1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: This is what the flucks. 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: I'm bred and I'm justin and it's Friday, the twelfth 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: of December. 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Juse boy. The final unemployment rate numbers for twenty twenty 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: five are in and they are flat. Yeah, the jobless 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: held steady at four point three percent in November, but interestingly, 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: there were twenty one thousand fewer people in work. How 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: doesn't actually work? There was a decline in the number 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: of people actively looking for work. No surprises when the 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: holiday season's coming up. 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: No surprises at all. We want a bit of a 12 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: break as we head into the middle of December when 13 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 2: things getting pretty expensive. One thing that can help you 14 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: out is winning fifty bucks at the end of a week. 15 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: That is all part of our weekly game Quick Sticks, 16 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: where week give way fifty bucks for the first person 17 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: to answer three business or finance questions correctly. So if 18 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: you want to win the fifty bucks today, make sure 19 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: you download the Flux out and turn on you notifications 20 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: to win. 21 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: Three marvelous stories today. Juzzy boy, let's do it for 22 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: our first. Australia's world first under sixteen social media band 23 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: has officially kicked in and that means TikTok Meta and 24 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: snap are plodding their next move. 25 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: No more doom scrolling for the under sixteens, b man. 26 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: So what is the update? 27 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: So rewind to November twenty twenty four, Juzzy boy, the 28 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: Australian government passed a new law to ban social media 29 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: usage for people under sixteen, and. 30 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: They weren't messing around. We're talking to Instagram and TikTok 31 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: and YouTube and Snapchat and Reddit and a couple of 32 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: others all gone for under sixteens at least. 33 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: The goal of this legislation is to protect children from 34 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: online harm and reduce bullying and. 35 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: B man, these platforms are given more than a year 36 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: to get their act together in time for the band. 37 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: Well, jusey boy, the day finally arrived on Wednesday. 38 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, the band is officially in place, and if the 39 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: social media platforms don't cooperate, they could be slapped with 40 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: up to fifty million dollars in fines. Ouch. 41 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: So how's it going to work? 42 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: Well, if the platform suspects someone who is under sixteen, 43 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: then they have an obligation to shut down the account. 44 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: Unless the user can pass an age verification check. 45 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: But the technology isn't perfect and young Australians are already 46 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: finding workarounds. 47 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: Like switching to other social media platforms like Lemonade and YopE. 48 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: Not to mention, brands also have to find new ways 49 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: to reach the young audience members in this new digital age. 50 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: So what's the key learning here? 51 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: A ban on an entire demographic doesn't just shift user 52 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: behaviors for those affected, it can change entire business models. Yep. 53 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: A report by the E Safety Commissioner wouldveal that ninety 54 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: six percent of children aged between ten and fifteen use 55 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: social media. 56 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: And another report shows that Jen Alpha kids between five 57 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: and fifteen spend on average two and a half hours 58 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: a day on social media. 59 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: That is a whole lot of brain rot for jen Alpha. 60 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah you see man man. Under sixteens on social media 61 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: are also the growth engines for many businesses yep. 62 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: And huge brands have even built entirely new product offerings 63 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: after attracting Gen Alpha online. 64 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, like Sephora, who developed four Kids to specifically target 65 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 2: Jen Alpha trends. 66 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: So does it well? Not only is this band going 67 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: to shift the number of users on social media platforms, 68 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: it's also going to force some businesses to rethink how 69 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: they acquire new customers. 70 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: And raise the question whether brands should even be thinking 71 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: about acquiring young teens in the first place. 72 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: For our second story, ASIK is on a finding spree 73 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: after hitting companies like Grilled, Bob Jane and MJ Bail 74 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: with fines for failing to lodge their financial accounts. 75 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: ASA candy out finds like their tickets to a Carols 76 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: by Candilate Conceptbeman tell me. 77 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: More, all right, So, the Australian Securities and Investments Commission 78 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: aka ASSEK is Australia's corporate regulator. 79 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: They keep a very close eye on Australia's corporate compliance. 80 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: And while we know public companies need to disclose their 81 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: financial accounts to the market, large proprietary companies also need 82 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: to disclose their deepest, darkest financial details. 83 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: Companies with more than fifty million revenue and one hundred 84 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 2: employees are considered large and also need a report. 