speaker 1: I've got the hard hand. I couldn't do it again.

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Speaker 1: Could I imagine going through the whole final series and

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Speaker 1: you don't pick a single winner.

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Speaker 2: I've done a full card at round week before, coeps

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Speaker 2: here Grand File and qualifies that this is this is

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Speaker 2: a huge weekend. Back when I was a kid, well

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Speaker 2: kid you know in my tunes and late late eighties

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Speaker 2: into the early nineties, this was my favorite weekend because

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Speaker 2: you go down they had the Sad Day and the Sunday,

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Speaker 2: the two Grand Final qualifiers and you go and sit

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Speaker 2: down and enjoy it the full best sides. This this

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Speaker 2: to me was always the most nerve racking game because

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Speaker 2: when you get through to the Grand Final, like the

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Speaker 2: week the week of the Grand Final is just sensational.

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Speaker 2: It's so good, all the hype around it, all the excitement,

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Speaker 2: the occasion, the day, it's just something you never forget

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Speaker 2: to miss out on that in the Grand Final qualifies

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Speaker 2: all so that that's all the pressure which applies to

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Speaker 2: the Grand Final qualifier. I've had a couple of experiences.

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Speaker 2: I had one in England, but the two I've had

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Speaker 2: in Australia we're ninety eight. I'm sorry, I've had three.

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Speaker 2: I forgot one. Nineteen ninety five we played Manly and

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Speaker 2: a Grand File and qualifier. We were a team that

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Speaker 2: year a little bit like the Cowboys a couple of

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Speaker 2: years ago that came out of nowhere. Unfortunately, Manly had

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Speaker 2: been our bogie side and they bereat us in a

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Speaker 2: really tight game twelve points to four. The Cliffey Lion

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Speaker 2: scored late. But we're a young team then, so it

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Speaker 2: didn't really weigh on us too much. Well, we're going

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Speaker 2: to take the next step. The next year was terrible.

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Speaker 2: The following year is ninety seven. We played Grand We

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Speaker 2: played North Sydney of the ground file and qualifier. It

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Speaker 2: was the game where we led. I think it was

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Speaker 2: twelve four at halftime. Joey went in at half time,

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Speaker 2: got a needle into his ribs and punched at his lung.

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Speaker 2: Second half was a real struggle. He was sort of

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Speaker 2: on and off the field, but we won on the

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Speaker 2: back of a field goal.

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Speaker 1: Who kicked that? Do you remember who kicked? It?

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Speaker 2: Was trying to think. I think it was an iconic

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Speaker 2: five eighth. Yeah right. That got us through And when

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Speaker 2: we went through to that game. I remember Grand Final

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Speaker 2: week in the sheds before the game were about to

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Speaker 2: play Manly. I had nowhere near the amount of nerves

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Speaker 2: so I had the week.

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Speaker 1: Before, Yeah right, Wow, yeah, right, that's amazing.

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Speaker 2: So these four teams, these four sets of players, even

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Speaker 2: guys like Nathan been there and done it before. There's

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Speaker 2: a special kind of nerves going this weekend.

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Speaker 1: It'd be extremely nervous. I've never played in any but

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Speaker 1: I imagine I'll pick first for this. So this is

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Speaker 1: for the Storm and Roosters game on the Friday night

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Speaker 1: eight for me right in the middle. That is correct.

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Speaker 2: God, what I could do? God, I hope I get

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Speaker 2: the Storm. I've got some grand plans for that team jacking.

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Speaker 1: The Storm are the favorite and four perfect. Okay, I'll

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Speaker 1: take the Storm man wonderful, a little bit of a storm,

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Speaker 1: which means you get your Roosters.

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Speaker 2: Not all bad. I was very impressed by the Roosters.

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Speaker 1: Hey, they were very good against a manly side that

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Speaker 2: I thought you were to make a side play pool.

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Speaker 1: That is true.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, but they had epic game the week before.

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Speaker 2: Mainly I thought with a shorter turnaround, it caught up.

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Speaker 1: They played their Grand final week before.

