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Speaker 1: Political upheaval has Tasmania on the brink amid grave concerns

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Speaker 1: for the Devils. Brendan Gale joins us from an island divided.

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Speaker 2: Hawthorne makes its changes ahead of a high stakes showdown

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Speaker 2: with a rested Western Bulldogs. Our coaches go deep and

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Speaker 2: the countdown to the Big Freeze. Simon Goodwin is here

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Speaker 2: and we'll reveal slider number eight, a long time favorite

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Speaker 2: of Neil Danaher.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about is this step into it, embrace.

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Speaker 1: All of it in the room and Britain it's unedifying

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Speaker 1: for a senior coach to do that. They're on the

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Speaker 1: side of Courtia with the brain tape, the man on

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Speaker 1: they played the best footy I've ever seen at the

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Speaker 1: start of the season, and Andrew said, president left. The

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Speaker 1: couple older said.

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Speaker 2: He, of course they do.

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Speaker 3: It is the stuff that legends are made of. What

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Speaker 3: is holding the ball? I don't think I could answer

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Speaker 3: it clearly right now.

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Speaker 4: I can do something wrong, you know, and I need

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Speaker 4: to go and the boards.

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Speaker 5: Actually the fans lover and with no fans, no through

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Speaker 5: sixty year old.

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Speaker 1: There's plenty of footy. But if only it was as

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Speaker 1: simple as the foota to night Gas. It has been

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Speaker 1: a day of political intrigue and.

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Speaker 2: Maneuvering, as indeed Jared and I'm not making a light

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Speaker 2: of it in my Tasmanian Green, but solidarity is a

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Speaker 2: keyword here and Brendon Gale is going to join us,

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Speaker 2: fellow Tasmanian and this is big. It is a really

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Speaker 2: big I've seen some of the grabs and the emotion

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Speaker 2: is real and it's at a very very interesting stage.

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Speaker 1: Should have brought my cards membership card that night. That's

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Speaker 1: it as we all stand with him right. The premiere

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Speaker 1: of Tasmania is tonight facing a no confidence motion. Should

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Speaker 1: he fail to stay that off, and he wouldn't appear

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Speaker 1: to have the numbers, it's likely Tasmania would be pushed

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Speaker 1: to a snap election and once again the Macquarie Points

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Speaker 1: Stadium and the nineteenth license to enter the League would

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Speaker 1: be placed at jeopardy, perhaps like never before.

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Speaker 6: The deal and the way the dealer is constructed is

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Speaker 6: to set this club up for success. And I've said repeatedly,

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Speaker 6: and I know Brendan and Grant have also said repeatedly,

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Speaker 6: is when Tasmania finally take that stage, when we finally

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Speaker 6: get that opportunity. We want to be good, we want

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Speaker 6: to be sustainable, and we want to represent this state

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Speaker 6: with pride will into the future. In order to do that,

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Speaker 6: we need the infrastructure to set us up for that success.

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Speaker 6: The work that this club is doing. Can I just

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Speaker 6: see this club is powered by our future generations, by

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Speaker 6: our kids and by our grandkids. It's an opportunity to

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Speaker 6: bring this state together. It's an opportunity to create pathways,

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Speaker 6: and they're real. They're happening now.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 6: I've got fifty students out here in my siteline. They

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Speaker 6: power us every single day and they will keep doing that.

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Speaker 6: And we're going to play on and we want to

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Speaker 6: see this team, this club become reality because our young

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Speaker 6: people deserve it.

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Speaker 5: Look, I think it'd be a big opportunity lost. These

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Speaker 5: things don't come around very often, and who's to say

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Speaker 5: it might come around ever again if this is not

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Speaker 5: the time for it, but it would be extremely disappointing.

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Speaker 1: The parliamentary debate might be dry, but the emotions are raw.

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Speaker 1: And Kath McCann has been on the ground from day one.

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Speaker 1: She's the longest servant employee of the Devils, and she

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Speaker 1: gave us a pretty good insight into the feeling on

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Speaker 1: the island right now. So the day began with a

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Speaker 1: note of great concern from the Devils, and at the

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Speaker 1: close of it, Brendan Gale, the Chief Executive, is with us. Brendan,

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Speaker 1: it's great to be with us on three sixty. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for your.

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Speaker 3: Time, gould to be with you, Jared.

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Speaker 1: How precariously placed is the dream of the Tazzy Devils

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Speaker 1: as we talk tonight, Well.

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Speaker 7: There's some uncertainty around the leadership of government, and you

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Speaker 7: said in your introductory comments is a voter no confidence

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Speaker 7: in the premiere, But as as far as we concern,

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Speaker 7: it's business as usual. You know, we're getting all the

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Speaker 7: business we have to building an organization and building teams. Clearly,

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Speaker 7: our existence is conditioned upon the deliver of a stadium,

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Speaker 7: and that's an agreement between the AFILM and the state government,

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Speaker 7: and that stadium needs to clear the passage of both

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Speaker 7: houses of Parliament. I mean that process is underway at

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Speaker 7: the moment, so that process we run its course. That

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Speaker 7: hasn't changed, and there's some uncertainly around leadership and maybe

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Speaker 7: the composition of parliament, but that really hasn't changed, and

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Speaker 7: we're just going to get on with the job and

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Speaker 7: controlling things we can control.

