Speaker 1: I want the fairy tale, I want the prince charming
Speaker 1: she how.
Speaker 2: Do I put this?
Speaker 3: Isn't a fan of my kissing style?
Speaker 1: Boyfriend and girlfriend for about twelve hours.
Speaker 3: He's in a trash bin.
Speaker 1: He's non recyclable, catching them up.
Speaker 3: I loved being love. I love love.
Speaker 4: On today's episode of Where's Your Head Out, we are
Speaker 4: welcoming to the studio Alex mav, the executive producer of
Speaker 4: hit Australian TV show Love Island Australia and I'm a celebrity,
Speaker 4: Get me out of here.
Speaker 5: We'll be questioning Alex on how the contestants are selected
Speaker 5: for these shows, how producers stir up the drama, how
Speaker 5: editing plays a hand at increasing ratings, and he'll give
Speaker 5: us his thoughts on this year's lineup of season four
Speaker 5: of Love Island Australia.
Speaker 4: Stick around to hear what goes on behind the scenes
Speaker 4: on some of Australia's juiciest TV programs. Where's Your Head
Speaker 4: Out is a podcast that talks all things relationships, breakups,
Speaker 4: reality TV, trending shows, and everything in between.
Speaker 5: This is your new go to destination for laughs, gossip,
Speaker 5: intimate details, advice and much more.
Speaker 1: Hey, Matt, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Welcome, thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Your head up.
Speaker 2: How are you both?
Speaker 4: We're doing well, good good both in relationships.
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 2: So? I was going to ask, I saw you got engaged.
Speaker 1: Congratulations, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4: Very big life moment for me. So I'm really excited. Thanks.
Speaker 1: Not the person who you might have thought. But we
Speaker 1: just need one.
Speaker 2: We just need one couple to stick together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were going to say it has to be
Speaker 4: this year. There's a lot of pressure on it's.
Speaker 2: Gonna be this year. Look we've got we're going to
Speaker 2: come out of this season with a few people in love.
Speaker 2: Let's hope they last more than like what a year?
Speaker 3: Wait? And I did? Yeah, and I did just over
Speaker 3: a year.
Speaker 1: I did a year of the hard yard and then.
Speaker 2: Enough were you with when they did the blog? Or
Speaker 2: you split up?
Speaker 1: By that point it was like three months after we
Speaker 1: broke off. I was like, fuck.
Speaker 2: You you are you mates? Or you just don't like
Speaker 2: each other at all?
Speaker 4: And no, we're totally civil, like it's you know, it's
Speaker 4: very very.
Speaker 3: What should it better than me? I did what like
Speaker 3: a week?
Speaker 4: Mat did about two days and he was like, okay.
Speaker 2: See us duo t we got off the plane.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well look, mad, we were on your show Love
Speaker 4: Island season two and now you're on our show.
Speaker 1: Did you think you'd see the day?
Speaker 2: No, I didn't. I didn't behave This is what I do.
Speaker 2: I make stars, you know. Great?
Speaker 5: Wow, just in full Just to be clear, we have
Speaker 5: full editing reign now, so.
Speaker 1: The table fully goes around, comes around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just don't frank and grab me.
Speaker 5: Okay, now we're going to say you looked after us,
Speaker 5: so we've got your back.
Speaker 3: Don't worry.
Speaker 2: You know what, do you know, I'll get this in
Speaker 2: while I can. Love Land is actually the most honest
Speaker 2: reality show there is because we don't have Frankly, we
Speaker 2: don't have time to do all the frank and grabbing
Speaker 2: stuff that you know. Look, you know your shows like
Speaker 2: the Back, and I've got nothing but love for all
Speaker 2: of these shows. And I've got people I respects work
Speaker 2: on them. You know, shows like Married at First, like
Speaker 2: The Bachelor, you know all those other shows. You know
Speaker 2: they have months in the edit, sweet months, literally multiple suites,
Speaker 2: multiple editors. We have one night to get our show together. Certainly,
Speaker 2: when you guys did it, you know, like literally ten
Speaker 2: hours in an edit sweet, So you are what you are.
Speaker 5: I remember when I was with my ex QR. She
Speaker 5: was messaging you about frankin Bye and you you had
Speaker 5: some strong words.
Speaker 3: To say about it. You hated it. Yeah, you said
Speaker 3: it's bullshit or something like that, do you.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's not fair. I agree, I get
Speaker 2: I get it sometimes, like if someone misses up their words, right,
Speaker 2: if I was to say, oh, you know, hi Matt
Speaker 2: and Sue sorry, I mean, and I are doing nice
Speaker 2: to see you today. Yeah, I've got no problem with
Speaker 2: you cutting out the yan Sue and blah blah blah
Speaker 2: and making it high man and Anna. That is that's
Speaker 2: fair game because I'm meant to say it. Yeah, But
Speaker 2: if I say Anna, I you know, I love you,
Speaker 2: and then hey Matt, I hate you, and then suddenly
Speaker 2: on television and say Anna, I hate you, that's not fair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 4: It's not what actually happened. So it's yeah, essentially it's
Speaker 4: not fair.
Speaker 2: But you know, we've got a job to do. We've
Speaker 2: got twenty four hours of vision to get down to,
Speaker 2: you know, one hour, so we're always going to cop
Speaker 2: it from Theorlanders every single time, you know, any reality
Speaker 2: TV show producer will cop it no matter what a
Speaker 2: great job they do, because people will be like, why
Speaker 2: didn't you show that bit? Why didn't you show that bit?
Speaker 2: And that's just like because there's twenty three hours you know,
Speaker 2: or you know, twenty three hours of the day that
Speaker 2: are not going to be on television.
Speaker 4: So have you guys had a lot of backlash as
Speaker 4: producers from ex contestants coming to being like, what the
Speaker 4: fuck is this?
Speaker 2: Honestly no, because I believe that the three big reality
Speaker 2: ses shows that I've done in Australia, Big Brother you
Speaker 2: know when it was proper Big Brother, I'm a celeb
Speaker 2: to get me out of here, and love Land, I've
Speaker 2: all been fast to turn around shows. And even now,
Speaker 2: even though the Spain is already in the can, our
Speaker 2: series pause in the can, we still cut it exactly
Speaker 2: the same, you know, So it looks and feels like
Speaker 2: love l Like we've shot one episode a day, we
Speaker 2: will cut one episode a day. It is exactly the same. So,
Speaker 2: like I said before, the fact, the fact is on
Speaker 2: my shows, I don't have the ability to turn you
Speaker 2: from the hero into the diket, you know. So the
Speaker 2: answer is no, I have absolutely no doubts. I'm not
Speaker 2: stupid that people will slag us off behind our backs
Speaker 2: and go, they really fucking you know, they've done this,
Speaker 2: and they've done that, blah blah blah blah blah. More
Speaker 2: with us, it's a bit, you know, it's the dramatic edit.