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Speaker 2: Okay, question, yeah, yeah, well of course Storm didn't play

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Speaker 2: last week. But what did we learned last week? Out

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Speaker 1: I just took out of that game. How instrumental some

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Speaker 1: ran it up to knock out Jake Chivroyvich, which those

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Speaker 1: two knockouts at the start really like not took the

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Speaker 1: And we spoke about last week how important it is

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Speaker 1: to start well in big games, like through that statut

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Speaker 1: there the last ten Grand Finals, the team that has

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Speaker 1: know he's comes under fire off again suspended, but what

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Speaker 1: he did last week against the Manly Pack Jeezy led

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Speaker 2: The week before Cooper the Roosters began with very little

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Speaker 2: emotion and they got stuck in the barriers and Penrith

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Speaker 2: just came out with plenty of emotion and blew them

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Speaker 2: s manu Ki, they're always going to be up emotionally

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Speaker 2: and that showed from from the first run how farther

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Speaker 2: up and when you got that big dog there. Shwan

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Speaker 2: Johnson was in a Sunday night chat and he spoke

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Speaker 2: about the difference when j W h Is in the

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Speaker 2: like he's our bloke, he's the one that's going to

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Speaker 2: stand up to the bullies. What do we learn? What

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Speaker 2: I learned was was the best part of the Rooster's

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Speaker 2: game is fast reactive football as opposed to those long

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Speaker 2: set up sequences. Is that when the when the when

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Speaker 2: the role starts and the momentum is on and you

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Speaker 2: know you keep the kettle boiling, don't play restart football

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Speaker 2: or try to look positions on the field, just keep

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Speaker 2: self going. The best example I could give with that

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Speaker 2: was the was the first try James Tedesco to Victor

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Speaker 2: Radley under the post. A bit of football either the way,

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Speaker 2: a little bit of broken play. Tedesco gets in the

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Speaker 2: first receiver and does the perfect bit of ball playing

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Speaker 2: for twenty twenty four with the fast rocks, catch the ball,

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Speaker 2: Victor Hadley. Victor Radley replaces the hold.

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Speaker 1: Hadley.

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Speaker 2: What's that whe're on this? Something?

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Ray Hadley's for? She starts throwing with you out there

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Speaker 2: like Victor Hadley and south is and he bites back, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: him straight, and Victor replaced the hole and just went

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Speaker 2: straight underneath the post. Having said all that, Coupot, I

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Speaker 2: need to say this, you can't play the whole game

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Speaker 2: at a million miles an now playing fast and reactive

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Speaker 2: like a like a human body. A game plan needs

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Speaker 2: a spine, but he needs he needs a skeleton. That

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Speaker 2: skeleton is the game plan and the structure and the structure,

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Speaker 2: and you fall back to that. I'm not saying don't

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Speaker 2: use structured set sequences, but you need to realize that

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Speaker 2: those structured set sequences are all about putting a dent

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Speaker 2: in and disrupting the defense so that when you turn

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Speaker 2: around and then start to play fast, you are it's

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Speaker 2: a lot more effective.

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Speaker 1: My game breaker for this week, that's the next one,

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Speaker 1: going off what we learned from the Roosters last week.

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Speaker 1: I think I think the Storm's game breaker has to

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Speaker 1: be Nelson for Solomona. I think the storm pack has

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Speaker 1: been outstanding this week, a lot of improvement from last year,

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Speaker 1: which which they probably lacked a little bit in punch

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Speaker 1: and a bit of explosiveness. But I think Nelson. Nelson

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Speaker 1: is the kind of guy. He has a long history

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Speaker 1: with the Roosters and when he's on he's just so damaging.

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Speaker 1: I think he needs to be the face of that

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Speaker 1: wouldn't want to say bully them, but if you can,

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Speaker 1: if you can go after those leaders that they got

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Speaker 1: in the pack, it just it completely takes out their

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Speaker 1: other individuals in that side.

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Speaker 2: The word you use is right bullying. That's what the

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Speaker 2: big guys in the middle do. That's what they're looking

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Speaker 2: to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who's yours? Game breaker?