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Speaker 1: If Jeremy Rockcliffe does get rolled, Brendan, do you lose

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Speaker 1: Does the team lose its shepherd, its greatest advocate.

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Speaker 7: Look, he's been a very strong leader, but you know

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Speaker 7: so as the government, and the government has got the

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Speaker 7: unequivalent support of the opposition and a number of independents

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Speaker 7: as well. So, I mean, Jeremy's been a very strident

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Speaker 7: advocate for the team and but the relationship, the agreement

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Speaker 7: is between the AFL and the government of the day,

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Speaker 7: and you know that's a that's an agreement that sort

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Speaker 7: of sits outside our control. We've got to get on

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Speaker 7: with the business of building our club and we've got

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Speaker 7: a lot to do, and it's it's a huge responsibility,

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Speaker 7: but a great opportunity as well, and we strongly believe

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Speaker 7: in the power of this team. It's not about football,

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Speaker 7: it's about the potential to lick this whole state and

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Speaker 7: we believe in that. You just saw the response of

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Speaker 7: Kathmic Cann. It's a responsibility that sits heavily with us.

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Speaker 2: I think that is the thing that hits home most.

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Speaker 3: Spending.

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Speaker 2: There's so much that it's hard to understand for the

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Speaker 2: average person sitting at home watching this. It is politics

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Speaker 2: and bipartisan support. What does that mean the Graads independence.

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Speaker 2: Then you see a Kathmic can sit down and break down.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to watch.

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Speaker 2: It talks about the very core and essence of what

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Speaker 2: this is all about when it was first put on

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Speaker 2: the agenda. It is connecting the Tasmanian people who have

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Speaker 2: you see the emotion come out in Kathmiccanna. I mean

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Speaker 2: if we can't get this up.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, indeed, Gary, I mean, this is a team already

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Speaker 7: like no other. We're a team that represents an entire

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Speaker 7: a team by Tasmania. We're a team for Tasmania, and

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Speaker 7: we're a team that we absolutely believe can live Tasmania

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Speaker 7: And so yeah, we see the power of this football

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Speaker 3: Really positivejector rejectory.

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Speaker 7: It's a great opportunity for our football club and for

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Speaker 1: Two things happened across the course of the day. So

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Speaker 1: the opposition leader who has brought the motion, Dean Winter,

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Speaker 1: wrote to Andrew Dillan to reaffirm his support for the

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Speaker 1: team in the stadium, and the Greens opportunistically tried to

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Speaker 1: have the handling of Macquarie point added to the no

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Speaker 1: confidence motion and that got voted down. Is there any

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Speaker 1: comfort in that that the numbers still reside with the

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Speaker 1: stadium and the team.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think this broad based political support, and certainly

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Speaker 7: in the lower House. I don't engage in party politics,

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Speaker 7: but in the lower House there's broad based political support.

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Speaker 7: The Upper House does rely on support of a number

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Speaker 7: of independents. Now recent events might add create some more uncertainty,

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Speaker 7: but no, I think Parliament is very supportive broad based support.

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Speaker 7: And I guess even this motion that's been brought in

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Speaker 7: the last twenty four hours wasn't about football, about the stadium,

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Speaker 7: was about some budgetary concerns.

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Speaker 3: But I guess it's this chain of reaction.

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Speaker 7: So I think there's broad based political support and I'm

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Speaker 7: confident Jered that the more people in the community understand

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Speaker 7: the importance of the stadium, how it's critical to meet

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Speaker 7: the commercial financial requirements of a team in this in

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Speaker 7: the biggest boarding competion in Australia.

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Speaker 3: The more they.

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Speaker 7: Understand how will unlock a whole range of other financial, economic,

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Speaker 7: social cultural benefits, the more people are open to sort

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Speaker 7: of changing their minds and supporting of it. And so no,

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Speaker 7: there's some uncertainty at the moment, but we're very very

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Speaker 2: So Ben I read Chris Fagan's comments must have been

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Speaker 2: recently about the fact that in his mind that he

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Speaker 2: doesn't want this to fall over clearly, and that he

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Speaker 2: thinks that it can exist a new team and play

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Speaker 2: at Loncessin and Hobart at existing facilities and in time

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Speaker 3: Has it been too ambitious?

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Speaker 2: Has it been too big a stumbling block that's been

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Speaker 2: a no team, no stadium policy.

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Speaker 7: Now, look, I think it's just been that difficult concept

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Speaker 7: to explain Gary. And look, firstly, there's no good time

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Speaker 7: and they're expensive, and there's always a whole range of

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Speaker 3: And whether it's Adelaide or per.