Speaker 2: So like, let's say there's a fire pit, right, I'll
Speaker 2: give you the example. There's a fire pit and you know,
Speaker 2: the commercial track is pumping, you know, and the drama
Speaker 2: you know, and you've got the flames and the moon
Speaker 2: and it's all you know, and you know, and you
Speaker 2: cut to a shot of Matt's face. Now we want
Speaker 2: Matt to be sitting himself because he's about to get dumped,
Speaker 2: and that's her going.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 2: Will we use a shot of him looking serious and
Speaker 2: five minutes before you better ask your all because you
Speaker 2: know it's a television show and you know we're building
Speaker 2: the drama. But again, that's fair because that was how
Speaker 2: he was feeling at the time, do you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Yeah, that is that's that's the limit to
Speaker 2: what we go. I've heard horror stories about other producers
Speaker 2: getting absolutely you know, trolled and ripped apart, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but not me, but like, look, you.
Speaker 4: Guys can turn someone who's like maybe not like that
Speaker 4: much of a likable person into a really good person,
Speaker 4: like you can give someone like a superstar edit though, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, but again, we don't have a
Speaker 2: lot of time to do that. I mean, it's pretty
Speaker 2: hard to hide a bitch you're a dickhead, you know.
Speaker 2: On I'm a celeb. We've had some celebs that, you know,
Speaker 2: it was pretty hard to make them heroes, you know,
Speaker 2: and there's a show, it's a show about heroes, and
Speaker 2: we made the decision you know, not to because we're
Speaker 2: showing what actually happened. So you know, there were a
Speaker 2: few and I'm not going to name drop now, but
Speaker 2: you know there were real dicks in camp, and we
Speaker 2: showed them being dicks, you know, because that's what happened.
Speaker 2: I can't think of an example where we turned someone
Speaker 2: who was, you know, a really terrible human being into
Speaker 2: a nice person. Well, yeah, sure, we might have to
Speaker 2: sanitize stuff, like if there is something that is really
Speaker 2: full on, you know, or can't be shown for classification reasons.
Speaker 2: You know, we've had arguments in the Love Island Villa
Speaker 2: before that, you know, are you know, all fs and
Speaker 2: cs and screaming and shouting and we can only show
Speaker 2: this much of this much because if we showed the
Speaker 2: rest would be taken off air. Yeah, you know, so.
Speaker 5: On that, what was the biggest drama you've had to
Speaker 5: deal with as like a producer?
Speaker 3: Like actually on TV?
Speaker 2: I mean, look, there's there's sad ones and there's massive ones.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll start in love I in terms that
Speaker 2: the physical fight between Grant and Eden in season one
Speaker 2: and Spain was full on. You know, there was a guy,
Speaker 2: one of the bombs called Dom I thank god he
Speaker 2: was six foot five. He essentially saved that franchise. You know,
Speaker 2: he doesn't know this, he's probably never heard that story,
Speaker 2: but he put his body in between these two bull elephants,
Speaker 2: you know, who were about to rip each other's fucking
Speaker 2: eyeballs and stood like this. And because we can get
Speaker 2: there quick enough, you know, we had security there and
Speaker 2: they were in pretty quickly, and all the islanders were great,
Speaker 2: but you know, you had Taylor, Demir and Eron and
Speaker 2: you know Millie and you know, all these kind of
Speaker 2: tiny human beings around and these two blokes going at
Speaker 2: each other and Dom put himself in the middle, and
Speaker 2: I think, and I'm a fat bastard, and you know
Speaker 2: I'm The villa was four hundred meters away from the
Speaker 2: control room. I was in that villa in two and
Speaker 2: a half.
Speaker 1: Minutes, running for your life. That I feel, don't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I still remember an hour on when you said
Speaker 5: that you did a mercy run up to the villa
Speaker 5: when yeah, when Luke said he was going home, I
Speaker 5: still use that expression now.
Speaker 2: I remember. I remember I had to give Luke a cigarette.
Speaker 2: So there's a little there's a little behind the scene.
Speaker 3: Behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: I got a cigarette at one point.
Speaker 3: Sure n Yeah, I think you're giving a lot of
Speaker 3: darts here.
Speaker 4: Every we needed a relax and at that point anything
Speaker 4: was give me anything.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: That's actually one of the questions I had for you.
Speaker 4: Why do we only get one alcoholic beverage a night
Speaker 4: on Love Island when in other reality TV shows they
Speaker 4: get them absolutely hammered.
Speaker 2: Yep, Okay. Well, to really clear answer that question, I'll
Speaker 2: give you the responsible one First, is that no other
Speaker 2: show puts you in bed together. Oka. The worst thing
Speaker 2: that can happen on Love Land, and there's no secret
Speaker 2: around this, is that someone touches somebody that doesn't want
Speaker 2: to be touched, or something inappropriate happens and there is
Speaker 2: a lack of of consent and alcohol blurs those lines.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know how many times in our normal lives have
Speaker 2: we done stuff when we're pissed and the next morning
Speaker 2: woke up and gone, oh.
Speaker 3: Ship mate every weekend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's why that is the number one reason.
Speaker 2: The number two reason is I think it makes shit
Speaker 2: TV because you know, you are slurry, you make, you
Speaker 2: make poor decisions. I don't want to make a show where,
Speaker 2: you know, drunk people are screaming each other. I'd rather
Speaker 2: make a show where scream the sober people are screaming
Speaker 2: each other. And Love Hold is a show where we
Speaker 2: want you to look amazing all the time. Who looks
Speaker 2: great when they're off their tits? Nobody? You know, you
Speaker 2: might look great to other people who are off but
Speaker 2: trust me, you know I made I made Big Brother
Speaker 2: for many many years back when it was filmed up
Speaker 2: here in Queensland. And you know they might get four
Speaker 2: sometimes five drinks a night back in the good old days.
Speaker 2: And you know when when you go past a level,
Speaker 2: you can't it anyway because they just they'd look pissed.