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Speaker 2: Just don't want to ask you about I just want

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Speaker 2: to ask you about Nelson. Really strange year for Nelson. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was North Sydney.

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Speaker 1: For North Sydney for a stint. He's had a couple

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Speaker 2: What what what has been the problem? What's is it?

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Speaker 1: The fact that he's come back two years in a

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Speaker 1: he just comes back a little overweight, and Belly just

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Speaker 1: likes to have that standard of you're not playing first

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Speaker 1: think it's just more Belly knows, you're proven to play

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Speaker 1: discipline to keep you at that weight and if you're

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Speaker 1: not at it, but I mean he's when he's in

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Speaker 1: that there's no doubt. Like they're at their best when

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Speaker 1: Nelson's in the side.

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Speaker 2: Well, I said, but he certainly taught him a lesson

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Speaker 2: because most of this year he's been in and out

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Speaker 2: wasn't there, and there was talk of him being forced

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Speaker 2: out of the club. Mind it's obviously Tedesco, yeah is

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Speaker 2: And the thing I learned that he's Another thing I

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Speaker 2: learned about last week's game is that Tedesco's still got

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Speaker 2: at least another couple of years of football left in him.

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Speaker 2: It was one of his best It was says a lot,

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Speaker 2: but it was one of his greatest games as a rooster.

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Speaker 2: And he's two hundred and fiftieth. He was really really

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Speaker 2: good Tedesco. Tedesco is nowhere near the same player on

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Speaker 2: wide sweep options around on block formations, he's not. It

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Speaker 2: just sends him down cold. To say, Teddy's best football

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Speaker 2: the rucks. So if you know, and not to say

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Speaker 2: you don't play those players. Yeah, those sequence plays. I

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Speaker 2: would say to my halves on those long, long, long

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Speaker 2: the football, which invariably is your back rower and Tedesco

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Speaker 2: Well, particularly coop because in these days the outside man

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Speaker 2: So if you can hit short and make a dent maye,

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Speaker 2: they've got about twenty meters to turn around and get back,

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Speaker 1: He's very crude. Well, I was actually down there with

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Speaker 2: Intlight the lucky charm. You like the rabbits, You let

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Speaker 1: I knew, no, no, So I knew, I said, because

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Speaker 1: but I will. But he's very cruisy Harry. He's someone

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Speaker 1: who he used to be very like when he was

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Speaker 1: Actually the Bromwich Brothers used to do it like it

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Speaker 2: It's funny that it spokes to like using something that

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Speaker 2: and I used to get them my hands needled to play.

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Speaker 2: But it was really funny. The pain of getting noodled

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Speaker 2: This might sound irresponsible, and it does, even to the

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Speaker 1: Really, yeah, that sort of started. Billy Slater spoke about

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Speaker 2: In your trigger. I remember once in the car with you,

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Speaker 2: We're going to do a game, and you were playing

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Speaker 2: Abbas Dancing Queen, which I thought was highly unusual as

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Speaker 1: My trigger used to be a song and then actually,

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Speaker 1: funnily enough, my trigger turned into reading a text message

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Speaker 1: which was from you. I've actually never told you this before.

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Speaker 1: It was you sent me a text message I had

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Speaker 1: It was a real nice message in a sense where

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Speaker 1: it's a real nice moment. I'm really proud of you

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Speaker 2: Actually meant to send it to Jerry.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you might have said to the cube Krome.

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Speaker 2: Last question, want to ask about some of your players, Yeah, Munster,

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Speaker 2: Harry Grant, Jerome, Hughes in some ways remind me that

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Speaker 2: almost looks like the odd Man out just almost in personality,

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Speaker 2: Am I am? I am? I right there?