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Speaker 7: Stadium, they're difficult to get through and get popular support.

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Speaker 3: I guess that's compounded by the fact.

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Speaker 7: That people in Tasmania think, well, we've got two perfectly

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Speaker 7: fit for purpose, but they're not fit for the purpose

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Speaker 7: of providing sustainable commercial business model to underpin eighteen in

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Speaker 7: the Big League on a sustainable basis, And it's hard

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Speaker 7: to explain in seven or ten seconds. But once you

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Speaker 3: You know, people tend to come around, but it's not easy.

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Speaker 1: Well, did you feel any level of unease Brendon when

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Speaker 1: last week the budget got revised up to nine hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty five million dollars to construct, adding one hundred

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Speaker 3: Well not really.

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Speaker 7: Sorry, it's a sidnimiant amount of money, but I was aware.

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Speaker 7: I had line of sight and to be fair, you

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Speaker 7: know when I saw the original quote, you know, three

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Speaker 7: years ago. I mean, anyone who's anyone who's involved any

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Speaker 7: bigger number. It's a big cost, but it's a huge investment.

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Speaker 7: It's a really important investment. It's an investment the Government

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Speaker 7: of deemed to be worth making, and it's an investment

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Speaker 7: in a really important sporting social infrastructure that's been worth

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Speaker 7: making and re benefits around the world, around the world,

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Speaker 7: and you know we need as a state to continue

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Speaker 2: How quickly do you need it resolved, Benny? You've got

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Speaker 2: a footy club to build. There so many decisions to

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Speaker 3: Well, at the moment it's on track area. It's in

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Speaker 7: The legislation which enables the whole development is in parliament

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Speaker 7: and it's been debated and scrutinized.

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Speaker 3: It all need to clear the.

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Speaker 3: It's probably ahead of course.

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Speaker 7: Now, it may not be ready by around one twenty

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Speaker 3: Gary.

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Speaker 1: So just as we close, Brendan in the hours ahead

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Speaker 3: Well it's speculation, sorry, Jared.

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Speaker 3: Good luck, thanks for the time, Jess.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, So conditional license with the Devils and a

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Speaker 2: And I think great defiance from the boss there who's

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Speaker 3: That's what I hope anyway.

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Speaker 1: All right, this is what we've got lined up for

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Speaker 1: They've got a particular eye towards tomorrow night's start to

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Speaker 1: to Ozzie Broadband. Who is it D Day four?

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Speaker 2: So let's get into it. I'm looking at the Adelaide Crows.

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Speaker 2: That's their one win from a They played four teams

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Speaker 3: They're close, they're not far.

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Speaker 2: Away, but they just can't get it done against the contenders.

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Speaker 2: This is the time to say, hey, they are about

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Speaker 1: What you like that a lot? Carlton only be the

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Speaker 1: we see a rejuvenated lineup after the buye. Everyone knows

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Speaker 3: They can't move the ball.

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Speaker 1: Jacob Weinering told me today they had their best training

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Speaker 1: They could win the next four or they could disappear

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Speaker 2: Can they fix your kicking in the space of Ford

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Speaker 8: Just think it's pressure. I mean, it's obviously you guys,

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Speaker 8: and rightly so. Have have talked about it a lot.

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Speaker 8: We can't get away with tackles in the thirties and

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Speaker 8: that's not going to stand up in the long term.

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Speaker 8: But really, I mean really looking forward to what they're

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Speaker 3: We know we need to improve on.

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Speaker 4: Healthy respect for them when they're at their best and

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Speaker 4: we've got to be ready for their intensity in this

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Speaker 8: Used to every week. There's an ebb and a flow

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Speaker 1: Six versus Knight doesn't quite do just as to what

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Speaker 1: we'll transpire on Fox Footy tomorrow nights, and the way

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Speaker 1: that the teams have landed gas. There are tales to

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Speaker 1: So here's what's happened at the Dogs. Gardner, Dolan and

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Speaker 2: The big they're big outs, aren't they. So the captain

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Speaker 2: But yeah, when you've had a couple of weeks like

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Speaker 2: They were told no uncertain terms that they didn't get

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Speaker 1: So the dogs are interesting in their own right. There's

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Speaker 1: six and five. Intuitively, they feel better than that they

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Speaker 1: going to squander it, are they is? So much of

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Speaker 2: Yep, then you've got to win tomorrow night. I mean

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Speaker 3: And footy so weak to week, Jared.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if we're sitting here on Monday or at

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's intriguing. The whole round looks a bit like that,

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Speaker 1: all right slides MMD. We've put our shoulder to the wheel.

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Speaker 1: Simon Goodwin will take his team to the King's Birthday

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Speaker 1: on Monday to a huge occasion, crowd records to be broken,

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Speaker 1: Now come back to the heart of winter in Melbourne

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