Speaker 2: It's not you know, it's just not the way to
Speaker 2: make the TV and it's not responsible, especially with you know,
Speaker 2: we're putting boys and girls together in an intimate situation
Speaker 2: and you're all under our duty of care.
Speaker 6: So you know, every single year, please we have another beer.
Speaker 6: Please give another beer, Please with another glass. It's like
Speaker 6: it's like herding cats, and you'd be like, yes, I
Speaker 6: want one now. But in hindsight, when you look back
Speaker 6: at that series and look at how good you looked? Right, Like,
Speaker 6: how good did you guys?
Speaker 2: Look? You know you're never going to look better at
Speaker 2: any time in your life than you do when you're
Speaker 2: in love Land Villa. Right, Yeah, you are the peak
Speaker 2: of your health, the peak of your hotness. And that's
Speaker 2: because you can google you know, Anna from Love Island,
Speaker 2: and that's what's going to come up. Do you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? So do you want to be that?
Speaker 2: Or do you want to be the pissed girl?
Speaker 4: I thank my lucky studs every single day that I
Speaker 4: wasn't allowed more than one drink in that shark as
Speaker 4: well things one hundred real quickly.
Speaker 6: Yeah, don't think, don't think you're lucky stars thank.
Speaker 7: God, thank you.
Speaker 5: Do you remember me walking out of the finale? Was
Speaker 5: like a six pack under my arm. I was like,
Speaker 5: I haven't heard this.
Speaker 2: But once the cameras are off, are off.
Speaker 4: Look for people listening at home and they look at
Speaker 4: you and they're like, wow, he's the executive producer of
Speaker 4: Love Ireland. Shows like I'm a celebrity big brother, like
Speaker 4: amazing shows like the best shows essentially in Australia, How
Speaker 4: do you get there?
Speaker 1: Do you study?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: What's the process to getting to where you are? For
Speaker 4: people who are aspiring to do what you do?
Speaker 2: Look starting from the absolute bottom level. So I've been
Speaker 2: in Australia since film obviously English, I've been in Australia
Speaker 2: since two thousand and one, so I've been there for
Speaker 2: a long time now two thousand actually, yeah, twenty two
Speaker 2: years now. I did a media degree which was all right. Honestly,
Speaker 2: in hindsight, going back to whenever that war, you know,
Speaker 2: a million years ago, nineteen ninety seven or whatever it was,
Speaker 2: I actually think I probably could have done what I
Speaker 2: did without it, because I don't know that I learned
Speaker 2: much and just got myself into debt. And having said
Speaker 2: all that, I did the degree, but actually a funny story.
Speaker 2: And I wrote a letter to a local production company
Speaker 2: and it was the best letter I've ever written in
Speaker 2: my life, but probably the most important letter I've ever
Speaker 2: written in my life. And it basically said, you look
Speaker 2: I am. You know, I've always wanted to work in television.
Speaker 2: I knew I've always wanted to work in television. I've
Speaker 2: always wanted to hear the words that I write, the
Speaker 2: games I come up with, the things that you know
Speaker 2: come from my brain on the screen and entertain people
Speaker 2: around the world. And they loved that letter and I
Speaker 2: got job as a runner. I was never asked to
Speaker 2: show my university degree once. It's still in the loft
Speaker 2: at my dad's house. It's never come out of the
Speaker 2: envelope that I got in it. So I could have
Speaker 2: basically lied and said I've got a media degree in like,
Speaker 2: you know anyway, I'm not. I'm not suggesting people can
Speaker 2: go a union anyway. So I write it really.
Speaker 5: Do lots coaching even always stay in school. You're like,
Speaker 5: don't go to school.
Speaker 2: Go to school. So I wrote really good letter, but
Speaker 2: I started at the bottom of the bottom, you know,
Speaker 2: And I'm talking about you know, a runner's job in
Speaker 2: television is one of the hardest jobs in the world.
Speaker 2: You know, you will be driving cars with idiots in
Speaker 2: the back of them. You know, you'll be photo copying,
Speaker 2: You'll be making sandwiches, You'll be doing coffee runs. Some
Speaker 2: of the things the runners have got to do on
Speaker 2: Love Island, you know, like you know what happens in
Speaker 2: that villa. These guys have got to change the sheets,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean. It's it's not a
Speaker 2: great job, but you've got it. You've got to do
Speaker 2: it because that's how you that's how you get in now.
Speaker 2: I was lucky enough to be working for a very
Speaker 2: small budget show and that meant that many people working
Speaker 2: on it. So but you know, I got to operate
Speaker 2: cameras and I got to write some funny lines, especially
Speaker 2: it's a teenage show about you know, teenage issues, and
Speaker 2: so I managed to get up pretty quickly. And then
Speaker 2: I found myself working at the BBC on the Live
Speaker 2: Hospital Show, which is nothing like what I do now.
Speaker 2: Of course, there was a show that round for many
Speaker 2: years of BBC One, and I remember I worked with
Speaker 2: an Australian guy and I remember being in the car
Speaker 2: park at Guy's Hospital in London that was pissing down
Speaker 2: a rain and our porter cabins were next to the
Speaker 2: place where they used to incinerate like bits of dead skin,
Speaker 2: and you know, so you'd have this constant smell of
Speaker 2: dead flesh in your nostril and it was raining and
Speaker 2: you could smell like, you know, massacres going on next door.
Speaker 2: And then my phone rang and it was this guy
Speaker 2: and he said it was Chris, his name is And
Speaker 2: he said, I've just got the job as a series
Speaker 2: producer on Temptation Island with filming in Fiji. Would you
Speaker 2: like to come over and be a field producer on it?
Speaker 2: And I was like, yes, got myself working holiday visa,
Speaker 2: came over, did the show in Fiji, came back to
Speaker 2: Australia and honestly, my plan was to you know, drink
Speaker 2: and shag my way around Australia for six months, honestly,
Speaker 2: but you know it didn't work out. I met a girl,
Speaker 2: I fell in love. I've got a job on Big
Speaker 2: Brother season two two thousand and two, did a good
Speaker 2: job and it's kind of all gone on from there.
Speaker 2: And really, you know, my advice to anyone who wants
Speaker 2: to work in this genre. Television is just is to
Speaker 2: understand storytelling and understand casting really because you know, it's
Speaker 2: all it's all about the cast these shows, and it's
Speaker 2: all about how much you're willing to put into it
Speaker 2: because you've got to sacrifice a lot. People don't think
Speaker 2: about the people behind the camera as much as they should.