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Speaker 1: Well Hughes, he Hughes is quite I would says, monsters

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Speaker 1: all of those guys in personality wise. Harry's very cruisy,

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Speaker 1: to himself away from footy a little bit too, catches

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Speaker 1: himsel I've got a quirky sense of humor or pat

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Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to one bloke I really has

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Speaker 2: a great game as Luke Keary. Luke Keary possibly his

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Speaker 2: last game in the NRL, and what an amazing career

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Speaker 2: he's had. Mate, is that little bloke He doesn't get

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Speaker 2: enough credit. Mate, He's a street fighter, he is man.

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Speaker 2: He's he's a been a great player in switch Boy.

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Speaker 2: A lot of great players came out of Ipswich and

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Speaker 2: w went into their bulldog site. Yeah, the Walters Brothers

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Speaker 2: He's been a great player's been a great fellow. His

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Speaker 1: He did an interview with Face to Face on Fox

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Speaker 1: Now that actually he opened up a lot about the

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Speaker 1: we might just get him on. Actually one stays that

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Speaker 1: really delve into it. A great idea, idea. How are

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Speaker 2: We're going to win through our forwards. That's going to do.

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Speaker 2: I fancy, I fancy our chances through the forwards, Lindsay Collins,

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Speaker 2: then you've got the competition, in my opinion in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four of the competition's best forward, which has been

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Speaker 2: Angus Crichton. That's a very very strong pack of forwards

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Speaker 2: and we must dominate. We have to dominate, because if

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Speaker 2: if it's you know, if you say who won the

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Speaker 2: Ford Battle it's a dead heat, then you're buying mate.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be the dam wallbusting, because mate, your

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Speaker 2: blokes unless we dominate, your bloke's going to just be

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Speaker 2: pouring through the middle. As far as the football down there,

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Speaker 2: I always say about Melbourne when you're playing Melbourne Storm

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Speaker 2: their play with fourteen men and the fourteenth man is

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Speaker 2: It sort of conditions that we're not as used to here,

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Speaker 2: cool and slippery all that won't be as bad this

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Speaker 2: I need a back rower dropping underneath or hitting the hole.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to trying to play around them.

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Speaker 1: Similar to you, I just had your wind by going

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Speaker 1: after the individuals. Roosters have always been a side who

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Speaker 1: have had these magnificent individuals and they rely probably more

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Speaker 1: after those blokes is name dropping. You underestimate people that

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Speaker 1: don't play footage. Name dropping is such a huge thing

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Speaker 1: out and identifying them, it really does put people off

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Speaker 1: their game and it makes them know that you're on

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Speaker 2: It's funny for playmakers. I said to playmakers all the

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Speaker 2: when you're about to call the ball, and they got

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Speaker 2: I got John's. I got John's. Don't worry, I've got him.

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Speaker 2: When the big middle forwards are saying that, what they're

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Speaker 2: please don't run them. I'm name dropping you because I

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Speaker 2: dropping you. I am preventions better than the cure monster

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Speaker 2: on name dropping you put please push the ball sideways.

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00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the best tactic for me Alban

435
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 1: is to kick kick to Dom Young and Daniel Tupo

436
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:03,919
Speaker 1: and try to land on him.

437
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 2: On the full and.

438
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 1: What that does is takes out there. They rely on

439
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 1: their big wingers for that next carry after a kick reception.

440
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 1: You don't want to find to desco on it because

441
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 1: he brings it back hard and he always finds little

442
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,439
Speaker 1: gaps and then it allows their wingers to take that

443
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 1: next tackle. You want to desco on that tackle straight

444
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 1: after a kicked reception because you have the you have

445
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 1: a better ability to get numbers in and dragon him back.

446
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 2: Jack, it's time.

447
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 1: Who do you think, mate, Storm cam Munstermount of the

448
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 1: match Matthew, I.

449
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:35,400
Speaker 2: Think Jackson is even once given my team.

450
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 1: He picked both of your teams last week, but he

451
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 1: got them both wrong.

452
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 2: You cursed me last week.

453
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 1: You pick first. For the next game, we have the

454
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 1: Sharks against the Penwrith Panthers. Matthew, Oh Jack, Oh Jack?

455
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: Giants eight double eight? Okay, who do you want?

456
00:21:54,800 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 2: I'm going to the Premieres. I'm going for the team. Yeah.