85 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: And now ASIK has had just about enough of some 86 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: of these large proprietary companies who have failed to play 87 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: by the rules and the regulations. 88 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: Yep ASK has issued two point two million dollars worth 89 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: of infringement notices to twelve high profile companies. 90 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: We've been talking fession brands like White Fox, Boutique, MJ 91 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: bail and Age, as well as Grilled. 92 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: And these fines were allegedly for failing to lodge they 93 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: audited financial accounts for FI twenty four and Juzuboit. 94 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: Many of the execs from large proprietary companies claimed the 95 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: failure was just an administrative oversight. 96 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: And some others called it a recent sourcing issue. 97 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: But the size of the fines may also be contributing 98 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: to all of this. 99 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: So true, So what is the key learning here? 100 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: When the cost of breaking the rules is cheaper than 101 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: following them, enforcement can often stop working. 102 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. For some large private companies, lodging audited accounts can 103 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: be a significant change to their current processes. It means 104 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: hiring bigger finance teams, it means engaging auditors, and it 105 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 2: means revealing performance they might wish to keep private. So maman. 106 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: If the fine is smaller than those costs, some businesses 107 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: might treat the fine as a fee rather than a deterrent. 108 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: In fact, of two hundred and seventeen companies investigated, one 109 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty one of those companies were non compliant, 110 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: More than seventy percent non compliance. 111 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: Right now the fine for failing to provide the info 112 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: is up to one hundred ninety eight thousand dollars for 113 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: single failure, So our zig is trying to raise the 114 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: stakes by making the fines more expensive. 115 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: So expensive that non compliance becomes a big, big problem 116 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: for the businesses. 117 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: For our third and final story, chatjbt has officially become 118 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: the most downloaded free iPhone app for twenty twenty five, 119 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: meaning it's overtaken your tiktoks, Instagrams, and even your Googles. 120 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: Just when the social media companies thought that the under 121 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: sixteen's band was bad, they get hit with this tell 122 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: me mom. 123 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: So we know that chatjpt got to jump on all 124 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: the other AI chatbots when it launched in November twenty 125 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: twenty two. 126 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: And since then other chatbots like Claude and Perplexity and 127 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 2: deep Sea they've also launched too, but. 128 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: Josey boy in none have been as broadly used as 129 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: chat GPT. 130 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: And now chatjpt's topped Apple's annual list of most downloaded 131 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 2: free iPhone apps. 132 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: Yep it beat out Threads, TikTok, Instagram, Google Maps, Gmail, 133 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: And to. 134 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 2: Put this into perspective, CHATJPT was only the fourth most 135 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: downloaded free app last year, didn't even crack the top 136 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: ten in twenty twenty three, and bie man, I know 137 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: you're a big game art. So Apple also released its 138 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: wider rankings and block Blasts took out the top three. 139 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: K and you're like this one, Josey Boy Minecraft topped 140 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: the paid list. 141 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: Look at that for you, yeah, and be made. This 142 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: shows just how quickly AI chatbots have moved from the 143 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 2: cool party trick to a daily essential for millions of people. 144 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: It is, so what is the key learning here? 145 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: In technology? Becoming the default option is often more powerful 146 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: than being the option. 147 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: When it all becomes the instinctive first step in any 148 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: individual's workflow, it builds a moat that's hard for competitors 149 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: to cross. 150 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how Google on the Search was, and it's 151 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: how Google Maps replace the old mel ways and the 152 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: old sidways and the Garman and Tom Tom as well. 153 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: And chetchpt's rise to the number one spot really signals 154 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: that it's fast becoming a new default behavior. 155 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: So b Man, well, it's a nice feather in chatch 156 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: epts cap. Being number one it means so much more 157 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: to them, but also to competitors like Google Flux Mam. 158 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: It has been another big year of big business news 159 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 2: and big podcast from the Flux team. It is our 160 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: last episode of the year of bite sized business news, 161 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: but over the next week we'll be having recaps of 162 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 2: some of the biggest stories in the biggest sectors for 163 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: this year. Think tech, think AI, think ratail so big. 164 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: Thank you once again for listening to What the Fluck 165 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 2: podcast in twenty twenty five and looking forward to an 166 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 2: even biggert twenty twenty six with you. 167 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening and we'll see you on Monday.