Speaker 2: You know, we spent so much time away from our families.
Speaker 2: We work outrageously long hours. And look, I'm not complaining
Speaker 2: because I love it. You know, I love my job
Speaker 2: and I believe I work on the best two shows
Speaker 2: in Australia, So not complaining for a second. But you
Speaker 2: know you've got to You've got to put in the
Speaker 2: hours you really really do. I mean, if you can
Speaker 2: understand what makes good entertainment, then you're halfway there.
Speaker 5: Amazing on that when you got the job for like
Speaker 5: Love Island Australia, had you done your research and watched.
Speaker 3: A lot of Love Island UK? Or how'd you just when?
Speaker 2: So I was ICV, I was doing on a celebri
Speaker 2: it TV. You know, got the tick for Love Islands
Speaker 2: and I started frantically researching. So you know, I certainly
Speaker 2: wasn't a fan at the time. But I remember watching
Speaker 2: the UK season three, that was the one with Kem
Speaker 2: and Chris and Anbur and Montana. I mean that was
Speaker 2: the best apart from our seasons. Obviously the best Love
Speaker 2: Islands ever have been made, you know, And it was
Speaker 2: just like, I want to make this show for the
Speaker 2: rest of my life. You know. It's hot people doing
Speaker 2: sexy stuff in the best place on earth, and it's funny.
Speaker 2: What I love about it more than anything, more than
Speaker 2: any of the rest of the stuff, is it takes
Speaker 2: the piss out of itself, you know, with that classic
Speaker 2: voice over, you know, Sophie Monk tongue in cheek, we
Speaker 2: will take the piss out of all of the Islanders,
Speaker 2: and we make no apology for it, but we take
Speaker 2: the piss out of ourselves even more. You know, Like
Speaker 2: we're not saying this is the most important dating experiment
Speaker 2: in history. You know, we're saying, Hey, if you're really
Speaker 2: hot and you're up for an amazing laugh and you
Speaker 2: want to mix with other hot people and you want
Speaker 2: to make some good telly, come to Spain and let's
Speaker 2: do it. You know that's pretty well.
Speaker 4: Look, let's talk about all the hot contestants and what
Speaker 4: makes a good contestant?
Speaker 2: Next?
Speaker 4: Okay, mav we have spoken about how to become a producer,
Speaker 4: but we really want to talk about what makes a
Speaker 4: good contestant.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I have a theory that to.
Speaker 4: Be cast on a reality TV show, you need to
Speaker 4: be a bit of a narcissist.
Speaker 1: Am I on the money?
Speaker 2: There you have? Okay, it depends on the show. Helps
Speaker 2: on Loveland massively helps on Loveland because you know, I'm
Speaker 2: a narcissist. I'm not hot like you too, but I'm
Speaker 2: definitely a narcissist. I don't I don't think it's a portrait.
Speaker 2: But you know, if you care, if you care about
Speaker 2: yourself that much, you know, you are always caring about
Speaker 2: what the public think about you, tick, because that is
Speaker 2: the show. You know, You've got to win the public.
Speaker 2: You cannot win love old if you can't win over
Speaker 2: the public. Right you care what the I'm going to
Speaker 2: use you as an example. You care what the boys
Speaker 2: in the villa think about you? Right? If they choose
Speaker 2: someone else of you, that is going to hurt your
Speaker 2: feelings fucking big time. If you're a narcissist, Right you
Speaker 2: care about you care about what the other girls think
Speaker 2: because you've always had issues with acceptance and you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, like you always want to be like
Speaker 2: the King Girl, you know in the Girl, Yeah, thank
Speaker 2: you having some words or sene so yes, it massively
Speaker 2: helps because if you are a narcissist, you will give
Speaker 2: us or give us, you'll give Australia the right reactions
Speaker 2: to all of those huge format beats. I would say,
Speaker 2: if you are willing to give yourself up absolutely to
Speaker 2: what the show is, then that actually makes a better contestant.
Speaker 2: If you look at the people that have won this
Speaker 2: show or done very well out of this show, and
Speaker 2: I include obviously both of you and this certainly and
Speaker 2: because you ended up winning it, they gave everything that
Speaker 2: they had to, you know, to what it was. They
Speaker 2: either were desperate to find love.
Speaker 3: That's pretty key for it.
Speaker 2: The people that don't succeed, other people that are walking
Speaker 2: around the day going I wonder how they're editing me.
Speaker 2: I wonder, you know, if they're going to show that bit.
Speaker 2: You know, I wonder if if I go and say
Speaker 2: this will make good Telly, Should I go to the
Speaker 2: beach Hut and like do a funny joke so I
Speaker 2: can get into this show? You know, like, don't mean.
Speaker 5: I was like I was sitting back and they'd be
Speaker 5: silly not to show that.
Speaker 3: Great.
Speaker 5: I remember walking over with the microphone being like, you
Speaker 5: guys do not want to miss this.
Speaker 8: And we'd be like, oh yeah, good one. Everyone on
Speaker 8: your cameras at Matt. He's about to do something.
Speaker 3: You guys are welcome and walk away like you're welcome.
Speaker 2: You know. You know what the biggest the thing that
Speaker 2: ships us the most. I love on the absolutely the most,
Speaker 2: and you're going to hate this map is this?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, can we filling the marketphone?
Speaker 2: Can we get some more beers? Yeah? Yeah, Alex, Alex,
Speaker 2: did you abrat to cause the five? Hey hey, hey guys,
Speaker 2: I'm just going to go. I'm going to go and
Speaker 2: chat Tolana now on the on the day beds over there.
Speaker 2: You might have followed it, fucking yeah.
Speaker 3: I remember you're telling us just don't grab your fucking bike.
Speaker 2: So simple, so simple. Don't don't swim in them and
Speaker 2: don't talking them like this. Yeah, that's in two rules.
Speaker 4: Well, when you're choosing contestants, is there like obviously like
Speaker 4: you have I don't know how many is in the
Speaker 4: cast this year, Like thirty.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four, twenty five.
Speaker 1: Twenty five.
Speaker 4: So are they kind of all sorted out into, like,
Speaker 4: you know, like the person who you think could potentially win,
Speaker 4: the funny guy, the villain, Like, are they kind of
Speaker 4: pre sorted before you start filming?