457
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: What we learned last week. What I learned last week

458
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 2: about Cronulla, it's pretty straightforward. I learned that the key

459
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 2: to stopping Cranella the Cornella Sharks has reduced their yardage

460
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 2: and force them sideways. Present no opportunity in the middle,

461
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 2: slow their ruck and push, make them push the ball

462
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 2: toward the sideline, and that gets them into the habit

463
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 2: of playing too much sideways football East West football, as

464
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 2: supposed they did last week, punching forward. Okay, how do

465
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 2: we dominate the yardage? Well, how we dominate the yardage

466
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 2: is stopping their back five. Last week their back five

467
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 2: ran for carried the ball one hundred times, almost unprecedented,

468
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 2: and as a consequence, the four has gotten a roll.

469
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 2: Brayley go to the dummy half Trendle and Nick how

470
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 2: were given time. Everything stems, everything stems off that back

471
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 2: five and what they do on tackle one, two and three,

472
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 2: that's our challenge, squashing play one two and three.

473
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had this learning for the Shark's pretty simple.

474
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 1: Simple is better for those guys. I think, like you said,

475
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 1: you want them to play sideways. I think they did

476
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: it really well last week where they just kind of

477
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: bang the middle, play a lot more direct, and then

478
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have these massive long shifts where they go

479
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 1: on sideway sideways, just simple plays off the back of

480
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: good go forward and hard work to initially to wear

481
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 1: out their forwards.

482
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 2: He's been funny like you look at tries sometimes and

483
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 2: you know the final pass might be a love little

484
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 2: flick or a trick. But everything the pebble in the pond,

485
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 2: that everything reverberates off simple simplicity. It's hit the line, hard,

486
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 2: play the ball, quick build momentum, might be a quality offload,

487
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 2: a direct power running, whether off a shortball or just

488
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: to hit up. That's where it comes from.

489
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: Who's your game breaker.

490
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard of this bloke, Nathan Cleary.

491
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:54,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just sort of picks himself.

492
00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 2: It's obvious. But they're beautifully balanced, creative team. You've got

493
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 2: Dylan Edwards, who just Dylan Edwards. Every game he plays.

494
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 2: There's an argument that he should be Man of the match.

495
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 2: He just he's the hard worker on the side that

496
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: assists the forwards. He got Yo, who is Isaiah Yo.

497
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 2: It's just a no how recognizing a game and him

498
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: adjusting his game to what suits. Perfect example, the last

499
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: game they played where they blew the roosters away, he

500
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 2: looked and said, Nathan's coming back in the side. Louis

501
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 2: on fire. I don't need to be playmaking. I'm just

502
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 2: going to run the football. Yeah, now, in this game.

503
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 2: He might get there and he might find that Nathan

504
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 2: a little bit off, or Jerome might be carrying ninja. Really,

505
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you'll start playmaking Lewis. Jerome has

506
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: the flare and Clearies the general, he's the one that

507
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: just pulls it all together.

508
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: My game breaker, Cam McGinnis, I had I was a

509
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: part of a good win when we beat Penrith, first

510
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: team to beat Penrith at blue Belt Stadium a couple

511
00:24:59,520 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 1: of years.

512
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 2: Ago when we were at Melbourne.

513
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: Of that yep broke the sort of the big hot

514
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: streak and the thing we found when analyzing the game

515
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: in the week leading into was the only way you

516
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,239
Speaker 1: beat Penrith is by doing a Penrith on Penrith like.

517
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: They are the best at pinning you in a corner,

518
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: completing early, just playing simple. But all they do is

519
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 1: just they only think about field position and wearing you

520
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: down for the first twenty minutes of the game. That's

521
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: all they do. They just wear you down consistently, play short,

522
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: drop people under clearly kicks the corner. They have a

523
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: really good kickchase fly into your wingers and then from

524
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: there they just bash you on the plus one and

525
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: plus two after that. So my game breaker is Cam

526
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 1: McGinnis because you just need somebody who's willing to put

527
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: all the effort areas in on kickchase and plenty of

528
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 1: kick pressure because that's going to go a long way

529
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: kick pressure and the.