Speaker 2: Certainly not who we think can win, because I'm going
Speaker 2: to say that we don't give a ship that wins,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, you know, we do, we do,
Speaker 2: we do when it comes down to the crunches, obviously
Speaker 2: obviously with human beings and people that absolutely deserve to
Speaker 2: win the people that don't. But when we're casting that,
Speaker 2: that's the last thing on my mind. You cannot put
Speaker 2: I'm just going to say the number of ten because
Speaker 2: that's sort of how many you start with. You cannot
Speaker 2: put ten people that are the same in a villa.
Speaker 2: So that doesn't mean we're looking for heroes and villains.
Speaker 2: We're looking for people that are going to provoke a
Speaker 2: reaction with the audience. Okay, you can't put ten bubbly
Speaker 2: blonde girls in the villa who are a bit sweet
Speaker 2: and you know, a little bit funny. You can put
Speaker 2: one of those in, and then you need to put
Speaker 2: in the fari brunette who looks completely different. Because let's
Speaker 2: be honest, you know, it's a TV show and when
Speaker 2: you put up we call it the bust back as
Speaker 2: our industry term, when you put up the bus back
Speaker 2: of the ten Islanders. Okay, you need different colors of hair,
Speaker 2: different colors of skin, different different heights, different levels of
Speaker 2: tax different you know everything because viewers and I include
Speaker 2: myself in this because I'm a viewer too. You know,
Speaker 2: human beings. I should say. When you sample a show
Speaker 2: in ten seconds, you don't say, Okay, that's Anna mackelvoy
Speaker 2: from Melbourne and she's twenty seven years old, and well
Speaker 2: you know all that kind of stuff. You don't take
Speaker 2: the whole backstory and you go, oh, there's a hot
Speaker 2: blondeing yeah, oh, there's the tall wrestler guy.
Speaker 5: And everyone has different flavors as well, so they might
Speaker 5: see one that stands out to them and they go, oh,
Speaker 5: I want to see you know that blonde haired one.
Speaker 3: There she looks fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And again with the edit is you can't bring
Speaker 2: everybody up in episode one. You know you've got to
Speaker 2: You've got to look at that day as a whole
Speaker 2: and look at you know who couples up with who
Speaker 2: and you've you've basically got to go, Okay, We'll save
Speaker 2: Matt a bit until tomorrow, you know, because he's you know,
Speaker 2: he tells that hilarious story in the morning, you know,
Speaker 2: so we will. We'll pull back a bit on Matt
Speaker 2: and concentrate on Adam here, and then tomorrow we'll pull
Speaker 2: back a bit because you can't just go, here's everybody,
Speaker 2: here's all of your toys. Toys at Christmas. Here's ten toys,
Speaker 2: and they're all equally amazing, and they're all really expensive,
Speaker 2: and I want you to play with all ten of
Speaker 2: them immediately. You've got to go, here's four toys, and
Speaker 2: we'll keep these six back until Boxing days.
Speaker 3: Do you play pre matchmaker though, like do you have?
Speaker 2: We've got sweeps, we've got money. Yeah, we put we
Speaker 2: bet on who's going to win, and we you know,
Speaker 2: all that stuffer had. I got all of the predicts
Speaker 2: wrong this year. For one one couple that hooked up
Speaker 2: on day one, I got correct. I think I did.
Speaker 2: I think I did the right. I think I did
Speaker 2: it right. In your season, Actually.
Speaker 3: Do you remember anything?
Speaker 2: Uh? Who coupled up on day one? Mandy?
Speaker 3: I copled up with Vanessa.
Speaker 2: I got that. You got that right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said I wanted a brunette with who was.
Speaker 2: Cartio with Jared?
Speaker 1: Jared?
Speaker 2: Jared? I got that right as well. I think I
Speaker 2: think I got like literally all of them right on
Speaker 2: your series. Really the one I was pretty happy with myself.
Speaker 3: Actually, take from the part a good couple of underd.
Speaker 2: Dollars?
Speaker 3: Well, what personality traits as well? Do you look for
Speaker 3: in a contestant?
Speaker 2: They've got to not have their shit quite together? Fuck,
Speaker 2: because you know, you know, what is the fun going
Speaker 2: Welcome to Loveland. Here are some really well rounded individuals
Speaker 2: who have got no problems at all, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 1: It's so true.
Speaker 4: Like, Okay, so when we went on Love Island, and
Speaker 4: I'm sure with every season that you do, you guys
Speaker 4: do like a pretty vigorous mental health assessment. Is there
Speaker 4: anything that you look for specifically that kind of like
Speaker 4: kicks people out?
Speaker 2: Yes, with your psyche assessment, that could be things that
Speaker 2: kick you out, definitely, because duty of care is absolute
Speaker 2: number one. And look, you know it is a really
Speaker 2: full on thing to not only be on television twenty
Speaker 2: four hours a day. Yeah, like you know, you're on camera.
Speaker 2: Everything you do, You're put in a situation where you
Speaker 2: are being chosen from you know, you could get rejected
Speaker 2: by a member of the opposite sex. You're putting a
Speaker 2: situation with a whole load of other people who, let's
Speaker 2: be honest with you, generally high achievers in life because
Speaker 2: they're so hot. You know, they've had to do much.
Speaker 2: You know, It's true, It's true. It is a very
Speaker 2: confronting thing, and you need to be very psychologically robust
Speaker 2: to do the Love Island villa. So is the things
Speaker 2: that can rule you out through the psycho evaluation one
Speaker 2: hundred percent. We don't cast with the psycho evaluation though.
Speaker 2: I think that you know, as you two would both know,
Speaker 2: you guys are pretty much already in before you did
Speaker 2: the syite test. The site test is what knocks you
Speaker 2: could knock you out, you know, and it's a really
Speaker 2: important part of the process because Love Island starts from
Speaker 2: the second iPhone you up and say you're in to eternity.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Like you two could
Speaker 2: still you know, get some PTSD or whatever from your
Speaker 2: loveld experience, and you know, you know, do you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like it's really for long and it
Speaker 2: goes on, you know forever, you will forever be a
Speaker 2: member of a really exclusive group of people that have
Speaker 2: been in the Love Island villa. And we have had
Speaker 2: no issues in Australia because of that. Again, because going
Speaker 2: back to the way I believe the show is fairly
Speaker 2: edited and the way that we treat our Landers, whether
Speaker 2: they're in the villa now, or they're in the or
Speaker 2: they're about to go in the villa, or whether they're
Speaker 2: in the villa three years ago. But more important than
Speaker 2: them all those things is that we won't put anyone
Speaker 2: in our villa that we would worry about, like, you
Speaker 2: have got to be tough enough to do this. And
Speaker 2: I say this to them all the time. You know,
Speaker 2: when you're in the villa, you're on TV all the time,
Speaker 2: and there's pressure to will always look good. There's pressure
Speaker 2: to be on the show more, and there's pressure to
Speaker 2: hook up with this guy and this girl, and there's
Speaker 2: pressure to kiss somebody, and there's pressure to not get
Speaker 2: dumped after the show. You know, you've got people going
Speaker 2: you're a fucking dickede or Love old. You know, I
Speaker 2: don't like your face, you know, it's like, well, you know,
Speaker 2: are you are you tough enough to deal with that?
Speaker 2: It takes a tough person, you know, to ignore, ignore
Speaker 2: the trolls, ignore all the bullshit and realize that, hey,
Speaker 2: it was actually a really great experience. It's actually a
Speaker 2: really great show, and nothing bad can happen here, right,
Speaker 2: what's the worst thing that can happen? You leave the
Speaker 2: villa without a partner, you go back and you've got
Speaker 2: a few hundred thousand more followers, and you go back
Speaker 2: to your life.
Speaker 4: Fine, Yeah, So what type of things rule people out there?
Speaker 1: And just out of curiosity?
Speaker 4: So like, let's just say I'm like at the very
Speaker 4: end of the road, I'm about to be in the villa.
Speaker 1: What's gonna kick me out?
Speaker 2: A boyfriend?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you want to get around.
Speaker 2: A police report that says that you stabbed a granny.
Speaker 1: Or something, you know, definitely definitely out with that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, there's more serious stuff that I don't think
Speaker 2: we should go into with the Cyde reports. But you know,
Speaker 2: it's pretty obvious that if you have got a long history,
Speaker 2: or not even a long history, you know, a history
Speaker 2: of mental health issues, then probably being on a television
Speaker 2: show you know the films twenty fur hours Day is
Speaker 2: not not the place. Have you have.
Speaker 3: You regretted putting any contestants into the villa?
Speaker 2: Look, I regret every every series. Every series, there's always
Speaker 2: a couple that you go, oh, probably could have done better.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to know names anything to ask me,
Speaker 2: but yeah, you're both.
Speaker 3: Does that come? Does that come?
Speaker 2: Or is it? But you get it wrong every time.
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, so I'm going to go right back,
Speaker 2: right back to Big Brother in two thousand and nine
Speaker 2: when I became a Big Brother and you know, that
Speaker 2: was the final the first time when I started doing
Speaker 2: casting tours and talking to people face to face, and
Speaker 2: you know, and you'd go into a network and go, right,
Speaker 2: this person is amazing because they're infectious. You know, they're funny.
Speaker 2: You know, they look you into eye and they talk.
Speaker 2: They've got this funny, cute little giggle. Know they you know,
Speaker 2: they've got an amazing backstory because you know they were
Speaker 2: born in an orphanage and you know, sorry, they were
Speaker 2: an orphan and all you know, you sell these people
Speaker 2: because you're convinced they're going to be great, and then
Speaker 2: they walk into the house and they do fuckle and
Speaker 2: you go shp okay. But then you really think about it,
Speaker 2: and you know you've met them maybe four maybe three
Speaker 2: times face to face. You know, you've looked at all
Speaker 2: their socials, you've talked to their friends. You know, Like
Speaker 2: we go hard on casting because it is everything, but
Speaker 2: you can't ever be certain. You can never ever ever
Speaker 2: be certain and say, hey, this person is going to
Speaker 2: be the best islander of all time. You know, I've
Speaker 2: got a lot of experience in this in this industry now,
Speaker 2: and I still get it wrong. Like you know, I've
Speaker 2: got a pretty good hit rate. Nine times out of ten,
Speaker 2: you go, this person is going to be great. Put
Speaker 2: them in. You're never going to regret the same. But
Speaker 2: I'm a celeb as well. You put them in, But
Speaker 2: every single time, what you're actually doing is God, I
Speaker 2: really hope this person is going to be as good
Speaker 2: I think they're going to be. You know, and most
Speaker 2: of the time we get it right. Sometimes we get
Speaker 2: it wrong.
Speaker 5: Do you remember any thing when you're casting either of
Speaker 5: us to get us?
Speaker 2: I remember we went back and forth with you, Ana
Speaker 2: as to whether they put you in from the start,
Speaker 2: whether to make you that first bomb, and we we
Speaker 2: were arming and ouring for so so so long because
Speaker 2: we like, we really felt, well, we really felt that
Speaker 2: you were genuinely in it for love, like you're right,
Speaker 2: we say. I remember saying somebody that this girl's either
Speaker 2: the best actress in the world or like she really
Speaker 2: really wants this, And so we were then arming and
Speaker 2: ring as you know, do we put her in the
Speaker 2: opening ten and you know, have the love story from
Speaker 2: like you know, from day one, and then maybe she
Speaker 2: gets her heart broken after a week and it's like, well, no,
Speaker 2: why don't we give her the best what I think
Speaker 2: was the best chances. Let everyone kind of do the
Speaker 2: feeling out process and bring her in after a few
Speaker 2: days see what I was in and when it didn't
Speaker 2: happen straight away and the twins came in and we
Speaker 2: were just like, god, Maddie without read out inflating your
Speaker 2: ego too much. So I think I feel like you
Speaker 2: were in from like the second we meet you, just
Speaker 2: because like you're funny at fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some people you just.
Speaker 2: You know when you laugh with them and at them, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you just know. And I was definitely laughing with Yeah.
Speaker 5: I still remember a lot of my casting ship and
Speaker 5: I was like, I left over the face to face
Speaker 5: and I was like, I've either blown it or fucking
Speaker 5: done really well, it's like could go one or two ways.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, we just had season one. I remember someone saying
Speaker 2: it's a bit like Justin and I was like, no,
Speaker 2: I don't think you remember your mate to Justin, don't Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, no, I don't think I don't think you.
Speaker 4: No and I have had a chat about it and
Speaker 4: we both said, like, we think that we got on
Speaker 4: as well because we're very needy and very like love
Speaker 4: obsessed and need validation from a partner. Look on that note,
Speaker 4: let's talk about this season of Love Island.
Speaker 1: It's coming out very soon and we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about that next.
Speaker 4: Okay, mav So, Love Island Australia is about to be back.
Speaker 1: It's out on October the thirty, first on nine.
Speaker 4: Now the lineup has just dropped, Matt, what are your
Speaker 4: first impressions?