530
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 2: Big middles Leota and Fisher Harris. I mean Cam Murray's

531
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,719
Speaker 2: got the sorry, Cam McGinnis has got the foot speed

532
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: and the footwork to really worried those big blokes. Size

533
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: won't worry him, but I think spoon and mobility will.

534
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: Do you know, do you know Braden Trindle?

535
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: I do know. Tricky used to live with Harry Grant

536
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: actually in under you played under twenties at Melbourne Tricky

537
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: Trindle did he really? When they were based up in

538
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: the Sunshine Coast, he lived with Harry. I've made him

539
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: a couple of times, had to be with him. Good feller,

540
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 1: good excellent footballer can play rugby league.

541
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: Reminds me a lot of James Maloney. Yeah yeah, because

542
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 2: in an age of Olympic athletes playing rugby league, he doesn't.

543
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: He's not that body type Jimmy. Jimmy Maloney was the same.

544
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: Like if Jimmy Maloney was if you went to the

545
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: enclosure and watched Jimmy and Maloney. If he was a

546
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: racehorse going around, you wouldn't back him, but he just

547
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 2: he was a winner and he was an old school footballer.

548
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: I think Bryden is a little bit like that. Yeah, Nicker,

549
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 2: what's your expectation? How's how's Nico going?

550
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: I really liked it. We spoke about it. I really

551
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 1: liked the game. I mean it's still I mean somehow

552
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: managers still cop it even though they get a big

553
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 1: they have a really good win on the weekend, which

554
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 1: I feel for him in that sense where you know

555
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: he's been forced to come into a side, an inform

556
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: side and just just do a simple role, help the tea.

557
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: Just you being out there is going to give the

558
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: boys confidence in that sense, and now you know he's

559
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: he's probably copying it more so from a fans point

560
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: of view, but I mean you look at you look

561
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: at the Melbourne that. I think it's almost an insult

562
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: on Trindle people doing that because they're almost saying, well,

563
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: Braden Trindle is not a good footballer. If he can't,

564
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: if he can't you stand up and have a more

565
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: dominant game or more dominant season than a certain player. Mate,

566
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: you look at the storm spine. Jerome Hughes will go

567
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: out there and he'll play. He'll play a ten out

568
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: of ten.

569
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: Two weeks ago, Munster had the hot hand and Jerome

570
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 2: was quite because he pulled himself out of the game

571
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: a little bit, so you know he needed me.

572
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: The best teams and the best players can take ego

573
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: out of it and just do what's best for the

574
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: team in that moment.

575
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: Your spot on, Coop, I haven't thought about like a bit,

576
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: Like it's so unfair on Nicko, but it's also unfear

577
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: on Tricky because people are going, we'll hang on Tricky

578
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 2: outplayed Nico. What's the matter with Nicko? Yeah, I mean, like, yeah,

579
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 2: you go.

580
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: It's like, mate, if Braden Trindle's playing better than there

581
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: must be something wrong with it. It's not that he's a.

582
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: Good footballer, Coop. I said to Cooper Kronk the other

583
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: Cooper the other day. With the Nico situation, it really

584
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: highlights one of the worst aspects of professional sport in

585
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 2: what begins as general, like what begins as measured, A

586
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: measured critique on someone's game, which might not be positive,

587
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: but it's measured criticism. Bit by bit becomes this crazy

588
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: pylon where it just rolls, rolls on, rolls on all

589
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you know, it just gets out of control.

590
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: That's how it's got with nico At.

591
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: It all started the one origin when he was put

592
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: in the centers, and then kind of from there, it's

593
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: just whenever he has a bad game or an off game,

594
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: it's just they just happen for him.

595
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: It's I must say, it's a very strangth thing to do.

596
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: We've always tautry with a tall poppy. Yeah there is.

597
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: And look, Nick Old admitted himself he's down in confidence,

598
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: has mean his best football, but some of the stuff

599
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: has been over the top people.

600
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense some of the ship that

601
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: I've seen people saying, you go, what the fuck does

602
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: that mean? You want to dally m two years ago?

603
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: What are you going to get rid of kaylen Ponger

604
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: if he has a bad back into the year.

605
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's crazy, Okay, Coop, how are we

606
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: going to win this game? I sort of going to win?

607
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we I sort of said it before. You

608
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: need to do a paneth on panth, which is they

609
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: need to complete well the first twenty minutes and all

610
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: they're all Shark's energy needs to go into the effort areas,

611
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: which is catching the ball on the full kick, return

612
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: into just getting through your set. But their biggest eenterences

613
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: has to be on their defense, which is ticket as

614
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: far as you possibly can land on the wing as

615
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: soon as they catch it, and just try to keep

616
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: them at Penrith in there as far as you can

617
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: inside their own fifty for as long as you can,

618
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: because they are a team who just they want every

619
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: set they want to beat you by five meters and

620
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: then after five or six sets they're attacking a goal line.

621
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: That's right, they winning that yardist For people who sit there,

622
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: if you can get if you watch your game, particularly

623
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: get yourself in an elevated position. Sometimes the nose blues

624
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: seeds are the best place to watch on how you

625
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: know he's winning the yardish game. If a fullback, if

626
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: Dylan Edwards was to catch the ball on the twenty

627
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: meter line on reception and at the next set of six,

628
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: after the next two sets of six he catches the

629
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 2: ball at twenty five meter line, well then you can

630
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: see Penrith will win the artist battle. If he catches

631
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: it on the ten meter line. Then you say, well,

632
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: Cronulla have just got the ascendency in the last couple

633
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: of sets. Yeah, so that's how you work out trends

634
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: and yardage for me, and you just said on it there.

635
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: They want to win the yardage battle five meters by

636
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: five meters, and when they do that, eventually you're going

637
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: to get Nathan into a attack kick area, which is

638
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: anything over halfway less in this game. I'd say to Nathan,

639
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: given how important it is to squash their play one,

640
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: two and three, I'd say, Nathan, mate, anything from fifty

641
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: five meters out, just whack those bonds up. Force Will

642
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: Kennedy to catch the ball on his heels. Squash that play, Squash,

643
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: play two, squash, play three, and good luck Cronulla for

644
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: the rest of the set, I'd start. Cooper said they

645
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: like to we down a little bit. I do get that. However,

646
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: I like it when Penrith come out and played a

647
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: furious pace. I love that they're the sort of side coop.

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Speaker 2: They've got such great combinations and familiarity, and they've played

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Speaker 2: this style the way they play it at the moment

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Speaker 2: for such a long time. Everyone knows their role. They

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Speaker 2: don't need to they don't need to play conservative to

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Speaker 2: be in the arm wrestle. They can play their normal

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Speaker 2: way and you know, yardless of what they do in

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Speaker 2: that set of six, Nathan's going to put the ball

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Speaker 2: in the corner or up in the air or put pressure.

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Speaker 2: So for that reason, boys stay fast, play fast. If

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Speaker 2: Cronulla hold their hands up and so the way you know,

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Speaker 2: and they're defending, well maybe take a step back then,

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Speaker 2: but play fast, challenge them, don't let them rest in defense.

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Speaker 2: And the other one is we just spoke about tricky

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Speaker 2: is Melbourne Storm. He said before. They like to pick

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Speaker 2: a player and go after Well. I think this week

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Speaker 2: Ivan will go to Braden purely because he's had a

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Speaker 2: week of agulation and praise and so this game is

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Speaker 2: going to be a challenge.

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Speaker 1: Well, Jack, what's your prediction. Have you got Storm? I mean,

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Speaker 1: have you got Sharks of Penrith? Oh yeah, panthers Mit

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Speaker 1: Mitch Kenny, I won't argue with that ow man. Mitch

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Speaker 1: Kenny one of the greats.

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Speaker 2: But Coop's good luck and regardless of what happens, let's

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Speaker 2: remain friends, relatives.

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