Speaker 5: Firstly, the Sicilian stunner, Claudia, she stands out to me.
Speaker 2: She turned up a casting from Adelaide, so she went
Speaker 2: to We didn't go to Adelaide because it was still
Speaker 2: with Covidy and stuff, and she flew from Adelaide to
Speaker 2: Melbourne in the tiniest red dress, and I mean the
Speaker 2: tiniest red dress. And she's walked in the casting in
Speaker 2: her hairs everywhere, and she sits down. She goes, oh,
Speaker 2: I'll just come torough the airport. Everyone thinks I'll prostitute.
Speaker 2: You're like, great, that's amazing.
Speaker 3: What about you, Adam? Did anyone stand out to you?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: Look, obviously I'm newly engaged, but I have a pass
Speaker 4: to be able to give my opinion on this. I
Speaker 4: think Austin was a bit of a standout for me.
Speaker 4: I think the man bun did it. He said he
Speaker 4: was a bit of a hopeless romantic, which I.
Speaker 1: Kind of liked. He looked tall.
Speaker 4: I don't know how tall he was, but that was
Speaker 4: he needs to be tall for Anna.
Speaker 2: Definitely, as Austin is an exceptional looking man. If it
Speaker 2: wasn't so rapidly heteroseptal, definitely a crack crack Austin is
Speaker 2: these magnificence human.
Speaker 3: All Right, Well, I'm going to ask you.
Speaker 5: I'm going to run through the names and I'm going
Speaker 5: to get you to tally in a couple of words.
Speaker 5: It can be one or three words. What you think
Speaker 5: of each contestant. So we start with Austin.
Speaker 7: Uh Latino, Mitchell key We, Jordan Mullet, Connor.
Speaker 2: Uh Brah Boy, Bra Boy okay from It's from the
Speaker 2: Bra and he's got He's got the boy.
Speaker 1: Okay, the gangster in Love Island this year.
Speaker 2: He's an alpha. He's a big swinging dick.
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, Andre Poka Hunters Huns.
Speaker 1: We might have to watch, you know.
Speaker 2: It looks like it looks like PoCA Hunters Callum Callum
Speaker 2: Welsh attack, bad boy.
Speaker 1: Bad boy.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So we move on to the girls.
Speaker 2: Claudia smoking, infectious, brash and British.
Speaker 1: I love a brit.
Speaker 2: Jessica, Uh, such a fire cracker you like? Yeah, firecracker
Speaker 2: Laila very direct? Yeah, ship ship how it is? Yeah.
Speaker 3: I've met her out a couple of times. Yeahs from
Speaker 3: the she slid.
Speaker 1: Into the d M.
Speaker 2: Yes, she's been in.
Speaker 3: This is back when I was single. Obviously.
Speaker 5: Of course, phoebe the last one AFL boys.
Speaker 1: If you had to pick a fave, who would you pick?
Speaker 2: I love all my children. If you had to, I
Speaker 2: can't because that would tell you. You know, the name I
Speaker 2: tell you basically means that they don't get dumped first,
Speaker 2: and they last a long time. Yeah, we pre recorded
Speaker 2: the series, so I can't be drawn on that. But honestly,
Speaker 2: it is a ass kicker of a series. So much
Speaker 2: shit happens. There are so many There are so many
Speaker 2: things that happened that I wish I could tell you
Speaker 2: so many people that are going to come in that
Speaker 2: you'll just go get the fuck and so many, so
Speaker 2: many fights, and so much love and so much drama.
Speaker 2: It is a real great, great series. Wow.
Speaker 5: So when you say people are coming in, do you
Speaker 5: give us any names? There's a famous groomsman coming in,
Speaker 5: did you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Who was that? Who's that?
Speaker 4: Al Al from Naths married at first sight?
Speaker 2: I've never seen it.
Speaker 5: You looked to the left and you have the worst
Speaker 5: poker face I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: But it's mirroring.
Speaker 4: We've also heard aside from our which Sophie Monk did
Speaker 4: semi confirm. I think, so we can kind of go
Speaker 4: with that's happening. We did hear that Josh Moss is
Speaker 4: going on as you contestant, tell me that's true.
Speaker 5: I heard this too, Like, no, no, Josh.
Speaker 2: So I don't think this is a secret. So I'm
Speaker 2: just going to tell you Josh was doing some work
Speaker 2: for Channel nine. So Josh was in Spain with us,
Speaker 2: but he was doing social social stuff for Channel Night Right.
Speaker 2: So maybe somebody saw that he was in Spain and
Speaker 2: oh my god, Josh Moss is back in the villa.
Speaker 2: But no, Josh is not like we love Josh and
Speaker 2: Josh is brilliant, but no, Josh is not.
Speaker 3: Any previous Love Island contestants. Uh, oh, it's.
Speaker 2: Look, I don't want to give it because I like
Speaker 2: you know, so no, there's not like there is so
Speaker 2: much stuff that happens. I don't want to I don't
Speaker 2: people think, oh, there's no way that's going to happen.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's a cracker.
Speaker 5: Why did they used to say the one thing about
Speaker 5: Love Island? What do they to say to us in there?
Speaker 5: It's Love Island, anything can happen.
Speaker 1: Anything can And.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm talked about before. You're just going to
Speaker 2: you've just got to give yourself up the experience because
Speaker 2: you're not going to know what's happening tomorrow. And the
Speaker 2: reason you're not going to know what's happening tomorrow is
Speaker 2: that we don't know that that's why it's the best
Speaker 2: job in the world. Like every other show, you're going
Speaker 2: with like a whiteboard, this is on this day, we're
Speaker 2: going to do this challenge, and then we're going to
Speaker 2: do this, and then we're going to do on Love Islands.
Speaker 2: You go in and yes, sure. For the first probably
Speaker 2: three days, you go in and go, Okay, we're going
Speaker 2: to start with five boys or five girls, and we're
Speaker 2: going to bring in a male bomb, and then we'll
Speaker 2: do a dumping on day four because there's six girls
Speaker 2: and five boys and you know your plan it up
Speaker 2: to there, but who the fuck knows after that? You
Speaker 2: know who's going to walk out, who's going to hook
Speaker 2: up with who, who's going to couple up with who?
Speaker 2: You know, when you have a lower day and you
Speaker 2: need to put a challenge in, you know, to de
Speaker 2: spire it up a bit. You just make it up
Speaker 2: as you go along. And that's what I absolutely love
Speaker 2: about it, and that's why that's why it is the
Speaker 2: best show. You just go with the flow.
Speaker 1: You know, is there going to be a cassa Amore
Speaker 1: this year?
Speaker 2: Look, there is something in the middle of the series
Speaker 2: that is enormous, Wow, enormous. It's really hard this because
Speaker 2: you know what I really want to tell you, like
Speaker 2: the the you know, for the for the promo and
Speaker 2: for the hype and for the comments and all that.
Speaker 2: I want to tell you, but I just can't all
Speaker 2: ruin the show. So I'm going to defer to I'm
Speaker 2: not going to spoil this for you and just say,
Speaker 2: just watch the fucking show you love.
Speaker 4: I think everyone's banging to watch it, to be honest,
Speaker 4: we just we need We're doing a bit of digging
Speaker 4: for everyone because we know that they're as solutely going
Speaker 4: to be glued to this season.
Speaker 1: It looks amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I love and what I love about the
Speaker 2: show is, you know, it doesn't matter where it pops up.
Speaker 2: You know, we've been on Channel nine, We've been on
Speaker 2: Go this year, We're on nine now, like we could
Speaker 2: literally be on SBS Hungarian channel and it's still you know,
Speaker 2: it's still going to do. It's still going to rate
Speaker 2: exactly the same on TV. We know that ninety percent
Speaker 2: of our viewers watch it on you know, watch on
Speaker 2: catch up either you know, binge five episodes at the
Speaker 2: time or you know, or they wait, they're desperately refreshing
Speaker 2: to uploads every single night. That's obviously what we hope
Speaker 2: people are doing. So you can just view this in
Speaker 2: so many different ways. And Loveland is not a television
Speaker 2: show anymore, you know, it's content, you know, and it's
Speaker 2: and it's not just for Australia, it's for all around
Speaker 2: the world. Like you know, every time we put a
Speaker 2: social post, it's like when can I watch us in
Speaker 2: New Zealand? When can I watch us in the UK?
Speaker 2: When can I watch us in America? You know, we've
Speaker 2: had messages from It's you know, Netflix Asia and all
Speaker 2: like it's just it's just such a global brand now,
Speaker 2: it's just on all over the world. What I say
Speaker 2: to what I say to the crew, now, this is
Speaker 2: my big hype speech, and I'll give you my little insight.
Speaker 2: Like imagine you're a producers just turned up in Spain
Speaker 2: and you know, you sitting there in some catering tents somewhere,
Speaker 2: and I'll stand up and I do like the rah rah.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is true. Unless you have worked
Speaker 2: on the World Cup, the Olympic Games, Eurovision, you know,
Speaker 2: something that is broadcast to half the bloody world, you
Speaker 2: are never ever going to make a television that is
Speaker 2: going to be seen on television content that it's going
Speaker 2: to be seen by more people than what you're about
Speaker 2: to make. Yeah, Love Island is so big. Just look
Speaker 2: at the YouTube clips. You know, it's over a billion now.
Speaker 1: I think it's crazy.
Speaker 2: It's so big, So you know, you know, Yes, if
Speaker 2: you work at the Meredith for a site, two and
Speaker 2: a half million people are going to watch you in Australia.
Speaker 2: If you work on Love Island and twenty million people
Speaker 2: are going to watch you around the world.
Speaker 5: It has become a huge thing in itself from like
Speaker 5: every other country is doing it now and it's just
Speaker 5: become a.
Speaker 3: Full, big Yeah, like what do you call it, like franchise,
Speaker 3: like just the front of us.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you had to pick an islander from this
Speaker 5: year's season that reminds you of Anna or myself.
Speaker 2: Well that's a good question. Anna, you are Stella, Okay,
Speaker 2: madam you are Callum.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's pull up.
Speaker 1: We need to refer to the image.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks wise or.
Speaker 2: More personality?
Speaker 3: Was personality?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 4: We on first looks we thought like just looks wise.
Speaker 4: I was like Holly and that was Mitchell. But I
Speaker 4: guess that was a bit of a stretch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'm reckon. I'm closer to the money than
Speaker 2: a But then again, then again, I've just been watching
Speaker 2: them twenty four hours a day for the week.
Speaker 4: What's been the most shocking moment that's happened on Love
Speaker 4: Island for you in all of the seasons.
Speaker 3: On, Yeah, I reckon it'd be more interesting.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to go back to it again. But that
Speaker 2: fighting series one, you know, like you know, I've still
Speaker 2: got buying the scenes vision which were never released of
Speaker 2: me running into that villa like calm and Calm and
Speaker 2: Grant even down and you know, they were they were
Speaker 2: going to walk, you know, like they were both and
Speaker 2: we were that close to kicking them out because you know,
Speaker 2: had they thrown punches and we would have lost our
Speaker 2: two biggest males and you know, they were two biggest stories.
Speaker 2: Imagine what yeah, and imagine that what that would have
Speaker 2: done to Love and ongoing had we you know, I
Speaker 2: had to kick them out or be had they have walked.
Speaker 2: So I was in proper counseling mode that night, you like,
Speaker 2: you know, it was like not only I had to
Speaker 2: reprimand them, you know for nearly getting physical, because you know,
Speaker 2: you throw a punch and love on villa. You're out,
Speaker 2: you know, end of story, don't We don't condonate at all,
Speaker 2: Thank god, thank god a punch wasn't thrown, so I
Speaker 2: had to reprimand them. But at the same time, be like,
Speaker 2: don't leave.
Speaker 1: Expecting the show to be massive this year.
Speaker 4: You said that there's not gonna be a lot of edits,
Speaker 4: so you guys are turning it over within a day.
Speaker 4: Can you tell us like one big thing that's gonna
Speaker 4: happen though, Just like one thing for our listeners where
Speaker 4: they can be like, fuck, I need to watch this show.
Speaker 2: Right, more than one person will walk into the villa
Speaker 2: that you know and will blow your fucking mind.
Speaker 1: Starfer, I'm itching to watch this season. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited to watch.
Speaker 4: Look, Matt, thank you so much for coming on the show.
Speaker 4: It's been an absolute pleasure having you on. You know
Speaker 4: you're extremely busy. We can't wait to watch the season.
Speaker 4: It's out on the thirty first of October. Make sure
Speaker 4: you guys check it out. It's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it definitely got my intrigued. Now I can't wait
Speaker 5: to watch it.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be enjoy it.
Speaker 2: It's a belt. It's a real, real good one.